I loved how you went through the story - did you seriously complete it with exactly zero seconds left, or was that set up for the video? :D Prince was definitely a huge influence on Tomb Raider - it’s odd that I didn’t really notice at the time. And both games slowly turn evil and insane as they go on - Prince with its weird unpredictable magic, Tomb Raider with its hideous emaciated bone creatures and flesh walls
Hi David, thank you so much, and thank you for watching! Haha, I must admit that I did that for dramatic effect! 😅 But it was close to the truth. I entered Level 12B (where the ceiling tiles fall down on the Prince) with 2 minutes left on the clock. Then I went to the screen just before Jaffar, and waited until there were about 20 seconds left. I had actually hoped I could hit the "1 Second Left"-mark, but... oh well. That's a really good point, I hadn't even thought about that! Both games do indeed become progressively more bizarre.
When I first played Prince of Persia, I immediately noticed the run, careful step, catch-and-hang, and spike death animations were almost identical to Tomb Raider. So was the fucking difficulty.
I am confused, I always thought (due to your voice) you are younger then me, but I am 39 and you rocked PoP so early. Probs are sent and I love your channel!
Haha, I get that a lot! I have a very boyish voice, for some reason, but I'm 34! 😅 A friend of mine suggested that my microphone makes me sound younger than I am. Thank you so much man, I really appreciate it!
Haha! I'm just having a little fun with her cutscenes. She goes from looking anxious to not-that-bothered-about-it rather quickly though, doesn't she? 😉 In her defense, she actually can talk with mice. That's pretty cool.
@@AxMania In the 360 & iOS versions of the remake, she (as portrayed by Farah from Sands of Time but in purple instead of red) even looks bored when she lies on her bed watching the hourglass and even does her hair in one cutscene to pass the time if I remember right.
I first played PoP on a Nokia Ngage (it was a port). It was an instant hit because I was looking for a side scrolling game like tombraider on Ngage. This brought back so many memories, thank you for the video!
Welcome back! 🤩 I remember playing PoP on the school's IBM (yes I'm old, shut up), but I could never finish it, because I sucked at swordfight and the guard kept killing me 😭 Old games were so difficult, nowdays you get an achievement for just making it through the main menu 🤣
There's really a lot of parallels between PoP and TR. The movement is very similar with requiring running jumps, and how the level layout is tile based so you can easily judge distances. Carefully dropping down heights by grabbing a ledge is also similar. And of course the common deathtrap of falling into spikes. You could even say that the mirror prince is similar to bacon Lara in concept.
Same! I grew up playing Prince of Persia too and then when I first played Tomb Raider I fell in love with it and always read it as a 3D transposition of PoP. Great video, as always!
As a 5 yo I never got past level 3... these chompers were just too much for me. Even now I reflexively start to sweat when I hear the characteristic sound. Such effective game design!
Oh, yeah! Such a primordial piece of art! It's amazing how they achieved to simulate realistic movements, despite the fact that they were just starting to develop multi-platform games. Also, look at all that 8 bit gore. Isn't that cute? Me likey that. Missed you, Alex! See you next time.
Wonderful video. I grew up on Flashback, we had it for the AMIGA and it's still one of my all time favorite games of all time. I know younger players probably find the controls frustrating because they want to be able to turn around on a dime. But once you start thinking about the controls, not as split second maneuvers and more about buffering inputs and seeing the patterns, you actually fall in love with the heaviness of it all. When I played TR as a kid, coming off Flashback, it felt like second nature. Because I knew the game wasn't about looking before you leap, it was actually the opposite. Planning your next move. As a kid, I loved this because it meant that my reactions didn't matter as much as long as I was paying attention and could buffer the buttons. It's so fuckjng rewarding
Thank you so much! I bought the 25th Anniversary Edition of Flashback for PS4 a few months ago, so I plan on playing it soon. I just adore the graphics of that game, and I'm of course on board with that style of gameplay as well. The way these cinematic platformers (and Tomb Raider) make you carefully maneuver a character, makes them so much more immersive, as it feels more "dangerous" to play them, in a way.
That was super fun😃I would love to see you cover more games beside TR. The only Prine Of Persia I have ever played was Sands Of Time and I remember liking it. Now I really want to look into some more games of this franchise.
Thank you! 😃 I think you'll love the Prince of Persia games! They are very easy to get into as a Tomb Raider fan. I've always kind of felt that Prince of Persia and Tomb Raider were "cousins" or something 😅 The Prince of Persia games are also very different from each other, so they are quite fun to explore.
Great video 👍 for sure Prince of Persia inspired TR for being what it is today. I think I played that game on the gameboy (if I’m not mistaken) but unfortunately never finished. Shame that it’s been 13 years since the last one but yeah Assasins Creed is taking the franchise’s spot. Hopefully we’ll see it back to the mainstream soon. 👊
Thanks man! 😎 Haha, that's awesome! Of course there's a Gameboy port as well, this game was on every single platform it seems. Yeah, it's a real shame. The next Assassin's Creed looks VERY Prince of Persia however, as it's set in the Middle-East 😎
Even though I did never play PoP, it was very interesting to watch your video and your experiences, I really enjoy your style of video making. I was born too late to enjoy PoP, but I was right in time to rock TR at least. 💪🏼🤗
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! I'm very happy that it was enjoyable to watch, even without having played it - and such an old game as well.
Excellent video. Thank you! I was surprised to see the reference to Broken Sword 1:31 I thought that was a pretty niche game. I'm not a fan of the Broken Sword series, but it was mildly entertaining. I only checked it out because I love conspiracy/occult stuff, which Tomb Raider dabbles in as well.
Thank you very much! Haha, I love the first two Broken Sword games. I especially played the second game a lot. Yeah, they actually have some themes in common.
I played Tomb Raider and this one as a kid. Yes, they definitely have lots in common. Prince of Persia i never beat as a child. Good reminder to try my luck as an adult again...
That's absolutely true. In fact, I own a 1999's magazine about the first three TRs, which corroborates all your opinions! The magazine also lists as TR inspirations: Flashback, Fade to black, Tenchu and Oddworld. 🤩Great job, as always!
Ohh, that's interesting! I would love to have seen that magazine myself. I don't know Fade to Black, but Tenchu makes total sense, as well as Flashback and Oddworld of course, since they also were inspired by Prince of Persia. Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! 🥰
I think all people "our age" have come in contact with Prince of Persia at one point. It's one of those games that was just everywhere. Same with the Shareware version of Wolfenstein 3D, from my experience. Level 3 is really hard! It's probably the second or third hardest level.
Assassin's Creed was originally a spin-off about the Prince's bodyguards, who were assassins. The idea was rejected because it was a PoP game that didn't focus on the Prince, so it was made into its own game/series. There were concept artworks of it, showing things like the now-iconic Hidden Blade and what looks like a teamwork mechanic like that of AC Brotherhood.
I have played it on a 286X with a black&white CRT monitor, amongst Streed Rod and California Games. I'm not sure when did I had it, maybe around '93-'94. Those first PC games that I had have still a huge influence on me. Awesom period for unique and cool games. Thanks for the video and keep up the good work! ;)
Haha, there were so many interesting ports for this game! I don't even know what a 286X is 😅 I agree completely, those first PC games I played in the 90's left an enormous impression on me. Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! It's a little difficult to get into, because of the sort of "weighted" controls (or physics), but it's so much fun when you get the hang of it 😉 Yeah, I played Warrior Within as well! It was a really cool game, and a much darker take on Prince of Persia, if I remember correctly.
@@AxMania Warrior Within is a masterpiece! It's so dark with all these interiors, time-switching puzzles and hard rock OST! I absolutely love it! Meanwhile The Sands of Time and The Two Thrones made no impression to me at all - I really don't know why.
@@LSweetMari Yeah, it was such an edgy game, I still remember the main theme ("I Stand Alone", so badass! 😎). It's funny, I don't remember ANYTHING from The Two Thrones, at all, but I do love The Sands of Time. The weird 2008 "reboot", or whatever it was, is excellent as well, but it's a quite strange game compared to the rest, and it's not even set in Persia.
Thank you so much for your kind words, and for watching, Suzanne! 🥰 I'm very happy that you enjoyed the video, despite it being about an ancient relic like this, haha!
i never reached level 2, because our school didn't had the manual for the game. We had that game on all of our very old PCs back then in 2000/2001 my school. So i always got stuck at the copy protection room with all that letter potions. Back then,we had no access internet and me at home or any of my friends in school neither. I still remember the monotone internal PC speaker sound of that game, because our school didn't had real speakers
Ah, yes! Our old DOS computer didn't have real speakers either, so I didn't experience Prince of Persia, Wolfenstein 3D and so on with their actual sounds until years later, haha!
As I remember, the protagonist is not a prince of Persia in the beginning, he's a traveller who got caught up in the local turmoil. He becomes the prince by winning the hand of the princess.
Did I play Prince of Persia? No. But since I love ur videos I still watched it :D also you have a really relaxing voice which makes it so easy to listen to... Keep up with the great work! 😊
PoP was one of the first videogames I've ever seen, my dad showed it to me at work, years before we had any computer at home. I remember him demostrating the strategy for killing guards, sheating his sword to let the enemy get close and then quickly unsheathe and stab :D I've tried to play it maybe a few times in my life but never seriously (i.e. getting maybe to the second level?) but I've seen a lot of it by others playing, so I knew about many of these things that PoP and TR have in common already that you showed here, but not all. It's definitely cool to see it all listed! Also it's funny, it actually took me a long time to understand TR's grid system (I didn't speak English back then so Lara's explanations in the gym didn't help), so I had both "this thing in PoP is like in TR" and "this thing in TR is like in PoP" realizations over time :D I wonder if I'd be able to play it competently nowadays, the time limit would probably stress me out a lot though, just like it did any time I tried...
Seriously, I think you should give it another try! That's what I did. It felt almost cathartic to finally conquer this childhood demon! 😂 It's a fantastic game, and it's surprisingly easy to get in to for a Tomb Raider fan, because it uses those similar maneuvering mechanics. The time limit is super stressful, but the more you try, you'll be able to pass levels so quickly that the first 6 levels or so are over in very little time, which gives you a lot of time to deal with the more time-consuming levels 7-9. Go for it, I think you'd enjoy it! 😃
I must say, I could always clearly see the resemblance between the two franchises, but my pov was influenced by the later releases, just never connected the dots and thought of TR being the one grasping inspiration from PoP since it has first entered my life with the release of the trilogy in 2006, and I was never made aware of the games that were released prior to the 2003-2006 trilogy. I also dearly love PoP's 2008 era. I remember the majority being immensely disappointed with the game, and all the stark changes that it has offered, but all I recall is stunning, separating it from other games (at the time) visuals, vibrant colours, fluid gameplay and story that I did not at all understand cause at the young age of 12 I still had no knowledge of the English language whatsoever 🤣. Lovely vid ! 😊😊
Haha, I've always felt that the Prince of Persia and Tomb Raider series were game franchise "cousins" or something 🤣 I agree completely, the 2008 "reboot", or whatever it was, was amazing. It's also a very unique game, since it's set in a sort of fantasy world that isn't really Persia-inspired. I would really like to play through it again, very soon.
Ah, Prince of Persia. Love the series. Never completed it most of them (only finished Sands of Time, Two Thrones and 2008). And I did noticed the similarities between the two series. Which is probably why I'm one of the few who actually liked Prince of Persia 3D (if only it was less buggy and the controls weren't so delayed. Hell, the (very underrated) GBC Tomb Raider games do kinda feel similar to Prince of Persia. I remember when I was a kid, reading previews of an upcoming Tomb Raider clone from Activision called "Beneath" which looked amazing and was dismayed when it was quietly cancelled.
I want to play through the entire series from start to finish, like I've done with the Tomb Raider games. The Prince of Persia games span a huge chunk of video game history, so their evolution and various iterations are really interesting. I just googled Beneath. It looks so cool, almost like a very early Uncharted game, or something. What a shame it was cancelled, I'm sure I would've loved it.
I always could see this connection of inspiration betwwen the two and I was in love with warrior within at some point. I even remeber i was thinking back then.. ohh it'd be so cool if tomb raider had some of this movement mechanics :D I wasn't aware though of how far back the link goes !! this was so intresting to watch and see that!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! Yeah, it's funny, back in the day, I always thought of Prince of Persia and Tomb Raider as "cousins" 😃 They just feel related, somehow.
Great video, it brought back a lot of fond memories. Don't know if this video was a one off or not, but if you wanted to cover more of the older games that inspired Tomb Raider, I for one would love it. To answer your question about why the player character doesn't look Persian, it's because he isn't. Nor is he a prince, at least not during the course of the game. If I recall correctly from either the instruction manual or the back of the box, he's supposed to be an adventurer from a foreign land, whom the princess fell in love with due to his bravery. Jaffar imprisoned him merely out of jealousy and spite. The title of the game refers not to who the player character currently is, but who he will become should he succeed in rescuing the princess.
Thank you so much, I'm very happy to hear that! I'd love to do a lot more videos about all sorts of old weird video games, especially DOS video games and stuff. Ohhh, that's very interesting! I had no idea! It's funny, because in most other ports, the Prince actually looks persian (well, stereotypically persian, that is), whereas very few versions have this very caucasian representation of him. That's a very good point about the title of the game, I should've caught that, haha!
@@AxMania Yeah, they definitely downplayed the foreigner aspect in later ports, if not retconned it outright. But I'll always remember him in his original, weirdly blond incarnation. lol
Omg this was such a sweet little video, truly a love letter of some sort! I really love Prince of Persia, both as a concept/idea (especially the setting of Persia) ànd as games! I have played the first four games many times in my childhood (or attempted to play would be more fair to say haha), so I have many sweet memories associated with it (but also a lot of memories of insane struggles xD). Strangely enough, or in my case it is so very fitting, I really liked the Angel of Darkness of this franchise: Prince of Persia 3D (because of its story, unique atmospheres/'feel', and music), but the original holds a special place in my heart as well (apart from The Sands of Time, for obvious reasons). Like yourself, I never finished it though, and in the second one I could never find my way out of the caves with the flying carpet, so the only thing I could do was replaying the first few levels over and over again :( Cool New Year's wish by the way to play the first one again and this time to also beat it! I have a similar long-term goal for the games after The Sands of Time... Prince of Persia definitely influenced Tomb Raider, apart from Indiana Jones of course. Then much later on, out of development for Prince of Persia arose the first Assassin's Creed game (and thereby that series). I really like single-player action-adventure games ((more) puzzle-driven and/or (more) story-driven), so having more unique video game series in this genre existing next to each other would be ideal in my eyes - this is why I'm hoping PoP will make its way back to us some day (hopefully soon!). By the way, _I Finished A Video Game_ (RUclips channel) has made an retrospective on the entire Prince of Persia series, which is a great watch! I recommend it to anyone that is even slightly interested in PoP; even if you have not played the games, it is really interesting.
Thank you so much, I'm very happy to hear that you enjoyed it! I want to do a complete Prince of Persia series ranking some day, so I need to complete Prince of Persia 3D as well, which indeed seems to be the black sheep 😃 I played it for some hours as a kid, and it never really clicked for me back then, but I should probably give it another go. Haha, you really should try and complete the first game, it's very satisfying to do so! It's such a good game, still, after all these years. I would've loved the game even if I hadn't grown up with it, I'm sure. I agree, I hope Prince of Persia will be back (for good) some day. Right now, I'm a little bit excited about the next Assassin's Creed game, as it's set in the Middle-East, which makes it feel even more Prince of Persia-like. Even though I'm kind of sick and tired of Ubisoft open-world games - and open-world games in general, even. Ohh, that sounds interesting, thank you for the recommendation! I'll check that out.
Prince of Persia was actually the second game j ever played, except it was the Warrior Within and the sands of time, the first being TR Anniversary. Glad to be getting a cover of another favourite :)
@AxMania Yes, it had tons of more demonic enemies and swearing, which 5 year old me didnt understand as my english was nonexistent, but i know j shouldnt have been playing it when i did 😭. The Two Thrones was my next game, and suprisingly i got really close to beating it. Loved it way more too
One of the best, PoP was my addiction as a kid. Had a pirate copy for my Brother's old Amiga and never realised the potions were DRM until watching retrospectives decades later. Makes it even more impressive that my Dad managed to get to the end once. Also, glad to see another video, this channel is always a lot of fun and keeps me going sometimes. If you have the time and patience a Deathtrap Dungeon retrospective might be fun, especially since it was predicted to be a smash hit until Tomb Raider came out and annihilated all hype for the game. Either that or Rick Dangerous... or La-Mulana... for reasons... okay now I'm being greedy lol
The Amiga version is basically the same as the DOS version, right? I think I played the Amiga version at a friend's house, way back. Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! I don't know those games, but I'd like to check them out! Rick Dangerous sounds familiar, that's a Pitfall-like game, right? Haha, keep 'em coming! I want to cover many more old school games.
@@AxMania Oh Shadow Man is awesome, remember hearing they directly copied medical examples of diseased flesh for environmental textures lol, need to play it again.
Have this on master system & mega drive. Was hard but classic, I do remember a slight delay when holding jump (like Tomb Raider) The modern xbox/PS2 trilogy (in particular twin thrones) were great too.
Heh, I remember playing it at school, not being able to get anywhere :D my first game I actually progressed through somehow was Team17's Superfrog for Amiga :)
You make a good case, though of course it's not the only inspiration when there's Indiana dealing with similar traps (and being a tomb raider himself). There's another similarity, Laura has timed sequences to open a door and have to speed through a death gauntlet before it seals again. Luckily there isn't a time limit to complete the game/level itself, so we can feel at ease to stroll about, admire the atmosphere, and look for secrets. Prince of Persia (DOS) has been a favorite of mine since it came out, though it took me until 2012 to actually get to level 9 with time enough to go on and kill Jafar, though that last reflection puzzle stumped me a while. Now I still need to replay and finish PoP2 - I got to the flame long ago (which I understand was pretty close), but couldn't figure the counter intuitive way to progress (the reflection puzzle of that game). So many cool moments in that sequel though.
Very good point. I guess Indiana Jones is the thematic inspiration, and Prince of Persia the gameplay inspiration. I would love to play through the sequel as well, the graphics are gorgeous in that game! I would actually really like to dive deeper into the Prince of Persia series, and complete all of the games. There's still a few of them I haven't played yet.
Do you have any other recommendations for games like classic Tomb Raider? Surprisingly, no one really ever copied classic Tomb Raider's style of puzzle based exploration which a large emphasis on precise, third person platforming despite how famous it is. Even the newer Tomb Raiders have a very different design philosophy and opted for more of an combat focus with an emphasis on more linear levels and cinematic storytelling
Indiana Jones & The Infernal Machine feels like a classic Tomb Raider game actually! I'm playing through it for the first time myself right now. It's a bit more stiff and clunky in its' controls, but it feels like a Tomb Raider clone. There's also a great little indy game called Treasures of the Aegean that feels very much like Tomb Raider, even if it's a 2D-game. Yeah, the newer Tomb Raider games don't resemble classic Tomb Raider at all :(
It is very hard to convey to newer generations how a classic game remains great despite advancements being made to every aspect of production since then. These classic titles were influential and laid the groundwork for other artists to build off of. But to the unaided eye, it can feel dated today. Those who grew up with the classics have a level of appreciation that easily gets missed by people who are fresh to the scene. To the oldie, it's value is self-evident and requires no explanation. To the newie, the later Prince of Persia is denser in entertainment, is more accessible, provides shorter gaps between puzzle-solving gratification, has three meaty dimensions, and is on a more modern platform ergo better. I love AoD but noticed in recent years the game is heavily inspired thematically and plot-wise by popular games and movies. It's like an amalgamation of bits that worked well in other successful franchises. Which is sad. I like to think the games are unique nuggets of brilliance. But whatever they're still great.
Agree with everything here. What's interesting about Prince of Persia is, that I often go back and play games from my childhood, and often my appreciation for them is solely nostalgic, but Prince of Persia is a legimately good game, that I thoroughly enjoy playing, and that I think I would've enjoyed playing even if I hadn't grown up with it. It's just a fantastic game, old or not.
I had no idea prince of persia had series. I remember playing the rooftops one in 8:53 cant remember its name. I didnt finish it, it was difficult. Now looking at this video I can see the disturbing deaths and I cant help but wonder how they did that with the few pixels they had... incredible. Yeah, game developers seemed to like the spikes and shark teeth doors and platforms back then.
That's Prince of Persia 2, which I would also love to try and complete some day. Hahaha, indeed! Whoever invented spike traps must've gotten rich off of them in those years 😂
Yeah there's no way TR wasn't inspired at least in some way by PoP! I've tried to get into the first one, from the PS2 extra feature from Sands of Time, but could not tolerate that jump delay, lol!
I think when creating TR6 they were inspired by PoP 1, because the most difficult thing there is just movement) At one time I was very impressed with the PoP WW game because of the soundtrack, but I always didn’t like something in these games .. More precisely, how the prince moves , his model seems to be tied to all objects, it’s hard to just jump high, or turn exactly in the right direction. And Lara's model among the cubes seems to move more freely, so her movements look cool even with the first-person view patch.
Yeah, that's a very good point. I definitely think Tomb Raider was inspired by the Prince's movement, but the transition to 3D made it so much more fluid and "free", like you said. It's definitely more polished, because Lara isn't stuck to the grid like the Prince is.
the mouse saving you is not if you screw up, it's a mandatory part, you always get trapped in there. Also, you skipped the leap of faith jumps on level 3 with the off screen tile on the top right side, and with a timed gate, hardest part of the game so far. Also, you are playing version 1.0 of DOS port, since the 1.1 version, has the golden look for level 12, much nicer than the generic blue of the dungeons.
I beg to differ regarding the mouse: ruclips.net/video/ruw81L7aXCs/видео.html I don't think I skipped anything on level 3? I showed the three choppers and the large health potion in my video, which is in that part of the level. I also did the long section with the standing jumps, running jumps, and run towards the timed gate, which I did show the end of in my video. Otherwise, I'm not sure what part you mean. Didn't know that! I played the version I grew up with though.
Lara Croft was for me a mix between Indianer Jones and james Bond, but Prince of Persia seems really has to be many parallels. And the latest Tomb Raider triology is inspired from Uncharted I think. Very cool video. My love for video games began with Commander Keen. :)
Oh yes, absolutely! I agree. It's funny how Prince of Persia inspired Tomb Raider, then Tomb Raider inspired Prince of Persia, then Prince of Persia inspired Tomb Raider AGAIN (Sands of Time > Legend), and then somehow Ubcharted came and took over. Thank you! ☺️ Haha, so did I! I loved all those Commander Keen games so much. I think 4 was my favorite.
yes! i was 5-6 years old and i was too scary and...well... too stupid yet to finish this game. my father did it. i was happy with him. my first PC game ever. and YES! my second game was tomb raid 1 then 2 :D best time ever!
Your voice sounds so young like 21, and I have never heared of "Prince of Persia". My first computer game was "Age of Empires" from 1997. Please may I ask for your age?
@AxMania Yeah, maybe I should indeed just start at the original instead of Warrior Within and complete them all again, good idea! I get what you are saying about open-world games. They tend to be overwhelming and are becoming too large with too many things to collect and side-quests to complete. I take care to tackle them one at the time and make my gaming sessions not too long (and switch to other type of games if I need it) to prevent that feeling of being burned out by the open world. Let's hope the next AC will be more focused! 3D is relatively similar to AoD. The controls are bad and definitely need some getting used to and the game obviously was not optimized(/fully finished) before release, but they nail the Persian setting and I like how the game looks in terms of graphics (yeah it is 1999 graphics but still). It is a great adventure, with a lot of variety in terms of levels/environments, and I like the story and voice-acting, ànd the music :) Some (parts of) levels are infuriating though (so fair warning!) [especially Streets and Docks (Level 8) and the Floating Ruins (Level 13)]. In general I like the first few levels the most (until the Rooftops, which is Level 7), while the best level is probably the last level before the finale (the Moon Temple, which is Level 16).
Sorry for the late reply! That's a very good way to handle open-world games, and I think I should do it the same way. I have a tendency to only play one game at a time, which unfortunately can mean that they can become a bit of a slog to get through, because I don't mix it up with a different game, haha! So good strategy! I really like the setting of AC Mirage, so I hope so! Reading this has made me really excited to play Prince of Persia 3D, haha! I only think I played, maybe, two levels back then? I can't remember. I skipped through a playthrough on RUclips, and there are so many levels I've never seen. I look forward to playing it now.
Tomb raider sorry lol, it’s my ultimate game of life and you’re actually so right about getting all the ideas from PoP, I kinda feel disappointed in tomb raider now x) Nice video, Pop is such a good cute game that I did not know about, thanks for introducing it to me :)🙏
Oh it will, TB can’t go anywhere it’s THE game ahah, they really added a perspective and 3D to the game that was genius yeah, and I’m taking this opportunity to thank you for taking the time doing videos on it even tho it’s a very old game ahah (about tomb raider) so good to be able to watch it 🙏💪💪💪🤪
@AxMania No worries man, reply whenever you can/want (or not of course - it's all up to you). I'm sure you get a lot of comments, so please do not get/feel overwhelmed :) Cool that you are excited to play POP3D! I hope I have not caused you setting your expectations too high now though haha! You know what you are getting into - it's like Angel of Darkness. Some ideas and puzzles/levels are very cool, but the overall execution is rather flawed, sadly. However, personally I dig the graphics (and character models), music, (most) atmospheres, and just the overall vibe of the game :) To me, it truly felt like a step-up (only not in terms of controls and puzzles, obviously). The story is relatively basic still but at least sufficiently different compared to the first two entries - I remember being pretty surprised & impressed by it when I first played it (also in terms of the main villlain, who is pulled right out of Indian mythology if I'm not mistaken). Maybe that is a good/interesting idea for a video some day, come to think of it: a comparison between AOD and POP3D! (since these two games are similar in so many ways (imo)). But first, I'm curious to hear your opinions/deep dive on AOD itself - I'm curious how you will 'tackle' that game on your channel :)
I remember I first saw POP3D in a magazine WAY back, and I just thought it looked so cool, and I wanted the game so badly. I didn't play it until a year or two later - I think. I can't quite remember. I agree completely though, I absolutely love the graphics and art style. It's VERY funny that you suggest an AOD and POP3D comparison, considering the video I'm working on right now for the end of February! :D You'll understand when the time comes, haha! Thank you for this video suggestion, that would be so fun to make. Both games are the first "next-gen" game in their respective series, so to speak. I plan on releasing a video about the Angel of Darkness on June 20th, which is the game's 20th anniversary, if I'm not mistaken. Thank you so much for your interest in my videos :)
Hahaha, that would've been so unfair 😅 "Sure, Jaffar is dead, so you've stopped him from marrying or killing the Princess, but... you were too slow. Game over."
I played Prince of Persia long time ago. Yes, the feeling of game mechanics is very similar: "if a player does this and that, the result will be exactly..." May you compare TR2 and Gothic 1? It looks like Gothic was inspired by TR and Gothic's non-RPG mechanics and controls are same as TR ones. However I've never seen a video or at least a text-only article which compares two games. It looks like TR fans are not interested at all in Gothic and vice versa.
Oh, interesting! I don't know the game, but I would love to learn more about it. I'll watch some playthrough videos of it later today. Thank you for sharing! ☺️
The eternal circle of gaming : Prince pf Persia -> Tomb Raider Original ->Prince of Persia SoT Trilogy -> Tomb Raider Legend Trilogy -> Uncharted -> Tomb Raider Survivor Trilogy -> ?
Prince Of Persia is a massive game an its legacy fell on Tomb Raider. We can really see the similarities between the games and both of them have their place on video games' history.
Watching this video, I decided to make a list of all the comparisons between Tomb Raider and Prince of Persia per era. It’s on my tumblr blog. I can’t even type the L word that refers to the thing that could get you there from here as RUclips auto deletes my comment if I try.
@@lionocyborg6030 It was such a fascinating read, thank you so much. I can't believe how many similiarities you found, and how far beyond the first game they go. My video feels quite half(or quarter)-assed by comparison! 😂 You've given me the motivation to go through all of the Prince of Persia games now, and capture footage for all of them. I would love to one day make your blog post into a video, with comparison after comparison, if that would be ok with you? You would, of course, be credited. I think this could be super interesting. Also, it's funny how you point out the goose hunt in Tomb Raider II, as I'll be talking quite a bit about it in my next video 😃 Seriously, thank you for the awesome comparison of the two series. I even learned things about Tomb Raider that I didn't know. I have seriously never noticed that combat was nerfed between Legend and Anniversary, for example 😬
I never actually beat this game, was way harder than any other pc game i play in the early 90ts... Wonder why is not in Steam, i do not want to do the Jack Sparrow to play it legit xD, Btw i was expecting the Eurovision Gag, but i guess is only in Videos of Tomb Raider.
It is! I couldn't do it as a kid, but I'm more patient now than I was back then, haha! Yeah, it's annoying. You can play it in a browser, though! Haha, the Eurovision stuff is only for the Tomb Raider Mysteries videos, but I think I've retired those for now 😅
@@greenhowie I haven't got years, I believe the last good thing they did was the PS2 prince of Persia trilogy. If they put care into the sands of time remake it will be awesome. If you haven't played it, it's an all time great
I really, really hope so! I wasn't bothered by the graphics in the trailer, like most people were, so I wish they would've just released it in 2021 😅 I'm a little worried about all these delays, but I hope that means it will be good when it does arrive!
@@AxMania tbh I hated those graphics, stylized is one thing, but out of date is another. They clearly filtered it to try to cover up the lack of polish. I have faith though since they started from scratch basically and gave it back to the original studio that made it
well the reason PoP (prince of persia aka PoP) isn't doing anything is because the shitbirds at ubisoft hq invested far too much in assassins creed ( by investing far too much in assassins creed i mean when the devs got bored of assassins creeds cookie cutter template they could have just gone with PoP, yes i'm salty I don't live in that timeline.) and forgot that at it's core the PoP franchise is meant to have the darkness and whimsy of the 1001 Arabian nights.
Assassins creed did evolved from prince of Persia…twice if they did turn the pop reboot set in Egypt into AC origins? And ironically we could see assassins creed as the inversion of tomb raider, and not only because tomb raider is good and assassins creed is bad… I mean as gameplay
Well everything was inspired by everything else, as its how culture and games formed over time, one person sets up a playbook, another thinks okay what if I do this abit differently and you gotta figure what was the major advancement in technology back then, and it was 3D sprites and technology with proper voice acting, the first of its kind outside of FMV like the kind that you would see in a tex Murphy game, so you take the same basic idea and do it in a new way and that is the result, granted one could say they are as similar as they are different, but the conceptual gameplay concepts are not however also join the club with the ubisoft thing, the guy running the place is an idiot and is sinking everything over there, as I've been waiting for a new driver game for years, and if they would just have the vision they could have stolen all of rockstars fire and carved out a very nice slice for themselves same thing with blood dragon, the guy who made it had vision and wanted to create his own series with the guy from the first terminator film and got laughed out of the building, and upon hearing that way back when I knew they were done for as the reason gaming worked as a whole was precisely BECAUSE of crazy ideas like that, hell interstate 76 came about purely because one of the mech warrior guys wanted to buy a muscle car but which one lol and i cant knock going for a 70 AAR Cuda in Hemi Orange with 432 on the side as the leads car, as you had Laura as your would be game as a kid, I had interstate and the interplay star trek command games. as I tried the demo but the controls on a keyboard were just impossible to deal with as I kept getting the multi key warning lol that beep when you try and hold too many keys at once lol like I still remember that demo to this day and just trying to work it and giving up, those two however, mouse and keys worked really well and you only needed like 5 keys to get the hang of the game, and most of the movement in starfleet command wias with the mouse, hell one must wonder how old laura croft would work with a simple conversion to a gamepad and a remaster in the same vein as Destroy All Humans but yet again, THQ is stupid, no wait.........
Of course, that's true! I only suggest that Tomb Raider found inspiration in Prince of Persia, not that they are the same. It's mostly in the way the two games play I think so. They are both pretty unique compared to their peers at the time, and that's why I like to compare them. Aww, that's a shame about Blood Dragon. That's easily the most interesting Far Cry game ever. Thank you for sharing these stories!
@@AxMania yeah i wasnt trying to infer plagiarism, just that everything was inspired by something else, or just sheerly by accident followed the same playbook as one could easily say that both games were inspired by Indiana jones, in the same sense as themselves given the traps in the last crusade. or they were inspired by the prince there given your examples its kind of one of those chicken and the egg type situations as its one of those dumb things that everyone always loves to do, IE state they were the first, when the first of the first was a who knows who came up with what that was probably stolen from someone else to begin with when the main question should be do you like it or not hell even in my own circles there, everyone likes to say Driver is a GTA clone when it predates it with the original driver which I used to play the nuts off of with the Demo back on PC kid, no money and a crappy computer, what can I say lol although I cant knock the similarities in your example however, which kinda begs the question of if you went into one of the old interviews that someone would have said they were inspired by the old prince of persia games abit. at which point if everyone was chill with it, no sense to use it as a knocking point and yeah with the blood dragon thing the biggest kicker was in the game directly after it, Ubisoft took shots at the blood dragon director who they laughed out of the building in the next game with some stupid easter egg about it and I'm just sitting there like, but blood dragon was good, why are you dumping on it? like the soundtrack alone was god tier, hell the only bad thing about the game was that Robocops gun wasnt like it was in the movies with that insanely oP burst fire mode he used lol
I loved how you went through the story - did you seriously complete it with exactly zero seconds left, or was that set up for the video? :D Prince was definitely a huge influence on Tomb Raider - it’s odd that I didn’t really notice at the time. And both games slowly turn evil and insane as they go on - Prince with its weird unpredictable magic, Tomb Raider with its hideous emaciated bone creatures and flesh walls
Hi David, thank you so much, and thank you for watching! Haha, I must admit that I did that for dramatic effect! 😅 But it was close to the truth. I entered Level 12B (where the ceiling tiles fall down on the Prince) with 2 minutes left on the clock. Then I went to the screen just before Jaffar, and waited until there were about 20 seconds left. I had actually hoped I could hit the "1 Second Left"-mark, but... oh well.
That's a really good point, I hadn't even thought about that! Both games do indeed become progressively more bizarre.
When I first played Prince of Persia, I immediately noticed the run, careful step, catch-and-hang, and spike death animations were almost identical to Tomb Raider. So was the fucking difficulty.
Hahaha, that final paragraph is so true! 😂
You know, if someone said this randomly in conversations I would have been like...no.
But here we are, you are so right.
Hahaha, thank you! 😃
I am confused, I always thought (due to your voice) you are younger then me, but I am 39 and you rocked PoP so early. Probs are sent and I love your channel!
Haha, I get that a lot! I have a very boyish voice, for some reason, but I'm 34! 😅 A friend of mine suggested that my microphone makes me sound younger than I am. Thank you so much man, I really appreciate it!
Eh, don't be so harsh on the princess - being forcefully married to a creepy old guy can be a bit... stressful.
Haha! I'm just having a little fun with her cutscenes. She goes from looking anxious to not-that-bothered-about-it rather quickly though, doesn't she? 😉 In her defense, she actually can talk with mice. That's pretty cool.
@@AxMania In the 360 & iOS versions of the remake, she (as portrayed by Farah from Sands of Time but in purple instead of red) even looks bored when she lies on her bed watching the hourglass and even does her hair in one cutscene to pass the time if I remember right.
I first played PoP on a Nokia Ngage (it was a port). It was an instant hit because I was looking for a side scrolling game like tombraider on Ngage. This brought back so many memories, thank you for the video!
Seriously, Prince of Persia was on EVERYTHING, haha! You are very welcome, I'm happy to hear that! ☺️
I've always felt like TR is a competent 3D recreation/translation of PoP's platforming with some lovely spunk added to it.
Yeah, agreed! It's really cool to see the evolution of this concept from 2D to 3D.
I always watched my cousins play this game at my grandmas house as a child
Nice, it's one of those games that everybody from a certain age group know about somehow, it seems
Welcome back! 🤩 I remember playing PoP on the school's IBM (yes I'm old, shut up), but I could never finish it, because I sucked at swordfight and the guard kept killing me 😭 Old games were so difficult, nowdays you get an achievement for just making it through the main menu 🤣
Thank you! 🥰 I'm old too! I sound like a 20-year old, but I, too, grew up with all these insanely hard DOS games 😅 Those were the days...
There's really a lot of parallels between PoP and TR.
The movement is very similar with requiring running jumps, and how the level layout is tile based so you can easily judge distances. Carefully dropping down heights by grabbing a ledge is also similar. And of course the common deathtrap of falling into spikes.
You could even say that the mirror prince is similar to bacon Lara in concept.
Yeah, exactly! I did mention the doppelganger similarities in my video as well.
@@AxMania Yeah I wasn't at that point of the video yet when I wrote the comment, was cool to see that you noticed the same similarities!
Same! I grew up playing Prince of Persia too and then when I first played Tomb Raider I fell in love with it and always read it as a 3D transposition of PoP.
Great video, as always!
Yeah, it really feels like Tomb Raider is a 3D-evolution of Prince of Persia. Thsnk you so much!
Excellent video! You said all the important things.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!
As a 5 yo I never got past level 3... these chompers were just too much for me. Even now I reflexively start to sweat when I hear the characteristic sound. Such effective game design!
Haha, I feel the exact same way! After having played numerous gory video games, these chompers still make me cringe unlike anything else. Incredible.
Oh, yeah! Such a primordial piece of art! It's amazing how they achieved to simulate realistic movements, despite the fact that they were just starting to develop multi-platform games. Also, look at all that 8 bit gore. Isn't that cute? Me likey that.
Missed you, Alex! See you next time.
Agree with everything you say here, haha! Thank you so much! 🥰 I'll be back in 2 weeks or so with a new video.
Wonderful video.
I grew up on Flashback, we had it for the AMIGA and it's still one of my all time favorite games of all time.
I know younger players probably find the controls frustrating because they want to be able to turn around on a dime. But once you start thinking about the controls, not as split second maneuvers and more about buffering inputs and seeing the patterns, you actually fall in love with the heaviness of it all.
When I played TR as a kid, coming off Flashback, it felt like second nature. Because I knew the game wasn't about looking before you leap, it was actually the opposite. Planning your next move.
As a kid, I loved this because it meant that my reactions didn't matter as much as long as I was paying attention and could buffer the buttons. It's so fuckjng rewarding
Thank you so much! I bought the 25th Anniversary Edition of Flashback for PS4 a few months ago, so I plan on playing it soon. I just adore the graphics of that game, and I'm of course on board with that style of gameplay as well. The way these cinematic platformers (and Tomb Raider) make you carefully maneuver a character, makes them so much more immersive, as it feels more "dangerous" to play them, in a way.
That was super fun😃I would love to see you cover more games beside TR. The only Prine Of Persia I have ever played was Sands Of Time and I remember liking it. Now I really want to look into some more games of this franchise.
Thank you! 😃 I think you'll love the Prince of Persia games! They are very easy to get into as a Tomb Raider fan. I've always kind of felt that Prince of Persia and Tomb Raider were "cousins" or something 😅 The Prince of Persia games are also very different from each other, so they are quite fun to explore.
I have not played Prince of Persia yet, but I do agree with you in that it was an inspiration for TR. Great video as always 😊
I'd recommend you to do so, it's really good! Thank you so much, I really appreciate it 😊
@@AxMania I trust your judgement, so I will look into that as soon as I have finished TR3 Gold.
Great video. Prince of Persia is such a great series.
Thank you so much! I agree, it really is. I want to play the rest of those games again.
Great video 👍 for sure Prince of Persia inspired TR for being what it is today. I think I played that game on the gameboy (if I’m not mistaken) but unfortunately never finished. Shame that it’s been 13 years since the last one but yeah Assasins Creed is taking the franchise’s spot. Hopefully we’ll see it back to the mainstream soon. 👊
Thanks man! 😎 Haha, that's awesome! Of course there's a Gameboy port as well, this game was on every single platform it seems. Yeah, it's a real shame. The next Assassin's Creed looks VERY Prince of Persia however, as it's set in the Middle-East 😎
Even though I did never play PoP, it was very interesting to watch your video and your experiences, I really enjoy your style of video making. I was born too late to enjoy PoP, but I was right in time to rock TR at least. 💪🏼🤗
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! I'm very happy that it was enjoyable to watch, even without having played it - and such an old game as well.
This is great stuff 👍
Thank you so much! 😊
Excellent video. Thank you!
I was surprised to see the reference to Broken Sword 1:31 I thought that was a pretty niche game. I'm not a fan of the Broken Sword series, but it was mildly entertaining. I only checked it out because I love conspiracy/occult stuff, which Tomb Raider dabbles in as well.
Thank you very much! Haha, I love the first two Broken Sword games. I especially played the second game a lot. Yeah, they actually have some themes in common.
I played Tomb Raider and this one as a kid. Yes, they definitely have lots in common. Prince of Persia i never beat as a child. Good reminder to try my luck as an adult again...
Yes, do it! That's what I did a year ago or so, and it was very satisfying to finally beat it.
Oh dear I pretty much shared the same history as you... playing POP1 and 2 on DOS before finding about TR1 D: such nostalgia!
I love this classic era of DOS-gaming! So many weird and fun (and difficult!) games.
That's absolutely true. In fact, I own a 1999's magazine about the first three TRs, which corroborates all your opinions! The magazine also lists as TR inspirations: Flashback, Fade to black, Tenchu and Oddworld.
🤩Great job, as always!
Ohh, that's interesting! I would love to have seen that magazine myself. I don't know Fade to Black, but Tenchu makes total sense, as well as Flashback and Oddworld of course, since they also were inspired by Prince of Persia.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! 🥰
I never got around to playing Prince Of Persia but I can see that TR drew heavily from it. Great video. Cheers from Ottawa, Canada🍁
It's a fantastic game. You should really try it! I think it holds up today, even if it's 35 years old. Cheers!
Aaah yes, this was one of my earliest DOS games as well. I remember I never made it past level 3.
I think all people "our age" have come in contact with Prince of Persia at one point. It's one of those games that was just everywhere. Same with the Shareware version of Wolfenstein 3D, from my experience.
Level 3 is really hard! It's probably the second or third hardest level.
YES! I always thought the same! I also played the original POP and then saw the clear influence in TR!
Yeah, I really think Prince of Persia laid the foundation for Tomb Raider.
Assassin's Creed was originally a spin-off about the Prince's bodyguards, who were assassins. The idea was rejected because it was a PoP game that didn't focus on the Prince, so it was made into its own game/series.
There were concept artworks of it, showing things like the now-iconic Hidden Blade and what looks like a teamwork mechanic like that of AC Brotherhood.
Oh, I had no idea. That's really interesting. I knew that Assassin's Creed evolved from Prince of Persia in some way, but not the specifics.
I have played it on a 286X with a black&white CRT monitor, amongst Streed Rod and California Games. I'm not sure when did I had it, maybe around '93-'94.
Those first PC games that I had have still a huge influence on me.
Awesom period for unique and cool games.
Thanks for the video and keep up the good work! ;)
Haha, there were so many interesting ports for this game! I don't even know what a 286X is 😅 I agree completely, those first PC games I played in the 90's left an enormous impression on me.
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it!
Great job as always! I've played original PoP a little, but didn't like it much. But PoP2 Warrior Within impressed me a lot!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! It's a little difficult to get into, because of the sort of "weighted" controls (or physics), but it's so much fun when you get the hang of it 😉 Yeah, I played Warrior Within as well! It was a really cool game, and a much darker take on Prince of Persia, if I remember correctly.
@@AxMania Warrior Within is a masterpiece! It's so dark with all these interiors, time-switching puzzles and hard rock OST! I absolutely love it! Meanwhile The Sands of Time and The Two Thrones made no impression to me at all - I really don't know why.
@@LSweetMari Yeah, it was such an edgy game, I still remember the main theme ("I Stand Alone", so badass! 😎). It's funny, I don't remember ANYTHING from The Two Thrones, at all, but I do love The Sands of Time. The weird 2008 "reboot", or whatever it was, is excellent as well, but it's a quite strange game compared to the rest, and it's not even set in Persia.
Based on Schopenhauer Voluntarism that "will is the basic factor" made this game and Jordan Mechner immortal
Jordan Mechner is a genius. Prince of Persia is unbelievably well-designed.
Wow! I loved this video! I had no idea that this game existed or that it inspired Tomb Raider! I learned so much! ☺️ Another amazing video as always 🥰
Thank you so much for your kind words, and for watching, Suzanne! 🥰 I'm very happy that you enjoyed the video, despite it being about an ancient relic like this, haha!
I play this as a kid and never pass the guard, LOL. Maybe some day I try to finish like you do.
Do it! It's really satisfying to conquer those difficult childhood games 😃
i never reached level 2, because our school didn't had the manual for the game. We had that game on all of our very old PCs back then in 2000/2001 my school. So i always got stuck at the copy protection room with all that letter potions. Back then,we had no access internet and me at home or any of my friends in school neither.
I still remember the monotone internal PC speaker sound of that game, because our school didn't had real speakers
Ah, yes! Our old DOS computer didn't have real speakers either, so I didn't experience Prince of Persia, Wolfenstein 3D and so on with their actual sounds until years later, haha!
As I remember, the protagonist is not a prince of Persia in the beginning, he's a traveller who got caught up in the local turmoil. He becomes the prince by winning the hand of the princess.
Yeah, I learned that after releasing this video. I just assumed he was a very white Persian prince 😅
Did I play Prince of Persia? No.
But since I love ur videos I still watched it :D also you have a really relaxing voice which makes it so easy to listen to... Keep up with the great work! 😊
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! I can't stand my own voice 😂 Thank you for your kind words 😊
PoP was one of the first videogames I've ever seen, my dad showed it to me at work, years before we had any computer at home. I remember him demostrating the strategy for killing guards, sheating his sword to let the enemy get close and then quickly unsheathe and stab :D I've tried to play it maybe a few times in my life but never seriously (i.e. getting maybe to the second level?) but I've seen a lot of it by others playing, so I knew about many of these things that PoP and TR have in common already that you showed here, but not all. It's definitely cool to see it all listed! Also it's funny, it actually took me a long time to understand TR's grid system (I didn't speak English back then so Lara's explanations in the gym didn't help), so I had both "this thing in PoP is like in TR" and "this thing in TR is like in PoP" realizations over time :D
I wonder if I'd be able to play it competently nowadays, the time limit would probably stress me out a lot though, just like it did any time I tried...
Seriously, I think you should give it another try! That's what I did. It felt almost cathartic to finally conquer this childhood demon! 😂 It's a fantastic game, and it's surprisingly easy to get in to for a Tomb Raider fan, because it uses those similar maneuvering mechanics. The time limit is super stressful, but the more you try, you'll be able to pass levels so quickly that the first 6 levels or so are over in very little time, which gives you a lot of time to deal with the more time-consuming levels 7-9. Go for it, I think you'd enjoy it! 😃
@@AxMania Maybe I could try to find a way to play it with saves, might be a little less stressful then :D
I must say, I could always clearly see the resemblance between the two franchises, but my pov was influenced by the later releases, just never connected the dots and thought of TR being the one grasping inspiration from PoP since it has first entered my life with the release of the trilogy in 2006, and I was never made aware of the games that were released prior to the 2003-2006 trilogy.
I also dearly love PoP's 2008 era. I remember the majority being immensely disappointed with the game, and all the stark changes that it has offered, but all I recall is stunning, separating it from other games (at the time) visuals, vibrant colours, fluid gameplay and story that I did not at all understand cause at the young age of 12 I still had no knowledge of the English language whatsoever 🤣.
Lovely vid ! 😊😊
Haha, I've always felt that the Prince of Persia and Tomb Raider series were game franchise "cousins" or something 🤣 I agree completely, the 2008 "reboot", or whatever it was, was amazing. It's also a very unique game, since it's set in a sort of fantasy world that isn't really Persia-inspired. I would really like to play through it again, very soon.
Ah, Prince of Persia. Love the series. Never completed it most of them (only finished Sands of Time, Two Thrones and 2008).
And I did noticed the similarities between the two series. Which is probably why I'm one of the few who actually liked Prince of Persia 3D (if only it was less buggy and the controls weren't so delayed. Hell, the (very underrated) GBC Tomb Raider games do kinda feel similar to Prince of Persia.
I remember when I was a kid, reading previews of an upcoming Tomb Raider clone from Activision called "Beneath" which looked amazing and was dismayed when it was quietly cancelled.
I want to play through the entire series from start to finish, like I've done with the Tomb Raider games. The Prince of Persia games span a huge chunk of video game history, so their evolution and various iterations are really interesting.
I just googled Beneath. It looks so cool, almost like a very early Uncharted game, or something. What a shame it was cancelled, I'm sure I would've loved it.
I always could see this connection of inspiration betwwen the two and I was in love with warrior within at some point. I even remeber i was thinking back then.. ohh it'd be so cool if tomb raider had some of this movement mechanics :D I wasn't aware though of how far back the link goes !! this was so intresting to watch and see that!
Thank you so much, I really appreciate that! Yeah, it's funny, back in the day, I always thought of Prince of Persia and Tomb Raider as "cousins" 😃 They just feel related, somehow.
Great video, it brought back a lot of fond memories. Don't know if this video was a one off or not, but if you wanted to cover more of the older games that inspired Tomb Raider, I for one would love it.
To answer your question about why the player character doesn't look Persian, it's because he isn't. Nor is he a prince, at least not during the course of the game. If I recall correctly from either the instruction manual or the back of the box, he's supposed to be an adventurer from a foreign land, whom the princess fell in love with due to his bravery. Jaffar imprisoned him merely out of jealousy and spite. The title of the game refers not to who the player character currently is, but who he will become should he succeed in rescuing the princess.
Thank you so much, I'm very happy to hear that! I'd love to do a lot more videos about all sorts of old weird video games, especially DOS video games and stuff.
Ohhh, that's very interesting! I had no idea! It's funny, because in most other ports, the Prince actually looks persian (well, stereotypically persian, that is), whereas very few versions have this very caucasian representation of him. That's a very good point about the title of the game, I should've caught that, haha!
@@AxMania Yeah, they definitely downplayed the foreigner aspect in later ports, if not retconned it outright. But I'll always remember him in his original, weirdly blond incarnation. lol
The Sega CD version of Prince of Persia is quite good as well. You can tweak the control speed in the options menu, which is a god send!
Ah, interesting! It's amazing how many platforms Prince of Persia got ported to.
Omg this was such a sweet little video, truly a love letter of some sort! I really love Prince of Persia, both as a concept/idea (especially the setting of Persia) ànd as games! I have played the first four games many times in my childhood (or attempted to play would be more fair to say haha), so I have many sweet memories associated with it (but also a lot of memories of insane struggles xD). Strangely enough, or in my case it is so very fitting, I really liked the Angel of Darkness of this franchise: Prince of Persia 3D (because of its story, unique atmospheres/'feel', and music), but the original holds a special place in my heart as well (apart from The Sands of Time, for obvious reasons). Like yourself, I never finished it though, and in the second one I could never find my way out of the caves with the flying carpet, so the only thing I could do was replaying the first few levels over and over again :( Cool New Year's wish by the way to play the first one again and this time to also beat it! I have a similar long-term goal for the games after The Sands of Time...
Prince of Persia definitely influenced Tomb Raider, apart from Indiana Jones of course. Then much later on, out of development for Prince of Persia arose the first Assassin's Creed game (and thereby that series). I really like single-player action-adventure games ((more) puzzle-driven and/or (more) story-driven), so having more unique video game series in this genre existing next to each other would be ideal in my eyes - this is why I'm hoping PoP will make its way back to us some day (hopefully soon!). By the way, _I Finished A Video Game_ (RUclips channel) has made an retrospective on the entire Prince of Persia series, which is a great watch! I recommend it to anyone that is even slightly interested in PoP; even if you have not played the games, it is really interesting.
Thank you so much, I'm very happy to hear that you enjoyed it! I want to do a complete Prince of Persia series ranking some day, so I need to complete Prince of Persia 3D as well, which indeed seems to be the black sheep 😃 I played it for some hours as a kid, and it never really clicked for me back then, but I should probably give it another go. Haha, you really should try and complete the first game, it's very satisfying to do so! It's such a good game, still, after all these years. I would've loved the game even if I hadn't grown up with it, I'm sure.
I agree, I hope Prince of Persia will be back (for good) some day. Right now, I'm a little bit excited about the next Assassin's Creed game, as it's set in the Middle-East, which makes it feel even more Prince of Persia-like. Even though I'm kind of sick and tired of Ubisoft open-world games - and open-world games in general, even. Ohh, that sounds interesting, thank you for the recommendation! I'll check that out.
Prince of Persia was actually the second game j ever played, except it was the Warrior Within and the sands of time, the first being TR Anniversary. Glad to be getting a cover of another favourite :)
I played Warrior Within several years ago, and I remember loving it, but also that it was a more gritty and dark Prince of Persia game, right?
@AxMania Yes, it had tons of more demonic enemies and swearing, which 5 year old me didnt understand as my english was nonexistent, but i know j shouldnt have been playing it when i did 😭. The Two Thrones was my next game, and suprisingly i got really close to beating it. Loved it way more too
One of the best, PoP was my addiction as a kid. Had a pirate copy for my Brother's old Amiga and never realised the potions were DRM until watching retrospectives decades later. Makes it even more impressive that my Dad managed to get to the end once.
Also, glad to see another video, this channel is always a lot of fun and keeps me going sometimes. If you have the time and patience a Deathtrap Dungeon retrospective might be fun, especially since it was predicted to be a smash hit until Tomb Raider came out and annihilated all hype for the game. Either that or Rick Dangerous... or La-Mulana... for reasons... okay now I'm being greedy lol
The Amiga version is basically the same as the DOS version, right? I think I played the Amiga version at a friend's house, way back. Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! I don't know those games, but I'd like to check them out! Rick Dangerous sounds familiar, that's a Pitfall-like game, right? Haha, keep 'em coming! I want to cover many more old school games.
@@AxMania Oh Rick Dangerous was made by a certain team we are very familiar with :)
@@greenhowie D'oh!!! Okay I REALLY need to play it! 😅
@@greenhowie Oh, and Simon Phipps is the game designer for it! He also designed Shadow Man, one of my all-time favorites!
@@AxMania Oh Shadow Man is awesome, remember hearing they directly copied medical examples of diseased flesh for environmental textures lol, need to play it again.
Damn that game was hard and I never finished it But definitely feels nostalgic!
Hahaha, it's so hard! Games were just brutal back then!
Have this on master system & mega drive. Was hard but classic, I do remember a slight delay when holding jump (like Tomb Raider)
The modern xbox/PS2 trilogy (in particular twin thrones) were great too.
Yeah, I agree. The Sands of Time is a phenomenal game. I love it.
I love both of these Franchises :D
Me too! 😃
Heh, I remember playing it at school, not being able to get anywhere :D my first game I actually progressed through somehow was Team17's Superfrog for Amiga :)
I love Superfrog! I played that as well. I have so many memories from those late 80's/early 90's DOS/Amiga games.
You make a good case, though of course it's not the only inspiration when there's Indiana dealing with similar traps (and being a tomb raider himself).
There's another similarity, Laura has timed sequences to open a door and have to speed through a death gauntlet before it seals again. Luckily there isn't a time limit to complete the game/level itself, so we can feel at ease to stroll about, admire the atmosphere, and look for secrets.
Prince of Persia (DOS) has been a favorite of mine since it came out, though it took me until 2012 to actually get to level 9 with time enough to go on and kill Jafar, though that last reflection puzzle stumped me a while. Now I still need to replay and finish PoP2 - I got to the flame long ago (which I understand was pretty close), but couldn't figure the counter intuitive way to progress (the reflection puzzle of that game). So many cool moments in that sequel though.
Very good point. I guess Indiana Jones is the thematic inspiration, and Prince of Persia the gameplay inspiration. I would love to play through the sequel as well, the graphics are gorgeous in that game! I would actually really like to dive deeper into the Prince of Persia series, and complete all of the games. There's still a few of them I haven't played yet.
Do you have any other recommendations for games like classic Tomb Raider? Surprisingly, no one really ever copied classic Tomb Raider's style of puzzle based exploration which a large emphasis on precise, third person platforming despite how famous it is. Even the newer Tomb Raiders have a very different design philosophy and opted for more of an combat focus with an emphasis on more linear levels and cinematic storytelling
Indiana Jones & The Infernal Machine feels like a classic Tomb Raider game actually! I'm playing through it for the first time myself right now. It's a bit more stiff and clunky in its' controls, but it feels like a Tomb Raider clone. There's also a great little indy game called Treasures of the Aegean that feels very much like Tomb Raider, even if it's a 2D-game. Yeah, the newer Tomb Raider games don't resemble classic Tomb Raider at all :(
It is very hard to convey to newer generations how a classic game remains great despite advancements being made to every aspect of production since then. These classic titles were influential and laid the groundwork for other artists to build off of. But to the unaided eye, it can feel dated today. Those who grew up with the classics have a level of appreciation that easily gets missed by people who are fresh to the scene. To the oldie, it's value is self-evident and requires no explanation. To the newie, the later Prince of Persia is denser in entertainment, is more accessible, provides shorter gaps between puzzle-solving gratification, has three meaty dimensions, and is on a more modern platform ergo better.
I love AoD but noticed in recent years the game is heavily inspired thematically and plot-wise by popular games and movies. It's like an amalgamation of bits that worked well in other successful franchises. Which is sad. I like to think the games are unique nuggets of brilliance. But whatever they're still great.
Agree with everything here. What's interesting about Prince of Persia is, that I often go back and play games from my childhood, and often my appreciation for them is solely nostalgic, but Prince of Persia is a legimately good game, that I thoroughly enjoy playing, and that I think I would've enjoyed playing even if I hadn't grown up with it. It's just a fantastic game, old or not.
I had no idea prince of persia had series. I remember playing the rooftops one in 8:53 cant remember its name. I didnt finish it, it was difficult. Now looking at this video I can see the disturbing deaths and I cant help but wonder how they did that with the few pixels they had... incredible. Yeah, game developers seemed to like the spikes and shark teeth doors and platforms back then.
That's Prince of Persia 2, which I would also love to try and complete some day. Hahaha, indeed! Whoever invented spike traps must've gotten rich off of them in those years 😂
I saw a documentary on it, I think it was just a You Tuber's though, and he also mentioned this game.
It's a great game, still to this day.
Yeah there's no way TR wasn't inspired at least in some way by PoP! I've tried to get into the first one, from the PS2 extra feature from Sands of Time, but could not tolerate that jump delay, lol!
Haha, yeah, the jump delay (and "weight" of the Prince in general) really takes some time getting used to, but it's really an amazing game!
Now we need a new 2D pixelated Tomb Raider, maybe.
That would be awesome. I'd love a sort of side-scrolling 2D platformer Tomb Raider game.
I think when creating TR6 they were inspired by PoP 1, because the most difficult thing there is just movement) At one time I was very impressed with the PoP WW game because of the soundtrack, but I always didn’t like something in these games .. More precisely, how the prince moves , his model seems to be tied to all objects, it’s hard to just jump high, or turn exactly in the right direction. And Lara's model among the cubes seems to move more freely, so her movements look cool even with the first-person view patch.
Yeah, that's a very good point. I definitely think Tomb Raider was inspired by the Prince's movement, but the transition to 3D made it so much more fluid and "free", like you said. It's definitely more polished, because Lara isn't stuck to the grid like the Prince is.
Now I want to play Prince of Persia! 😂
Do it! 😃
SoT trilogy inspired Lara's Legend trilogy
Absolutely, it's funny how these two franchises kept inspiring each other 😃
"... Adolf Hitler looking guards" - alright, now I can't unsee it.
I'm truly sorry 😂
I have never pased over level 6 🥺 I was playing on computer which was not mine and short...
Maybe you should try again now, like I did? 😃 It feels so good to conquer a game from your childhood.
the mouse saving you is not if you screw up, it's a mandatory part, you always get trapped in there. Also, you skipped the leap of faith jumps on level 3 with the off screen tile on the top right side, and with a timed gate, hardest part of the game so far. Also, you are playing version 1.0 of DOS port, since the 1.1 version, has the golden look for level 12, much nicer than the generic blue of the dungeons.
I beg to differ regarding the mouse: ruclips.net/video/ruw81L7aXCs/видео.html
I don't think I skipped anything on level 3? I showed the three choppers and the large health potion in my video, which is in that part of the level. I also did the long section with the standing jumps, running jumps, and run towards the timed gate, which I did show the end of in my video. Otherwise, I'm not sure what part you mean.
Didn't know that! I played the version I grew up with though.
Lara Croft was for me a mix between Indianer Jones and james Bond, but Prince of Persia seems really has to be many parallels.
And the latest Tomb Raider triology is inspired from Uncharted I think.
Very cool video.
My love for video games began with Commander Keen. :)
Oh yes, absolutely! I agree. It's funny how Prince of Persia inspired Tomb Raider, then Tomb Raider inspired Prince of Persia, then Prince of Persia inspired Tomb Raider AGAIN (Sands of Time > Legend), and then somehow Ubcharted came and took over.
Thank you! ☺️ Haha, so did I! I loved all those Commander Keen games so much. I think 4 was my favorite.
@@AxMania I thought Commander Keen was also just a triology. 😱
At least I think I have the complete triology on Steam.
@@Vampiregirl3672 There's 6 or 7 games, I think 😮 Including Keen Dreams too, which was made by a different developer, I think.
yes! i was 5-6 years old and i was too scary and...well... too stupid yet to finish this game. my father did it. i was happy with him. my first PC game ever. and YES! my second game was tomb raid 1 then 2 :D best time ever!
Prince of Persia is certainly not a children's game 😅 It's so difficult and scary! Haha, those are some AMAZING three games to have as your first!
Your voice sounds so young like 21, and I have never heared of "Prince of Persia". My first computer game was "Age of Empires" from 1997. Please may I ask for your age?
Thirties
Haha, 21 is very generous! Some people think I'm a teenager!!! I'm aware that I have a very boyish voice, but I'm 34 😅
I think fans for TR and PoP are definitely the same crowd lol
Yeah, I think so too, haha! These two video game series are distant "cousins" 😉
@AxMania Yeah, maybe I should indeed just start at the original instead of Warrior Within and complete them all again, good idea!
I get what you are saying about open-world games. They tend to be overwhelming and are becoming too large with too many things to collect and side-quests to complete. I take care to tackle them one at the time and make my gaming sessions not too long (and switch to other type of games if I need it) to prevent that feeling of being burned out by the open world. Let's hope the next AC will be more focused!
3D is relatively similar to AoD. The controls are bad and definitely need some getting used to and the game obviously was not optimized(/fully finished) before release, but they nail the Persian setting and I like how the game looks in terms of graphics (yeah it is 1999 graphics but still). It is a great adventure, with a lot of variety in terms of levels/environments, and I like the story and voice-acting, ànd the music :) Some (parts of) levels are infuriating though (so fair warning!) [especially Streets and Docks (Level 8) and the Floating Ruins (Level 13)]. In general I like the first few levels the most (until the Rooftops, which is Level 7), while the best level is probably the last level before the finale (the Moon Temple, which is Level 16).
Sorry for the late reply! That's a very good way to handle open-world games, and I think I should do it the same way. I have a tendency to only play one game at a time, which unfortunately can mean that they can become a bit of a slog to get through, because I don't mix it up with a different game, haha! So good strategy! I really like the setting of AC Mirage, so I hope so!
Reading this has made me really excited to play Prince of Persia 3D, haha! I only think I played, maybe, two levels back then? I can't remember. I skipped through a playthrough on RUclips, and there are so many levels I've never seen. I look forward to playing it now.
we need a video about history of tomb raider speedruns
I'm afraid I'm not the right person to do that as I know nothing about speedrunning Tomb Raider 😅
@@AxMania oh that's shame...
@@skinnypotato4452 I can't even pull of the swamp-skip in Jungle, haha!
@@AxMania oh wow, that's okay actually, I can't even do that but I guess you can do that corner bug thing at least?
oh my gooooood TB just broke down my esteem for the game xd
TB? 🤔
Tomb raider sorry lol, it’s my ultimate game of life and you’re actually so right about getting all the ideas from PoP, I kinda feel disappointed in tomb raider now x)
Nice video, Pop is such a good cute game that I did not know about, thanks for introducing it to me :)🙏
Ahh, gotcha. Don't be! Tomb Raider perfected this type of gameplay, and added a whole lot to it, on top of also making it work in 3D 😉
Oh it will, TB can’t go anywhere it’s THE game ahah, they really added a perspective and 3D to the game that was genius yeah, and I’m taking this opportunity to thank you for taking the time doing videos on it even tho it’s a very old game ahah (about tomb raider) so good to be able to watch it 🙏💪💪💪🤪
@AxMania No worries man, reply whenever you can/want (or not of course - it's all up to you). I'm sure you get a lot of comments, so please do not get/feel overwhelmed :)
Cool that you are excited to play POP3D! I hope I have not caused you setting your expectations too high now though haha! You know what you are getting into - it's like Angel of Darkness. Some ideas and puzzles/levels are very cool, but the overall execution is rather flawed, sadly. However, personally I dig the graphics (and character models), music, (most) atmospheres, and just the overall vibe of the game :) To me, it truly felt like a step-up (only not in terms of controls and puzzles, obviously). The story is relatively basic still but at least sufficiently different compared to the first two entries - I remember being pretty surprised & impressed by it when I first played it (also in terms of the main villlain, who is pulled right out of Indian mythology if I'm not mistaken). Maybe that is a good/interesting idea for a video some day, come to think of it: a comparison between AOD and POP3D! (since these two games are similar in so many ways (imo)). But first, I'm curious to hear your opinions/deep dive on AOD itself - I'm curious how you will 'tackle' that game on your channel :)
I remember I first saw POP3D in a magazine WAY back, and I just thought it looked so cool, and I wanted the game so badly. I didn't play it until a year or two later - I think. I can't quite remember. I agree completely though, I absolutely love the graphics and art style.
It's VERY funny that you suggest an AOD and POP3D comparison, considering the video I'm working on right now for the end of February! :D You'll understand when the time comes, haha! Thank you for this video suggestion, that would be so fun to make. Both games are the first "next-gen" game in their respective series, so to speak.
I plan on releasing a video about the Angel of Darkness on June 20th, which is the game's 20th anniversary, if I'm not mistaken. Thank you so much for your interest in my videos :)
@@AxMania Then, I'll be patiently waiting for your next projects :) I'm sure those will be interesting. Good luck and have fun!
8:33 Imagine you actually defeated the final Boss of the Game and you still lose because of the Time Limit.
I know a certain angry video game nerd would have a few things to say about this ;)
Hahaha, that would've been so unfair 😅 "Sure, Jaffar is dead, so you've stopped him from marrying or killing the Princess, but... you were too slow. Game over."
I played Prince of Persia long time ago. Yes, the feeling of game mechanics is very similar: "if a player does this and that, the result will be exactly..."
May you compare TR2 and Gothic 1? It looks like Gothic was inspired by TR and Gothic's non-RPG mechanics and controls are same as TR ones. However I've never seen a video or at least a text-only article which compares two games. It looks like TR fans are not interested at all in Gothic and vice versa.
Oh, interesting! I don't know the game, but I would love to learn more about it. I'll watch some playthrough videos of it later today. Thank you for sharing! ☺️
The eternal circle of gaming : Prince pf Persia -> Tomb Raider Original ->Prince of Persia SoT Trilogy -> Tomb Raider Legend Trilogy -> Uncharted -> Tomb Raider Survivor Trilogy -> ?
Haha, yes! That's spot on. Amazing that it all began in that dungeon beneath Jaffar's palace in 1989.
I played prince of persia (gamecube trilogy) and i always said that the prince is Lara's ancestor 😂😂😂
Haha, I love that! 😂 He's her great(x24)-grandfather!
Prince Of Persia is a massive game an its legacy fell on Tomb Raider. We can really see the similarities between the games and both of them have their place on video games' history.
Agreed! We are lucky to have both of them.
that video was so cool, can you do the same for the second game?
Thank you so much, I really appreciate it! Yeah, maybe 😮 I would love to do more Prince of Persia stuff in general. Thank you!
Watching this video, I decided to make a list of all the comparisons between Tomb Raider and Prince of Persia per era. It’s on my tumblr blog. I can’t even type the L word that refers to the thing that could get you there from here as RUclips auto deletes my comment if I try.
I found it! 😉 Damn, that looks so interesting, I'll be reading it later. Also, thank you so much for linking to my video, I really appreciate it!
@@AxMania What do you think? Would this list get talked through in a video?
@@lionocyborg6030 It was such a fascinating read, thank you so much. I can't believe how many similiarities you found, and how far beyond the first game they go. My video feels quite half(or quarter)-assed by comparison! 😂 You've given me the motivation to go through all of the Prince of Persia games now, and capture footage for all of them. I would love to one day make your blog post into a video, with comparison after comparison, if that would be ok with you? You would, of course, be credited. I think this could be super interesting.
Also, it's funny how you point out the goose hunt in Tomb Raider II, as I'll be talking quite a bit about it in my next video 😃
Seriously, thank you for the awesome comparison of the two series. I even learned things about Tomb Raider that I didn't know. I have seriously never noticed that combat was nerfed between Legend and Anniversary, for example 😬
@@AxMania that’s OK with me. 👍
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I never actually beat this game, was way harder than any other pc game i play in the early 90ts... Wonder why is not in Steam, i do not want to do the Jack Sparrow to play it legit xD,
Btw i was expecting the Eurovision Gag, but i guess is only in Videos of Tomb Raider.
It is! I couldn't do it as a kid, but I'm more patient now than I was back then, haha! Yeah, it's annoying. You can play it in a browser, though!
Haha, the Eurovision stuff is only for the Tomb Raider Mysteries videos, but I think I've retired those for now 😅
Sands of time remake better be godlike or I'm forever giving up on Ubisoft.
You still have hope for Ubisoft?
Mon Dieu.
@@greenhowie I haven't got years, I believe the last good thing they did was the PS2 prince of Persia trilogy. If they put care into the sands of time remake it will be awesome. If you haven't played it, it's an all time great
I really, really hope so! I wasn't bothered by the graphics in the trailer, like most people were, so I wish they would've just released it in 2021 😅 I'm a little worried about all these delays, but I hope that means it will be good when it does arrive!
There's hope! The Sands of Time is not an open-world game 😉 God, I'm so tired of Ubisoft open-world games.
@@AxMania tbh I hated those graphics, stylized is one thing, but out of date is another. They clearly filtered it to try to cover up the lack of polish. I have faith though since they started from scratch basically and gave it back to the original studio that made it
well the reason PoP (prince of persia aka PoP) isn't doing anything is because the shitbirds at ubisoft hq invested far too much in assassins creed ( by investing far too much in assassins creed i mean when the devs got bored of assassins creeds cookie cutter template they could have just gone with PoP, yes i'm salty I don't live in that timeline.) and forgot that at it's core the PoP franchise is meant to have the darkness and whimsy of the 1001 Arabian nights.
Yeah ☹️ I agree. But we are finally getting a new Prince of Persia next year, which returns to the side-scrolling roots. I'm pretty excited for it!
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Thank you! ☺️
Assassins creed did evolved from prince of Persia…twice if they did turn the pop reboot set in Egypt into AC origins?
And ironically we could see assassins creed as the inversion of tomb raider, and not only because tomb raider is good and assassins creed is bad…
I mean as gameplay
Haha, yeah, that's a good point. Prince of Persia, Tomb Raider and Assassin's Creed all seem somewhat related.
Well everything was inspired by everything else, as its how culture and games formed over time, one person sets up a playbook, another thinks okay what if I do this abit differently and you gotta figure what was the major advancement in technology back then, and it was 3D sprites and technology with proper voice acting, the first of its kind outside of FMV like the kind that you would see in a tex Murphy game,
so you take the same basic idea and do it in a new way and that is the result, granted one could say they are as similar as they are different, but the conceptual gameplay concepts are not however
also join the club with the ubisoft thing, the guy running the place is an idiot and is sinking everything over there, as I've been waiting for a new driver game for years, and if they would just have the vision they could have stolen all of rockstars fire and carved out a very nice slice for themselves
same thing with blood dragon, the guy who made it had vision and wanted to create his own series with the guy from the first terminator film and got laughed out of the building, and upon hearing that way back when I knew they were done for
as the reason gaming worked as a whole was precisely BECAUSE of crazy ideas like that, hell interstate 76 came about purely because one of the mech warrior guys wanted to buy a muscle car but which one lol
and i cant knock going for a 70 AAR Cuda in Hemi Orange with 432 on the side as the leads car, as you had Laura as your would be game as a kid, I had interstate and the interplay star trek command games.
as I tried the demo but the controls on a keyboard were just impossible to deal with as I kept getting the multi key warning lol that beep when you try and hold too many keys at once lol
like I still remember that demo to this day and just trying to work it and giving up,
those two however, mouse and keys worked really well and you only needed like 5 keys to get the hang of the game, and most of the movement in starfleet command wias with the mouse, hell one must wonder how old laura croft would work with a simple conversion to a gamepad and a remaster in the same vein as Destroy All Humans
but yet again, THQ is stupid, no wait.........
Of course, that's true! I only suggest that Tomb Raider found inspiration in Prince of Persia, not that they are the same. It's mostly in the way the two games play I think so. They are both pretty unique compared to their peers at the time, and that's why I like to compare them.
Aww, that's a shame about Blood Dragon. That's easily the most interesting Far Cry game ever. Thank you for sharing these stories!
@@AxMania yeah i wasnt trying to infer plagiarism, just that everything was inspired by something else, or just sheerly by accident followed the same playbook
as one could easily say that both games were inspired by Indiana jones, in the same sense as themselves given the traps in the last crusade. or they were inspired by the prince there given your examples
its kind of one of those chicken and the egg type situations
as its one of those dumb things that everyone always loves to do, IE state they were the first, when the first of the first was a who knows who came up with what that was probably stolen from someone else to begin with
when the main question should be do you like it or not
hell even in my own circles there, everyone likes to say Driver is a GTA clone when it predates it with the original driver
which I used to play the nuts off of with the Demo back on PC
kid, no money and a crappy computer, what can I say lol
although I cant knock the similarities in your example however, which kinda begs the question of if you went into one of the old interviews that someone would have said they were inspired by the old prince of persia games abit.
at which point if everyone was chill with it, no sense to use it as a knocking point
and yeah with the blood dragon thing the biggest kicker was in the game directly after it, Ubisoft took shots at the blood dragon director who they laughed out of the building in the next game with some stupid easter egg about it
and I'm just sitting there like, but blood dragon was good, why are you dumping on it?
like the soundtrack alone was god tier, hell the only bad thing about the game was that Robocops gun wasnt like it was in the movies with that insanely oP burst fire mode he used lol
Woah this game is literally 2d tomb raider i stopped watching half way cuz im seriously co sidering playing it. Even some of the mechanics are similar
Do it! 😃 It's such an awesome game!