M2 MacBook Air vs. The Rest
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- My review of the 2022 M2 MacBook Air, the best macbook for students. against the m1 macbook air and the best windows laptops that are in the same class
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i think if m2 air had launched at $999, windows laptops would be a lot cheaper this year
Absolutely, just like with the iPhone X $1000 phone trend
Windows 11 also boosted the Windows laptop sales so Apple’s pricing is just wrong. They might regret it and make it cheaper on other stores like Amazon.
12th gen intel also put intel back in the game although we need an cpu architecture update..
gosh the apple fan shit is back again. look, your dear m2 can beat whatever Intel amd you want but most don't give an F about Mac
Lots of Ryzen U and H (without dgpu) laptops are coming this year. Please make a video like this in December. I'd really really appreciate it. 🙏
Fantastic video. Cuts right to the chase and delivers some solid, actionable consumer advice.
One thing which wasn't covered was what you should do if you occasionally have Windows use-cases (read: light gaming) in addition to doing all the stuff that ultrabooks are designed to do. Would you still go for the gigachad macbook air and "deal with it" when there are times that you just can't do what you want? Or would you pay for a Windows machine that's going to be slightly worse in most cases, but where you're not having to sweat weird software compatibility issues, etc. etc.
For a class of hardware that's now solidly in the $1200-1300 ballpark just to get in the door (aside from the M1 and the HP) I feel like you shouldn't have to make that compromise. 🤷♂
Still sucks that I can't play mainstream games directly on it
During Amazon Prime week, I saw the M1 MacBook Air on sale for $849 or $899. I could be wrong, but I think I saw that price at Amazon and MicroCenter.
I had never seen it on sale before.
I've been happy that to the version of Mac that I decided to try, I landed on the M1, I havent had any Macs before except for baked mac 😄, but as a lifelong windows user up til' now, this thing was just reliable AF, and battery was phenomenal. I can go all day plus half the next. I dont have to worry If I forgot to charge it and left with a 40 to 50% battery leaving the house, I know it will endure before the day's end that I really need to juice it up when it hits 20.
Your content is so good, so to the point.
Finally someone being unbiased about MBA 2 👍👍👍👏👏
Im getting the m2 because latest and greatest usually lasts longer with support
Don't like to work with MAC...didn't in 1996 and don't nowadays; as a Field Service Technician.
Im so undecided, 14inch 2021 macbook pro or macbok air m2? both 16gb and 512 ram
The fact that companies last year refused to have their laptops be compared to the M1 MacBook Air very much shows just how good the M1 Air was, and still is. It really shows that people who own the M1 Air should not have to worry about missing out on the latest and greatest
Yes Apple has some amazing engineers, im not going to say otherwise. However, i think part of why the M1 was so receptive and amazing, was that TSMC's 5nm was pretty much just allocated a huge margin of its production to apple for its first 2-3 years.
The latest offerings from AMD laptops, 6nm, are starting to get there, however the true test will be Zen4 vs M1 / M2. Same Node (5nm, and only to some extent each company will have their own internal secret sauce), same year release, different companies.
If Apple moves to 3nm at TSMC and secures another huge exclusivity agreement, then that again will keep Apples lead. Regardless of how good the architecture actually is.
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Those AMD systems increasingly are becoming more and more attractive over Intel offerings. Amazing what competition brings out, the best of companies, which in turn benefits us, consumers.
Do you mean the AMD Advantage laptops?
AMD advantage laptops price to performance ratio are getting better compared to competition 😯
@@juusomaenpaa7236 not even the advantage edition just the ryzen 6000 APU's they seem to have excellent integrated graphics and are really powerful while being efficient and delivering almost m1 levels of performance
I agree, If I buy a ultrabook, I will consider to buy Ryzen 6800U APU because it has powerful multi core performance and gaming/igpu performance(2x more powerful than Intel XE iGPU). Intel sucks when you look at an ultrabook which hasn't discreate GPU.
I need thunderbolt on AMD
I got the M1 Air in April this year, my first ever Mac. I knew I was taking a risk ahead of the impending M2 but I am just blown away by how good it is. Better still, I got it on refurb and now no one in my country can get a refurb anymore till the trade-ins get refitted and cleaned, which could take months.
I'm still using a 2011 MacBook Air for most of my browsing and daily low intensity tasks. The things age incredibly well.
I’m looking to get an m1 right now. It’s better imo
@@mowgli6345 as long as your os is on an ssd and you have at least 4 cores, then most computers age well.
Whats the price for refurbrished?
@@princecat91 US$850 but you can check your local online store. Stock just came back a few days ago too. They prepare those refurbs fast! As fast as repair turnaround times. Must have gone back to the same subcontractor factory for refitting.
I was heavily considering the MacBook Air M2 but the configuration that I'd want (16 GB RAM, 512 GB storage), it goes to $1600. I'd rather spend $150 more and get the 14" MacBook Pro that's on sale right now for $1750 for 16 GB RAM and 512 GB storage. You get a much better MiniLED display, 120 Hz and a much faster chip.
Thats perfect upselling from Apple 🤷🏻♂️. Nonetheless, i agree that the 14" MacBook Pro is the better deal 👍
I wish I could get that air for that cheap...
I got it on that same deal. As good as the Air is, the Pro 14 inch smokes it. Good buying while its on sale right now.
@Bzake with how the euro is going, that's about $1750 usd
ya the moment you get a highly upgraded config of the m2 air, the value element just melts away
I waited a whole year thinking that Macbook Air M1’s price will drop once the M2 comes out but surprisingly, it got even more expensive in my country. now I regret not getting the M1 a year ago when it was way cheaper than its current price right now 😩
That is not because they raised the price, but the general market demand increased it with inflation
Inflation sweetie
I just got the Pro M1 for 1,000 dlls tax included
Buy second hand.
The M1 is still a generation or more ahead of any other non-Apple offering. So, as long as it remains super competitive they won't lower the price. Shoulda got in on it.
I was looking forward to the new Air but with the bump in cost + how much Apple continues to charge for upgraded storage it's a hard pass for me. What I need it for it's too expensive for, what I want a more expensive laptop for, this can't do. For me it's in a weird place.
i 100% agree. as dave said, if you can sacrifice not getting the latest and greatest, just go with the gigachad m1 air. i myself just purchased the base model m2 air, but was able to get it at around $1000 with educational discount, making it much more palatable. that being said, i also could have purchased the m1 air for around $800 with the same discount, which is a damn right steal.
Yep, I would've gladly paid more for 16GB/512GB. But doing that on top of the flat price increase for the base? Guess my XPS 13 will be kicking around a little longer.
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I really don't understand Apple's pricing strategy. When the M1 first came out, the pricing was unreasonably reasonable. They all were priced to sell, especially the $700 Mac Mini and the Air. Now with the M2, the pricing is just reasonable. You do get a lot of screen, but little RAM and storage for the price.
@@bobweiram6321 I think that might have to do with boosting adoption. If the Air hadn't come at the price it did back then, people wouldn't have adopted Arm based laptops with such open arms (pun intended). Now that people know it's good, it makes business sense for them to charge more?
When you spec out the Air M2 with 16 GB RAM and 512GB which is what I recommend to future proof the Air for a few years you might as well spend $150 more and get the 14" Pro. Way better laptop. Add a Uniqfind clear case and you are good to go!
most users just don't need all that extra horse power i think the m2 air with the 10 core gpu is plenty for most users.
Future proof? You do know that small business, corporations, educational institutions, nonprofits, and ngos across the entire planet keep their computing devices for 5 to 7 years.
14" Laptops 🤮
Not sure if future proofing is all that great honestly, given the usual use case for users who use it as a web browsing machine, and to read documents, take video calls and what not. They won't be utilizing much space, let alone the ram. M2 is in a weird spot I agree, but would it not make sense to end up just getting the lowest spec machine the next year anyways and still expect it to perform well? Buy used, or certified refurb from Apple and still save some money that way and get good performance.
@@kairefeare Yes, to a point, but if you are spending 1200 to read documents, web browse and make calls then jesus what are you doing!!!! We know that things will be more demanding in a year or two so it would be a good idea to get the extra RAMM, but then you are at 1400! to do those tasks you mentioned, 1400!!!!!!!!!!!!!! My base macstudio only cost me 1780, sure no screen etc etc, but come on!
I can't recommend it enough, buying second-hand is a great option. I bought an up spec'd M1 Air (16GB, 10 Core M1 GPU, 1TB ) and it was for $800. A lot of mac people really really really take care of their latops so for me it was essentially brand new!
Yes, we do. Lol
I also bought a second-hand MBA back in 2013 (a 2012 model). I'm still using it for work now!
Same here, just be careful that you dont get scammed
where did you buy it from?
there is no 10 core m1 gpu lmao u mean 8 core
I’d say imagine the XPS was an AMD solution. Would be a much better product, but we all know about Intel and Dell’s relationship. Great video and great points. It’s unfortunate Apple raised the price.
That Zenbook seems like a solid machine. Almost comparable battery life to M2, better performance and in heavy usage it can actually sustain performance for longer not to mention faster and more SSD and more ram at the price, not to mention oled. I wish they looked nearly as good as xps devices. Al
I can only imagine what amd GPU+cpu combination can do in the future
I mean, compared to XPS 13 and MBA, the ZenBooks series are an absolute _steal._ They have an Intel 12th Gen model of ZenBook OLED model that starts at $649 in the US (walmart), and
Yeah and it isn't intel.
@@lars2894 they have to work on look and feel of some of the things . Many people think macbooks and xps have better everything because they're built more premium.
But other than that Asus is killing it . I hope someone like Dell or HP makes a premium laptop that's all amd
@@vedaryan334 agreed!
Asus is kinda killing it RN
It's a shame that most big tech tubers don't look at the lesser premium asus models like the vivobook
The vivobook 14X available in my country has a ryzen 7 with an RTX 3050 with a 90Hz oled panel. All that for 1000$. That laptop alone blows any MacBook Air out of the water in all segments (except battery life of course)
Agree on the looks. Every Zenbook I’ve seen just looks kinda cheap. Idk what about it, it just doesn’t feel as well crafted as a MacBook nor does it make you go wow at the gorgeous design of the XPS. It just looks cheap and generic.
The M1 Air is still my favorite laptop and I’m not surprised no one wanted to go toe to toe with it last year
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no actually the acer swift x is a pretty even competitor with the m1 air. its just too much under shadowed idk why. it costs $999, has a Ryzen 7 5800U, RTX 3050 (40W), 16GB LPDDR4X 4246MHz, 512GB SSD, a brilliant 1080p display (100%srgb, 80% adobe and p3), a premium feeling magnesium-alloy chassis, a very good keyboard, an average trackpad.
its value for money factor is a behemoth in my opinion but sadly it isnt advertised so well by reviewers. it was launched in may 2021. I have it and have compared it to my friend's mba and to be honest, even its speakers arent too much behind. in loudness theyre on par if not louder than the m1 mba but the mba wins in sound quality and bass.
me watching this on the m2 macbook air
Thats actually really cool context to know that the companies have to decide they want their laptop in the video or not
What's the surprise there? They're giving it to Dave for the video it's not like he's buying them all and then doing the comparison. In that case Dave could go on and compare whatever device of whatever company he wanted to compare and the companies couldn't decide a thing.
@@gauntr I think the surprise is that it's not Dave choosing to put laptops in this (which he was already given as a review unit for prior). Instead it's the companies choosing what they want to "enter" into the competition.
@@gauntr I mean, Dave gave opportunity to company to give a shot the latest and the most product instead of relying on 2nd or 3rd hand information
It's not like they were not aware with Apple
That's cause he's out there begging for free stuff. If he spent money on the laptops then he could test what ever he wants.
The best alternative to the M2 mba, is the M1 mba. You can easily get one in pristine condition in the second hand market for much much less. Got one with an 8gb 512gb config for $700 in PERFECT condition. No one can beat that.
what was the SSD usage? That defines the longevity of these unified memory machines.
I can't agree with you enough. Second hand M1 macbooks and mac minis are some of the best deals out there. If you don't want to deal with a sketchy used market, you can go for Apple refurbished too, which is slightly less of a good deal, but you get a guaranteed great product for a decent discount.
You can also literally still just buy one brand new from Apple
@@zeus1117 it was used normally for a year. It was a late 2020 model with applr care until next year. Battery health is still 100% and less than 30 cycles.
@@connorhd3201 yup, with the m1 having a price drop along with an edu discount, it's tough to beat.
Not going to lie, it feels pretty good to be constantly reminded that buying an M1 Air is probably the best purchase I've ever made
Never been this early before!
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For me, it’s not about the benchmarks. All of my windows laptops get slow and laggy and warm after a few months. My MacBook stays fast
yes. agree to this. I own several laptop from Asus and eventhough with regular update and file cleaning, my laptop still always slow and yes super laggy. I ended up sold them.
Weird none of my windows laptops ever do that. Do you happen to download a lot of stuff from shady websites? People who say their Windows machines get laggy over time either have no idea on how to maintain their PC or fill it with junk software which run on boot time and eat up resources in the background.
@@ufukpolat3480 no I’m a software dev. And a pc should not get significantly slower just by installing regular software. Sure, when you download loads of Trojans it’s no wonder your pc slows down. But I was using it mainly for MS office and just simple tasks made it super hot. 11th gen i3, sure not the best, but come on. M1 air was double the price but like 4x the user experience
@@SandwichMitGurke I'm fairly impartial towards Mac or Windows but you're truly comparing apples and oranges here.
@@SandwichMitGurke well you picked a terrible CPU to boot on a cheap yet overpriced machine.... what did you expect?
mac users always compared a 2010 Avenger to a 2010 GTR.... entirely different brackets of products and yet somehow are surprised
Asus and Lenovo are honestly killing it this year!
Which Lenovo model
Lenovo killed the 1.8mm key travel distance keyboard from all of their 2022 Thinkpad lineup… Lenovo killed its business brand completely. Fkn garbage products for 2022
No because windows OS is trash
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0:00 intro
1:46 M2 Macbook Air
2:21 Dell XPS 13 Plus
3:58 ASUS Zenbook S13
5:23 HP Aero 13
6:33 M1 Macbook Air
7:48 conclusions
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If you look at his older videos, he used to make way shorter videos. But he is still very good with information/minute
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@@Slada1 yes absolutely agreed Adam!
@@thejaideeparora thanks for the warning
M1 Air is a great device! Personally I enjoy the wedge design more than the new one
I tested the newer 13.6” MBA in a store and I 100% prefer the prior wedge shaped Air design (the 2015 MBA is even thinner at the front than the later wedge shape and yet still has more ports than any new MBA). It’s easier to pickup and carry and it’s MUCH nicer to use, thanks to the low approach angle for your wrists that makes the machine far more comfortable. It’s classic change for the sake of change. Unjustified change. The wedge shape feels more comfortable and looks more advanced. No doubt Apple will return to the wedge shape one day. I believe MBP should also be wedge shaped, albeit a thicker relative wedge. And MBA needs more ports, not more USB-4, but SD Card and HDMI. There are many out there who love thin and light be still require the convenience of not needing dongles without needing great power, giant SSD or large RAM or 120 Hz display. The old MBA (2015/2017) was the best machine out there at the time because it had both wedge thinness and port practicality and a great keyboard and a not too big trackpad (I think trackpads are too big now).
Nice video
For the battery tests, do the windows laptops use a low power profile with throttling?
I only just used a M2 machine and noticed that the default settings is full CPU power regardless of battery or power adapter; you have to change it over to low power mode on battery manually
I noticed a significant difference in battery life between them when the machine was under medium use or more.
Yeah, by default most windows laptops will severely throttle the cpu and gpu when on mobile power. Maybe that’s different for these new ones, which I haven’t tried.
At least MacOS has great battery life even in normal mode, and you can choose if to use low power mode.
@@Ferrichrome yeah; but the setting is inconveniently hidden, and can’t just be toggled like on iOS devices.
But their default is full power all the time so long as they’re not on fire.
So it seems maybe an unfair fight that they win anyway?
@@iZian yes, macOS would do even better if you enabled low power mode. On my MacBook Pro it goes down to a low refresh rate and maybe does some other things but I can’t tell. The battery is good even without that though, I just run it on regular mode all the time
@@iZianwdym hidden, isn’t it in the battery tab on the menu bar?
@@liamsz unless the latest update has added a toggle there: no
The setting up until 3 weeks ago was only in the battery lane in preferences and can’t be toggled on demand or for a set time; it’s either off, or always on, or always on when battery.
I don’t use it but I know from experience that when I tried it that the battery was lasting longer, at the expense of frame rate in a game I was playing.
Got my new M2 MacBook Air 16GB/512GB a few days early this past Saturday. It's a beautiful machine with build quality that's superior to any Dell XPS laptops I've owned. Space Grey looks good. I wanted Midnight but the scratch and fingerprint issues chased me away. I don't record/edit video so it runs smoothly and cool with Office 2021 apps and streaming video. Feels strange using it after over a year with my M1 iPad Pro 12.9" and magic keyboard. I keep reaching for the Air's screen to touch an icon or scroll through a website. Had no idea how acclimated I became with the iPad's touch screen. Same with the iPad’s Face ID vs. Touch ID on the Air. Face ID easily wins that battle. If I made the decision today, I'd return the Air and stick with my iPad + magic keyboard setup. Gotta give it at least a week, though. Never thought I'd be so comfortable with a tablet. Based on my 3 days of use, Apple is gonna sell a ton of these new Airs.
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I'm using an m1pro MacBook 14' - an amazing product for work, especially during the blackouts in Ukraine, 8h of use in AE and Figma with many different background processes.
Hope you and yours are safe.
Any ideas where to get it for the best(or even good) price?
Looking for one because of blackouts, but prices are extremely disappointing.
I'll stick with my MacBook Air M1 512 SSD 8GB Ram - 12 months old and doing fine, fine, fine.
8gb of ram and 256 gb of storage is a joke for $1200.
Interesting the AMD powered Zenbook is able to keep up with the M2 air
thought the same, either the zenbook is amazing or the macbook is overrated, probably both
I’ve had my eye on the zenbook forever! Just waiting for it to come out lol
Yeah I was also surprised. I wonder how well AMD chips will do against M2 and M1 on the same transistor node.
It's actually better I think. Comparable gpu , 10-15% better cpu, OLED screen and yet comparable battery , even on heavy usage not to mention it has much better sustained heavy usage and faster and more storage and ram for the price
@@vedaryan334 touchscreen too!
Dell is goofing.... imagine having even less io than a macbook air....
I'm eyeing the z13 oled instead of M2 MBA. If Apple didn't raise M2 MBA's price, it will be the only choice for me. So yeah, I agree with your conclusion.
m2 replacement? you already have an m2 machine and is already looking for something better?
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@@arthurtiradentes My bad, edited.
I have one. There's no screen like it. No going back from OLED. It's certainly fast enough for everything I want to do and the battery seems to last the whole day if I'm not gaming.
Z13 sucks.
Is this Asus S 13 model not available yet or is it already sold out?
AMD is killing it with battery to performance this year
against intel sure. against Apple ARM, not even close, especially under load.
@@zeus1117 I guess you can get so much out of the x86 architecture. Apple is the only one making high performance arm chips currently, and it looks like none of the other companies want to spend the massive r&d amount to make their own, unfortunately.
@@Steven-hq6df Apple can do it because it's an byproduct of the arm development for the iphone. Samsung could do it, but then it still has the problem of Windows x86 programs having to run under arm. Apple has the market power to get every software company that wants to sell MacOS software to compile for both Intel and Arm architecture.
@@zeus1117 I guess you never have run the m1/2 chips with a heavy load for an extended amount of time...battery life isn't THAT much different than AMD. Apple's battery life only shines when you do simple tasks like web browsing, watching twitch, reading emails, office productivity, etc.
@@zeus1117 didn't u see those data charts that Dave showed. It surely is quite close....
I love that you always approach your reviews from the "value for money" point of view.
Great to see the competition. The M1 Air hit every mark except webcam. The rest of the laptop lineup the prices get uncompetitive quickly with the Apple huge margins on RAM and SSD. But with supply constraints, it might not matter.
Honestly the webcam is not that big of a deal. It’s still better quality than the XPS tiny sensor they had to fit in that bezel, and now you can clip your phone on for a 4K quality webcam.
You can now use your iPhone as a webcam and get the best webcam there is
@@User-cb4jm Yeah, I have been using Camo Studio and EpocCam, just pointing out the considerations.
@@tjadejoh Yeah, I have been using Camo Studio and EpocCam, just pointing out the considerations. It is a bit annoying to have a stand to set up or prop on your screen with the new MacOS Continuity Camera and it will drain your phone battery. I took a MagSafe compatible hockey puck charger and hot glued it into tripod so I can keep my phone powered while using it as a web cam easily, and it just snaps via magnets onto the mount easily.
@@sloanNYC cool. Nice solution. You felt like the battery drained faster with continuity camera rather than with those other options?
I have the m1 and am a heavy user and I highly recommend the MacBook Air M1.
Don’t bother wasting your money getting the Air M2. For that price, get the pro.
What heavy tasks does it perform well for you?
If only Dell released a Ryzen version of the XPS 13 plus.
xps 13 is way too expensive imo.
Unless your a video editor or something along those creative lines I don’t see the point in Macs. If you just going to use it for browsing and light document editing. At that point you might as well just get a Chromebook.
Costco has the air m1 for $850 now. Great deal.
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crazy how Ryzen 6th gen is so close to M2 in power and battery life .Amazing job Ryzen
And it's basically a GTX 1650 Max-Q level performance for gaming
@@dev1lm4n63 And you don't have to run MacOS (BIG BONUS!)
@@NeverDoubtMe23 true that OS just isnt for me
Honestly, I think the M2 Macbook Air is too good of a machine to be priced at 999
Dave, why did you stop talking about the XPS as enthusiastically as before? Just wondering since you were so much into it.
energy consumption and heat. intel chips in the xps chassis just run hotter than it should
Dell implements the worst Apple features
I use them at work. they're awful. they all have super hot Intel chips. and Dell basically doesn't test them before they send them out so they all break and overheat. I've had to RMA like four out of the 15 that I've deployed at work. and I get constant complaints about the fan noise and how hot the chassis is. and they crash. The XPS along with the Microsoft surfaces that I have are like 25% of my tickets.
Yeah the biggest issue with the M2 Macbook Air is the price. Given the slower 256gb SSD (compared to the same capacity in the M1), by the time you spec it up to 512gb and 16gb of RAM, you might as well just get the 14inch MBP with much better performance and much better screen.
The price for the M2 Air just makes it not a very attractive laptop, no matter how impressive the performance is.
I got a a specced up MacBook Air because of the weight
LG recently launched their gram series for 2022 and it looks amazing
Do you think the m1 air is a good buy at this time? I just want an everyday laptop
This is an example where greed rewards the competition. Had Apple pursued a more benevolent approach rewarding loyal customers and enticing possible new ones they would have demolished the competition. Instead they leave the door wide open to them by pursuing a couple more hundred dollars out of the pockets of their consumers. Apple's worth billions though, so who am I to question them here but it's an interesting thing to think about regardless. Thanks for another interesting vid Dave!
Timmy needs to pay for his jet fuel. It’s not capitalism that ruins our world, it’s greedy people.
They’re worth trillions, get it right
In India they increased the price of M1 Air by like 100$. It cost 1150$(sold for as low as 950$) and now it's 1250$.
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we pay premium on all apple products.. even the base iPhone is way too expensive here
I got my base model M1 Air for $850 brand new in April. Didn’t feel bad at all even when the new M2 model came out.
@@adityancs which ones did they start manufacturing here?
@@patricksantos4199 only if they sold it here at that price.
I disagree, the storage and ram options of apple is such a scam to the point that after thinking it through from a certain prospective it's not a good deal as most youtubers say
Yes it's a good product but it's not cheap
such a great video, emphasizing the importance of +200$. i'm having a 2014 air and was waiting for that 2022, but now i'm reconsidering my options just because of this price tag
Apple saving the pc industry once again! If it wasn't for Apple we would still be using beige box's, pc manufacturers have absolutely no imagination.
Important to note is, that the asus zenbook s13 will probably also be heavily discounted like a few months after launch. I'm probably gonna be dumb and buy it before that though. It will support usb 4 in the future so that is kind of a game changer for amd devices
4 months later, Black Friday deals, the m1 MBA is 799 and m2 MBA is 1049, which pretty much blows any windows competition
Anything above 8 hours of battery life is already excellent. In the end it's still an ultrabook and the purpose of it to be portable yet long lasting is already a good regardless of the products you choose. Just that Apple finally managed to optimised the new M chips for many x86 platforms in Mac OS and we get all performance, power and portability in a small yet compact chasis. And Windows having better looking laptops while also being powerful, portable and competitive battery life is a huge plus. In the end, consumers win in choices and you get a better device no matter the product you buy.
Think about the future. Batteries degrade. If the battery life is 8 hours which is average for now, it’s gonna be 5 hours in a few years. If it’s like 12+ hours now, it will be 8 in a few years and still adequate.
For me, the important thing is that in mixed use, Macs stay quiet, cool, and still have decent battery life. I tried G14 this year and they can be dang silent but they ramp up at the weirdest times. When they get going, they’re just as loud as Intel notebooks while not being quite as fast, and they burn through battery quick. Intels are just leaf blowers and have no usable silent mode, but they do give you excellent performance. For me, if you want the fastest, get Intel. If you want the best portable computer, get Apple. If you want a little bit of both, get AMD. Good choices all around.
@@mbvglider idk i have a ryzen 5800h laptop and the fans basically never go when its unplugged, they only start being heard if i play games (demanding ones)
you have no fans in the mac, it doesn't just mean "better cuz no noise" it means you're losing a huge ton of performances due to overheating.
with fans u can choose, u could just undervolt the machine and its all silent, but when you need fans you have them.
@@SToXC_. I was actually comparing to my MacBook Pro 14", which rarely gets loud, even during video/audio editing, and it has a fan. Even when the fan goes, it's not that loud. For me, the Ryzen was only quiet when doing nothing demanding; as soon as it did need to turn on, it felt no better than an Intel for me because it'd become a leaf blower and burn 10% battery in 15 minutes. Also, you act like "just undervolt the machine" as though it's a single setting, but that's really a matter of spending a lot of time with the computer and understanding exactly where you can do what and when and how. For instance, the G14 has a MUX switch but every time you use it, you have to restart the computer, which means that to go from a performance setup to a silent setup, you need to do a full restart. Meanwhile, my Alienware, the silent profile severely throttled my performance while the balanced profile got too loud way too quickly, so I had to experiment with a fan curve until I found something reasonable. With Windows machines, you're really at the mercy of your manufacturer and how much time you're willing to spend before you reach these reasonable points, whereas with Macs, they just have regular and low power, and regular is still quieter and more efficient than AMD/Intel at silent.
@@User-cb4jm Think about the future, buy a laptop with upgradable storage.
Well the air M2 is now $999, and the M1 is $799…
8:05 You need to compare the real base models on an 'apples to apples' basis to account for the missing SSD module on the M2. The best way to do this is to compare the 512GB prices of both the M1 and M2. How much was the 512GB M1A (8GB RAM, 7-Core GPU) when it first came out?
i am a btech cse student in india 3rd year,
confused between m2 macbook air and m1 pro
macbook pro 14 inch, the price difference i am
getting between both devices at 512 16 config
is 28k inr. I plan to do things majorly related to
coding and development. Is it worth the
upgrade to 14 inch?
M1 Pro
I still don't even have the M1 Air, lol. Too much money for me. Thanks for the heads up on the HP, it fits my budget much better, especially on sale 👍
I wouldnt recommend the hp, it has very weak speakers, the battery is really small (i was only getting 6 hours of battery life) which is barely enough for 1 work day
@@piuspenguin4593 There's always a catch, always. I can deal with the battery as I'm plugged in most of the day and by default I use headphones at work, so the speakers aren't as big an issue either. Nice to know that's the worst of it though, thanks!
@@dragon2knight ight good to know ur fine with it. One thing thats really nice about the pavilion is that its really lightweight and yet still feels very premium and sturdy
Hey @dave2d
Are those benchmarks with the laptops plugged or unplugged?
It's simply fun to watch the various competitors from different manufacturers!
Bro went head to head with 256GB MAC vs. the 512GB windows offering ..
Comparing HP $850 16/512 GB specs with $1200 MAC with 8/256 GB storage
Feeling Absurd ??! 😮
I bet the benchmarks for the Windows laptops are plugged in only. My impression is that the performance of the Windows laptops would greatly degrade once unplugged.
The M1 is so good it's what I bought in 2022.
5:41 The way Dave matches the price tag with his graphic tees, so good.
Thanks for doing God's work. Have a nice day!
The 2008 Macbook Air had and still has a more inovative design than this boxy, cookie-cutter M2 (and the Pros). I have an M1 Air... best laptop since my 11" Air. I love the tapered front: most comfortable to type on. Prefer the black keys on silver. Prefer pretty much everything about it. This new "design" thing being "more modern" is pure marketing hype. Just slim down the edges of the Air a bit to fit a 14" screen, and we're un business for many years to come...
excellent comparison and video. Under 10 minutes, covered multiple laptops, not overly "techie", enough information for a general user to start making decisions
the best deal is easily a refurbed MBA M1... comes with warranty etc as well, just like a "normal" new mac
benchmark comparisons is one thing, but the overall operating system is just running so well on the M chips, that windows laptops just seem sluggish by comparison. My pc is quite fast (desktop) but just searching for a program to launch, takes a few seconds, on a fast ssd. meanwhile, it's instantaneous on my MBA. These small everyday performance-increases really add up, for the daily use.
And none of these laptops are designed for "pro" workflows anyway, so..
Been using the xps 13 plus for the last 6 months, and let me tell you that the keyboard and trackpad are ass. Specifically the touch buttons at the top which force you to look down at your keyboard and the track pad which stops working for ~1min far too often, I got it for free off scholarship, but if I could trade it in for a Macbook, even an older model, I would.
😂 The moment I saw the design, these were my exact critiques. The function buttons looked so unreliable as you said, and the invisible trackpad is arguably worse considering that you have no clue where it’s located even when you’re looking down
Thanks for the excellent review
I bought a new MBA and I really wanted to like it but when I realized that it doesn't support downloading of offline content of Netflix or Prime Video that was a total kill joy for me.
This year ASUS has nailed it with introducing oled displays to all their laptop categories. It's a huge consideration guys. The quality difference between oled and lcd displays is substantial. I'd say apple has shot in it's foot with the m2 MacBook air pricing but we know people will buy apple no matter what. so whatever.
“Shot itself in the foot” lmao, more like made more people consider the base model 14in Pro than anything else if they spec it up, or the M1 Air at base level.
Less about “people will buy Apple no matter what”, I’ll only agree to that statement the day we have Asus and HP laptops running macOS and Samsung and Xiaomi phones running iOS. The software is what sets them apart from literally every other brand.
You're exaggerating the difference. The OLED isn't a total win. Highly dependent on the panel. This one tops out at a little over 300 nits, which is worse than the others and something you'll notice in outside usage.
I'd rather not have an OLED on my laptop, burn in is still a thing for PC usage. I have a wonderful OLED panel as my TV but for desktop usage I wouldn't want it, would rather have 1440p as a minimum resolution for all of these laptops in the €1000 price category, it's 2022
@@drchtct I never had burn-in on oled phones tho
Hey Dave, take a look at the Lenovo Yoga Slim Pro X 14. Comes with newest gen Intel and Ryzen high performance chips (12500H, 12700H, 6800HS) for €1200 to €1400. Also with 3K 120Hz display, 16GB RAM and 512GB SSD in the base model.
Also, ASUS VivoBook Pro 14X OLED, very similar, 3K 120Hz OLED, 550 Nits, 12700H in the base model for €1300. Both are brand new (listed for just a few days in Europe) and should blow away all of the mentioned Windows laptops in the video and compete with the Macbook Air M1 and M2 in price.
Also, these prices are in Euro, so they should be less in Dollar because Euro includes taxes and unfortunately dipped a lot compared to the Dollar in the past months (for comparison, the Dell XPS 13 Plus starts at €1600).
In all fairness and serious, I think 13 inch Air is bonker for the performance but what the Zenbook S13 shows to me really blows me away for the performance and efficiency it can get even on x86 architecture. I think this year and even on near future AMD will be the king of Windows laptop and Desktop. If the S13 can get IPS LCD option, the battery life will be even more comparable to MacBook Air or even Pro
Why are laptops with 8gb of ram being showcased here???? Selling laptops with 8gb of ram for $1000+ is inexcusable in 2022, especially when the ram is soldered on to the mb. 8gb ram on a laptop without discrete graphics is unsuitable for any serious use.
I’ve always wondered how an AMD chipset and GPU would perform in an XPS 13 or even better a XPS13+ Chassis, it’s too bad DELL has been keeping in lockstep with Intel on their XPS line, I think the efficiency and price point of AMD are worth exploring over Intel, especially in the “Ultrabook” arena. With that said the Zenbook does look promising at least until the newest 13” ROG Flow 2-in-1 laptops start coming out. IMHO the 2-in-1 form factor is one of the main differentiators vs MacBooks, especially since the M1 chips came out.
Thunderbolt
XPS are shit
Dave - I know you are a fan of dbrand so when I bought this laptop, I took the plunge. I ended up ordering the wrong item (their website defaults to back skin only). After a kind exchange and returning the item the mail service bounced back to me. When I informed dbrand, I got called an extortionist and thief. Woah, right? No dbrand for me.
Ryzen 6800U is impressive, keeping in mind it's in a fairly simple cooled machine with just 1 fan, and using 7nm instead of the 5nm node process of the M1/M2. Similar in efficiency to the M2 if we compare Cinebench R23 scores and the power used.
Ryzen 7000 series early next year with 4 or 5nm and new architecture generation (Zen 4) will be VERY impressive. And RDNA3 iGPU also using 4 or 5nm.
M series has 40% more transistors and is on a better node. Based on numbers vs 4700u/5700u/6800u I think it's pretty clear that apple's advantage was transistor and node count. Zen 4 will certainly close the gap, although not in single threaded.
Trust me when I say this, if the HP laptop is cheaper, it is cheaper for a reason, they probably took a shortcut with one or two things, I’m speaking from experience, I have an HP envy from 2020 and hinge gave up on me, causing my screen to crack, and since it’s a touch screen and all that, the screen replacement was not cheap, generally, I would say, don’t trust hp when they offer you cheap things. It’s cheap for a reason, it may look good, but won’t last, and also just by the way, those laptops scratch so easily, you’d be shocked what can scratch them
Bought that pavillion aero for my dad earlier in the year. It's a fantastic little machine for the price. It's not an A+, but a solid B+/A-, and for the price I can't complain.
I own a M1 macbook air, I WANT to miss out on the notch, thermal throttling and even slower SSD.
Note: I bought the m1 air after the m2 was launched.
For my use case the MacBook Air being fanless with great performance is it’s biggest plus point for basic day-to-day productivity.
I wish a fanless Windows PC would provide similar performance. No dusty internals and regular maintenance required.
Maybe compare the previous year m1 MacBook Air to a previous year zephyrus g14 that might be the place where the g14 wins on gaming, upgradeability, repair etc.
Great stuff as always, Dave. Did you consider the new Lenovo Yoga 9i 14" laptop? It's really stellar, including outstanding sound. Plus it's a touch machine with 2-in-1 capabilities that the Air doesn't offer. List price isn't cheap, but (unlike Apple) Lenovo machines go on sale all the time. Plus, the base SSD performs well! 🙂
Look at Just Josh’s review on that. Absolutely decimated by the MacBook Pro 14 (that actually has gone on sale to around $1800). Horrendous battery life and way worse thermals, it’s a joke for the $1930 RRP, no wonder they need to discount it for it to even sell.
@@User-cb4jm I don't own the Yoga, so that's good info!
@@User-cb4jm jesus christ a $1930 lenovo yoga??, get that shit outta here lmao
$1930 is definitely overpriced for those features, lenovo yoga series has to be the most overrated of the 2 in 1's. The best lenovo yogas are the thinkpad variants or the lenovo yoga 2 pro and lenovo yoga 3 pro. Those ones actually competed HARD with the macbook air in its era because of its 3200 x 1800 display and having almost identical dimensions to the MBA. As well as processing power, etc for about the same price and having a touchscreen. Currently I would say Lenovo yoga 9i 14" would be overshadowed massively by the acer spin 5 SP514-51N that will give you a 2560 x 1600, I7 1260P, 16GB LPDDR5, 1TB SSD and included stylus pen that docks inside of the device.
Dave I think u messed up the GFXBench graphs - you had m2 MBA at 48.3 for the first chart then 38.3 for the rest.
5 laptops reviews under 8 minutes only Dave can do that.
He has done the review of those laptops in the past
@@bhavyajain2427 No you didn't get it, nobody does it better than him. It's his style of doing explaining 5 laptops in less than 10 minutes.
What does mean "heavy use"? Photo editing? Video editing? Programming? You would be beautiful if you give me some examples
it's crazy to see how much things change can change quickly as new CPUs keep jumping into the ring
I bought the HP Aero 13 with 2k display resolution last week, and I love it. The weight, the simplicity, the size, and the performance is more than enough for me as developer.
The only downside is the battery life, not that it's short but I hope it can be longer.
got mine but with the base screen option recently, battery life is good with the 1200p screen. The weight alone made me choose this over the MacBook Air. Agree, it's more than enough for me as a software engineer.
Would u suggest aero for decent amount of gaming tho?? I'm confused which one to get but want something for office use and gaming which must be light weight and super fast with not much off fan running
@@joelwilson5024 i dont use aero for gaming, but if you really want to play games on it, it will get hot, depending on your games, resolution and preset gaming you would at least get 45 fps
How long does the battery last? Can you recommend this laptop to buy now?
Touching the touch pad to activate a number pad is a Kool features on the Zen laptop. But I wonder how useful it is?
Macbook Air M2 should have been $999 and the M1 discounted to something like $849.
However you can still get a M1 MBA at a great discount from other re-sellers currently if you look around.
M1 Macbook Air is my favorite because It's fanless and I like its keyboard more than M2 Air's.