i bought 12 pairs a year and a half ago, and even with heavy playing in multiple different genres, im only just onto the last pair of the brick now, that including like 95% rimshots! :)
The tuning certainly went haywire. Compare the snare's pitch and sustain on the last couple of hits with the first couple of hits. That batter head endured some real smashing as well!
@@sahandrums totally! I still remember how I hurt my hands and heads when beginner-er. They itched, hurt and got blisters all the time, and heads would dent right away until I kinda fixed technique
Since you used two sticks, technically that's 5,000 rim shots. 😁 Also, I know it's all fun and games when you're trying to break sticks, but Chad Wackerman actually had a splinter fly into his eye during a gig with Allan Holdsworth at NAMM. The truly crazy thing is he finished the song.
I once went to a Bill Bruford drum clinic, and he talked about how he never breaks sticks ( at least at that point in his drumming career.) He explained the importance of calm and relaxed playing, and if your doing it right, there is no need to ever break a stick. His signature sticks are made of very soft wood.
The problem with higher moisture is that it makes them more likely to dry out and bend out of shape over time. It's not a big problem for places with normal-high humidity but here in Sweden were the air it's super dry during the winter, it becomes a problem if they are stored somewhere for a longer time.
Interesting ... I have experienced one of my Power 5B sticks warp and never understood it ... guess this was the phenomenon you are talking about! I will pay , at least for me, it's one out of about 15 sets of Vater drums sticks ... and back to durability, I still haven't broken one ... or even splintered one ... their sticks are believable tough! Thanks again for the info RE warpage ... cheers!
I think that patent pending rimshots counter needs an adjustment, when Dave started playing he did it with the right hand so the final rimshot must be with the left hand but it was with the right hand. He did 1999 o 2001 rimshots? xD Nice video guys! I really enjoyed it!
I needed this, I have been shredding drumsticks with rimshots lately. A good crack and it splits straight down the middle. I also love that you threw a mic on the snare.
Stick testing: *Exists* Actual challenge: sticks vs rim Rim: breaks instead of sticks Drumeo and vater: we know what we're going for. Rim's company: let's just change the topic.... [EDIT] lol it was drumeo instead
I started using the Vater extended play. They have a sleeve on the stick to protect them from rim shots. The location of the sleeve is a few inches down from where they were hitting. I tend to rim shot about 4 or 5" up from the bottom. That's about where the sleeve starts. They also have a coating above the sleeve that's supposed to keep them from splitting. Hard to say how much difference it makes. These sticks do last me longer though. I tried using Ahead sticks. The tips sometimes will unscrew or split off. If you don't stop right away, you'll be damaging your drumheads. I ruined a brand new head like that once. Even superglueing them was no guarantee they wouldn't come off when playing. Too bad; they feel nice but ruining heads made them too expensive. I've been using box tape to tape together splits in sticks for years. Recently started using wood glue when they split. Then I tape them to compress it while it dries. Stick breakage is a never ending battle....and an expensive one.
@@DrumeoOfficial I watched your punk beats tutorial way back '09 when the channel name was still not Drumeo. What can I say, I still suck at drumming 🤣 but getting better now
That's interesting. I bought Donati's Vater signatures recently just for the sake of seeing how they feel, and I've definitely felt that they are way more durable than other sticks I was using.
I'm glad that drum has cast hoops, Jared! If they were triple flanged they'd be quadruple flanged by now at least haha! I remember rimshotting my old Pearl Export hoop so many times it bent out of shape and i had to get a Mastercast hoop to replace it! Oops!
1st friend: My sticks just breaks every week, So i buy new ones every week. 2nd friend: i buy new ones every day. Me having drumeo-vater sticks from 2 years: You guys are having new sticks!? 🙂
OMG !!! My cheeks hurt from laughing so hard when Jared couldn't break the stick ! Hysterical guys. And how about the durability of the drum head that took the abuse !!! LMAO !
Hey! I'm Abhishek,man just the love video,it's like Jared and Dave are using Axes to chop wood in the end, you guys are💪 strong,especially Jared. Thank you! Drumeo for proving it! 👍
Before I knew a lot about drumsticks, I bought a pair of Sam Ash logo Vater 5B's at my local Sam Ash store and used them for everything. I don't break stick so these particular sticks lasted 2 years before the tips started to split a bit. I found out years later that Vater's process keeps the stick much stronger than the average maker due to the higher moisture content. I don't necessarily have a favorite brand of sticks, I've used mostly Vic Firth but a bunch of Promark and Vater sticks as well, but I find that each company has something about their sticks which makes them feel unique. I like all 3 of these brands a lot, and much more than any other brand I've tried, but I gotta say that Vater has it in the bag with their standard hickory stick durability, and the sticks have a very comfortable and balanced feeling which never look or feel warped. Great job getting 5000+ seriously heavy rimshots out of each stick!!
My first pair of Vaters felt like balsa wood and lasted one night, so good to see they are still around after all these years... they obviously figured things out! I had a pair of Vic Firth last like that last summer, I think alot of the break has to do with how the grain runs through the stick. Fun ending to a fun test guys!
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 Shout out to Tyson, Kyle, Dylan. Also A BIG Shoutout to Dave and Jared. This was Amazing! 😍😂 Vater and Drumeo are the best and this video just shows it!
Neither did I. Vaders were ok, kind of middle of the pack. Vic Firth have always been the most durable in my experience. Zildjians were the worst. I don't even know if they still make sticks.
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who misses so many rimshots and hits only the rim. The vibration feels so bad. Also, be glad you didn't end up with a splinter in your eye ;)
Seeing two fully grown men break down and desparetly trying to annihilate two drumsticks was astonishingly amusing and terrifying at the same time. Keep it up ^^
BEST. COMERCIAL. EVER. Seriously, I have never lauged at a video promoting a product AND wanting to buy said product afterwards. They seem sturdy 4 sho.
Lol Jared was SOOOOO OVER IT. As soon as he pushed the chair Overbrook, he crossed the point of no return haha. Hitting that drum every time: BREAK DAMMIT BREAK. HANDS AND KNEES LOL 😆 😂
I’ve been playing ahead drumsticks for over 20 years. The only wood drumstick I will touch really is a Vater drumstick. This video shows why in every absolute detail. I always mention to peeps even one who I teched for. These are the sticks to play......I’ve played every manufacturer. Ahead nail it for me.....but when wood sticks are needed. Vater. Every single time.....
LMAO, Dylan you had the most consistency in sound of the Drumeo rimshot challenge, Jared was the least consistent, thanks guys this was awesome, Vater drumsticks Rock don't they!!!
I've got sticks that are 60 years old and some, mostly the new expensive sticks break way to soon and some of those rip off expensive sticks break seems like instantly. These look like good ones. I'll try them.
Won't lie, I've had some sticks that have chipped easily and some that have lasted me ever since I started drumming close to 6-years ago. The thickness of the stick isn't everything, that's for sure. The one thing this test didn't account for is cymbals, since those will chip into your sticks over-time and especially if you hit them incorrectly. For those of you thinking of getting some Vater sticks after this video, know that they're great sticks, but that Vater is "specifically" known for having longer sticks--they're great for traditional grip or those who want a longer reach, but they will take a bit of getting used to no matter what.
if you repair your wooden sticks when they start splintering, then you can prolong their life by about 10X. so far i've used the same vic firth for the last 8 or 9 months. i'm not practicing consistently, but they would have broken 6 month ago if i hadn't kept repairing them with super glue and epoxy
How fast do you go through sticks?
I have about a pair per week, guess i deserve it for buying really cheap sticks off amazon
i bought 12 pairs a year and a half ago, and even with heavy playing in multiple different genres, im only just onto the last pair of the brick now, that including like 95% rimshots! :)
I used to have 5A sticks, but I kept breaking them within 2 weeks. I now use 2Bs and I don't have the same problem
I buy new stick’s if they‘re getting thinner on the Top so I can buy me a pair every month (5a Vic Firth)
I used pair of Rock sticks(not Vater, the other "V" Company), broke in 5 mins. After that, I'm holding stick so loose.
Everyone’s talking about the sticks but nobody’s talking about the poor snare drum taking the beating 😭
Yes lol, I feel bad for that rim
It was volunteer, or so im told.....
smallcows it was a masochist. It enjoyed the beating
No one is talking about that the test was made by the company and that it could be easily faked
he's okay, i think...
5:08 is when I realized that this isn't a video about breaking sticks, it's a recording of Jared's slow descent into madness.
Ain't nothing better than that 😅😂😂
5:12
Lars Ulrich recording St. Anger
2002-2003, colorized
Underrated comment lol
Haha snare drum go *DOWM*
When I read the title, I went "Ah yes, Bela Lugosi's dead"
Omg yaaa
I like how the snare de-tunes over time :D
Impressive stick durability!
Vater R&D Dept.: ”We developed a stick that never breaks”.
Vater Sales Dept.: ”What??? No!!!”
Right?!
The genius of this is: I am definitely going to buy a pair!
@@alexanderb5376 Just a joke, relax dude
Ruud Olsson LOL!!!! 🤣🤣🤣 I laughed so hard at this comment.
2 Grown men commit snare abuse. Battery
Duracell
Energizer
haha good one
Crushing all that cower?
No its acoustic you don't need to worry about batteries
When the drummer breaks before the drumstick...
6:00 When your drummer friend comes over for a spontaneous 6 over 5
Drumeo: How hard can I hit a stick until it breaks?
The Drumstick: "Where did I go wrong..."
Rajiv Rath What
Rajiv Rath ???
@Rajiv Rath You just tried to call yourself out before anybody else, didn't you?
what about the poor snare :(((
"Patent Pending Drumeo Rimshot Counter". Next challenge: Snare Abuse: How long can that batter head last?
I really thought the head was going to break before the sticks. Then I remembered these guys have good technique even if they are hitting hard as fuck
@@orti1283 Yes, the rebound is the best life extender for the snare, sticks, drum head and the drummer!
The tuning certainly went haywire. Compare the snare's pitch and sustain on the last couple of hits with the first couple of hits. That batter head endured some real smashing as well!
@@sahandrums totally! I still remember how I hurt my hands and heads when beginner-er. They itched, hurt and got blisters all the time, and heads would dent right away until I kinda fixed technique
I was more worried for the rim honestly
100 likes and imma do this with a pair of Vic Firth 5As!
Since you used two sticks, technically that's 5,000 rim shots. 😁 Also, I know it's all fun and games when you're trying to break sticks, but Chad Wackerman actually had a splinter fly into his eye during a gig with Allan Holdsworth at NAMM. The truly crazy thing is he finished the song.
Lol the ending was actually sick😂😂😂
Chopping wood!
Metal af!
It was hilarious lol.
The ending was actually s”t”ick
... I’m sorry
Never laughed so much in a Drumeo video. Great job guys!! 😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣 BREAK!!!
5:19 the chair was like: "no...don't do it please!"
Jared: "get the f*ck out of here chair, I'm gonna do this!" 😂
One of my favorite comments 😂😂😂
This is the comment I was looking for
Carpal Tunnel: "Wait, just a lil bit more, I'm almost there."
I once went to a Bill Bruford drum clinic, and he talked about how he never breaks sticks ( at least at that point in his drumming career.) He explained the importance of calm and relaxed playing, and if your doing it right, there is no need to ever break a stick. His signature sticks are made of very soft wood.
That bit at the end when David starts hitting it with Jared, literally makes an almost perfect 5 over 4 Polyrhythm 😂😂😂
We are perfectly out of sync.
Drumeo Truer words have never been spoken 😂
Wow we really saw a new side of Jarred at the end there...
I needed to go into therapy after this shoot.
@@DrumeoOfficial For me, drums were the therapy.
i know davie504 a therapist
Carbon fiber sticks: am i a joke to you?
Drumming Seb Vettel: Yes.
In the eleven years I've been watching videos from you guys, I have never seen Jared Falk loose his shit like this...
Every drummer has a bit of Keith Moon lurking about.
"The higher the moisture content, the stronger the stick."
> Hold on guys, by 2030 there will be sticks with 100% moisture content
The everlasting stick?
@@DrumeoOfficial Made of entirely water?
Would work for me. I go through sticks more than I change my underwear
Well, you can't "break" water technically, so, yea, 100% moisture would never break
Unbreakable but will fall appart and jiggly too i would like it
6:01 a true friendship, beating sticks until they're nothing
Friends who break sticks together, stay together.
@@DrumeoOfficial Aww was hoping you'd say "... stick together." 😂
The problem with higher moisture is that it makes them more likely to dry out and bend out of shape over time.
It's not a big problem for places with normal-high humidity but here in Sweden were the air it's super dry during the winter, it becomes a problem if they are stored somewhere for a longer time.
Interesting ... I have experienced one of my Power 5B sticks warp and never understood it ... guess this was the phenomenon you are talking about! I will pay , at least for me, it's one out of about 15 sets of Vater drums sticks ... and back to durability, I still haven't broken one ... or even splintered one ... their sticks are believable tough! Thanks again for the info RE warpage ... cheers!
6:25 most usa moment of all time
6:01 at this point they're trying to break the snare with the sticks
haha!
*david raouf walks in after* HERES 10000 TIPS AND TRICKS TO DO WITH THOSE STICK NOW
I think that patent pending rimshots counter needs an adjustment, when Dave started playing he did it with the right hand so the final rimshot must be with the left hand but it was with the right hand. He did 1999 o 2001 rimshots? xD
Nice video guys! I really enjoyed it!
Shouldn't they have one of the drumeo sticks in one hand and some other brand in the other, so we have something to compare it to?
I needed this, I have been shredding drumsticks with rimshots lately. A good crack and it splits straight down the middle.
I also love that you threw a mic on the snare.
Vater also has some sticks with rim shot protectors. They're called vater extended life sticks
This is the one production that actually annoyed other people in the office. 60 minutes of straight rimshots for everyone to listen to, haha!
Stick testing: *Exists*
Actual challenge: sticks vs rim
Rim: breaks instead of sticks
Drumeo and vater: we know what we're going for.
Rim's company: let's just change the topic....
[EDIT] lol it was drumeo instead
"When you try mining obsidian with a stick"
When u try mining obsidian using bedrock
I started using the Vater extended play. They have a sleeve on the stick to protect them from rim shots. The location of the sleeve is a few inches down from where they were hitting. I tend to rim shot about 4 or 5" up from the bottom. That's about where the sleeve starts.
They also have a coating above the sleeve that's supposed to keep them from splitting. Hard to say how much difference it makes.
These sticks do last me longer though.
I tried using Ahead sticks. The tips sometimes will unscrew or split off. If you don't stop right away, you'll be damaging your drumheads. I ruined a brand new head like that once. Even superglueing them was no guarantee they wouldn't come off when playing. Too bad; they feel nice but ruining heads made them too expensive.
I've been using box tape to tape together splits in sticks for years. Recently started using wood glue when they split. Then I tape them to compress it while it dries.
Stick breakage is a never ending battle....and an expensive one.
Jared is a OG he has Teached me a lot of useful lessons on drumming
Same, started watching him in 2015 and had really TAUGHT me how to play the drums properly.
I agree. He is OG ✌🏻
Awww shucks, I'm blushing.
@@DrumeoOfficial I watched your punk beats tutorial way back '09 when the channel name was still not Drumeo. What can I say, I still suck at drumming 🤣 but getting better now
jared: breaking drumsticks with rimshots
me: can see anger glaring in his eyes
this video was quite entertaining to watch
Seen lots on this channel but the attack of the stubborn stick is the funniest. Jared really lost it. lmao
The final minute or so was hilarious HAHAHA. Now that's how you promote an item.
I'm happy it worked out. I honestly had no idea how long the sticks would actually last.
That's interesting. I bought Donati's Vater signatures recently just for the sake of seeing how they feel, and I've definitely felt that they are way more durable than other sticks I was using.
The best part is how much the snare de tunes over the course of 10,000 hits and them two smacking the life out of the sticks
hahaha "THATS THE DEFINITION OF CHOPPING WOOD! WOOOOO!" Brilliant, you guys are class
These sticks are gonna break your snare before they actually break themselves! 🤣
6:01
That technique. Subscribed now for more lessons.
Am i the only one thats saying "IT ISNT 10,000 ITS 5,000 EACH"
Nope, not the only one.
Yup, and it’s annoying.
I love you
THATS STILL 10,000
Was literally about to say that before i saw this lol
Props to whoever edited this video! I can't even imagine the pain of listening to 60 minutes of rimshots.
4:56 *mr krabs has entered the chat*
When r u guys doing a drum set giveaway
ahahah A+
not that snare tho
What type of kit should we giveaway? How should we do it? Gimme some of those ideas, you never know :)
Drumeo gretsch Catalina jazz club , with a snare of your choice and custom cymbals ,
Drumeo from the fist 10 people to watch your next video choose a winner
5:57
Jared: my dad
Sticks: belt
Snare: me
This is exactly why I've used Vater sticks for years!
I'm glad that drum has cast hoops, Jared! If they were triple flanged they'd be quadruple flanged by now at least haha! I remember rimshotting my old Pearl Export hoop so many times it bent out of shape and i had to get a Mastercast hoop to replace it! Oops!
5:58
Thats the most badass thing I've seen today
I just watched jared slowly descend into madness
hahaha jared deciding to get off the chair killed me
1st friend: My sticks just breaks every week, So i buy new ones every week.
2nd friend: i buy new ones every day.
Me having drumeo-vater sticks from 2 years: You guys are having new sticks!?
🙂
that drumeo snare dumr looks nice
Was wondering what would be the next part after the 10,000hits were done, well pure madness. Really had a great time watching this.😂🤣😂
OMG !!! My cheeks hurt from laughing so hard when Jared couldn't break the stick ! Hysterical guys. And how about the durability of the drum head that took the abuse !!! LMAO !
5:46 STOP IT! He's already dead...
Hey! I'm Abhishek,man just the love video,it's like Jared and Dave are using Axes to chop wood in the end, you guys are💪 strong,especially Jared. Thank you! Drumeo for proving it! 👍
Before I knew a lot about drumsticks, I bought a pair of Sam Ash logo Vater 5B's at my local Sam Ash store and used them for everything. I don't break stick so these particular sticks lasted 2 years before the tips started to split a bit. I found out years later that Vater's process keeps the stick much stronger than the average maker due to the higher moisture content. I don't necessarily have a favorite brand of sticks, I've used mostly Vic Firth but a bunch of Promark and Vater sticks as well, but I find that each company has something about their sticks which makes them feel unique. I like all 3 of these brands a lot, and much more than any other brand I've tried, but I gotta say that Vater has it in the bag with their standard hickory stick durability, and the sticks have a very comfortable and balanced feeling which never look or feel warped. Great job getting 5000+ seriously heavy rimshots out of each stick!!
1:56 see ya drum sleeve 😂😂
6:01 - I love how Dave just comes in a annihilates the left stick almost immediately! #beast!
5:15 when your about to do a sick solo but miss 1 note
My first pair of Vaters felt like balsa wood and lasted one night, so good to see they are still around after all these years... they obviously figured things out! I had a pair of Vic Firth last like that last summer, I think alot of the break has to do with how the grain runs through the stick. Fun ending to a fun test guys!
i just watched 7 minutes of drummers going insane in quarantine
😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣
Shout out to Tyson, Kyle, Dylan.
Also A BIG Shoutout to Dave and Jared. This was Amazing! 😍😂
Vater and Drumeo are the best and this video just shows it!
Guess they have changed something then, like the wood or the realization tecnique... 'Cause some years ago I didn't find this brand that great :/
Neither did I. Vaders were ok, kind of middle of the pack. Vic Firth have always been the most durable in my experience. Zildjians were the worst. I don't even know if they still make sticks.
It's spelled Vater.
6:02 My parents to me when I forget to clean my room
😂😂😂
He literally beat the devil out of those drum sticks
I'm glad to see I'm not the only one who misses so many rimshots and hits only the rim. The vibration feels so bad.
Also, be glad you didn't end up with a splinter in your eye ;)
Damn Jarrod, that shit looked like it got personal. Lmao that was way more entertaining than I expected.
Seeing two fully grown men break down and desparetly trying to annihilate two drumsticks was astonishingly amusing and terrifying at the same time. Keep it up ^^
I was literally in tears at the end 😂😂
I cant believe sir Jared wouldve bursted jokes at the end HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
I haven’t used Vater in years...I guess it’s time to buy a pair!
HAHAHAHA THAT ENDING!!! Something's gotta be said for that Evan's snare head though! Took such a spanking!
5:41 - 5:45 The laugh of Insanity bordering on madness
LOL
And this, guys, is how you do merch for both drumsticks and drum heads brands at ONCE.
BEST. COMERCIAL. EVER.
Seriously, I have never lauged at a video promoting a product AND wanting to buy said product afterwards.
They seem sturdy 4 sho.
*After having a mental breakdown and finally breaking the unbreakable drumsticks*
"That's the definition of choppin' wood, WOO!" - Jared Falk
Dave' stand at the end: SHINEEEE
Lol Jared was SOOOOO OVER IT. As soon as he pushed the chair Overbrook, he crossed the point of no return haha. Hitting that drum every time: BREAK DAMMIT BREAK. HANDS AND KNEES LOL 😆 😂
I’ve been playing ahead drumsticks for over 20 years. The only wood drumstick I will touch really is a Vater drumstick. This video shows why in every absolute detail. I always mention to peeps even one who I teched for. These are the sticks to play......I’ve played every manufacturer. Ahead nail it for me.....but when wood sticks are needed. Vater. Every single time.....
5:10 ... the best way to release *anger*
LMAO, Dylan you had the most consistency in sound of the Drumeo rimshot challenge, Jared was the least consistent, thanks guys this was awesome, Vater drumsticks Rock don't they!!!
You guys started going full on Bonham at the end there 😂
Drumeo is the linus tech tips of drumming
Imagine the batter head broke and you had to replace it before the sticks broke lmao.
Jared didn't break the sticks, the sticks broke Jared!
In this video we exhibit how all it takes is durable drumsticks to break a man.
HA! Love this. Thanks for doing this!
Jeff: what did you do in quarantine?
Jared: snare abuse
I've got sticks that are 60 years old and some, mostly the new expensive sticks break way to soon and some of those rip off expensive sticks break seems like instantly. These look like good ones. I'll try them.
Oh the poor drum 🥁😂 almost thought Jared was going to break🤕 before the sticks would have 😆
You know there's a guy at Promark who's going to have to play rimshots all day until they find an even more durable design now
How to get wood chips in your eyes: a tutorial.
Sick sticks tho!
I like David's referring to himself as "the big guns."
Won't lie, I've had some sticks that have chipped easily and some that have lasted me ever since I started drumming close to 6-years ago. The thickness of the stick isn't everything, that's for sure. The one thing this test didn't account for is cymbals, since those will chip into your sticks over-time and especially if you hit them incorrectly. For those of you thinking of getting some Vater sticks after this video, know that they're great sticks, but that Vater is "specifically" known for having longer sticks--they're great for traditional grip or those who want a longer reach, but they will take a bit of getting used to no matter what.
if you repair your wooden sticks when they start splintering, then you can prolong their life by about 10X. so far i've used the same vic firth for the last 8 or 9 months. i'm not practicing consistently, but they would have broken 6 month ago if i hadn't kept repairing them with super glue and epoxy
Next video : How long should carbon fiber drumsticks last? (100,000,000 rimshot challenge)
SAFETY GLASSES, MAN!!! AHHH!!!!
Sweet vid though