@danklotrmemes Heya! Do you think you can re-upload the Two Towers version? I see that the video(s) isn't available anymore 😞 Or maybe it can be uploaded directly onto Internet Archive or something? 🙏
Farrel A Yeah, back in the 1930’s and 40’s when Tolkien was writing the books, golden showers meant golden showers. Since then, it has come to mean the sexual fetish of being pissed on. Golden yellow showers of pee....... So naturally, they changed it from golden to silver, to remove the sexual connotation.
This video really emphasizes how Sean Bean should have gotten an Oscar nomination alongside Ian McKellan. Both of them get the lion's share of Tolkien's dialogue and they knock it out of the park.
I agree to the fullest. These movies had a passion and atmosphere that I have not seen many others achieve yet. One can clearly tell when a movie is made for the sales or out of pure love to the original material or vision.
100%. Book purists just don't seem to realize the fundamental differences between literature and film as mediums of storytelling. They had the very difficult job of adapting the books in a way that would be true to the original vision, while having the pacing and spectacle of a feature film. The best book to movie adaptations of all time in my honest opinion.
Agreed. A good movie is not the same thing as a good book. What made The Lord of the Rings a great book series is entirely different to what makes a good movie series. The fact that they were able to meet in the middle in the best ways possible, as much as possible, is truly what makes the LotR movies some of the best movies ever made.
@@samwilson3761 Yeah but at the same time it sucks that they did so with changes to characters that make them look foolish, bumbling, or outright assholes when they weren't. Now millions of people think several actually great characters suck and they are to lazy (or not interested enough) to read the books and learn different.
I honestly love the changes in the placing of Gandalfs Death and Judgement lines. Its placed in the first first section of the books even before Frodo leaves the shire, which to me always felt a little odd. Having it during the Entranceway of Khazard-Dum while Gollum is trailing them was nothing short of perfection. Taking something exactly from thr book and making it more of a keystone moment in thr film
“Fly, you fools!” This has to be one of the most potent utterances in the whole LOTR. Not “flee” or “run” but “fly”, you need to get out of here so fast that you’re feet won’t touch the ground. And why “you fools”? Well, Gandalf needed to shock them into movement. “fly my friends” would have strengthened their emotional bond to Gandalf and so not necessarily put them in motion. Saying “You fools!” is meant to underline how hopeless the situation has become, and to shock them a little. Also Tolkien’s literary talents show through in the alliterative combination of Fly and fools. When I watched the scene in the movie, even though I have read the books upwards of 60 times, I still choked up to actually see Gandalf being dragged into the chasm with the Balrog. Powerful stuff indeed.
Also there’s that element of “you fools” just being Gandalf’s personality. As Frodo put it, “I don’t miss Gandalf’s fireworks, but his bushy eyebrows, and his quick temper, and his voice.”
Still one of the most potent memories of watching the movies as a kid (am a youngster, grew up with the movies). I remember little me crying my heart out, thinking we'd never see Gandalf again!
@@supershinigami1 Perhaps you’re right about the over-analysis. But speaking as someone who has read LOTR more than 60 times over the last 50 years, I can say that Tolkien really polished certain key sentences. The language in the last third of LOTR is masterfully crafted to exclude almost all Latin based words and many phrases are little condensed droplets of language that just shine! “save in some great need” is an example of that. Not “except in an emergency”. Who, apart from Tolkien would use “save” as a conjunction? To be “in need” is much more emotional than “emergency” and “in great need” pushes that emotion even further. “save in some” is Tolkien’s love for alliteration, and automatically makes the reader wonder what the problem might be, because Gandalf is riding hard into danger and we know that the whole world is in trouble, but we don’t yet know the extent of the problem. Now, I am 100% sure that you will say that I am over-analysing Tolkien, but I have only scratched the surface!
@@martinstent5339 You know what? I'm glad you're such a big fan but I bet you're one of those people who detest other fantasy books and think their authors copied from Tolkien because you noticed one of the smallest similarities between the two. Dude, I bet you also missed out on a lot of other great books even from other genres.
Lord of the Rings is probably the best book to screen adaptation I've seen thus far. I've this habit of reading the books before seeing the movies. I was a huge Percy Jackson and Artemis Fowl fan, and to see the books so bastardized on the screen, it hurt. Then I decided to pick up the LOTR book trilogy in quarantine, and I loved the books. When I watched the films, it was so refreshing as change. You didn't just make a good movie, but also a real treat for people who've read the books. Refrencing lines and the names of chapters at certain parts, keeping the themes consistent, keeping (even improving) some of the character's personalities, its amazing. Great movies, great adaptations. Also I haven't seen the Hobbit movies so cant really judge them (._.)
Don't bother. The Hobbit is a fine book, judged on its own terms as a whimsical children's tale. An animated single-movie adaptation could potentially be good - in fact, one exists, and I hear it was done well. Unfortunately, the Peter Jackson films were a soulless cash grab (from what I hear, the studios should maybe take more of the blame than Jackson). A few parts were done well, but there's nowhere near enough material to stretch into a trilogy, so there's a ton of padding. And the movies kept switching between a cartoonish tone, as if for a kids' movie, and the darker tone of LOTR
People like to hate on Hobbit trilogy far more than it deserves. It is many things, but not soulless. Watch them, and make your own opinion. Don't let others force their subjective view on you.
The scenes where Boromir talks to Frodo... Jumping bits of it felt like someone had paused my favourite song without a warning, just before the best part. XD Or that weird feeling when you think you're still walking up stairs but you already reached the top and your foot sinks through that stair you expected to step on. Sean Bean is such an amazing actor, he does so well there. All the steps from faked friendliness to aggressive madness, then deep shame when he realises, the despair, how he pulls himself up... they are all perfectly seamless, they feel so real.
Me: * confused * how come I don't remember this part? * realises I haven't seen the extended additions * * immediately goes online to see where I can buy the extended additions *
Hope you got your hands on the extended editions by now !! Some of the best scenes are in there! Mouth of Sauron, extra scene with the Palantir, last scene with Saruman... tried to name them without any spoilers :)
No, in the book Gandalf only says "You cannot pass" once and proceeds to break the bridge in the same way we see in the movie. He doesn't say you shall not pass. It was a great addition though.
@@Jeremy-Bones It was actually not added intentonally. McKellen just got the line wrong, and said "You shall not pass" instead. ruclips.net/video/Cjn6uwHryes/видео.html for reference.
I wish there had been a scene for when Galadriel explained the depths of the Rings power to Frodo. Learning that if Frodo tried to tap into its true power that would annialate him was chilling.
at no point in the books is the ring clearly defined in terms of power- but in the book Frodo asks why he cannot read her thoughts even though she can read his- she says you would need to train your will to do so and warns him not to since the ring would devour him (or something along those lines. The exact power of the ring is kept vague but has a few hints
As a swede I always giigle at "Fool of a Took". In swedish "Tok/Tokig" is to be crazy/ridiculous. And fool is "dåre" which means something similair. And the translation of "Fool of a Took" is "Tokdåre" which is an expression of someone like Pippin. :D
The scene with Frodo alone with Boromir was shot without doubles or forced perspective rigging, just Sean Bean and Elijah Wood. Because they set up the scene so effectively using camera angles alone (and the entire rest of the film), you don't doubt for a second that Boromir is way bigger than Frodo.
Whenever Legolas says "A Balrog of Morgoth", my brain automatically fills in "what did you say?" I think I've watched They're Taking the Hobbits to Isengard way too many times
I seem to recall that Merry suggested that it could be a simple riddle, which helped Gandalf to figure out the solution. So it was both of them. It's been years since I read it though.
_Ennyn Durin Aran Moria. Pedo Mellon a Minno. Im Narvi hain echant. Celebrimbor o Eregion teithant i thiw hin._ The Doors of Durin, Lord of Moria. Speak, friend, and enter. I, Narvi, made them. Celebrimbor of Hollin drew these signs.
If I recall correctly (it's been a while since I read the book last), there's the better part of a full chapter describing a running battle between the Fellowship and the goblins of Moria, but I don't recall a cave troll, nor do they specifically mention that broken staircase. But this is adaptation done correctly, which means that they read the original, understood not only the text but the tone and the imagery, and thought through what that might look like on screen for purposes of variety and pacing. And the broken staircase seems like a good way to add a challenge for the Fellowship that wasn't just another horrible monster, but something new they had to deal with quickly. And then there's the question I've always wondered about: How did the balrog cross the gap left by the stairs collapsing?
@@thexalon Well, the Balrog has wings... don't know how effective wings made of smoke and brimstone could be for flying, but eh, I try not to question physics when there's a 10 metre tall demon involved.
If I remember correctly, the crumbling stairs weren't in the books, but that seen was inspired by a drawing of either Alan Lee or John Howe of how the stairs could look, and in that drawing there were those cracks in the stairs and then they got the idea of the stairs sequence.
@@thexalon There was a troll. The door right before a staircase broke because of Gandalf and the Balrog's opposing spells, but nothing about the stairs…also nothing to suggest that they weren't fully enclosed in the rock, unlike the bridge area. And it leaped over a giant fissure in the floor, so…
Fun fact: Ian once said on a BBC Talk Show that he was meant to say "You Cannot Pass" according to the book but he accidentally said YOU SHALL NOT PASS instead
I love how the most meaningful and deep lines but also the most amusing were from the book. That's how u do an adaptation right. Lmfao tho i wonder why they changed golden showers 😂😂
I’ll never understand why Tolkien left the events of the first chapter of The Two Towers for the second book: the fate of Boromir felt like a better way to end the first book than what seemed like an unfinished plot point (the split of the Fellowship). ps.: the edition of The Two Towers that I read actually had a preface by another author that spoiled what would happen to Boromir in the first chapter that I was about to read. 🤦♂️
That preface is a shame. Maybe there was a purpose behind “The Depature of Boromir.” It is a little ambiguous title unless you have read the book or watched the films. I suppose his death was meant to be a reveal. (And this is coming from a guy who knew Boromir is killed due to the books and films.)
@@Ashalmawia Agreed. When I first read the book she comes across mysterious, menacing and you are not entirely sure she is a "good" character. Jackson and company rendered this very well.
Nice work, but you should remove the channel logo from the bottom right of the screen, or move it to the left, if you can. I canneh see the words from the book.
@@whs1pmjazz No, but usually they have the liberty to choose how to deliver the lines. That includes changing a few words, or the structure of the sentence. Its then up to the Director to judge if the scene got better or worse for it.
@@franciscopetrucci It's thanks to Sir Ian McKellen's acting style, he described it in a masterclass he once made. He reads each of his lines about a hundred times, chewing on them, dedicating thought to every single syllable and how to deliver them with perfect cadence and rhythm. At that point, he knows all the lines by heart, and words them in the manner most natural to him.
That's because he forgot to tell them where they could find the eagles and the rest of the movie would have been them searching for the eagles. That would have been too boring.
You missed "YOOUUUU CANNOT PASSSS!" Which, given the number of book lines that were almost but not quite there that you have mentioned, is a surprising oversight.
'You cannot pass' is at 2:36. In the book, he doesn't repeat the line at the end. It only says 'and crying aloud he smote the bridge with his staff'. Jackson interpreted 'crying aloud' as a second 'You cannot pass' which McKellen turned into 'you shall not pass'
@edelweiss88 I figured that last one is either the last "You cannot pass" from his first round of them ("Go back to the shadow! You cannot pass.") or the one a bit later after he breaks the Balrog's sword ("The wizard swayed on the bridge, stepped back a pace, and then again stood still. 'You cannot pass!' he said.") Either way there's actually one missing in the film.
It goes to show some of the more cringy lines are taken from the book which should be no surprise. I mean, Galadriel imagining herself as an almighty queen and coming across as VERY villainess like in Fellowship would be absolutely nonsensical and out of place if Tolkien hadn't written it. By the way, for those who haven't read it, the book does have a lot of cool extra story beats that Jackson didn't film but it is UNBELIEVABLY DRY. Especially the beginning of Fellowship; the drama and suspense are halted every 3 pages by, "and then Frodo felt a little tired so the hobbits ate a ton of food, drank a ton of beer and fell asleep for 12 hours."
It's a shame they don't make book edits like driv anymore. today, when you make a book adaptation, the authors fill it with a bunch of minorities who have no business there, and instead of filming what is in the book, they put their nonsense in the book, and the screenwriters think that it will be much better, but it's always the other way around
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@danklotrmemes Heya! Do you think you can re-upload the Two Towers version? I see that the video(s) isn't available anymore 😞 Or maybe it can be uploaded directly onto Internet Archive or something? 🙏
Yes, could you PLEASE re-upload the Two Towers version?
@@erikkollar66 I wish I knew how to properly "@" the uploader to get their attention ☹️
I giggled when I realized they changed "golden showers" to "silver showers"
Is there a reason to it?
@@Fae-Fey "golden shower" is a commonly used phrase for being urinated on.
@@Fae-Fey Go google "golden shower"
Farrel A Yeah, back in the 1930’s and 40’s when Tolkien was writing the books, golden showers meant golden showers. Since then, it has come to mean the sexual fetish of being pissed on. Golden yellow showers of pee....... So naturally, they changed it from golden to silver, to remove the sexual connotation.
@@JesusFriedChrist What's wrong with people?
"The dwarf breathes so loud we could shoot him in the dark"
Most elegant trash-talk since Shakespeare
I love all the hate for Pippin from Gandalf was in the book.
*Fool of a Took!*
I used to have a T-shirt that said “Fool of a Took” when I was like eight
Fun fact: my parents would have named me Peregrine if I was a girl. So I would have been Pippin.
@@t.c.bramblett617 You could have a sex change and become Peregrin Took
@Nathan Martinez I assume you never saw game of thrones
This video really emphasizes how Sean Bean should have gotten an Oscar nomination alongside Ian McKellan. Both of them get the lion's share of Tolkien's dialogue and they knock it out of the park.
Its funny how gandalf threaten pippin that he'll bash his head on the doors of moira even though the word to open it is friend
I think Peter, Fran and Philipa did a brilliant job of adapting the books onto screen
I agree to the fullest. These movies had a passion and atmosphere that I have not seen many others achieve yet. One can clearly tell when a movie is made for the sales or out of pure love to the original material or vision.
100%. Book purists just don't seem to realize the fundamental differences between literature and film as mediums of storytelling. They had the very difficult job of adapting the books in a way that would be true to the original vision, while having the pacing and spectacle of a feature film. The best book to movie adaptations of all time in my honest opinion.
Agreed
Agreed. A good movie is not the same thing as a good book. What made The Lord of the Rings a great book series is entirely different to what makes a good movie series. The fact that they were able to meet in the middle in the best ways possible, as much as possible, is truly what makes the LotR movies some of the best movies ever made.
@@samwilson3761 Yeah but at the same time it sucks that they did so with changes to characters that make them look foolish, bumbling, or outright assholes when they weren't. Now millions of people think several actually great characters suck and they are to lazy (or not interested enough) to read the books and learn different.
"Stronger than the foundations of the earth" what a powerful phrase. It conveys such power.
Sean Bean was magnificent in this.
I honestly love the changes in the placing of Gandalfs Death and Judgement lines.
Its placed in the first first section of the books even before Frodo leaves the shire, which to me always felt a little odd. Having it during the Entranceway of Khazard-Dum while Gollum is trailing them was nothing short of perfection. Taking something exactly from thr book and making it more of a keystone moment in thr film
“Fly, you fools!” This has to be one of the most potent utterances in the whole LOTR. Not “flee” or “run” but “fly”, you need to get out of here so fast that you’re feet won’t touch the ground. And why “you fools”? Well, Gandalf needed to shock them into movement. “fly my friends” would have strengthened their emotional bond to Gandalf and so not necessarily put them in motion. Saying “You fools!” is meant to underline how hopeless the situation has become, and to shock them a little. Also Tolkien’s literary talents show through in the alliterative combination of Fly and fools. When I watched the scene in the movie, even though I have read the books upwards of 60 times, I still choked up to actually see Gandalf being dragged into the chasm with the Balrog. Powerful stuff indeed.
Also there’s that element of “you fools” just being Gandalf’s personality. As Frodo put it, “I don’t miss Gandalf’s fireworks, but his bushy eyebrows, and his quick temper, and his voice.”
Still one of the most potent memories of watching the movies as a kid (am a youngster, grew up with the movies). I remember little me crying my heart out, thinking we'd never see Gandalf again!
You probably overanalyzed this
@@supershinigami1 Perhaps you’re right about the over-analysis. But speaking as someone who has read LOTR more than 60 times over the last 50 years, I can say that Tolkien really polished certain key sentences. The language in the last third of LOTR is masterfully crafted to exclude almost all Latin based words and many phrases are little condensed droplets of language that just shine! “save in some great need” is an example of that. Not “except in an emergency”. Who, apart from Tolkien would use “save” as a conjunction? To be “in need” is much more emotional than “emergency” and “in great need” pushes that emotion even further. “save in some” is Tolkien’s love for alliteration, and automatically makes the reader wonder what the problem might be, because Gandalf is riding hard into danger and we know that the whole world is in trouble, but we don’t yet know the extent of the problem.
Now, I am 100% sure that you will say that I am over-analysing Tolkien, but I have only scratched the surface!
@@martinstent5339 You know what? I'm glad you're such a big fan but I bet you're one of those people who detest other fantasy books and think their authors copied from Tolkien because you noticed one of the smallest similarities between the two.
Dude, I bet you also missed out on a lot of other great books even from other genres.
The transition from "Go back to the shadows" while looking all tough to "fly you fools" while looking helpless is kind of funny
Gimli had so many good lines in the book, a shame he's so underrepresented in the trilogy.
‘If by my life or death I can save [protect] you, I will.’ ~ Aragorn
I love how most of the meme fuel from the movies are also found in the books!
I like how the Fellowship's stay in Lothlorien is really fleshed out in the extended edition.
Lord of the Rings is probably the best book to screen adaptation I've seen thus far. I've this habit of reading the books before seeing the movies. I was a huge Percy Jackson and Artemis Fowl fan, and to see the books so bastardized on the screen, it hurt. Then I decided to pick up the LOTR book trilogy in quarantine, and I loved the books. When I watched the films, it was so refreshing as change. You didn't just make a good movie, but also a real treat for people who've read the books. Refrencing lines and the names of chapters at certain parts, keeping the themes consistent, keeping (even improving) some of the character's personalities, its amazing. Great movies, great adaptations.
Also I haven't seen the Hobbit movies so cant really judge them (._.)
Don't bother. The Hobbit is a fine book, judged on its own terms as a whimsical children's tale. An animated single-movie adaptation could potentially be good - in fact, one exists, and I hear it was done well.
Unfortunately, the Peter Jackson films were a soulless cash grab (from what I hear, the studios should maybe take more of the blame than Jackson). A few parts were done well, but there's nowhere near enough material to stretch into a trilogy, so there's a ton of padding. And the movies kept switching between a cartoonish tone, as if for a kids' movie, and the darker tone of LOTR
@@esquilax5563 definitely it was the studios fault. Jackson was not even going to direct them but got roped into it after the other one quit.
People like to hate on Hobbit trilogy far more than it deserves. It is many things, but not soulless. Watch them, and make your own opinion. Don't let others force their subjective view on you.
@@borealsullivan5486 Oh it is absolutely soulless. Plastic, even
@@LordVader1094 You need to re-evaluate some things in life
1:32 I cannot describe how much I love this quote ❤️ I keep it in my notes as a reminder for dark times
"All we have to decide is what to do with the time that is given to us." Such a moving quote for dark times.
What, no “we may yet, Mr Frodo”? That’s like the last line of the book.
“All shall love me and despair.”
Welp, Amazon definitely got the “despair” part right.
I love the faithfulness of the movie scripts in this adaptation! :)
The scenes where Boromir talks to Frodo... Jumping bits of it felt like someone had paused my favourite song without a warning, just before the best part. XD Or that weird feeling when you think you're still walking up stairs but you already reached the top and your foot sinks through that stair you expected to step on. Sean Bean is such an amazing actor, he does so well there. All the steps from faked friendliness to aggressive madness, then deep shame when he realises, the despair, how he pulls himself up... they are all perfectly seamless, they feel so real.
fuck yeah, sean bean is great. he's perfect for the role, I think.
Me: * confused * how come I don't remember this part?
* realises I haven't seen the extended additions *
* immediately goes online to see where I can buy the extended additions *
*editions
I’m waiting til the end of my life so I can watch all the movies one last time with a different feeling
Watch them now. You never know when the end of your life will be.
@@joax5955 my bad. How else could I have worded it? It's not a light subject. We can't plan life.
Hope you got your hands on the extended editions by now !! Some of the best scenes are in there! Mouth of Sauron, extra scene with the Palantir, last scene with Saruman... tried to name them without any spoilers :)
You're telling me the great "You shall not pass!" line wasn't in the book?!
No, in the book Gandalf only says "You cannot pass" once and proceeds to break the bridge in the same way we see in the movie. He doesn't say you shall not pass. It was a great addition though.
@@Jeremy-Bones It was actually not added intentonally. McKellen just got the line wrong, and said "You shall not pass" instead. ruclips.net/video/Cjn6uwHryes/видео.html for reference.
It's literally "you will not pass" in the script just like the book. Ian McKellan just messed it up lol.
@@brooksboy78 I'm glad he did lol, it's such an iconic line
The REAL Question: was that line dubbed over in the ADR process?
I love how one of my favorite lines from the movie came directly from the books 1:57
"Leave all that can be spared behind"-Aragorn on the dialogue in LOTR
That line Galadriel speaks in the movie about "in all lands love is now mingled with grief," etc., that line was spoken by Haldir in the book.
I wish there had been a scene for when Galadriel explained the depths of the Rings power to Frodo. Learning that if Frodo tried to tap into its true power that would annialate him was chilling.
at no point in the books is the ring clearly defined in terms of power- but in the book Frodo asks why he cannot read her thoughts even though she can read his- she says you would need to train your will to do so and warns him not to since the ring would devour him (or something along those lines. The exact power of the ring is kept vague but has a few hints
Still looking forward to Return of the King but only the lines in the book
There has never been a better or more faithful adaptation in all of film, and I believe there never will be.
As a swede I always giigle at "Fool of a Took". In swedish "Tok/Tokig" is to be crazy/ridiculous. And fool is "dåre" which means something similair.
And the translation of "Fool of a Took" is "Tokdåre" which is an expression of someone like Pippin. :D
As Tolkien was a scholar of Nordic languages, I wouldn't be surprised if this was intentional.
'I will remain Galadriel." = "I became less while he becomes greater." -- John the Baptist
Also, she's not just saying 'I will still be myself'. Galadriel translates as 'Lady of Light', so she's saying 'I will still be good'.
My goodness, Tolkien was a master of the written word.
The dialogue between Frodo and Gandalf is probably the best part of the film for me.
The scene with Frodo alone with Boromir was shot without doubles or forced perspective rigging, just Sean Bean and Elijah Wood. Because they set up the scene so effectively using camera angles alone (and the entire rest of the film), you don't doubt for a second that Boromir is way bigger than Frodo.
Whenever Legolas says "A Balrog of Morgoth", my brain automatically fills in "what did you say?" I think I've watched They're Taking the Hobbits to Isengard way too many times
So the great "they call it a mine... A MINE" and "Nobody tosses a dwarf" weren't in the books?
"Nobody tosses a Dwarf" is only available in the fan fiction.
"Nobody tosses a dwarf" is a reference to a fad that Tolkien could not possibly have predicted.
And in the book it was Merry who figured out the gate’s riddle. Fellowship was Frodo’s setup movie-wise, but all the hobbits get their time to shine.
Wait.. are you sure? I thought it was Gandalf. Maybe I misremember
@@jimmym.1548 Yes it was Gandalf, he misremembered.
Merry is such insanely big brained
I seem to recall that Merry suggested that it could be a simple riddle, which helped Gandalf to figure out the solution. So it was both of them. It's been years since I read it though.
_Ennyn Durin Aran Moria. Pedo Mellon a Minno. Im Narvi hain echant. Celebrimbor o Eregion teithant i thiw hin._
The Doors of Durin, Lord of Moria. Speak, friend, and enter. I, Narvi, made them. Celebrimbor of Hollin drew these signs.
i watched LotR last week and was left...dissatisfied. I just wish i could watch them all again for the very first time.
Great work again m8 bravo!
But where's the part in the book where they are trying to run down those crumbling stairs in Moria for ten minutes?
If I recall correctly (it's been a while since I read the book last), there's the better part of a full chapter describing a running battle between the Fellowship and the goblins of Moria, but I don't recall a cave troll, nor do they specifically mention that broken staircase.
But this is adaptation done correctly, which means that they read the original, understood not only the text but the tone and the imagery, and thought through what that might look like on screen for purposes of variety and pacing. And the broken staircase seems like a good way to add a challenge for the Fellowship that wasn't just another horrible monster, but something new they had to deal with quickly.
And then there's the question I've always wondered about: How did the balrog cross the gap left by the stairs collapsing?
@@thexalon Well, the Balrog has wings... don't know how effective wings made of smoke and brimstone could be for flying, but eh, I try not to question physics when there's a 10 metre tall demon involved.
If I remember correctly, the crumbling stairs weren't in the books, but that seen was inspired by a drawing of either Alan Lee or John Howe of how the stairs could look, and in that drawing there were those cracks in the stairs and then they got the idea of the stairs sequence.
@@thexalon There was a troll. The door right before a staircase broke because of Gandalf and the Balrog's opposing spells, but nothing about the stairs…also nothing to suggest that they weren't fully enclosed in the rock, unlike the bridge area.
And it leaped over a giant fissure in the floor, so…
1:50 Not pictured - Frodo: "It is not!" Lmao
Fun fact: Ian once said on a BBC Talk Show that he was meant to say "You Cannot Pass" according to the book but he accidentally said YOU SHALL NOT PASS instead
just hope peter keeps to the books like he did when creating the next films.
Very good.
The Two Towers but only the lines that are actually from the book ?
I think RUclips took it down
I love how the most meaningful and deep lines but also the most amusing were from the book. That's how u do an adaptation right. Lmfao tho i wonder why they changed golden showers 😂😂
I’ll never understand why Tolkien left the events of the first chapter of The Two Towers for the second book: the fate of Boromir felt like a better way to end the first book than what seemed like an unfinished plot point (the split of the Fellowship).
ps.: the edition of The Two Towers that I read actually had a preface by another author that spoiled what would happen to Boromir in the first chapter that I was about to read. 🤦♂️
That preface is a shame. Maybe there was a purpose behind “The Depature of Boromir.” It is a little ambiguous title unless you have read the book or watched the films. I suppose his death was meant to be a reveal. (And this is coming from a guy who knew Boromir is killed due to the books and films.)
So basically all of Gandalf lines, and no one else.
he he, yes
3:14 what did he say?
Where is the 'melon'! Where is it? You wouldn't give it to an ordinary citizen.
3:13 "what did he say?"......... "the hobbits the hobbits the hobbits the hobbits to Isengard to Isengard"
OP you are a fucking legend
I had no idea they mentioned Thorin in the EE.
What about the opening narration in the prologue? I seem to remember that's pinched from something Treebeard says in the Two Towers book.
See part 1
@@PepeCaseres Ha ha, missed the "part 2" in the title completely! (facepalm)
its from the ending of Return of the King
Barely if the book lines are in the movies lol. And that “YOU SHALL NOT PASS” isn’t in here either lol
It's "cannot pass" in the book.
Where's The Two Towers? 🧐🗼🗼
They have no Cave Troll line
How dare Tolkien not put it in
500 clicks - the F?
Great video
Galadriel is a little too creepy in the film, like a pantomime witch or something.
she's supposed to be subtly intimidating
@@Ashalmawia Agreed. When I first read the book she comes across mysterious, menacing and you are not entirely sure she is a "good" character. Jackson and company rendered this very well.
are there extended/shortened versions of the books because there are some lines i dont remember reading.
Abridged versions?
No
Nice work, but you should remove the channel logo from the bottom right of the screen, or move it to the left, if you can. I canneh see the words from the book.
So
Ian McKellen makes an effort to slightly change EVERY SINGLE SENTENCE Gandalf says in the books, apparently?
Im pretty sure the actors dont write the script my dude
@@whs1pmjazz No, but usually they have the liberty to choose how to deliver the lines. That includes changing a few words, or the structure of the sentence. Its then up to the Director to judge if the scene got better or worse for it.
@@franciscopetrucci fair enough
@@franciscopetrucci It's thanks to Sir Ian McKellen's acting style, he described it in a masterclass he once made. He reads each of his lines about a hundred times, chewing on them, dedicating thought to every single syllable and how to deliver them with perfect cadence and rhythm.
At that point, he knows all the lines by heart, and words them in the manner most natural to him.
@@4Shaman Thats pretty interesting! Thanks!
Make for hobbit too
Disappointed that "YOU SHALL NOT PASS" didn't came from the books
It was ad-libbed from Ian xD which is fantastic
Peter: Can I copy your homework?
Tolkien: Yeah, just change it a bit so it doesn't look like you copied me.
Peter: ok
I find it odd that they took out "Fly you fools, you can meet with the eagles up ahead and fly to mount doom. Fly you fools!"
That's because he forgot to tell them where they could find the eagles and the rest of the movie would have been them searching for the eagles. That would have been too boring.
You missed "YOOUUUU CANNOT PASSSS!" Which, given the number of book lines that were almost but not quite there that you have mentioned, is a surprising oversight.
'You cannot pass' is at 2:36. In the book, he doesn't repeat the line at the end. It only says 'and crying aloud he smote the bridge with his staff'. Jackson interpreted 'crying aloud' as a second 'You cannot pass' which McKellen turned into 'you shall not pass'
@edelweiss88 I figured that last one is either the last "You cannot pass" from his first round of them ("Go back to the shadow! You cannot pass.") or the one a bit later after he breaks the Balrog's sword ("The wizard swayed on the bridge, stepped back a pace, and then again stood still. 'You cannot pass!' he said.") Either way there's actually one missing in the film.
It goes to show some of the more cringy lines are taken from the book which should be no surprise. I mean, Galadriel imagining herself as an almighty queen and coming across as VERY villainess like in Fellowship would be absolutely nonsensical and out of place if Tolkien hadn't written it. By the way, for those who haven't read it, the book does have a lot of cool extra story beats that Jackson didn't film but it is UNBELIEVABLY DRY. Especially the beginning of Fellowship; the drama and suspense are halted every 3 pages by, "and then Frodo felt a little tired so the hobbits ate a ton of food, drank a ton of beer and fell asleep for 12 hours."
It's a shame they don't make book edits like driv anymore. today, when you make a book adaptation, the authors fill it with a bunch of minorities who have no business there, and instead of filming what is in the book, they put their nonsense in the book, and the screenwriters think that it will be much better, but it's always the other way around