Should You Join the Windows "Insider" Program?
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
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Windows Insider website: insider.windows.com/
Insider "Flight Hub": docs.microsoft.com/en-us/wind...
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0:00 - Intro
0:48 - What Is It?
1:56 - Very Good Thing
3:34 - Dev Channel
5:39 - Beta Channel
7:55 - Internal Channels
9:23 - Release Preview Channel
10:10 - Major & Minor Builds
11:43 - Early Minor Patches
13:00 - "Secret" Early Updates
14:40 - Should You Join?
15:15 - Leaving the Insider Program
16:41 - How to Join
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They don't seem to be able to gather much info, my main email only shows 13 results all saying joined in September or October of this year, even showing me as joining steam in September of this year when i know i had my steam account since just after the launch of Left 4 Dead 2. So I have no idea how useful it really is but i do know I've used my email on a lot more than what's showing up
@@c.rosenfeld all mine does is send an email asking them to remove your info.. they will respond with the way they have it set up for you to do this yourself on who
evers site .. mine is a complete waste of time....
I’m stuck on the Delta ring for Xbox. Is there any way to get to the alpha skip ahead?
"If you're watching this video you used a computer before"
That was so good😂😂😂
phones and tablets: am i a joke to you?
Nice video! The reason patch Tuesday is on Tuesday... you push things out early in the week, so they have time to bake... never release right before the weekend, just in case 😂 With the internal rings, you still get 100K+ Microsoft users depending on the scenario, so decent amount of testing/validation before it hits external users with dev/beta/release.
YOUR here nice ot see two big tech channels in the same place
@@swirly_1 bhxhbvx, , vat kari to the, vxvuhhh
Huhh
I regret choosing the dev Channel
hi kevin
I've used all the different channels on Windows Insiders over the years and haven't found any horrendous problems, even on the Dev Channel. I've now settled back in to the regular Windows 11 build (the Outsiders Channel. if you will) which is probably an indication of how satisfied I am with the new operating system: nothing jars, it matches my needs perfectly, its easy to use and is aesthetically pleasing (which Windows 10 wasn't, in my view.) Thanks for another fluent, info rich video, Thio. Always a pleasure to listen to you.
Same, the biggest errors I had were in the first dev release of windows 11 but there weren't horrendous
Same here, I've been an Insider for 6 of the last 7 years havin' fun with the new O.S.s with no really notable issues during that time.
I haven't had any major issues in the Dev channel so far either.
There definitely were some annoyances, but these would often get addressed in the next build or two.
What in god's name is an Outsiders channel, never heard of it.
@@mindrover777 a clever wordplay
We are now the beta testers. Here's why: Microsoft changed testing processes significantly in the past few years. Back in 2014/2015, Microsoft employed an entire team that was dedicated to testing the operating system, builds, updates, drivers, and other code. The team consisted of multiple groups that would run tests and discuss bugs and issues in daily meetings. The teams ran the tests on "real" hardware in a lab through automated testing.
Microsoft has since laid off almost the entire Windows Test team. The company moved most of the testing to virtual machines and this meant that tests were no longer conducted on real and diverse hardware configurations. The main sources of testing data comes from Windows Telemetry and Windows Insiders. We are all beta testers now.
Thanks for the time stamps. I still watched the whole thing but saved to watch later in case I need to refresh my memory
One more difference between the Dev and Beta Channel is that the Dev builds are usually timebombed. This means that the Dev builds will stop working after a certain date.
so if you don't update you cant boot?
Why ?
So that's why dev program doesn't have an iso download. Only beta and preview channel
@@Animeso it actually only restart your computer after 2 hours🤓
@@Animeso after two weeks, yes.
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Was just about to search this!!
Have used Mine before, must say they're great!!💪🏻
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I have a couple of spare PCs that I use for the Windows Insider program, one on DEV and one on Beta. The DEV channel is more fun since new stuff shows up. Microsoft is smart to do this. They get people to work for them for free.
Been on Dev channel for years, apart from minor glitches its been a fun experience.
How about doing an inplace upgrade of the same Windows version after ticking off insider preview updates, will that get you out of preview build?
Another thing to consider is that you will want to keep all your data like video, pictures, etc. on a separate folder or drive than the default Windows folders. It should be outside Windows so that if you have to reinstall Windows you won't have to move that data around. You will likely have to reinstall the programs you're using though.
Good evening Joe, hope you are doing well, I always listen to your opinion and instructions on how to get more stable versions of windows or updates, I upgraded my PC from windows 7 I reached 10 pro versions 21H1 OS build 19043,1348 and recently started walkthrough fast insider programs and I loved the early fast updates that they offer that transfer information technology to faraway dimensions for how future would be, please advice was to organize my steps to find clean fast updates, I, as I said, made a Microsoft email and join and organisation groups that I did not upgrade updates more the version I mentioned, then I started some windows debloats to hold on my horses and to close automated updates and to do updates manually, so what's your recommendations in my situation, your recommendation is highly appreciated.
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I joined the insider's program a week ago on my Optiplex 9020 after upgrading from windows 10 2015 to 18 and later that day, to 20H2. Great updates. Thio, can I upgrade to Win 11. Cause its telling me that my PC can't handle Windows 11
thanks for the Mine link, it's actually really easy to use, any average joe (no pun intended) can use this.
I would love to see an updated video which covers the new Canary channel and the updated Dev channel.
Good video, with good clear guidance. I joined Dev channel today not realising I couldn't go back. However, I managed to go back to Beta channel by clicking on "System recovery go back". I should say I upgraded to windows 11 on 16th February. I then extended "go back" to 60 days. However, I have just checked and "go back" is no longer an option, meaning I can no longer go back to Windows 10, but luckily I was able to come out of Dev channel without a fresh re-install. so good advice from you, be very sure you want to go on Dev channel before doing so.
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I've been in the insider program since 2014 and submitted alot of feedback and tested Windows 10 on some test desktops, laptops. I've ran into a few installation issues when a new build comes out. It's part of the fun of being in the program but it's not for everyone. I've read feedback where people have joined the program and put their production PCs in the program. Not very smart.
Yeah I always get those secret ones xd
I also put the Preview updates and everything's been good so far :)
I'm a developer, but there's no way I would be able to use any of the insider versions of Windows because I want to make sure that my applications run on the versions that end users are most likely to have. Good video, Joe!
As a dev, don't u have more than one computer system? 🤔
@@pythondrink I have three computers: a Dell desktop, a Dell laptop and a MacBook Pro
@@snarkykat so that means u could get into Windows Insider Program if u wanted to but that's all up to u
@@pythondrink I decided not to enroll in the insider program because I would feel more comfortable trying out early versions of a Windows release on a virtual machine. But, that also means that another license for Windows has to be purchased. Sure, they can be obtained cheaper than the official price of $200 for Windows 10 Pro, but that seems a little dodgy to me.
@@snarkykat great. It's all good for u 👍
Hmm, I was on the dev channel but was able to roll back to the stable version and then change to the release candidate channel.
Don't think you can entirely get out of the Insider program once your install is enrolled, however.
I play my high spec games and work 9 hours a day in my lap, I already had 2 crashes after I updated to Windows 11. So should I go for it? or just play it safe?
Hello. I upgraded to a clean windows 11 pro on one
1. AMD FX8350.
2. asus sabertooth 990fx r1.0
3. Asus xonar hdav 1.3 deluxe.
Everything worked fine.
win 11 does not feel slower than a win 10 but almost the opposite.
I had to turn off the TPM. In regedit but it was very easy as long as you follow a video on youtube or a website instruction.
I have not had any problems receiving win11 updates?
If you ask me, win 11 does not look any nicer than a win 10 but the opposite. Unfortunately it goes in that direction.
Same with microsoft paint as they updated but without adding anything new. They only made it more white and boring.
Thanks this is really helpful.
I finally got around to building a new computer. My old computer has an
AMD 8350FX and a EVGA 1080 ti with Windows 7. The new build has an AMD
RYZEN 9 5950x and a EVGA 3090 FTW Ultra. The motherboard is an ASUS
ROG Crosshair VIII Dark Hero. My question is should I install Windows
10 or 11? For what it's worth I do have access to Windows Insiders
Program and downloaded both OS iso's. So I would be going from Windows 7
to Windows 10 or 11. I guess I could install both on separate NVME
or USB drives. Any suggestions would be appreciated. Thanks
Thanks ThioJoe, was looking for such a tutorial! I have a question... You said that the Dev channel isn't stable and might break some parts. But would it harm our PC if we install the ISO file on a Virtual Machine? I have already installed the beta version of Windows 11 on a VM and it is stable.
And also if I opt into the Dev channel, download the ISO and install it on a Virtual Machine, will I still be able to download the beta version ISO later onwards?? Like if I download the Dev ISO of Windows 11 and install it on VMware, still I will be able to get the Windows 11 beta version ISO file??
Go ahead install it on a vm, but join with a different Microsoft account
ive been installing earlier preview builds for quite some time without me knowing
probably not gonna do that anymore
I joined beta channel 3 months ago and I encounter some bugs so I levead WIP last week and all of the bugs in the beta build .194 are still on my stable builds (kinda what?)bugs bugs bugs are the bugs will be removed? in the future updates?
Love your wallpaper!
Thiojoe please do what will happen if u set every registry key values to 0.
I did the dev build and its been pretty good
This video is a great explanation 👍 Respect This Guy here
Thankx , Thio did try "Mine" , only 4 , and these . very basic ! Reclaimed one only .
Did they fix the explorer memory leak yet?
Auto HDR sounds great, and looking forward to gpu direct storage... and AMD fixing the scheduler issue...
There is actually a way to leave the dev channel which is basically waiting for a window to switch from dev channel to beta channel and than switching. Then when you changed from the dev channel to the beta channel you can click on the unenroll option in the beta channel
Hey Thiojoe are you gonna do a video on the new iPhones because they have a lot of changes.
I would highly recommend joining it on some laptop you don't use much or Virtual Machine. A lot of issues can occur and ruin your experience on your main machine. Since Windows 11 is fully out there isn't really a reason to join the insider preview at this point.
8 Y/o me watching this after installing Windows 11 Dev Build on my Dad's office laptop:
I N T E R E S T I N G
Oh no. You'll get beaten hard if your dad knows its a beta. LOL
I upgraded windows 110 pro pre release build and this hour makes it one week I am unable to get the monitor to respond on my surface pro x... I've checked the drivers. How do I address this? No response form Microsoft yet.
I'm in the beta channel (the currently best version for Win11 imo) and the worst I got was *gasp* slightly buggy titlebar coloring on the new versions for the explorer and task manager that got fixed with the next update.
Hey can you help me I just turn my C drive folder to download folder do you know how to change it back
I would've liked to see you mention the privacy concerns of using Insider builds. Good video overall, though.
Great bro.... I like it
Love from india 😍
I'm in dev channel since the beginning and the latest latest latest update fixed nearly all my problems 🥺 I had big big problems
im constantly green screening with beta and i cant leave it, help
How about partitioning your ssd?
Partition 1: Normal edition install
Partition 2: Beta install
Partition 3: Important data
Very useful 👍
Is there a way to enable the canary channel?
You get a custom Win11-themed wallpaper if you were an insider! Love the new design
Good timing with the Ryzen L3 Cache issue being fixed in the most recent Win 11 Release Preview build.
I guess that could be a good reason to join, just to get the fix early.
@@AndersHass Pretty much, I'm on the Release Preview build already because I have a 3900x, it's definitely fixed the issue. I was on all the Insider Dev builds for Windows 11 since the first one though, so it's nothing foreign to me personally.
I have been using the dev channel for a few months and I only blue screened once and that was because I was running Minecraft and forgot to install my 2nd stick of RAM so I only had 8GB and because of that, my OC was running slow and I had multiple apps in the background so the 8GB RAM wasn't enough.
Been a member of the insider program since 2017.
You didn't face problems!??
You didn't face any problem??
Im not able to leave the dev channel without having to do a clean reset install. is there a way that I can leave the dev channel without losing data?
please make a tutorial video about How to Create a Universal Windows 10 and 11 AIO Installation in one single Wim file? thnx
The only thing I want from the insider program is Unicode Emoji 13, something which should really already be full release but won't be until some time next year
do i need to rollback to windows 10 for gaming?
I can download Insider, but microsoft store says can't run on this device
I have installed a win insider program pre release after this cen i get stable windows 11 update without clean install...
I was an insider for windows 7, that was very impressive. I was an insider for windows 10 and there was a build where it removed half the letters on the screen, it went weird. Very funny.
And I'm on the xbox insider programme, kinda normal but some lovely animated backgrounds
Can I go back from Dev to Beta without reset?
I just join it when i want an update that clearly is already ready for release like the amd cache fix and then drop back out, btw i have that thing you setup on usb but as network boot instead for my self, so i can do all kind of things just by network booting, including making a image of my boot drive and storing it directly on my nas all automated more or less, so i could go to a dev build and rollback 30 days later instead of doing a clean install.
Howdy ThioJoe, I have a brand new M1 MacBook Pro, I've been trying to install windows. I've registered for the insider program but there's no windows previously installed on my Mac that I should update. How can I install windows 11Arm64 or 10 Arm64 on a brand new M1 Mac? Thanks in advance
A ISO should be available on Microsoft’s website
My processor doesn't support Windows 11, but I installed it by joining Windows Insider programme. But Microsoft announcing that it will not give Windows Updates(even security) on unsupported machines have frustrated me. I have continued Windows 11 Insider membership even after Windows 11 October release in hope of getting continuous updates. And to my surprise, I am still getting it. Do these insider updates include security updates too? Should unsupported processors wanting to try Windows 11 join Insider programme to keep getting security updates???
Don't think so but not sure
Thanks i picked up what you layed down
Is say mine in the list to get your data removed?
Aaaaaah finally I know what the 'canary' thing is all about lol If they had let me use my secondary machine I would be interested but it's an unsupprted device so I let it be. BTW you are so knowledgeable I always learn new stuff here.
Why do many companies do update on a Tuesday? 🤔
Beta channel might be good way of getting ahead of future problems if you have mission critical pcs
I am using Dev and can someone answer why I am still downloading windows 10 Insider preview instead of having windows 11.
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Thanks 😊
Surprised you did not did a docker video yet, altho it may be little bit to much for you unless you already experienced with linux
Hello I have been in the Windows Insider program since June. i want to get the original version of the windows 11 is POSIBLE
If you are in the Dev channel and you want to get the official release, you need first to get out of the WIndows Insider program by clean installing Windows 10 (if you are in the beta/release preview channel, just choose the option to opt out of the program once the major release is there). Then you can try to upgrade to Windows 11 via Windows 11 Installation Assistant or Windows Update if the upgrade came through Windows Update.
It isn't worth it if you value stability. I've tried being an insider a bunch of times over the years as I like being an early adopter. I finally had enough of it last year with all the prerelease bugs that really screwed my system up. I'm content to just wait until the bugs are all fixed AFTER the final release comes out and MS decides to finally fix the bugs that were there in the prerelease version. I haven't even tried Windows 11 yet, I'm going to wait for bug fixes for a few months.
That's wise. Those guys should actually pay those, who test their software.
How to get ride of dev Channel... ?
release preview shouldnt really be bad tho, right? I assume it'll be almost exactly as stabl as the final version.
Also, I will only switch to 11 when windows 10 "EoL"s in 2025
I am in desperate need of help! I had a very old laptop for almost a year and when I came back to windows 10 I was shocked and frustrated that they changed chrome THAT MUCH. I missed the old chrome that I knew in around 2019-2020. But I don't know which version had that design and I can't search for ways to restore THAT version of chrome. Could anyone help me?
Don't use Chrome altogether. Use brave or the alternative you might not like-edge. Also firefox with a few mods or opera gx
Yes,i will JOIN the Windows insider program NOW!
I never had any problems with the Dev channel. Heck every time i noticed some bug in the dev channel it would just make its way to the official public release anyway. Sometimes the dev builds fix problems that the public channel introduced so the so called tradeoff is more than worth it
my computer is Edition Windows 10 Pro
Version 21H1
Installed on 10/6/2021
OS build 19043.1586
Experience Windows Feature Experience Pack 120.2212.4170.0
so many people i'm subscribed too keep uploading 😅
Yes 😛
joined dev mode for windows 11 couple months ago
Ive been living life on the Edge for years running dev on my main laptop. Never had a mission failure in over 2 years specifically due to windows. its at the most 15 min o fixing things.
I using the dev Channel version since months
So... Windows codename is in which "step"?
(Yes. Something like whistler, longhorn, threshold 1)
one video on windows 10 feature which is not available in windows 11
one thing good i did, im dualbooting windows 11 and windows 11 dev channel, so it's good
Beauty 🥳🥳 🧡🙏🏼
Hey you were right canary channel is now available for public
The only dev beta which was stable was only Apple beta as the windows beta was unstable and had to move to stable version of windows 11
My friend convinced me to download this, and after it expired, my pc is broken broken, and i can reset, but i loose all my apps :(
Your videos give more meaning to my life lol
I had to reinstall the windows just because of joining the insider preview channel, there are a lot of bugs!
Thanks
i always use Dev channel for my personal computer. and it works fine.... most of the time.
is it good for gaming or no
See you when this video gets popular.
Hey man can you help me out, I’ve encounter this Windows Boot Manager and I can’t seem to get out the error code is 0xc0000225 I can’t access my desktop im stuck in it.
Use that to look up help on the web. Or contact MS Support.
Idk
Hello. can anyone explain this to me? I installed win 11 on unsupported hardware and turned off TPM in regedit. I chose that I do not have a license code.
now win11 shows that windows is activated.
I have not activated win 11
It is a good bug. Keep it