@@thawtianajawnson30 What needs to be said that isn't in the title? Ex: What is the video about? Ranking the best office chairs in a tier list How many chairs? 30 What are they ranked on? Comfort
I was REALLY surprised that the video started right away. No intro, no talking, no unnecessary bullsht. In today's age, that is AMAZING. Top quality stuff.
My advice for anyone trying to get a desktop chair is go to an actual store. I was about to buy online based on reviews but something told me to just go to the store instead. I found the experience much like going to get a mattress. It’s best to try for yourself before buying as every body has different needs. What’s comfy for others might be torture for you. I went to the store thinking I would get one chair and walked out with something completely different. You can always check online for the same chair you liked in person to see if you find a better deal. So glad i went.
Yup, agreed. I went to a Herman Miller seller and ended up really disliking the Embody, it was uncomfortable for me right from the spot. On the other hand, I thought the Mirra would be uncomfortable because of the more rigid back rest but I loved it, it was the best IMO, even better than the Aeron. I only wish I it was possible to test the chair for a full work hour day lol, but the limited test at a store is still better than buying solely based on internet reviews. This video is truly helpful though, I probably wouldn't even test the Mirra if they didn't rank it higher as they did, so I'm glad this video exists
I wish your chair reviews/rankings included more diversity in body types. All three of you are 6+ feet tall men, but I'm a 5'1" lady and want to find a chair where my feet firmly touch the ground.
I’m a small guy, and if you have any decent sized table, you need a foot rest, preferably memory foam, to provide elbow ergonomics and proper position.
Yep! I hate to break it to you, but women also need good task chairs! I'm 5'5". Some of these chairs are too far off the ground at their lowest settings.
Another solid tier list video guys. 👍 I don't think I've ever seen a gaming chair in the B tier before, but considering how the Mavix M9 looks absolutely nothing like a racing car seat, speaks volumes.
@@jaykuptake It's because they're not ranking chairs based on their value, but as is evident in this tier list, the top tier chairs are generally more expensive.
I've owned my SecretLab Titan chair for roughly 2 years now and it's at the point where it's killing my back. I wish I didn't make the investment. Currently on the market for an ergonomic office chair, and I find your video to be helpful. I'm leaning toward the Leap V2 or Embody.
Honestly so happy to see the HONEST reviews of SecretLabs. I found their chairs to be so uncomfortable, but their outstanding marketing made me feel there was no way and that it must've been me. Ended up selling the chair and losing money on it cause I felt it would "take time to break in".. and it just never did.
There are so many biased reviews about the Titan on RUclips, from ppl who accepted some form of payment from Secretlab to promote their garbage chairs.
Wow This must be a lot of preference. 15:41 Staples Hyken is my chair and has been for 7 years now, I absolutely love this chair specifically the way the mesh sits I find so comfortable.
@@clivemyrie4209 my brother bought this chair recently im 6'1 200lbs and its nice but not long enough half my legs were hanging off the chair and on top of that,its very snug no room on the sides.
My bottom hurts with the embody. Its disconcerting to see it so highly rated and then it be terribly uncomfortable. I've made several adjustments, watched customization videos. I'm not sure where to go next when the best doesn't work for me. Thanks for any help.
nice vid but simply can’t agree with aeron in b tier. I’ve sat in embody, leap V2 and gesture and prefer the aeron hands down largely due to the breathability of mesh and the 10/10 rocking mechanism. frame problems depend on your body type plus how you adjust the chair. it’s not for everyone. for me it’s the easiest s tier pick of my life. to each their own.
I would love to see a video with STYLISH office chairs that doesn't look like the captains seat from a space ship. Something you can have in your living room :)
As someone who is currently suffering through the post purchase of a Secret Labs Titan, I appreciate this list of straightforward reviews of office chairs. I agree with everything you listed about the Titan; hard as a rock, stiff, mediocre recline and adjustability. I have never had a chair cause me so much pain. I literally have 3 support cushions and it barely makes the chair useable.
I found the opposite to be true about my XL. I can adjust it to the exact ergonomic state I wish to stay in for long typing sessions, and the head rest really helps when I lean back to read something while not typing. Maybe the non-XL are just not as good? I have heard others complain about non-XL but haven't seen any complaints about the XL. Maybe they fixed the issues you are having with it?
yeah. dunno how long i have been usint this titan but it still holds on. and im heavy. and i use it a lot. hours and hours gaming. no issues. havent tryed others so cant compare :D
Im a big guy with some weight (155kg) I have to buy every year a new chair because it breaks even so the chairs are sold as 200kg supported. Which chair would you recommend to me? So far i hat a HJ office instructor, Diablo Chair X-Player XL and a Killerbee XL just since 2019. I really dont know if its worth it to buy a expensive chair because the HJ Office was 450€ and break the fastes. Feels so frustating because if i look for chairs up to 200kg i only get reviews who copy paste the marketing blabla but they all seem to lie when it comes to max supported weight.
I watched a lot of these videos and ended up going with the Embody last year. Finding the perfect chair for me was a difficult task! I'm 6'3, 215lbs and pretty wide lower body. Tried multiple chairs, and the Embody is hands down the best chair I've owned or sat in. It's the only seat wide enough, has decent seat depth (would like 1 more inch) and comfort is just off the charts. When I get up from this chair, it doesn't even feel like I've been sitting, whether it's been 1 hour or 8. The price is completely bonkers and cost more than my computer, but at the end of the day, invest in your health!
had herman miller aeron chair with headrest for 7 years and counting. great comfort for small built like me. lockable recline. mesh seats, for ventilation unlike foams seats/cushions that absorbs sweat for long periods of seating. so, comfort and hygiene is definitely an edge.
I’ve sat in foam chairs regularly for well over 10 years and have never had a problem with sweating. I definitely have not experienced so much sweat that it goes all the way through my clothes and into my chairs seat. If that’s happening to you, then I think there are different problems that need to be addressed than simply moving to a mesh seat. -Ryan
I can buy a car for cheaper than the Embody. Price is an important factor and because this was not mentioned at all, I find no value in these reviews. No mention of "alternative" seating positions either, which I guess you aren't supposed to do, but the truth is, everyone indulges in a slump or legs-on-table recline or a legs-under-butt position every once in a while. I frequently change positions, from focued to relaxed to all over the place.
Just bought my Leap V2 because of you guys. Thank you again, can't wait to get it! I work from home and spend 12-18 hours a day in my chair. I NEED THIS!
I was one of the ones unfortunately duped by Secret Lab's marketing. Between their shills on RUclips and various websites giving their Titan Evo's 5 stars almost everywhere, I thought; "why wouldn't I get one?" Well for anyone reading this comment; the reason you shouldn't get one is because aesthetically they might be one the best gaming chair on the market; but for it's ACTUAL intended function; which is sitting comfortably for long gaming sessions; you're better off buying a chair made out of stone.
I ended up ordering the Embody after getting to try it out. Can't wait for it to arrive. Also can't wait to order and get the head rest! my current chair is killing me.
I keep sliding down or slouching on my embody chair for some reason. I've tried a let rest but that doesn't stop me either from subconsciously moving my butt forward. Anyone had this issue ?
@@Stiggy771 maybe extend the seat base out further? Havent had that problem yet. I noticed this chair really wants you to lock your butt in the back as far as possible.
@@antongromov8093 It got rid of all my back pain. Love this chair. I will say though they kind of mislead you. IF you dont like the chair you have to pay to ship it back and pay a stocking fee. Would have came out to like $400 for me.... My rent went up $300 after I got the chair and I really cant afford the payments. BUT I wasnt about to lose $400 if I sent it back.
Glad you guys also loved the Embody -- I went through trying 10 different office chairs, a lot of them expensive, until also making the same conclusion that the Embody is the most comfortable chair for office or gaming use. Since switching to one right at the start of COVID, I no longer get any back pain. It's the only chair I've ever used that you can sit in for 12+ hours and feel completely fine the next day with no soreness or stiffness. S-Tier all the way.
Oddly enough, the Hyken is great for me. I work from home and I'm also a PC gamer, so I spend a LOT of time in the one I have. Mine is about 3 years old and I sit in it every day. I'm a bigger guy, at 5'10" and 240lbs and I don't contact the frame at all. The mesh is compliant but still supportive. What I ended up changing about it was actually the casters and adding armrest pads. Still, for the money, even with the changes, I'm perfectly happy with it.
yeah im a bit skeptical, i have the dexley which is pretty much the same as the hyken and I don't have any major complaints, its been very comfortable and also way cheaper than the competition. its not perfect but if you're on a budget its not bad at all
@@tubbycustard8866 Give it a couple years and you may be changing your mind. It's the reason I am looking for another chair today. It was great for about a year and half, but it has bottomed out and now I sit on plastic underneatht he mesh and I work 8-10 hours from home. I can be numbing to say the least.. Now I am looking for something higher end to hopefully last longer than 5 years. I can get a great deal on the Aeron like new used, but now this list got me second guessing..
Just recently got one myself; I'm 6'0" and around 180 lbs and I have to say for the pricepoint this seat is pretty great. Very supportive, yet also plenty of comfort for a full day of work or watching movies when tilted back. Was pretty surprised they rated it so low though... It is easily one of the highest value chairs for the money by comparison.
I've had the Embody Gaming chair for 3 months and unfortunately it isn't for me. Thought I'd get used to it after a couple months, but it still hurts my back. Not what I was expecting, although it is 'pretty'. Wish I would have tried it first, though.
I’ve had the embody for 2 weeks and experience lower back pain. I can feel both the right and lower pixel frame dig in. Is that the same for you? Luckily I’m still in the 30 day return window. Next runner up will be the Haworth Fern Digital Knit
@@bmuhlbach02 It's somewhat similar. Lower to middle back pain for me. Not a lot, but a lot more than I got from my previous $150-ish Amazon chair. Also, just sitting in it is a bit awkward. Have to adjust so I feel like I'm sitting straight up in it. Just weird for a ~$1500 chair. Others may have different experiences, so try it, if you can, before buying!
Most of those streamers get paid to use Secretlab chairs, and they also make a commission whenever viewers buy a chair via their affiliate links. Secretlab is great at marketing, and by doing brand deals with so many streamers, it ends up being an easy win-win for both parties. The same goes for companies that host esports events. However, certain streamers like Ninja, Timthetatman, NickMercs, etc... have switched to ergonomic office chairs, because they've realised that racing style gaming chairs are terrible.
The Steelcase Series I is an embarrassment of a chair. It destroys your lower back. I'm 5'8" 145 and it's terrible. I bought it becuase my wife raved about it, but it's the worst chair I've ever owned.
Hawthorn Fern is a garbage chair. Idk why people on YT rate it so high other than the fact theyre paid to do so. QA/QC is garabge. The Embody is also crappy chair. It is the noisiest chair for almost $2K...which is a ridiculous price in its own right.
working control room for years i bought my self a 24/7 Operator / Control room chair. i would never go back to anything else. Now these kind of chairs makes the herman miller Embody chair look cheap but. nothing compare to these kind of chairs
Embody archest are horrible. It doesn't allows you sitting close to the desk because it doesn't adjust to back. I stated before, the chair is cheap. $600 max instead is so overrated that they ask +2K.
It’s crazy how low the titan gets rated. I love mine and took it to my office to work in. I bought the gaming embody in that awesome galaxy color. Doing the return process right now and bought another titan. Is the embody better? Yea absolutely, is it 4 times the cost better? Fuuuuuuck nooooo
I don't get premium brands that start making cheap options just to capture more market share, like the Series 1. It dilutes the brand and ruins first experiences. I'm not trying to gatekeep, it's still an expensive chair, but it's a really bad expensive chair.
I’m so glad you guys shared your heights! As a 5’4 man it makes it easier for me to decided which one to get. Thank you for the review. I really need a chair cuz gaming lately has been hurting my back.
It's next to impossible to find these chairs second hand or refurbished in the UK. Every time I search for high end ergo chairs in the UK I get recommended your videos xD RUclips needs better location segmentation sometimes ... I got all excited for nothing lol
I have maxed out Aeron remastered (silver legs, leather armrests, headrest from Atlas etc) and I love everything about this chair except the fact I cannot sit in "weird" positions because of the rigid frame. But is it really something to dislike? I'm going to buy super comfy living room armchair and use it everytime I want to lift my legs and work on stuff being half asleep.
Getting the best chair that works for your body is totally worth the investment. Cheap chair is your worst enemy, especially if you use them for 8 hours a day.
The Haworth fern digital knit, with lumbar support, has single-handedly eliminated my discomfort while siting for work. I have medical related back issues and this has dramatically improved my sitting experience.
@@btodtv You did actually. I watched dozens of your videos before finally making the purchase. I was in between the Haworth and the Embody. I am similar to your height and had heard your comment in a previous videos regarding the embody curling your shoulders in. I found a local dealer and experienced the same thing, pushing me towards the fern. I was hesitant to spend this kind of money on a chair, however working from home in the chair 8+ hours a day, I have no regrets.
I'm looking to buy the Fern. I'm between a mesh vs digital knit. Do you feel like the digital knit is breathable (and comfortable) enough? Or would you have preferred the mesh version? TIA.
Lol chairs aren’t one size fits all when you buy a chair first try it until you decide but always try don’t trust somebody else opinion. The chair is for you not for the guy 😂
How about music studio chairs, You lean forward while editing tracks and often when using a keyboard, I don't spend a lot of time leaning back while working on music. It would need the arms adjustable to move out of the way when playing guitar. What chair would you advise under 350.00 for music studio?
@@btodtv Ok thanks Greg. Still feels really bad spending almost $2,000 and having to buy an aftermarket headrest that the company does not even sell - which voids the warranty upon install. Feels bad - and is really weird.
I'm 5'9, 26yo 160lbs and my back is destroyed. The past month I've been unable to stand up straight, can barely move my body, and getting up off the chair is so painful. I'm pretty sure I have undiagnosed fibromyalgia (extremely fragile, stiff, sensitive and sore body) For the past year I've been using a $100 "ergo" chair but the foam was flattened after a week, and now it's like sitting on a plastic board. I'm fed up of this chair, want to stop being in pain, but don't know what to get. I "could" afford an Embody, etc, but that price is just crazy and hard to justify. I was about to order the Steelcase series one at $400 but you guys put it in D tier. Most chairs here do not ship to UK so my options are limited. I definitely need a strong cushion as I sit for 12+ hours a day and my tailbone hurts like mad. Both Herman Miller and Steelcase' chairs are on sale here so probably a good time to buy. But still crazy expensive even on sale. Hope someone has some suggestions
Hot tip, if you are extremely limited in budget because your ex-wife took everything except your pickup truck and dog, find a nearly new or slightly used WorkPro Quantum 9000, probably the best Aeron knock-off, can get you through the hard times until you earn enough to get back into a legit S-tier chair. But expect it not to last as materials/workmanship is sub-par compared to the real thing, especially the armrests and it's somewhat noisy.
No offence to Secret Lab but their chairs are so over hyped, they're well built but for $500-$700 you'd expect a difference experience than sitting on a rock.
These reviews used to seem a lot more unbiased. Now you say Humanscale sucks….you guys used to not be able to stop drooling over it. I suspect Humanscale is a frustrating company to work with from a sales standpoint and they likely don’t support your guys attempts to resell their premium chairs at significantly discounted prices and therefore this once S tier chair in your opinion has been relegated unreasonably to the C tier garbage can of office chairs. I’d believe the review more if you explained why in the past you loved it so much and now you all don’t like it anymore. It used to be on your Top 5 chair list. Now you ALL hate it??? To quote you from your past video: “after spending 10 days in this chair, it is hands down the best in the business. I found no matter where I reclined to in the Freedom, it had no problem locking into a position where I could work comfortably. “. Keep it real guys, otherwise these reviews are worthless for people like me looking to invest lots of money in nice pieces of furniture.
I sit in the Aeron Remastered probably 16 hours a day for most of the week. I can tell you the main issue with it is probably the seat curvature and that you can't slide it forward or back. Thankfully this chair has corrected my neck pain, so I can say I love this chair a lot :3 ( S tier headrest add on also purchased separately for this chair, I forgot who made it though... )
I just can’t believe this channel has so many in depth chair videos like don’t get me wrong I appreciate it but how does someone get into chairs like this lol
Do a test where you guys have to sleep in the office chair. Sometimes I recline back, put my feet up on something and watch videos or movies on my computer. Which are the best chairs for that?
checking out the Haworth chairs since I get corporate discounts with them. Might have to ditch this cheap amazon chair and go with the Fern. 8-10hrs a day sitting can be dreadful without proper equipement
I finally retired my Leap v2 after getting the Embody. I just purchased the Embody and Fern to do a side-by-side comparison, it was a hard decision but I ended up returning the Fern. Been using the Embody for about 2 months now and it's definitely an improvement over the Leap.
@@btodtv Digital knit and no lumbar. It was a really nice chair. I wanted to keep both of them but I couldn't justify it lol. In the end I kept the Embody because it felt a bit more supportive for me. I'd say they are the 2 best chairs I've sat in though for sure. Really can't go wrong with either.
So, I am looking for a good chair that I can use for many hours a day (5+) I need good back support and my budget is around $500 - 600, the problem is I live in Sweden and need a chair that can be shipped here. Any recomendations?
I can't take advice from someone unless I see their car seat settings. I have a sports car and a station wagon. I'm almost laying all the way down in both of them. I want to feel cupped in, my biggest gripe is the harsh seat. I don't have a big butt and I need the padding for my bony as*. Any advice?
Hello, you talk about the chair from Secret Lab but you didn’t talk about the NobleChairs. I have a NobleChair Hero in my office and I really like the back support that this chair offers. I'm 6'8''.
Hi, im in the uk so I don't think I will have the same choice, but I am desperate to get a new office chair, i was hoping you could tell me which one is the softest seating you have tried? have one that was custom made with tailbone cut out as ive had it removed but the extra foam is still too hard and I get numb legs and feet and sitting pain at the back of my thighs and butt. I need some sort of seating that is pressure relief and takes away my body movement and I really loved the humanscale diffrient world chair when I tried it as it did everything i wanted, but for sitting all day its not good because you can't really adjust it, there's no headrest and you start to touch the frame. Unfortunately all these companies i have contacted don't have any demo chairs to try even without any custom modifications and therefore despite having over a 2k budget for a chair, I am too scared to buy anything incase it comes its exactly like the one I have now which is an adapt that I can't actually sit on still. You wouldn't buy a sofa without sitting on it so why should I be expected to spend thousands on a chair but not know if its right for me because they don't have any for me to try first? Seems crazy to me!
I never sat in a secret lab chair until my friend bought one recently and wanted me to try it because he loved hit. Worst chair I've sat on. Super hard, stiff and overall not comfortable. Looks great, but that's not what it's about. Saving up to get an HM embody. Untill then, I'm sticking to my trusty IKEA Markus😂
Any of these chairs that have a plastic star frame where the wheel stalks dock into make them a immediate F tier for me. I need to customise my wheels with rollerblade wheels and I want robust metal wheel stalk ports. If you're paying in the region of $1k USD, you are a fool for getting a plastic chair frame IMO.
I have a Steelcase Executive Leap in leather and nothing tops this. Steve Jobs at Apple had six of these high end chairs in bright red for his many video meetings. Steelcase seems not to offer these $3800.00 Leaps any more. Sad!!!
Is the Gesture really that bad? I'm a heavy guy and I'm tall. It seems to have the best weight rating for most of these chairs. I'm looking at buying one but when you guys talk about, even with the B rating, you seem to hate on it.
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Love how quick and no-nonsense this video is. Tier lists don't need to have an intro!
Often times I feel they do. I want to know what criteria is being considered in the ranking or any possible biases.
Yes! It's so smooth! Best chair video I've seen RUclips, and by now, I've seen over a 100!
Why do they not need an intro?
@@thawtianajawnson30 What needs to be said that isn't in the title? Ex:
What is the video about? Ranking the best office chairs in a tier list
How many chairs? 30
What are they ranked on? Comfort
I was REALLY surprised that the video started right away. No intro, no talking, no unnecessary bullsht. In today's age, that is AMAZING. Top quality stuff.
What's wrong with having an intro?
My advice for anyone trying to get a desktop chair is go to an actual store. I was about to buy online based on reviews but something told me to just go to the store instead. I found the experience much like going to get a mattress. It’s best to try for yourself before buying as every body has different needs. What’s comfy for others might be torture for you. I went to the store thinking I would get one chair and walked out with something completely different. You can always check online for the same chair you liked in person to see if you find a better deal. So glad i went.
This is what I did and I bought a HP omen gaming chair. For me it fits very well
Yup, agreed. I went to a Herman Miller seller and ended up really disliking the Embody, it was uncomfortable for me right from the spot. On the other hand, I thought the Mirra would be uncomfortable because of the more rigid back rest but I loved it, it was the best IMO, even better than the Aeron. I only wish I it was possible to test the chair for a full work hour day lol, but the limited test at a store is still better than buying solely based on internet reviews. This video is truly helpful though, I probably wouldn't even test the Mirra if they didn't rank it higher as they did, so I'm glad this video exists
I can't find a store nearby
I wish your chair reviews/rankings included more diversity in body types. All three of you are 6+ feet tall men, but I'm a 5'1" lady and want to find a chair where my feet firmly touch the ground.
If they include Taylor, who is 5'2", then this would definitely be more useful for viewers like you.
Also, I believe Ryan is just under 6 feet tall.
I’m a small guy, and if you have any decent sized table, you need a foot rest, preferably memory foam, to provide elbow ergonomics and proper position.
Yep! I hate to break it to you, but women also need good task chairs! I'm 5'5". Some of these chairs are too far off the ground at their lowest settings.
Ive been mad over the lamia but if your offering it...
All good chairs goes around $1k LOL
Another solid tier list video guys. 👍
I don't think I've ever seen a gaming chair in the B tier before, but considering how the Mavix M9 looks absolutely nothing like a racing car seat, speaks volumes.
Its just a 1500 dollar office chair with a racing seat "skin" on it.
When will the full review of Robert's kitchen chair come out? Next year, April 1st?
I asked how much it would be to buy it for BTOD's chair collection. He said we couldn't afford it....haha -Greg
“Oh that’s a cool chair I think I would really like”, checks price. $800. OK never mind
Will you do a review of the atlas headrest that was recently released for the herman miller embody?
You should have put current prices next to each chair otherwise its hard to compare the value 😢
Ya, this is what I'm struggling with too. I don't want to drop over 600 on a chair when there is a 300 that is just a little less features.
@@jaykuptake It's because they're not ranking chairs based on their value, but as is evident in this tier list, the top tier chairs are generally more expensive.
Honestly came to the comments just to see if somebody listed the price of each one so i can know which ones in my prace range and whats for me
I've owned my SecretLab Titan chair for roughly 2 years now and it's at the point where it's killing my back. I wish I didn't make the investment. Currently on the market for an ergonomic office chair, and I find your video to be helpful. I'm leaning toward the Leap V2 or Embody.
i regretted buying the titan, the seat is way too stiff.
@@random0693 Same experience here.
went from the Titan to the Haworth Soji and have no regrets
I personally like the stiffness of the secret lab. I guess it's personal preference
Honestly so happy to see the HONEST reviews of SecretLabs. I found their chairs to be so uncomfortable, but their outstanding marketing made me feel there was no way and that it must've been me. Ended up selling the chair and losing money on it cause I felt it would "take time to break in".. and it just never did.
I've had my secret lab for 4+ years and it's still hard as a rock.
There are so many biased reviews about the Titan on RUclips, from ppl who accepted some form of payment from Secretlab to promote their garbage chairs.
how did you sell it?
@@akydan8405 OfferUp.. locally. Lost about $200 versus what I paid.. but it wasn’t worth keeping it being uncomfortable at my desk for hours.
S Tier Chairs @ 0:01 , 9:18 , and 18:38 + the Leap @ 6:37
Wow This must be a lot of preference. 15:41 Staples Hyken is my chair and has been for 7 years now, I absolutely love this chair specifically the way the mesh sits I find so comfortable.
I also have the Hyken. That thing is so comfortable and keeps my butt cool.
@@clivemyrie4209 my brother bought this chair recently im 6'1 200lbs and its nice but not long enough half my legs were hanging off the chair and on top of that,its very snug no room on the sides.
Like this if you want to see BTOD review the Andaseat Kaiser 3 instead of the Titan
My bottom hurts with the embody. Its disconcerting to see it so highly rated and then it be terribly uncomfortable. I've made several adjustments, watched customization videos. I'm not sure where to go next when the best doesn't work for me. Thanks for any help.
After having a month to break into it, is it more comfortable now?
nice vid but simply can’t agree with aeron in b tier. I’ve sat in embody, leap V2 and gesture and prefer the aeron hands down largely due to the breathability of mesh and the 10/10 rocking mechanism. frame problems depend on your body type plus how you adjust the chair. it’s not for everyone.
for me it’s the easiest s tier pick of my life. to each their own.
I would love to see a video with STYLISH office chairs that doesn't look like the captains seat from a space ship. Something you can have in your living room :)
As someone who is currently suffering through the post purchase of a Secret Labs Titan, I appreciate this list of straightforward reviews of office chairs. I agree with everything you listed about the Titan; hard as a rock, stiff, mediocre recline and adjustability. I have never had a chair cause me so much pain. I literally have 3 support cushions and it barely makes the chair useable.
Cheap Chinese crap is usually a disappointment
I found the opposite to be true about my XL. I can adjust it to the exact ergonomic state I wish to stay in for long typing sessions, and the head rest really helps when I lean back to read something while not typing. Maybe the non-XL are just not as good? I have heard others complain about non-XL but haven't seen any complaints about the XL. Maybe they fixed the issues you are having with it?
Idk, it's working out pretty well for me
yeah. dunno how long i have been usint this titan but it still holds on. and im heavy. and i use it a lot. hours and hours gaming. no issues. havent tryed others so cant compare :D
gaming chairs are mostly for looks ngl
Im a big guy with some weight (155kg) I have to buy every year a new chair because it breaks even so the chairs are sold as 200kg supported. Which chair would you recommend to me? So far i hat a HJ office instructor, Diablo Chair X-Player XL and a Killerbee XL just since 2019. I really dont know if its worth it to buy a expensive chair because the HJ Office was 450€ and break the fastes. Feels so frustating because if i look for chairs up to 200kg i only get reviews who copy paste the marketing blabla but they all seem to lie when it comes to max supported weight.
TLDR: Most chairs are bad because I'm tall
I watched a lot of these videos and ended up going with the Embody last year. Finding the perfect chair for me was a difficult task! I'm 6'3, 215lbs and pretty wide lower body. Tried multiple chairs, and the Embody is hands down the best chair I've owned or sat in. It's the only seat wide enough, has decent seat depth (would like 1 more inch) and comfort is just off the charts. When I get up from this chair, it doesn't even feel like I've been sitting, whether it's been 1 hour or 8. The price is completely bonkers and cost more than my computer, but at the end of the day, invest in your health!
had herman miller aeron chair with headrest for 7 years and counting. great comfort for small built like me. lockable recline. mesh seats, for ventilation unlike foams seats/cushions that absorbs sweat for long periods of seating. so, comfort and hygiene is definitely an edge.
I’ve sat in foam chairs regularly for well over 10 years and have never had a problem with sweating. I definitely have not experienced so much sweat that it goes all the way through my clothes and into my chairs seat. If that’s happening to you, then I think there are different problems that need to be addressed than simply moving to a mesh seat. -Ryan
I can buy a car for cheaper than the Embody.
Price is an important factor and because this was not mentioned at all, I find no value in these reviews.
No mention of "alternative" seating positions either, which I guess you aren't supposed to do, but the truth is, everyone indulges in a slump or legs-on-table recline or a legs-under-butt position every once in a while. I frequently change positions, from focued to relaxed to all over the place.
Absolutely agree, in my country Secret Lab Titan costs around 400 USD, but any other chair they mentioned costs like 800+ usd
Just bought my Leap V2 because of you guys. Thank you again, can't wait to get it! I work from home and spend 12-18 hours a day in my chair. I NEED THIS!
Hope you enjoy it! It is an awesome chair -Greg
12-18 hours.... bruh
How is it man? What are ur thoughts? Btw could u tell me whats ur height and weight please?
I swear these guys haven’t sat in half these chairs. Aeron over a secret labs, do you not have nerves in your butt? TF?
I was one of the ones unfortunately duped by Secret Lab's marketing. Between their shills on RUclips and various websites giving their Titan Evo's 5 stars almost everywhere, I thought; "why wouldn't I get one?" Well for anyone reading this comment; the reason you shouldn't get one is because aesthetically they might be one the best gaming chair on the market; but for it's ACTUAL intended function; which is sitting comfortably for long gaming sessions; you're better off buying a chair made out of stone.
I ended up ordering the Embody after getting to try it out. Can't wait for it to arrive. Also can't wait to order and get the head rest! my current chair is killing me.
I keep sliding down or slouching on my embody chair for some reason. I've tried a let rest but that doesn't stop me either from subconsciously moving my butt forward. Anyone had this issue ?
@@Stiggy771 maybe extend the seat base out further? Havent had that problem yet. I noticed this chair really wants you to lock your butt in the back as far as possible.
Hello. What's ur opinion on it? Is it as comfortable as u expected?
@@antongromov8093 It got rid of all my back pain. Love this chair. I will say though they kind of mislead you. IF you dont like the chair you have to pay to ship it back and pay a stocking fee. Would have came out to like $400 for me.... My rent went up $300 after I got the chair and I really cant afford the payments. BUT I wasnt about to lose $400 if I sent it back.
i can sit in the Embody all day so worth the price. fuck those gaming chairs never again.
Glad you guys also loved the Embody -- I went through trying 10 different office chairs, a lot of them expensive, until also making the same conclusion that the Embody is the most comfortable chair for office or gaming use. Since switching to one right at the start of COVID, I no longer get any back pain. It's the only chair I've ever used that you can sit in for 12+ hours and feel completely fine the next day with no soreness or stiffness. S-Tier all the way.
Wish you included Kinnarps chairs
Oddly enough, the Hyken is great for me. I work from home and I'm also a PC gamer, so I spend a LOT of time in the one I have. Mine is about 3 years old and I sit in it every day. I'm a bigger guy, at 5'10" and 240lbs and I don't contact the frame at all. The mesh is compliant but still supportive. What I ended up changing about it was actually the casters and adding armrest pads. Still, for the money, even with the changes, I'm perfectly happy with it.
yeah im a bit skeptical, i have the dexley which is pretty much the same as the hyken and I don't have any major complaints, its been very comfortable and also way cheaper than the competition. its not perfect but if you're on a budget its not bad at all
@@tubbycustard8866 Give it a couple years and you may be changing your mind. It's the reason I am looking for another chair today. It was great for about a year and half, but it has bottomed out and now I sit on plastic underneatht he mesh and I work 8-10 hours from home. I can be numbing to say the least.. Now I am looking for something higher end to hopefully last longer than 5 years. I can get a great deal on the Aeron like new used, but now this list got me second guessing..
Also 5'10 and have the Hyken, and it's been super comfortable, no problems with the mesh or contacting the frame.
Just recently got one myself; I'm 6'0" and around 180 lbs and I have to say for the pricepoint this seat is pretty great. Very supportive, yet also plenty of comfort for a full day of work or watching movies when tilted back. Was pretty surprised they rated it so low though... It is easily one of the highest value chairs for the money by comparison.
They forgot the soji :(
I've had the Embody Gaming chair for 3 months and unfortunately it isn't for me. Thought I'd get used to it after a couple months, but it still hurts my back. Not what I was expecting, although it is 'pretty'. Wish I would have tried it first, though.
I’ve had the embody for 2 weeks and experience lower back pain. I can feel both the right and lower pixel frame dig in. Is that the same for you? Luckily I’m still in the 30 day return window. Next runner up will be the Haworth Fern Digital Knit
@@bmuhlbach02 It's somewhat similar. Lower to middle back pain for me. Not a lot, but a lot more than I got from my previous $150-ish Amazon chair. Also, just sitting in it is a bit awkward. Have to adjust so I feel like I'm sitting straight up in it. Just weird for a ~$1500 chair. Others may have different experiences, so try it, if you can, before buying!
@@bmuhlbach02 John Sarno would like a word with you...
wow didnt expect the secret lab chair to be that bad, seeing that almost every streamer and esports event uses them
Most of those streamers get paid to use Secretlab chairs, and they also make a commission whenever viewers buy a chair via their affiliate links.
Secretlab is great at marketing, and by doing brand deals with so many streamers, it ends up being an easy win-win for both parties.
The same goes for companies that host esports events.
However, certain streamers like Ninja, Timthetatman, NickMercs, etc... have switched to ergonomic office chairs, because they've realised that racing style gaming chairs are terrible.
Dude said, "Nueue, Jose you should buy this chair!" 😂 earned my like with that joke!
The Herman Miller Logictec Embody gaming chair is the best chair I have ever owned. Not found even a close second. It is the real deal!❤😁👍🏻
The Steelcase Series I is an embarrassment of a chair. It destroys your lower back. I'm 5'8" 145 and it's terrible. I bought it becuase my wife raved about it, but it's the worst chair I've ever owned.
Hawthorn Fern is a garbage chair. Idk why people on YT rate it so high other than the fact theyre paid to do so. QA/QC is garabge. The Embody is also crappy chair. It is the noisiest chair for almost $2K...which is a ridiculous price in its own right.
working control room for years i bought my self a 24/7 Operator / Control room chair. i would never go back to anything else. Now these kind of chairs makes the herman miller Embody chair look cheap but. nothing compare to these kind of chairs
Why? Like why...Absolute diq move to arrange the video randomly w/800 chairs, instead of best to worst, for example.
Embody archest are horrible. It doesn't allows you sitting close to the desk because it doesn't adjust to back. I stated before, the chair is cheap. $600 max instead is so overrated that they ask +2K.
It’s crazy how low the titan gets rated. I love mine and took it to my office to work in. I bought the gaming embody in that awesome galaxy color. Doing the return process right now and bought another titan. Is the embody better? Yea absolutely, is it 4 times the cost better? Fuuuuuuck nooooo
I don't get premium brands that start making cheap options just to capture more market share, like the Series 1. It dilutes the brand and ruins first experiences. I'm not trying to gatekeep, it's still an expensive chair, but it's a really bad expensive chair.
Awesome deserves an A+ category IMO. Chair is nearly perfect but the new models could do with a more custom adjustable lumbar support.
I’m so glad you guys shared your heights! As a 5’4 man it makes it easier for me to decided which one to get. Thank you for the review. I really need a chair cuz gaming lately has been hurting my back.
and im stuck what chair i should buy for gaming,office at home max 600 euro budget. :D i got lower back pain from the racing style chairs.
Why the hell does it cost the price of a HIGH END GRAPHICS CARD just to get good ergonomic support on a chair?
It's next to impossible to find these chairs second hand or refurbished in the UK. Every time I search for high end ergo chairs in the UK I get recommended your videos xD RUclips needs better location segmentation sometimes ... I got all excited for nothing lol
Saggy mesh🗿hard plastic 🗿worse than Robert’s kitchen chair 🗿
I have maxed out Aeron remastered (silver legs, leather armrests, headrest from Atlas etc) and I love everything about this chair except the fact I cannot sit in "weird" positions because of the rigid frame. But is it really something to dislike? I'm going to buy super comfy living room armchair and use it everytime I want to lift my legs and work on stuff being half asleep.
Getting the best chair that works for your body is totally worth the investment. Cheap chair is your worst enemy, especially if you use them for 8 hours a day.
I recently returned my leap for a gesture. I really miss the leap and I can't return the gesture now so stuck with it
The Haworth fern digital knit, with lumbar support, has single-handedly eliminated my discomfort while siting for work. I have medical related back issues and this has dramatically improved my sitting experience.
Nice! Hopefully we helped you find that chair :) -Greg
@@btodtv You did actually. I watched dozens of your videos before finally making the purchase. I was in between the Haworth and the Embody. I am similar to your height and had heard your comment in a previous videos regarding the embody curling your shoulders in. I found a local dealer and experienced the same thing, pushing me towards the fern. I was hesitant to spend this kind of money on a chair, however working from home in the chair 8+ hours a day, I have no regrets.
It's always great to see people having positive experiences with proper ergonomic chairs.
I'm looking to buy the Fern. I'm between a mesh vs digital knit. Do you feel like the digital knit is breathable (and comfortable) enough? Or would you have preferred the mesh version? TIA.
Where would you put Asus Destrier on the last?
How tall are you guys? I tried 30 chairs and none is suitable for my 195 cm height
Lol chairs aren’t one size fits all when you buy a chair first try it until you decide but always try don’t trust somebody else opinion. The chair is for you not for the guy 😂
I dont know gesture rank bro ... One of your vidéo you say gesture better than embody and fern ... Are you troll ?
How about music studio chairs, You lean forward while editing tracks and often when using a keyboard, I don't spend a lot of time leaning back while working on music. It would need the arms adjustable to move out of the way when playing guitar. What chair would you advise under 350.00 for music studio?
how can any chair without a head rest be S tier? that is so weird to me
Because we don't value a headrest as much as you do and these rankings are based on our opinions :) -Greg
@@btodtv Ok thanks Greg. Still feels really bad spending almost $2,000 and having to buy an aftermarket headrest that the company does not even sell - which voids the warranty upon install. Feels bad - and is really weird.
Love your chair rankings but, I think you need someone petite providing their insight and picks.
I'm 5'9, 26yo 160lbs and my back is destroyed. The past month I've been unable to stand up straight, can barely move my body, and getting up off the chair is so painful. I'm pretty sure I have undiagnosed fibromyalgia (extremely fragile, stiff, sensitive and sore body)
For the past year I've been using a $100 "ergo" chair but the foam was flattened after a week, and now it's like sitting on a plastic board.
I'm fed up of this chair, want to stop being in pain, but don't know what to get. I "could" afford an Embody, etc, but that price is just crazy and hard to justify. I was about to order the Steelcase series one at $400 but you guys put it in D tier. Most chairs here do not ship to UK so my options are limited. I definitely need a strong cushion as I sit for 12+ hours a day and my tailbone hurts like mad. Both Herman Miller and Steelcase' chairs are on sale here so probably a good time to buy. But still crazy expensive even on sale. Hope someone has some suggestions
Hot tip, if you are extremely limited in budget because your ex-wife took everything except your pickup truck and dog, find a nearly new or slightly used WorkPro Quantum 9000, probably the best Aeron knock-off, can get you through the hard times until you earn enough to get back into a legit S-tier chair. But expect it not to last as materials/workmanship is sub-par compared to the real thing, especially the armrests and it's somewhat noisy.
WTH man.😂
No offence to Secret Lab but their chairs are so over hyped, they're well built but for $500-$700 you'd expect a difference experience than sitting on a rock.
These reviews used to seem a lot more unbiased. Now you say Humanscale sucks….you guys used to not be able to stop drooling over it. I suspect Humanscale is a frustrating company to work with from a sales standpoint and they likely don’t support your guys attempts to resell their premium chairs at significantly discounted prices and therefore this once S tier chair in your opinion has been relegated unreasonably to the C tier garbage can of office chairs. I’d believe the review more if you explained why in the past you loved it so much and now you all don’t like it anymore. It used to be on your Top 5 chair list. Now you ALL hate it??? To quote you from your past video: “after spending 10 days in this chair, it is hands down the best in the business. I found no matter where I reclined to in the Freedom, it had no problem locking into a position where I could work comfortably. “. Keep it real guys, otherwise these reviews are worthless for people like me looking to invest lots of money in nice pieces of furniture.
You lost me when yo said that we all used to drool over Humanscale. -Ryan
Can u put chairs price in video captions next time
I sit in the Aeron Remastered probably 16 hours a day for most of the week. I can tell you the main issue with it is probably the seat curvature and that you can't slide it forward or back. Thankfully this chair has corrected my neck pain, so I can say I love this chair a lot :3 ( S tier headrest add on also purchased separately for this chair, I forgot who made it though... )
Atlas Headrest makes those Aeron and Embody Headrests and they are amazing
@@cahawaiian1 Yeah that is the oneee
That is a long grind in any chair. Glad you've found something that works, but sitting breaks are you friend :) -Greg
@@btodtv Working on that remedy. I built standup desk, it is more of a matter of having a side computer now in tandem with my work computer XD
it’s an incredible chair. s tier imo. I also have the atlas headrest on mine.
Embody normal or Gaming Logitech ? what are the differences ?
Can't read your chart. Too small. No way to duplicate for reference.
How can you compare a $170 or so chair to like a chair thats over $1000?
Tbh more than half of these looks like they fit you if you are 170 cm 60 kg
Will you review Asus ROG Destrier gaming chair?
I just can’t believe this channel has so many in depth chair videos like don’t get me wrong I appreciate it but how does someone get into chairs like this lol
Is there something personal between you and Secret Lab, or you genuinely believe their both options are even worse than the Serta Smart Layers?😂
No offence, I watch and appreciate all your videos guys, just chatting
One makes your butt go numb...it is unsittable for me -Greg
holy shit you guys got straight to the point lmao. its refreshing honestly
you should put the prices on the list so poor people can find something in there budget
Do a test where you guys have to sleep in the office chair. Sometimes I recline back, put my feet up on something and watch videos or movies on my computer. Which are the best chairs for that?
checking out the Haworth chairs since I get corporate discounts with them. Might have to ditch this cheap amazon chair and go with the Fern. 8-10hrs a day sitting can be dreadful without proper equipement
I finally retired my Leap v2 after getting the Embody. I just purchased the Embody and Fern to do a side-by-side comparison, it was a hard decision but I ended up returning the Fern. Been using the Embody for about 2 months now and it's definitely an improvement over the Leap.
Interesting...what was your config for the Fern? -Greg
@@btodtv Digital knit and no lumbar. It was a really nice chair. I wanted to keep both of them but I couldn't justify it lol. In the end I kept the Embody because it felt a bit more supportive for me. I'd say they are the 2 best chairs I've sat in though for sure. Really can't go wrong with either.
I also bought a Fern and returned it after 3 weeks or so. Didnt like the seat, made my tailbone feel numb. Bought a regular Embody and love it.
Call me poor but for $2k+ does the Embody also provide a happy ending?
@@hankkingsley9183 Lol it should for that price. But I guess my back is happy at the end of the day, so I'll say it's worth it.
Not having the approximate cost of the chair always showing bothers me
yeah, and companies like haworth seem to go out of their way to hide the prices by making you contact them first, can't stand companies that do this
so unless you have a grand to spend on a chair prepare for back and neck pain lol
S: Lamia
S: Herman Miller Embody Logitech Gaming
S: Haworth Fern
A: Steelcase Leap
A: Steelcase Amia
A: Zody II
So, I am looking for a good chair that I can use for many hours a day (5+) I need good back support and my budget is around $500 - 600, the problem is I live in Sweden and need a chair that can be shipped here. Any recomendations?
Can you get a shorter person (
ugh all they chairs they like are above $700
I can't take advice from someone unless I see their car seat settings. I have a sports car and a station wagon. I'm almost laying all the way down in both of them. I want to feel cupped in, my biggest gripe is the harsh seat. I don't have a big butt and I need the padding for my bony as*. Any advice?
Hello, you talk about the chair from Secret Lab but you didn’t talk about the NobleChairs. I have a NobleChair Hero in my office and I really like the back support that this chair offers. I'm 6'8''.
What would be cool is a link to a pdf that shows the results tables and price next to each chair 🪑
Has anyone tried the Hinomi H1? Is it any good?
Hi, im in the uk so I don't think I will have the same choice, but I am desperate to get a new office chair, i was hoping you could tell me which one is the softest seating you have tried? have one that was custom made with tailbone cut out as ive had it removed but the extra foam is still too hard and I get numb legs and feet and sitting pain at the back of my thighs and butt. I need some sort of seating that is pressure relief and takes away my body movement and I really loved the humanscale diffrient world chair when I tried it as it did everything i wanted, but for sitting all day its not good because you can't really adjust it, there's no headrest and you start to touch the frame. Unfortunately all these companies i have contacted don't have any demo chairs to try even without any custom modifications and therefore despite having over a 2k budget for a chair, I am too scared to buy anything incase it comes its exactly like the one I have now which is an adapt that I can't actually sit on still. You wouldn't buy a sofa without sitting on it so why should I be expected to spend thousands on a chair but not know if its right for me because they don't have any for me to try first? Seems crazy to me!
I never sat in a secret lab chair until my friend bought one recently and wanted me to try it because he loved hit. Worst chair I've sat on. Super hard, stiff and overall not comfortable. Looks great, but that's not what it's about. Saving up to get an HM embody. Untill then, I'm sticking to my trusty IKEA Markus😂
Any of these chairs that have a plastic star frame where the wheel stalks dock into make them a immediate F tier for me. I need to customise my wheels with rollerblade wheels and I want robust metal wheel stalk ports. If you're paying in the region of $1k USD, you are a fool for getting a plastic chair frame IMO.
I have a Steelcase Executive Leap in leather and nothing tops this. Steve Jobs at Apple had six of these high end chairs in bright red for his many video meetings. Steelcase seems not to offer these $3800.00 Leaps any more. Sad!!!
Rated a kneeling chair over the gaming chairs😂
why didnt you have the embody standard non gaming version on this list? The gaming and standard do have some differences.....
Is there a reason that you don’t talk about the Sayl? Is is too small for all of you?
We talk about it, just didn't make this list. Have to stop at 30 or it would be an hour long haha -Greg
Is the Gesture really that bad? I'm a heavy guy and I'm tall. It seems to have the best weight rating for most of these chairs. I'm looking at buying one but when you guys talk about, even with the B rating, you seem to hate on it.