From Dadboy to Sadboy? "Stardust" by Yung Lean review
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the three most important songs in yung lean’s cannon - not necessarily my favorite, but i think the most vital and influential - are Ginseng Strip 2002, Kyoto and Agony
This is the best answer
@@benfoster1123 nah kyoto and ginseng strip are old and his new sound is more relevant to react to imo
Myb one jonathanlendoer song
@@jolo35 the fact that ginseng went viral in 2021 shows there’s still relevance in his old sound though, and if you want to understand how yung lean became a phenomenon after only hearing stardust you should check out the older stuff
@@lyleugleman9799 Nice name and also i was off the internet for a bit so seeing that song blow up on social media as a backdrop for stupid videos was mindblowing
I'm not a Dadboy, more of a Grandad boy although I'm not a Dad at all, but I thought this song had a very appealing and catchy sonic texture juxtaposed against his thrown off vocals. From what I understand from my Zoomer friends, a Vibe is a feeling that is enjoyable, pleasant, and can't quite be explained in words. It's a feeling.
Exactly right man glad you can appreciate the culture
the most important songs from each album imo:
unknown death: gatorade
unknown memory: yoshi city
warlord: hocus pocus or pearl fountain
frost god: hennesey and sailor moon
stranger: agony or yellowman
poison ivy: bender++girlfriend
starz: boylife in eu or pikachu
good taste bro
Nahhhh it’s def gotta be Miami ultras from warlord though
@@Jackolis5 facts
hurt is definitely more important for unknown death
Poison ivy: French Hotel ***
Hey Professor, I just want to commend you because this is pretty much the only music review channel I have the patience and attention span for. You always make me have a greater appreciation for the projects I already enjoy. Anyways I'm a huge Yung Lean fan, so thank you.
Agony, Kyoto, and Ghosttown are my favorites. I'd recommend the doc on him too.
I would go as far as also saying that not only was yung lean and sadboys influenced big time the underground music panorama, but also both the sadboys groups and specially Draing Gang were super influential to Art Design and underground culture. The trends with hyperpop and taking inspo from the early 2000's that you see right now mainly in design and fashion, they were doing it and pushing it in 2013 2014.
Drain Gang (formerly known as GravityBois) is Bladee, Ecco2k, WhiteArmor and company whilst Sadbois is Yung Lean, Yung Sherman,Yung Gud and company, but they share a lot of crossover.
yung sherman is officially part of both groups i believe
One of my favorite things about yung lean is just how he seems like a random kid from Sweden who started making music with his friends in a basement when they were smoking weed in high school. The raw or amateurish vocals over super complex and interesting beats is so charming to me that i cant get that feeling anywhere outside of sadboys and drain gang
My 3 lean songs to listen to that I think give a good picture of the range lean hits throughout his albums
1. Hennessey and Sailor Moon
2. Miami Ultras
3. Monster
1 & 2 are absolutely essential Lean deep cuts
Monster 🔥
Like other people said I think it's important to watch the documentary "In my head" to understand more about his history and what he has been through
About your question regarding essential Yung Lean songs:
Agony, Kyoto and Ginseng strip are the classic ones.
My FAVORITE ones, however, would be Pearl Fountain, Boylife in EU, and this recent track called Bliss.
HOWEVER
It is *essential* to watch the Yung Lean documentary. That’s how you understand Yung Lean. It’s free on RUclips!
I highly recommend the songs Red Bottom Sky, Hotel in Minsk, and Agony. Hyped to see you getting into Yung Lean's music!
Hi professor Sky! Long time watcher, first time commenter. Yung Lean is one of my favorites and these are my personal favorite songs in no particular order.
1. Yoshi City - amazing production. Droney, auto tuned slathered, hook-centric, sad boy vocals. I think this is his best “cloud rap” era song. My favorite song to zone out to while driving at night.
2. Miami Ultras - this is the quintessential song from Warlord imo. This was a dark period in his career. Watch his “in my head” doc if you’re interested. It’s a dark song with dramatic production, intense vocals and pretty nonsensical lyrics. 10/10
3. Starz - this song is indicative of his evolution as an artist. This song is so dreamy and coherent compared to some of his earlier works.
Him and drain gang/sad boy affiliates are such an anomaly in the grand scheme of traditional pop and hip hop music. Everything they do feels slightly off kilter and novel in the best way possible.
+1 for miami ultras, blew my mind when I first heard it.
@@dat_1guy353 solid choices, would add a song from Stranger too tho such as Red Bottom Sky, Muddy Water (forget name, the first song) or Yellowman
For me, the three songs that encapsulates what it means to be a “SADBOY” & showcases Yung Lean’s influence on Hip-Hop are Hurt, Red Bottom Sky, and Miami Ultras. Also, I’d recommend watching the music videos for all three tracks. He has a knack for visual storytelling which can provide context to his cryptic lyricism. Distinctly Red Bottom Sky & Miami Ultras deal with the traumas from the death of his manager Barron Machat to his time in a mental hospital after his breaks from reality.
P.S. If you have time to spare I’d also highly recommend the documentary on Yung Lean titled “In My Head.”
You nailed the Sadboys ethos. Your articulation is unreal, as always.
Here are my picks:
UD 2002: Solarflare, Nitevision, Gatorade
Unknown Memory: Don't go, Yoshi City
Warlord: Highway Patrol
Frost God: Crystal City
Stranger: Yellowman
Poison Ivy: friday the 13th
Starz: Starz
love the hw question because I know you're going to get so many different answers
my 3 would be Hoover, bender++girlfriend, and Red Bottom Sky. I think these three give a good depiction of all the different sides of lean. Honorable mentions to Boylife in EU and Agony
Really appreciate you deep diving into this odd group of swedes. Look forward to seeing more videos on them (please do E-Ecco2k)
This channel is amazing, I love seeing your reviews because you take on so many variables and nuances that other's don't express, thanks for being so open minded in reviewing these albums, I'm such a drain gang fan and it makes me value my taste more. thanks!
In my opinion, Stardust is his weakest mixtape so far. I highly recommend that u listen to his album Stranger, and as you asked for some music recommendations you can listen to:
-Yoshi City (one of his most popular and accessible songs from the beginning of his career)
-Blue Plastic (a song from 2019, it's not his usual style but for me it represents a lot of his potential)
-Yellowman (from "Stranger", I just think this one is beyond beautiful)
-Extra one: Boylife in EU
yellowman, agony, boylife in eu, put me in a spell are such beautiful lean songs
For the homework:
-Yellowman (really neat The King in Yellow intertextuality)
-Agony
-Miami Ultras
As a quicker alternative to the documentary everyone else is recommending, I'd suggest the Fader article 'Yung Lean's Second Chance'. INCREDIBLE story. Epitomizes the artistic transvaluation of tragedy into heightened creativity.
Love the perspective you bring
Skye your reviewing style is so refreshing. I hope your channel prospers. This is what music criticism should be.
My three exemplary Yung Lean tracks, in chronological order, would have to be:
1. Ginseng Strip 2002
2. Hoover
3. Red Bottom Sky
These works all exemplify how versatile of a musician he is and the production on each one push the genre forward as a whole.
Phenomenal review Professor! I think you will find my perspective a bit interesting. I've been a fan of Yung Lean and as well as Drain Gang since they've orginally came to fame back in 2013. I was about to finish high school around that time and I'm also around Lean's age. For more additional context, I am black/a person of color, which I'm aware apart of a minority within their fanbase. Yung Lean's rise to fame was a special place in time and to understand you must see it from the begining, or atleast when it comes to his evoluation as an artist.
The first place to start off is his first major hit, Ginseng Strip 2002, which has recently gotten a lot of attention from Tik Tok! Which will be intresting to see the contrast from generational inbetweeners like myself (Late Milennial to Early Gen Z; Age 20-27?)
The next song you should visit is Kyoto, a 2014 major hit for Yung Lean before his official Debut album (sophomore project) Unknown Memory.
Following album releases, my personal favorite album, Warlord, which is Yung Lean's at his somewhat darkest artistcally. This album was released along the time with the death of his former manager and there's a whole story behind this rollout that is too long for me to touch on within this comment. Notables song to visit from this album: Miami Ultras!
Afterwards care to visit his albums Stranger and Starz! Some of his very best solo work resides there.
To answer your question between the differences between the Sadboys and Drain Gang, they're indeed different groups, but share or shared a single member, Yung Sherman who is a producer for both groups. Each group has known eachother personally for a long time before their rise to fame and work so closley together that they're basically partner groups!
damn prof you got some interesting stories, one of the many reason i watch your videos.
Great Video!
also fyi Thaiboy digital is also in drain gang.
The groups( DG/SB) are technically separate, but they share some members.
For example, Yung Sherman (producer) is a member of both groups.
ps three yung lean songs I would recommend are Red bottom sky, Starz, and Ghosttown
In the Song 5th Element Leany goes '' ...Yung Lean aka Neil Young...''
Love these videos dude c:
Thanks for this video, I really enjoyed it :)
please listen to that new billy woods record its really ground breaking
the documentary 'in my head' is a great look into Yung Lean if you want to learn more about his rise to popularity and the shit he's gone through
23:20 Sad Boys Entertainment is the name of Yung Lean's group with the producers Yung Sherman and Gud, Drain Gang (formerly Gravity Boys) is Bladee, Ecco2k and Thaiboy Digital's group with the producers Whitearmor and Yung Sherman (again).
The two groups are so closely related that the subreddit r/sadboys primarily discusses drain gang music and the two are often combined with the acronym GTBSBE/DGSBE. The only reason for the separation is basically that the two started independently and met after forming, and Yung Lean is so connected to the Sad Boys branding that it would be weird for him to just disband Sad Boys and join Drain Gang
Hi man, really glad to found your channel. The 'bliss' sample is from Альянс - На Заре, you should definitely check it out, it's an old synth pop band. As for best Yung lean songs, it's "Agony", "Blue Plastic" and "Bender++girlfriend". There are so many layers in these songs and they just blend blatantly well on repeat. You should, however, definitely check out the whole discography to see how versatile Yung Lean is and how he progressed over the years. Not necessarily to make a video about it, but I'm sure you will appreciate it!
Top 3 recommendations:
1. Ginseng Strip: Not necessarily my favorite but is one of his most iconic songs, it captures well the type of music Yung Lean was making in his early career.
2. Blue Plastic: A more recent song of his and a personal favorite, good example of how much his singing has developed, how his songwriting has evolved, how much more instrumental / lyrical depth his songs have, etc.
3. Agony: Captures a really important part of his career / life path... one the more vulnerable / unique songs he's released.
P.S. If you're into this kind of stuff, the documentary "In My Head" offers context to what was going on during the the production of most of his work up until 2018-ish (I think).
Also, thanks for the great video, 10/10 :)
Edit: Messed up the name for Blue Plastic earlier, lol - was watching David Lynch earlier this week and had Blue Velvet on my mind.
most important songs are agony - ginseng strip - hotel in minsk
and död mark - min dag if you want to hear him sing in swedish
21:07 "pupils getting bigger" not puke ahahaha
Listened to your album. Really enjoyed it and i understand the similarities you made to this music. And i think it kinda has the same essence. very cool
1. Hoover
2. Eye Contact
3. Hennessey & Sailor Moon
Sadboys and Drain Gang have been really good friends since their early years, they havebeencooperating their whole career. So SBE includes Yung Lean and two producers Yung Gud and Yung Sherman (who is also a drain gang member), and Drain Gang has Bladee, Ecco2k, Thaiboy Digital and Whitearmor(producer)
great video! my 3 essential Yung lean songs would be Kyoto, agony, and Miami ultras
Not only was Yung Lean's dad a translator, he was a translator of French Literature (according to Wikipedia).
You should have a sit-down talk with Yung Lean and his dad. It should be a great conversation.
Im a proud Sadboyz/Drain gang since 2012, and recently turn into a Dadboy in feb 13 2022. Life is amazing. Bliss trip/fields.
great review, super cool hearing a different perspective on his music. and btw on lips he says "pupils getting bigger" not puke lol.
Top 3 songs under name Yung Lean:
3. Silicon Wings
2. Buildings ft. Bladee & Thaiboy Digital
1. Yellowman
Worth mentioning: Stars Align, Don't Go, Volt, French Hotel, Hellraiser, Hennessy & Sailor Moon, Put Me in a Spell, Lightsaber // Saviour, Heal You // Bladerunner, trashy, bender++girlfriend, Miami Ultras, Smirnoff Ice, Pikachu, Hoover, Sandman, Eye Contact, Af1s, Hocus Pocus, Head 2 Toe, Metallic Intuition, Silver Arrows, Low (random order)
Oh shit i forgot to mention Diamonds, besides being amazing song it has one of the most beautiful music videos ive ever seen
great review!
This is a good alternative to needledrop. Great experience, thank you.
yung lean is a super versatile artist, his sound has undergone an insane progression over the years, yet his music always seems to be ahead of the curve and timeless in the larger lense of hip hop. it's also important to remember that his influence and impact mainly apply to the underground scene and what is now known as "melodic" or "emo" hip hip, which can then be attributed as a natural progression from kanye's 808s and heartbreaks.
Pocket full of beans, it’s Yung lean
In order to fully understand Yung lean, I believe that music videos played a major role in the whole package that is Yung lean and early cloud rap. Also, the “in my head” documentary helps answer many of your questions on Yung lean (highly recommend).
3 must watch music videos:
Kyoto
Miami Ultras
Hurt
Myself, and most other sadboys wouldn’t have found or more importantly, connected with Yung lean if it weren’t for these videos. I would also recommend looking into some newer songs, but I find this era to be the most influential on cloud rap.
So glad you checked this out!
1. Solarflare
2. Sunrise Angel
3. Stay Down
extra recommendations.
Highway Patrol, Leanworld, Ice Cold Smoke
also review older albums from yung lean and drain gang
Agony
Put Me In A Spell
Starz
Pocket full of B's "big faces aka bills "or pills or blunts I'm guessing. Im also just got in to lean the past year he's amazing I soo glad to hear your opinions on this album. I'm also a dad boy... And ain't nothing better then recording on a 4 track. Reminds me of my high school
The top 3 Yung lean songs you should listen to:
red bottom sky
agony
Boylife in eu
Yung Lean songs: diamonds, afganastan, motorola, lightsaber, roses, ice cold smoke, king of darkness, crystal city, wasted, taipei, dont go, muddy sea, iceman, monster, volt, Gatorade, vfiles live set --- review all those -- for a fair review of Leany the Legend
Plz listen to Starz it’s my favorite yunglean project and is different due to a very high production and psychedelic vibe
I really enjoy you're channel because I think you do a much better job of looking at music for what it is than a typical music review channel where some white dude rates an album out of 10 and that's the end of the day. While sometimes you say something that makes me laugh, I think that overall the fact that you take all the music you listen to seriously definitely pays off, and so you're videos are really enjoyable to watch thru. Would be interested in your opinion on older Bladee album or even other artists like Burial (your vid on anti dawn was great). Although to be fair, when you listen to most of Burial's music, the vibe is fairly obvious and it doesn't take the same level of effort, in my opinion, to decipher as drain gang and yung lean typically post to new listeners. Not sure if you would be open to doing music that isn't more or less brand new though.
Dadboy is such an oxymoronix phrase. Only Prof Skye could gift the English Language with such a phrase
Red Bottom Sky, Starz, Kyoto, Yoshi City, Miami Ultras, Hennessy & Sailor Moon, Agony, Boylife in the EU, Bliss
Great review! Definitely would recommend Billy Woods newest album Aethiopes
Also, the Sadboys are Yung Lean's crew, consisting of Lean and his two producers and good friends Gud and Yung Sherman. Sherman is also in Drain Gang, but he is the only member to be in both groups, with Bladee, Ecco2k, Thaiboy Digital, and Whitearmor making up the rest of Drain Gang.
Lean’s early songs are verrry influenced by clams casino and asap rocky’s early work. As he progressed he has found his own voice and experimented with new sounds on pretty much every album.
To recommend three songs, I’d say ginseng strip (early style), Hoover (hype banger), and agony (sad, spacy, moody). Also his album Starz is my personal favorite rn
Drain Gang is Bladee, Ecco2K, Thaiboy Digital, and Whitearmor. Sad Boys is Yung Lean and Gud. Yung Sherman is part of both collectives I think.
Recently I watched an interview with Zdzisław Beksiński where he talks about his work and discusses art as more of a mood or essence and not the comparative or literal. I was reminded of this when you said Lean's lyrics aren't always the main point in the aura he creates.
Some Yung Lean songs-
Hunting My Own Skin
french hotel
Boylife in EU
Kyoto
Hennessy & Sailor Moon
Agony
+ Violence if you wanna hear more
Not super super familiar with Lean but I think these 3 (+ Violence) are pretty exemplary of Lean’s evolution musically in all ways. Great video!
I’d say 3 songs to listen by Lean are Kyoto, Red Bottom Sky and Hennessy & Sailor Moon.
Honorable mentions: Ginseng Strip 2002, Yoshi City, Agony, Miami Ultras, Boylife In EU.
I'd really recommend watching his documentary 'In My Head' if you want to know more about him and his rise in music !
Going chronologically, my top 3 of his would be Kyoto, Agony, and Summer Rain
Some of my fav yung lean songs are probably sandman, hocus pocus, iceman, pikachu, boylife in EU, volt, yellow man, miami ultras and bender++girlfreind. And on the sad boys/drain gang thing, the sadboys are yung lean + producers gud and yung sherman, and drain gang are bladee, ecco2k, thaiboy digital + producers whitearmor and also yung sherman
and also you should watch the In My Head decomentary to understand more about him
I LOVE LEAN! I LOVE SKYE
Ginseng Strip 2002, Oreomilkshake, and Hurt are mint OG Lean, with Yoshi City, Kyoto, and Hennessy & Sailor Moon being a little older but still bang.
Ginseng Strip 2002 is the essential and most influential cut, Kyoto is his best song by far in my opinion and either Red Bottom Sky/ Agony to get a feel for his progression
Definitely a lot of different responses for this since there's so much music. Mine are Bender++girlfriend, Butterfly Paralyzed, and Blue Plastic
In Lips the line he’s saying is actually “pupils getting bigger”
a lot of the accomplishments yung lean gets credited for can be traced back to Lil B, i would recommens checking out 6 Kiss as it's the first landmark to come out of the cloudy internet rap wave
The people from both groups came up together as a team, but originally yung lean sherman and gud formed Sad Boys , and Bladee Thaiboy Ecco and whitearmor , Gravity Boys/DG
i wouldnt exactly say its indicative of his entire catalogue, but the three songs that are Yung Lean for me are Starz (ft ariel pink), Red Bottom Sky, and Butterfly Paralyzed. (honorable mention: Chandelier) Something about how they make me feel calm while also having so much going on sonically really makes me happy and at peace listening to them. thats all fairly new though. to really understand how he's evolved, give Unknown Death 2002 a listen and then come back to some of the stuff off starz and Stardust
Hoover, Yellowman and My agenda are my favourites
The music video for Hurt basically changed my life. Listen to Hurt, Yoshi City, Kyoto, Red Bottom Sky, Agony, Highway Patrol, Hennessy and Sailor Moon, and Boylife in the EU. Those are some “Hits” but honestly he has a really good discog. If you can catch the vibe, Lean is very consistent with his projects.
Completely agree about the Hurt music video. Found it on my school chromebook and could not stop watching. 8 years later and it’s still a defining moment of my young life
Hi Prof Skye, would you consider reviewing Christian Lee Hutson’s new album ‘Quitters’? I’d love to hear your thoughts on it and the lyrics!
Top 3 essentials
1. Agony
2. Boylife in EU
3. Miami Ultras
💜
Please make a video recapping your full journey through all the Drain Gang/Sadboys albums and how your understanding of the music has changed.
We need an aethiopes review professor
imo volt, roses and classic ginseng strip 2002. you can pick kyoto for either one of them or just listen to all of them :D
I love seeing people in the comments recommending old music to the new music reviewer
1. Agony
2. Hennessy and Sailor Moon
3. Hurt
my personal favorite lean songs:
1. Red Bottom Sky
2. Yayo
3. Boylife in EU
HM to Hoover which is still such a unique track in his discog
Just in time for lunch!
If you want some good Norwegian language rap I can recommend Lars Vaular, Karpe and Cezinando. For what it's worth I also make music in Norwegian, but I have a hard time recommending myself.
His album, Warlord, is a must listen
You should listen to his side project Jonatan Leandoer96
imo the most important lean songs are diamonds, agony, and bender++girlfriend are the 3 that really got me into him after listening; i wouldnt say that these songs are necessarily his most influential, but i think they start to show his evolution as an artist. miami ultras and diamonds are definitely interchangeable to show his earlier stages
You should do a review of Bladee’s 333 album I really think you would enjoy it
"Sad Boys = Yung Lean, Gud, Yung Sherman
Drain Gang (aka Gravity Boys Shield Gang) = Bladee, Ecco2k, Thaiboy Digital, Whitearmor, Yung Sherman.
They're both from Stockholm and longtime friends and collaborators."
Taken from Reddit ^
Also I appreciate your immediate interest in Yung Lean, after listening to a few more of his songs like you asked from the comments I think the documentary "Yung Lean: In My Head" which released just a lil over a year ago would be up your alley, it's over on the Noisey RUclips channel.
agony, yellowman and kyoto
16:10 Icy like seaworld could be a ref to dirty fanta, aka lean juice or the pink diamonds/cartier references from the other tracks too. Fame and drugs, in a double entendre perhaps?
_Edit: I thought that he could be referencing a whale too, as he makes a link to crypto in a later track too. It's all connected and cross referenced, I've found!_
Also, really enjoying the content, I'll be sticking around
Red bottom sky, Agony, and Leanworld
Love your video!!! On "Lips" he says "Pupils getting bigger" not "Puke" 💚🌹💚
Hello Professor. I thought about your homework assignment and the nature of your request (besides the video engagement metrics). I hope the following outline will help you understand the 2003 Tokyo phenomenon.
I picked out three songs I feel exemplify the unique dynamics that allowed a baby-faced boy from a middle-class family coming of age in a wealthy Scandinavian country to fly in the face of propriety which is accustomed to defining the typical disadvantaged background that normally pervades the mainstream hip-hop essence and permits the rap artists' authenticity and legitimacy within the genre.
Gatorade
Lightsaber // Saviour
Hurt
In my opinion these works are the seminal influence and moreover, serve as the perfect representation of the cheeky, coy, and ironic portrayal of the era he embraced like an untapped resource.
pockets full of beans - pills
Some pretty boomer takes on this one Professor Skye
BLADEEEEEE
Red bottom sky, Ginseng Strip 2002, and agony are the 3 vital yung lean songs