17 Things You DIDN’T Know About the False Son

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  • 17 Things You DIDN’T Know About the False Son.
    The False Son is a pretty complicated survivor in Risk of Rain 2 (Seekers of the Storm DLC). Lots of unique mechanics and interesting little tips & tricks for him and his growth mechanic. Infinite damage due to his lunar spikes, scaling with HP items, Stone flux pauldron being great on him, Death mark for some reason being great on him, etc.
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  • @rndThursday
    @rndThursday  2 дня назад +38

    Any survivor that hates PSG is S Tier to me
    www.twitch.tv/rndthursday

  • @IcyFlame606
    @IcyFlame606 2 дня назад +283

    False Son's a chill guy, ya know? He really said "If you can't beat em, join em" and casually became a playable survivor after being defeated. W's to him fr

    • @hyperinvox9129
      @hyperinvox9129 2 дня назад +49

      to be fair we literally cured his schizophrenia

    • @ZacharypjgStudios
      @ZacharypjgStudios 2 дня назад +5

      You gotta first cure him with the halcyon seed

    • @terriblyterrified8742
      @terriblyterrified8742 14 часов назад +1

      "damn, didnt know you guys were chill like that" -false son joining the survivors

  • @HailtotheTeo
    @HailtotheTeo 2 дня назад +258

    I like all of these interesting item synergies that I usually would never use, makes false son even more in depth than I thought.

    • @rndThursday
      @rndThursday  2 дня назад +70

      one of the most unique survivors! kinda like how void fiend interacts with void items

    • @Banshein
      @Banshein 2 дня назад +3

      great pfp btw!

    • @Deamos8294
      @Deamos8294 День назад +1

      That is a sick pfp that I’m sure not a lot of people here know what it is

    • @Deamos8294
      @Deamos8294 День назад +1

      @@Bansheindid you hear the new album is coming out next month

    • @Banshein
      @Banshein День назад +1

      @@Deamos8294 yes! very excited for it

  • @lesliejacoby9137
    @lesliejacoby9137 2 дня назад +96

    Off topic but am I crazy to say Transcendence + warped echo and like 3 teddy bears is some of the best survivability in the game? It completely changes how the items work and I love it, feels like its not gotten notice with warped echo being bugged to say the least.

    • @rndThursday
      @rndThursday  2 дня назад +38

      warped echo making a comeback

    • @RiverWilliamson
      @RiverWilliamson 2 дня назад +20

      Echo is also really funny with Wungus. "Oh no, I'm damaged. Lemme run it off"

    • @abra_escaped
      @abra_escaped 2 дня назад +7

      Yeah, when I realized the first hit from echo didn't remove your "out of combat" state I was shocked, plus it synergizes really well with on damage taken items in general since it lets them proc twice off of one hit

    • @pbToast03
      @pbToast03 2 дня назад +6

      I also love that on Seeker/Kur-skan you can just use your shift to avoid the delayed half of the damage from Warped Echo

    • @lesliejacoby9137
      @lesliejacoby9137 2 дня назад

      @@rndThursday started at the bottom, now transcending to the top

  • @fidelcashflow4940
    @fidelcashflow4940 2 дня назад +30

    I will say I appreciate your open-minded approach to the game, I feel like a lot of creators just play the same all the time with no variance and you put into words why i think the False Son is cool, universally good items are all well and good, but when an item that might normally just be mediocre or even bad is actaully super synergestic and powerful with a particular survivors kit,THAT feels really good breaks up the monotony of "oh boy how many crit glasses and atgs can i get"

    • @jblack3830
      @jblack3830 14 часов назад

      Yes. I always think bison steak is meh when I get it, but with false son I would be pretty excited.

  • @Rosa_0000
    @Rosa_0000 2 дня назад +11

    False Son is a survivor that I wasn't expecting to become one of my favorites when I first played him. I absolutely adore his design and gameplay, and how he synergizes with some unusual items.
    In the future if Gearbox ever happens to polish him a little more, I will confidently say I have a new favorite survivor.

  • @legendaryfailure
    @legendaryfailure 2 дня назад +9

    thanks man, watching raydans grab 6 stone flux pauldrons and being confused as to why people say its good hurt to watch from the bottom of my heart
    so thank you for knowing that only 1 stone flux is needed

    • @rndThursday
      @rndThursday  2 дня назад +1

      my pleasure to spread the good word 🙏

  • @abra_escaped
    @abra_escaped 2 дня назад +18

    Luminous shot feels like it was made for this guy and his 4 base stock secondary that gets stocks easier than any other survivor

    • @pbToast03
      @pbToast03 2 дня назад +6

      Luminous shot is also super duper busted on Railgunner and Mul-T. Railgunner just spams in and out of scope, and with Mul-T, just tapping his right nailgun in Power Mode stacks the buff almost as fast as Railgunner (and as a bonus, if you keep holding the left nailgun it won't consume stacks immediately; it waits until you release and use it after having stacked Luminous Shot)

    • @Crazykidthree33
      @Crazykidthree33 8 часов назад +1

      I would like to tack on that Rex with the Self Damage Secondary skill is increibly good with Luminous Shot. You get a stack every .5 seconds.

  • @shadboi8927
    @shadboi8927 2 дня назад +33

    Thanks rndThursday, I didn't know nothing about this facts since I can't read the menu

  • @drxgqn
    @drxgqn 2 дня назад +8

    Something to note is that Lunar Spikes gained from growth start on cooldown, but backup mags don’t, which is why you can be super fast at the start of a stage

  • @Goobers_Gunk
    @Goobers_Gunk 2 дня назад +21

    you forgot the slam having a 3.0 proc coefficient.... (holding left and right click)

    • @peavuh
      @peavuh 2 дня назад +1

      but only the grounded one for some reason

  • @Scorchlette
    @Scorchlette 2 дня назад +6

    All I learned from this is that MUL-T is way tankier than I initially thought.

  • @bloodyone4866
    @bloodyone4866 2 дня назад +60

    as much as I criticized the DLC's game design I gotta say, adding a character that makes HP items relevant was pretty based, I just wish he didn't look so much like a mod character x|

    • @voidication
      @voidication 2 дня назад +1

      How does he look like a mod character?

    • @DamageMaximo
      @DamageMaximo 2 дня назад

      @@voidication play modded characters and find out

    • @chocoha4981
      @chocoha4981 2 дня назад

      @@voidication animations and skins and character model and just anything esthetic is just very bad to me

    • @shrunker684
      @shrunker684 2 дня назад +2

      ​@@voidicationhave you tried using his utility lol it looks pretty awful

  • @rigboy9748
    @rigboy9748 2 дня назад +6

    You also didn’t mention charging his laser and then transforming (volcanic egg, eccentric vase) allows you to fire his laser while in that form

    • @rndThursday
      @rndThursday  2 дня назад +10

      me when the vase is eccentric

  • @lmasternull889
    @lmasternull889 2 дня назад +8

    One thing i've never tried and still wonder about is if attack speed would increase the rate you fire the lunar spikes.

    • @abra_escaped
      @abra_escaped 2 дня назад +8

      It does, if you get a ton of them from stone pauldron or something you can even see the fire rate decrease in real time as you fire them lol

    • @rndThursday
      @rndThursday  2 дня назад +7

      yes cuz attack speed affects abilities!

  • @icetide9411
    @icetide9411 18 часов назад +1

    When I discovered that Spinel Tonic interacted with Growth, it was INSANE. Easily one of the most fun runs I've ever had.

  • @eldritchschizo9358
    @eldritchschizo9358 2 дня назад +1

    10:11 On that note, idk if it works differently on PC, but Luminous Shot will activate off of MUL-T’s secondary attack while in Power Mode!
    Nail gun will only proc off initial trigger pull, but rebar will proc it every shot! Idk how the other two work but it’s a really cool and fun combo!!

  • @AeveanLeeow
    @AeveanLeeow 2 дня назад +4

    Theres also a bug where attack speed is retained on the laser ticks even through runs lol. Tested with debugtoolkit with tritips to count ticks and syringe stacks.
    48 ticks at base. 241 ticks after adding a ton of syringe. Exit to menu and load a new run, still 241.
    Even if you play a fresh run this means temporary attack speed buffs like berserkers pauldron and predatory and tonic are much stronger than usual.

  • @badwithusernames3238
    @badwithusernames3238 2 дня назад +1

    the lunar ruin counting as 2 debuffs also happened with collapse when sotv released, both are actually 2 seperate debuffs for the different components with one of them just being invisible.
    5:25 also yeah, thats how level scaling works. every level your max health increases by 0.3 times the base value and all other stats that scale with level increase by 0.2 times the base value each level
    5:45 no, that is NOT what it does, it stores xp seperately from your own level and the xp requirement for a level always starts at level 1 for the item. it effectively allows you to level up from level 1 again for only 20% of the stats

  • @PROGAMING24-pe2ye
    @PROGAMING24-pe2ye 14 часов назад +1

    False son is my new fav survivor :) Also it is weird to think that Bison steak is actually better than backup mags on him :/

  • @raysooth2642
    @raysooth2642 2 дня назад +3

    The only thing cammando Can kil 1:33

  • @Hectorlph
    @Hectorlph День назад

    I've been enjoying how Seeker and False Sun use a lot of otherwise "dead" items. People say the new DLC items are bad, but they probably just build the same proc builds over and over...

  • @dyes6192
    @dyes6192 2 дня назад

    I’ve learned a thing with the false son which lets you use his laser for the entire duration, all you have to do is just charge it, let go of the button, then hold the button and it lets you use his laser for the entire duration.

  • @s-gamer2705
    @s-gamer2705 2 дня назад +2

    Despite i already know about that, i appreciate your efforts for sharing it with more people. False Son is honestly really fun to use, and instantly become my most used by game's info. His animations are the only downside for me.

  • @AlvaroNub
    @AlvaroNub 2 дня назад

    Hella insane how rndThursday is lowkey saving Risk of Rain 2 and Gearbox from being cancelled by putting themselves on the other side of the spectrum when talking about the state of the game.

  • @quazzz5086
    @quazzz5086 2 дня назад +2

    you should do an updated mod recommendation video for the new dlc

  • @jaymz9292
    @jaymz9292 2 дня назад

    I’ve tested the piercing shot. On a slope down, aiming slightly up, it can pierce but it’s very wonky. It misses a lot of enemies but still kills a couple

  • @sp00n94
    @sp00n94 2 дня назад +1

    We missed you rnd

  • @hubblebubble1550
    @hubblebubble1550 День назад

    half-tech for his ooga booga groundslam: if you get some height and then activate it, you’ll do increased damage in a wider radius, and if you get high enough you’ll still have a bounce at the end. Even though gearbox removed charging up the ground slam infinitely, those other affects are built into the attack

    • @hubblebubble1550
      @hubblebubble1550 День назад

      on the topic of is charged m1: with lots and lots of attack speed, the grounder pounder wont connect with enemies or the ground, and not do damage. I’d guess the attack is resetting before it finishes the smacking part of its previous sledgehammer special. However, a jumping charged m1 still hits like normal so its whatever

    • @hubblebubble1550
      @hubblebubble1550 День назад

      and not really a secret tech at all but something to watch out for when using luminous shot with false son (which is kinda nice tbh): Charging up his m1 sometimes does a small regular attack right before he starts his charge, which can consume the luminous shot stacks prematurely. Sometimes it’s wort it to turn around to charge up and then 180 smash to get the big damages

    • @hubblebubble1550
      @hubblebubble1550 День назад

      and it doesn’t matter but the buff from step of the brothers is probably from the ramping explosion effect of the dash. Fun fact ig

  • @ar.71944
    @ar.71944 День назад

    I really love how they made bison steak and infusion actually good with false son. But I would've preferred a buff

  • @Luke-888
    @Luke-888 День назад

    the fact that he was made in the same patch as chef is crazy

  • @Daniel-ot7ce
    @Daniel-ot7ce День назад

    Now he is my second most loved survivor
    Acrid still my beloved

  • @christo3247
    @christo3247 2 дня назад

    Hey rnd, I just wanted to drop by and say how absolutely blown away I am by your outstanding video editing skills! Every transition, effect, and creative touch you add makes your videos not just content but true works of art. It's clear that you pour immense passion and effort into every upload, and it really elevates the viewing experience. Your consistency in bringing us high-quality content is something I genuinely appreciate-it’s become a highlight I look forward to regularly!
    As a commando main, sometimes it's hard for me to put into words just how much I enjoy your videos. So, I had ChatGPT help me out in expressing my appreciation. Keep up the phenomenal work, and I can't wait to see what you have in store next..
    ps. YEEEE RND

  • @avi8aviate
    @avi8aviate 2 дня назад

    Honestly, I prefer the Seeker over the False Son. Her healing from her M2 is very strong, and her alt M2 synergizes very well with Sojourn. Not only that, but Sojourn also synergizes very well with both Razorwire and Repulsion Armor Plates.

  • @grantplunkett8410
    @grantplunkett8410 День назад

    Thanks for the 14 tips!

  • @Zanodia
    @Zanodia День назад

    Stoneflux + soletude + brital crown. Infinite money and infinite levels which means infinite growth.

  • @ikeadump3265
    @ikeadump3265 День назад

    i was extremely surprised when i first played false son because of how much fun i was having …. i honestly think he’s my favorite of all survivors just because of how fun it is to slam things
    P.S. if you didn’t know, slamming from height ignores fall damage :)

  • @Collektor1
    @Collektor1 День назад

    I got to eclipse 7 without knowing you can charge his laser, goes to show how broken this character is

  • @betavo3293
    @betavo3293 День назад +1

    10:08 how the fuck is Antler shield underrated? This shit only deals minimal damage if you get hit

  • @kylebudhai4602
    @kylebudhai4602 2 дня назад

    Love the fact video, I hope to see more of them or something similar in the future

  • @pbToast03
    @pbToast03 2 дня назад

    I could've sworn Mul-T's Rebar Puncher has another instance of 'piercing' without being highlighted. In the event that I'm remembering correctly Laser Burst is most likely just some keyword inconsistencies

    • @antehman2912
      @antehman2912 2 дня назад

      rebar puncher is also fake piercing it like bounces weirdly off enemies

  • @typhoon4994
    @typhoon4994 2 дня назад

    False son has actually become my favorite survivor

  • @stanman3192
    @stanman3192 День назад

    Chef and false son are oddly inversed. False son has a lot if depth for item synergies and tech compared to most survivors and is super strong but has really crappy and janky animations. Chef hiwever aesthetically looks pretty great but his kit is extremely meddling in synergies, combo potential, and tes chef is just 100% worthless.

  • @BryceAdvice
    @BryceAdvice 2 дня назад

    Awww man I have to wait another day or something I guess... Dangit!

  • @zackmcsavage4966
    @zackmcsavage4966 2 дня назад

    i could be wrong but i was sure that his laser duration stacked with health even from leveling up

  • @Leo-kz2bb
    @Leo-kz2bb 2 дня назад

    You can also get a curse from shrine of shaping

  • @DeathRavenDFclips
    @DeathRavenDFclips День назад

    Fanally a use for prayer beads.

  • @drpineapple498
    @drpineapple498 2 дня назад

    Always like characters that make lesser used items good

  • @Hacivat-i6r
    @Hacivat-i6r 2 дня назад

    the most important tip: download false son m2 tweaks mod

  • @asdfsupermariosunshi
    @asdfsupermariosunshi 2 дня назад

    I would love to actually know how the Seed of Life equipment works! A perfect video as always, really entertaining

    • @avi8aviate
      @avi8aviate 2 дня назад

      After use, whether by saving yourself from death or reviving fallen allies, the consumed version can be planted in the ground to spawn healing orbs with a short cooldown.

    • @asdfsupermariosunshi
      @asdfsupermariosunshi 2 дня назад

      @@avi8aviate But how though? I haven’t been able to activate it in a single run

    • @whbh2243
      @whbh2243 2 дня назад +2

      @@asdfsupermariosunshi it auto uses if you die, and if you use it while a teammate is dead it will revive them

    • @spiderjerusalem8505
      @spiderjerusalem8505 2 дня назад

      ​@@avi8aviate, it's pretty neat that they made equipment have some small usage instead of making it do nothing after proccing. Still, only 1 equipment is so little...

    • @avi8aviate
      @avi8aviate 2 дня назад

      @@asdfsupermariosunshi Die with it equipped or activate it to revive allies. You might have to be near an ally though; I don't know for sure since I haven't played multiplayer since the update.

  • @arxidiax2arxidiax276
    @arxidiax2arxidiax276 2 дня назад

    Now if only I could actually get him, can barely beat the boss as is. Had 10 stacks of tougher times and got OBLITERATED by the laser without any of them procing ):

  • @sos3365
    @sos3365 День назад

    W video but 17 is such a weird number to me idk why

  • @DougStuff99
    @DougStuff99 2 дня назад

    tfw the playable version of the boss is actually still good

  • @fuzzypenguinx2858
    @fuzzypenguinx2858 2 дня назад +1

    what if the false son was the true son and i(the player) was his dad

  • @biggreen8025
    @biggreen8025 2 дня назад

    False son is the best survivor in the game tbh, and by that i mean how powerfull he is bc if u look at his animations he is the WORST survivor in the game

  • @Oguh608
    @Oguh608 2 дня назад

    I like False Son as a character but the difference in quality between him and the other survivors is too egregious so I won't be personally playing him until they finish him.

  • @bryce1448
    @bryce1448 2 дня назад

    The laser that doesn't pierce also can't crit

  • @proboscismonkey7007
    @proboscismonkey7007 2 дня назад +11

    I knew all these things...

  • @deltaace861
    @deltaace861 2 дня назад +1

    False SwawS

  • @Balagnugnes
    @Balagnugnes 2 дня назад

    I might be tripping but i grabbed a hardlight afterburner and it gave me more lunar spikes
    If what i saw is actually what happened then growth might be dependent on general stat growth
    Im gonna go test then and i'll update this comment once ive tested this

  • @welkijken
    @welkijken 2 дня назад

    This almost made me rebuy the dlc

  • @varietynic17
    @varietynic17 2 дня назад

    thanks dad for the education, by the way how was your trip to palm beach?

  • @chairwood
    @chairwood 2 дня назад

    i don't know anything about the false son because i don't have the dlc yet

  • @sgtdoug5225
    @sgtdoug5225 День назад +1

    It may be in the comments already but what mod pack are you using to see the stats like that?

  • @fabclippers2632
    @fabclippers2632 2 дня назад

    I know about all the bugs and thats all.

  • @k90v85
    @k90v85 2 дня назад

    5:00 aint that the old wiki?,

  • @slobbylobby
    @slobbylobby День назад

    what mod do you use to show your stats on the right? i thought betterUI was taken down

  • @khilro9525
    @khilro9525 15 часов назад

    Doesn't Acrid also not spawn from a drop pod though?

  • @yourdemiseishere
    @yourdemiseishere 2 дня назад

    We dont know because we just play paladin instead.

  • @CarmenLC
    @CarmenLC 2 дня назад

    does chef count as melee…

  • @noodleman2560
    @noodleman2560 2 дня назад +1

    I knew all these

  • @Jaxsol
    @Jaxsol 2 дня назад

    Why does blud pronounce wiki as "weekee"

  • @blazingbolt_2
    @blazingbolt_2 20 часов назад

    What stat mod is that

  • @sergiovargas-v6z
    @sergiovargas-v6z 49 минут назад

    Young Eric Robinson Patricia Rodriguez Anna

  • @bucko3k.746
    @bucko3k.746 2 дня назад

    Idk if someone else has already said this, but if you charge his beam and then hold the key again afterwards, it'll keep the beam going until its timer resets. So if you have bandolier and pick one of its drops up then itll end the beam but other words at the start of a run this can be helpful.

    • @azchhn
      @azchhn 2 дня назад

      Didnt they fix it in the first patch and introduced slam hover bug which was also fixed?

    • @Tatercon
      @Tatercon 2 дня назад +2

      Both were fixed yeah

  • @DeSilly
    @DeSilly 2 дня назад

    HI MR THURSDAY!!!!!!!!!!!

    • @rndThursday
      @rndThursday  2 дня назад +1

      hey silly

    • @blooga
      @blooga 2 дня назад +1

      HI DE

    • @blooga
      @blooga 2 дня назад +1

      HI DE

    • @DeSilly
      @DeSilly День назад

      ​@@bloogaHI GOOGA HI GOOGA

  • @y0shii154
    @y0shii154 2 дня назад

    Having more growth is nice and all but that cooldown to get all the spikes back is so slow

  • @DragonUH
    @DragonUH 2 дня назад

    unlucky

  • @spacenumber1149
    @spacenumber1149 2 дня назад

    should I get the DLC

    • @rndThursday
      @rndThursday  2 дня назад

      pc: yes
      console: idk, maybe

    • @spacenumber1149
      @spacenumber1149 2 дня назад

      @@rndThursday thank RISKOFRAINMAN

    • @k90v85
      @k90v85 2 дня назад

      ​@@rndThursdayps4 been fixed

  • @HypeBoyNic
    @HypeBoyNic 2 дня назад

    Based