Practical Method vs Wrestling by Sun Yang 20210328
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 29 сен 2024
- Chen Zhonghua's practical Method disciple Sun Yang push hands with Shandong Provincial Wrestling Championship 4th Place winner on March 28, 2021. They each used their own rules.
2021.03.28陈中华实用拳法弟子孙洋和山东体育学院省锦标赛自由跤第四名在各自规则下和推手进行交流
孙洋对摔跤20210328
English site: www.practicalmethod.com
Chinese site: www.shiyongquanfa.cn
![DDG & G Herbo - Nosey [Official Video]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/I9Ra0Zc2NlQ/mqdefault.jpg)
Nice training. Well done from both of you.
Great job! This is how we keep taichi from dying out as a legite martial art.
The channel "fight commentary breakdown" are the ones who diss Tai chi. Calling it a fake martial art. If you could send this footage to them, please do so. I "m of the older generation. Don't know how to do it.
@@charlesbetancourt7337 it is very irritating that people think that taichi is a b.s. martial art
@@tysonvslewis12 This footage and what I"ve experienced Iin Chinese martial arts proves them wrong. From what I've seen, the practitioner here uses these takedowns in the Muay Thai ring.
@@charlesbetancourt7337 just let it be whatever the masses think. If taiji or any traditional martial art isn't needed (has no place in this world) anymore then all energy to preserve it is for naught, only delaying the inevitable.
If it is needed, it won't be a lost art.
Don't overthink it, just practice until you're good enough to pass it down (people want to learn from you). That's the greatest thing one can do to respect the art.
@@trym2121 You have bullets and pepper mace. In that case all martial styles are not needed. Bows and arrows, swords and shields are not needed in today's warfare. But they're still around. Things become marginalized instead of disappearing. You show the masses it works. Three out of ten might change their minds the rest will stick to their stubborn beliefs. A good new video " World series Tai chi push hands(match 1), ( match 2), ( Match3) Sifu Nicco true Tai chi push hands Orange county". Match 3 Nicco beat a black belt bjj guy 15-0. The bjj crowd there had no choice but to change their minds about Tai chi.Now there's an alliance between the two arts.
Well I guess you really have to just sprawl against a double leg, as much as some tai chi people are unwilling to admit
Great skill from both!
Please make more videos with wrestler
💪💪💪 Shows that when the opponent has similar experience, skill etc, then it's difficult. Would like to see push hands with Bagua, Xingyi, Wu (Ng) Taichi etc.
This is great! There should be more exchanges with other grapplers beyond the rather limited push hands rule set.
Agree, the strengths of Taiji are obvious but so are the gaps in training due to the limited rule set.
@Adam A. Sure, but traditional martial arts needed to be holistic to survive in combat without rules against people from other styles. Most styles, including MMA and Taiji are constrained by current rule sets and have been turned into sports. Personally, I'm interested in martial arts as disciplines for self-development, and to develop focus, physicality, mindset and strategy. I like competition, but the sports side doesn't interest me and I see it and a narrow rule set as something that limits the art.
@Adam A. I agree with you about modern day and that MMA has expanded out the base again to cover different ranges of fighting. I'm referring to when these methods of fighting were created for the battle field or to protect someone's village or family. The styles had to be resilient and account for a broad range of responses not just other people training in a similar method. Of course, during peace time the practical imperative has lessened and then MMA gave an opportunity for people to see how it works when someone hasn't trained broadly and practically - though still not to the degree of actual combat.
@Adam A. Sure, some was in armour, but if you're walking around your village and bandits attack you're probably not wearing armour. Jujitsu, Taiji, etc all originated from real combat, which is my point.
I also feel like we largely agree re MMA. My only point is that it's still limited due to the rules as it's a sport. Eg, someone recently kneed a downed opponent and knocked them out, they were disqualified and lost the fight even though the opponent was unconscious. So, people will avoid that tactic. It's also done in a fairly padded space which reduces the effectiveness of throws as on harder ground a throw by itself might end the fight. If you took it further, spending 10 mins on the ground if you were in a fight with multiple people is unrealistic as the other people would have too much opportunity to attack you. So, the style evolves based on the rules and situation created by the sport, that's my only point - the rules dictate the evolution of the style.
MMA has a broader rule set which makes it more likely to be practical. We both agree on that, and personally I think Taiji rules should also be broader to make it more effective. I get they're trying to differentiate from Sanda, etc but Taiji has a bad name as a fighting art even though what it does do well is quite effective because it's rarely seen and if applied against broader styles such as MMA it would likely lose due to people not training across all ranges (striking, throws, ground). So the gaps in training become the weakness. Again, that was my original point.
@Adam A. I feel you're arguing for the sake of it. I did mention protecting the village, go read my previous comments.
Hopefully my point is clear. If you disagree so be it. I don't think there's any ultimate style they all excel in different areas and for different people /desires. I like Taiji and was simply suggesting more training with other styles would be useful.
Happy to have a conversation, but this feels circular rather than us making progress.