I wish the fnaf 3 jumpscares were good so that it couldve been the last game. I might be in the minority here but i loved the simpler story - guy in suit kills kids. Kid spirits kill guy. Kids spirits freed. The name afton not muttered a single time.
Even if FNAF continued they should've atleast had FNAF 1-3 or even FNAF 1-4 been it's own story. Be the end of the original story. And Sister Location be in another timeline or set decades in the future not connecting to the old games. FNAF 6 & UCN would've been fine too, it should've ended there. But FNAF Help Wanted and Security Breach wanted to continue the timeline that should've ended at 3,4 or UCN. Security Breach should've been a new timeline and reboot to the franchise. A breath of fresh air. Old FNAF and New FNAF don't mix together at all, they're both trying different things. Old FNAF = paranormal horror ghost mystery New FNAF = Sci-Fi, kid robots, VR virus, not scary
I'm glad five nights at Freddy's is a massive franchise with a movie multiple books and games, the lore is confusing as hell but at the end of the day the games and their gameplay and some of the books are just generally cool and I'm glad they exist.
I always thought it was Mike having a dream that he was his brother and he was being tortured by him and his friends. I think this is what made Mike become the guard in fnaf 2. Idk, fans 3 is confusing.
@@mr.monkey354 yeah I want it to be a dream minus all of the experimentation shenanigans from Afton since it doesn’t make sense and it just makes Afton look like a cartoon villain rather than an actual person
@secretusgg Andrew is a character from The Man in Room 1280. It's part of the Stitchwraith storyline in Frights, which is a direct epilogue to FNAF 6. The Man in Room 1280 is about a corpse being sent to the hospital after being found. However, the corpse is still alive. While studying his consciousness, they find out a second consciousness is living in his own mind. It's heavily implied that this is UCN. Not just that, but all the soundtracks in UCN directly reference dreams. The story ends with the corpse of William Afton exploding, and Andrew's spirit being released.
The afton family ending was a satisfying ending to what the series had come to be at that point. Like mentioned in the fnaf 1 part it's the simplicity but mysterious nature it had that made it so enticing and fnaf 3 gave it not truly a conclusion but a full circle to the main mystery (Purple guy), the fact we didn't even know his name and whether he was still out there always felt part of the charm of not fully knowing what was going on but knowing just enough to piece it together.
its crazy how we thought fnaf was going to end for so long, and suddenly, something has changed in the last 3-4 years that makes it feel like its FAR from over. for the first time i cant see fnaf ending anytime soon
Fun Fact: FNaF has "died" more times than Afton has. FNaF - 5: FNaF 1 (was supposed to be the finale of scottsgames, lol), FNaF 3, FNaF 4, FNaF Pizza Sim, UCN Afton - 2: Springlock (FNaF 3) and Burning (Pizza Sim - assuming Burntrap is Mimic) Note: Yeah, Springtrap didn't die in FNaF 3....hell, William doesn't actually die much, he just fails to. He comes back because he doesn't die, not because he does lol....also not counting UCN, physical deaths only. Still, funny to say Afton died twice. extra note: tallying up Fazbear Frights too, that'd add an extra... 2? for afton. His body would have certainly passed on if not for Andrew, thus, he's technically just barred from death instead of surviving. Meanwhile, his second death was drowning as The Agony. Overall doesn't change, Afton truly died a maximum of 4 times...and FNaF beat him without even trying to survive, yet always came back.
During the Help Wanted and Security Breach sections of the video, I was wondering: "what if, instead, the new story would have been entirely about Fazbear Entertainment trying to burn its own history?" Animatronics would be programmed with safeguards so that any curious onlooker who started to learn more than they should've would get "taken care of" or something like that? The question then would be "why though? Why go through al the trouble of doing this?" Maybe the executives know something? Maybe Afton's research keeps going, somehow? Heck, maybe they're the ones who keep bringing Afton back again and again. There is so many things you couls do with this kind of beginning!
none of the first six games had a cliffhanger or something that was intentionally left open to be resolved on a sequel (except Sister Location's Golden Freddy). So theoricly any of the first six games are an attempt to end the series. I mean, i doubt that at any of the time Scott finished any of the first six games, he was already thinking to make a sequel.
Well no, FNAF 2 was made with FNAF 3 in mind same with sister location being made with pizza Sim in mind (and technically pizza Sim had ucn in mind though it was supposed to be DLC but got upgraded to game)
You: special delivery wasn't a main line entry right? Me: well it did actually start Vanny's story and continue glitchtrap's story so what do you say? You: "screams in agony and anger"
I think the best ending/iteration of the story would have to be ScrimpusMcGrimpus's FNaF VHS series. It retells the original trilogy in a way that feels much more neat and satisfying than it's source material (even if that's only because it wouldn't be too hard to clean up what Scott was doing with 1-3).
I’m surprised you didn’t mention how Sister Location chose to have a sci-fi, android aesthetic despite taking place, at most, in the 90’s. I personally thought that it broke the world building of the previous 4 games (and even fnaf 6, since that went back to being more realistic). So, I’m not too fond of it (despite the nostalgic memories).
Great video, subscribed, pressed like, hit the bell, all that jazz. I wasn't originally going to comment, but then I saw Homestuck in this video and now I am obligated by law to comment on it.
On the note of pizzeria simulator, iircthe RUclipsr Notrealnamenotatall did a video about the flaws in the ending which point *many* that are glossed over or not drawn attention to. Such as the fact the puppet is constantly getting electric tortured. And on my personal perspective, hints such as UCN lines and behavior clues that somewhat imply puppet is likely docile inside Lefty, whilst it's the electric iron maiden known known as Lefty who is attacking the player while the marionette is forced along like a puppet on strings. Not to mention how for such short knights it's still one of the games where you can have a literal unbeatable situation because for some reason Henry can't get even slightly safe vent covers. Not to mention he expected a survival noob to juggle the animatronics all week and it likely being Michael was a happy surprise
The puppet is still clearly a threat, regardless if it's docile, a 10ft tall creature who can snap at any moment and trap your soul inside of a plastic toy is still a huge threat (and fnaf 2 proves it's not completely docile, as soon as the music box runs out it instantly charges at Jeremy with killing intent), So it needed to be contained somehow. Also about the night segments, Henry likely needed to give the Animatronics a reason to stay there before he could burn them, so having someone else for them to hunt would be a good way for him to keep the animatronics from escaping. he also likely couldn't do it himself cuz he's an old Man, so he probably had to take the risk and rely on someone else for the job.
i realized that the background music for the dream theory segment sounded like an loz:oot remake of christmastime is here and i cant focus on anything else
"trilogy is the only number of entries with a specific name." duology: allow us to introduce ourselves. (I don't count fnaf 1 & 2 as an ending but it wasn't confirmed for there to be a third so idk we might as well still count them)
I just completely gave up on the story since its very clear the plot was lost. I just ignore everything after fnaf 6 and UCN lore wise. Fnaf vr is goated for gameplay, tho.
By the way, not going to check every comment here for another mention, but the princess quest ending IS the canon one. The non canon ones are all drawn as comic books cassy finds. So yeah burntrap is canonically a figment of greggy’s inagination. Also it’s the only one which has three stars
Loved this vid so much. Hilarious and thoughtful the whole way through. Sister location is the only fnaf game I have ever owned. Help wanted should have taken some notes from fnaf 1.
If you really think about it in a retrospective pov, Fnaf 4 and Friday the 13th Part 4 share so much in common. Both were the fourth installments of a franchise that gained immense popularity during its early days. Both were meant to be the final conclusion of their series, but had more installments come afterwards. Finally, both technically were the final chapters in terms of arcs; Ft13th 4 was the end of human Jason, and FNAF 4 was the final game to by a numbered naming scheme.
Watching the security breach segment is interesting now. They pretty much decanonized the afton ending, now leaning heavily into the princess quest ending. It also seems like glitchtrap wasnt afton either. I suspect the afton ending in sb wasnt scott's intent. He said in a recent interview that there were miscommunications with steelwool that basically led to them writing their own story.
it's like. fine. right? but I really don't think dream theory was the intended ending for fnaf 4. I think fnaf 4 was supposed to explain golden freddy like how the other new fnaf media at the time (the silver eyes) tried to explain the puppet. I think that if anyone at the time had realized that the crying child's older brother was actually mike schmidt, we would have had an actual conclusion to fnaf, with the ending being the same as fnaf 3 but with additional motive for the protagonist. no hate on this 2 year old video but it bothers me a little when people assume that scott intended such a cop-out ending as if he wasn't respected as a storyteller/puzzlemaster up to that point
It's a reocurring thing for almost any fanbase for ppl to assume the creator just got stupid near the end. But really, there was nothing in FNaF4 hinting towards Mike Schmidt being the brother. A single name drop and everything would've changed.
i think he said himself in a reddit post somewhere that he did intend dream theory at first but realized it wasn’t a good ending and retconned it with sl. that’s what i’ve heard at least
@@mr.monkey354 FNaF4 = first FNaF game with no Phone Guy. Usually If something is missing from the game it gets quickly added as an easter egg (FNaF 3 Golden Freddy, Puppet and Mangle) As to why it was the first game's phone call out of all of them, the first night's call is the most iconic, and since this was meant to be an ending to the series, a throwback to the first game isn't anything new for games like these. If Scott wanted it to have plot relevance he could've made it more special. 2 games ago dolls made of paper were entering your office as Easter eggs.
Dream Theory was never retconed. While I fully believe that FNAF 4 had completely different plans from what it is in the lore now, I highly doubt that making the series a dream was the true intention for the game. It's never directly stated, but Mr. Hippos has a monolog about how you shouldn't look into every little thing until you go mad, which implies that dream theory was never true and was talked about for years anyway. My more concrete reason for believing that it was never a thing was that Scott made the infamous FNAF 4 box and said that he would open it if anyone found out the meaning of the game. Within that time, he gave 4 hints/relivent questions on his website, which were the clues that led Matpat to make dream theory. The problem being that Scott announced before FNAF World that he would not reveal what was in the box because no one found out the meaning of FNAF 4 even after dream theory came out, and I personally believe he called it off because dream theory muddled the water so that more people would be coming to Scott telling him to open the box because Matpat has the answer rather than look less deep than they were. Also, dream theory could be true for literally any show, movie, game, and whatnot out there, so I don't understand why FNAF 4 specifically is the one people are banking had that lazy plot device that no one used since Mario 2.
Thank you. Scott has also pretty explicitly denied and even made fun of dream theory. There's no way it's canon. As for better theories... Arcade theory must become more well known
I consider Fnaf 2 as the actual beginning of the entire Fnaf story, and it was where everything was set-up. Fnaf world was the actual beginning of Elizabeth's story and Henry's story, which was concluded in Pizza Simulator, and story of Sister Location was just a continuation of Fnaf World
I really wish it ended, and that statement comes out of love, I feel like Im watching my favorite horror franchise getting family guyed, Simpsoned, and spongebobed
I never really liked dream theory for the series as a whole. I accept it for fnaf4 itself, that is where it seems intentional, but the rest of the games no. Fnaf 1 and 2 explore the vengeful spirits of a deranged killer we only get bits and pieces of, fnaf 3 deals with that deranged killer directly, and fnaf 4 provides a glimpse into what his life was like and what made him go off the deep end by exploring the life and recurrant nightmares of his son. My theory for fnaf 1-4 is as follows: Purple guy's son scares easily, and interprets so much of what he sees as murder and generslly awful at his dad's workplace, but it isn't really anything. The son is killed, and the father breaks mentally, swearing to put his son "back together." From there, purple guy goes on a killing spree, partly out of self indulgent revenge, but also because he finds that somehow the children he kills are able to possess animatronics. Maybe he really can bring his son back. But the weight of his sins haunt him until the literal ghosts of the children he killed scare him into the old rusty suit he used to commit the murders, which then kills him, but his soul too possesses the machine. Fnaf 3 sees us almost kill him but ooooo sequel bait, maybe it didn't work. To me, it's a satisfying story that provides us with the victims, method, motive, and a bit of worldbuilding to give us a satisfying ending to the series. Sister Location and Pizzeria Sim expand on the worldbuilding more and retroactively change some lore, but they feel like a fine enough continuation and ending. But, 1-4 being dreams isn't satisfying to me. 4 definitely could be, 1-3 no, those happened.
Honestly, Pizzeria Simulator and UCN final was PERFECT. And Security Breach could be a AWESOME “reopening” (funny word to say Reboot) to the series, a fresh new start, but naaaahhhh
I can’t see Dream Theory being 100% confirmed. Scott had already pictured a story by the time he was making fnaf 2. Fnaf 3 was supposed to be an end of the franchise and I doubt he make the story with it all being a dream in mind.
The thing about Scott is that he's a go with the flow type of writer. He only comes up with story as he goes along and prefers keeping up the mystery to making an actual end. So of course game theory could never come to any satisfactory permanent conclusion because that would mean the mystery is over and Scott didn't want that
11:36idk I actually prefer it because 1:flollows the show don't tell because if they didn't include it and Michael just popup later that would way way Way worse than this 2:it reestablishs supernaturality in it because we saw his spine being removed yet he is standing upright without a Skelton... Or internal organs so we know there is some sort of supernatural power holding him together
For me 3/4 is the end of the story. It capped it off before going in a weird direction and was meant to be the original finale and 4 is a prequel so just ignore the weird sci-fi stuff that got added later
5:55 i think many people (especially young people) like and use cliche because they haven’t experienced the cliche before, and are unaware of just how bad it is. “it was all a dream” feels a lot more innovative if you haven’t ever seen Wizard of Oz.
No it wasn’t. It was one final attempt where he tried working to his strengths. It wasn’t “grrr you want a scary animatronic game, you’re getting one!”, it was “if I can’t do a cute game without it being scary, maybe I should make a scary game”. He didn’t want to go back to his crappy job since he liked making games, even if none of them get hit it big.
Framing FNAF as something made out of spite is such a mean-spirited take. If Scott truly grew to hate making games then he wouldn't have made like 20 FNAF sequels.
Gotta love how even though the community was displeased with how Afton kept coming back, he brought him back for the millionth time anyway XD (Thanks Scott
Ironically Fnaf 3, 4 and 6 ending always had that slight chance to not end either in the games themselves in the ending of five nights at Freddies free if you brighten up the screen you can actually see that spring trap is still alive, for the ending of five nights at Freddys, 4 the thank you message gets turned into the Fnaf world menu and I guarantee that five nights of Freddy six was never the intended ending of the series, but more or less a intended ending for the Afton story line since it was confirmed William was never supposed to come back again
Maybe we can countinue your narrative that we can divide the story and make help wanted a beggining to the mimic story, and then we maybe can have some peace knowing that afton died at fnaf 6, hopefully.. (i'm writing this after ruin and before any other fnaf game)
3 is always where the story ended for me, with 4-6 being side stories The story fell off once it started reaching Kingdom Hearts levels of convoluted lol
The ending for me will always be Pizza simulator. Indeed the most satisfying way I've ever seen this series go, the follow up game UCN showing us where Afton ended up playing as him hunted for all eternity by his monsters is so great man Everything that came after that came up with dumb excuses to keep bringing him back was just dumb and I consider it noncannon. Help Wanted take place in our reality meanwhile Security breach is a different timeline
Dude, you compare Michael rising from throwing up animatronics to Sion's passive made my day. That's so funny i don't wanna watch the rest of the video😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
SB is fair because Burntrap wasn't even meant to be a character or even move. Scott Cawthon said that he included the model as a simple easter egg, but Steel Wool took it to mean that Afton somehow came back and wanted to rue his vengance
I think I rate the endings like this: FNaF1 (It was originally a one-and-done)- B-tier. Nothing too fancy but it has a simple and relatively satisfying outcome. There's an unsafe pizzeria with probably-haunted robots, the probable-haunting is the result of some child murders that happened there, the killer was caught and convicted, and the pizzeria closes because the robots are creepy and smell bad and nobody wants to go to the restaurant with the bleeding snot robots that bite people and five kids got aliven't. It works well enough. FNaF3- A-tier. After three games, the souls of the killer's victims are put to rest, and the killer himself is bested. The company is long-dead, and the physical remains are burned to ash. There's a small hint that Springtrap escaped and a few unanswered questions, but that's absolutely fine. FNaF4- D-tier. Dream endings will forever be unsatisfying, and FNaF4 itself couldn't more obviously be a game that got stapled onto the end purely for gameplay reasons, without a satisfying story. Some kid we never met before this game dies and all the characters and plot points we were invested in were just his imagination. Great. FNaF6- C-tier. The speech is really good, but Henry came right the fuck out of nowhere. Why is some dead dude from a book giving this speech instead of the actual protagonist of the series? Oh, SAVE HIM kid was his daughter I guess? Why does fire kill the robots if FNaF3 already established that _fire doesn't kill the robots?_ The actual roster of robots is... lacking. Ennard got split back into Baby (who doesn't act like Baby) and the others (only Funtime Freddy says anything). The Puppet is a furry now and sure is... present. And Afton became a peanut and spends all his time monologuing and gets upstaged by Baby, who doesn't act like Baby. Also the company dies again but don't worry it'll be back in the next game. UCN- B-tier. UCN is vague enough that actually grasping what's happening in it is a lot of guesswork, but the guess is pretty alright. Afton is either in hell or in a coma (per a book) and is being tormented forever by The One He Should Not Have Killed, who is probably the last loose end, Golden Freddy. He'll be forced to face the horrors he's created until Cassidy(?) finally leaves him to his demons and goes to their own rest. Pretty satisfactory as a final ending, diminished by it not being the final ending and being a big guess. Security Breach- F-tier. Either Vanny got completely wasted in one go or she got forgotten about entirely. Also, Afton is either not present at all, back to die again for no reason, or actually the result of Dollar Tree Ennard committing identity theft. FNaFtubers will insist forever that this is actually peak fiction despite being the equivalent of having Bowser replaced by a robot wearing a Party City costume that doesn't do anything cool. That said I think the overall opinion of the franchise is shading my thoughts here. I think FNaF 1-3 are solid and it should've stopped there. FNaF4 is unnecessary and has very silly robot designs. SL through Pizza Sim didn't really have time to solidify and build up to its rushed ending (either Henry needed some buildup besides "It's that guy from books who made a robot stab him to death but not dead" or Mike needed to be the speech-giver) with a robot cast that feels like a checklist designed to get Afton, Baby, and Freddy's VAs back in the game. UCN is a fitting enough grand finale but comes a bit late, after things have gotten too messy. And who knows what's going on with Steel Wool.
The real FNAF ending is
the friends we made along the way
truly a freddy fazbear along the way
o k
I’m so glad I opened the comments
FRIENDS NEVER ABANDON FRIENDS
The True FNAF ending was Matpat's retirement
This may be a joke but for me Matpat was the only thing holding FNAF interesting
The good ending.
I wish the fnaf 3 jumpscares were good so that it couldve been the last game. I might be in the minority here but i loved the simpler story - guy in suit kills kids. Kid spirits kill guy. Kids spirits freed. The name afton not muttered a single time.
Never thought I'd say this but I miss when we thought Purple Guy's name was Vincent lol
me too. it would've been better that way
Even if FNAF continued they should've atleast had FNAF 1-3 or even FNAF 1-4 been it's own story. Be the end of the original story. And Sister Location be in another timeline or set decades in the future not connecting to the old games.
FNAF 6 & UCN would've been fine too, it should've ended there. But FNAF Help Wanted and Security Breach wanted to continue the timeline that should've ended at 3,4 or UCN. Security Breach should've been a new timeline and reboot to the franchise. A breath of fresh air.
Old FNAF and New FNAF don't mix together at all, they're both trying different things.
Old FNAF = paranormal horror ghost mystery
New FNAF = Sci-Fi, kid robots, VR virus, not scary
FNAF 2's jumpscares sucked lol. Praise 3 frames with a goofy ahh sound
I'm glad five nights at Freddy's is a massive franchise with a movie multiple books and games, the lore is confusing as hell but at the end of the day the games and their gameplay and some of the books are just generally cool and I'm glad they exist.
I would much rather have FNAF 4 been a dream than it being Afton torturing his children at night with gas for some reason.
It is a dream, it's just Michael's nightmares happening because of being in the experiment house lol
I always thought it was Mike having a dream that he was his brother and he was being tortured by him and his friends. I think this is what made Mike become the guard in fnaf 2. Idk, fans 3 is confusing.
@@mr.monkey354 yeah I want it to be a dream minus all of the experimentation shenanigans from Afton since it doesn’t make sense and it just makes Afton look like a cartoon villain rather than an actual person
UCN is the end of the story for me.
Yeah because that should be the ending since it’s the personalised eternal hell of purple guy
@TipsyStickIt's not hell. It's a comatose nightmare caused by Andrew.
@@8onnie8oyz WHO'S ANDREW?
@@secretusggYeah who tf is that man Andrew😂😂😂
@secretusgg Andrew is a character from The Man in Room 1280. It's part of the Stitchwraith storyline in Frights, which is a direct epilogue to FNAF 6. The Man in Room 1280 is about a corpse being sent to the hospital after being found. However, the corpse is still alive. While studying his consciousness, they find out a second consciousness is living in his own mind. It's heavily implied that this is UCN. Not just that, but all the soundtracks in UCN directly reference dreams. The story ends with the corpse of William Afton exploding, and Andrew's spirit being released.
The afton family ending was a satisfying ending to what the series had come to be at that point.
Like mentioned in the fnaf 1 part it's the simplicity but mysterious nature it had that made it so enticing and fnaf 3 gave it not truly a conclusion but a full circle to the main mystery (Purple guy), the fact we didn't even know his name and whether he was still out there always felt part of the charm of not fully knowing what was going on but knowing just enough to piece it together.
FNAF then: Ghosts possessing robots
FNAF now: Undead purple people, time-traveling ballpits, evil VR games, and Seabonnies
Where did we go wrong?
@@superdevton1137
When it became a franchise without any plan for the story
@@superdevton1137when people could not let springtrap be forgotten.
@@superdevton1137 When they decided to milk it dry without an actual plan... 👀
@@Leo-ok3uj it's still fun
it's not often I hear someone using necrodancer music, I had already like the video but imma have to like it again smh
hell yeah
no wai-
So you unliked it?
*"NecroDancer fan spotted. Initiate communication mode"*
OMG that's awesome!!!
its crazy how we thought fnaf was going to end for so long, and suddenly, something has changed in the last 3-4 years that makes it feel like its FAR from over. for the first time i cant see fnaf ending anytime soon
The infinite money machine will never get shut down
3:55 while not directly confirmed we did have the minigames in FNAF2 that heavily implied that was the case.
Fun Fact: FNaF has "died" more times than Afton has.
FNaF - 5: FNaF 1 (was supposed to be the finale of scottsgames, lol), FNaF 3, FNaF 4, FNaF Pizza Sim, UCN
Afton - 2: Springlock (FNaF 3) and Burning (Pizza Sim - assuming Burntrap is Mimic)
Note: Yeah, Springtrap didn't die in FNaF 3....hell, William doesn't actually die much, he just fails to. He comes back because he doesn't die, not because he does lol....also not counting UCN, physical deaths only. Still, funny to say Afton died twice.
extra note: tallying up Fazbear Frights too, that'd add an extra... 2? for afton. His body would have certainly passed on if not for Andrew, thus, he's technically just barred from death instead of surviving. Meanwhile, his second death was drowning as The Agony.
Overall doesn't change, Afton truly died a maximum of 4 times...and FNaF beat him without even trying to survive, yet always came back.
Wait how is Burntrap the mimic if he shows up in Security Breach? I haven’t really kept up with the lore since SB so I think I missed something lmao
@@sphinxiguessWillam died
It just the mimic being the new aftoj
Sister location was supposed to be the end as well
@@Mid-FinityIt ended with a cliffhanger, so I doubt it.
Fazbear Entertainment has also died more times:
FNaF1, FNaF3, and Pizza Sim all end with everything Fazbear-related dead and buried.
During the Help Wanted and Security Breach sections of the video, I was wondering: "what if, instead, the new story would have been entirely about Fazbear Entertainment trying to burn its own history?" Animatronics would be programmed with safeguards so that any curious onlooker who started to learn more than they should've would get "taken care of" or something like that? The question then would be "why though? Why go through al the trouble of doing this?" Maybe the executives know something? Maybe Afton's research keeps going, somehow? Heck, maybe they're the ones who keep bringing Afton back again and again. There is so many things you couls do with this kind of beginning!
none of the first six games had a cliffhanger or something that was intentionally left open to be resolved on a sequel (except Sister Location's Golden Freddy). So theoricly any of the first six games are an attempt to end the series. I mean, i doubt that at any of the time Scott finished any of the first six games, he was already thinking to make a sequel.
What do you mean? Fnaf 4 had a big cliff hanger with the locked box at the end of it
@@ItsLeBridge
"Said cliff hanger was supossed to be resolved in fnaf world"
"Its not like anyone was waiting a future game to answer the box"
i agree. I believe there's a timeline for each game where the events of which exist on their own and cut off everything before and /or after it
Well no, FNAF 2 was made with FNAF 3 in mind same with sister location being made with pizza Sim in mind
(and technically pizza Sim had ucn in mind though it was supposed to be DLC but got upgraded to game)
You: special delivery wasn't a main line entry right?
Me: well it did actually start Vanny's story and continue glitchtrap's story so what do you say?
You: "screams in agony and anger"
lets not forget that fnaf world may be canon
I think the best ending/iteration of the story would have to be ScrimpusMcGrimpus's FNaF VHS series. It retells the original trilogy in a way that feels much more neat and satisfying than it's source material (even if that's only because it wouldn't be too hard to clean up what Scott was doing with 1-3).
oops!
I think the age of consent is 18
@@AshyMuted yeah bro I know they turned out to be a pedo, that doesn't mean that their FNaF VHS series is all of a sudden bad
If only Scrimpus wasn't a criminal, criminal, criminal, criminal, criminal, criminal, criminal
Gotta admit, even if scrimpus turned out to be a bad person, their VHS series is still probably the best one out there.
I’m surprised you didn’t mention how Sister Location chose to have a sci-fi, android aesthetic despite taking place, at most, in the 90’s. I personally thought that it broke the world building of the previous 4 games (and even fnaf 6, since that went back to being more realistic). So, I’m not too fond of it (despite the nostalgic memories).
I hate the Sister Location art style, the animatronics just have wires inside instead of a real endo skeleton like the previous games
Once again, a really well made video! Keep it up!
Great video, subscribed, pressed like, hit the bell, all that jazz. I wasn't originally going to comment, but then I saw Homestuck in this video and now I am obligated by law to comment on it.
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Fnaf is like William afton, it always comes back 💀
hello, a brazilian speaking here, I met you through the deltarune video, and I have something to say "this is the great and useful theory of fnaf"
if Security Breach's ending gets a D, what im the world does a FNAF ending have to do to earn an F?
On the note of pizzeria simulator, iircthe RUclipsr Notrealnamenotatall did a video about the flaws in the ending which point *many* that are glossed over or not drawn attention to. Such as the fact the puppet is constantly getting electric tortured.
And on my personal perspective, hints such as UCN lines and behavior clues that somewhat imply puppet is likely docile inside Lefty, whilst it's the electric iron maiden known known as Lefty who is attacking the player while the marionette is forced along like a puppet on strings. Not to mention how for such short knights it's still one of the games where you can have a literal unbeatable situation because for some reason Henry can't get even slightly safe vent covers. Not to mention he expected a survival noob to juggle the animatronics all week and it likely being Michael was a happy surprise
all of pizzeria sim could've been beat if michael bought a second flashlight...
I mean constant low power electricity can be soothing, I don't think it's explicitly a controlled shock.
The puppet is still clearly a threat, regardless if it's docile, a 10ft tall creature who can snap at any moment and trap your soul inside of a plastic toy is still a huge threat (and fnaf 2 proves it's not completely docile, as soon as the music box runs out it instantly charges at Jeremy with killing intent), So it needed to be contained somehow.
Also about the night segments, Henry likely needed to give the Animatronics a reason to stay there before he could burn them, so having someone else for them to hunt would be a good way for him to keep the animatronics from escaping. he also likely couldn't do it himself cuz he's an old Man, so he probably had to take the risk and rely on someone else for the job.
LMP p
please
i realized that the background music for the dream theory segment sounded like an loz:oot remake of christmastime is here and i cant focus on anything else
"trilogy is the only number of entries with a specific name."
duology: allow us to introduce ourselves.
(I don't count fnaf 1 & 2 as an ending but it wasn't confirmed for there to be a third so idk we might as well still count them)
I just completely gave up on the story since its very clear the plot was lost. I just ignore everything after fnaf 6 and UCN lore wise. Fnaf vr is goated for gameplay, tho.
UCN isn’t really an ending, it’s an epilogue.
Death of creativity is absence of any borders. That's why fnaf 3 ending is my goat
Woah, I was actually looking for a video like this! I’m sure this is going to be a great watch!
Loving the Astral Chain OST during the Help Wanted section !
the celeste music suddenly kicking in gave me war flashbacks... i hope your pasta always overcooks..
By the way, not going to check every comment here for another mention, but the princess quest ending IS the canon one. The non canon ones are all drawn as comic books cassy finds. So yeah burntrap is canonically a figment of greggy’s inagination. Also it’s the only one which has three stars
Loved this vid so much. Hilarious and thoughtful the whole way through. Sister location is the only fnaf game I have ever owned. Help wanted should have taken some notes from fnaf 1.
FNaF wants to die like the PC you left on for the last month
Bro i love your voice, you have the best voice i have ever heard from any other RUclipsr.
Laurence the First Vicar’s theme in the first minute of the video?? Fastest subscription ever
24:22 CEAVE GAMING REFERENCE
Hearing Task Force Neuron in a video is an instant sub from me
If you really think about it in a retrospective pov,
Fnaf 4 and Friday the 13th Part 4 share so much in common.
Both were the fourth installments of a franchise that gained immense popularity during its early days.
Both were meant to be the final conclusion of their series, but had more installments come afterwards.
Finally, both technically were the final chapters in terms of arcs; Ft13th 4 was the end of human Jason, and FNAF 4 was the final game to by a numbered naming scheme.
Imagine a theory being so correct you make a new game that contradicts your own lore in spite of that theory
I rememeber all these endings since the beginning XD
3:49 WHAT? WHEN THIS BECAME A THING? HOW?
Watching the security breach segment is interesting now. They pretty much decanonized the afton ending, now leaning heavily into the princess quest ending. It also seems like glitchtrap wasnt afton either. I suspect the afton ending in sb wasnt scott's intent. He said in a recent interview that there were miscommunications with steelwool that basically led to them writing their own story.
MatPat is a modern retelling of Sisyphus
Fnaf: I always come back
seeing this video when it's reported that the fnaf lore is supposed to continue with their upcoming collaboration with dead by daylight is golden
it's like. fine. right? but I really don't think dream theory was the intended ending for fnaf 4. I think fnaf 4 was supposed to explain golden freddy like how the other new fnaf media at the time (the silver eyes) tried to explain the puppet. I think that if anyone at the time had realized that the crying child's older brother was actually mike schmidt, we would have had an actual conclusion to fnaf, with the ending being the same as fnaf 3 but with additional motive for the protagonist.
no hate on this 2 year old video but it bothers me a little when people assume that scott intended such a cop-out ending as if he wasn't respected as a storyteller/puzzlemaster up to that point
It's a reocurring thing for almost any fanbase for ppl to assume the creator just got stupid near the end. But really, there was nothing in FNaF4 hinting towards Mike Schmidt being the brother. A single name drop and everything would've changed.
i think he said himself in a reddit post somewhere that he did intend dream theory at first but realized it wasn’t a good ending and retconned it with sl. that’s what i’ve heard at least
@nickythehickey if you can find the post I would love to see it!
@@onioncutteryou know, besides the FNAF 1 phone calls that make you wonder how it's connected
@@mr.monkey354 FNaF4 = first FNaF game with no Phone Guy. Usually If something is missing from the game it gets quickly added as an easter egg (FNaF 3 Golden Freddy, Puppet and Mangle) As to why it was the first game's phone call out of all of them, the first night's call is the most iconic, and since this was meant to be an ending to the series, a throwback to the first game isn't anything new for games like these.
If Scott wanted it to have plot relevance he could've made it more special. 2 games ago dolls made of paper were entering your office as Easter eggs.
Dream Theory was never retconed. While I fully believe that FNAF 4 had completely different plans from what it is in the lore now, I highly doubt that making the series a dream was the true intention for the game. It's never directly stated, but Mr. Hippos has a monolog about how you shouldn't look into every little thing until you go mad, which implies that dream theory was never true and was talked about for years anyway. My more concrete reason for believing that it was never a thing was that Scott made the infamous FNAF 4 box and said that he would open it if anyone found out the meaning of the game. Within that time, he gave 4 hints/relivent questions on his website, which were the clues that led Matpat to make dream theory. The problem being that Scott announced before FNAF World that he would not reveal what was in the box because no one found out the meaning of FNAF 4 even after dream theory came out, and I personally believe he called it off because dream theory muddled the water so that more people would be coming to Scott telling him to open the box because Matpat has the answer rather than look less deep than they were. Also, dream theory could be true for literally any show, movie, game, and whatnot out there, so I don't understand why FNAF 4 specifically is the one people are banking had that lazy plot device that no one used since Mario 2.
Thank you. Scott has also pretty explicitly denied and even made fun of dream theory. There's no way it's canon. As for better theories... Arcade theory must become more well known
I consider Fnaf 2 as the actual beginning of the entire Fnaf story, and it was where everything was set-up.
Fnaf world was the actual beginning of Elizabeth's story and Henry's story, which was concluded in Pizza Simulator, and story of Sister Location was just a continuation of Fnaf World
The astral chain ost caught me off guard lmao, peak choice
It its now your CIVIC duty to talk about the NEW beginning: THE SECRET OF MIMIC
I like to pretend the dream theory is canon and that fnaf 4 was the last instalment…
Even in a fnaf video, the memories of the ruination fumble are inescapable
Golden Freddy and the Puppet were both known to be possessed by children in FNAF 2
thank you for not relentlessly trashing in sister location for once like everyone else seems to like to lol
I really wish it ended, and that statement comes out of love, I feel like Im watching my favorite horror franchise getting family guyed, Simpsoned, and spongebobed
Your humor reminds me a lot of Red Letter Media. Keep up the good work in your videos.
I never really liked dream theory for the series as a whole. I accept it for fnaf4 itself, that is where it seems intentional, but the rest of the games no. Fnaf 1 and 2 explore the vengeful spirits of a deranged killer we only get bits and pieces of, fnaf 3 deals with that deranged killer directly, and fnaf 4 provides a glimpse into what his life was like and what made him go off the deep end by exploring the life and recurrant nightmares of his son.
My theory for fnaf 1-4 is as follows: Purple guy's son scares easily, and interprets so much of what he sees as murder and generslly awful at his dad's workplace, but it isn't really anything. The son is killed, and the father breaks mentally, swearing to put his son "back together." From there, purple guy goes on a killing spree, partly out of self indulgent revenge, but also because he finds that somehow the children he kills are able to possess animatronics. Maybe he really can bring his son back. But the weight of his sins haunt him until the literal ghosts of the children he killed scare him into the old rusty suit he used to commit the murders, which then kills him, but his soul too possesses the machine. Fnaf 3 sees us almost kill him but ooooo sequel bait, maybe it didn't work.
To me, it's a satisfying story that provides us with the victims, method, motive, and a bit of worldbuilding to give us a satisfying ending to the series. Sister Location and Pizzeria Sim expand on the worldbuilding more and retroactively change some lore, but they feel like a fine enough continuation and ending. But, 1-4 being dreams isn't satisfying to me. 4 definitely could be, 1-3 no, those happened.
Honestly, Pizzeria Simulator and UCN final was PERFECT.
And Security Breach could be a AWESOME “reopening” (funny word to say Reboot) to the series, a fresh new start, but naaaahhhh
I can’t see Dream Theory being 100% confirmed. Scott had already pictured a story by the time he was making fnaf 2. Fnaf 3 was supposed to be an end of the franchise and I doubt he make the story with it all being a dream in mind.
"Trio is the only thing wity a special name" (duo)
how on gods green earth are you so underrated
IDC what happens to me the series ended at pizza simulator/ultimate custom night
The thing about Scott is that he's a go with the flow type of writer. He only comes up with story as he goes along and prefers keeping up the mystery to making an actual end. So of course game theory could never come to any satisfactory permanent conclusion because that would mean the mystery is over and Scott didn't want that
11:36idk I actually prefer it because
1:flollows the show don't tell because if they didn't include it and Michael just popup later that would way way Way worse than this
2:it reestablishs supernaturality in it because we saw his spine being removed yet he is standing upright without a Skelton... Or internal organs so we know there is some sort of supernatural power holding him together
For me 3/4 is the end of the story. It capped it off before going in a weird direction and was meant to be the original finale and 4 is a prequel so just ignore the weird sci-fi stuff that got added later
2:25 "You're a buffoon"
That hurt :(
b-but you forgot fnaf world sir
Did he though?
5:55 i think many people (especially young people) like and use cliche because they haven’t experienced the cliche before, and are unaware of just how bad it is. “it was all a dream” feels a lot more innovative if you haven’t ever seen Wizard of Oz.
technically 1 was supposed to be an ending, it was a project born out of pure malice and spite meant to end scott's game development career
strong words
@@codename_nons1141 why else would i use them?
No it wasn’t. It was one final attempt where he tried working to his strengths. It wasn’t “grrr you want a scary animatronic game, you’re getting one!”, it was “if I can’t do a cute game without it being scary, maybe I should make a scary game”. He didn’t want to go back to his crappy job since he liked making games, even if none of them get hit it big.
Framing FNAF as something made out of spite is such a mean-spirited take. If Scott truly grew to hate making games then he wouldn't have made like 20 FNAF sequels.
Gotta love how even though the community was displeased with how Afton kept coming back, he brought him back for the millionth time anyway XD (Thanks Scott
I am very hurt that you put FNaF 2 at "F", that's my favorite game in the series!!
AR is presumably canon, and we can't forget FNAF World with it appending the ending of 3 and teasing SL
Ironically Fnaf 3, 4 and 6 ending always had that slight chance to not end either in the games themselves in the ending of five nights at Freddies free if you brighten up the screen you can actually see that spring trap is still alive, for the ending of five nights at Freddys, 4 the thank you message gets turned into the Fnaf world menu and I guarantee that five nights of Freddy six was never the intended ending of the series, but more or less a intended ending for the Afton story line since it was confirmed William was never supposed to come back again
Maybe we can countinue your narrative that we can divide the story and make help wanted a beggining to the mimic story, and then we maybe can have some peace knowing that afton died at fnaf 6, hopefully.. (i'm writing this after ruin and before any other fnaf game)
3 is always where the story ended for me, with 4-6 being side stories
The story fell off once it started reaching Kingdom Hearts levels of convoluted lol
i just realised you play christmas music in this... in october
The DLC as of the beginning of 2025 has been out for ages now. It's bad compared to your theories. Afton has definitely died.
For me UCN was the epilogue to the pizza-sim sending. Walter Affron is gone from the earth already and it tells a story that takes place in purgatory.
this was a video about fnaf, and yet the only character to jumpscare me was vriska lmao
The ending for me will always be Pizza simulator. Indeed the most satisfying way I've ever seen this series go, the follow up game UCN showing us where Afton ended up playing as him hunted for all eternity by his monsters is so great man
Everything that came after that came up with dumb excuses to keep bringing him back was just dumb and I consider it noncannon. Help Wanted take place in our reality meanwhile Security breach is a different timeline
Lore of Looking Back at the Countless Endings of FNAF momentum 100
1:12
I thought this was an anakin skywalker joke for a minute
Technically any series that’s more than 3 entries is a saga
laurence the first vicar jumpscare
2:10 …Duuuuuuuuology?
This is why I literally refuse to accept anything FnaF related past-2016 unless it's a good fangame from FnaC or TJOC series and the movies.
Dude, you compare Michael rising from throwing up animatronics to Sion's passive made my day. That's so funny i don't wanna watch the rest of the video😅😅😅😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
15:00 homestuck reference in 2024???
scarier jumpscare than any of the fnaf games,whenever i find a homestuck fan in the wild
* clears throat *
*_FNAF WORLD!!!_*
SB is fair because Burntrap wasn't even meant to be a character or even move. Scott Cawthon said that he included the model as a simple easter egg, but Steel Wool took it to mean that Afton somehow came back and wanted to rue his vengance
I’d like to think that there will be history majors in the future with a concentration in FNAF lore
Not in FNAF lore exactly
But probably in how FNAF lore affected the opinions of the general public on the 2010s
the backround music is like undertale ost if it came out of a different universe
I think I rate the endings like this:
FNaF1 (It was originally a one-and-done)- B-tier. Nothing too fancy but it has a simple and relatively satisfying outcome. There's an unsafe pizzeria with probably-haunted robots, the probable-haunting is the result of some child murders that happened there, the killer was caught and convicted, and the pizzeria closes because the robots are creepy and smell bad and nobody wants to go to the restaurant with the bleeding snot robots that bite people and five kids got aliven't. It works well enough.
FNaF3- A-tier. After three games, the souls of the killer's victims are put to rest, and the killer himself is bested. The company is long-dead, and the physical remains are burned to ash. There's a small hint that Springtrap escaped and a few unanswered questions, but that's absolutely fine.
FNaF4- D-tier. Dream endings will forever be unsatisfying, and FNaF4 itself couldn't more obviously be a game that got stapled onto the end purely for gameplay reasons, without a satisfying story. Some kid we never met before this game dies and all the characters and plot points we were invested in were just his imagination. Great.
FNaF6- C-tier. The speech is really good, but Henry came right the fuck out of nowhere. Why is some dead dude from a book giving this speech instead of the actual protagonist of the series? Oh, SAVE HIM kid was his daughter I guess? Why does fire kill the robots if FNaF3 already established that _fire doesn't kill the robots?_ The actual roster of robots is... lacking. Ennard got split back into Baby (who doesn't act like Baby) and the others (only Funtime Freddy says anything). The Puppet is a furry now and sure is... present. And Afton became a peanut and spends all his time monologuing and gets upstaged by Baby, who doesn't act like Baby. Also the company dies again but don't worry it'll be back in the next game.
UCN- B-tier. UCN is vague enough that actually grasping what's happening in it is a lot of guesswork, but the guess is pretty alright. Afton is either in hell or in a coma (per a book) and is being tormented forever by The One He Should Not Have Killed, who is probably the last loose end, Golden Freddy. He'll be forced to face the horrors he's created until Cassidy(?) finally leaves him to his demons and goes to their own rest. Pretty satisfactory as a final ending, diminished by it not being the final ending and being a big guess.
Security Breach- F-tier. Either Vanny got completely wasted in one go or she got forgotten about entirely. Also, Afton is either not present at all, back to die again for no reason, or actually the result of Dollar Tree Ennard committing identity theft. FNaFtubers will insist forever that this is actually peak fiction despite being the equivalent of having Bowser replaced by a robot wearing a Party City costume that doesn't do anything cool.
That said I think the overall opinion of the franchise is shading my thoughts here. I think FNaF 1-3 are solid and it should've stopped there. FNaF4 is unnecessary and has very silly robot designs. SL through Pizza Sim didn't really have time to solidify and build up to its rushed ending (either Henry needed some buildup besides "It's that guy from books who made a robot stab him to death but not dead" or Mike needed to be the speech-giver) with a robot cast that feels like a checklist designed to get Afton, Baby, and Freddy's VAs back in the game. UCN is a fitting enough grand finale but comes a bit late, after things have gotten too messy. And who knows what's going on with Steel Wool.
I think it shoudve ended with Pizza Simulator, its my favourite too
Matpat sort of exacerbates things, doesn't he?
Duology
I always felt like 3 was where it was best suited to end, Pizzeria Simulator being the next best choice.
i think we got pizzaria sim as so we had smth to do whilst waiting for the new game so
ok dream theory shiller, thanks for wasting my time
The real ending is the one where Nicolas Cage drives in and slaughters all the animatronics without uttering a single word.