I also have one of these for an outdoor shower in my backyard (just for fun). Mine works great, but it was not particularly easy to set up and make the connections. The gas connection was fairly straightforward, and the shower head also went fairly easily (I have the flexible metal tubing shower head BTW--much much nicer than that plastic tubing), however I had to futz around for quite awhile to get a reliable non-leaking connection for the water hose. The adapter that came with the L5 for the water input connection was flat-out defective and came apart. After a trip to the hardware store, I finally found an adapter for the water input connection on the L5 that would allow me to use a quick disconnect on the water hose, and that setup finally worked well and was leak-free. Don't set the water pressure too high from the hose supply or the water will cycle through the heater mechanism too fast and it won't heat up properly. Also, try setting the shower head for a higher pressure setting which will further somewhat restrict the flow of water through the heater unit, and give you a nice hot spray from the shower head.
Hi Terry! My last tank lasted three months and one week. I guess it depends on how often and for how long you use it. Propane cost around $2.50 a gallon (a 20 lb cylinder holds about five gallons). Depending on where I buy propane I pay from $12.50 to. $14.50 to fill a 20 lb tank. Be advised the Blue Rhino tanks state plainly on the level they contain 15 lbs of propane. I'm happy with the L-5 but they have other models. Best of luck! Wayne
I am looking to purchase one of these in the next few weeks along with a shurflo pump to build a bathroom extension in my own off-grid Tiny House. Your mountain-scapes remind me of those around here in Colorado. :) Glad to see the Heater is working out well. - Cloud
thank you starrry. You know I happen to have a rather Exquisite plumber for a husband and he is insistent upon giving us quite a nice setup! However I really like the idea of this battery operated tankless water heater! The reason being that a regular converted water heater will use your propane constantly to keep that water hot! This option is really going to save on resources that we have to purchase! Of course there's always wood but while propane is cheap, why not?
Excellent looks good all you need is a spare set of batteries if this is installed in your Rv because the shower will not work without them you need them to run the pump. How long would that propane tank last running that water heater?
After looking over your videos, What came to mind was a small hydro generator attached to that water supply line up the hill and possibly another one that could connect to the over flow. Cheap generators can produce 8-18 volts and might extend your power supply in the Winter.. I have been preparing for off the grid living for a long time and If I can find land with running water I would like multiple power sources to charge the batteries.
Very good! All very clear with clear video and the editing was right. I want a Tank-less water heater for deer camp. We all carry several tanks for a weeks stay at camp and a shower would be very affordable. Thumbs up.
Cant say i agree with installing that heater inside, carbon monoxide is no joke, i know you have a fan, but that could stop working or become plugged up, carbon monoxide also sinks so the fan might not even pick it up, propane could leak so also having a bbq tank inside is a big safety no no they should NEVER be inside, but if nothing else get a carbon monoxide/lp gas detector they do say not to be used indoors for a reason
Hello nice to meet you dig the channel and the website. As I am new to relatively new to RUclips and to find my first video here with the same unit is AWESOME.Just wish I could have thanked you Sooner for the list and the Video caught what you said about the off grid lifestyle and mind set and not just unpluging and moving the whole house with all the stuff that you don't need
+MONTANA-MADNESS MCflurry slippers Glad you found us!!! YES this unit is the b omb. My husband just installed another one for the kitchen sink..so nice to have warm water!! Thanks for coming along and commenting!!
One word. Dump-loading. I get most of my hot water from a 300watt element that dumps my 24volt surplus into a tank i only ever intended to be a "preheat" cylinder. My water now as we approach the NZ summer is steaming hot at all times. It doesn't take long with 2.2Kw of PVs to get my batteries charged, and then as voltage rises, my charge controller simply starts running this and other dump loads as well as limiting the harvest to avoid over charging. Another thing i run is a dehumidifier as a dump load. If i decide to boil the jug, these will automatically shut off till battery voltage is high again, so it's quite easy to run this from very little PV. I also have 2x190watt panels, my original panel, hooked directly to an element, but usually it's the dump load that provides the most energy.
He he... Old comments still get noticed, so the update is that i upgaded to a 3*300W element, and run either 300 or the full 900W, which tends to be more in practice, as these ratings are @ 24V, but the system dumps at higher voltages.
Have you considered installing a solar thermal panel or 2 for hot water? They are pretty cheap and only require a small pump to pump water up to your roof to heat the water. It might not be useful if you can't have it on all the time, but I would imagine you would only be running it in the summer when you have LOTS of electricity to use. I've watched a whole bunch of your videos today and left a lot of comments and I hope I am not coming off negatively because I've really enjoyed the videos.
no problem!!! thanks for your feed back. yes we have been working on a thermal siphon solar water set up for summer. winter we use the woodstove...thermal siphon system. u can find a vid of the set up somewhere way back in the begining of the vids. lotts a projects and everything takes time...and we like to have lotts fun to! mr.H
Hi, I use two Eccotemp L5 units. One for the shower and one for the kitchen sink. You probably already are aware of this but if you are careful you can add a Tee connection at the hot water outlet of the tankless water heater and run it to the bathroom sink. You need two wrenches or pliers to hold the pipe coming out of the unit stationary while tightening the tee. I didn't plan mine very we'll and barely had enough room to install it. Also, if you connect a tee you can only use either the shower or the sink, not both at the same time. I'll be glad to show you a picture of what I did if you are interested. If you can afford the second unit to hang next to the sink it would save you hauling the hot water for the dishes. I've used my two units for over a year now and just recently drilled a hole through the wall so I could put the propane tank outside...makes it rough if you need to swap tanks mid-shower...Brrrr! Thanks, best of luck, Wayne
Wayne Farrell Well thank you for all the great info!!! I have had both cold water for both sinks now and it gets old..freezing mountain water isn't that refreshing when you get up at 4:30 am and want to wash your face!!! We bought a second unit for the kitchen and my husband will be doing what you did..putting the tank outside and drilling. BUT the tee idea..love it..my husband told me t his morning and I am so excited!! THANK YOU so much for taking the time to write this down for us
Is there a different style? Like rather than have a shower head, are there also sink faucet heads available? If you have enough money to do so, you could set up 2 heaters. One for the shower, and the next for the sink. That way there's hot water in both the kitchen and bathroom
Hang on exterior wall connect to water main if you have that kind of setup. Either way you shouldn’t inhale the exhaust fumes. I’ve seen other models made for indoor use and they have closed vent systems that allow duct work to vent gas outside. Thanks for the video.
+Allison Stevens remember you need i think around minimum 20lbs water pressure for it to operate. we hooked a second one up to the kitchen sink and they both work great.
so is the pressure coming from an internal pump IN the tankless or does that come from pressure in a water pressure tank, maybe attached to a well or something... i actually invested in a couple solar water heaters that i bought from china a few years ago - one is a split pressure (which means there is a loop of tubing that goes through the solar part, takes the heated fluid and transfers the heat in the tube to the water in a tank.. becuase it's separate you can have the tube filled with antifreeze so the solar part can stay outside all year)... i also have a single tank one which means the heat from the solar tubes directly heats the water in the tank (tank is 'on top') but you have to drain the tank in the winter... amazing how little sun it takes to heat the water up, and even as a pre-heater for some other source of heating, it's great.. in the summer the gas water heater doesn't even turn on. by the way both solar systems together, including freight on a boat from china to canada was about 1200 bucks, and i have to say the cusotmer service was ASTOUNDING TERRIFIC.. alibaba is my new friend. not sure if you guys in the US can import stuff from china though (or want to).
Sounds like you got a great system there! Thanks for sharing....I just did a video addressing our off grid water and how it works (soon to be posted)...so funny you ask about the tankless heater. We do now have a pressure tank. The tankless heater needs so much psi to run, and our gravity feed system didn't provide enough pressure. Thus the pump was installed. But..it only runs for a minute like twice a day..very little electricity. BUT if we ever lose power we will go back to our old system..heating the water thru our woodstove in the winter...and less pressure..I LOVE THE idea of the sun heating the water..in the summer this would be Great for our set up. Im gonna have my husband read this and if he has nay questions we will keep you posted! Thanks for the awesome info on your setup!
Starry Hilder now, i didn't invent thermo dynamics or whatever the heck you call it when hot water rises, but if you were to put a couple coils of bendy copper pipe and wire it to the back of the your woodstove, so one end went to the cold 'in' hole on an old water tank and the other end went in the hot 'out' hole, it technically should cycle the water and start a syphon - back to the stove, gets heated, into the hot water tank, rises up which sucks more cold into the tank...... engineer775 has a bunch of videos on it.... costs next to nothing, and that way you're not steaming up the house and lugging water all over... and a water tank holds a heck of a lot more than a pot!
I would really be worried about carbon monoxide with your venting system. Does the mfr not recommend a vent kit that attaches to the unit? That being said, how long of a shower can you take? Is the hot water never ending?
They are great little units, I have one for my cabin. These water heaters are meant to be used outside. I have it set up that the water heater is in my utility room with separate ventilation, not in the bathroom. Most importantly you should keep your propane tank outside. You make it sound like these units are supplying the water pressure, but you need supplied water pressure to turn these units on. A 12 Volt RV pump for example would work. If the water is very cold to begin with it will not quite heat up the water enough to have a nice hot shower. Even with all that it is still a great solution for off-grid set-ups.
Luke B All good advice. We of course do things a little unconventional on homestead. But it works for us! Just a note..our water is freezing cold..direct fr om that spring..and this baby heats it right up. AND yes..you need a pressure tank to run it!!
No it is not, the input water temperature has a big effect on what the output water temperature would be. Not a big concern if you hook up your hot water heater to just supply the hot water to your shower or any hot water needs so you can mix in cold water if needed. (just like a regular shower) I have also found that the unit seems to heat the water up more and more as you are talking a shower so it is nice to be able to adjust how much cold water you want to mix in as you are showering. You do have the option to regulate how much water goes through the unit with a knob on front and that would effect the output water temperature for obvious reasons.
for those of you in a wooded area that don't want to invest in propane there are several videos, especially one who has the name engineer in his username, showing how you can use the wood on your property for heating hot water in the winter time while you are heating your house! on the wood stove of course there are also simple outdoor methods for the summer time for heating hot water
Could a person make this a permanent tankless water heater and maybe have 2 or more for different locations all plumbed for a large propane tank and water inlets? Perhaps you should also do a video for the maintenance of tankless water heaters...like having to flush them once or twice a year. Also for your video on water storage for droughts...what about going to having grey water tanks for garden areas...just a thought. Keep busy with more videos!
I am looking at propane for heating water like you are doing, but I'm confused in that you have your tank inside and everything I have read is that having them inside is dangerous. What is your advice/opinion?
they will tell u everything is dangerous! think about it...its no more dangerous than having a lp cooktop stove oven inside. and that is on alot longer when your cooking supper. the other thing is having a exhaust fan in the bathrm, which everybody does. so thats on removing moisture and and carbon dioxide fumes....but remember, this is just my common sense opinion!!.
This was built in 1969 no exhaust so I guess I cold just use fan and open a window this winter in Maryland. burrr I am also looking at the Coleman's Hot Water On Demand www.coleman.com/hot-water-on-demand-h2oasis-portable-water-heater/2000026562.html I am living in a building with electric but no water so I have to haul water in. Trying to learn as much as I can about living Off Grid and hope to buy cheap land (to expensive here) and have a Tiny House soon.
Dan..hopefully one day my husband will get around to putting another tankless water heater in the kitchen so i can have hot water on the spot!! But they sure do work great
Starry Hilder When your husband puts a tankless water heater in your kitchen, will you make a video of the process of hitching up the hose, the hardware needed and all that jazz? I'm going to replace some of the cellar's copper tubing with REX tubing, as the copper water pipes freezes-thanks. I also have a tankless water heater waiting to be hitched up- just don't have the knowledge how to go about that process
S Robin Of Course we will make that video!! I just have to get my husband to do it now!:) Maybe if the deman is high he will get it done! haha It really isnt to hard but it sure is nice if someone can walk you thru!! Thanks dear!
I can’t get the app to let me email you. Does this set up still work in the winter when the ground is coming up colder? Will it be enough to heat up the Coldwater? I really want to buy those but I live in Northwest Ohio and I’m not sure how well it will work in the winter
How long does that tank ov propane last you with regular usage? Also, what's that crazy looking plumbing at the back ov the shower that the black hose is connected to? :)
xanataph The bathroom tank lasts for about 6 months! And we shower daily and I use it for the water in the kitchen since I have no hot water in the kitchen. YOU noticed the plumbing...yea..we did our own plumbing...my husband one day is suppose to finish the bathroom. We should have a regular shower head coming off the back wall someday. SOMEDAY....ahhh I dream of genie sometimes!
carbon monoxide yes, but no more than when u cook on a kitchen stove. also we have the shower exhaust fan turned on when taking a shower so should not be a problem.
Starry is going to need our help, she has been in a bad accident. Details are here: www.gofundme.com/starryhilder A GoFundMe page was started on her behalf. Even $1 would go a long way to help her during this crisis in her and her family's life. I created an email address that I will share with Starry and her family, they will receive 100% of the proceeds by using this address. I have listed the address at the hospital where you can send cards or care packages on the GoFundMe page if you prefer send something through the mail, just so everything is in one central location. Starry has a daytime job as a nurse and needs our support to help with bills and running her homestead while she is recovering. As you all know she also contributes immensely to her homestead's upkeep and her contribution will be missed. If everyone donates only $1 it will go a long way to help her keep things running. If you can't donate but still want to help, here is a poster you can print and share: tinyurl.com/j988m54 Here is a link to an update video she posted yesterday: ruclips.net/video/4Til0Cj-yKc/видео.html Thank you for anything you can do to help.
Battery power seems to be "under rated" by off girders... there is so much out there that is battery powered, but battery powered lighting is most important. rechargeable batteries and a small solar recharging unit...
that's great!!!! the more i research the more i find out how being off-grid is not as bad as i thought it would be. if you invest in proper equipment and think everything through that is. my only concern is water source now. finding a land with water on it is gonna be tough!
+Rocky Rocky Well sounds good but we actually dont like the rocket stoves. We have built a couple and if you have ever burned wood..the rocket stove is kinda limited..you have to keep feeding it twigs..and sticks and you gotta cut the stuff up small. We have burned wood all our lives and really like the barrel stove..we have on outside...and indeed it could do a better and more efficient job at heating water then a rocket stove...thanks for the idea..its a always GOOD to think outside the box!!
*+Starry Hilder* first time here, nice BIG channel! why don't you plumb the hot line to the outlet of the water heater and then you would have hot water everywhere instead of filling a bucket, taking it to the kitchen, etc? should be simple, especially if you use PEX. .
we hooked up a seperate on demand hot water heater for the kitchen sink. finally! the problem with running tieing into the line from the other hot water heater was it would take forever for the hot water to get here.
ahhhh, know what you mean. our setup for now makes the hot water travel about 50+ feet. even with no restrictor in the faucet it SEEMS like it takes forever to get there.
You have about 300 safety violations in just your bathroom. That water heater is not designed for indoor use! You are venting propane exhaust right into your living space! A tankless water heater that is designed for indoor use will have a vent tube that blows un-burnt gases, etc. outside! Please get a carbon monoxide detector alarm...at the very least
Gas cooking stoves are designed for indoor use but not for heating spaces. Indoor, ventless heaters burn so efficiently that some do not require venting and are indoor safe. Tankless water heaters do require venting to the outside.
Hey guys believe it or not there are tankless water heaters u can use inside. Just do the research. And I am sure they have a carbon monoxide dectetors.
+Starry Hilder right i have a triton 5l portable water heater works great love thos things and yes ur right with the fan on im sure it is no prob cool vid btw
So you truly can take as long a shower as you wish (assuming endless water and propane)? I've been surviving with a (TINY) 4 gallon RV water tank for 9 months and am about ready to trade my first born for a real shower! lol
I also have one of these for an outdoor shower in my backyard (just for fun). Mine works great, but it was not particularly easy to set up and make the connections. The gas connection was fairly straightforward, and the shower head also went fairly easily (I have the flexible metal tubing shower head BTW--much much nicer than that plastic tubing), however I had to futz around for quite awhile to get a reliable non-leaking connection for the water hose. The adapter that came with the L5 for the water input connection was flat-out defective and came apart. After a trip to the hardware store, I finally found an adapter for the water input connection on the L5 that would allow me to use a quick disconnect on the water hose, and that setup finally worked well and was leak-free. Don't set the water pressure too high from the hose supply or the water will cycle through the heater mechanism too fast and it won't heat up properly. Also, try setting the shower head for a higher pressure setting which will further somewhat restrict the flow of water through the heater unit, and give you a nice hot spray from the shower head.
Hi Terry! My last tank lasted three months and one week. I guess it depends on how often and for how long you use it. Propane cost around $2.50 a gallon (a 20 lb cylinder holds about five gallons). Depending on where I buy propane I pay from $12.50 to. $14.50 to fill a 20 lb tank. Be advised the Blue Rhino tanks state plainly on the level they contain 15 lbs of propane. I'm happy with the L-5 but they have other models. Best of luck! Wayne
I am looking to purchase one of these in the next few weeks along with a shurflo pump to build a bathroom extension in my own off-grid Tiny House. Your mountain-scapes remind me of those around here in Colorado. :) Glad to see the Heater is working out well. - Cloud
thank you starrry.
You know I happen to have a rather Exquisite plumber for a husband and he is insistent upon giving us quite a nice setup! However I really like the idea of this battery operated tankless water heater! The reason being that a regular converted water heater will use your propane constantly to keep that water hot! This option is really going to save on resources that we have to purchase! Of course there's always wood but while propane is cheap, why not?
Hi, and thanks for your videos. My question is this: Will this work with a 55-gallon rainwater barrel as the water source?
Excellent looks good all you need is a spare set of batteries if this is installed in your Rv because the shower will not work without them you need them to run the pump. How long would that propane tank last running that water heater?
After looking over your videos, What came to mind was a small hydro generator attached to that water supply line up the hill and possibly another one that could connect to the over flow. Cheap generators can produce 8-18 volts and might extend your power supply in the Winter.. I have been preparing for off the grid living for a long time and If I can find land with running water I would like multiple power sources to charge the batteries.
Very good! All very clear with clear video and the editing was right. I want a Tank-less water heater for deer camp. We all carry several tanks for a weeks stay at camp and a shower would be very affordable. Thumbs up.
Cant say i agree with installing that heater inside, carbon monoxide is no joke, i know you have a fan, but that could stop working or become plugged up, carbon monoxide also sinks so the fan might not even pick it up, propane could leak so also having a bbq tank inside is a big safety no no they should NEVER be inside, but if nothing else get a carbon monoxide/lp gas detector they do say not to be used indoors for a reason
I think its to be installed in open areas, the gas build up may be fatal if installed in closed spaces.
Hello nice to meet you dig the channel and the website. As I am new to relatively new to RUclips and to find my first video here with the same unit is AWESOME.Just wish I could have thanked you Sooner for the list and the Video caught what you said about the off grid lifestyle and mind set and not just unpluging and moving the whole house with all the stuff that you don't need
+MONTANA-MADNESS MCflurry slippers Glad you found us!!! YES this unit is the b omb. My husband just installed another one for the kitchen sink..so nice to have warm water!! Thanks for coming along and commenting!!
One word. Dump-loading.
I get most of my hot water from a 300watt element that dumps my 24volt surplus into a tank i only ever intended to be a "preheat" cylinder. My water now as we approach the NZ summer is steaming hot at all times.
It doesn't take long with 2.2Kw of PVs to get my batteries charged, and then as voltage rises, my charge controller simply starts running this and other dump loads as well as limiting the harvest to avoid over charging. Another thing i run is a dehumidifier as a dump load. If i decide to boil the jug, these will automatically shut off till battery voltage is high again, so it's quite easy to run this from very little PV.
I also have 2x190watt panels, my original panel, hooked directly to an element, but usually it's the dump load that provides the most energy.
He he...
Old comments still get noticed, so the update is that i upgaded to a 3*300W element, and run either 300 or the full 900W, which tends to be more in practice, as these ratings are @ 24V, but the system dumps at higher voltages.
Thanks Arkansas Prepper for the feedback!!! YUP, GREAT for a deer camp! Gotta have hot shower to be clean for those deer that might come by!
Have you considered installing a solar thermal panel or 2 for hot water? They are pretty cheap and only require a small pump to pump water up to your roof to heat the water. It might not be useful if you can't have it on all the time, but I would imagine you would only be running it in the summer when you have LOTS of electricity to use. I've watched a whole bunch of your videos today and left a lot of comments and I hope I am not coming off negatively because I've really enjoyed the videos.
no problem!!! thanks for your feed back. yes we have been working on a thermal siphon solar water set up for summer. winter we use the woodstove...thermal siphon system. u can find a vid of the set up somewhere way back in the begining of the vids. lotts a projects and everything takes time...and we like to have lotts fun to! mr.H
Does it not need to be vented??
Hi, I use two Eccotemp L5 units. One for the shower and one for the kitchen sink. You probably already are aware of this but if you are careful you can add a Tee connection at the hot water outlet of the tankless water heater and run it to the bathroom sink. You need two wrenches or pliers to hold the pipe coming out of the unit stationary while tightening the tee. I didn't plan mine very we'll and barely had enough room to install it. Also, if you connect a tee you can only use either the shower or the sink, not both at the same time. I'll be glad to show you a picture of what I did if you are interested.
If you can afford the second unit to hang next to the sink it would save you hauling the hot water for the dishes.
I've used my two units for over a year now and just recently drilled a hole through the wall so I could put the propane tank outside...makes it rough if you need to swap tanks mid-shower...Brrrr!
Thanks, best of luck,
Wayne
Wayne Farrell Well thank you for all the great info!!! I have had both cold water for both sinks now and it gets old..freezing mountain water isn't that refreshing when you get up at 4:30 am and want to wash your face!!! We bought a second unit for the kitchen and my husband will be doing what you did..putting the tank outside and drilling. BUT the tee idea..love it..my husband told me t his morning and I am so excited!! THANK YOU so much for taking the time to write this down for us
Wayne Farrell Can you please tell your approximit propane consumption?I am considering installing a unit
Is there a different style? Like rather than have a shower head, are there also sink faucet heads available? If you have enough money to do so, you could set up 2 heaters. One for the shower, and the next for the sink. That way there's hot water in both the kitchen and bathroom
I would like to see how you got water pressure and reservoir to feed heater
Hang on exterior wall connect to water main if you have that kind of setup. Either way you shouldn’t inhale the exhaust fumes. I’ve seen other models made for indoor use and they have closed vent systems that allow duct work to vent gas outside. Thanks for the video.
How’s that work in freezing temperatures?
What do people with gas stoves and propane heaters do- use them outside?
I'm gonna look into this, thanks. God bless you and Mr Hilder.
I live in a mobile home with plumbing issues with outside piping leaks and I may go with that unit, becuase its only on-demand!
Thanks for posting this! I need one and this will save me hundreds of dollars! For RVs, they usually want close to $1000 to purchase and install.
+Allison Stevens remember you need i think around minimum 20lbs water pressure for it to operate. we hooked a second one up to the kitchen sink and they both work great.
Where does your water source come from? Rainwater tank?
I like tile you use in your shower... nice look. But... Nobody goes to lunch until that job is finished!
What is your incoming water source??? Or what??
so is the pressure coming from an internal pump IN the tankless or does that come from pressure in a water pressure tank, maybe attached to a well or something... i actually invested in a couple solar water heaters that i bought from china a few years ago - one is a split pressure (which means there is a loop of tubing that goes through the solar part, takes the heated fluid and transfers the heat in the tube to the water in a tank.. becuase it's separate you can have the tube filled with antifreeze so the solar part can stay outside all year)... i also have a single tank one which means the heat from the solar tubes directly heats the water in the tank (tank is 'on top') but you have to drain the tank in the winter... amazing how little sun it takes to heat the water up, and even as a pre-heater for some other source of heating, it's great.. in the summer the gas water heater doesn't even turn on. by the way both solar systems together, including freight on a boat from china to canada was about 1200 bucks, and i have to say the cusotmer service was ASTOUNDING TERRIFIC.. alibaba is my new friend. not sure if you guys in the US can import stuff from china though (or want to).
Sounds like you got a great system there! Thanks for sharing....I just did a video addressing our off grid water and how it works (soon to be posted)...so funny you ask about the tankless heater. We do now have a pressure tank. The tankless heater needs so much psi to run, and our gravity feed system didn't provide enough pressure. Thus the pump was installed. But..it only runs for a minute like twice a day..very little electricity. BUT if we ever lose power we will go back to our old system..heating the water thru our woodstove in the winter...and less pressure..I LOVE THE idea of the sun heating the water..in the summer this would be Great for our set up. Im gonna have my husband read this and if he has nay questions we will keep you posted! Thanks for the awesome info on your setup!
Starry Hilder now, i didn't invent thermo dynamics or whatever the heck you call it when hot water rises, but if you were to put a couple coils of bendy copper pipe and wire it to the back of the your woodstove, so one end went to the cold 'in' hole on an old water tank and the other end went in the hot 'out' hole, it technically should cycle the water and start a syphon - back to the stove, gets heated, into the hot water tank, rises up which sucks more cold into the tank...... engineer775 has a bunch of videos on it.... costs next to nothing, and that way you're not steaming up the house and lugging water all over... and a water tank holds a heck of a lot more than a pot!
Blackwater hose through your kitchen window works well , so you don't have to heat up water
have you tried Coleman portable water heater , can use for Kitchen
I would really be worried about carbon monoxide with your venting system. Does the mfr not recommend a vent kit that attaches to the unit? That being said, how long of a shower can you take? Is the hot water never ending?
What do people with gas stoves and heaters do?
That being said, there are vented units available.
They are great little units, I have one for my cabin. These water heaters are meant to be used outside. I have it set up that the water heater is in my utility room with separate ventilation, not in the bathroom. Most importantly you should keep your propane tank outside. You make it sound like these units are supplying the water pressure, but you need supplied water pressure to turn these units on. A 12 Volt RV pump for example would work. If the water is very cold to begin with it will not quite heat up the water enough to have a nice hot shower. Even with all that it is still a great solution for off-grid set-ups.
Luke B All good advice. We of course do things a little unconventional on homestead. But it works for us! Just a note..our water is freezing cold..direct fr om that spring..and this baby heats it right up. AND yes..you need a pressure tank to run it!!
Luke B Can you please tell me what happens if your input water temp. is not always the same.Is the output temperature regulated
No it is not, the input water temperature has a big effect on what the output water temperature would be. Not a big concern if you hook up your hot water heater to just supply the hot water to your shower or any hot water needs so you can mix in cold water if needed. (just like a regular shower) I have also found that the unit seems to heat the water up more and more as you are talking a shower so it is nice to be able to adjust how much cold water you want to mix in as you are showering. You do have the option to regulate how much water goes through the unit with a knob on front and that would effect the output water temperature for obvious reasons.
Thank you very much! Mr. Luke!
How long are your showers? Do you smell bad?
for those of you in a wooded area that don't want to invest in propane there are several videos, especially one who has the name engineer in his username, showing how you can use the wood on your property for heating hot water in the winter time while you are heating your house! on the wood stove of course there are also simple outdoor methods for the summer time for heating hot water
Could a person make this a permanent tankless water heater and maybe have 2 or more for different locations all plumbed for a large propane tank and water inlets? Perhaps you should also do a video for the maintenance of tankless water heaters...like having to flush them once or twice a year. Also for your video on water storage for droughts...what about going to having grey water tanks for garden areas...just a thought. Keep busy with more videos!
Do you have to have pressurized water feeding it?
Yes
How do you get the water to the tankless heater? Do you have a pressurized system to feed the heater and faucets?
yes we installed a pump and pressure tank as the water heaters would not work with out a certain amount of pressure.
where's the water going into the tank coming from? do u have a rain system?
I am looking at propane for heating water like you are doing, but I'm confused in that you have your tank inside and everything I have read is that having them inside is dangerous. What is your advice/opinion?
they will tell u everything is dangerous! think about it...its no more dangerous than having a lp cooktop stove oven inside. and that is on alot longer when your cooking supper. the other thing is having a exhaust fan in the bathrm, which everybody does. so thats on removing moisture and and carbon dioxide fumes....but remember, this is just my common sense opinion!!.
This was built in 1969 no exhaust so I guess I cold just use fan and open a window this winter in Maryland. burrr
I am also looking at the Coleman's Hot Water On Demand
www.coleman.com/hot-water-on-demand-h2oasis-portable-water-heater/2000026562.html
I am living in a building with electric but no water so I have to haul water in. Trying to learn as much as I can about living Off Grid and hope to buy cheap land (to expensive here) and have a Tiny House soon.
Thank you for the wonderful idea, i think i would buy extra tankless waterheaters for bathroom sinks and kitchen sinks
Dan..hopefully one day my husband will get around to putting another tankless water heater in the kitchen so i can have hot water on the spot!! But they sure do work great
Starry Hilder absolutely
Starry Hilder When your husband puts a tankless water heater in your kitchen, will you make a video of the process of hitching up the hose, the hardware needed and all that jazz? I'm going to replace some of the cellar's copper tubing with REX tubing, as the copper water pipes freezes-thanks. I also have a tankless water heater waiting to be hitched up- just don't have the knowledge how to go about that process
S Robin Of Course we will make that video!! I just have to get my husband to do it now!:) Maybe if the deman is high he will get it done! haha It really isnt to hard but it sure is nice if someone can walk you thru!! Thanks dear!
I have a frozen water pipe that has to be replace, want to use that REX but don't know what I need to connect to that copper pipe- thank
I can’t get the app to let me email you. Does this set up still work in the winter when the ground is coming up colder? Will it be enough to heat up the Coldwater? I really want to buy those but I live in Northwest Ohio and I’m not sure how well it will work in the winter
What is you are not connected to a water line? Can the unit still suck up water from say a bucket and still work?
Yes, they can be used that way. Stables use these heaters for washing down horses.
Yes these are commonly used with 12v/120v pumps.
How long does that tank ov propane last you with regular usage? Also, what's that crazy looking plumbing at the back ov the shower that the black hose is connected to? :)
xanataph The bathroom tank lasts for about 6 months! And we shower daily and I use it for the water in the kitchen since I have no hot water in the kitchen. YOU noticed the plumbing...yea..we did our own plumbing...my husband one day is suppose to finish the bathroom. We should have a regular shower head coming off the back wall someday. SOMEDAY....ahhh I dream of genie sometimes!
Love it! After doing all that hard work you deserve a nice hot shower. Would love to see you do a video on doing your laundry!
How long does that bottle of Propane last?
i didn't think those were supposed to be mounted indoors. does it emit fumes or any smoke from heating?
carbon monoxide yes, but no more than when u cook on a kitchen stove. also we have the shower exhaust fan turned on when taking a shower so should not be a problem.
how long do the batteries last for if used for 2-3 ppl?
The batteries are only used for ignition and should last quite a long time.
Does this not need to be vented??
Do gas stoves and heaters?
Starry is going to need our help, she has been in a bad accident. Details are here: www.gofundme.com/starryhilder
A GoFundMe page was started on her behalf. Even $1 would go a long way to help her during this crisis in her and her family's life. I created an email address that I will share with Starry and her family, they will receive 100% of the proceeds by using this address. I have listed the address at the hospital where you can send cards or care packages on the GoFundMe page if you prefer send something through the mail, just so everything is in one central location. Starry has a daytime job as a nurse and needs our support to help with bills and running her homestead while she is recovering. As you all know she also contributes immensely to her homestead's upkeep and her contribution will be missed. If everyone donates only $1 it will go a long way to help her keep things running.
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How long does the 20lb LP tank last if two people took one shower a day?
hidden75 Actually we use it twice a day for washing dishes..and then showers..so alot of use! I would say around 3 months!
Where did you get yours at and for how much?
+Charlotte West amazon, i have them on my starry store. when we bought ours they were 109$
www.offgridevolution
Battery power seems to be "under rated" by off girders...
there is so much out there that is battery powered, but battery powered lighting is most important.
rechargeable batteries and a small solar recharging unit...
question... how often do you change that small propane tank? :)
+Ramtin Kazemi if i remember correctly2 1/2 to 3 months
that's great!!!! the more i research the more i find out how being off-grid is not as bad as i thought it would be. if you invest in proper equipment and think everything through that is. my only concern is water source now. finding a land with water on it is gonna be tough!
+Ramtin Kazemi when we get out solar hotwater siphon feed built it should be even less!
how long does it last on one 20 lb tank of lp?
I was thinking about a rocket stove outside your kitchen window piped into the sink to wash your dishes. tell me what you think.
+Rocky Rocky Well sounds good but we actually dont like the rocket stoves. We have built a couple and if you have ever burned wood..the rocket stove is kinda limited..you have to keep feeding it twigs..and sticks and you gotta cut the stuff up small. We have burned wood all our lives and really like the barrel stove..we have on outside...and indeed it could do a better and more efficient job at heating water then a rocket stove...thanks for the idea..its a always GOOD to think outside the box!!
did mr hilder build that shower?
Hey so do you have to have water pressure to the Eccotemp or does it pump its water?
yes, we have water pressure. u have to have a certain amount for the ecotemp to work. i dont know that number right off the top of my head.
Curious how long the propane tank lasts with this set up.
Reacar1 with just the 2 of us here..4-5 months. $11.00 to fill up a cylinder.
Starry Hilder Wow, that's great. Thank you
So it creates it's own pressure?
No.
thanks very cool
Alynne Loup Glad you liked it!!
*+Starry Hilder*
first time here, nice BIG channel!
why don't you plumb the hot line to the outlet of the water heater and then you would have hot water everywhere instead of filling a bucket, taking it to the kitchen, etc?
should be simple, especially if you use PEX.
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we hooked up a seperate on demand hot water heater for the kitchen sink. finally! the problem with running tieing into the line from the other hot water heater was it would take forever for the hot water to get here.
ahhhh, know what you mean.
our setup for now makes the hot water travel about 50+ feet.
even with no restrictor in the faucet it SEEMS like it takes forever to get there.
You have about 300 safety violations in just your bathroom. That water heater is not designed for indoor use! You are venting propane exhaust right into your living space! A tankless water heater that is designed for indoor use will have a vent tube that blows un-burnt gases, etc. outside! Please get a carbon monoxide detector alarm...at the very least
What do people with gas stoves and ventless heaters do, drop like flies?
Gas cooking stoves are designed for indoor use but not for heating spaces. Indoor, ventless heaters burn so efficiently that some do not require venting and are indoor safe. Tankless water heaters do require venting to the outside.
@@edwardl.990 Uh huh.
I clipped my toe nails while watching this. Great video.
Hey guys believe it or not there are tankless water heaters u can use inside. Just do the research. And I am sure they have a carbon monoxide dectetors.
1:10 two D cell batteries??! are you freaking kidding me? that's awesome! why not rechargeables tho?
We do have enlops...and love rechargeable...you noticed..good eyes!
not good enoph venting corbon monoxide poisoning but cool set up it wuld be awsome for an outdoor shower or sumthing
+Starry Hilder right i have a triton 5l portable water heater works great love thos things and yes ur right with the fan on im sure it is no prob cool vid btw
why was ninja tuna playing for half a second there??
So you truly can take as long a shower as you wish (assuming endless water and propane)?
I've been surviving with a (TINY) 4 gallon RV water tank for 9 months and am about ready to trade my first born for a real shower! lol
Actually it's called a vent
I don't think it is a good idea to have a propane tank indoors
great video but you describe your tank less water by describing the propane "tank here". therefore not "tank less". Just found that funny.
You’re either easily amused or misunderstood that statement.
Not a good idea. Not safe.
Wrong it needs batteries
Tankless water heater and then shows a dam tank
Seriously??🤦♂️
Very very DANGER keep it inside your bathroom! Take care.
Oh stop
@@matthewrussell9120 Do a quick research on the effects of carbon monoxide indoors.
@@apzeiroturbo no
@@matthewrussell9120 yes
Lighten up, Francis. What do people with gas stoves and ventless heaters do??
Tooo Dangerous this can Explode