@@CCraigHallTVit’s so hard atp but we have to think playoff runs and if we don’t fix our rim protection now , we won’t be able to make it into the finals let alone ecf appearance
@@CharlieKnicks JV isn’t a great defender compared to Robinson and we saw how long it took to implement Burks and Bojan into the chemistry from a mid-season trade last season. We need to leave this team alone and let them grow together.
Why are you tou guys questioning Leon Rose? We're only here because of this man and Thibodeau. All you armchair managers cried every move he made, look at us now. Let this man do his thing.
Nick Richards really would be the best option. He’s only making $5 million. Does a lot of what Mitch does. Rebounds well. Can rim run. His teams GM is not named Danny Ainge. Precious can be the contract. Knicks will have to include something else but again no near as much as what Ainge would want for Kessler.
I’ll take richards but what does it cost to bring him in , we got alot of 2nds , Mitch is what we need but none of us can trust he will even be able to to finish a month or a week so we do need reinforcements can’t just be Sims or start giving Ariel more time. I honestly think Steven Adams is a pretty good option.
@@TruthSpeaker4 Adam’s ? , I can’t argue with that I haven’t seen him play a lot this year . Jv is way better at scoring jus thought Adam’s might be a better defender and enforcer. It’s tough idk what big we should go after for a backup . Any ideas i’ve been trying to come up with ideas that haven’t really been talked about like obviously everybody knows that the Bol’s and a couple other teams are going to blow it up and in the off-season I thought someone like Jalen Smith would’ve been a good bench piece for us and I was tight when he signed with the bulls and the bulls are probably going to trade a lot of players. I just don’t know if Jaylon Smith is one of them.
...I still wonder why the Knicks didn't get into the Dorian Finney Smith sweepstakes at that price point. We might've been able to leverage his value to re-acquire Donte. They might've also been able to expand the deal for Nic Claxton by including Mitchell Robinson, Duece McBride, that WAS 1st round pick, as well as ALL the 2nds we have
I hope we get the opportunity to see the return of Mitchell Robinson before the trade deadline because when he's healthy he's both an elite rim protector and offensive rebounder who could move our needle in the direction it needs to move for us to seriously compete with Cleveland, OKC and Boston for a Chip.
@krazyfan2000 Over the past 6 seasons minus this one, Wolves and Raptors fans said the same about OG and KAT. KAT has played 327 games, OG 344 and Mitch 320. Let's see how healthy those big contract players stay during the duration of their contract. Because if Mitch is considered always hurt, according to the number of games played by all 3, they're all always hurt..but since you're a fan of the Knicks, you put more emphasis on Mitch's injury history.And Mitch would be playing if it wasn't for Embid.But that injury is what led the Knicks to trade for KAT. But Mitch is very important.Without Rim Protection, teams like the Wizards keep up with the Knicks.
@@jj47k. KAT played 2 full seasons with THIBS in wolves. Mitchell Robinson has never played a full season ever... KAT has played in over 573+ games where did you get 327 games... Also, OG Anounby played over 418+ games where did you get 344 games. Both of those guys arent injury prone compared to Mitchell Robinson.
@@jj47k. KAT has played 573+ games. And OG has played 418+ games. Stop getting things wrong just to prove your point. No one is more injury prone than Mitchell Robinson..
@emersonssbb I said "OVER THE PAST 6 SEASONS" not their entire careers.KAT been in the league since 2015 and Mitch been in the league for 6 years since 2018,So that's why i said the past 6 seasons minus this season .So with that information, now go and do the Math.
Absolutely agree Chris , I’ve always loved the thought of richards signing with us especially since his value is worth more for such a “cheap” contract . Both richards and champagnie can fit into specific rolls to utilize their best skills with us . Im definitely a fan of both. Richards being our main center would average double doubles easy. Champagnie in a shamet roll can easily give us 12 ppg 5 rebounds 5 assist off the bench mind you !
I love Mitch and what he brings but holding on to him in hopes he returns to previous form would hurt his already injury tarnished value. So if we can get Jonas for him we should. The best ability is availability and our bench could really use the scoring and rebounding
He’s definitely not Mitch but he’s also not injured all The time either with that being said I’d rather have walker Kessler if he’s not gonna cost us An arm and a leg
I say stand down on the trades. Mitch is jogging and doing fine. They’re just taking precautions. He will be right by the end of January. He’ll be playing
I love Mitch but I only wouldn’t do this because Jonas age. It’s 32 to Mitch’s 26.. Mitch is a better defender and we need defense but Jonas is serviceable enough on defense and he’s available health wise and won’t clog up the offensive paint like Mitch. Idk.. id be ok with it, but not too sure it’s the best move🤔 although it’s not a bad move, it makes us better and more ready simply by availability and depth. 🤷🏽♂️💯
They need a version of Mitch that stays healthy. When he comes back, they're going to be lethal. Scoring is not their problem, it's the rebounds and defense. You can bring him off the bench or slide Hart to 6th man and KAT to the 4. Unfortunately, Mitch doesn't seem to stay healthy
No way leon get this guy. He is a horrible defender. I rather a defensive center/power forward. Kessler, richards, goga,Moses brown are all a better fit
Dear Leon, please pull the trigger on Jonas V or Nick R. Kat needs serious help in the paint, and this organization can't wait to see if Mitch can stay playoff healthy. Jonas is do 9.9 million this year so they would have to take Mitch plus pay the Knicks 4.2 million. Nick Richard is do 5 million in 2025 Precious for Nick plus 1 million the hornets would have to pay. Nick is the better option younger and cheaper. Nick would give Tibs the ultimate big line up. Not to mention that much needed help in the paint along with some good offensive play. We have been winning but it's against the bottom feeders of the NBA. Jan schedule Thunder, Grizzles, Hawks, Nuggets and Bucks sprinkled in with some ok talent. This will be where the Knicks will be tested.
Valenchunas is not a strong defensive player, but he can score in the low post if given the opportunity. He isn't easily pushed around either. Just look at him ! Watching last night he was very chummy and laughing with Knick players. Almost as if he, and they, knew something.
Stick with the Blockness Monster. We love him. Yeah, I know He gets hurt, but the last one was On Embid. What he did was criminal act, and he got away with it.
I want Nick Richards no one else. And somehow I have Mitchell Robinson ending up in New Orleans no matter what the trade is if it’s by a three-way trade, which is more likely to happen anyway or a second trade after the first trade with us
I’ll take this trade but No deuce or Payne or our 5 starters. This will be a trade that put the Knicks up with the big dogs. My man Mitch is a little shaky and you don’t need a player like that when your going for a ring. Can you imagine East vs West and then Big Mitch goes down.
He's solid but I only see this as a decent depth move to reduce burning out Kat in the regular season. Once the playoffs come Jonas will be useless. I'm considering Mitchell Robinson's career to be over in New York .. He's just not skilled enough or ever been in good enough shape to battle these injuries to be useful for what this team needs.
So we get a guy that was okay playing with the worst team in the league to get a payday instead of going to a team to compete. He also would be the oldest and slowest guy on the team. He can’t do what Mitch does. And please stop with the slander on Mitch. The dude was purposely injured by someone else. He’s not trash and we need to stop talking like he is. We see he’s doing better. And Nick Richards can’t even take over starting on his own team. We done need him when we have Precious. No more trades please. We’ve done enough.
I say no deals unless we robbing someone for a good player but honestly i rather wait to the off season we are more then 1 piece away and have alot of money locked up in that starting 5. I say wait let hokporti get a spin
i think trading mitch for jonas is so stupid we need defense and rebounding im fine with him getting traded but it should be for a center that gives us that not scoring and rebounding we don’t have any amazing paint protectors precious is good but at the end of the day he’s to small jonas is such a stupid trade for us
I don't agree I believe if we can keep mitch and get Val for precious and Sims, this would make our second much better .. Starting - Brunson, mikal, Og, townes, mitch.. BENCH- Cam, deuce, hart, Ariel, Val..
OKAY I'M KEEPING IT REAL. WHEN EVER LEON POKER FACE ROSE DOES MAKE A TRADE NO ONE KNOWS UNTIL THE TRADE IS DONE. MR. IS COMING BACK. RIGHT NOW MR IS NOT REALLY TRADABLE BECAUSE NO ONE HAS SEEN HIM PLAY. GO MR YOU WILL BE BACK. CAN'T SAY WHAT'S UP FOR THE NEXT SEASON, BUT JONAS NOT. CAPPING 😅
We all loved IHart, but the CBA placed restrictions that prevented the Knicks from truly competing for him. Based on a quick Google response: The Knicks' offer to Isaiah Hartenstein was four years and $72.5 million, which was their maximum offer given their cap restrictions: Offer The Knicks offered Hartenstein their maximum offer as soon as the NBA Finals ended. Jalen Brunson participated in the pitch to retain Hartenstein. Comparison The Thunder offered Hartenstein a three-year, $87 million contract, which was about $11 million more annually than the Knicks' offer. The Thunder's contract is front-loaded, and the final season is a team option. Hartenstein's decision Hartenstein chose to sign with the Thunder, saying he wanted to "set for the rest of (his) life" and that he had a chance to win with the Thunder. He also said that he loved New York, the front office, and his team, but that the Thunder's offer was too good to refuse.
@ 72 even better but I get it 11 million, no nyc taxes makes a difference. Totally forgot they offered him that . For all this trouble though should have just paid him
So I guess if OG goes down coach will put Deuce McBride to play Power Foward come on maaan Precious gives both OG & Kat rest & you just wanna yank that luxury out your roaster & not replace & by the way who is the most injury prone on this squad isn't it OG bro, Precious as a option is probably already saving OG from Thibs as we speak.
Precious deserves his spot in this team,he’s a hard worker and gets results
Our trade deadline move will be trading mitch from street clothes back into the knicks jersey
Dear Leon, Please leave everyone alone because we are in third place in the East. Thank you
I hear you but if we don't go as far as fans think we should, you probably won't feel the same. Respectfully
@@CCraigHallTVit’s so hard atp but we have to think playoff runs and if we don’t fix our rim protection now , we won’t be able to make it into the finals let alone ecf appearance
@@CharlieKnicks JV isn’t a great defender compared to Robinson and we saw how long it took to implement Burks and Bojan into the chemistry from a mid-season trade last season. We need to leave this team alone and let them grow together.
Bro you gonna ND a big for 1 2 seeds hello... gotta get rim protector
Why are you tou guys questioning Leon Rose? We're only here because of this man and Thibodeau. All you armchair managers cried every move he made, look at us now. Let this man do his thing.
Prescious needs to stay. Send Sims outta here he is useless
They have to match salaries. Sims doesn’t get paid enough to make salaries match.
@@martyl1313either way I want Precious to stay because he is fitting in more with the team’s chemistry the more he plays.And he is young
The siren’s in the background give you some street cred👍🏾
Either make a move that involves Mitch or wait on Mitch. Dont move any rotational players.
I thinks that’s the plan for real, they gonna see if they can get something decent defensively that won’t clog the offense or just keep Mitch.
Nick Richards really would be the best option. He’s only making $5 million. Does a lot of what Mitch does. Rebounds well. Can rim run. His teams GM is not named Danny Ainge. Precious can be the contract. Knicks will have to include something else but again no near as much as what Ainge would want for Kessler.
I’ll take richards but what does it cost to bring him in , we got alot of 2nds , Mitch is what we need but none of us can trust he will even be able to to finish a month or a week so we do need reinforcements can’t just be Sims or start giving Ariel more time. I honestly think Steven Adams is a pretty good option.
Trash
@@TruthSpeaker4 Adam’s ? , I can’t argue with that I haven’t seen him play a lot this year . Jv is way better at scoring jus thought Adam’s might be a better defender and enforcer. It’s tough idk what big we should go after for a backup . Any ideas i’ve been trying to come up with ideas that haven’t really been talked about like obviously everybody knows that the Bol’s and a couple other teams are going to blow it up and in the off-season I thought someone like Jalen Smith would’ve been a good bench piece for us and I was tight when he signed with the bulls and the bulls are probably going to trade a lot of players. I just don’t know if Jaylon Smith is one of them.
@@TruthSpeaker4 😂love the honesty give it too me straight lol
Bobby Portis is the answer.
...I still wonder why the Knicks didn't get into the Dorian Finney Smith sweepstakes at that price point. We might've been able to leverage his value to re-acquire Donte. They might've also been able to expand the deal for Nic Claxton by including Mitchell Robinson, Duece McBride, that WAS 1st round pick, as well as ALL the 2nds we have
Smith isn't a center, that's why
Nic Claxton is a twig and gets bodied by most players
The commentator gave an excellent exhaustive analysis.
Knicks is not trading anybody. Stop with the bs
Agreed. If Jonas played D, Rose wouldve pulled the trigger already. But giving up Precious & Mitch would be costly as we would have no defensive Bigs.
I hope we get the opportunity to see the return of Mitchell Robinson before the trade deadline because when he's healthy he's both an elite rim protector and offensive rebounder who could move our needle in the direction it needs to move for us to seriously compete with Cleveland, OKC and Boston for a Chip.
You hope. That's the problem. It's always hoping he's going to be available.
@krazyfan2000 Over the past 6 seasons minus this one, Wolves and Raptors fans said the same about OG and KAT. KAT has played 327 games, OG 344 and Mitch 320. Let's see how healthy those big contract players stay during the duration of their contract. Because if Mitch is considered always hurt, according to the number of games played by all 3, they're all always hurt..but since you're a fan of the Knicks, you put more emphasis on Mitch's injury history.And Mitch would be playing if it wasn't for Embid.But that injury is what led the Knicks to trade for KAT. But Mitch is very important.Without Rim Protection, teams like the Wizards keep up with the Knicks.
@@jj47k. KAT played 2 full seasons with THIBS in wolves. Mitchell Robinson has never played a full season ever... KAT has played in over 573+ games where did you get 327 games... Also, OG Anounby played over 418+ games where did you get 344 games. Both of those guys arent injury prone compared to Mitchell Robinson.
@@jj47k. KAT has played 573+ games. And OG has played 418+ games. Stop getting things wrong just to prove your point. No one is more injury prone than Mitchell Robinson..
@emersonssbb I said "OVER THE PAST 6 SEASONS" not their entire careers.KAT been in the league since 2015 and Mitch been in the league for 6 years since 2018,So that's why i said the past 6 seasons minus this season .So with that information, now go and do the Math.
Absolutely agree Chris , I’ve always loved the thought of richards signing with us especially since his value is worth more for such a “cheap” contract . Both richards and champagnie can fit into specific rolls to utilize their best skills with us . Im definitely a fan of both. Richards being our main center would average double doubles easy. Champagnie in a shamet roll can easily give us 12 ppg 5 rebounds 5 assist off the bench mind you !
I love Mitch and what he brings but holding on to him in hopes he returns to previous form would hurt his already injury tarnished value. So if we can get Jonas for him we should. The best ability is availability and our bench could really use the scoring and rebounding
I'm sure Washington wants to do bizness with the Knicks to get their pick back from us..
Look what they turned IHart into, imagine the skills Valanciunas wold develop.
Precious has earned his spot, don’t wanna see him go
it's the one year deal
Go Knicks
He’s definitely not Mitch but he’s also not injured all The time either with that being said I’d rather have walker Kessler if he’s not gonna cost us An arm and a leg
Ainge will charge the Knicks two arms and a leg for Kessler. Forget him.
yeah, best to give up that dream unless you want to give up Deuce and picks
Don’t need to trade mitch for jonas there’s other ways
If we can get a Vince Williams,Torrey Craig, or any other 2 mil back up wing would be huge and hope to have a healthy Mitch as the backup 5
If we need a wing we have Dadiet. If we need a rim protecting center who can defensively fill the paint , we have Hakaporti.
The only center getting traded is Sims and second round picks
I say stand down on the trades. Mitch is jogging and doing fine. They’re just taking precautions. He will be right by the end of January. He’ll be playing
I love Mitch but I only wouldn’t do this because Jonas age. It’s 32 to Mitch’s 26.. Mitch is a better defender and we need defense but Jonas is serviceable enough on defense and he’s available health wise and won’t clog up the offensive paint like Mitch. Idk.. id be ok with it, but not too sure it’s the best move🤔 although it’s not a bad move, it makes us better and more ready simply by availability and depth. 🤷🏽♂️💯
I don’t want to trade Mitch for Val. Achuiwa is doing great!!
They need a version of Mitch that stays healthy. When he comes back, they're going to be lethal. Scoring is not their problem, it's the rebounds and defense. You can bring him off the bench or slide Hart to 6th man and KAT to the 4. Unfortunately, Mitch doesn't seem to stay healthy
Leave precious alone he belongs to the Knicks he plays hard
He won't resign
You lacking rim protection and you are going to trade away the best rim protector in the game really smart move
You can not protect the " rim " from the bench in street clothes !
Mitch, Sims and Wash’25 pick for Valanciunus and Bey. Solves ALL our problems (center depth, scoring wing).
SLOW AS HELL
@ Slow but available but can shoot and rebound. The bonus is adding a scoring wing (Bey) to the second unit.
@ Slow but available but can shoot and rebound. The bonus is adding a scoring wing (Bey) to the second unit.
another day, another trade rumors with this guy...
Idk I think Robinson needs to go he always gets injured. This team is in win now mode.
Mitch is a bench warmer//cheer leader.. too brittle..make the trade..
No way leon get this guy. He is a horrible defender. I rather a defensive center/power forward.
Kessler, richards, goga,Moses brown are all a better fit
Moses Brown sucks.
We aren't moving Mitch for Valanciunas , more likely it would be precious and change.
Not only does Mitch get blocks hence blockness monster, he’s best off reb in league doing more in less time than rest n avoided bc of his rim pro
We can use him. He adds needed bulk
Dear Leon, please pull the trigger on Jonas V or Nick R. Kat needs serious help in the paint, and this organization can't wait to see if Mitch can stay playoff healthy. Jonas is do 9.9 million this year so they would have to take Mitch plus pay the Knicks 4.2 million. Nick Richard is do 5 million in 2025 Precious for Nick plus 1 million the hornets would have to pay. Nick is the better option younger and cheaper. Nick would give Tibs the ultimate big line up. Not to mention that much needed help in the paint along with some good offensive play. We have been winning but it's against the bottom feeders of the NBA. Jan schedule Thunder, Grizzles, Hawks, Nuggets and Bucks sprinkled in with some ok talent. This will be where the Knicks will be tested.
Precious and 2 seconds for Richards
Valenchunas is not a strong defensive player, but he can score in the low post if given the opportunity. He isn't easily pushed around either. Just look at him ! Watching last night he was very chummy and laughing with Knick players. Almost as if he, and they, knew something.
Stick with the Blockness Monster. We love him. Yeah, I know He gets hurt, but the last one was On Embid. What he did was criminal act, and he got away with it.
I want Nick Richards no one else. And somehow I have Mitchell Robinson ending up in New Orleans no matter what the trade is if it’s by a three-way trade, which is more likely to happen anyway or a second trade after the first trade with us
Achiwua, Payne and Washington pick and 2 2nds
I’ll take this trade but No deuce or Payne or our 5 starters. This will be a trade that put the Knicks up with the big dogs. My man Mitch is a little shaky and you don’t need a player like that when your going for a ring. Can you imagine East vs West and then Big Mitch goes down.
He's solid but I only see this as a decent depth move to reduce burning out Kat in the regular season. Once the playoffs come Jonas will be useless. I'm considering Mitchell Robinson's career to be over in New York .. He's just not skilled enough or ever been in good enough shape to battle these injuries to be useful for what this team needs.
Please don’t get another slow footed Center as a back up to cat !!! 😒🤨😒🤦🏽♂️
So we get a guy that was okay playing with the worst team in the league to get a payday instead of going to a team to compete.
He also would be the oldest and slowest guy on the team. He can’t do what Mitch does. And please stop with the slander on Mitch. The dude was purposely injured by someone else. He’s not trash and we need to stop talking like he is. We see he’s doing better.
And Nick Richards can’t even take over starting on his own team. We done need him when we have Precious.
No more trades please. We’ve done enough.
Hes not better than Mitch
But he's healthy
Mitch can't stay on the floor so basically he's a wasted space on the roster.
He can't even defend against Kat mitch will shut both of them down
I say no deals unless we robbing someone for a good player but honestly i rather wait to the off season we are more then 1 piece away and have alot of money locked up in that starting 5. I say wait let hokporti get a spin
i think trading mitch for jonas is so stupid we need defense and rebounding im fine with him getting traded but it should be for a center that gives us that not scoring and rebounding we don’t have any amazing paint protectors precious is good but at the end of the day he’s to small jonas is such a stupid trade for us
I don't agree I believe if we can keep mitch and get Val for precious and Sims, this would make our second much better ..
Starting - Brunson, mikal, Og, townes, mitch..
BENCH- Cam, deuce, hart, Ariel, Val..
OKAY I'M KEEPING IT REAL. WHEN EVER LEON POKER FACE ROSE DOES MAKE A TRADE NO ONE KNOWS UNTIL THE TRADE IS DONE. MR. IS COMING BACK. RIGHT NOW MR IS NOT REALLY TRADABLE BECAUSE NO ONE HAS SEEN HIM PLAY. GO MR YOU WILL BE BACK. CAN'T SAY WHAT'S UP FOR THE NEXT SEASON, BUT JONAS NOT. CAPPING 😅
Why, just won 8 in a row, just be a bench warmer
I’d stay where we’re at thanks ..I love og bro but how I wish we could have made it work with I hart . Gave og 200 and 60 to ihart …
We all loved IHart, but the CBA placed restrictions that prevented the Knicks from truly competing for him.
Based on a quick Google response:
The Knicks' offer to Isaiah Hartenstein was four years and $72.5 million, which was their maximum offer given their cap restrictions:
Offer
The Knicks offered Hartenstein their maximum offer as soon as the NBA Finals ended. Jalen Brunson participated in the pitch to retain Hartenstein.
Comparison
The Thunder offered Hartenstein a three-year, $87 million contract, which was about $11 million more annually than the Knicks' offer. The Thunder's contract is front-loaded, and the final season is a team option.
Hartenstein's decision
Hartenstein chose to sign with the Thunder, saying he wanted to "set for the rest of (his) life" and that he had a chance to win with the Thunder. He also said that he loved New York, the front office, and his team, but that the Thunder's offer was too good to refuse.
@ 72 even better but I get it 11 million, no nyc taxes makes a difference. Totally forgot they offered him that . For all this trouble though should have just paid him
Please leave that man where he is he's too slow for the NY KNICKS.
So I guess if OG goes down coach will put Deuce McBride to play Power Foward come on maaan Precious gives both OG & Kat rest & you just wanna yank that luxury out your roaster & not replace & by the way who is the most injury prone on this squad isn't it OG bro, Precious as a option is probably already saving OG from Thibs as we speak.
You cash trade Precious and Ryan and maybe a rookie and a 1st
He has no defense we definitely don't need him
get ready for the KNICKS TRADE TALKS WITH JAZZ TALKS INTENSIFYING! LMAO CODY KESSLER.. LMAO
hahah nah walker isn't getting moved. those videos are over
I would trade mitch for something wen he gets healthy he has never been consistently healthy and we are paying him money
We don’t want him!
He doesn't make any team bettet!!!
We need to do whatever we need to do to win NOW! There is no tomorrow!
I'd like to win before the alien invasion, please.
wanna make a move? get a coach
Noooooooooo
Trade Mitchell for The Beard
Keep precious, trade Mitch
Yeah, yeah I’m sorry this was a pointless video. He’s not coming here.
Hope not
Dont want him
jonas is soft