Rear quarter view says otherwise, to the untrained eye you'd struggle to separate the two cars: www.flickr.com/photos/19bozzy92/23688558051/ The GT is not even classified as an exotic to begin with.
@@Alby911 huh? Neither is the 911 Turbo. Most reviewers call the AMG GTR/GTC a super car and compare it to a 911 GT3/GT3 Touring. Schmee had both. Guess which one he sold?? (Hint: the manufacturer starts with a P).
@@Fluterra The OP described the the AMG as much more exotic; which really isn't the case. Aside from the longer front end of the AMG, the silhouette is similar. Exotic is reserved for the likes of Ferrari and Lamborghini. I'm not sure what relevance Schmee has in this topic; is he some sort of 'be all and end all' when it come to cars?
@@Alby911 the thing is this is a GTC, which at the rear is a whole 3 inches wider. And believe be in person, the rest of the GTC looks absolutely wicked. GTC also gets an electronic limited slip diff, and 4 wheel steering, the latter of which the GT S and GT don’t have.
Totally agree - the pre facelift interior is MUCH better. The “v8” design is now lost, and the new dials and switches feel really cheap. This is a miss on an otherwise outstanding car.
Fluterra I agree - I have the 2106 amg gt s - I really like the console, the steering wheel. The front end - etc It’s a fantastic car, I bought it when they came out I don’t really like the new updates Cheers 🌚
“Gains on the 911”?! It has SURPASSED the 911. I test drove a 992 911 and it was a COMPLETE BORE complained to my AMG GTC. Thought I would love the 992. Couldn’t wait to return it.
Last month I drove an AMG GT C and a 911 991.2 back to back along some mountain roads (Colorado).. About 30 miles in each car... I thought the AMG was great .. 'til I drove the 911. The AMG felt like I was driving in the back seat, way too much hood in front. AMG handling was numb and the car felt heavy compared to the 911 and very claustrophobic interior compared to the 911. I'd really never spent much time in a 911 and was so impressed! I think Mercedes has a looong way to go.
@@DavidBoy333 No it won't. The only comparable is the AMG SLS, which has actually appreciated in value. I 911 will lose more than half its value in 5-6 years.
Excellent video! I really love the styling of the AMG GT. That long hood has such a striking initial impression! Also, I agree with what you're saying about the center console technology updates. While they may be super cool to show off to your passengers, there is less of that tactile feel (which entices you to glance at the center console to ensure you selected the correct thing). All in all, GREAT video of an awesome car. Very entertaining and informative. Well done!
Coleman's analogy is great comedy. It's like comparing a flamingo to a Grizzly Bear. I have the exact same cheap IKEA shelves. Yes that thin piece of cardboard does stop the flimsy shelves from flopping around, but it's not a 3800 pound beast that does 5Gs in every direction with a top speed of almost 200 mph.
The Colemans part cracked me, especially when his better half opened the door for him lol. You, you good you . . . ;) I love that they gave the C a widebody to distinguish it from the base GT & the S. By the way, did they ever tell you what the C stands for? I completely agree regarding the buttons. Between the buttons and the grille, I prefer the prefacelift GT to be honest. At 180k we're no longer talking Carrera money, that's almost Bentley money! And I can't think of a better GT on sale today than the new Continental (aside from the $350k GTC4Lusso) As always, excellent work, M.
I've owned a 718 S & 997.2 Turbo. Currently own a 2018 GTC roadster. The GTC blows both out the water when it comes to an exciting drive experience. Do miss my Turbo though.
3:00 Reminder for people to not go to Palos Verdes at night time lmao. I remember falling down one of those road dips one time in college. Thought i was going into a black hole. Doesn't help that there are no lights on that road.
While I find it humorous that you are asking a guy that plays with cars and planes for a living about something practical, I have to say it indeed is . . .
I would take a 911 Carrera S over a GTC, but the V8 has a visceral sound. Wish I could justify owning something at that price point, or didn't have to justify it.
It's not just that the engine is so far back, but it's a transaxle car. so the weight of the gearbox is behind you. just like Aston Martin, Ferrari, and yes, Corvettes
Uniquely stunning vehicle for those with the cash. I'd buy one to sit next to my 12 year old diesel Mercedes SUV daily driver once my net worth exceeds $10M. Agreed would prefer wood interior.
Well I've actually driven this and I've been waiting over 5 years for something that truly represents a legitimate imrovement on my 2003 CL55 'Big Belt' McLaren with 635 bhp and 590ft/lb of torque and... it doesn't 'get it' so sticking with what I got given the CL does 0-60 3.68sec and 0-100 in 5.8sec... How much more do we really need...... Thanks AMG
But MB gauges and switches are so cool ... if poor ergonomic design. BMW on the other hand is "boring" because they nailed good ergonomic cabin instrument layout decades ago and only refine it slightly every couple of years. BMW does not change it for mere fashion or video game parlor appeal. It always has to help with driving while the driver is in motion and looking at the road.
Nice review, but this car does not have the High End Burmester. The speaker grills would be metal. And it’s worth the $4500 cost - I’ve heard both and the High End is much much better.
Mercedes is starting to design attractive cars again. Why does this 4.0 TT V8 have only 502 lb/ft of torque? I know these engineers are great at maxing out power for a given displacement. That number seems low for the size. I wonder if they are purposely dialing back the power for some reason. Gotta give them credit for keeping the wheel size no greater then 20.
Yes this Benz if you see it in person, has that super car appeal. When i didn´t care about cars a few yeasrs ago i thougt this was some 400k car. I was shocked to find out it is actually somewhat affordable. I can´t believe how many people with the money are deciding to be just another porsche 911 driver. And they don´t even use it on the track where it might be better.
The new console switches SUCK! They ruin the look of the “V8”, which was the intent of this car. In addition to the poor ergonomics with the touch pads. I agree with you, MotoMan!
timonxDlol not talking about driving dynamics. Not everybody has unlimited money or lives in SoCal, so a sports car with AWD kills two birds with one stone for a person that lives somewhere that gets snow/ice.
@@timothysmith7478 Well the funny thing is mainly in less snowy areas 4wd cars are bought and in more snowy areas more people drive 2wd cars. in 99% of the cases you easily get along with rwd in the winter. I also live somewhere snowy and I dont see a need for a 4wd even though we have one (one e coupe rwd and one glc 4wd). The 4wd accelerates better on snow, but once you hit a corner or have to brake they all behave the same. So for me it makes no real difference, because cornering and braking is the real problem. And if the weather is so bad that you cant drive with a 2wd car then you also cant really drive with a 4wd car. Thats my experience so far. And to be serious the amg gt is not thought as the customer´s only car and mainly performance oriented, even though it´s still luxorious and usable as a daily. I actually see quite a few driving around here near Stuttgart in Germany. Also during winter.
Looks like Coleman has the perfect wife. He designs, she drives 😁 When Mazda sort out wireless CarPlay and showing Apple maps in driver display as well as main screen as of iOS13 I will seriously consider a 6 estate. PS CarPlay looks good in GT such a shame all MBUX are now half screen. Really odd decision by MB
Two things: 1.) Yes, she is indeed the perfect wife for him. She is an honest to goodness stunt car driver. She writes for Donut Media and has cool cars of her own. She is even helping me convince him to buy an airplane! 2.) VERY disappointed in MB as of late with the half screen Apple CarPlay approach. Was perfect in the 2017 E but then they went backwards.
@Nomen Clature your handle is about as original as Mr. Rodgers' neck tie. I wonder once Tesla interior begins really catching up with legacy brands (which given it's Bauhaus minimalist design language ethic- it may not ever fully intend to do so in terms of buttons and actual leather etc) what then will Legacy fanboys complain of whilst Tesla literally will not only outhandle, outpace them, cost about 1/3rd to 1/2 to operate, AND be able to drive them anywhere legal and common? Haters going to hate period. Future is here, ICE cars almost dead.
@Nomen Clature That's great bring up 1 fail in what may have been some beta variant and let's compare to the plethora of ICE engine Legacy manufacturer's literally millions of well documented failures. By the way FWIW I am not a Tesla worshiper by any means. Many other legacy manufacturers are clearly going EV and not looking back very much. Great attempt to divert attention to a problem that is so isolated and somewhat unclear to all the telemetry and Tesla systems internal data for the car involved with Motoman. By the way I love his channel. Cheers. Not trying to start a war but you called me out not vice versa.
@Nomen Clature You must be a shill. I can assure you ICE car legacy manufacturers have made ZILLIONS of mistakes before you ever reached puberty. Tesla has only existed a tiny fraction of the time Ford or Mercedes has for example and is now the largest car maker on earth by a huge margin when judging by non state owned and by gross margin cap oh and uh,...they are profitable.
Dude......your fu¢kin hilarious‼️....a well spoken and informative review however. Haahaa..." ALOT of small change DOES add up!!! Yeahhh....180k worth huh?
At the end of the day its still a heavy V8 sled and you pay for it in every way. Mercedes needs to go back to their 300 SL roadster. Less fast but more in tune with the original lightweight formula.
This thing is a million times better than any 911. Who would want to buy a 911 when they have look the same for the last 30 years? Porsche is in the Dark Ages when it comes to styling. They're four door sedans look horrible. The 911's have looked the same for way too long, and now they put a 4-cylinder in the Boxster and the Cayman. What a joke.
@@sirgeorgioalastrata4104 nonsense. The new 911 is just as but now and vaping and boring as the 911 has been for 30 years. Who cares about how quick a car is on a racetrack? How often is the average owner going to go to a race track? The answer is never. Who cares if a car is a half a second quicker to 60 miles per hour? How often is the average owner going to gun the car like that? The answer is not often. 0 to 60 is a stupid antiquated test. Which car would a person rather have in their driveway? The rare and beautiful Mercedes or the common and Antiquated and banal and ubiquitous 911? The answer is obvious.
Uh uh uh . . . About that 'drives itself' bit. Repeat after me: 'There is no such thing as a self driving car'. Should have any complaints, speak to these guys: www.sae.org/news/press-room/2018/12/sae-international-releases-updated-visual-chart-for-its-%E2%80%9Clevels-of-driving-automation%E2%80%9D-standard-for-self-driving-vehicles
Another Tesla guy...it overheats if you romp on it, real leather is no longer an option, you must find a V3 charging station or wait hours to "fuel" up, interior is government issue...I have no idea why anyone would want one of these vacuum cleaners simply because they are fast in a straight line but have the personality of drywall.
I’d easily have this over the 911. So much more character, more exotic looking, much better sounding.
And the new 911Turbo S costs 70k MORE. Is the 911 worth the extra 70k.....
Rear quarter view says otherwise, to the untrained eye you'd struggle to separate the two cars:
www.flickr.com/photos/19bozzy92/23688558051/
The GT is not even classified as an exotic to begin with.
@@Alby911 huh? Neither is the 911 Turbo. Most reviewers call the AMG GTR/GTC a super car and compare it to a 911 GT3/GT3 Touring. Schmee had both. Guess which one he sold?? (Hint: the manufacturer starts with a P).
@@Fluterra The OP described the the AMG as much more exotic; which really isn't the case. Aside from the longer front end of the AMG, the silhouette is similar. Exotic is reserved for the likes of Ferrari and Lamborghini. I'm not sure what relevance Schmee has in this topic; is he some sort of 'be all and end all' when it come to cars?
@@Alby911 the thing is this is a GTC, which at the rear is a whole 3 inches wider. And believe be in person, the rest of the GTC looks absolutely wicked. GTC also gets an electronic limited slip diff, and 4 wheel steering, the latter of which the GT S and GT don’t have.
Finally some better rim designs - hated the old design - now the car looks so much better
Totally agree - the pre facelift interior is MUCH better. The “v8” design is now lost, and the new dials and switches feel really cheap. This is a miss on an otherwise outstanding car.
Fluterra I agree - I have the 2106 amg gt s - I really like the console, the steering wheel. The front end - etc
It’s a fantastic car, I bought it when they came out
I don’t really like the new updates
Cheers 🌚
3:11 WTF 😀😃😄😆😅😂🤣 I replayed that part too many times. "Damping"
“Gains on the 911”?! It has SURPASSED the 911. I test drove a 992 911 and it was a COMPLETE BORE complained to my AMG GTC. Thought I would love the 992. Couldn’t wait to return it.
Last month I drove an AMG GT C and a 911 991.2 back to back along some mountain roads (Colorado).. About 30 miles in each car... I thought the AMG was great .. 'til I drove the 911. The AMG felt like I was driving in the back seat, way too much hood in front. AMG handling was numb and the car felt heavy compared to the 911 and very claustrophobic interior compared to the 911. I'd really never spent much time in a 911 and was so impressed! I think Mercedes has a looong way to go.
Must be great getting to test drive both cars
yeah. plus that this car will depreciate wayyy faster than any 911
AGREED. porsche better
Good comparison.
Thanx‼️
@@DavidBoy333 No it won't. The only comparable is the AMG SLS, which has actually appreciated in value. I 911 will lose more than half its value in 5-6 years.
Excellent video! I really love the styling of the AMG GT. That long hood has such a striking initial impression!
Also, I agree with what you're saying about the center console technology updates. While they may be super cool to show off to your passengers, there is less of that tactile feel (which entices you to glance at the center console to ensure you selected the correct thing).
All in all, GREAT video of an awesome car. Very entertaining and informative. Well done!
Thank you, sir! Great meeting you at the Miami Auto Show.
Passenger singular ;)
@@hardchemist, Hahaha! True! You can only bring one friend along for the ride in this 911 competitor. 🤣
@@MotoManTV, Yes! It was great meeting you, as well. Hope we meet again, good sir! :)
Coleman's analogy is great comedy. It's like comparing a flamingo to a Grizzly Bear. I have the exact same cheap IKEA shelves. Yes that thin piece of cardboard does stop the flimsy shelves from flopping around, but it's not a 3800 pound beast that does 5Gs in every direction with a top speed of almost 200 mph.
Great looking car. Don’t like the hooligan sound vs the 911 roar. You have always been spot on. Not today. 911 is still the King by far.
The Colemans part cracked me, especially when his better half opened the door for him lol. You, you good you . . . ;)
I love that they gave the C a widebody to distinguish it from the base GT & the S. By the way, did they ever tell you what the C stands for?
I completely agree regarding the buttons. Between the buttons and the grille, I prefer the prefacelift GT to be honest.
At 180k we're no longer talking Carrera money, that's almost Bentley money! And I can't think of a better GT on sale today than the new Continental (aside from the $350k GTC4Lusso)
As always, excellent work, M.
I've owned a 718 S & 997.2 Turbo. Currently own a 2018 GTC roadster. The GTC blows both out the water when it comes to an exciting drive experience. Do miss my Turbo though.
Your test car does not have the Burmester High End, so not sure why it’s on the option list.
Probably the best sports car in the world
3:00 Reminder for people to not go to Palos Verdes at night time lmao. I remember falling down one of those road dips one time in college. Thought i was going into a black hole. Doesn't help that there are no lights on that road.
Those wheels are gorgeous.
So which do you prefer this or a 911 Carerra 4S ? ? ?
How good is the chrome and red packaging
Thus car is beautiful and not made for rubes or slackers.
They certainly upped the game in the styling and dynamic department.
I think that it the 911 are my dream cars.
Beautiful car,but Porsche 911 will forever stay the king in this kingdom
I came for the car but I stayed for the airplanes.
I did the same:)
Owner of 2018 amg GT roadster. White with black rims. Planning to wrap with satin black
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MotoManTV, is it comfortable enough for daily use?
While I find it humorous that you are asking a guy that plays with cars and planes for a living about something practical, I have to say it indeed is . . .
Haha I love the ikea analogy.
The MB is beautiful!
if this car was all wheel drive then the 0-60 would be sub 3 seconds, maybe 2.5 this thing could be a supercar
Fantastic video as always. Thank you!
I would take a 911 Carrera S over a GTC, but the V8 has a visceral sound.
Wish I could justify owning something at that price point, or didn't have to justify it.
Which exterior colour name?
It's not just that the engine is so far back, but it's a transaxle car. so the weight of the gearbox is behind you. just like Aston Martin, Ferrari, and yes, Corvettes
Uniquely stunning vehicle for those with the cash. I'd buy one to sit next to my 12 year old diesel Mercedes SUV daily driver once my net worth exceeds $10M. Agreed would prefer wood interior.
Ohhhh WOW!!!!… I have two King Charles’s, Miss Chloe and Miss Coco.
Your King Charles is so adorable! I
Used GTC or new c8 stingray?
Really?
Well I've actually driven this and I've been waiting over 5 years for something that truly represents a legitimate imrovement on my 2003 CL55 'Big Belt' McLaren with 635 bhp and 590ft/lb of torque and... it doesn't 'get it' so sticking with what I got given the CL does 0-60 3.68sec and 0-100 in 5.8sec... How much more do we really need...... Thanks AMG
911S for me !
But MB gauges and switches are so cool ... if poor ergonomic design.
BMW on the other hand is "boring" because they nailed good ergonomic cabin instrument layout decades ago and only refine it slightly every couple of years. BMW does not change it for mere fashion or video game parlor appeal. It always has to help with driving while the driver is in motion and looking at the road.
You didn’t mention anything about the infotainment????
FYI : the 911 4S 2020 (992) does 0-100 in the 3.4 seconds
3.0 sec flat according to the car wow review online
Nice review, but this car does not have the High End Burmester. The speaker grills would be metal. And it’s worth the $4500 cost - I’ve heard both and the High End is much much better.
Mercedes is starting to design attractive cars again. Why does this 4.0 TT V8 have only 502 lb/ft of torque? I know these engineers are great at maxing out power for a given displacement. That number seems low for the size. I wonder if they are purposely dialing back the power for some reason.
Gotta give them credit for keeping the wheel size no greater then 20.
hockeymann88 maybe to keep the wheels planted on acceleration?
the ecu tuned(only) ones have more or less 575 hp and tq. so the base models are sandbagged from factory
And the knobs WERE so much cooler
Which car will spend more time with a mechanic?
Looks way better on the road than most 911s. I'd pick an LC500 (even if I like the GTC way more).
Can't argue with an LC 500 . . .
Yes this Benz if you see it in person, has that super car appeal. When i didn´t care about cars a few yeasrs ago i thougt this was some 400k car. I was shocked to find out it is actually somewhat affordable. I can´t believe how many people with the money are deciding to be just another porsche 911 driver. And they don´t even use it on the track where it might be better.
Fckng hell at 7:50, Dow that Track , thunderstorm
You should show the weight of the vehicle
The 2019 and earlier interior is WAY nicer and more ergonomic.
The new console switches SUCK! They ruin the look of the “V8”, which was the intent of this car. In addition to the poor ergonomics with the touch pads. I agree with you, MotoMan!
Haha you're better of with that lovely Mazda ;) The Merc kind of looks like if a Crossfire had sex with a beetle.
Beautiful car.
The Rear end I see is inspired by Porsche 🤔
For that price I ll rather buy a used huracan .... that's me
Coleman looking for Mazdaspeed inspirations!
Beautiful car. But isn't this the sophomore effort and the SLS was the freshman?
This test car does not have the Burmester High End system. It’s well worth the ~$4500!
Hahahahaha, 911?! Please... a 911 is a 911... this isn’t.
Needs AWD as an option to contend with the 911
Timothy Smith not really. It drives perfectly fine as rwd car.
timonxDlol not talking about driving dynamics. Not everybody has unlimited money or lives in SoCal, so a sports car with AWD kills two birds with one stone for a person that lives somewhere that gets snow/ice.
@@timothysmith7478 Well the funny thing is mainly in less snowy areas 4wd cars are bought and in more snowy areas more people drive 2wd cars. in 99% of the cases you easily get along with rwd in the winter. I also live somewhere snowy and I dont see a need for a 4wd even though we have one (one e coupe rwd and one glc 4wd). The 4wd accelerates better on snow, but once you hit a corner or have to brake they all behave the same. So for me it makes no real difference, because cornering and braking is the real problem. And if the weather is so bad that you cant drive with a 2wd car then you also cant really drive with a 4wd car. Thats my experience so far. And to be serious the amg gt is not thought as the customer´s only car and mainly performance oriented, even though it´s still luxorious and usable as a daily. I actually see quite a few driving around here near Stuttgart in Germany. Also during winter.
After Coleman drove this I hope he realizes Mazda needs desperately a transmission with more than 6 gears...
He knew that long before I handed over the keys to this car:)
This is a more desirable car than a 911
i would take an SLS with capristo exhaust any day over this.
uhh try again bro. www.ebay.ca/itm/2012-Mercedes-Benz-SLS-AMG-2dr-Roadster-SLS-AMG/233407194427?hash=item365827253b:g:Td8AAOSwnhdd0sFy
you are thinking of the slr mercedes
@@rushgush no probably the sls coupe cause of the gullwing. price difference between them and the convertibles is wow.
My non-carguy friend calls this car "dong car"
lol Don't show him a pic of the SLS.
I bought this over a 991.2 or 992 911.
Solarbeam yellow
Not gaining on the turbo S
Looks like Coleman has the perfect wife. He designs, she drives 😁 When Mazda sort out wireless CarPlay and showing Apple maps in driver display as well as main screen as of iOS13 I will seriously consider a 6 estate. PS CarPlay looks good in GT such a shame all MBUX are now half screen. Really odd decision by MB
Two things:
1.) Yes, she is indeed the perfect wife for him. She is an honest to goodness stunt car driver. She writes for Donut Media and has cool cars of her own. She is even helping me convince him to buy an airplane!
2.) VERY disappointed in MB as of late with the half screen Apple CarPlay approach. Was perfect in the 2017 E but then they went backwards.
@@MotoManTV I didn't even scrape the front once! Wishful thinking about the airplane bit, though.
Chill with the loud ass alarm...
You need to record your voice better it is really had to understand you.
This sport car from Mercedes Looking fucking Sexy and beautiful.
Dehseeenyóh
Tesla Model S Plaid edition will likely do 0-60 in 2.2 and cost about 50k less than this. Check please.
@Nomen Clature your handle is about as original as Mr. Rodgers' neck tie. I wonder once Tesla interior begins really catching up with legacy brands (which given it's Bauhaus minimalist design language ethic- it may not ever fully intend to do so in terms of buttons and actual leather etc) what then will Legacy fanboys complain of whilst Tesla literally will not only outhandle, outpace them, cost about 1/3rd to 1/2 to operate, AND be able to drive them anywhere legal and common? Haters going to hate period. Future is here, ICE cars almost dead.
@Nomen Clature That's great bring up 1 fail in what may have been some beta variant and let's compare to the plethora of ICE engine Legacy manufacturer's literally millions of well documented failures. By the way FWIW I am not a Tesla worshiper by any means. Many other legacy manufacturers are clearly going EV and not looking back very much. Great attempt to divert attention to a problem that is so isolated and somewhat unclear to all the telemetry and Tesla systems internal data for the car involved with Motoman. By the way I love his channel. Cheers. Not trying to start a war but you called me out not vice versa.
@Nomen Clature You must be a shill. I can assure you ICE car legacy manufacturers have made ZILLIONS of mistakes before you ever reached puberty. Tesla has only existed a tiny fraction of the time Ford or Mercedes has for example and is now the largest car maker on earth by a huge margin when judging by non state owned and by gross margin cap oh and uh,...they are profitable.
150 grand is justified.
I thought GTC was convertible ....
Rahul Menon its the gtS
Not a fan. I really don't like the interior.
Throughout most of the video your microphone really sucks. Makes it hard to watch the video.
Dude......your fu¢kin hilarious‼️....a well spoken and informative review however.
Haahaa..." ALOT of small change DOES add up!!!
Yeahhh....180k worth huh?
At the end of the day its still a heavy V8 sled and you pay for it in every way. Mercedes needs to go back to their 300 SL roadster. Less fast but more in tune with the original lightweight formula.
I love it but I think the 911 will age better in the long term
Lol age better😂 Mercs are far better than ugly VW beetle Porsches
It's still ugly
This thing is a million times better than any 911. Who would want to buy a 911 when they have look the same for the last 30 years? Porsche is in the Dark Ages when it comes to styling. They're four door sedans look horrible. The 911's have looked the same for way too long, and now they put a 4-cylinder in the Boxster and the Cayman. What a joke.
3.6 to 60 is a joke
New 911 is stunning and would most likely destroy this merc on the track, not sure what you're on about
@@sirgeorgioalastrata4104 nonsense. The new 911 is just as but now and vaping and boring as the 911 has been for 30 years. Who cares about how quick a car is on a racetrack? How often is the average owner going to go to a race track? The answer is never. Who cares if a car is a half a second quicker to 60 miles per hour? How often is the average owner going to gun the car like that? The answer is not often. 0 to 60 is a stupid antiquated test. Which car would a person rather have in their driveway? The rare and beautiful Mercedes or the common and Antiquated and banal and ubiquitous 911? The answer is obvious.
@@TheHomeExpert5 I guess to each their own
Tesla is faster cheaper and drives itself
Uh uh uh . . . About that 'drives itself' bit. Repeat after me: 'There is no such thing as a self driving car'. Should have any complaints, speak to these guys: www.sae.org/news/press-room/2018/12/sae-international-releases-updated-visual-chart-for-its-%E2%80%9Clevels-of-driving-automation%E2%80%9D-standard-for-self-driving-vehicles
Another Tesla guy...it overheats if you romp on it, real leather is no longer an option, you must find a V3 charging station or wait hours to "fuel" up, interior is government issue...I have no idea why anyone would want one of these vacuum cleaners simply because they are fast in a straight line but have the personality of drywall.