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I hate when people say "Don't disrepect a mans wife/girl". Just say don't disrespect women at all because with that sentence it seems like it's just about disrespecting the mans pride and nothing about the woman at all.
I know people will disagree with this, but I'm ok with that. It's ok for someone to defend their wife, just the same with someone's. Someone's family, kids, friends, or etc. They are being insulted, criticized, and attacked directly. Saying you should attack women, men, or people can come off as indifferent and it doesn't acknowledge the person or people you are with directly.
@@pluto545 someone wanting to defend their partner isn't the problem. Will wanting to defend Jada isn't the problem, the problem is people online saying things like "don't disrespect someone's girl"
Please do the Amy Schumer video. She is one of the worst celebrities to self-label as a "feminist" despite behaving like anything but a feminst and she's been able to get away with TOO long.
she ain't a a pick me girl she's a feminist... pick me girls r way lot better than her... she even steals other ppl's jokes & have done it many times & says she never steals others jokes... she even has said r@pe jokes..
apparently will got banned for 10 YEARS? BYE. That's extremely dramatic, they need to keep the same energy with other celebs who've done waaaaayyyy worse...
@@_salemtovar_ It really isn’t dramatic. Because think about what would of happened if Christ fought back, If people escalated, if someone had a gun or if Christ for seriously injured. You have to punish this type of behaviour severely so it won’t happen in the future. Also cuz money, less people will come, less people will feel safe, if they don’t punish him like that. Means less sponsors and less money.
Idk about Will Smith or whatever but people really took this situation to blame Jada for everything. Assuming that she straight up TOLD him to do it or encouraged him even though all we saw was her rolling her eyes, and then people getting mad when she later condemned it. Also people really overdid it, some people on Twitter were talking about 'collective trauma' like dude, you did not witness a murder, please come off it.
@@christineodogwu8042 I think it's more of overjudgement in character than that per say considering there's an allegation of Jada cheat on will. It could be for your reason buts most likely the other.
But we actually don't know wheither she said anything ir not, so we can't be 100% sure she had nothing to do with it, because as You said, we didn't see what happened between Will and Jada for some seconds. I'm not saying it's her fault, but we can't Say she didn't Say anything just as we can't Say she did Say something, we shouldn't assume.
@@aliciasodidavila1813 I mean, why assume she did if you know you have no evidence? It's like coming to someone and assuming that they have been to prison because you have no evidence to the contrary, so it somehow makes it a 50/50. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. I did not claim she did not do it either, by the way.
Adding to you and your fiance's suggestions about what Will could have done to approach the situation more differently, I think it would been more better for him to received the award and let everyone know that it was very distasteful joke from Chris to talk about his wife in a way like that, briefly explaining about her situation, which will not only shutdown Chris but as well as other people that laughed with him. Regardless, I believe that the situation could have been sorted out better.
You’re right! If he had just gone on stage to accept his award and in his speech if he absolutely roasted Chris Rock with a logical explanation of his wife’s condition and the emotional stress it’s caused her and how jokes like that are outdated and not clever or funny it would have been ACTUALLY legendary!!! But instead he acted like a child and hit him.. I’m still Team Will but yeah should’ve handled it better bud😂😂
Salem, also, I want to give some perspective. As a black woman who grew up in the USA around other black people, baldness has ALWAYS been a negative joke about us. If we wear a wig or weave, a lot of black men would joke that we're bald under there. Even to this day a lot of black men talk trash about our hair, lack of hair, short hair, kinky hair (the same hair they have!!), wig/weave wearing, etc. so to me, joking about being bald is painful. I agree with you, that I don't think Chris Rock meant it negatively. He didn't know she had alopecia and he literally made a movie about how bad relaxers are because he wanted his black daughters to love their naturally kinky hair!! However, we still get called "bald-headed" to this day as an insult usually by black men so I think he really shouldve thought about that. Edit: Okay so I prematurely wrote this comment. Didn't realize you talked about the Bad Hair movie.
I totally agree. I am white so could not experience it on myself but was thinking exactly this. It is really disgusting when black man are trashing their own race female. They are trashing yourself too. And I can just say you only reason they do it is that they feel bad about yourself so they have to put down someone else that are similar to them
Whatever happened, I can't get this one tweet I saw out of my head. This one (white) lady was on Twitter saying "I can't believe we had to see such extreme violence my kids were exposed to it" And not to be dramatic... But there are so many places in the world where there is actual violence and oppression and I'm so sorry Samantha that you and your extraordinarily privileged family had to see one open handed strike.
The way so many people (including celebrities) used this situation to spew their anti blackness, clear racism and respectability politics was disgusting. The blatant misogynoir against Jada is also unjustified.
I totally agree. Also people keep blaming Jada? Like she didn’t ask Will to slap Chris? Why is it suddenly her fault? The blatant sexism is astonishing…
I’m black and unsubscribed a lot of yt channels cuz of this. YT right wing and boomers were biased and dragging this way too much to make it a black on black crime thing. The mammying from some black folks was annoying too.
@@cruelpopsicle8463 How is it sexism? We all know Jada brags about sleeping with other men on live television, in front of Smith. She herself wasn't justified either.
Am I the only one who figured Will laughed at first because he was just on laugh autopilot (like, for him & the other nominees, they're basically *working* there with their best work manners switched on) & it took a few seconds to process & actually realize what the "joke" was?
Thank you kindly because this is my exact understanding. Not the Oscars, but in a wedding setting with plenty of guests, light jokes and small talk, I often have my biggest grin and put on my most bubbly and giggly persona which is what I felt Will Smith did. He was simply automatically laughing probably without really understanding/analyzing the jokes themselves.
I mean, no, considering he's made fun of bald people himself. Pretty sure he just thought it was funny and only changed his mind when he realised Jada didn't share his appreciation for the joke.
For me personally I fall on several lines. Will should have kept his hands to himself. No one has the right to places their hands upon another person. Chris should have kept his jokes tamer when it comes to a black woman's hair especially since his daughters had issues accepting theirs. Also it was just a joke and while it offended Jada, Will could have simply used his words like he did AFTER the fact.
exactly but ppl want to push off chris’s “joke” and just assume we’re sensitive when that’s not the problem at hand and y’all might get mad at my but will W chris L
i agree with most of your points, but i do have this to say: jada pinkett smith and chris rock have never had a good relationship, and i could understand why she might've reacted differently to him making that joke compared to other ppl speaking on her baldness. basically, chris rock has been picking on jada for about 25 years because she rejected him. also the idea of joking about a black woman's hair in front of a bunch of white ppl is very very icky. u shouldn't really make certain statements in mixed company also btw have to say that chris's hair documentary spent a lot of time bashing black woman for their decisions on their hair instead of enlightening ppl on the struggles with black hair and (lastly!) the whole idea of saying that "this should've been dealt with in private" is odd because the joke was made in public
I would also say that a black man slapping another black man in front of a room full of white people on national television is just as distasteful. It’s given so many racist the excuse to be saying many inappropriate things about Jada as a black woman and Will as a black man.
Best take I've seen on this. Yes, Will should not have slapped him, that's fair to say, but also if the initial disrespect was public then the backlash should have been public to make the statement that what Chris Rock said was NOT okay. Even then I wonder if Will using his acceptance speech to put Chris in his place would have even been as impactful as the slap. The thing that irks me now is that too many people are acting like the morality police and writing dissertations supporting Chris Rock, buying out his shows and advocating for a man who routinely exhibits misogynoir and makes anti-black women jokes. As a black woman, it really shows me that black women are truly one of the most disrespected groups of women and no one is really here for us.
“You guys really want me to time travel? Do I look like Benjamin Franklin? Is that the president or the dude who invented electricity? That was Benjamin Button I think. *I don’t know, I haven’t watched Hamilton.”* -Salem Tovar, 2022
One of my main issue with the people defending Chris, is that they tend to minimize what was said to Jada. Which is just not okay. “It was just a joke.” Doesn’t justify anything. Making a joke at the expense of someone else isn’t “just a joke.” Also bit of a hot take- I believe that it is wrong to make a joke at the expense of someone else’s illness AND ALSO to physically assault someone. Lol like both can be wrong idk.
I’m not trying to defend it but we joke about that kind of stuff so much in society. Not that it makes it OK, but for us to say that appearance jokes are low blow is extremely hypocritical considering we have people who make a living off of that comedy. For example, RUclips commentators. What we really need to figure out is, what is OK in comedy and what is not. It’s either all OK or it’s not OK at all. We really can’t have an in between because it’s going to be at somebody’s expense either way.
Did Chris know about her disease? I'll be honest, I didn't even know she had it until after the Will slapping Chris incident. I think the joke was aimed more at just the haircut itself and not the fact that she's losing hair. I can understand why Jada would get upset, but I don't think Chris was trying to make fun of her disease specifically. He just compared her hairstyle to the woman's hairstyle from GI Jane. However, Jada's feelings towards the joke are valid and she's allowed to be offended. I feel like no one can ever admit that they disliked a joke anymore without people online getting angry and calling you a "snowflake". Still, no physical violence should've been present regardless.
@Becksxo They're not a good comedian TO YOU, but that's actually the most coveted content from comedians. People are almost always the subject or butt of a joke, whether it be men, women, married couples, celebrities, the rich, the poor, children, the elderly, people in various professions. Even subjects that don't target a specific person still effect people. Jokes about mental illness, for example. A comedian might not target anyone by name, but by joking about the mental illness, they're offending many people. The issue here is plenty of people with mental illnesses find that kind of comedy funny. I know I do. You yourself probably don't even realise that you're laughing at someone or something someone does/suffers when you consume comedy. It's pretty much inevitable.
@Becksxo Which is why I ended my comment with, "You yourself probably don't even realise that you're laughing at someone or something someone does/suffers when you consume comedy. It's pretty much inevitable." Reading comprehension sure is important, isn't it?
Thats what I'm saying. Yes Will should be punished but not to this extent. Nor do I think he should've gave his award back since the same award show has praised people worst than him.
@@idontknowmyname.9202 i don’t even think his award should be taken. Ban him for a year or two. Harvey Weinstein and many other predators still have their awards
To be honest, saw it trending and I just ignored it. Award shows are just celebrities getting to wear fashion designer evening wear, jewelry and accessories and flaunt their "looks and wealth". There is a reason why award shows are losing their viewership. Nobody can relate to these people. And if Chris, Will and Jada were unknown. No one would bat an eye.
We have all the same opinions! 🙌 Also, I wanted to mention that I’m really glad you mentioned Will’s “laugh” because I was getting really tired of seeing people say he thought the joke was funny. Like, NO, it was clear he was not in a good mood (and understanding facial expressions is difficult for me because I’m autistic). People really can’t let a grown man take responsibility for his own actions? 🙄
As I see it it went like this: 1. Will didn't get the joke 2. Will laughed with everyone because it's the thing to do when you don't get a joke 3. Jada explained the joke 4. Will realized he should bee offended
I just wish everyone would have appreciated it for the memes and let the people involved handle the rest instead of turning it into some kind of moral panic. A+ slap execution by Will, Chris has a chin of steel and the academy got the publicity it deserves - win win win imo.
Will Smith career is being ended by Hollywood and that's the only thing people will remember of this night when it was supposed to be the celebration for his first Oscar. He absolutely lost it all here.
@@jenesishunter9674 Chill out girl. He's been banned from the academy and all his movie deals are being canceled left and right. I'm not anti Will Smith but that's literally just a fact.
You are so young and so wise. Woman, burp, fart, dip, come back, do you. "They" will always hate what's real. As an older gay and elder millennial man regaining his confidence and healing, you are an inspiration. You and your sister are everything. Stay awake, stay real, you are love and loved.
Anytime someone has to dress up in tuxs and gowns for an event you know it’s gonna be boring LOL. You’re so right about no one watches or cares about award shows anymore. We all use to watch the MTV awards for controversy years ago and even that fell off 🤷🏾♀️
Yes please do Amy!! I loved your take on this topic. I know there was a clip going around of Chris talking to the Smith’s during a commercial break, so I’m sure he apologized. I also love that people bought up tickets to his comedy show the next night to potentially hear him tear down the Smith’s, and he just said that he wouldn’t be discussing the incident until he had time to process it first.
omg, loving the hair clips! im so happy that you're explaining everything that's happening, because we really need someone who's smart and can look on both sides to explain it. i think that chris shouldn't have made the joke, and will shouldn't have slapped him. both were wrong. i also think that its wrong that will is getting banned when r*p*sts and ab*s*rs dont get banned. also, the makeup is ✨exquisite✨
That's a pretty dumb take. A comedian should be able to Joke about anything. If you don't find it funny then just sit down and shut up (or leave) and let others enjoy the act. Nobody's forcing you to laugh. If you slap that comedian because your fragile ego cant take a little joke, obviously there should be consequences. Will smith shouldn't get a pass just because he's your favorite hollywood hero.
@@adriangeh6414 I disagree. To me, humour should stop being humour when it’s taking shots at other people, a lot of people in the audience didn’t find it funny anyway and I’m kind of surprised that made the cut for an official hosting job, and just because it’s a joke doesn’t mean he can’t face consequences. Something being humour doesn’t stop it from being rude or out of line and, to me, making a unwarranted joke about someone’s hair, especially one that comes from a medical condition and when the person has talked about struggling with it, deserves criticism. But, just to be clear, I don’t think that action should have been to hit him. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and Will didn’t need to be the one to call it out, Jada has a mouth.
@@Rachel-ft7hm like i said, if your ego/feelings can't handle a joke, just sit down and shut up or leave, let others enjoy the act. Nobody is forcing you to stay there and laugh and you can feel as offended as you like Outside. But don't interrupt the show with your tantrums. The world does not revolve around your fragile ego.
@@adriangeh6414 your ego can’t appear to handle my opinion, if you can’t stand having conversation on the internet with people who don’t agree with you without insulting them (without any originality might I add), maybe you should log off your account. The world doesn’t revolve around either of us so I assume that me adding my thoughts to the conversation shouldn’t matter in the slightest because (obviously) my OPINION doesn’t matter in the big picture. But it seems you might need to check your sense of self worth and hypocrisy. It appears the only one throwing a tantrum here is you as everyone else is voicing their opinions in a calm and collected way which, again, you are clearly not.
Dude, before watching the video, I just wanna say that the week this happened, my social media was FILLED with this and I was so done.😂 But when my professor in the university made us do an analysis of the situation...I was NOT👏HAVING👏IT👏😂 Wey, el Will Esmit y el Chris Roca me tenían malll. 😂
I saw someone else say this and it stuck on my mind: If rich people wanna fight themselves in public important-to-rich-ppl events i hope they go for it Off the topic and more important than it: you make up is pure art today omg it looks so cool (your hair too) love from 🇧🇷 queen 🦆
It all depends what stance you wish to take. Legally, Will should not have hit anyone. Verbal violence (targeting Jada not only once) does not excuse physical violence under the law. Morally though, that depends on you. If you keep coming for a person (the fact that she rejected him several years ago is not lost in me) and are shock when something happens....Its like come on. I'm not talking about a single joke, I am talking about continuously coming for Jada, aka a pattern. If this had been one joke it would be like wth Will (for the slap, not cussing him out. Him standing up for a BW is something rarely society does and should happen far more often). Whatever your stance is on the slap its fine but if you're using this as an excuse to drag Jada when she did nothing wrong, just because you're upset that a woman, especially a BW, is an open relationship (where BOTH agree) and is enjoying it instead of having her husband have all the fun, then you're a POS. If you're using this to spew out your racism and misogyny, you're a POS. If you're condemning Will to hell for this and are saying he should get his Oscar revoked....Please keep the energy the same for the pedophiles, rapists, racists, and other horrible people that have gotten an Oscar. Since these exceed the act of a slap. Like if you genuinely think that trophy is based on morality then a crap ton of people would not have Oscars.
Jada is literally emotionally abusing Will Smith. We can see it in multiple videos of her admitting she didn’t want to marry him, her humiliating him on public show by admitting she wasn’t sorry for cuckolding with their son Jaden’s friends, the fact she slept with her son’s friend who was in a mentally weak position while recovering from addiction and no one pointed it out how predatory that behaviour is, her recording him when he wanted privacy in his own house and calling his reasonable request “foolishness”. Why is no other female RUclipsr talking about it? Will Smith is being emotionally abused.
YES THANK YOU. You were the exact comment I was looking for. I gave a POV about how the Smith family night could've been going and said speculation in my comment on here about him talking crap about her for years, but then someone tried to throw the entanglement situation in as well. Well put.
the whataboutism here is too much. no one here is defending pedophiles and rapists attending the oscar’s?? they should be banned as well but that has nothing to do with will. there’s a difference between hitting a big celebrity live at the oscar’s and hitting someone on the street or within your own home. the fact that it occurred at the oscar’s means they HAVE to respond. if you’re using will smith’s blackness to defend his behavior, you’re a pos. i don’t think will should have his Oscar revoked but he def deserved the ban from the Oscars ceremony.
The plot of G.I. Jane is fairly misogynistic, with the main character being abused by men in power because she was considered ultra-feminine and was being (politically) used to make the Navy Seals "gender-neutral." There's a lot of "I'm not like the other girls" throughout the film on top of the societal stereotype of "women hate other women". It is a hyper-masculine war fantasy film that came out in the late '90s. This is why Chris Rock referencing that particular film was in poor taste, on top of using Jada (or any other black woman) as a target of his jokes.
After just 1 day, I got fed up with all the memes & EVERYONE posting about it, so I stopped using social media, but I LOVE hearing your insights, so here I am💜
🐥 firstly, you are soo gorgeous and I’m loving this look! Secondly, I enjoyed your rant-y perspective. I felt sad for him almost immediately after the shock. The way he cried after such a wave of anger reminded me of how I struggle with dealing with anger healthily. My family does not and I’ve always been afraid to be out of control with it myself. I would push it down and not deal with it for a long time. When I finally would (usually not how I would have liked) I would usually cry from the intense emotion. I liked your problem solving and hope he gets some therapy and healing. Therapy helped me a lot (still a WIP). I’m very surprised that you are only 23. Woman, you are so very wise! Can’t wait for the next video! 🐣
They just trying blow these up. Hollywood hope these would cover the case of Amber Heard and Johnny Depp trial since the Hollywood support Amber Heard that's why she was still in aquaman 2 while Johnny Depp had to lost his franchise even when it was exposed that her bruised were all make up
It's weird that people try to blame Jada. Will obviously had an emotional reaction to Jada being upset, but he ultimately made the choice to go up on stage and slap Chris. That also explains why he took a few seconds to react, it sunk in that Jada was hurt.
As a black woman you don’t talk about a black woman’s hair like that. Definitely doesn’t justify Will’s actions but Chris is definitely NOT innocent like a lot of people are painting him to me. If he was a white man said the same thing, Black Twitter would go on a rampage. Just my two cents.
fr. i'm white, so my perspective may be different, but i feel like a lot of the insults aimmed at black women's appearances are about them being 'manly' and somehow less womanly, so making a joke aimmed at her hair (specially about it being shaved, something associated with men), was cruel. hair is such a strong point of identity, especially with black women who face so many struggles with it being accepted.
Don’t think blAck women are special when it comes to bald or hair jokes. Still at the same time you can recognize why it hurts them, but you gotta recognize that it’s dum to rank mental distress .
@@briansupermega5692 Not you being a whole clown. White women haven’t been mocked for their hair for ages, but you know who has? Black women. Don’t open your mouth if you don’t know what you are talking about.
You are well-spoken. Your analysis is thought-provoking. Your look is fire. As an 50 year old Gen X woman, I gladly learn from you. Also...your look is adorable. Thank you for the video. Whatever time you need you need between posts, it's good. Thank you for sharing anything you can. 🦆🦆🦆
I really love the idea of uplifting your partner in the moment and finding the right time to address the negative joke/comment. Sometimes that might be the exact same moment (and maybe sometimes a firm, not-meant-to-be-cruel slap has a place) but I like the general principle. I do think this particular situation would have played out better for everyone if it had gone like you said. Here’s hoping it can be a learning moment for all parties! 🦆🦆🦆
Comedy and jokes also have boundaries so 'it was just a joke' is not acceptable & justified more so if the person on whom the joke was surrounded feels offended. Will's action to resort to violence was also wrong though, it could have been in the heat of the moment but it was a little immature but not to the extent that his award should be revoked yada yada. Also this situation is so stretched 🦋
@@gumihoreyiz everyone has their opinion. Legally it does come under crime but all individuals have their opinion I condemn his actions violence was obvio not the answer but personally I would not go as far as to say his awards should be revoked or he should be behind bars. It's all Chris' decision if he wants to sue or whatever at the end of the day so who anyone one of us is to say anything. I agree w Salem that this could have been settled privately and also respect your stance have a nice day 👌🏻
Jada is literally emotionally abusing Will Smith. We can see it in multiple videos of her admitting she didn’t want to marry him, her humiliating him on public show by admitting she wasn’t sorry for cuckolding with their son Jaden’s friends, the fact she slept with her son’s friend who was in a mentally weak position while recovering from addiction and no one pointed it out how predatory that behaviour is, her recording him when he wanted privacy in his own house and calling his reasonable request “foolishness”. Why is no other female RUclipsr talking about it? Will Smith is being emotionally abused.
@@nightly765 Comedy should have boundaries unless the person or group who the joke is about says it’s okay if it’s about you and what you’ve gone through or something like that it’s up to you. People go through things that they don’t want to be used to joke about and that’s okay and valid. Btw this is just my opinion not trying to argue.
@@gumihoreyiz Chris Rock is unfazed and doesn't care about this back and forth the public is having on his behalf.. You ain't gonna get paid for this and you're gonna waste your time arguing with people online who have their own opinion and you aren't gonna convince them to change it just because you have a different opinion..I can guarantee that this is just gonna be a pointless back and forth that nobody benefits from..even if Chris did press charges like everyone so badly wants.. thats pocket change to them so.. why you mad? How would this affect your quality of life? Do you get the money? Like this is such a non issue.
Love these hot takes: I feel like no one in this situation has been given the benefit of the doubt. You did that in a compassionate way, while not excusing wrong actions
The only reason the whole thing is such a big deal is because he actually physically hit him. That's what makes it so shocking and buzzworthy. If Will would have just yelled at him it wouldn't have been nowhere near as discussed as it was. 🦆
When Chris Rock has moved on, isn't pressing charges, is still making bank, unfazed and isn't reading or remotely interested in anything the fans are pressed or arguing about a situation they weren't in.. it's kind of funny how yall live vicariously.
Fr, if Will would have simply ignored it, no one would have remembered the joke or this specific Oscars. If he would have screamed, people would have mentioned it for a bit but still forgotten. But no, he immediately went to the most extreme and is being talked about till no end
@@saphirothplaysbad4708 I agree. I was so disgusted with how long this has been tallied about, and the amount of hate sent Will and Jada’s way. Especially since Will is a ‘supposedly’ liked celebrity. Can’t help but feel some type of way about it.
I loved your take on how when it comes to a relationship, you’re a partnership and how one should deal with something when it comes to someone insulting your partner. A while back, someone came up to my boyfriend, saying he didn’t like me because I was “such a terrible influence on his girlfriend” (which he abused) and that my boyfriend should talk to me and “put me in my place”. My boyfriend told him “I’m not going to talk to her about that. You have a problem with her. You need to address it with her. Just prepare yourself for the consequences”. Of course, that person never told me anything to my face, I only found this out because of my boyfriend and a friend of ours that was there when the conversation went down. Honestly, I appreciate how my boyfriend handled the situation because he did not get violent, and he gave me the respect I deserved as his partner and as an individual.
I love you're POVs. Thanks for chiming in on this matter. You're always so logical and still make it fun 💜☮️ Glad to see you're doing well and Happy Birthday 🎉👏
Sigh. The only thing I'm mad about with this is the fact that Will slapping Chris essentially gave permission for non-Black people to get into our business. There's quite a bit of context and nuance missing here. Firstly, Chris' Good Hair Documentary was made after pressure because of how he repeatedly made jokes laced in misogynoir around Black women's hair. I and many other Black women found the tone of that documentary very mocking. Secondly, Chris has a history and habit of attacking Jada with his jokes, and Will previously warned Chris to keep her name out of his mouth. Do I agree with slapping people in public? No. But I also don't think Will was being overly sensitive/reactive about it. Edited to add...I've read more of the comments and people are really out here trying to make Jada out to be some kind of villain controlling Will 😳 Not saying she's perfect, but that too is anti-Blackness. Y'all should just admit you dislike Black women and don't think we should ever feel upset 🙄.
@@kevinlee9929 man this isn't the same situation. Like this is clearly an event where jokes are being told. Obviously violence isn't the answer. And domestic abuse is not acceptable. Regardless if it's a man or woman who commits the violence.
As a black woman you has been socialised to hate their hair I saw this from a different viewpoint. Nothing was wrong with yours but there is more nuance needed. Block women are always disrespected and the butt off the joke, the joule was distasteful and I do no condone violence but I did feel a slight ease when I saw Will not sit there and do nothing. It could’ve been a bald joke but there are negatives with that.
Maybe unpopular opinion here (maybe not i don't know) But what really piss me off on this case is that people are really on their high horses,giving life lessons about violence while having racist biaises(especially white feminists).Nobody was in Wills head that night but his violence was pure reaction. As a black woman,his slap gave me satisfaction because usually there is no consequences to misogynoir. Not the best reaction, i'm not excusing his behavior but i understand it. Mocking a black woman,her disease, in front of a mostly white audience is not a joke this a humiliation.
@@christineodogwu8042 Fr and it’s more irritating when people like oj Simpson and Alec Baldwin THINK they have the right to speak on it like 🧍🏾♀️ Worry about you’re own problems 💀
@@ihavenothingbettertodowith2358 Right! When I saw those two open their mouths to speak on the matter, I was immediately like "why would I listen to you???". Even my mother started laughing when I told her OJ Simpson and Alec Baldwin condemned Will Smith. And I agree, as black women we are just so tired of being the butt of so many "jokes" and insults but because people rarely see us as deserving of our humanity, they will not empathize or even try to understand our hurt.
Amen!!!!! All the hypothetical scenarios about how they would never...while ignoring the fact that Jada has tolerated Chris' "jokes" about her for years. People seem to want Jada to be a villain who didn't deserve to be defended. They're exposing their own misogynoir big time...
A Slowpoke here! That's the reason why I wanted to watch your video and know your opinion because you mention really strong points and different perspectives that gave me a whole different point of view of the situation. Love your vids! And Your hair and make up are amazing!
39:55 that man was my ex bf. Not only he would allow his friends to disrespect me, he’ll join them himself. He even started it at times. I became the punching bag and the laughingstock of that entire friend group. But God forbid I’d stick up for myself because I was being too sensitive
The more things come out about his wife and their relationship I honestly feel a bit bad for them both. She personally just makes me feel like she is flip flopping for media especially when people started pointing her out for being toxic to him. Because she was so happy to take his side at first but then starts verbally snapping back at him then leaving Will on his own for the fire. I just find it ironic.
“My man did an anime antagonist laugh” bahahahahah that killed me. Also as someone who laughs for all the emotions this makes so much more sense to me. I would be cackling as I walked up to slap Chris lmao
As a native woman my hair is very important to me and I was on a journey of self love to my hair but I had it cut off by my native dad and it was choppy of course so I cut it off more and more mentally ill and I was crying and having a break down because I knew guys were going to make fun of me at school for how short it was and I was right I did get made fun of so I went back home crying even more so upset that my mom bought me extensions hair is so much more deep and emotional and should be treated and respected as such
We all have bad days and good days and haven't put ourselves far enough in someone's shoes until we realize we would make the same choices. In that moment he made that choice. That doesn't make him a "bad" person or anything like that. It seems like he had enough and maybe he has just heard to many people talking about his wife or something and was tired of it. I don't have all that information but it seems likely. At the end of the day none of us really know we will never know and we don't need to and that is ok and I hope they are all ok. Have a good night everyone. Love and light.
32:29 "When are we gonna learn that violence truly doesn't solve anything, but educated conversation, and letting people talk, and listening, and not immediately acting out irrationally" While it's true that for most situations, violence is never the answer, violence is very intrinsic to revolution on a systemic level (the American Revolution, Bacon's Rebellion, the American Civil War, the Civil Rights Movement, the Stonewall Uprising, and more recently the Black Lives Matter Protests). Meaningful change of the status quo doesn't come about peacefully. Am I saying Will Smith was correct in using violence in this situation? Absolutely not. There was no need for that in this scenario. My point is that violence sometimes _is_ the answer and shouldn't be entirely discredited. Of course, there's a time and a place for it; this situation was neither, and Will was wrong for acting rashly without thinking.
People asking for Will Smith 's Oscar be taken away while Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, Casey Affleck and other keep theirs. I'm not saying that I support Will Smith actions because I don't I just wondering, why the double standard?
You know what, *subscribes* I’ve seen a few of your videos, and I love how gentle and happy your voice sounds when you are talking. I also really like how you talk about different topics from different perspectives, and how you are genuinely a nice person. 🥰💅🏼 love your videos, stay safe.
I was gonna comment on how chris has been making sexist jokes towards jada in other award shows and how racism is making it so much harder for will when it was not that serious but in terms of the information you had at the time of the video the only thing I def disagree is that they should have settled it after, in private. The joke was made in public, as a disabled person myself, I don't think public "jokes" that are offensive should be handled privately at all. I know for a fact that for a lot of disabled folks it has been a bit cathartic to watch someone finally draw a line at the disrespect put on as a "joke". He could not have slapped chris, sure, but it sure needed to be handled in the same way the joke was, a public callout, at least.
I think Chris deserved a little slap. I'd actually like a culture where we slap people who insult our wives and mothers and daughters. Just stop screaming profanities on live television like a maniac. If you wanna defend your wife, slap him and sit back down.
Jada doesn't have a disability. The joke wasn't funny, especially for a comedian of his level, but I don't think Chris meant for it to be cruel, but it still annoyed Jada therefore it matters. Will and Jada are public figures, she could have used her celebrity status to speak out about the joke and educate people on alopecia instead of resorting to getting her husband to assault Chris Rock.
To all the people who say "oh, so we can't joke about anything now?" No, you can joke about whatever tf you want. If you want to be a jackass, you'll have to face the ✨ consequences ✨ of your offensive/insensitive/ungraceful words. If those consequences will manifest as a slap on your face or as a mature talk, that'll be up to the person you've wronged. Also, being fun without being offensive and extremely insensitive is possible, it just takes a little more brain juice.
I feel like Chris shouldn't have made the joke And Will had no right to attack chris. Why are people acting like Chris is the victim in this situation?? (My opinion)
Because Chris was joking about everyone Will Smith was even laughing too but then he slapped Chris mind you. You should never put your hands on people they are grown men not 4 year olds
@@aimeehenderson142 But who gave him the right to joke about jada if he's so called "an man" Will was defending his wife in the worst possible way. But I'm not picking sides 2 wrongs don't make an right
@@yesha3306 Because words shouldn't lead to physical assault. That would be like saying a woman isn't a victim if she runs her mouth to a man. And that man proceeds to hit her.
Thank you for voicing your opinion! It is rare to see someone who is not afraid to speak up their mind and sharing unpopular opinions. I don't know what is worse: a prestigious ceremony having Chris Rock as a host with completely flat jokes, or the fact that every line the host speaks is usually in a script preapproved by a team of professionals. Not only Chris didn't have the intelligence and class to understand how this joke was tasteless, but those "professionals" working on the script finding it ok to pass on TV. Oscars has lost all the credibility and class.
so glad you're addressing this because although this whole situation is a meme its great to explain the situation *my opinion:* the slap wasn't deserved, but the joke was dumb (if i were will i would just post a shady tweet or sum and call it a day). chris shouldn't press charges but will should get his oscar revoked*. he ruined the oscars for everone, including new actors who should have gotten the spotlight even if no one watched it (also happy belated birthday!!) *after listening to your take, i think will shouldnt get his oscar revoked, but it was still fair of him to apologize to the oscars
I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t know about her condition. She can be as open about it as she can but if no one bothers to look it up, no one’s gonna know. Probably 95% of people didn’t know she had alopecia until the aftermath of the slap.
@@ciccicux I was gonna say the same. I mean if the person who you're about to make a joke on is sensitive/cares about that specific topic then you shouldn't make that joke. It's that simple because it wouldn't be funny anymore.
I mean I didn’t know but the Smiths and Chris Rock are really close and there have been news outlets documenting the story. I feel like even if a mild friend was going through something and they’ve publicly talked about it I would’ve known about it.
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Thank you for talking about this, I also want to add more context or more of a POV. It's the Smiths family's big night. He's up to win an award. His wife has been clowned on for years. Then again on a night that was supposed to be a victory, his wife is joked on again. I honestly know violence isn't the answer, but joking about them again was distasteful. Also to add to speculations Chris has been talking about Jada since 2016, Some even say it dates back further to 1997. Some also say that Will has warned Chris, but I don't know. I don't think Will deserves to get his Oscar taken away, and I think Celebs who have charges of assault on them(or ones with problematic backgrounds) shouldn't have a say on this matter. Also, other Celebs fought at the Oscars, and I never heard anyone saying they don't deserve their Oscars. Anyways I just hope everyone will move on.
What are you talking about thought it was public knowledge that she cheated on him with Jaidens friends. Very cross relationship, care taker+ age gap + person you trust.
@@briansupermega5692 As I said before it is speculation, but the things I was talking about had nothing to do with the entanglement situation. I am also so tired of hearing about that situation. It appears that folks always use that situation to invalid her feelings.I can't speak much on it though.
@@kiara515 that’s not what I’m doing. Just saying. Also don’t invalidate someone assault by implying hurting someone because if a joke is even slightly okay or understandable .
@@briansupermega5692 Never did I invalidate the victims of the assaults. I'm just saying that when it comes down to whether or not people make distasteful jokes at others expense, it should not be met with they deserve because of what I only know from the internet. That's why I also imply I can't speak on it because I don't know.
In the most respectful way, both of them are in the wrong. Chris Rock shouldn’t of made jokes on someone else’s problems and what they’re going through. This also isn’t the first time that he made a joke about Jada. It wasn’t a funny joke. It was very insensitive. Also, yeah, you’re not supposed to disrespect someone else’s wife. You’re gonna get something coming at you. I’m not saying that violence is right but this should already be common sense. And Will Smith is in the wrong for obviously slapping Chris. He let his emotions take over him. And thats what went wrong. I personally can’t blame him because I would be furious, too if someone kept making jokes on my spouse but at the same time, I wouldn’t be hitting nobody, either. You have to pick your fist fights wisely and control your anger.
Don’t think it is true, everyone gets jokes made at their expense in these events it is the expectation if you don’t want someone to point at something in a joke that will trigger you then notify the person making the jokes. Don’t assume all bald or hair jokes are off limits because that’s to much.
With all due respect, it’s common courtesy not to make jokes like that at someone’s expense and someone shouldn’t have to notify you before ahead of time. People get called sensitive all the time these days but the truth is, is that the people that are actually calling others sensitive are calling them that because they want to say what they want to say without consequences. However, there always is and always will be. Even if we as a society don’t agree with the consequences being made, they still happened! We don’t agree with Will Smith slapping him, absolutely not. It could have been handled better! But, it still happened! And Even if it didn’t happen, something still would have happened sometime after, like, Maybe, if Will Smith had talked to Chris Rock after his act, and said “hey, this wasn’t cool”, or something else! But, this was not the case and we have to see both sides here. Neither side is in the right because neither side showed how to act right in this specific situation. But, Once again, in the most respectful way, I don’t agree with your statement. How was Will Smith supposed to know that he was going to make jokes like that? None of us knew. So, if we don’t know what’s going to happen, we can’t just go up to someone and go “don’t make these jokes about me because they trigger me” what??
your opinion of the situation is my favorite and well executed. HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY BEAUTY!!! I love Jada, Will and Chris.. In that eye roll moment, i cant unsee Fish from Gotham
Salem, thank you for putting your spin on this topic. I agree with a lot of the points you made. I personally do not think Will Smith did anything wrong, but I understand why certain people were offended. At the end of the day, everyone needs to be mindful on what they say. Also, PLEASE MAKE THE AMY SCHUMER VIDEO👁👄👁‼️It’s about time we talk about her wrongdoings in a constructive way🦆
@@JulianSteve if your opinion is that initiating violence on to another person isn’t wrong, assaulting someone isn’t wrong then your opinion isn’t worth anything. Pls grow as a person and understand the pain that does.
It's hilarious how they're banning will smith for an incident I think he's in the right for, shouldn't have hit him but chris shouldn't have been making those jokes about his wife. So many other people have done worse, people nominated and given awards who have had sexual harassment/assault cases at the time, people being praised when they have had to be held back from assaulting others yet they get to stay in the Oscar's and have nominations. John Wayne and Sacheen Littlefeather is a perfect example, yet he was still praised and allowed in the Oscar's. Its fucked up and they know it
I saw someone say that it was because it didn’t happen at the Oscars but in a way that made it seem that the Oscars were in the right even though that’s exactly the problem! Because it didn’t happen at the Oscars they don’t care about it but as soon as it makes them look bad they care so much about it!
i'll say, i do agree with your point about making "dark" jokes under the circumstances that it's happening to you, as you had mentioned. it remimds me of a quote i constantly come back to from alexandra erin on twitter, "sure. there's such thing as gallows humor. but are you the one on the gallows? if the person on the gallows makes a grim joke, that's gallows humor. if someone in the crowd makes a joke, that's part of the execution."
I legit burp all the damn time. My mom says I've been doing it since I was a toddler & that my youngest uncle who was like 18 at the time thought it was the best thing ever, & I went on to be his favorite niece lol. Some of us swallow air when we eat, drink, & even speak. 🤷🏽♀️ And I'm always telling people to be grateful it's not coming out the other end 😏
It just upsets me because I know there were many other people who worked their a$$ off to be there and their light was taken from them and put on will and Chris
It is mortally wrong to punch people or hit someone even if you disagree with them the thing is some people over exaggerated this situation and act like Will killed Chris or smth and there was blood like no he just slapped him which is still wrong
No way Salem!!! Been watching you since over a year now and just found out we have the same birthday!!!! really really awesome, no wonder I've always vibed with you and we also share A LOT of traits together. Love you so much boo❤️ you'd definitely be my human if you were in my life.
about the "Jada provoking the slap by rolling her eyes" topic, i actually read that MAYBE, after will smith laughing at the joke and seeing that it didn't sit well on her, HE felt bad for laughing and it's the reason why he got up and slap Chris, bc in that moment Chris not only humiliated Jada, but also Will since he laughed at a joke made at Jada's expenses
@@lorrella8571 of course not!! will is the one that slap Chris and that's on him, but I found this could be a possible reason behind his reaction. Still, not Jada's fault AT ALL
It's kind of a situation where everyone is kind of an asshole. The joke was in poor taste, but Will was wildly out of line and is a grown adult and made his own bad decisions. But Jada has also been proven to be a pretty gross person, especially in her marriage, and I feel like Will is not in a healthy mental place and she is a huge contributing factor in that. She did not make him go up there and didn't even ask him to, but her laughing after he assaulted someone on live tv shows that she doesn't care about Will either.
Unpopular opinion: *Both* Chris and Will could have been asked to leave and someone else could have presented Will’s award to Jada and let her be the one to make a speech and have a moment in the spotlight on stage. Of course, this is more of an ideal than reality.
Happy belated 23rd birthday, Salem! I’ve really enjoyed your videos over the past year I’ve been watching 5em. You’re hilarious and I look forward to more amazing videos from your Chanel🥰.
Salem I love you 😂 Post on whatever damn schedule you want cuz I’m gonna watch it no matter how long it’s been since your last video And two, you better keep belching loud and proud because we enjoy your authentic self 💕
I totally agree on a lot of stuff you have said. You must pretty please, with a cherry on top, make a podcast! I love your energy and conversations. I could literally listen to you all day every day. You should definitely think about it.🦆🦆🦆
Salem, you really inspire me to do my makeup in a fun and creative way. Some of my favourite afternoons are the ones, when i put on one of your videos and i do my makeup while listening to your calming voice. 🦆
My take on it was both people were being shitty. I could also understand why Smith was upset. If Smith had of stuck to heckling/yelling he wouldn’t have been out of line because comedians are used to being heckled but slapping is not something that happens in a comedy club. The person would have been removed for assaulting the comedian.
🦆 I loved this video so freakin much. I relate to Salem so much on this one, I thought barely anyone had the same opinion on the situation as I did. Both sides are wrong, and it's dumb of people to just blame one person (especially the victim of the joke). Such wise words, thank you so much ❤️❤️
As a Black woman, our hair is held to such a high degree and many of us are ridiculed if it doesn’t look “presentable” (examples: wearing your natural hair out & not having it done, leave out not fully blended, wearing braids past their expiration, and being bald). No one really understands what we go through as Black woman to maintain our hair. I hate how everyone chalked it up to Will being overly emotional & over-reacting, Chris being the victim, yet no one focused on how Jada felt. If you don’t understand the dynamics of a certain situation, I suggest people should just listen then speak (or don’t). I know comedy isn’t supposed to have any real boundaries on who or what they can joke about but I’m tired of Black women being the butt of the joke and I refuse to allow it anymore. It’s been going on for way too long and the only thing that it invites is people of all races and genders to join on downing our image. I don’t care about what happened to Chris Rock because he, too has degraded Black women in the past. That is my BIASED opinion and I stand by that.✌🏾
Him joking about her hairstyle compared to what another comedian would have mentioned (like her cheating) was like him saying that they're so "normal" that the only thing we can mention about them "for fun" is her hairstyle. Which makes her reaction not only disproportionate but also not in her favor. Also i hollered at the "I pull a light yagami" cheers
Before I watch this my opinion is that the joke shouldn’t have been said the first place but also will smith completely over reacted, it was just a in the moment joke . Will didn’t need to make such a big deal out of it
Fair enough. I think that comedy shouldn't have limits. I saw a comedy segment from a guy about the similarities of Muslims and mosquito's. Yes it's very offensive but it was a lot funnier with the context. If we limit the jokes comedians can make for the fear of being assaulted, comedy will fall. Because a large part of it is dark, exposing the dark sides of reality. Chris made a joke that upset some people and then went on to continue. I think he was well within his right to make the joke and if it didn't stick with the audience then what can he do but move on.
Well in reality to make fun of a black woman's hair in front of a crowd of people is kind of a big deal , but in a way I do get what you're saying. Personally as a black person, it's kind of satisfying to see someone actually get checked for making of jokes towards black women in general. I do feel like the situation could have been handled better, but I find myself being thankful it got handed at all . (if you understand what I mean)
@@gh0.st_tears942 yeah I understand:) also ty for understanding my opinion, a lot of people just get all upset when someone’s opinion isn’t the same as theirs
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I hate when people say "Don't disrepect a mans wife/girl". Just say don't disrespect women at all because with that sentence it seems like it's just about disrespecting the mans pride and nothing about the woman at all.
Reducing the respect a woman deserves, to her relationship with a man isn't cute!
Also, a don't need a man to physically assault someone to "defend my honor."
I know people will disagree with this, but I'm ok with that. It's ok for someone to defend their wife, just the same with someone's. Someone's family, kids, friends, or etc. They are being insulted, criticized, and attacked directly. Saying you should attack women, men, or people can come off as indifferent and it doesn't acknowledge the person or people you are with directly.
fr like she’s her own person, she doesn’t belong to will
@@pluto545 someone wanting to defend their partner isn't the problem. Will wanting to defend Jada isn't the problem, the problem is people online saying things like "don't disrespect someone's girl"
Please do the Amy Schumer video. She is one of the worst celebrities to self-label as a "feminist" despite behaving like anything but a feminst and she's been able to get away with TOO long.
@ᴄᴏᴜʀᴛɴᴇʏ ᴡʜɪᴛᴍᴏʀᴇ This so much. I have despised Lena Dunham for years because of this and a bunch of other crap she's said and done.
Agreed
She’s the epitome of a pick me girl
I wish to know more of her too! And Salem would be the best for that UwU
she ain't a a pick me girl she's a feminist... pick me girls r way lot better than her... she even steals other ppl's jokes & have done it many times & says she never steals others jokes... she even has said r@pe jokes..
the situation is ridiculous and been dragged on for way too long. also, your look is amazing
apparently will got banned for 10 YEARS? BYE. That's extremely dramatic, they need to keep the same energy with other celebs who've done waaaaayyyy worse...
@@_salemtovar_ THE OSCARS LITERALLY GAVE AN RAPIST AN OSCAR!? AND LET HIM COME THERE AN HONOR HIM?!
@@_salemtovar_ frfr
@@_salemtovar_ I agree with you Salem. The Academy dragged it, but whatever. At least Will Smith has his award🤷🏾♂️💯
@@_salemtovar_ It really isn’t dramatic. Because think about what would of happened if Christ fought back, If people escalated, if someone had a gun or if Christ for seriously injured. You have to punish this type of behaviour severely so it won’t happen in the future.
Also cuz money, less people will come, less people will feel safe, if they don’t punish him like that. Means less sponsors and less money.
Idk about Will Smith or whatever but people really took this situation to blame Jada for everything. Assuming that she straight up TOLD him to do it or encouraged him even though all we saw was her rolling her eyes, and then people getting mad when she later condemned it. Also people really overdid it, some people on Twitter were talking about 'collective trauma' like dude, you did not witness a murder, please come off it.
the word for this is misogynoir
Exactly because she's woman
@@christineodogwu8042 I think it's more of overjudgement in character than that per say considering there's an allegation of Jada cheat on will. It could be for your reason buts most likely the other.
But we actually don't know wheither she said anything ir not, so we can't be 100% sure she had nothing to do with it, because as You said, we didn't see what happened between Will and Jada for some seconds. I'm not saying it's her fault, but we can't Say she didn't Say anything just as we can't Say she did Say something, we shouldn't assume.
@@aliciasodidavila1813 I mean, why assume she did if you know you have no evidence? It's like coming to someone and assuming that they have been to prison because you have no evidence to the contrary, so it somehow makes it a 50/50. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim. I did not claim she did not do it either, by the way.
Adding to you and your fiance's suggestions about what Will could have done to approach the situation more differently, I think it would been more better for him to received the award and let everyone know that it was very distasteful joke from Chris to talk about his wife in a way like that, briefly explaining about her situation, which will not only shutdown Chris but as well as other people that laughed with him.
Regardless, I believe that the situation could have been sorted out better.
or, you know.. just take the joke
@@env0x because joking about someone's appearance is funny.
@@ourloveisgreat1398 different people find different jokes funny. Stop whining and just deal with it.
@@ourloveisgreat1398 it was to Will, apparently. because he laughed at first.
You’re right! If he had just gone on stage to accept his award and in his speech if he absolutely roasted Chris Rock with a logical explanation of his wife’s condition and the emotional stress it’s caused her and how jokes like that are outdated and not clever or funny it would have been ACTUALLY legendary!!! But instead he acted like a child and hit him.. I’m still Team Will but yeah should’ve handled it better bud😂😂
Salem, also, I want to give some perspective. As a black woman who grew up in the USA around other black people, baldness has ALWAYS been a negative joke about us. If we wear a wig or weave, a lot of black men would joke that we're bald under there. Even to this day a lot of black men talk trash about our hair, lack of hair, short hair, kinky hair (the same hair they have!!), wig/weave wearing, etc. so to me, joking about being bald is painful. I agree with you, that I don't think Chris Rock meant it negatively. He didn't know she had alopecia and he literally made a movie about how bad relaxers are because he wanted his black daughters to love their naturally kinky hair!! However, we still get called "bald-headed" to this day as an insult usually by black men so I think he really shouldve thought about that. Edit: Okay so I prematurely wrote this comment. Didn't realize you talked about the Bad Hair movie.
I totally agree. I am white so could not experience it on myself but was thinking exactly this. It is really disgusting when black man are trashing their own race female. They are trashing yourself too. And I can just say you only reason they do it is that they feel bad about yourself so they have to put down someone else that are similar to them
Whatever happened, I can't get this one tweet I saw out of my head. This one (white) lady was on Twitter saying "I can't believe we had to see such extreme violence my kids were exposed to it"
And not to be dramatic... But there are so many places in the world where there is actual violence and oppression and I'm so sorry Samantha that you and your extraordinarily privileged family had to see one open handed strike.
The way so many people (including celebrities) used this situation to spew their anti blackness, clear racism and respectability politics was disgusting. The blatant misogynoir against Jada is also unjustified.
I totally agree. Also people keep blaming Jada? Like she didn’t ask Will to slap Chris? Why is it suddenly her fault? The blatant sexism is astonishing…
Agreed
yes and it's sad since everyone involved is black so it doesn't make sense
I’m black and unsubscribed a lot of yt channels cuz of this. YT right wing and boomers were biased and dragging this way too much to make it a black on black crime thing. The mammying from some black folks was annoying too.
@@cruelpopsicle8463 How is it sexism? We all know Jada brags about sleeping with other men on live television, in front of Smith. She herself wasn't justified either.
Am I the only one who figured Will laughed at first because he was just on laugh autopilot (like, for him & the other nominees, they're basically *working* there with their best work manners switched on) & it took a few seconds to process & actually realize what the "joke" was?
Thank you kindly because this is my exact understanding. Not the Oscars, but in a wedding setting with plenty of guests, light jokes and small talk, I often have my biggest grin and put on my most bubbly and giggly persona which is what I felt Will Smith did. He was simply automatically laughing probably without really understanding/analyzing the jokes themselves.
I mean, no, considering he's made fun of bald people himself. Pretty sure he just thought it was funny and only changed his mind when he realised Jada didn't share his appreciation for the joke.
No but I think it was more his que to go up n slap him..
For me personally I fall on several lines. Will should have kept his hands to himself. No one has the right to places their hands upon another person. Chris should have kept his jokes tamer when it comes to a black woman's hair especially since his daughters had issues accepting theirs. Also it was just a joke and while it offended Jada, Will could have simply used his words like he did AFTER the fact.
very well said! 👏👏👏
I like this take. everyone always feel like they need to take sides when i think everyone was at fault in some way.
i 100% agree with this
exactly but ppl want to push off chris’s “joke” and just assume we’re sensitive when that’s not the problem at hand
and y’all might get mad at my but will W chris L
Saying it was “just a joke” ain’t it.
i agree with most of your points, but i do have this to say: jada pinkett smith and chris rock have never had a good relationship, and i could understand why she might've reacted differently to him making that joke compared to other ppl speaking on her baldness. basically, chris rock has been picking on jada for about 25 years because she rejected him. also the idea of joking about a black woman's hair in front of a bunch of white ppl is very very icky. u shouldn't really make certain statements in mixed company
also btw have to say that chris's hair documentary spent a lot of time bashing black woman for their decisions on their hair instead of enlightening ppl on the struggles with black hair
and (lastly!) the whole idea of saying that "this should've been dealt with in private" is odd because the joke was made in public
I would also say that a black man slapping another black man in front of a room full of white people on national television is just as distasteful. It’s given so many racist the excuse to be saying many inappropriate things about Jada as a black woman and Will as a black man.
@@SweetNothing937 Who cares what white people think? If it was a room of black people, would it be just as distasteful?
Best take I've seen on this. Yes, Will should not have slapped him, that's fair to say, but also if the initial disrespect was public then the backlash should have been public to make the statement that what Chris Rock said was NOT okay. Even then I wonder if Will using his acceptance speech to put Chris in his place would have even been as impactful as the slap. The thing that irks me now is that too many people are acting like the morality police and writing dissertations supporting Chris Rock, buying out his shows and advocating for a man who routinely exhibits misogynoir and makes anti-black women jokes. As a black woman, it really shows me that black women are truly one of the most disrespected groups of women and no one is really here for us.
the last point, you saying it wouldn't make sense to handle it privately because the joke was public, what would be your ideal alternative?
@@bug3954 i thought the yell was the only thing he should've done the hit was def unnecessary
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That was so funny lol
@@ezarbeluh9989 I really hope there are as many jokes in this as I was able to detect. And not fewer.
comedy gold
Hilarious.
One of my main issue with the people defending Chris, is that they tend to minimize what was said to Jada. Which is just not okay. “It was just a joke.” Doesn’t justify anything. Making a joke at the expense of someone else isn’t “just a joke.”
Also bit of a hot take- I believe that it is wrong to make a joke at the expense of someone else’s illness AND ALSO to physically assault someone. Lol like both can be wrong idk.
I’m not trying to defend it but we joke about that kind of stuff so much in society. Not that it makes it OK, but for us to say that appearance jokes are low blow is extremely hypocritical considering we have people who make a living off of that comedy. For example, RUclips commentators. What we really need to figure out is, what is OK in comedy and what is not. It’s either all OK or it’s not OK at all. We really can’t have an in between because it’s going to be at somebody’s expense either way.
Did Chris know about her disease? I'll be honest, I didn't even know she had it until after the Will slapping Chris incident. I think the joke was aimed more at just the haircut itself and not the fact that she's losing hair. I can understand why Jada would get upset, but I don't think Chris was trying to make fun of her disease specifically. He just compared her hairstyle to the woman's hairstyle from GI Jane. However, Jada's feelings towards the joke are valid and she's allowed to be offended. I feel like no one can ever admit that they disliked a joke anymore without people online getting angry and calling you a "snowflake".
Still, no physical violence should've been present regardless.
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They're not a good comedian TO YOU, but that's actually the most coveted content from comedians. People are almost always the subject or butt of a joke, whether it be men, women, married couples, celebrities, the rich, the poor, children, the elderly, people in various professions. Even subjects that don't target a specific person still effect people. Jokes about mental illness, for example. A comedian might not target anyone by name, but by joking about the mental illness, they're offending many people. The issue here is plenty of people with mental illnesses find that kind of comedy funny. I know I do. You yourself probably don't even realise that you're laughing at someone or something someone does/suffers when you consume comedy. It's pretty much inevitable.
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He didn't know about her condition. He thought her haircut was a stylistic choice.
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Which is why I ended my comment with, "You yourself probably don't even realise that you're laughing at someone or something someone does/suffers when you consume comedy. It's pretty much inevitable."
Reading comprehension sure is important, isn't it?
Regardless of how people feel tbh Will shouldn’t have been banned for 10 years. Celebrities have done worse things and are still celebrated
Thats what I'm saying. Yes Will should be punished but not to this extent. Nor do I think he should've gave his award back since the same award show has praised people worst than him.
YES! I think take his tropies back is already enough, this is too much.
@@idontknowmyname.9202 hell no, bann him for like 2 years, his performance was great
@@idontknowmyname.9202 i don’t even think his award should be taken. Ban him for a year or two. Harvey Weinstein and many other predators still have their awards
@@idontknowmyname.9202 his rewards should not be taken
To be honest, saw it trending and I just ignored it. Award shows are just celebrities getting to wear fashion designer evening wear, jewelry and accessories and flaunt their "looks and wealth". There is a reason why award shows are losing their viewership. Nobody can relate to these people.
And if Chris, Will and Jada were unknown. No one would bat an eye.
Then why are you here…
We have all the same opinions! 🙌
Also, I wanted to mention that I’m really glad you mentioned Will’s “laugh” because I was getting really tired of seeing people say he thought the joke was funny. Like, NO, it was clear he was not in a good mood (and understanding facial expressions is difficult for me because I’m autistic). People really can’t let a grown man take responsibility for his own actions? 🙄
As I see it it went like this:
1. Will didn't get the joke
2. Will laughed with everyone because it's the thing to do when you don't get a joke
3. Jada explained the joke
4. Will realized he should bee offended
I just wish everyone would have appreciated it for the memes and let the people involved handle the rest instead of turning it into some kind of moral panic. A+ slap execution by Will, Chris has a chin of steel and the academy got the publicity it deserves - win win win imo.
Will Smith career is being ended by Hollywood and that's the only thing people will remember of this night when it was supposed to be the celebration for his first Oscar. He absolutely lost it all here.
Win win except for the person who got hit for making a joke. Violence is lame.
His career hasn't ENDED fuckyouverymuch. What has ended is the constant in demand of a Humans time so, he can Deservingly rest.
@@jenesishunter9674 Chill out girl. He's been banned from the academy and all his movie deals are being canceled left and right. I'm not anti Will Smith but that's literally just a fact.
His movie's are actually on hold, I haven't seem they say that there canceled. One dictator even said that they will still work with him after this.
You are so young and so wise. Woman, burp, fart, dip, come back, do you. "They" will always hate what's real. As an older gay and elder millennial man regaining his confidence and healing, you are an inspiration. You and your sister are everything. Stay awake, stay real, you are love and loved.
Anytime someone has to dress up in tuxs and gowns for an event you know it’s gonna be boring LOL. You’re so right about no one watches or cares about award shows anymore. We all use to watch the MTV awards for controversy years ago and even that fell off 🤷🏾♀️
Yes please do Amy!! I loved your take on this topic. I know there was a clip going around of Chris talking to the Smith’s during a commercial break, so I’m sure he apologized. I also love that people bought up tickets to his comedy show the next night to potentially hear him tear down the Smith’s, and he just said that he wouldn’t be discussing the incident until he had time to process it first.
omg, loving the hair clips! im so happy that you're explaining everything that's happening, because we really need someone who's smart and can look on both sides to explain it. i think that chris shouldn't have made the joke, and will shouldn't have slapped him. both were wrong. i also think that its wrong that will is getting banned when r*p*sts and ab*s*rs dont get banned. also, the makeup is ✨exquisite✨
I agree on all points
That's a pretty dumb take. A comedian should be able to Joke about anything. If you don't find it funny then just sit down and shut up (or leave) and let others enjoy the act. Nobody's forcing you to laugh.
If you slap that comedian because your fragile ego cant take a little joke, obviously there should be consequences. Will smith shouldn't get a pass just because he's your favorite hollywood hero.
@@adriangeh6414 I disagree. To me, humour should stop being humour when it’s taking shots at other people, a lot of people in the audience didn’t find it funny anyway and I’m kind of surprised that made the cut for an official hosting job, and just because it’s a joke doesn’t mean he can’t face consequences. Something being humour doesn’t stop it from being rude or out of line and, to me, making a unwarranted joke about someone’s hair, especially one that comes from a medical condition and when the person has talked about struggling with it, deserves criticism. But, just to be clear, I don’t think that action should have been to hit him. Two wrongs don’t make a right, and Will didn’t need to be the one to call it out, Jada has a mouth.
@@Rachel-ft7hm like i said, if your ego/feelings can't handle a joke, just sit down and shut up or leave, let others enjoy the act. Nobody is forcing you to stay there and laugh and you can feel as offended as you like Outside. But don't interrupt the show with your tantrums. The world does not revolve around your fragile ego.
@@adriangeh6414 your ego can’t appear to handle my opinion, if you can’t stand having conversation on the internet with people who don’t agree with you without insulting them (without any originality might I add), maybe you should log off your account.
The world doesn’t revolve around either of us so I assume that me adding my thoughts to the conversation shouldn’t matter in the slightest because (obviously) my OPINION doesn’t matter in the big picture. But it seems you might need to check your sense of self worth and hypocrisy. It appears the only one throwing a tantrum here is you as everyone else is voicing their opinions in a calm and collected way which, again, you are clearly not.
Im so glad you mentioned the meaning behind Will's laugh, I was totally thinking the same thing. There's no way he was laughing at the joke itself.
Dude, before watching the video, I just wanna say that the week this happened, my social media was FILLED with this and I was so done.😂 But when my professor in the university made us do an analysis of the situation...I was NOT👏HAVING👏IT👏😂
Wey, el Will Esmit y el Chris Roca me tenían malll. 😂
not will esmit & chris roca lmaoooooo- 😂
I'm from Mexico what country are you going to school?
I saw someone else say this and it stuck on my mind: If rich people wanna fight themselves in public important-to-rich-ppl events i hope they go for it
Off the topic and more important than it: you make up is pure art today omg it looks so cool (your hair too)
love from 🇧🇷 queen
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It all depends what stance you wish to take. Legally, Will should not have hit anyone. Verbal violence (targeting Jada not only once) does not excuse physical violence under the law. Morally though, that depends on you. If you keep coming for a person (the fact that she rejected him several years ago is not lost in me) and are shock when something happens....Its like come on. I'm not talking about a single joke, I am talking about continuously coming for Jada, aka a pattern. If this had been one joke it would be like wth Will (for the slap, not cussing him out. Him standing up for a BW is something rarely society does and should happen far more often).
Whatever your stance is on the slap its fine but if you're using this as an excuse to drag Jada when she did nothing wrong, just because you're upset that a woman, especially a BW, is an open relationship (where BOTH agree) and is enjoying it instead of having her husband have all the fun, then you're a POS.
If you're using this to spew out your racism and misogyny, you're a POS. If you're condemning Will to hell for this and are saying he should get his Oscar revoked....Please keep the energy the same for the pedophiles, rapists, racists, and other horrible people that have gotten an Oscar. Since these exceed the act of a slap. Like if you genuinely think that trophy is based on morality then a crap ton of people would not have Oscars.
You might wanna change POC to POS lol but I agree with you
@@lorrella8571 OMG! Yes! 😭😭 Ty for correcting me! Thats making me laugh. 😭
Jada is literally emotionally abusing Will Smith. We can see it in multiple videos of her admitting she didn’t want to marry him, her humiliating him on public show by admitting she wasn’t sorry for cuckolding with their son Jaden’s friends, the fact she slept with her son’s friend who was in a mentally weak position while recovering from addiction and no one pointed it out how predatory that behaviour is, her recording him when he wanted privacy in his own house and calling his reasonable request “foolishness”. Why is no other female RUclipsr talking about it? Will Smith is being emotionally abused.
YES THANK YOU. You were the exact comment I was looking for. I gave a POV about how the Smith family night could've been going and said speculation in my comment on here about him talking crap about her for years, but then someone tried to throw the entanglement situation in as well. Well put.
the whataboutism here is too much. no one here is defending pedophiles and rapists attending the oscar’s?? they should be banned as well but that has nothing to do with will. there’s a difference between hitting a big celebrity live at the oscar’s and hitting someone on the street or within your own home. the fact that it occurred at the oscar’s means they HAVE to respond. if you’re using will smith’s blackness to defend his behavior, you’re a pos. i don’t think will should have his Oscar revoked but he def deserved the ban from the Oscars ceremony.
The plot of G.I. Jane is fairly misogynistic, with the main character being abused by men in power because she was considered ultra-feminine and was being (politically) used to make the Navy Seals "gender-neutral." There's a lot of "I'm not like the other girls" throughout the film on top of the societal stereotype of "women hate other women". It is a hyper-masculine war fantasy film that came out in the late '90s. This is why Chris Rock referencing that particular film was in poor taste, on top of using Jada (or any other black woman) as a target of his jokes.
After just 1 day, I got fed up with all the memes & EVERYONE posting about it, so I stopped using social media, but I LOVE hearing your insights, so here I am💜
🐥 firstly, you are soo gorgeous and I’m loving this look! Secondly, I enjoyed your rant-y perspective. I felt sad for him almost immediately after the shock. The way he cried after such a wave of anger reminded me of how I struggle with dealing with anger healthily. My family does not and I’ve always been afraid to be out of control with it myself. I would push it down and not deal with it for a long time. When I finally would (usually not how I would have liked) I would usually cry from the intense emotion. I liked your problem solving and hope he gets some therapy and healing. Therapy helped me a lot (still a WIP). I’m very surprised that you are only 23. Woman, you are so very wise! Can’t wait for the next video! 🐣
how to like this comment more than once? ;)
I’m so over this drama but I’m always ready to watch another of Salems masterpieces
They just trying blow these up. Hollywood hope these would cover the case of Amber Heard and Johnny Depp trial since the Hollywood support Amber Heard that's why she was still in aquaman 2 while Johnny Depp had to lost his franchise even when it was exposed that her bruised were all make up
It's weird that people try to blame Jada. Will obviously had an emotional reaction to Jada being upset, but he ultimately made the choice to go up on stage and slap Chris. That also explains why he took a few seconds to react, it sunk in that Jada was hurt.
Jada is also in the wrong she definitely enjoyed Chris being slapped she freaking laughs & giggles at it after will slapped chris
@@thisulwickramarachchi2380girl bye
As a black woman you don’t talk about a black woman’s hair like that. Definitely doesn’t justify Will’s actions but Chris is definitely NOT innocent like a lot of people are painting him to me. If he was a white man said the same thing, Black Twitter would go on a rampage. Just my two cents.
fr. i'm white, so my perspective may be different, but i feel like a lot of the insults aimmed at black women's appearances are about them being 'manly' and somehow less womanly, so making a joke aimmed at her hair (specially about it being shaved, something associated with men), was cruel. hair is such a strong point of identity, especially with black women who face so many struggles with it being accepted.
@@thechumbucket8986 bruh wtf
@@thechumbucket8986 now u know damn well ur comment wasn't it-
Don’t think blAck women are special when it comes to bald or hair jokes. Still at the same time you can recognize why it hurts them, but you gotta recognize that it’s dum to rank mental distress .
@@briansupermega5692 Not you being a whole clown. White women haven’t been mocked for their hair for ages, but you know who has? Black women. Don’t open your mouth if you don’t know what you are talking about.
You are well-spoken. Your analysis is thought-provoking. Your look is fire. As an 50 year old Gen X woman, I gladly learn from you. Also...your look is adorable. Thank you for the video. Whatever time you need you need between posts, it's good. Thank you for sharing anything you can. 🦆🦆🦆
I really love the idea of uplifting your partner in the moment and finding the right time to address the negative joke/comment. Sometimes that might be the exact same moment (and maybe sometimes a firm, not-meant-to-be-cruel slap has a place) but I like the general principle. I do think this particular situation would have played out better for everyone if it had gone like you said. Here’s hoping it can be a learning moment for all parties!
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Comedy and jokes also have boundaries so 'it was just a joke' is not acceptable & justified more so if the person on whom the joke was surrounded feels offended. Will's action to resort to violence was also wrong though, it could have been in the heat of the moment but it was a little immature but not to the extent that his award should be revoked yada yada. Also this situation is so stretched 🦋
A little immature?He committed a crime.
You can't go and slap people wtff.
@@gumihoreyiz everyone has their opinion. Legally it does come under crime but all individuals have their opinion I condemn his actions violence was obvio not the answer but personally I would not go as far as to say his awards should be revoked or he should be behind bars. It's all Chris' decision if he wants to sue or whatever at the end of the day so who anyone one of us is to say anything. I agree w Salem that this could have been settled privately and also respect your stance have a nice day 👌🏻
Jada is literally emotionally abusing Will Smith. We can see it in multiple videos of her admitting she didn’t want to marry him, her humiliating him on public show by admitting she wasn’t sorry for cuckolding with their son Jaden’s friends, the fact she slept with her son’s friend who was in a mentally weak position while recovering from addiction and no one pointed it out how predatory that behaviour is, her recording him when he wanted privacy in his own house and calling his reasonable request “foolishness”. Why is no other female RUclipsr talking about it? Will Smith is being emotionally abused.
@@nightly765 Comedy should have boundaries unless the person or group who the joke is about says it’s okay if it’s about you and what you’ve gone through or something like that it’s up to you. People go through things that they don’t want to be used to joke about and that’s okay and valid. Btw this is just my opinion not trying to argue.
@@gumihoreyiz Chris Rock is unfazed and doesn't care about this back and forth the public is having on his behalf.. You ain't gonna get paid for this and you're gonna waste your time arguing with people online who have their own opinion and you aren't gonna convince them to change it just because you have a different opinion..I can guarantee that this is just gonna be a pointless back and forth that nobody benefits from..even if Chris did press charges like everyone so badly wants.. thats pocket change to them so.. why you mad? How would this affect your quality of life? Do you get the money? Like this is such a non issue.
Love these hot takes: I feel like no one in this situation has been given the benefit of the doubt. You did that in a compassionate way, while not excusing wrong actions
The only reason the whole thing is such a big deal is because he actually physically hit him. That's what makes it so shocking and buzzworthy. If Will would have just yelled at him it wouldn't have been nowhere near as discussed as it was.
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Still surprised at how popular this thing became though, compared to other stuff it seems tame to me
When Chris Rock has moved on, isn't pressing charges, is still making bank, unfazed and isn't reading or remotely interested in anything the fans are pressed or arguing about a situation they weren't in.. it's kind of funny how yall live vicariously.
meanwhile the United States government bombing innocent people was not a hot topic. interesting...
Fr, if Will would have simply ignored it, no one would have remembered the joke or this specific Oscars. If he would have screamed, people would have mentioned it for a bit but still forgotten. But no, he immediately went to the most extreme and is being talked about till no end
@@saphirothplaysbad4708 I agree. I was so disgusted with how long this has been tallied about, and the amount of hate sent Will and Jada’s way. Especially since Will is a ‘supposedly’ liked celebrity. Can’t help but feel some type of way about it.
This whole situation is just stupid. The respectability politics are ironic.
But this whole thing showed people's true colors.
when all three are black
I loved your take on how when it comes to a relationship, you’re a partnership and how one should deal with something when it comes to someone insulting your partner. A while back, someone came up to my boyfriend, saying he didn’t like me because I was “such a terrible influence on his girlfriend” (which he abused) and that my boyfriend should talk to me and “put me in my place”. My boyfriend told him “I’m not going to talk to her about that. You have a problem with her. You need to address it with her. Just prepare yourself for the consequences”. Of course, that person never told me anything to my face, I only found this out because of my boyfriend and a friend of ours that was there when the conversation went down. Honestly, I appreciate how my boyfriend handled the situation because he did not get violent, and he gave me the respect I deserved as his partner and as an individual.
I love you're POVs. Thanks for chiming in on this matter. You're always so logical and still make it fun 💜☮️ Glad to see you're doing well and Happy Birthday 🎉👏
Sigh. The only thing I'm mad about with this is the fact that Will slapping Chris essentially gave permission for non-Black people to get into our business. There's quite a bit of context and nuance missing here.
Firstly, Chris' Good Hair Documentary was made after pressure because of how he repeatedly made jokes laced in misogynoir around Black women's hair. I and many other Black women found the tone of that documentary very mocking. Secondly, Chris has a history and habit of attacking Jada with his jokes, and Will previously warned Chris to keep her name out of his mouth.
Do I agree with slapping people in public? No. But I also don't think Will was being overly sensitive/reactive about it.
Edited to add...I've read more of the comments and people are really out here trying to make Jada out to be some kind of villain controlling Will 😳 Not saying she's perfect, but that too is anti-Blackness. Y'all should just admit you dislike Black women and don't think we should ever feel upset 🙄.
I might get dragged for this but I think *BOTH* parties were in the wrong- 🏃♀️💨
nah cause lowkey u right
@@_salemtovar_ thanks queen
Periodt.
Do you believe that in domestic disputes when a woman runs her mouth to a man and he hits her?
@@kevinlee9929 man this isn't the same situation. Like this is clearly an event where jokes are being told. Obviously violence isn't the answer. And domestic abuse is not acceptable. Regardless if it's a man or woman who commits the violence.
As a black woman you has been socialised to hate their hair I saw this from a different viewpoint. Nothing was wrong with yours but there is more nuance needed. Block women are always disrespected and the butt off the joke, the joule was distasteful and I do no condone violence but I did feel a slight ease when I saw Will not sit there and do nothing. It could’ve been a bald joke but there are negatives with that.
The way the celebrities reacted was uncalled for and was low-key racist af. THE COMMENTS 🙄🙄
Maybe unpopular opinion here (maybe not i don't know) But what really piss me off on this case is that people are really on their high horses,giving life lessons about violence while having racist biaises(especially white feminists).Nobody was in Wills head that night but his violence was pure reaction. As a black woman,his slap gave me satisfaction because usually there is no consequences to misogynoir. Not the best reaction, i'm not excusing his behavior but i understand it. Mocking a black woman,her disease, in front of a mostly white audience is not a joke this a humiliation.
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fr im tired of us being the bottom of the joke in everything. LIKE IM TIRED
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Fr and it’s more irritating when people like oj Simpson and Alec Baldwin THINK they have the right to speak on it like 🧍🏾♀️
Worry about you’re own problems 💀
@@ihavenothingbettertodowith2358 Right! When I saw those two open their mouths to speak on the matter, I was immediately like "why would I listen to you???". Even my mother started laughing when I told her OJ Simpson and Alec Baldwin condemned Will Smith. And I agree, as black women we are just so tired of being the butt of so many "jokes" and insults but because people rarely see us as deserving of our humanity, they will not empathize or even try to understand our hurt.
Amen!!!!! All the hypothetical scenarios about how they would never...while ignoring the fact that Jada has tolerated Chris' "jokes" about her for years. People seem to want Jada to be a villain who didn't deserve to be defended. They're exposing their own misogynoir big time...
A Slowpoke here! That's the reason why I wanted to watch your video and know your opinion because you mention really strong points and different perspectives that gave me a whole different point of view of the situation. Love your vids! And Your hair and make up are amazing!
What you said about Will’s laugh before he hit Chris!!! That was my exact thought too. I’m so glad someone finally said it
I completely disagree. You can tell from the body language it was a "haha" laugh, not a "so you've chosen death" laugh.
39:55 that man was my ex bf. Not only he would allow his friends to disrespect me, he’ll join them himself. He even started it at times. I became the punching bag and the laughingstock of that entire friend group. But God forbid I’d stick up for myself because I was being too sensitive
The more things come out about his wife and their relationship I honestly feel a bit bad for them both. She personally just makes me feel like she is flip flopping for media especially when people started pointing her out for being toxic to him. Because she was so happy to take his side at first but then starts verbally snapping back at him then leaving Will on his own for the fire. I just find it ironic.
Jada actually said she never wanted to marry him and cried at their wedding :(
@@_salemtovar_ bruh they just aren't healthy for each other
@@_salemtovar_ I‘d be interested in a video about Jada and misogynoir. Apparently, she‘s a sorceress and controls Will via ancient magic.
Will has hurt Jada just as much as she hurt him. They're both toxic.
@@_salemtovar_ Exactly Jada loved Tupac
The way everyone leapt to blame Jada for Will's actions was revolting.
“My man did an anime antagonist laugh” bahahahahah that killed me. Also as someone who laughs for all the emotions this makes so much more sense to me. I would be cackling as I walked up to slap Chris lmao
As a native woman my hair is very important to me and I was on a journey of self love to my hair but I had it cut off by my native dad and it was choppy of course so I cut it off more and more mentally ill and I was crying and having a break down because I knew guys were going to make fun of me at school for how short it was and I was right I did get made fun of so I went back home crying even more so upset that my mom bought me extensions hair is so much more deep and emotional and should be treated and respected as such
Haven't even watched the video but I'm so glad ur asking why this matters so much
We all have bad days and good days and haven't put ourselves far enough in someone's shoes until we realize we would make the same choices. In that moment he made that choice. That doesn't make him a "bad" person or anything like that. It seems like he had enough and maybe he has just heard to many people talking about his wife or something and was tired of it. I don't have all that information but it seems likely. At the end of the day none of us really know we will never know and we don't need to and that is ok and I hope they are all ok. Have a good night everyone. Love and light.
32:29 "When are we gonna learn that violence truly doesn't solve anything, but educated conversation, and letting people talk, and listening, and not immediately acting out irrationally"
While it's true that for most situations, violence is never the answer, violence is very intrinsic to revolution on a systemic level (the American Revolution, Bacon's Rebellion, the American Civil War, the Civil Rights Movement, the Stonewall Uprising, and more recently the Black Lives Matter Protests). Meaningful change of the status quo doesn't come about peacefully.
Am I saying Will Smith was correct in using violence in this situation? Absolutely not. There was no need for that in this scenario. My point is that violence sometimes _is_ the answer and shouldn't be entirely discredited. Of course, there's a time and a place for it; this situation was neither, and Will was wrong for acting rashly without thinking.
It is very rarely the answer. Only as a last resort.
People asking for Will Smith 's Oscar be taken away while Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, Casey Affleck and other keep theirs. I'm not saying that I support Will Smith actions because I don't I just wondering, why the double standard?
it’s honestly so ridiculous like it did not need to be dragged out so much (also happy belated birthday fellow march aries
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You know what, *subscribes* I’ve seen a few of your videos, and I love how gentle and happy your voice sounds when you are talking. I also really like how you talk about different topics from different perspectives, and how you are genuinely a nice person. 🥰💅🏼 love your videos, stay safe.
I was gonna comment on how chris has been making sexist jokes towards jada in other award shows and how racism is making it so much harder for will when it was not that serious but in terms of the information you had at the time of the video the only thing I def disagree is that they should have settled it after, in private.
The joke was made in public, as a disabled person myself, I don't think public "jokes" that are offensive should be handled privately at all. I know for a fact that for a lot of disabled folks it has been a bit cathartic to watch someone finally draw a line at the disrespect put on as a "joke". He could not have slapped chris, sure, but it sure needed to be handled in the same way the joke was, a public callout, at least.
it felt like the joke was punching down when he could have punched up
I think Chris deserved a little slap. I'd actually like a culture where we slap people who insult our wives and mothers and daughters. Just stop screaming profanities on live television like a maniac. If you wanna defend your wife, slap him and sit back down.
Jada doesn't have a disability. The joke wasn't funny, especially for a comedian of his level, but I don't think Chris meant for it to be cruel, but it still annoyed Jada therefore it matters. Will and Jada are public figures, she could have used her celebrity status to speak out about the joke and educate people on alopecia instead of resorting to getting her husband to assault Chris Rock.
@millana100 No one's saying Jada has a disability? Where did you pull that from?
The joke wasn’t funny. But it wasn’t bad
To all the people who say "oh, so we can't joke about anything now?"
No, you can joke about whatever tf you want.
If you want to be a jackass, you'll have to face the ✨ consequences ✨ of your offensive/insensitive/ungraceful words.
If those consequences will manifest as a slap on your face or as a mature talk, that'll be up to the person you've wronged.
Also, being fun without being offensive and extremely insensitive is possible, it just takes a little more brain juice.
Finally someone agreed with me
I feel like Chris shouldn't have made the joke And Will had no right to attack chris. Why are people acting like Chris is the victim in this situation?? (My opinion)
Because Chris was joking about everyone Will Smith was even laughing too but then he slapped Chris mind you. You should never put your hands on people they are grown men not 4 year olds
@@aimeehenderson142 But who gave him the right to joke about jada if he's so called "an man" Will was defending his wife in the worst possible way. But I'm not picking sides 2 wrongs don't make an right
@B Yea I know that's why I said chris isn't the victim.
@@yesha3306 Because words shouldn't lead to physical assault. That would be like saying a woman isn't a victim if she runs her mouth to a man. And that man proceeds to hit her.
@@kevinlee9929 wasn't physical assault it was an slap for acting like an ass.
Thank you for voicing your opinion! It is rare to see someone who is not afraid to speak up their mind and sharing unpopular opinions. I don't know what is worse: a prestigious ceremony having Chris Rock as a host with completely flat jokes, or the fact that every line the host speaks is usually in a script preapproved by a team of professionals. Not only Chris didn't have the intelligence and class to understand how this joke was tasteless, but those "professionals" working on the script finding it ok to pass on TV. Oscars has lost all the credibility and class.
so glad you're addressing this because although this whole situation is a meme its great to explain the situation
*my opinion:* the slap wasn't deserved, but the joke was dumb (if i were will i would just post a shady tweet or sum and call it a day). chris shouldn't press charges but will should get his oscar revoked*. he ruined the oscars for everone, including new actors who should have gotten the spotlight even if no one watched it
(also happy belated birthday!!)
*after listening to your take, i think will shouldnt get his oscar revoked, but it was still fair of him to apologize to the oscars
Chris Rock should sue Will Smith and The Oscars.
Will was banned from the Oscars for the next ten years or something.
@@kaylajaned6764 wait really
I wouldn’t be surprised if he didn’t know about her condition. She can be as open about it as she can but if no one bothers to look it up, no one’s gonna know. Probably 95% of people didn’t know she had alopecia until the aftermath of the slap.
I didn't know until that moment, but I also think that if you make a joke on someone you should know that someone enough to not touch delicate topics
but they know each other, more than we know jada, hell they done movies together
@@ciccicux I was gonna say the same. I mean if the person who you're about to make a joke on is sensitive/cares about that specific topic then you shouldn't make that joke. It's that simple because it wouldn't be funny anymore.
I mean I didn’t know but the Smiths and Chris Rock are really close and there have been news outlets documenting the story. I feel like even if a mild friend was going through something and they’ve publicly talked about it I would’ve known about it.
I like that we can all make hypotheticals in how we would react but like we weren't in that situation.
your outfit 😍🦆🦆🦆🦆
I swear that one hater you mentioned in one of your other videos must be blind, insane, or accidentally turned on the camera app and saw themselves. 💖🧡💛💚💙💜
Thank you for talking about this, I also want to add more context or more of a POV. It's the Smiths family's big night. He's up to win an award. His wife has been clowned on for years. Then again on a night that was supposed to be a victory, his wife is joked on again. I honestly know violence isn't the answer, but joking about them again was distasteful. Also to add to speculations Chris has been talking about Jada since 2016, Some even say it dates back further to 1997. Some also say that Will has warned Chris, but I don't know. I don't think Will deserves to get his Oscar taken away, and I think Celebs who have charges of assault on them(or ones with problematic backgrounds) shouldn't have a say on this matter. Also, other Celebs fought at the Oscars, and I never heard anyone saying they don't deserve their Oscars. Anyways I just hope everyone will move on.
What are you talking about thought it was public knowledge that she cheated on him with Jaidens friends. Very cross relationship, care taker+ age gap + person you trust.
@@briansupermega5692 As I said before it is speculation, but the things I was talking about had nothing to do with the entanglement situation. I am also so tired of hearing about that situation. It appears that folks always use that situation to invalid her feelings.I can't speak much on it though.
@@kiara515 that’s not what I’m doing. Just saying. Also don’t invalidate someone assault by implying hurting someone because if a joke is even slightly okay or understandable .
@@briansupermega5692 Never did I invalidate the victims of the assaults. I'm just saying that when it comes down to whether or not people make distasteful jokes at others expense, it should not be met with they deserve because of what I only know from the internet. That's why I also imply I can't speak on it because I don't know.
@@kiara515 when you said the joke is distasteful you were implying understanding for will smith mindset therefore sympathy for the assaulted.
I love how you leave bloopers in it’s so cute. You’re so endearing! 🥰🤍
In the most respectful way, both of them are in the wrong. Chris Rock shouldn’t of made jokes on someone else’s problems and what they’re going through. This also isn’t the first time that he made a joke about Jada. It wasn’t a funny joke. It was very insensitive. Also, yeah, you’re not supposed to disrespect someone else’s wife. You’re gonna get something coming at you. I’m not saying that violence is right but this should already be common sense. And Will Smith is in the wrong for obviously slapping Chris. He let his emotions take over him. And thats what went wrong. I personally can’t blame him because I would be furious, too if someone kept making jokes on my spouse but at the same time, I wouldn’t be hitting nobody, either. You have to pick your fist fights wisely and control your anger.
Don’t think it is true, everyone gets jokes made at their expense in these events it is the expectation if you don’t want someone to point at something in a joke that will trigger you then notify the person making the jokes. Don’t assume all bald or hair jokes are off limits because that’s to much.
With all due respect, it’s common courtesy not to make jokes like that at someone’s expense and someone shouldn’t have to notify you before ahead of time. People get called sensitive all the time these days but the truth is, is that the people that are actually calling others sensitive are calling them that because they want to say what they want to say without consequences. However, there always is and always will be. Even if we as a society don’t agree with the consequences being made, they still happened! We don’t agree with Will Smith slapping him, absolutely not. It could have been handled better! But, it still happened! And Even if it didn’t happen, something still would have happened sometime after, like, Maybe, if Will Smith had talked to Chris Rock after his act, and said “hey, this wasn’t cool”, or something else! But, this was not the case and we have to see both sides here. Neither side is in the right because neither side showed how to act right in this specific situation. But, Once again, in the most respectful way, I don’t agree with your statement. How was Will Smith supposed to know that he was going to make jokes like that? None of us knew. So, if we don’t know what’s going to happen, we can’t just go up to someone and go “don’t make these jokes about me because they trigger me” what??
your opinion of the situation is my favorite and well executed. HAPPY BELATED BIRTHDAY BEAUTY!!! I love Jada, Will and Chris.. In that eye roll moment, i cant unsee Fish from Gotham
i love how salem saves my day from boredom, literally everytime
I agree with your take at the end. Will should've tried to comfort and emotionally support jada who was hurt by the joke instead of beating Chris.
Salem, thank you for putting your spin on this topic. I agree with a lot of the points you made. I personally do not think Will Smith did anything wrong, but I understand why certain people were offended. At the end of the day, everyone needs to be mindful on what they say. Also, PLEASE MAKE THE AMY SCHUMER VIDEO👁👄👁‼️It’s about time we talk about her wrongdoings in a constructive way🦆
Putting your hands on someone is wrong.
@@briansupermega5692 My opinion though🤷🏾♂️
@@JulianSteve if your opinion is that initiating violence on to another person isn’t wrong, assaulting someone isn’t wrong then your opinion isn’t worth anything. Pls grow as a person and understand the pain that does.
Absolutely love that quote at the end of the video about partnership being a two-way street 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
It's hilarious how they're banning will smith for an incident I think he's in the right for, shouldn't have hit him but chris shouldn't have been making those jokes about his wife. So many other people have done worse, people nominated and given awards who have had sexual harassment/assault cases at the time, people being praised when they have had to be held back from assaulting others yet they get to stay in the Oscar's and have nominations. John Wayne and Sacheen Littlefeather is a perfect example, yet he was still praised and allowed in the Oscar's. Its fucked up and they know it
I saw someone say that it was because it didn’t happen at the Oscars but in a way that made it seem that the Oscars were in the right even though that’s exactly the problem! Because it didn’t happen at the Oscars they don’t care about it but as soon as it makes them look bad they care so much about it!
I get such a burst of serotonin when I hear your intro ❤❤❤😍
Can we just appreciate how good she looks in EVERY VIDEO!! Like fr your style is so good and your great at makeup. Also EARLY
i'll say, i do agree with your point about making "dark" jokes under the circumstances that it's happening to you, as you had mentioned. it remimds me of a quote i constantly come back to from alexandra erin on twitter, "sure. there's such thing as gallows humor. but are you the one on the gallows? if the person on the gallows makes a grim joke, that's gallows humor. if someone in the crowd makes a joke, that's part of the execution."
I legit burp all the damn time. My mom says I've been doing it since I was a toddler & that my youngest uncle who was like 18 at the time thought it was the best thing ever, & I went on to be his favorite niece lol. Some of us swallow air when we eat, drink, & even speak. 🤷🏽♀️
And I'm always telling people to be grateful it's not coming out the other end 😏
frrrr. also i got acid reflux smh i cant help it
It just upsets me because I know there were many other people who worked their a$$ off to be there and their light was taken from them and put on will and Chris
It is mortally wrong to punch people or hit someone even if you disagree with them the thing is some people over exaggerated this situation and act like Will killed Chris or smth and there was blood like no he just slapped him which is still wrong
No way Salem!!! Been watching you since over a year now and just found out we have the same birthday!!!! really really awesome, no wonder I've always vibed with you and we also share A LOT of traits together. Love you so much boo❤️ you'd definitely be my human if you were in my life.
about the "Jada provoking the slap by rolling her eyes" topic, i actually read that MAYBE, after will smith laughing at the joke and seeing that it didn't sit well on her, HE felt bad for laughing and it's the reason why he got up and slap Chris, bc in that moment Chris not only humiliated Jada, but also Will since he laughed at a joke made at Jada's expenses
That still doesn’t make it Jada’s fault. Will Smith is a grown man with his own brain.
@@lorrella8571 of course not!! will is the one that slap Chris and that's on him, but I found this could be a possible reason behind his reaction. Still, not Jada's fault AT ALL
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Pretty much agree with at least 95% of the stuff you said.
And man, did people only choose to see one side of this.
It's kind of a situation where everyone is kind of an asshole. The joke was in poor taste, but Will was wildly out of line and is a grown adult and made his own bad decisions. But Jada has also been proven to be a pretty gross person, especially in her marriage, and I feel like Will is not in a healthy mental place and she is a huge contributing factor in that. She did not make him go up there and didn't even ask him to, but her laughing after he assaulted someone on live tv shows that she doesn't care about Will either.
You actually went about this the right way and I respect that. Thank you.
Unpopular opinion: *Both* Chris and Will could have been asked to leave and someone else could have presented Will’s award to Jada and let her be the one to make a speech and have a moment in the spotlight on stage. Of course, this is more of an ideal than reality.
Happy belated 23rd birthday, Salem! I’ve really enjoyed your videos over the past year I’ve been watching 5em. You’re hilarious and I look forward to more amazing videos from your Chanel🥰.
Salem I love you 😂
Post on whatever damn schedule you want cuz I’m gonna watch it no matter how long it’s been since your last video
And two, you better keep belching loud and proud because we enjoy your authentic self 💕
I totally agree on a lot of stuff you have said. You must pretty please, with a cherry on top, make a podcast! I love your energy and conversations. I could literally listen to you all day every day. You should definitely think about it.🦆🦆🦆
Salem: Why does this even matter?
Salem: [drops a 45 minute video about it]
Hahaha 🫢 very funny
Salem, you really inspire me to do my makeup in a fun and creative way. Some of my favourite afternoons are the ones, when i put on one of your videos and i do my makeup while listening to your calming voice. 🦆
My take on it was both people were being shitty.
I could also understand why Smith was upset.
If Smith had of stuck to heckling/yelling he wouldn’t have been out of line because comedians are used to being heckled but slapping is not something that happens in a comedy club. The person would have been removed for assaulting the comedian.
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I loved this video so freakin much. I relate to Salem so much on this one, I thought barely anyone had the same opinion on the situation as I did. Both sides are wrong, and it's dumb of people to just blame one person (especially the victim of the joke). Such wise words, thank you so much ❤️❤️
As a Black woman, our hair is held to such a high degree and many of us are ridiculed if it doesn’t look “presentable” (examples: wearing your natural hair out & not having it done, leave out not fully blended, wearing braids past their expiration, and being bald). No one really understands what we go through as Black woman to maintain our hair. I hate how everyone chalked it up to Will being overly emotional & over-reacting, Chris being the victim, yet no one focused on how Jada felt. If you don’t understand the dynamics of a certain situation, I suggest people should just listen then speak (or don’t).
I know comedy isn’t supposed to have any real boundaries on who or what they can joke about but I’m tired of Black women being the butt of the joke and I refuse to allow it anymore. It’s been going on for way too long and the only thing that it invites is people of all races and genders to join on downing our image. I don’t care about what happened to Chris Rock because he, too has degraded Black women in the past. That is my BIASED opinion and I stand by that.✌🏾
Currently hanging out with Sonic,thanks for the advice :D
Him joking about her hairstyle compared to what another comedian would have mentioned (like her cheating) was like him saying that they're so "normal" that the only thing we can mention about them "for fun" is her hairstyle. Which makes her reaction not only disproportionate but also not in her favor.
Also i hollered at the "I pull a light yagami" cheers
Your smile is infectious at the beginning of this video!! And I'm turning 23 this year too congratulations!! We almost halfway to 50 🤣😭😩
Before I watch this my opinion is that the joke shouldn’t have been said the first place but also will smith completely over reacted, it was just a in the moment joke . Will didn’t need to make such a big deal out of it
Fair enough. I think that comedy shouldn't have limits. I saw a comedy segment from a guy about the similarities of Muslims and mosquito's. Yes it's very offensive but it was a lot funnier with the context. If we limit the jokes comedians can make for the fear of being assaulted, comedy will fall. Because a large part of it is dark, exposing the dark sides of reality. Chris made a joke that upset some people and then went on to continue. I think he was well within his right to make the joke and if it didn't stick with the audience then what can he do but move on.
Well in reality to make fun of a black woman's hair in front of a crowd of people is kind of a big deal , but in a way I do get what you're saying.
Personally as a black person, it's kind of satisfying to see someone actually get checked for making of jokes towards black women in general.
I do feel like the situation could have been handled better, but I find myself being thankful it got handed at all . (if you understand what I mean)
Just my two cents I guess idk
@@gh0.st_tears942 yeah I understand:) also ty for understanding my opinion, a lot of people just get all upset when someone’s opinion isn’t the same as theirs
So glad to see you back!! ❤️
You and my oldest son share the same birthday!! He just turned 12.