I absolutely LOVE Silvestri’s pre-Image work. He was by far my favorite artist growing up. His forms were amazing and there was a dynamism to his work that was completely lost once he started aping Lee. BTW, Silvestri was working those silhouettes way back in ‘88 during his Fall of the Mutants work (Uncanny 226-ish). Not sure if it was for speed or visual pop, but he went to twice-monthly a few months later.
The "new comic rush" is real. Growing up my family went to the mall for pizza on Wednesdays. After we ordered I huffed it down to the book store to spin the comic rack. GI Joe, Wolverine, Detective Comics, Spiderman... The rush of finding a new comic is a real thing.
Wolverine is hands down the best Silvestri art in my opinion. Loose, sketchy, and full of energy! He broke out of the 6 panel grid that was used on a lot of his X-Men work and got a lot splashier, while still being an easy read due to great visual storytelling of course. Please do more of his run on this book! Tex too!
This was the issue wich I began to collect comics here in Brazil in 1994. Here it was the Wolverine #28 and was a mix of wolverine, Excalibur and a one-shot of Daredevil all in the same issue.
16:11 - best art in the book is the Moebius Elektra poster used by Entertainment This Month to advertise Elektra Lives Again (maybe they didn't have any good FM/LV art to use in the ad).
To me one of his most underrated works is; Revenge of the living monolith (the marvel graphic novel). Beautiful stuff; specially with Geoff Isherwood inks.
Great choice, my favorite Wolverine issue as well. Read my copy to pieces. Was in love with Wolverine after Weapon X... would definitely be down for more. You guys rock. Thanks for everything.
Fun fact: Logan is a Scottish name and growing up in Canada they used to say in school that Scottish was the largest immigrant group here. It's very different now, as this was a few decades ago, but that's where it comes from!
depressed does not describe how I feel about Ed Piskor. I have been collecting comics for about 40 years, I am a professional animator, and I share everything I see on this channel with my five children. Please continue to make content.
Thanks for the insight into Silvestri's Wolverine work, which I wasn't overly familiar with. Your recent videos on Silvestri's Darkness and Mignola's Amazing Screw On Head were a perfect illustration on the benefit of page construction and panel layouts, which contribute so much to the readability of comic pages - the difference between Silvestri's Marvel work and later Image / Top Cow work being a stark night-and-day comparison. In the Wolverine issue every panel has purposeful placement and frames the art, guiding the reader's eye to an intentional point of focus. Even the open panels are bordered by other panels or gutters that infer a structure. The Darkness issue in comparison is a chaotic mess - with almost no visual alignment to any of the panels and a majority of the pages comprised of splash images splattered with jagged overlapping insert panels or broken borders. This frenetic scattering of art is just tiring to look at, with my eye following so many confusing, odd tangents. Adding to the comparison with a showcase of Mignola's precision of panel placement just cemented how much a considerate page construction can capture a reader and allow them languish in the line-work. I look forward to any future videos on Hama and Silvestri's Essesntial Wolverine issues if you decide to dive in.
I really appreciate this Silvestri love. His X-Men and Wolverine are some of the best comic pages of all time. Green and Silvestri were an amazing team.
Silvestri is the most underrated X-Men artist. Also, just thank you. You two have pulled me full throttle into the hobby, and given me sooo much knowledge. This channel is the most important thing in comics rn.
Silvestri-Green is my first X-Men artist pairing as well, think I got in around the Brood arc somewhere. I fell out of comics in '93 after a decade of collecting, with Deathmate being the last straw, and have only recently returned finally to re-assess and remember my roots as an artist etc. These two, Marc and Dan, nothing like this pairing. My freshest take on this trip is that Dan Green was godlike.
34 is the first book I ever bought and I've been chasing that dragon ever since. loved when this story finishes with the sabertooth/albert/elsi showdown. please please do his whole run. Most of the Hama stuff is gold.
Silvestri is the X-Men artist that got me hook line and sinker invested in the book as a kid. Agree with Jim, being pissed at the time they dropped him, but then Wolverine... He was drawing angry and I loved it.
I keep coming back to hear em blow Silvestri that shit gets me hard bruh. When Rugg said "Dan Green not going to Image with Silvestri pissed me off" or whatever I was like yeah don't stop I'm almost there.
The work that Mark brought to those 1980’s comics was superb. Jim Lee’s work was powerful and energetic. Although Siverstri’s run on Wolverine was one of the best for that character. With excellent work from Larry Hama, Dan Green and Glynis Oliver. The way comics should be. Thanks for a great episode, gents!
NO WAY! I literally cut the right hand page at 6:47 out and have it taped to my wall because i love it so much. The page is also yellowed now and it looks even better. So weird to see this random issue thats personal to me get a shout out 😅
I’ve got a couple of old Doctor Strange issues where Dan Green did the pencils, it seems like he was a pretty accomplished artist in his own right, outside of the inking. It wasn’t super flashy, but still very serviceable, not bad work by any means.
Silvestri sometimes gets flak as not being "as good as people remember" in those Uncanny issues, while people forget he was doing double duty a significant amount of time. And those pencils sometimes lacked details but were tremendously dynamic, energetic, and expressive, I love his Uncanny X-Men outback run.
I think the Transformer you’re talking about is Arcee, she didn’t have a toy in the 80’s. I think she’d start getting toys in the early 2000’s & she’s had a bunch since.
Some of the best Silvestri Definitely the yakuza part, and the cable sabertooth run need a “Sunday video” my favorite era of comics Also Is Wolverine , Pepe Silvia ?
Nah for me, his last few issues of Cyberforce, say what you will about the title itself but those last 6 issues or so he was holding serve!.....🤔 i think had a couple dope witchblade issues during that time too
Broke my leg and have been staying at my folks house. Been reading heros return from the late 90's. FF and Thor mostly. I wasn't a fan at the time but am liking them know. Am I just bored out of my mind? Or do they hold up?
100% agree with this title. His Uncanny X-Men artwork got stronger the longer he went on, but the Wolverine stuff was looser. There are a lot of his original pages on auction sites - sublime in black and white.
Best, most knowledgeable comics channel! You guys stay strong. Im a product of late 80’s comics and checked out when Image came around and hype beat illustration. Came around again in early 00’s for all the stuff that became the movies. You guys are super informative about art techniques and nostalgic history. Keep it up!
I was never a Silvestri fan,his art-work didn't do it for me,at all. I remember he said in an interview he was ready to leave comics,he felt like he did everything in comics he could do.Then came the Image offer and no way he could/would turn it down. LOL.Met Silvestri at a con in Arlington,Tx back in late 2006 ( I believe ) I had just returned to Ft Hood,Tx ( I was off for the weekend of this con ) from Ramstien Air Force hospitol in Germany ( I was there for 3 1/2 months total ) was caught in a-MEAN-ambush in Iraq while on a routine combat patrol,lost 8 of my friends that horrible day.This was my 2nd straight deployment to Iraq,my first one was in late 2004 and all of 2005 with an infantry unit.at Camp TQ.I did these 2 tours ( plus 2 more after these 2 tours )with the Texas Guard ( I volunteered for all 4 deployments to go fight in Iraq )I was on active duty orders for another 3 months,then back to my civilian jobs. SEMPER-FI
I absolutely LOVE Silvestri’s pre-Image work. He was by far my favorite artist growing up. His forms were amazing and there was a dynamism to his work that was completely lost once he started aping Lee. BTW, Silvestri was working those silhouettes way back in ‘88 during his Fall of the Mutants work (Uncanny 226-ish). Not sure if it was for speed or visual pop, but he went to twice-monthly a few months later.
The "new comic rush" is real. Growing up my family went to the mall for pizza on Wednesdays. After we ordered I huffed it down to the book store to spin the comic rack. GI Joe, Wolverine, Detective Comics, Spiderman... The rush of finding a new comic is a real thing.
I’ve always enjoyed Silvestri’s art, but you both show me how to appreciate it. Thank you. Great episode.
I remember loitering in a CVS in Haverhill reading this story.
I believe it's in one of my epic collections.
Silvestri rules. Him and John Romita Jr ARE 80s Xmen.
Silvestri's run was when I started reading Wolverine. I have deep nostalgia for this... let's keep going.
Wolverine is hands down the best Silvestri art in my opinion. Loose, sketchy, and full of energy! He broke out of the 6 panel grid that was used on a lot of his X-Men work and got a lot splashier, while still being an easy read due to great visual storytelling of course. Please do more of his run on this book! Tex too!
This was the issue wich I began to collect comics here in Brazil in 1994. Here it was the Wolverine #28 and was a mix of wolverine, Excalibur and a one-shot of Daredevil all in the same issue.
16:11 - best art in the book is the Moebius Elektra poster used by Entertainment This Month to advertise Elektra Lives Again (maybe they didn't have any good FM/LV art to use in the ad).
To me one of his most underrated works is; Revenge of the living monolith (the marvel graphic novel). Beautiful stuff; specially with Geoff Isherwood inks.
Great choice, my favorite Wolverine issue as well. Read my copy to pieces. Was in love with Wolverine after Weapon X... would definitely be down for more. You guys rock. Thanks for everything.
Fun fact: Logan is a Scottish name and growing up in Canada they used to say in school that Scottish was the largest immigrant group here. It's very different now, as this was a few decades ago, but that's where it comes from!
depressed does not describe how I feel about Ed Piskor. I have been collecting comics for about 40 years, I am a professional animator, and I share everything I see on this channel with my five children. Please continue to make content.
I loved silvestri's "choppy, scratchy" style too. To me he was like a cross between both Buscemas and Simonson in this period
Wow those inks are beautiful... love the tree branches and water effects
Thanks for the insight into Silvestri's Wolverine work, which I wasn't overly familiar with. Your recent videos on Silvestri's Darkness and Mignola's Amazing Screw On Head were a perfect illustration on the benefit of page construction and panel layouts, which contribute so much to the readability of comic pages - the difference between Silvestri's Marvel work and later Image / Top Cow work being a stark night-and-day comparison. In the Wolverine issue every panel has purposeful placement and frames the art, guiding the reader's eye to an intentional point of focus. Even the open panels are bordered by other panels or gutters that infer a structure. The Darkness issue in comparison is a chaotic mess - with almost no visual alignment to any of the panels and a majority of the pages comprised of splash images splattered with jagged overlapping insert panels or broken borders. This frenetic scattering of art is just tiring to look at, with my eye following so many confusing, odd tangents. Adding to the comparison with a showcase of Mignola's precision of panel placement just cemented how much a considerate page construction can capture a reader and allow them languish in the line-work. I look forward to any future videos on Hama and Silvestri's Essesntial Wolverine issues if you decide to dive in.
I really appreciate this Silvestri love. His X-Men and Wolverine are some of the best comic pages of all time. Green and Silvestri were an amazing team.
Hama makes fun of wolverines costume again when they referred to it as funny colored underwear in issue 66
Silvestri is the most underrated X-Men artist. Also, just thank you. You two have pulled me full throttle into the hobby, and given me sooo much knowledge. This channel is the most important thing in comics rn.
Loved his x-men run
The chick Transformer was Arcee!
Silvestri-Green is my first X-Men artist pairing as well, think I got in around the Brood arc somewhere. I fell out of comics in '93 after a decade of collecting, with Deathmate being the last straw, and have only recently returned finally to re-assess and remember my roots as an artist etc. These two, Marc and Dan, nothing like this pairing. My freshest take on this trip is that Dan Green was godlike.
34 is the first book I ever bought and I've been chasing that dragon ever since. loved when this story finishes with the sabertooth/albert/elsi showdown. please please do his whole run. Most of the Hama stuff is gold.
Silvestri is the X-Men artist that got me hook line and sinker invested in the book as a kid. Agree with Jim, being pissed at the time they dropped him, but then Wolverine... He was drawing angry and I loved it.
I keep coming back to hear em blow Silvestri that shit gets me hard bruh.
When Rugg said "Dan Green not going to Image with Silvestri pissed me off" or whatever I was like yeah don't stop I'm almost there.
The work that Mark brought to those 1980’s comics was superb. Jim Lee’s work was powerful and energetic. Although Siverstri’s run on Wolverine was one of the best for that character. With excellent work from Larry Hama, Dan Green and Glynis Oliver. The way comics should be.
Thanks for a great episode, gents!
NO WAY! I literally cut the right hand page at 6:47 out and have it taped to my wall because i love it so much. The page is also yellowed now and it looks even better. So weird to see this random issue thats personal to me get a shout out 😅
I like the three previous issues even more, great combo of hama and silvestri for sure
I’ve got a couple of old Doctor Strange issues where Dan Green did the pencils, it seems like he was a pretty accomplished artist in his own right, outside of the inking. It wasn’t super flashy, but still very serviceable, not bad work by any means.
Silvestri sometimes gets flak as not being "as good as people remember" in those Uncanny issues, while people forget he was doing double duty a significant amount of time. And those pencils sometimes lacked details but were tremendously dynamic, energetic, and expressive, I love his Uncanny X-Men outback run.
That young redheaded woman looks like she has direct Milo Manara design inspiration.
Glad you said it! I was about to mention it myself.
Tex's 66-68 arc is my favorite of all time no joke cant wait to see you guys take a look
Yup. Silvestri's X-Men and Wolverine up to about #50 is just the best.
More Silvestri pls!
Yeah, Ed! That first werewolf face looks cribbed from (or at least inspired by!) Cycle of the Werewolf 🐺
🔥✒️🖤🖋️🔥
My favorite Wolverine comics by far.
I think the Transformer you’re talking about is Arcee, she didn’t have a toy in the 80’s. I think she’d start getting toys in the early 2000’s & she’s had a bunch since.
Some of the best Silvestri
Definitely the yakuza part, and the cable
sabertooth run need a “Sunday video”
my favorite era of comics
Also
Is Wolverine , Pepe Silvia ?
Check out his Batman & The Joker Unplugged, it's a $5 Artist Edition of the first two issues.
Fully agree, Silvestri's art in this issue is good. His rendering of the female character here reminded me of Frank Thorne's style.
Nah for me, his last few issues of Cyberforce, say what you will about the title itself but those last 6 issues or so he was holding serve!.....🤔 i think had a couple dope witchblade issues during that time too
Awesome! Would love to see more Silvestri wolverine
awesome video!
Xmen 222 was my first comic. Epic stuff❤
Broke my leg and have been staying at my folks house. Been reading heros return from the late 90's. FF and Thor mostly. I wasn't a fan at the time but am liking them know. Am I just bored out of my mind? Or do they hold up?
I love that issue 34
More Silvestri 💯 great comic
100% agree with this title. His Uncanny X-Men artwork got stronger the longer he went on, but the Wolverine stuff was looser. There are a lot of his original pages on auction sites - sublime in black and white.
I think Jim Lees current hatching style is very similar to Marc’s work
Have you guys done an episode on Glamourpuss? Great educational series on classic illustrators.
💓Rip Dan Green💓
Best, most knowledgeable comics channel! You guys stay strong. Im a product of late 80’s comics and checked out when Image came around and hype beat illustration.
Came around again in early 00’s for all the stuff that became the movies. You guys are super informative about art techniques and nostalgic history. Keep it up!
Silvestri, gotta ask again! Batman & The Joker Deadly Duo Unplugged, best five bucks you'll spend, Artist Edition floppy!
I mean have you seen that recent Batman/Joker book he drew?
We just say RCMP or Mounties.
I was never a Silvestri fan,his art-work didn't do it for me,at all. I remember he said in an interview he was ready to leave comics,he felt like he did everything in comics he could do.Then came the Image offer and no way he could/would turn it down. LOL.Met Silvestri at a con in Arlington,Tx back in late 2006 ( I believe ) I had just returned to Ft Hood,Tx ( I was off for the weekend of this con ) from Ramstien Air Force hospitol in Germany ( I was there for 3 1/2 months total ) was caught in a-MEAN-ambush in Iraq while on a routine combat patrol,lost 8 of my friends that horrible day.This was my 2nd straight deployment to Iraq,my first one was in late 2004 and all of 2005 with an infantry unit.at Camp TQ.I did these 2 tours ( plus 2 more after these 2 tours )with the Texas Guard ( I volunteered for all 4 deployments to go fight in Iraq )I was on active duty orders for another 3 months,then back to my civilian jobs. SEMPER-FI