I get what you're saying. Financially, I am not someone who can make it to Shanghai to ride attractions like Tron, so bringing it closer to home is something I appreciate.
Universal did the same thing for a while. Replaced old rides with basically a refit from a more recent IP. However, they seemed to listen to guest feedback and now seem intent on offering new experiences which is great to see. Disney on the other hand don’t seem to be doing quite as well in that regard.
with disney running on a fixed amount of space. I think every unique attraction is a reason to go to another park ... that's more money.. I have no intrest in disneyland bc disneyworld is just a buffed up version.
As someone living in Central Europe I‘m extremely torn concerning this topic. On one hand I absolutely agree with everything that you said in the video. On the other hand it would be amazing to have something like Flight of Passage or Radiator Springs Racers in Paris. So maybe there‘s a middleground where Disney could use similar IPs and ride systems whilst still keeping a certain difference between every version. They did it once when they translated Haunted Mansion, Space Mountain and so on to the european market and created something different enough so that people from around would still want to visit this exact park. Let‘s hope Disney will come back to this strategy someday.
It’s also the case of knowing you may never travel to those further away parks and so having similar rides you know are brilliant would be a great idea to add to your nearest park. What you said about having the same ride but changing the story and theming would be a good idea. It’s not difficult to do and a simple way of updating a ride somewhere else. Let’s see what they do with the new Frozen land and the ride they are installing these. It’s supposed to be the same as the ones in the American parks 😅
At least we won‘t get the animatronics with the projected faces (I hope!) but instead something more similar to the Hong Kong version so that’s a win I guess
Yeah but wouldn't we love to see anything at all come to Paris? I mean, the last expansion to the castle park was Buzz Lightyear of all things. Literally, anything would be fantastic haha
@@robinhorst706 I would not complain about anything new coming to DLP, it’s much needed however, when Ratatouille opened, it was the first of its kind and the only Ratatouille ride in any of the parks, it was nice to have that, but now Epcot has it. It just seems like a lack of imagination in Disneys part. Apparently, there’s a rumour circulating that they are going to turn the Tron ride into a Star Wars Speeder ride and place it in Discoveryland, behind Space Mountain, now that I like as even though it’s the same baseline ride, the concept is different
Coming from Europe, Eurodisney is more or less my home park. Comparing this park to other Disney parks gives the impression that Europe is being fobbed off with below average attractions. The park doesn't really have a standout attraction. And if there's anything new somewhere else, Eurodisney gets a very bad copy. For example, Florida gets the Avengers and in Europe the entire Rock'n Rollercoaster is simply and lovelessly re-themed to Avengers. Disney thinks that must be enough for Europe. I wish there was at least an equivalent copy in Eurodisney. That would be a significant increase in quality. I don't even dare to dream of a really outstanding and unique attraction.
I don't know how Disney plans to compete with other amazing parks in Europe like Efteling, Europapark, Phantasialand or even Parc Asterix... These are opening new rides constantly and keep their reasonable prices and guest policies, while Disney is getting more unaffordable every year and tries to make the guest experience worse. And let's not even talk about the completely underbuilt studios park. Disney just does not have enough rides to justify the prices. They need a lot more and better rides so that people don't feel dissatisfied that they just waited in lines for half a day riding 7 rides. Ride capacity remains the number 1 issue of both parks
with how aggressively Disney has been pricing out all but the richest guests, they might not actually expect anyone to visit more than one Disney park in their lives
I think a lot of Disney people look at this "problem" from a very, very first world perspective. For most, a trip to any Disney park is a once in a lifetime or maybe once a decade experience. I've met only one other family who's been to all 12 parks and I would not be surprised at all if _every_ American who's ever ridden TRON Lightcycle Power Run (Shanghai) could ride TRON Lightcycle Run (WDW) in less than a day. Cloning Galaxy's Edge made sense at the time, but since Disney ran Star Wars into the ground, one is more than enough.
There is huge value in having DL and DCA a short walk from each other - and it's one of main reasons we don't go to Disney World... unless there is a huge disparity in attractions between sites, no is no justification to go somewhere further away, and thus more expensive.
I have always said that Disney completely blew it with Galaxies Edge. I am a huge Star Wars fan even becoming a member 20 years ago of the 501st. What they should have done is build 2 different lands. Build an interactive place unique to California and a different unique planet unique to Florida. They could continue this in all of their parks around the world. Giving me desire to travel to each one to get the full experience.
Wow , I was just thinking if they were to make wdw changed to the original Star Wars time-line would be cool. But What You Thought of Is Incredible! That is the most perfect thing for WD to do. The $$$$ They would have coming from All the SW fans. They need to hire You.. Really. Cause they completely wasted their opportunity with STAR WARS the same thing in both parks.
@@eddybig2781 The "major" issue with that was that they were planning on Rise of Skywalker being amazing, so Star Wars fans would just *have* to see the 'missing chapter' of the story...which you could only do by visiting Galaxy's Edge and paying for the dinner show (which became the Galactic Starcruiser.) Because of that assumption, they seemed to feel they needed *four Galaxy's Edges* to ultimately handle all of the capacity required. (Plans existed at one point for full versions in Paris and Shanghai) Of course, Rise of Skywalker was both self-contained and pissed off enough of the fanbase with discretionary income that the need for that never materialized, and the 'Missing movie' part of the narrative was toned down to the point where, while GE is still popular, it's not...uh...required viewing. And the Starcruiser, amazing as it is, doesn't have broad appeal.
I have the same thought. Not to make the attractions themselves different but to come up with the same but different planet themes. Takes more time and writers to come up with the ideas but even if they are near 100% clones with a different coat of paint and costumes that would be cool. Still the chance to do that going forward though. But ultimately in the end I stood before the Millennium Falcon and it was the most moving moment of my entire Star Wars life.
You hit it right on the spot. I’m going to WDW in June, my family and I are going to three of the parks and chose to skip Hollywood studios cuz the only two rides they don’t have at Disneyland (were magic key holders) is slinky and rock n roller coaster. Since Mickey and Minnie’s opened there’s no huge reason for us to attend that park.I’m addition, if Tron wasn’t opening we wouldn’t have went to magic kingdom either but thankfully it is when we visit. Instead we’re going to universals two parks over Hollywood studios.
Agree on Disney Hollywood Studios. It has become my least desire to attend park because their big E tickets are also available at the Disneyland resort. The only thing DHS has for me as Muppetvision 3D and Tower of Terror(The only tower with the 5th dimension).
In June? As a local fan of WDW I need to give you the heads up that lines are insanely long, it will be hot as blazes, and it rains a whole lot. Have fun.
You're not missing much. It has some appeal and the restaurant theming is some of the best in the parks but that is about it. The Disneyland version of Fantasmic blows the WDW version away BTW. Being on the Rivers of America and that close to the action is so much better than being a stadium style show.
Tower of Terror isn't in California either. The one in DCA has always been a completely different ride than the Orlando version. Also Fantasmic! is not the same.
The one thing about cloning rides is accessibility. Not everyone can afford to fly wherever to ride the originals. For me, I'm probably the biggest TRON Fan in the PNW however flying to Florida to actually get to experience my favorite sci fi franchise ever is a lot. Vs in California, I can afford to visit the Temple of the Forbidden Eye without worrying too much financially. Personally i'm begging for a TRON ride or experience on this coast for that reason. As a major fan of the IP, what good is it if i can't ever actually see the ride itself?
I always thought Disney made a mistake with Galaxy’s Edge. They could have changed the theming, create some custom characters and have a whole new planet with a different story to tell. With a different Star Wars planet and story at each Disney location there are enough Star Wars fans on this planet who would make an effort to visit all of them.
As a person living in Asia and only flies within it, having copies of a ride (maybe nighttime spectaculars) from the American parks is a welcome addition to any of the parks here. I always wanted a Tower of Terror in HKDL since it's the nearest Disneyland for me, but we don't have it unfortunately. It doesn't have to be an exact replica like other's said. It can be a different version with a similar experience, just like how we have Big Grizzly Mountain than Big Thunder Mountain. The only reason why I'd fly to Florida is to actually visit the US for the first time and to watch Happily Ever After since that show ain't just gonna be in Tokyo Disneyland unlike how Once Upon a Time from Tokyo was adapted to the Magic Kingdom.
I honestly see no issue of reusing the same rides and attractions at different parks. The people who go to any of the resorts tend to only go to that one specific resort because of distance. Two thirds of Disney World's attendance comes from the Deep South, an even larger proportion of guests at Disneyland Park are from the West Cost or South West states and similarly for Tokyo Disneyland from Japan. The simple fact of the matter is the type of people like us who are willing to go to different continents just for these parks make up an exceptionally small part of the market, frankly a slice that's not even worthy of note.
Most guests are only going to ever visit one of the Disney resorts, so I don’t think cloning popular attractions is a bad thing at all. Like you mention Mystic Manor, but the majority of people visiting Hong Kong Disney are from Hong Kong (74% in 2018), and if they really wanted Cosmic Rewind, for example, to come to Hong Kong (and very few will ever travel to visit Epcot), why not give them what they want?
I think the main issue is what you said; since most guests only choose one park, the resort whose unique attractions have been cloned to other resorts loses its ability to stand out from the other Disney Parks. Which at the end, is more unlikely to be "selected" by guests as their first choice. For example, if Mystic Manor gets cloned to WDW in Orlando, why should guests check out the Hong Kong Disney Resort? The best thing to do as a theme park is to be able to make guests come back but without anything different or unique to be recognized from, there is no reason from guest to do so.
I think this was written from a place of privilege. It would be a dream come true for me someone local to Los Angeles to be able to visit the different parks around the world. But I dont have the means and never even been to Florida. I love that Disneyland got Galaxy’s Edge and Micky & Minnie. I hope that if Disneyland Forward comes to fruition that we get Tron as a part of the DCA expansion. That said there are still plenty of unique attractions at the other parks that make me want to visit them (if I can ever afford it).
and i dont have the means to fly to california or florida. but being australian i have to option of japan. 8K for tokyo disney or 15k for WDW and 10k for Ca.........
Flying was very affordable prepandemic if you were flexible and willing to shop. Now it is noticeably higher, especially if you need to buy tickets for a while family. I am a little shocked as well as to how much Disney has raised their prices. A Disney trip is expensive. There is no way around that.
Why should it be written from a place of non-priveledge? The Disney parks in general are a privilege. It makes total sense to have different attractions at each of the parks for people to aspire to visit...and if you never can, it's no big deal because you'll still have great rides that are exclusive to your park...
One efficient approach for Disney to create unique experiences at different parks while saving on development costs is by re-skinning existing attractions. For example, Mission Breakout was created by re-skinning Tower of Terror, and Radiator Springs Racers was adapted from Test Track. A potential update to Journey into Imagination could involve re-skinning Mystic Manor, with Figment taking the place of the monkey and Dreamfinder replacing Henry Mystic. Additionally, Disney could have designed two distinct versions of Galaxy's Edge, each based on different planets and storylines. For instance, Disney World could feature Batuu, focusing on the narrative of the new trilogy, while Disneyland could showcase Tatooine and the tale of the original trilogy. Both parks could still have Smugglers Run, but the Disneyland version would highlight Han Solo or Lando. Instead of Rise of the Resistance, Disneyland could present Rise of the Rebellion. By creating unique Galaxy's Edge iterations around the world, Disney would encourage visitors to explore different parks and experience all of them.
Yep, instead i live by disneyland and therefore will never need to visit Hollywood Studios in Orlando. That’s one less park ticket purchased. Not very smart thinking, Disney.
I very much agree with this. It's just more interesting to have unique rides for each park, and when I go to disneyland later this year, I'll be riding a lot of the same rides I did previously. The solution for this might be to retheme rides and change some aspect of lands in each park. Like, indiana jones adventure and dinosaur look like very different rides. And for something like galaxy's edge, making just one of the rides something original and altering the theming would separate it enough from each other
I’ve heard you (in previous videos) talk about how Disney wants fewer ‘fans’ and more ‘once in a lifetime’ guests at their park because the latter is more valuable (they spend more money), I see the carbon-copy strategy as an extension of this. If a person can only afford to visit the park closest to them, once in their lifetime, they want to feel like their getting the full experience, so it makes sense that all parks look the same.
That's still a bad thing. When I take over Disney I will be catering to the fans and purists. I don't want "once in a lifetime guests" unless they are willing to become purists. I will drain the swamp.
Totally agree with you guys! I'm kinda happy that at least all the Towers of Terror are (kinda) unique now with Paris separating itself from Orlando with the updated ride experiences
@@Emplordxiii true. But at least for me, that made Paris (and DCA which I personally only know as Guardians) like a downgrade. Not necessarily a different version.
A good example of a big company trying to make something new is Universal with Jurassic World Adventure, they could have just copied Jurassic World The Ride, but instead they made the best dinosaur ride in the world.
I’ve always seen copied attractions as a win-win, at least in theory. For the guest, it’s a chance to ride something that they likely never would’ve been able to ride otherwise. For the company, it’s more cost and time efficient than building a new ride (again, at least in theory). With TRON coming to WDW, it give me (as someone who does not and will not have the means to travel to Shanghai for the foreseeable future) the chance to actually experience it. I imagine that’s true for millions of people who find it more economically feasible to travel to Florida than to travel to Shanghai. With that said, I don’t want every ride at every park to be shared, I think having a handful of exclusives at each is a good thing. But I also appreciate being able to experience the best of what Disney has without having to travel to another country.
I agree that there is too much cloning, and it really got worse under Iger with Toy Story Land (especially since that lands so cheap). Eisner for the most part built entirely original attractions for parks like MGM Studios and Animal Kingdom. Atleast when Eisner did clone rides, he usually had details change (like with DLP versions, or Indy & Dino). With Iger they are not only exact copies, but they are lazier from the start since its all IP based lands. Iger and Disney nowadays seems incapable of bringing us attractions that aren't film tie-ins! I completely agree with your statement on DL and WDW. DL actually has MORE rides than all of WDW...so what's the point of going to WDW if it's mostly the same rides, but spread out so it costs much more.
Me and my husband are from Brazil and we are fortunate enought to visit Disney Parks fairly often, the only one we haven't been yet is Hong Kong's and while we agree that having different areas or rides are always a plus when we visit, only few guests ever get the chance to visit more than one location. Most americans that we met have only been to the Resort closer to their homes, so it's very common to meet someone from, let's say, Georgia who only ever been to WDW, which strikes us as odd since it's way easier for them to go to California than it is for us and yet they seldom go. Not to mention overseas parks like Paris or Tokyo. So I don't know if we can fully agree with the argument here. Except for truly Disney Parks enthusiasts I don't think most people are aware that Disney has a park in Shanghai, so for them Tron is probably a complete new ride or maybe a ride from somewhere they'll probably never go anyway. Of course the whole construction process for Tron was a mess even before the pandemic, but that has nothing to do with it being a copy of an existing ride, it would probably have been even messier if it was a complete new ride. Lastly, it's weird how you dismiss Universal parks having 4 exact same lands (Hogsmeade) in 4 different parks around the world (Orlando, California, Osaka and Beijing) with the exact same ride (Forbidden Journey) as a sidenote, like "Disney can't do that but Universal can, it's fine".
While I do agree that having duplicates can affect the parks, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing. Like for one, some people can't afford to go to places like Paris, Shanghai, Orlando, or Cali to experience these attractions. Maybe you and I can, but not the other guy. I think it's a good idea to bring some of these over so people who are closer to a certain park can experience it. Like Remy or Tron. I won't be going to Europe or Asia anytime soon so having these closer to home is great for me and who knows? Maybe if I ever go to those places, I can still experience what the original build has to offer and maybe I'll enjoy it more. Now with something like Galaxy's Edge, while it can be the same park, make it more unique for each version, Like DLR can be Black Spire with Smugglers Run and Rise while WDW can have a slightly different version of Rise and a completely new attraction to replace Sumgglers Run with its own "outpost" so it makes it feel you went to another part of the planet. Now that would've been cool. So again, I understand but at the same time it's also convenient for many people who can't make it. Of course, I wouldn't want to see Pandora brought to Disneyland, but if they do that, then make it more unique to the WDW version and not just carbon copy. But that's just me.
You have a good point. Visitors to multiple parks are a relatively small, privileged, enthusiast niche. Much has been written about the lack of affordability, so you’re not going entice multiple visits out of visitors who simply cannot afford them.
Honestly, I prefer more original experiences vs. clones. Like when I go to Universal Orlando, I literally only spend half a day on both parks because many of their attractions are available at the Hollywood park and I’m not wasting my time on rides that are available at my home park.
Yeah i agree they’re shooting themselves in the foot, i also live in socal and do less things when visiting orlando’s parks. I guess they figure they majority of their crowd goers will only experience going to one coast
I think that Disney should at least try to differentiate the carbon copies enough that they have their own identity. Maybe add different scenes or even changing the color of the light can make a huge impact.
Instead of having two separate Star Wars lands, one based on Tatooine and one on Endor or Hoth which would have driven fans to have to visit both parks to experience the whole story, we got not one but two Battushits.
I heavily disagree with not copying rides. I can understand that from the Australian point of view you have to take a airplane to another continent to get to a Disney park anyway. As a European, though, how may people do you think actually go to Disney resorts that aren't Disneyland Paris? Not a lot. DLP is doable for a family with a decent income. It quickly becomes a lot less doable for a family to go to another continent for another Disney resort. Add to that EU plans that plan to make plane tickets more expensive and discouragement of flying in general (we even have a word for it translates roughly to "flying shame"). Therefore, build a Soaring, TRON, Indiana Jones Adventure and Avengers darkride at Disneyland Paris. It has the room, it needs new rides and it definitely needs the capacity, because the #1 tourist destination in Europe isn't getting any less busy. Could they give a ride a twist? Of course! We don't need 1-on-1 copies. Space Mountain is a great example.
Personally, it doesn't bother me that Disney has copied attractions at various padks. It's not like how Six Flags has built the same Batman: The Ride inverts, or the same Joker 4-D Free Spin coasters, or other cloned attractions at so many of their parks that are within a few hours drive away from each other. Disney has a much smaller portfolio of parks scattered all around the world, and there are lots of people out there that may never be able to travel to each and every one of them for various reasons. Because of that, I think it's all right to bring a ride that has operated at one park to another so that way guests can experience it in their own backyard rather than travel halfway across the world for it. In the case of TRON, this in my opinion is one of the best rides to operate at a Disney park outside America, so I think we should be both lucky and great full to have this in the U.S. so that we don't have to go through so much hassle with traveling to China just to ride it.
Animal Kingdom has become the best park at WDW because it is the least Disney of the parks. While it does have some IP it’s not thrown into your face like the other three. (and I’m sorry to say that about Epcot now). I hope Zootopia does not happen at AK.
I’ve always said this Disney needs to go back to Walt Disney’s OG vision for the parks about creating classic but immersive attractions both tied to IP and NOT IP and if they do clone attractions which I’m ok with once in a blue moon add a couple extra scenes or add new areas to explore in queue lines! People always give me the excuse saying yeah but Disney’s running out of ideas and I say to that NO there not running out of ideas they’re just running out of cheap ones and I’ve heard that there have been a lot of really cool concepts that have been dreamt up by imagineers but CEO’s and board of directors have shut them down all in the name of saving an extra million of dollars on a certain attraction it’s all of the people on the high chair that limits the imagination it’s kinda funny how during all of this in every speech they said Walt Disney had a dream and we’re just plusing his ideas when they’re building Six Flags level attractions!
The sad thing about Galaxy’s Edge is that there are so many planets in the Star Wars Universe that each SWGE in each park could have been completely different, with hints and references to the others, which would urge the guests to visit the other parks. Anaheim - Tatooine Orlando - Dagobah Japan - Naboo Shanghai - Kashyyyk Hong Kong - Endor Paris - Mustafar, with a roller coaster through Darth Vader’s Fortress Maybe there’s a criminal warlord running loose in the galaxy…might be spotted on Dagobah (WDW) from January until March, then he escapes to up on Kashyyyk (Shanghai) from April to May.
To me this all culminates in what they're doing in Walt Disney Studios in Paris right now. That park has always been considered the worst Disney Park, so when they announced a large-scale fixing of the park by adding new themed lands, everyone was excited to see what the plans were. Turns out it was a copy of Avenger's Campus, an inferior copy of World of Frozen in Hong Kong and Tokyo DisneySea with a copy of Frozen Ever After, and an inferior copy of Galaxy's Edge with only one of the two rides. I'm baffled this is their big solution to fix the park. Sure, anything new is welcome, but if you really want to make your park something worth visiting, wouldn't you rather build something completely unique to draw people to this specific park? The Galaxy's Edge expansion has been quietly cancelled, so part of me hopes they're gonna put something bigger and more unique in its place, but I'm not confident.
With Tron Legacy being one of my favourite movies I would be devastated if it never opened in the states because I probably will never be able to afford to travel to Shanghai.
i kinda have a lot to say about this so sorry for the essay comment: In general, i agree that having lots of the same ride everywhere is bad. however, solely unique rides would not go too well, so theres some valid reasons and ways to build the same ride. one of my favorite ways this is done is twin clones, especially between america and a non-american park, like ratatouille, twilight zone tower, and (most recently) the galaxies edges and runaway railways. these are great, because a ride feels somewhat exclusive and still unique, but you can get the good experience without exclusively having to travel to (place) exclusively. this works especially well for things like galaxys edge that are just super good, because they dont get their fun and value from unique-ness among disney. if the only reason to go to paris is for ratatouille and ratatouille opening at epcot kills paris, your problem is quality and quantity of rides, not exclusivity. This is also great because it saves design costs- if you make a truly very good e ticket like rise, you can just build it twice and now two parks have amazing rides rather than one. The idea that building unique rides is always better assumes that rather than one of really anything, there would be a different but equally good ride that did the same thing. the best form of clonage is what i call "half clones," where a ride uses the same system but a different theme and story. the test tracks and towers of terror are great examples of this. say you havent been on any towers and have to pick only one park to go to ever - they are all *kind of* the same, so it isnt too hard to compare them, and they are similar enough you arent missing *too much* if you can only get on one. the dealbreaker in which you go to isnt just "which park got more investment" but "which collection of unique stories am i most interested in," and stories are what the parks are all about. and if you've been on one and liked it, you now have a clear incentive to go to a different one, because it has a new spin on a ride you know you like. theres also just some rides that are really good, and deserve to go more than two places. these are the ones that arent quite e tickets, so they're not the main factor, but they are still really good. things like the splash mountains and thunder mountains, for example.
Unrelated to the main topic, but man, I know I only went there once, but I feel like the only person who went to the Avatar section at Animal Kingdom and basically felt nothing. Maybe I didn't explore it enough or something, but I have no desire to ever wait in a long line for Flight of Passage again.
You sort of hit it that yes, folks WANT to have the same rides at parks closer to them. I know I'd love some stuff from Paris like the Indy coaster or Mystic Manor from Hong Kong in WDW or DL. Keep in mind, some folks may only visit one Disney park in their lifetimes so having the stuff they've enjoyed seeing on TV or Internet is up their alley.
As someone who has visited DLP a few times I will say that the Indy coaster probably shouldn't be the ride from there you want exported to other parks. It's kind of meh, even with the theming, and the only time it really felt remotely interesting was when they had it running with the cars facing backwards for a while.
it’s actually pretty smart since their parks are all spread out anyways. don’t fix it if it’s not broken. plus a lot of people want those super popular rides in parks close to them lol.
I strongly disagree with the concept of having unique rides in different parks. It is extremely unlikely that I will ever be able to visit any of the non-Florida parks.
I have been to Disneyland, Paris and Tokyo The less I need to travel to Florida the better. Additionally, I don’t want to travel to Shanghai either. So not everyone wants to go to every park and I don’t feel like people should be inclined to travel to another hemisphere just to do one thing.
I dont have an issue with them building the same rides in different locations, as long as theyre the best Disney has to offer, which unfortunately often isnt the case - surely recreating FoP elsewhere should be high on their list? Or maybe that answers mine and your question, in that they will keep their very best rides to one location only. As someone from the UK, getting to parks in America is very expensive, and we wont be going to WDW again for a few years at least, with Paris more affordable. So having access to those rides closer to home would be great for me, but again, we get a repurposed Rock n Rollercoaster rather than a Flight of Passage. But okay, its better than nothing so I'll take it. What does grind my gears however is them dragging their feet when they are going to build something they are just copying from elsewhere. Even with the pandemic, the time taken over Tron is shambolic, and with our 2020 trip eventually moved to November 22, we thought we'd definitely get a ride on it, but somehow they took an off the shelf solution and dragged their heels as much as possible. So in this scenario its the worst of all worlds, a copied, by many accounts average ride that took 3 times as long to build as it should have, and that i wont get to go on for years.
I think there should be cloned experiences with Different Themes. Like Re-theming Splash Mountain in Florida to Tarzan instead? Or if Ratatouille in EPCOT was instead themed to Inside Out and placed in Future World Or if Mickey & Minnie at Disneyland was themed to Donald & Goofy
i think its okay for them to be cloned, depending on the distance between each other and how similar they are. like space mountain, peter pan, pirates, btm, etc are all necessities
It's funny you bring up Tokyo Disneysea, I went about 3 months ago and live in California pretty close to Disney and have been a ton of times, quite a few as a kid. Even in Disneysea, one of the main things that saved me from having to shell out ridiculous quantities of money to skip lines were the ride clones. Tower of terror is no more in DCA, but I've been in Florida and on the previous version, soarin still exists in california, and midway mania is a direct clone. I did Indiana Jones as I was by myself (go single rider line) but that was essentially a simplified version of the disneyland ride where most of the effects were working. I went to the Turtle talk ride as well (which is surreal when you don't speak any Japanese, but I digress) and realized I'd actually been at the now closed one disney set up in a children's hospital. Even Disneysea isn't immune to the syndrome.
I rode the TRON ride at Magic Kingdom the other day and while it was really fun, it was completely underwhelming - I was able to enter the virtual queue at 1pm and wasn't able to actually get in the physical line until 6pm and didn't get on the ride until 7pm - that is a total of six hours waiting for a ride and from takeoff to the finish the ride is exactly 60 seconds long. I haven't ridden the Hagrid ride at Islands of Adventure yet but I've heard it lasts over 3 minutes - that sounds great! A measly 60 seconds is ridiculous. Anyway, it's cool that you get a free digital copy of your photo afterward so at least that's something.
I am not 100% against recycling rides per say, I do wish they customized them some per park however. Like why is MRR in DHS and DLR both the same, they couldn't have had a unique scene each? Like the Twister scene in DHS is a nod to Great Movie Ride, it makes no sense in Toon Town. Why not a new scene with Roger Rabbit as a cameo as a nod to his ride next door or something like that? Also while I think Tron is ultimately a good add to MK as Tomorrow-land needed ANYTHING new, they really have now hamstrung themselves in whatever redesign of Torrorow-land is coming... well hopefully coming (please... ) I do definitely think each park needs unique draws. Like copying Pandora from DAK to DCA or something would be a horrible idea, as you pointed out Pandora is the main draw of DAK. If they made a new Pandora based on the new movie at the level of DAK's Pandora now we are talking. The unique rides of the parks (Indy Jones, Radiator Springs, Flight of Passage, Spaceship Earth, etc) are the rides that bring people to those parks.
Thought the same thing when DCA got Little Mermaid, Soarin, ToT, Muppet Vision, Tough to be a Bug…why would I take an extra trip when I’ve been on all that in WDW?
No More Carbon Copy Rides!! Would be something else if Disney actually was against duplicating rides…each Park would of be Unique to its own. And guests would have a better appreciation to try to visit each park.
Well to me the points you made is what going to both makes it good so you can see the differences of the two rides that are the same like Disneyland’s pirates is longer and their hunted mansion has that holiday overlay which magic kingdoms hunted mansion doesn’t have. Just because the rides are the same doesn’t mean they won’t have slight differences between the other versions.
Your last point is why I'm planning to take my daughter to Disneyland before Disney World. My trips to Cedar Point and Universal Orlando have reminded me of the importance of walkability.
I love your videos and I’m a extremely huge fan of this channel however I have to respectfully disagree with your video. What if we can’t go to Japan or Paris to ride the ride. I feel like it’s necessary that they should open the same attraction in a different theme park for those of us who can’t afford a trip to Japan and are stuck in the USA. Maybe not they same ride type like a dumbo in mk and a similar attraction at ak but still.
It drives me nuts that the two Star Wars lands are the SAME. There are so many planets in Star Wars. Both parks are in rather different climates. Florida's should have had more plants, and creatures. Features t hat worked more in rain. California, focusing more on dry weather. If they really do go all-in with Avatar stuff at Disneyland, I really hope that, since the WDW one seems mostly based on the first film, the Disneyland one ends up based more on one of the upcoming films. (Based more on Water, what other themes of the films are going to be the focus)
Some rides are worth cloning if they are iconic (Pirates, etc) but in other cases they are not. I always thought that Tron was an unnecessary addition for MK since Space Mountain is already there and that money and effort could have been allocated for other parks that need the growth more. This is why I'm not too thrilled about the bluesky Encanto/Coco/Villains addition for MK. Those aren't really necessary at MK either.
I agree that the cloning is not awesome. At first I thought you were going to mention how many versions of the dumbo spinner ride they have, just with different skins (Dumbo, Magic Carpets, the spinner rockets, the spinning triceratops in AK, etc). Most of the things they duplicated in Florida from California are not as good…they realized getting people through the cue was the name of the game so they are noticeable shorter and less satisfying.
It is crazy to think, that Tron had longer construction time than F.L.Y at Phantasialand. F.L.Y is a prototype model built inside a highly themed land and a hotel which is intertwined with the coaster. It is on a bigger scale, more thrilling and better themed than Tron and Phantasialand is miniscule compared to Disney.
100% agree on this. Everyone wants Pandora or Tron to come to Anaheim. No, just no. I love that Disneyland and DCA have things other parks don't. That's why as a Disneyland Magic key holder, I want to go to WDW so I can see things we don't have, not just versions of what we already have. I wasn't super excited about MMRR coming to Disneyland. It's a fun edition to Toontown but I would've preferred something new or at the very least a very different version of the ride. Trackless rides should offer that option but they don't. I'm going to WDW soon and I know we won't go to Galaxy's Edge and probably won't spend a lot of time in Magic Kingdom.
Disney haven’t update status of marvel e-ticketing ride in Hong Kong a while since the construction site is still empty. Beside they doesn’t announce that now the multiverse of DCA version is coming to Hong Kong too. I doubt marvel e-ticketing ride in Hong Kong is still on plan.
After going to Tokyo Disney Sea and then Hong Kong Disneyland, and seeing how unique the lands and experiences are (all of Disney Sea and Mystic Point at HK), I could not agree more with this. The more unique rides at each park, the more of an identity each park has and therefore it's own appeal to guests around the world. Sadly whenever there's a post about a ride or land in the international parks on the Disney Parks social media, a huge amount of the comments are "We need this in the US parks!!!". As much as I'd love all unique additions to each park round the world, I think the best compromise is to keep the ride system the same and re-theme the actual ride, similar to the rumours about the Lion King Splash Mountain for Paris. If you look at Tower of Terror and Soaring Fantastic Flight in Tokyo Disney Sea or Phantom Manor in Disneyland Paris, the rides still feel different and have their own identity. Cloning exact rides limits your desire to go to another park, which is extra weird when they do it in California and Florida. Galaxy's Edge and Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway being carbon copies in the same country is asbolutely wild to me.
I tried to dig a hole to the other side of the earth when I was a kid and got about a foot deep...so I don't think I'm going to China anytime soon. So I don't mind if they have the same attractions at parks on different continents, especially something that looks as badass as Tron. But yeah I agree that Disneyland and magic kingdom being like the same is a little ridiculous
I can understand cloning a ride that’s further away, such as Tron. But cloning rides between Orlando and Anaheim feels redundant as it’s much easier to travel to those parks living in North America. Similar story for cloning rides that exist in Japan, Hong Kong and Shanghai.
With what you mentioned about most of the Chapek era rides being cloned at other parks, it's kinda a miracle that Walt Disney World got a unique Guardians of the Galaxy ride, instead of retheming their Tower of Terror to be a Mission Breakout clone. Of course I'm glad that Walt Disney World's Tower of Terror remains unchanged, as it is the original version and so iconic. Not to mention, Mission Breakout wouldn't really work with the Sunset Boulevard theming without expanding it into their own Avengers Campus, which won't happen so long as Universal clings to those East Coast Marvel rights.
I think having the same good attractions is good. Most people can’t afford to go to Disney every year or couple of years, much less visit two different Disney parks in totally different parts of the world! So by having the best rides and worlds available in each park, Disney can attract those guests much more; if there are just a few good rides at a Disney park, I would doubt if I should go there given how much it costs, I could careless if they are unique rides because I’ll probable never even go to the other parks. And by having just a couple of differences between parks, Disney also attracts Disney fanatics wanting to experience everything Disney even if the cost is much higher for relatively few differences/experiences.
Like the vast majority of us, I'm never going to go to the parks in Shanghai, Hong Kong, Japan or Paris. Heck, I haven't been to Disneyland yet! So if they have great attractions that Disney can bring to Walt Disney World I say bring them over! I'm glad Tron is being added to Magic Kingdom. I don't care if Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland and WDW are identical. Uniqueness is interesting and fun, and there are plenty of unique things in all the parks. That said, I'm more interested in seeing and experiencing great attractions in a park I can and do visit, not dreaming about experiencing them knowing I will never get the chance.
One subcategory you could have included is when they repurpose the ride system but with totally different theming. I didn't initially realize that Test Track at WDW is pretty much the Cars ride at California Adventure. And now one Tower of Terror is the Twilight Zone and the other is Guardians of the Galaxy.
What are you talking about. Harry Potter land is in Orlando, California and Tokyo. Nintendo Land is also in Orlando, California and Tokyo. Same land and rides.😂
I can't imagine more than 1 or 2% of people would ever visit more than 1 Disney Park. Whilst it would be exciting to go to these other parks to see their unique attractions, for the average person it would be an incredible waste of money. Personally I think Disney put Tron in the wrong WDW park; it should have been in the future world section of Epcot, expanded to include another ride and a walk thru area similar to Galaxy's Edge. To have a drink the lounge in Tron Legacy, to see the ships flying overhead, to try out the other games in the grid (disc wars) would be as big to me as visiting a planet from Star Wars.
I went to Disney in December and was blown away with how many of the more recent rides were pretty much clones of one another it was uninspired and lazy
Whilst many points on Disney made sense, I think one needs to expand on why Universal gets the hall pass with Wizarding World (and soon Nintendo land). In fact, aren't most Universal having "Wizarding World", "Minions", "Jurassic" and now "Nintendo"? There was a 1-2 line in this video about Universal, but it really doesn't explain why they don't get the same critic as Disney on the same topic. Are both equally guilty, or is the title right and being critical of Disney only?
There are some Disney attractions that are considered anchors and staples of the parks that are fine cloning such as Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Peter Pan, the railroad, the steamboat, Tom Sawyer Island, etc. But otherwise yes, cloning attractions is wrong. Having unique attractions gives each park a unique identity and people simply need to learn to respect those identities. I don't want to see the exact same thing in every Disney park. If someone can't afford to travel to the different parks to see the different attractions that only exist there, then let them be consumed by jealousy.
Americans are discouraged from traveling to China and will likely be barred from doing so in the next few years. It makes sense to build copies of those attractions here for that reason. Disney also knows the price of airfare and travel cuts into the amount people are willing to spend at the parks when they arrive, so it makes sense to build the rides closer to everyone's home park where they will not be impeded from maximizing spend within that resort.
But as a Floridian, you also have the Hagrid’s Motorbike Adventure. Which is a superior roller coaster to the Tron Lightcycle, partially due to have a much longer track.
As a West Coast person, I have very little desire to go to Disney Hollywood studio when most of its attractions are at Disneyland resort. And it's only exclusive unique attractions are Muppets vision 3D and twilight zone tower of terror
I get what you're saying. Financially, I am not someone who can make it to Shanghai to ride attractions like Tron, so bringing it closer to home is something I appreciate.
Most companies that clone rides usually do it to save a buck and saves time on construction, Disney does nothing but waste time and balloon budgets
And fire CEOs who are enjoying Elton John concerts.
Universal did the same thing for a while. Replaced old rides with basically a refit from a more recent IP. However, they seemed to listen to guest feedback and now seem intent on offering new experiences which is great to see. Disney on the other hand don’t seem to be doing quite as well in that regard.
with disney running on a fixed amount of space. I think every unique attraction is a reason to go to another park ... that's more money.. I have no intrest in disneyland bc disneyworld is just a buffed up version.
As someone living in Central Europe I‘m extremely torn concerning this topic. On one hand I absolutely agree with everything that you said in the video. On the other hand it would be amazing to have something like Flight of Passage or Radiator Springs Racers in Paris.
So maybe there‘s a middleground where Disney could use similar IPs and ride systems whilst still keeping a certain difference between every version. They did it once when they translated Haunted Mansion, Space Mountain and so on to the european market and created something different enough so that people from around would still want to visit this exact park. Let‘s hope Disney will come back to this strategy someday.
I need the cars rides in Paris
It’s also the case of knowing you may never travel to those further away parks and so having similar rides you know are brilliant would be a great idea to add to your nearest park. What you said about having the same ride but changing the story and theming would be a good idea. It’s not difficult to do and a simple way of updating a ride somewhere else. Let’s see what they do with the new Frozen land and the ride they are installing these. It’s supposed to be the same as the ones in the American parks 😅
At least we won‘t get the animatronics with the projected faces (I hope!) but instead something more similar to the Hong Kong version so that’s a win I guess
Yeah but wouldn't we love to see anything at all come to Paris? I mean, the last expansion to the castle park was Buzz Lightyear of all things. Literally, anything would be fantastic haha
@@robinhorst706 I would not complain about anything new coming to DLP, it’s much needed however, when Ratatouille opened, it was the first of its kind and the only Ratatouille ride in any of the parks, it was nice to have that, but now Epcot has it. It just seems like a lack of imagination in Disneys part. Apparently, there’s a rumour circulating that they are going to turn the Tron ride into a Star Wars Speeder ride and place it in Discoveryland, behind Space Mountain, now that I like as even though it’s the same baseline ride, the concept is different
HongKong and Paris Disney need more E-ticket attractions.
Coming from Europe, Eurodisney is more or less my home park. Comparing this park to other Disney parks gives the impression that Europe is being fobbed off with below average attractions. The park doesn't really have a standout attraction. And if there's anything new somewhere else, Eurodisney gets a very bad copy. For example, Florida gets the Avengers and in Europe the entire Rock'n Rollercoaster is simply and lovelessly re-themed to Avengers. Disney thinks that must be enough for Europe. I wish there was at least an equivalent copy in Eurodisney. That would be a significant increase in quality. I don't even dare to dream of a really outstanding and unique attraction.
I don't know how Disney plans to compete with other amazing parks in Europe like Efteling, Europapark, Phantasialand or even Parc Asterix... These are opening new rides constantly and keep their reasonable prices and guest policies, while Disney is getting more unaffordable every year and tries to make the guest experience worse. And let's not even talk about the completely underbuilt studios park. Disney just does not have enough rides to justify the prices. They need a lot more and better rides so that people don't feel dissatisfied that they just waited in lines for half a day riding 7 rides. Ride capacity remains the number 1 issue of both parks
with how aggressively Disney has been pricing out all but the richest guests, they might not actually expect anyone to visit more than one Disney park in their lives
The Asian Disney parks are significantly more affordable than the US Disney Parks. It's only the American parks that are pricing people out
I think a lot of Disney people look at this "problem" from a very, very first world perspective. For most, a trip to any Disney park is a once in a lifetime or maybe once a decade experience.
I've met only one other family who's been to all 12 parks and I would not be surprised at all if _every_ American who's ever ridden TRON Lightcycle Power Run (Shanghai) could ride TRON Lightcycle Run (WDW) in less than a day.
Cloning Galaxy's Edge made sense at the time, but since Disney ran Star Wars into the ground, one is more than enough.
There is huge value in having DL and DCA a short walk from each other - and it's one of main reasons we don't go to Disney World... unless there is a huge disparity in attractions between sites, no is no justification to go somewhere further away, and thus more expensive.
But they have a ton of variety and cheaper hotel options
exactly. you have no reason or motive to go to WDW
@@Peajay007 right! Disney could be making so much more money if the domestic parks had different rides. It’s forces guests like OP to go to both
disneyland is the walmart version of world lol
I have always said that Disney completely blew it with Galaxies Edge. I am a huge Star Wars fan even becoming a member 20 years ago of the 501st. What they should have done is build 2 different lands. Build an interactive place unique to California and a different unique planet unique to Florida. They could continue this in all of their parks around the world. Giving me desire to travel to each one to get the full experience.
Having a different planet for each park sounds like an amazing idea
Wow , I was just thinking if they were to make wdw changed to the original Star Wars time-line would be cool. But What You Thought of Is Incredible! That is the most perfect thing for WD to do. The $$$$ They would have coming from All the SW fans. They need to hire You.. Really. Cause they completely wasted their opportunity with STAR WARS the same thing in both parks.
@@eddybig2781 The "major" issue with that was that they were planning on Rise of Skywalker being amazing, so Star Wars fans would just *have* to see the 'missing chapter' of the story...which you could only do by visiting Galaxy's Edge and paying for the dinner show (which became the Galactic Starcruiser.) Because of that assumption, they seemed to feel they needed *four Galaxy's Edges* to ultimately handle all of the capacity required. (Plans existed at one point for full versions in Paris and Shanghai)
Of course, Rise of Skywalker was both self-contained and pissed off enough of the fanbase with discretionary income that the need for that never materialized, and the 'Missing movie' part of the narrative was toned down to the point where, while GE is still popular, it's not...uh...required viewing. And the Starcruiser, amazing as it is, doesn't have broad appeal.
I have the same thought. Not to make the attractions themselves different but to come up with the same but different planet themes. Takes more time and writers to come up with the ideas but even if they are near 100% clones with a different coat of paint and costumes that would be cool. Still the chance to do that going forward though. But ultimately in the end I stood before the Millennium Falcon and it was the most moving moment of my entire Star Wars life.
It being in two places through is fair to people who don't go the other one through
You hit it right on the spot. I’m going to WDW in June, my family and I are going to three of the parks and chose to skip Hollywood studios cuz the only two rides they don’t have at Disneyland (were magic key holders) is slinky and rock n roller coaster. Since Mickey and Minnie’s opened there’s no huge reason for us to attend that park.I’m addition, if Tron wasn’t opening we wouldn’t have went to magic kingdom either but thankfully it is when we visit. Instead we’re going to universals two parks over Hollywood studios.
Agree on Disney Hollywood Studios. It has become my least desire to attend park because their big E tickets are also available at the Disneyland resort. The only thing DHS has for me as Muppetvision 3D and Tower of Terror(The only tower with the 5th dimension).
In June? As a local fan of WDW I need to give you the heads up that lines are insanely long, it will be hot as blazes, and it rains a whole lot. Have fun.
You're not missing much. It has some appeal and the restaurant theming is some of the best in the parks but that is about it. The Disneyland version of Fantasmic blows the WDW version away BTW. Being on the Rivers of America and that close to the action is so much better than being a stadium style show.
Tower of Terror isn't in California either. The one in DCA has always been a completely different ride than the Orlando version. Also Fantasmic! is not the same.
Rock n roller coaster is also under refurbishments rn until summer
The one thing about cloning rides is accessibility. Not everyone can afford to fly wherever to ride the originals. For me, I'm probably the biggest TRON Fan in the PNW however flying to Florida to actually get to experience my favorite sci fi franchise ever is a lot. Vs in California, I can afford to visit the Temple of the Forbidden Eye without worrying too much financially. Personally i'm begging for a TRON ride or experience on this coast for that reason. As a major fan of the IP, what good is it if i can't ever actually see the ride itself?
I always thought Disney made a mistake with Galaxy’s Edge. They could have changed the theming, create some custom characters and have a whole new planet with a different story to tell. With a different Star Wars planet and story at each Disney location there are enough Star Wars fans on this planet who would make an effort to visit all of them.
Imagine thinking Galaxy’s Edge is the most immersive theme park land in the world when The Wizarding World exists. Bonkers.
As a person living in Asia and only flies within it, having copies of a ride (maybe nighttime spectaculars) from the American parks is a welcome addition to any of the parks here. I always wanted a Tower of Terror in HKDL since it's the nearest Disneyland for me, but we don't have it unfortunately. It doesn't have to be an exact replica like other's said. It can be a different version with a similar experience, just like how we have Big Grizzly Mountain than Big Thunder Mountain. The only reason why I'd fly to Florida is to actually visit the US for the first time and to watch Happily Ever After since that show ain't just gonna be in Tokyo Disneyland unlike how Once Upon a Time from Tokyo was adapted to the Magic Kingdom.
I honestly see no issue of reusing the same rides and attractions at different parks. The people who go to any of the resorts tend to only go to that one specific resort because of distance. Two thirds of Disney World's attendance comes from the Deep South, an even larger proportion of guests at Disneyland Park are from the West Cost or South West states and similarly for Tokyo Disneyland from Japan. The simple fact of the matter is the type of people like us who are willing to go to different continents just for these parks make up an exceptionally small part of the market, frankly a slice that's not even worthy of note.
Most guests are only going to ever visit one of the Disney resorts, so I don’t think cloning popular attractions is a bad thing at all. Like you mention Mystic Manor, but the majority of people visiting Hong Kong Disney are from Hong Kong (74% in 2018), and if they really wanted Cosmic Rewind, for example, to come to Hong Kong (and very few will ever travel to visit Epcot), why not give them what they want?
I think the main issue is what you said; since most guests only choose one park, the resort whose unique attractions have been cloned to other resorts loses its ability to stand out from the other Disney Parks. Which at the end, is more unlikely to be "selected" by guests as their first choice.
For example, if Mystic Manor gets cloned to WDW in Orlando, why should guests check out the Hong Kong Disney Resort?
The best thing to do as a theme park is to be able to make guests come back but without anything different or unique to be recognized from, there is no reason from guest to do so.
Disney : “let’s build the same ride, it will be quick and cheap”
Also Disney : “so uhhh”
I think this was written from a place of privilege. It would be a dream come true for me someone local to Los Angeles to be able to visit the different parks around the world. But I dont have the means and never even been to Florida. I love that Disneyland got Galaxy’s Edge and Micky & Minnie. I hope that if Disneyland Forward comes to fruition that we get Tron as a part of the DCA expansion. That said there are still plenty of unique attractions at the other parks that make me want to visit them (if I can ever afford it).
and i dont have the means to fly to california or florida. but being australian i have to option of japan. 8K for tokyo disney or 15k for WDW and 10k for Ca.........
Flying was very affordable prepandemic if you were flexible and willing to shop. Now it is noticeably higher, especially if you need to buy tickets for a while family. I am a little shocked as well as to how much Disney has raised their prices. A Disney trip is expensive. There is no way around that.
Why should it be written from a place of non-priveledge? The Disney parks in general are a privilege. It makes total sense to have different attractions at each of the parks for people to aspire to visit...and if you never can, it's no big deal because you'll still have great rides that are exclusive to your park...
One efficient approach for Disney to create unique experiences at different parks while saving on development costs is by re-skinning existing attractions. For example, Mission Breakout was created by re-skinning Tower of Terror, and Radiator Springs Racers was adapted from Test Track. A potential update to Journey into Imagination could involve re-skinning Mystic Manor, with Figment taking the place of the monkey and Dreamfinder replacing Henry Mystic.
Additionally, Disney could have designed two distinct versions of Galaxy's Edge, each based on different planets and storylines. For instance, Disney World could feature Batuu, focusing on the narrative of the new trilogy, while Disneyland could showcase Tatooine and the tale of the original trilogy. Both parks could still have Smugglers Run, but the Disneyland version would highlight Han Solo or Lando. Instead of Rise of the Resistance, Disneyland could present Rise of the Rebellion. By creating unique Galaxy's Edge iterations around the world, Disney would encourage visitors to explore different parks and experience all of them.
Yep, instead i live by disneyland and therefore will never need to visit Hollywood Studios in Orlando. That’s one less park ticket purchased. Not very smart thinking, Disney.
Can't wait to see this same video about Universal rebuilding the same lands everywhere!
Well he touched on it in this video so I don't think he will because itll be this video but universal.
I very much agree with this. It's just more interesting to have unique rides for each park, and when I go to disneyland later this year, I'll be riding a lot of the same rides I did previously. The solution for this might be to retheme rides and change some aspect of lands in each park. Like, indiana jones adventure and dinosaur look like very different rides. And for something like galaxy's edge, making just one of the rides something original and altering the theming would separate it enough from each other
This is the compromise. Clone the ride system but create a new experience in the process.
I’ve heard you (in previous videos) talk about how Disney wants fewer ‘fans’ and more ‘once in a lifetime’ guests at their park because the latter is more valuable (they spend more money), I see the carbon-copy strategy as an extension of this. If a person can only afford to visit the park closest to them, once in their lifetime, they want to feel like their getting the full experience, so it makes sense that all parks look the same.
That's still a bad thing. When I take over Disney I will be catering to the fans and purists. I don't want "once in a lifetime guests" unless they are willing to become purists. I will drain the swamp.
Totally agree with you guys! I'm kinda happy that at least all the Towers of Terror are (kinda) unique now with Paris separating itself from Orlando with the updated ride experiences
To begin with, the other towers lacked the 5th dimension scene from WDW that made the ride unique.
@@Emplordxiii true. But at least for me, that made Paris (and DCA which I personally only know as Guardians) like a downgrade. Not necessarily a different version.
A good example of a big company trying to make something new is Universal with Jurassic World Adventure, they could have just copied Jurassic World The Ride, but instead they made the best dinosaur ride in the world.
ReviewTyme is one of the only channels I actually watch with full attention instead of playing in the background. Keep up the great work!
I agree, I had to stop and watch this video. So well done.
I’ve always seen copied attractions as a win-win, at least in theory. For the guest, it’s a chance to ride something that they likely never would’ve been able to ride otherwise. For the company, it’s more cost and time efficient than building a new ride (again, at least in theory). With TRON coming to WDW, it give me (as someone who does not and will not have the means to travel to Shanghai for the foreseeable future) the chance to actually experience it. I imagine that’s true for millions of people who find it more economically feasible to travel to Florida than to travel to Shanghai. With that said, I don’t want every ride at every park to be shared, I think having a handful of exclusives at each is a good thing. But I also appreciate being able to experience the best of what Disney has without having to travel to another country.
In 1971 they didn't quite foresee that WDW would be driven by global tourism more than locals like DL.
I agree that there is too much cloning, and it really got worse under Iger with Toy Story Land (especially since that lands so cheap). Eisner for the most part built entirely original attractions for parks like MGM Studios and Animal Kingdom. Atleast when Eisner did clone rides, he usually had details change (like with DLP versions, or Indy & Dino). With Iger they are not only exact copies, but they are lazier from the start since its all IP based lands. Iger and Disney nowadays seems incapable of bringing us attractions that aren't film tie-ins!
I completely agree with your statement on DL and WDW. DL actually has MORE rides than all of WDW...so what's the point of going to WDW if it's mostly the same rides, but spread out so it costs much more.
That does it. Next time I'm just going to Peppa Pig World.
Me and my husband are from Brazil and we are fortunate enought to visit Disney Parks fairly often, the only one we haven't been yet is Hong Kong's and while we agree that having different areas or rides are always a plus when we visit, only few guests ever get the chance to visit more than one location. Most americans that we met have only been to the Resort closer to their homes, so it's very common to meet someone from, let's say, Georgia who only ever been to WDW, which strikes us as odd since it's way easier for them to go to California than it is for us and yet they seldom go. Not to mention overseas parks like Paris or Tokyo.
So I don't know if we can fully agree with the argument here. Except for truly Disney Parks enthusiasts I don't think most people are aware that Disney has a park in Shanghai, so for them Tron is probably a complete new ride or maybe a ride from somewhere they'll probably never go anyway. Of course the whole construction process for Tron was a mess even before the pandemic, but that has nothing to do with it being a copy of an existing ride, it would probably have been even messier if it was a complete new ride.
Lastly, it's weird how you dismiss Universal parks having 4 exact same lands (Hogsmeade) in 4 different parks around the world (Orlando, California, Osaka and Beijing) with the exact same ride (Forbidden Journey) as a sidenote, like "Disney can't do that but Universal can, it's fine".
Yeah, obviously universal is biased in his, and many other people's channels
While I do agree that having duplicates can affect the parks, I don't think it's necessarily a bad thing.
Like for one, some people can't afford to go to places like Paris, Shanghai, Orlando, or Cali to experience these attractions. Maybe you and I can, but not the other guy. I think it's a good idea to bring some of these over so people who are closer to a certain park can experience it. Like Remy or Tron. I won't be going to Europe or Asia anytime soon so having these closer to home is great for me and who knows? Maybe if I ever go to those places, I can still experience what the original build has to offer and maybe I'll enjoy it more.
Now with something like Galaxy's Edge, while it can be the same park, make it more unique for each version, Like DLR can be Black Spire with Smugglers Run and Rise while WDW can have a slightly different version of Rise and a completely new attraction to replace Sumgglers Run with its own "outpost" so it makes it feel you went to another part of the planet. Now that would've been cool.
So again, I understand but at the same time it's also convenient for many people who can't make it. Of course, I wouldn't want to see Pandora brought to Disneyland, but if they do that, then make it more unique to the WDW version and not just carbon copy. But that's just me.
it is a bad thing. imagine another different tron coaster instead, it would add variety and make people want to visit multiple parks
You have a good point. Visitors to multiple parks are a relatively small, privileged, enthusiast niche. Much has been written about the lack of affordability, so you’re not going entice multiple visits out of visitors who simply cannot afford them.
@dark whale but again you gotta have that question of what if they can't? Not everyone can go to Shanghai or Tokyo
Honestly, I prefer more original experiences vs. clones. Like when I go to Universal Orlando, I literally only spend half a day on both parks because many of their attractions are available at the Hollywood park and I’m not wasting my time on rides that are available at my home park.
Yeah i agree they’re shooting themselves in the foot, i also live in socal and do less things when visiting orlando’s parks. I guess they figure they majority of their crowd goers will only experience going to one coast
I don’t have an issue with them building the same rides at different parks. I’m glad people can visit different parks and go on the same rides.❤
If Six Flags would start building more Batman clones, that'd be great.
I think that Disney should at least try to differentiate the carbon copies enough that they have their own identity. Maybe add different scenes or even changing the color of the light can make a huge impact.
Instead of having two separate Star Wars lands, one based on Tatooine and one on Endor or Hoth which would have driven fans to have to visit both parks to experience the whole story, we got not one but two Battushits.
I heavily disagree with not copying rides. I can understand that from the Australian point of view you have to take a airplane to another continent to get to a Disney park anyway. As a European, though, how may people do you think actually go to Disney resorts that aren't Disneyland Paris? Not a lot. DLP is doable for a family with a decent income. It quickly becomes a lot less doable for a family to go to another continent for another Disney resort. Add to that EU plans that plan to make plane tickets more expensive and discouragement of flying in general (we even have a word for it translates roughly to "flying shame").
Therefore, build a Soaring, TRON, Indiana Jones Adventure and Avengers darkride at Disneyland Paris. It has the room, it needs new rides and it definitely needs the capacity, because the #1 tourist destination in Europe isn't getting any less busy. Could they give a ride a twist? Of course! We don't need 1-on-1 copies. Space Mountain is a great example.
Personally, it doesn't bother me that Disney has copied attractions at various padks. It's not like how Six Flags has built the same Batman: The Ride inverts, or the same Joker 4-D Free Spin coasters, or other cloned attractions at so many of their parks that are within a few hours drive away from each other. Disney has a much smaller portfolio of parks scattered all around the world, and there are lots of people out there that may never be able to travel to each and every one of them for various reasons. Because of that, I think it's all right to bring a ride that has operated at one park to another so that way guests can experience it in their own backyard rather than travel halfway across the world for it. In the case of TRON, this in my opinion is one of the best rides to operate at a Disney park outside America, so I think we should be both lucky and great full to have this in the U.S. so that we don't have to go through so much hassle with traveling to China just to ride it.
Animal Kingdom has become the best park at WDW because it is the least Disney of the parks. While it does have some IP it’s not thrown into your face like the other three. (and I’m sorry to say that about Epcot now). I hope Zootopia does not happen at AK.
I’ve always said this Disney needs to go back to Walt Disney’s OG vision for the parks about creating classic but immersive attractions both tied to IP and NOT IP and if they do clone attractions which I’m ok with once in a blue moon add a couple extra scenes or add new areas to explore in queue lines! People always give me the excuse saying yeah but Disney’s running out of ideas and I say to that NO there not running out of ideas they’re just running out of cheap ones and I’ve heard that there have been a lot of really cool concepts that have been dreamt up by imagineers but CEO’s and board of directors have shut them down all in the name of saving an extra million of dollars on a certain attraction it’s all of the people on the high chair that limits the imagination it’s kinda funny how during all of this in every speech they said Walt Disney had a dream and we’re just plusing his ideas when they’re building Six Flags level attractions!
it breaks my heart that The Great Movie Ride is gone forever 😔
It will be back.
The sad thing about Galaxy’s Edge is that there are so many planets in the Star Wars Universe that each SWGE in each park could have been completely different, with hints and references to the others, which would urge the guests to visit the other parks.
Anaheim - Tatooine
Orlando - Dagobah
Japan - Naboo
Shanghai - Kashyyyk
Hong Kong - Endor
Paris - Mustafar, with a roller coaster through Darth Vader’s Fortress
Maybe there’s a criminal warlord running loose in the galaxy…might be spotted on Dagobah (WDW) from January until March, then he escapes to up on Kashyyyk (Shanghai) from April to May.
To me this all culminates in what they're doing in Walt Disney Studios in Paris right now. That park has always been considered the worst Disney Park, so when they announced a large-scale fixing of the park by adding new themed lands, everyone was excited to see what the plans were. Turns out it was a copy of Avenger's Campus, an inferior copy of World of Frozen in Hong Kong and Tokyo DisneySea with a copy of Frozen Ever After, and an inferior copy of Galaxy's Edge with only one of the two rides. I'm baffled this is their big solution to fix the park. Sure, anything new is welcome, but if you really want to make your park something worth visiting, wouldn't you rather build something completely unique to draw people to this specific park? The Galaxy's Edge expansion has been quietly cancelled, so part of me hopes they're gonna put something bigger and more unique in its place, but I'm not confident.
With Tron Legacy being one of my favourite movies I would be devastated if it never opened in the states because I probably will never be able to afford to travel to Shanghai.
i kinda have a lot to say about this so sorry for the essay comment:
In general, i agree that having lots of the same ride everywhere is bad. however, solely unique rides would not go too well, so theres some valid reasons and ways to build the same ride.
one of my favorite ways this is done is twin clones, especially between america and a non-american park, like ratatouille, twilight zone tower, and (most recently) the galaxies edges and runaway railways. these are great, because a ride feels somewhat exclusive and still unique, but you can get the good experience without exclusively having to travel to (place) exclusively. this works especially well for things like galaxys edge that are just super good, because they dont get their fun and value from unique-ness among disney. if the only reason to go to paris is for ratatouille and ratatouille opening at epcot kills paris, your problem is quality and quantity of rides, not exclusivity. This is also great because it saves design costs- if you make a truly very good e ticket like rise, you can just build it twice and now two parks have amazing rides rather than one. The idea that building unique rides is always better assumes that rather than one of really anything, there would be a different but equally good ride that did the same thing.
the best form of clonage is what i call "half clones," where a ride uses the same system but a different theme and story. the test tracks and towers of terror are great examples of this. say you havent been on any towers and have to pick only one park to go to ever - they are all *kind of* the same, so it isnt too hard to compare them, and they are similar enough you arent missing *too much* if you can only get on one. the dealbreaker in which you go to isnt just "which park got more investment" but "which collection of unique stories am i most interested in," and stories are what the parks are all about. and if you've been on one and liked it, you now have a clear incentive to go to a different one, because it has a new spin on a ride you know you like.
theres also just some rides that are really good, and deserve to go more than two places. these are the ones that arent quite e tickets, so they're not the main factor, but they are still really good. things like the splash mountains and thunder mountains, for example.
Unrelated to the main topic, but man, I know I only went there once, but I feel like the only person who went to the Avatar section at Animal Kingdom and basically felt nothing. Maybe I didn't explore it enough or something, but I have no desire to ever wait in a long line for Flight of Passage again.
You sort of hit it that yes, folks WANT to have the same rides at parks closer to them. I know I'd love some stuff from Paris like the Indy coaster or Mystic Manor from Hong Kong in WDW or DL. Keep in mind, some folks may only visit one Disney park in their lifetimes so having the stuff they've enjoyed seeing on TV or Internet is up their alley.
As someone who has visited DLP a few times I will say that the Indy coaster probably shouldn't be the ride from there you want exported to other parks. It's kind of meh, even with the theming, and the only time it really felt remotely interesting was when they had it running with the cars facing backwards for a while.
It’s Disney park guests and fans themselves that demand these clones! Disney is just doing what most want.
Well said and the same thing goes to Universal Studios too. Honestly, let each park have different attractions for people to enjoy.
it’s actually pretty smart since their parks are all spread out anyways. don’t fix it if it’s not broken. plus a lot of people want those super popular rides in parks close to them lol.
Seriously less than 1 percent of people will get to both parks ..there is nothing wrong with that
@@shawnokeefe1580 honestly like how many people are going to both orlando and shanghai to ride tron lol.
I strongly disagree with the concept of having unique rides in different parks. It is extremely unlikely that I will ever be able to visit any of the non-Florida parks.
I have been to Disneyland, Paris and Tokyo
The less I need to travel to Florida the better. Additionally, I don’t want to travel to Shanghai either. So not everyone wants to go to every park and I don’t feel like people should be inclined to travel to another hemisphere just to do one thing.
I dont have an issue with them building the same rides in different locations, as long as theyre the best Disney has to offer, which unfortunately often isnt the case - surely recreating FoP elsewhere should be high on their list? Or maybe that answers mine and your question, in that they will keep their very best rides to one location only.
As someone from the UK, getting to parks in America is very expensive, and we wont be going to WDW again for a few years at least, with Paris more affordable. So having access to those rides closer to home would be great for me, but again, we get a repurposed Rock n Rollercoaster rather than a Flight of Passage. But okay, its better than nothing so I'll take it.
What does grind my gears however is them dragging their feet when they are going to build something they are just copying from elsewhere. Even with the pandemic, the time taken over Tron is shambolic, and with our 2020 trip eventually moved to November 22, we thought we'd definitely get a ride on it, but somehow they took an off the shelf solution and dragged their heels as much as possible. So in this scenario its the worst of all worlds, a copied, by many accounts average ride that took 3 times as long to build as it should have, and that i wont get to go on for years.
I couldn't agree more. Universal is kicking their ass!
I think there should be cloned experiences with Different Themes.
Like Re-theming Splash Mountain in Florida to Tarzan instead?
Or if Ratatouille in EPCOT was instead themed to Inside Out and placed in Future World
Or if Mickey & Minnie at Disneyland was themed to Donald & Goofy
i think its okay for them to be cloned, depending on the distance between each other and how similar they are. like space mountain, peter pan, pirates, btm, etc are all necessities
It's funny you bring up Tokyo Disneysea, I went about 3 months ago and live in California pretty close to Disney and have been a ton of times, quite a few as a kid.
Even in Disneysea, one of the main things that saved me from having to shell out ridiculous quantities of money to skip lines were the ride clones. Tower of terror is no more in DCA, but I've been in Florida and on the previous version, soarin still exists in california, and midway mania is a direct clone. I did Indiana Jones as I was by myself (go single rider line) but that was essentially a simplified version of the disneyland ride where most of the effects were working. I went to the Turtle talk ride as well (which is surreal when you don't speak any Japanese, but I digress) and realized I'd actually been at the now closed one disney set up in a children's hospital. Even Disneysea isn't immune to the syndrome.
Screamed YES!!! @the headline alone.
This is why Mystic Manor is my favorite Disney ride.
I rode the TRON ride at Magic Kingdom the other day and while it was really fun, it was completely underwhelming - I was able to enter the virtual queue at 1pm and wasn't able to actually get in the physical line until 6pm and didn't get on the ride until 7pm - that is a total of six hours waiting for a ride and from takeoff to the finish the ride is exactly 60 seconds long. I haven't ridden the Hagrid ride at Islands of Adventure yet but I've heard it lasts over 3 minutes - that sounds great! A measly 60 seconds is ridiculous.
Anyway, it's cool that you get a free digital copy of your photo afterward so at least that's something.
I am not 100% against recycling rides per say, I do wish they customized them some per park however. Like why is MRR in DHS and DLR both the same, they couldn't have had a unique scene each? Like the Twister scene in DHS is a nod to Great Movie Ride, it makes no sense in Toon Town. Why not a new scene with Roger Rabbit as a cameo as a nod to his ride next door or something like that?
Also while I think Tron is ultimately a good add to MK as Tomorrow-land needed ANYTHING new, they really have now hamstrung themselves in whatever redesign of Torrorow-land is coming... well hopefully coming (please... )
I do definitely think each park needs unique draws. Like copying Pandora from DAK to DCA or something would be a horrible idea, as you pointed out Pandora is the main draw of DAK. If they made a new Pandora based on the new movie at the level of DAK's Pandora now we are talking. The unique rides of the parks (Indy Jones, Radiator Springs, Flight of Passage, Spaceship Earth, etc) are the rides that bring people to those parks.
Thought the same thing when DCA got Little Mermaid, Soarin, ToT, Muppet Vision, Tough to be a Bug…why would I take an extra trip when I’ve been on all that in WDW?
No More Carbon Copy Rides!! Would be something else if Disney actually was against duplicating rides…each Park would of be Unique to its own. And guests would have a better appreciation to try to visit each park.
Well to me the points you made is what going to both makes it good so you can see the differences of the two rides that are the same like Disneyland’s pirates is longer and their hunted mansion has that holiday overlay which magic kingdoms hunted mansion doesn’t have. Just because the rides are the same doesn’t mean they won’t have slight differences between the other versions.
Your last point is why I'm planning to take my daughter to Disneyland before Disney World. My trips to Cedar Point and Universal Orlando have reminded me of the importance of walkability.
I love your videos and I’m a extremely huge fan of this channel however I have to respectfully disagree with your video. What if we can’t go to Japan or Paris to ride the ride. I feel like it’s necessary that they should open the same attraction in a different theme park for those of us who can’t afford a trip to Japan and are stuck in the USA. Maybe not they same ride type like a dumbo in mk and a similar attraction at ak but still.
It drives me nuts that the two Star Wars lands are the SAME. There are so many planets in Star Wars. Both parks are in rather different climates. Florida's should have had more plants, and creatures. Features t hat worked more in rain. California, focusing more on dry weather.
If they really do go all-in with Avatar stuff at Disneyland, I really hope that, since the WDW one seems mostly based on the first film, the Disneyland one ends up based more on one of the upcoming films. (Based more on Water, what other themes of the films are going to be the focus)
Some rides are worth cloning if they are iconic (Pirates, etc) but in other cases they are not. I always thought that Tron was an unnecessary addition for MK since Space Mountain is already there and that money and effort could have been allocated for other parks that need the growth more. This is why I'm not too thrilled about the bluesky Encanto/Coco/Villains addition for MK. Those aren't really necessary at MK either.
I agree that the cloning is not awesome. At first I thought you were going to mention how many versions of the dumbo spinner ride they have, just with different skins (Dumbo, Magic Carpets, the spinner rockets, the spinning triceratops in AK, etc).
Most of the things they duplicated in Florida from California are not as good…they realized getting people through the cue was the name of the game so they are noticeable shorter and less satisfying.
It is crazy to think, that Tron had longer construction time than F.L.Y at Phantasialand. F.L.Y is a prototype model built inside a highly themed land and a hotel which is intertwined with the coaster. It is on a bigger scale, more thrilling and better themed than Tron and Phantasialand is miniscule compared to Disney.
The wait for rides at every park is too long now, even with duplicate rides. It would be impossible if each park had unique rides.
100% agree on this. Everyone wants Pandora or Tron to come to Anaheim. No, just no. I love that Disneyland and DCA have things other parks don't. That's why as a Disneyland Magic key holder, I want to go to WDW so I can see things we don't have, not just versions of what we already have. I wasn't super excited about MMRR coming to Disneyland. It's a fun edition to Toontown but I would've preferred something new or at the very least a very different version of the ride. Trackless rides should offer that option but they don't. I'm going to WDW soon and I know we won't go to Galaxy's Edge and probably won't spend a lot of time in Magic Kingdom.
Disney haven’t update status of marvel e-ticketing ride in Hong Kong a while since the construction site is still empty. Beside they doesn’t announce that now the multiverse of DCA version is coming to Hong Kong too. I doubt marvel e-ticketing ride in Hong Kong is still on plan.
We tend to agree. I think that plot will likely be reserved for another project in the future.
4:38 this confirms they will not build pooh's hunny hunt in magic kingdom to upgrade their winnie the pooh dark ride D:
After going to Tokyo Disney Sea and then Hong Kong Disneyland, and seeing how unique the lands and experiences are (all of Disney Sea and Mystic Point at HK), I could not agree more with this. The more unique rides at each park, the more of an identity each park has and therefore it's own appeal to guests around the world. Sadly whenever there's a post about a ride or land in the international parks on the Disney Parks social media, a huge amount of the comments are "We need this in the US parks!!!".
As much as I'd love all unique additions to each park round the world, I think the best compromise is to keep the ride system the same and re-theme the actual ride, similar to the rumours about the Lion King Splash Mountain for Paris. If you look at Tower of Terror and Soaring Fantastic Flight in Tokyo Disney Sea or Phantom Manor in Disneyland Paris, the rides still feel different and have their own identity. Cloning exact rides limits your desire to go to another park, which is extra weird when they do it in California and Florida. Galaxy's Edge and Mickey and Minnie's Runaway Railway being carbon copies in the same country is asbolutely wild to me.
I tried to dig a hole to the other side of the earth when I was a kid and got about a foot deep...so I don't think I'm going to China anytime soon. So I don't mind if they have the same attractions at parks on different continents, especially something that looks as badass as Tron. But yeah I agree that Disneyland and magic kingdom being like the same is a little ridiculous
I can understand cloning a ride that’s further away, such as Tron. But cloning rides between Orlando and Anaheim feels redundant as it’s much easier to travel to those parks living in North America. Similar story for cloning rides that exist in Japan, Hong Kong and Shanghai.
Meanwhile, Mysterious Island is still only in Tokyo.
With what you mentioned about most of the Chapek era rides being cloned at other parks, it's kinda a miracle that Walt Disney World got a unique Guardians of the Galaxy ride, instead of retheming their Tower of Terror to be a Mission Breakout clone. Of course I'm glad that Walt Disney World's Tower of Terror remains unchanged, as it is the original version and so iconic. Not to mention, Mission Breakout wouldn't really work with the Sunset Boulevard theming without expanding it into their own Avengers Campus, which won't happen so long as Universal clings to those East Coast Marvel rights.
I think having the same good attractions is good. Most people can’t afford to go to Disney every year or couple of years, much less visit two different Disney parks in totally different parts of the world! So by having the best rides and worlds available in each park, Disney can attract those guests much more; if there are just a few good rides at a Disney park, I would doubt if I should go there given how much it costs, I could careless if they are unique rides because I’ll probable never even go to the other parks. And by having just a couple of differences between parks, Disney also attracts Disney fanatics wanting to experience everything Disney even if the cost is much higher for relatively few differences/experiences.
Like the vast majority of us, I'm never going to go to the parks in Shanghai, Hong Kong, Japan or Paris. Heck, I haven't been to Disneyland yet! So if they have great attractions that Disney can bring to Walt Disney World I say bring them over! I'm glad Tron is being added to Magic Kingdom. I don't care if Galaxy's Edge in Disneyland and WDW are identical. Uniqueness is interesting and fun, and there are plenty of unique things in all the parks. That said, I'm more interested in seeing and experiencing great attractions in a park I can and do visit, not dreaming about experiencing them knowing I will never get the chance.
One subcategory you could have included is when they repurpose the ride system but with totally different theming. I didn't initially realize that Test Track at WDW is pretty much the Cars ride at California Adventure. And now one Tower of Terror is the Twilight Zone and the other is Guardians of the Galaxy.
At least Universal don't make duplicates of their rides THAT much compared to Disney...
What are you talking about. Harry Potter land is in Orlando, California and Tokyo. Nintendo Land is also in Orlando, California and Tokyo. Same land and rides.😂
I agree. Make each park different
I can't imagine more than 1 or 2% of people would ever visit more than 1 Disney Park. Whilst it would be exciting to go to these other parks to see their unique attractions, for the average person it would be an incredible waste of money. Personally I think Disney put Tron in the wrong WDW park; it should have been in the future world section of Epcot, expanded to include another ride and a walk thru area similar to Galaxy's Edge. To have a drink the lounge in Tron Legacy, to see the ships flying overhead, to try out the other games in the grid (disc wars) would be as big to me as visiting a planet from Star Wars.
I went to Disney in December and was blown away with how many of the more recent rides were pretty much clones of one another it was uninspired and lazy
I feel like if we didn't had copy and paste attractions it will make us want to see other parks in different Disney resorts
Meanwhile Universal is announcing a whole myriad of new theme parks. Disney is creatively bankrupt
Whilst many points on Disney made sense, I think one needs to expand on why Universal gets the hall pass with Wizarding World (and soon Nintendo land). In fact, aren't most Universal having "Wizarding World", "Minions", "Jurassic" and now "Nintendo"? There was a 1-2 line in this video about Universal, but it really doesn't explain why they don't get the same critic as Disney on the same topic.
Are both equally guilty, or is the title right and being critical of Disney only?
POC in Magic Kingdom is a "shortened" version?
There are some Disney attractions that are considered anchors and staples of the parks that are fine cloning such as Pirates, Haunted Mansion, Peter Pan, the railroad, the steamboat, Tom Sawyer Island, etc. But otherwise yes, cloning attractions is wrong. Having unique attractions gives each park a unique identity and people simply need to learn to respect those identities. I don't want to see the exact same thing in every Disney park. If someone can't afford to travel to the different parks to see the different attractions that only exist there, then let them be consumed by jealousy.
11:04 What about Hagrid's?
You forgot the country bear jamboree
Americans are discouraged from traveling to China and will likely be barred from doing so in the next few years. It makes sense to build copies of those attractions here for that reason. Disney also knows the price of airfare and travel cuts into the amount people are willing to spend at the parks when they arrive, so it makes sense to build the rides closer to everyone's home park where they will not be impeded from maximizing spend within that resort.
Most people can’t afford to go Paris or Shanghai or any other country
Rumours are that Disney ordered 3 of the tron track so another lucky park will be getting the clone. Probably Disneyland Parc in Paris?
maybe its about time someone will bring it up about universal too. still waiting on that
As a Floridian I'm so happy to have Tron. I definitely don't have the money to go to China to ride it. Perhaps the haters that run this channel do.
But as a Floridian, you also have the Hagrid’s Motorbike Adventure. Which is a superior roller coaster to the Tron Lightcycle, partially due to have a much longer track.
As a West Coast person, I have very little desire to go to Disney Hollywood studio when most of its attractions are at Disneyland resort. And it's only exclusive unique attractions are Muppets vision 3D and twilight zone tower of terror
Thank you for putting into words every problem that I’ve ever had with copying attractions from one park to the next.