Rawalpindi ke Fasadaat jinhon ne Taqseem ki Tareekh Badal di | Sajjad Azhar
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- Опубликовано: 23 авг 2024
- تقسیم کے وقت ہونے والے فسادات میں 10 لاکھ لوگ مارے گئے، ڈیڑھ کروڑ لوگوں کو سرحد کے دونوں طرف ہجرت کرنی پڑی، نتیجتاً نفرت کا جو سلسلہ شروع ہوا، اس نے آج تک خطے کو اپنی لپیٹ میں لے رکھا ہے۔ تقسیم کے وقت کے فسادات کی ابتدا تو 16 اگست 1946 کو کلکتہ کے فسادات سے ہو چکی تھی تاہم راولپنڈی میں مارچ 1947 کو ہونے والے فسادات نے تو گویا تقسیم کے خون آلود ہونے پر مہر تصدیق ثبت کر دی تھی۔ اگر یہ فسادات نہ ہوتے تو ماہرین کا خیال ہے کہ شاید پاکستان اور بھارت آج امریکہ اور کینیڈا کی طرح کے ہمسائے ہوتے۔
مقرر سجاد اظہر ایک پیشہ ور صحافی اور محقق ہیں جو انڈیپنڈینٹ اردو سے وابستہ ہیں۔ حال ہی میں ان کی نثری نظموں کی کتاب “لنڈی کوتل کی لالٹین” شائع ہوئی ہے۔ وہ گذشتہ 28 برس سے پاکستان اور پاکستان سے باہر کئی صحافتی و تحقیقی اداروں سے وابستہ رہ چکے ہیں اور مختلف موضوعات پر تحقیقی پروگراموں کا حصہ رہے ہیں۔ ان کی تحقیق کا ایک بڑا موضوع راولپنڈی کے فسادات ہیں جن کے بارے میں ان کی رائے ہے کہ اگر یہ نہ ہوتے تو بعد کی تاریخ بہت مختلف ہوتی۔
How to appreciate .. Don't have the words... A million respect to Azhar ...
Mini ‘Truth and reconciliation’ conversations like these heal the wounds, and may cure the problem faced within radicalized communities. Many thanks to the hosts and for the speaker.
Bhaijaan, Thank you for your courage to speak the truth .
Does any body has courage in India to speak truth about the killings of Muslims in East Punjab by the hands of violent Sikh jatthas and Hindu violent mobs on the inciting of Master Taara Singh and congress leaders .......
There were several talks on youTube. This was specifically about Rawalpindi and its horrors of fasaad.
@@arendolaren392 reaction to the killings of Sikhs in west Punjab
Great wishes from the depth of my heart for entire team of THE BLACK HOLE for conducting the most sensitive part of history for the new generation. Thanks.
Even in 2023 India, muslims pelt stones on Hindu religious processions . Most recent example: Nuh District India. Islamist mindset doesn't believe in coexistence
Very informative.. Sajjad Azhar is a great historian and an excellent speaker.. ❤
Now I hv no doubt as to why Pakistan is heading so stead-fastedly towards doomsday......
The cries of those women and children still haunt Paxtan..
The nation who kills it's own father or bapoo Gandhi for his insisting to adhere with the agreements signed with pakistan and Britain, is sure travelling with high speed to their doomsday, and Sala Chai wala moodi tea 🍵 has accelerated it
An excellent platform to produce awareness and to dig out the real causes by very learned intellectuals, its a great effort ,I think a great job to perform, presence of very imminent scholar and the way each and every single moment of the past history is defined by the speaker, it is very special and unique, I think it is one of the best session ever since recorded, a great approach and a great wisdom behind this session, Keep it up and all the best...
How come it was possible for Sikhs to fight for united India when their population were not in majority any districts of Punjab.
One of the most honest discussion on this channel. 🎉
Although I knew about Rawalpindi Fasad from Dr. Ishtiaq but Azhar sahib did great research and went into detail.
Pervez Hoodbhoy’s initiative with “The black hole” is much appreciated. At least there is one forum in Pakistan where people with critical thinking can freely discuss ideas and speak the truth.
Partition is a tragic and painful subject but we must face it with honesty and empathy for the victims.
Wish, in India we have a forum like this soon.
@@somnathde8680 India has never tried to actively control the narrative. We were never taught in our schools that only Hindus suffered because of the partition. We were told Partition was an unfortunate event where people from all the religions and walks of life have suffered and perished.
yes.
but i think he ignored one fact. That is the involvement and raid of pushtoon tribes in the area of Rawalindi and especially in thoa khalsa.
@@kanaka7552from the Indian's I have met, you guys live in a fantasy world. But pretend otherwise, and claim a childish moral high ground.
This also proves Jinnah & Iqbal Gang supported worst of Jihadi mindset people in Muslim society.
Very courageous and researched work done by an industrious Sajjad Azhar. Impressed by his true work.
Excellent work by Sajad sb. He is a gold mine of pindi history. Very Very good effort. Thanks
Saree fasadaath ke jadh ek he hai aor wo hai musalmaan hypocrisy .....no khud jeena ata hai no dosroon ko jeene deta hai.
muslim civilisation is death/after life centric . hindu civilisation is life/consciousness centric. It requires mind to turn inward & address the foundational concept.
Thank you Sajad Azhar sahib for explaining the real facts and causes of Rawalpindi fasadat in 1920's and 40's which were never known before. Rawalpindi is my city . I remember jamia masjid , kurshid cinema and bilraj sahini when he visited Rawallpindi in 60's. Your research about history of Rawalpindi is amazing.
Great educational value ! An eye opener. Lajawab bayaan ❤🤟
1:03:44 A very good question, in very decent and smart choice of words, but reaching at the heart of the problem!
Agree. But the speaker either ignored it, or the answer seemed incomplete.
Please make correction to name of village where ghilab Singh havaili was and well incident happened the name of village is Thoha Khalsa not a Choha Khalsa both are villages situated in district Rawalpindi Thoha Khalsa was relatively bigger and main village of Sikhs for that time Dukh Pajni was a place where all women jumped in well this is another small village next to Thoha Khalsa sorry if I said something wrong thanks
You are right, it was Thoa khalsa
What about Bihar Bangal riot hindu killing Muslim we can not live together hindu and Muslim r different we love to eat beafe ❤❤❤
میری دادا امیر حیدر سے کئی ملاتیں رہیں ، سنکی وفات پر ان کے گاوں جاکر ان کے جنازہ میں شریک ھونے کا اعزاز بھی حاصل ھوا واقعی وہ کیمونسٹ پارٹی کے عظیم رھنما تھے۔
Fascinating. Thank you so much for shedding light on this very sad and hidden part of our history.
Aziz Malik ki kitab Rawal Des kay baad second most informative sitting on Rawlapindi. Great work
Thank you for speaking up true history that uprooted is residents of pindi for centuries .🙏
راولپنڈی کے گردو نواح کے علاقوں میں آج بھی لوگوں کا مزاج ایسا ہے ۔ وہ جھگڑے میں بڑی خوشی سے چھلانگ لگاتے ہیں ۔ 😂😂
میرے والد صاحب انڈین نیوری میں تھے اور بمبئی میں تعینات تھے، وہ 1946 کی بغاوت میں شریک تھے، ان کو 6 مہینے کی قید ہوئی جب پاکستان بنا تو ریلوے میں آسامیاں آئیں والد صاحب میٹرک پاس تھے انہوں نے اپلائی کیا تو انہیں سزا یافتہ ہونے کی وجہ سے بھرتی نہیں کیا گیا بعد میں والد صاحب نے ریلوے میں درخواست دی کہ میں نے انگریز کے خلاف بغاوت کی اپنے ملک پاکستان کی خاطر جیل کاٹی تو ان کو بھرتی کیا گیا، دوسری طرف انگریز کے وفادار کو اچھی نوکریاں اور جاگیریں پاکستان میں ملیں۔
i think The Black Hole is one the best channel i came crossed.thank u very much Dr Parviz Saab for initiative.
TBH is doing a great service to enlighten the masses. Keep it up.
कितना शांतिपूर्ण मज़हब है
In nut shell a single maulvi destroyed all the good will amongst all the religions.
Thanks Dr Sajjad ji,
An eye opener naked TRUTH.
Hope your message shall bring peace.
Eye opening show. Very scary story. My prayers for the departed souls. Om shanti 🙏🙏
Very informative, learned a lot in 1.3 hours, lot of very relevant information.
Thankyou for sharing these untold stories
Truly an eye opening session.
After ranjeet singh, Sikh become elite class in this region (Potohar and Rawalpindi) and it's natural that their behavior with poor muslims is not good after 2nd world some Muslims also become wealthy due to their bravery in 2nd world war for british then they want to take elite status from Hindus and sikhs this is the background
but u see Indian Punjab and Haryana are way ahead of Pakistan Punjab, and they became elite because of there merit but partition of india is best thing happened to india , if muslim weren't partitioned into Pakistan Bangladesh and india , india would have been a failed state
Exactly. Once Sikhs took over the area, they became rulers and occupied most the productive lands. The reason for riots lie deep in the resentment. It just needed some triggers.
Thankyou, may Allah bless you.
Massacre took place in all places. My parents were in Ahmedpur East in the state of Bahawalpur and and our elders told us that poison was distributed to women in case the Muslim men tried to rape them. My father had many good Muslim friends who helped us to escape in return for giving them all property movable and immovable which was immense.
Astonished to find that lot of inteligent pteople like you are there in Pakistan ❤❤❤❤❤❤
Musalman want to build Mosque, every where but don't allow others to build their relegious places.
بوھت ودھیا تجزیہ کیتا جے جناب حالات رفتہ دا ۔
سکھی تے خوشی وسو آمین 🌳
پاکستان کی صوبہ سرحد میں 14 اگست کو کوئی فساد نہیں ہوتا لیکن جب آذادی کے چند دن بعد ہی جناح صاحب نے صوبہ سرحد میں ڈاکٹر خان صاحب کی منتخب کو برطرف کیا تو وہاں بھی کمیونل فسادات شروع ہو گئے۔
Hi Shahid, r u from Jammu ?
Very impressive narration. I congratulate the speaker for his indepth knowledge about partition of India.
Jazakum Allah. May we be surrounded by critical thinkers
This is different intelligence and intellectual part of Pakistan ❤..
Very humble and gentle speaker❤️❤️
Hence proved, one Molvi is enough to play havoc.
Let The Black Hole create a whatsapp group officially for the people from the subcontinent for critical thinking and for rational thinkers.
Good to see such intellectual people in pakistan
sir
there are intelectual people in Pakistan but they badly criticised and some how forced to leave country. This is an ideal place to promote religious fundamentalsm.
Intellectual people should not be partial. Hindus do not shower flowers on Indian Muslims n Kashmiri Muslims. Tit for tat is human nature.
The reasons for non-violence in Baluchistan and Sindh are quite understandable. The relations between the two communities were more harmonious, and the poverty was on both sides of the aisle. In Punjab and in particular Rawalpindi, the relations were tense because both were living side by side. The urban commercial life of Rawalpindi was dominated by the Hindu community, the landed elite were mostly Sikhs, while the Muslims were on the fringes of the system. So there was a clear economic dividing-line between the Hindu-Sikh and their Muslim counterparts.
Therefore muslims were justified in committing genocide of hindus and sikhs?
EXCELLENT discussion and extracting the fact such fact should be told to Pak society
we need to transfer the true knowledge to our future generations. Unfortunatly our syllabus is based on one sided facts and fictional stories.
Love this program.
Interesting 🤔 thanks so knowledgeable video
Scary narration of the true events by Sajjad Azhar. Administration of that time purposefully didn't take any action so that the division widens between people. Anything taken with people's sorrows will not be a happy place to live, not surprised with present conditions of the place called Pakistan! Feeling sorry for all those families (irrespective of region or religion) who lost their loved ones and houses. Partition has taken many innocent lives. Heart weeps. People are not learning from history.
good to say irrespect of region and religion. We must condemn every sort of criminal activity.
Feel sorry for yourself, not Pakistan. Pakistan is developed far more than where it was in 1947.
The thousands of communal, religious and caste riots that have killed tens of thousands in India have nothing to do Pakistan. You people are busy killing each other, but have your head buried in the sand.
I pity you.
True knowledge of history of our present pakistan is an eye opener, specially the part played by district Rawalpindi.
@@tufailmohammad8851 it's nothing but typical Pakistani self loathing.
Others try to lie, and hide about their history, Pakistanis love blowing everything out of proportion, it's really pathetic.
Very pity to say, Sajjad Azhar sb that due to one's weak knowledge about jinnah Sb and pakistan movement one should not comment on national issue. The point is Was Hindu and Sikh leadership or Congress wanted a separate country for muslim majority regions? Sajjad sb you please focus on it and try not undermine Jinnah Sb and pl try to correct your Urdu talafuz
شکریہ اہم معلومات فراہم کرنے کا
love you listening, very inspiring
Reason myself from Pindi
Same thing happened in Kashmir to minority Hindu Pandits!! 100% ethnic cleansing. They didn't leave a single family
Don't you mean the Muslims in Jammu, where 250,000 were murdered, and more forced out.
And now is happening to Muslims in Kashmir, where around 100,000 have already been murdered.
The pandits are still alive. The Muslims murdered in their hundreds of thousands.
Don't be sick, and create false comparisons.
Very informative Programm
So painful. It was the arrogance of Muslims and the role of clergy that led to this tragic situation.
An excellent effort to get lesson for future by studying history.
It is really wonderful work, as my parents are from the pak Punjab appeal me a lot..
Sir,
The partition not only affected the people who migrated one place to another but it also hit local people as the majority of the people with high consumptions left their regions.
Great research for public awareness
Most tragic and shameful incidents of Punjab history. There must be a reconciliation process. The learned speaker says Thoha Khalsa and Choa Khalsa is same. These are different. Overall good effort.
The science of “Basic Reason” behind an historical event dictates; find the most powerful if they’re not behind it or in any form are not happy about the event that might help bring about their dream come true. Here we think the Pindi riots or other all over India had British blessings to speed-up their goal of neutralising the previous enemies ie, Sikhs and Muslims by bringing them to; “fight each other don’t come after us!”
Bravo! An excellent program that is full of never-before-heard information. Thank you!
Did never read in history books, Amazing facts of religious clashes so concealed.
Dr. Sajjad Azhar well done, I heard about the rahoit of Kahuta from my parents. I saw the city. Really all over the Pakistan Government did not pay any attention to save historical places and now are ruined.
We Muslims Never Accept Realities. I wish…….
Tara Singh was a Brahmin pretending to be a Sikh and fooled the Sikh community into destroying peace in Punjab and their good relations with Muslim.
Responsibility is with MK Gandhi, Jinnah and Nehru,who had agreed for partition without knowing the consequences. Also your peaceful dieen which directs you to do jihad and annihilation of non muslims. Mohamad bin Qasim, abdali, are your role models .
It was British decision to create pakistan but unfortunately our leaders were dumb they could have avoided that tragedy
There is a Pakistan within present India. That Pakistan is not only the ones who have taken Bedouinized Yahoodi names, Romanized Yahoodi names but also those who have foreign Gods, Prophets like Marx, Adam Smith, Anglo created prophet Gandy and who follow Khalifa Al Lootyani ConAngrez Taimurid-Mughal Fake-KaamRaid Bandit NoWheru & his progeny. This Pakistan within India is as anti-national, antiDharma as Pakistan outside present India's border.
بہت عمدہ گفتگو👏👏👏👏
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Dr. Amerjeet Singh, a leading diaspora khalistani activist calls these communal riots an act of madness from both sides in the punjab.
Khalistan Zindabad! Pakistani Punjab should be converted into Khalistan with Lahore as the Capital
Well done too good I am enlightened. QA when saw that Hindus were not willing to give basic rights to the Muslims with in one country he decided to get India divided.
What a knowledgeable coversation
baqi tamam qomo main afrad zalim hothay hain, lakin is quom may poori quom hi zalim hai. bus in ko yaqeen ho ke jin par inho ne zulm karna ho wo tadad may kam ho. tadad zayada ho tu phir in se beghairat koi nahin
very good speech in history.
thank you.
There is an extremely thin line between civilisation and barbarism. Entire societies can plunge into madness and savagery. The ethnic cleansing that went on during Partition is an open wound between India and Pakistan that has no signs of healing. Talking about what happened is a small step in the right direction.
Thanks to Jinnah.
Be it with unprovoked planned massacre of Hindus in Calcutta, or massacre of Sikhs & Hindus around Rawalpindi, Jinnah's Muslim League ( supported by majority of Muslim elite of undivided India) Goons started the violence for achieving their aim of creating Pakistan. Source: Dr. Ishtiyaq Ahmed ( Pakistani Historian)
Even in 2023 India, muslims pelt stones on Hindu religious processions . Most recent example: Nuh District India. Islamist mindset doesn't believe in coexistence
This also proves Jinnah & Iqbal Gang supported worst of Jihadi mindset people in Muslim society.
The 'riots' which were started by 'Hindus' and 'Sikhs' at partition r still going on in 'India'. 'Riots' of Punjab in 1984, 'Riots' in Gujrat in 2002, Riots in Delhi last year and 'Riots' in Manipur now r just next episodes of those. Its called Karma, these 'riots' never happened in Pak after Partition, 'lanat' hehe
In Pakistan, very few people have started revisiting the real cause of partion between India and Pakistan.There is a sincere attempt to analyse the real cause from pakistani prospective. it is really a welcome and very courageous step to undo this unnatural partition in this sub continent.
sajid ajhar behad kam musalman hai jo sach boltey hai aap unmesey ek hai aap apnee book hindustn mey bhee publish karey hindi and panjabi mey feer ek baar apkey hosley ko daad deta hoo jo sach bolney kee himmat rakhta hai
Very informative historical information but really very painful as well.
in this vlog about sadly killing in Rawalpindi, it is true that this mascard lead to further violence which could never be controlled and resulted in mass killings of Punjabi community. However one historical fact is ignored. The fact of matter behind killing of sikh community in thoa khalsa was the orgnaized invasione of pushtoon tribes in this aea. These tribes who were fully armed and they were going to kashmir to librate it. During their way they attacked all those villages and towns which were located in their way. This ill fated village was one of those dozens of villages which became victims of these tribes. Local people who were living together since centuries were not much involved in this mass killing. However attack of pushtoon tribes is not even mentioned in this vlog.
Besides other factors,in my opinion, mulana Ishaq was the main culprit behind whole massacre of pre &post partition. How said & heart breaking it is. Before this man, everyone was living peacefully 😢
My father was in Pindi and it wasnt like this please dont spread more hate all tbe people whether HindusSikhmuslims were victims of the greed of the british
Madam, dont obfuscate what happened in 1947. Millions died after pk was carved out of India. Pakistan has totally & irreversibly wiped out all minorities from its area. Let karma logically play out its consequences. It is unavoidable.
British archives are reliable? The brit records supported the loyal Sikhs who were granted contracts and lands confiscated from Muslims in 1859. Go to the Nicholson monument and ask the local communities.
اگر آپ نے ایک ایسے علاقے میں ، جو کہ آزادی چاہتا ہے، کرپان لہرانی ہے اور کہنا ہے کہ پاکستان نہیں بننے دیں گے، وہ بھی شدید سیاسی tension میں.. تو یہ سب کچھ تو ہوگا..
Always respect the common man no matter where you are.
So is forcing wives and daughters of sikhs and hindus to convert justified?
no doubt Pakistan have reached rock bottom and have become a bankrupt state
The 1926 guru Arjun armed processions were meant to intimidate Muslims to remind them how they were punished after 1857 and loyal Sikh "masters" imposed and enriched to subjugate and lord it over the local Muslims.
Great speech sir. especially for society in history
کیا انسان۔۔۔۔نہیں نہیں مسلمان اتنا سفاک ہو سکتا ہے؟
علمی معلومات
Very interesting and frank talk.
the village name where Sikh ladies jumped into a well was
THOHA Khalsa
not
Choha Khalsa
Right
زبردست ڈسکشن
Amazing research,
Inspiring topic
A great post.
Eye opener for almost every one.
Rawalpindi k fasadat jo waqe'aat bayan ki'ay, uc mein saabat kia giya k musalman fasadi aor qatal o gharat k zumedar thay . Tareekh k manafi aor haqa'iq k bi mukhal.
Problem is that Rawalpindi Cantt was largest Cantt of whole India but Royal British Army never moved from Cantt during killing.
Excellent program, really enjoyed
Very informative ....
It's amazing, very informative well done
The other side of the facts should also be reflected. One sided story cannot be digested.
Great job Respect from California 🙏🙏🇺🇸
Sir app bi isi area se gye thy?