Tekken TAG Arcade vs PS2 Difference | Character Models
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- Опубликовано: 2 окт 2024
- Tekken TAG Tournament Arcade 1999 vs 2000 PS2 version.
Take a close look at the Tekken Tag Arcade version (1999) running on a Namco System 12 Arcade board, the same system as Tekken 3 ran on. The System 12 is slightly more powerful than the Playstation even though the Hardware is the same.
Tekken Tag on the arcade could have made it to the PS one with plat background droppings like Tekken 3 and heavy compression. But as we are more familiar with the game was released for the Playstation 2 with x4 better polygon count and visuals.
Let's compare Tekken tag arcade vs Tekken tag on Playstation 2! Are there any details on the Arcade version that was better than the PS2 version of the game? This is basically a PS1 vs PS2 where 32 bit meets 128 bit.
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Which character do you think had better colors or details than the PS2 version!?
PS2 version Anna Williams has creepy eyes that stare into the soul so I'd go for the Arcade version when it comes to her
Also Kuma and Panda have strangley more detail in their arcade counterparts you can see both their eyes and details on their clothes
Ps2 Better Graphics for sure
Psx based Arcade better designs on many
ps2 version is the most realistic tekken of all, the following tekken start to look more calicatura b, later adding cartoon ttt2 has a touch of cartoon, tekke x srteet fifghter a lot of cartoon, tk7 medium level of cartoon
ttt1 ps2 looks like people everything is a very realistic graphic, the wooden tarims look real, the metal d pjack looks real is something amazing ttt1 ps2 actually the best graphics of all tekkens
the arcade version looks like a hybrid of tekken 2 and tekken 3
Yeah, it's like they weren't sure how to make the Tekken 2 fighters look like Tekken 3!
Jun's design and name was in the Tekken 3 beta but they axed it to bring in Jin and his orphan lore instead
The PS2 graphics have aged really well.
Absolutely!
60 fps too (at least in the Hybrid HD version)
@@crashpal every Tekken game runs at 60FPS (unless you are referring to NTSC vs PAL difference).
I still love and play PS2 today. Sony used to be great.
The graphical leap from PS1 to PS2 was mind boggling.
3:03 so this is how kazuya's design would look if he had appeared in tekken 3 🤔🤔 interesting
They looked very impressive for the time and were suprisingly highly realistic. Man the arcade soundtrack is so underrated.
right, they did a good job on the characters, and the music is really great, too bad, there was so selection of arranging and original in the options menu like Tekken 1, 2, or 3!
Yeah should've at least include the soundtrack ps2 DVD had plenty of disk memory
@@crashpal I think they removed it due to the fact they wanted to move on technologically, by not having midi soundtrack on ps2. But yes it sad, it should had be an optional thing
I tbh honestly kinda find a odd charm of these 2000s games visuals .
Some imo look pretty alright and I tbh would make a game with a inbetween ps2 and wii poly graphics for some indie projects .
@@RisingUppercut I know that's such a shame you couldn't play the arcade ost in the ps2 version. They didn't even add that feature for the HD version.
Fun Fact : for PS2 port developers created even smallest details for character models like teeth and mouth animations, in comparison some PS2 models like Lei and Jin have more polygons on their mouth then their whole character model in Arcade version
The game was really pushed on this System 12 (Playstation 1) hardware!
@@RisingUppercut this game was basically stress test for System 12, i read somewhere that higher ups at Bandai Namco wanted to test how System 12 could run models from system 11(tekken1 & 2) they liked it and ordered this to be a sort of expansion pack for Tekken 3, which would have rolled out as an upgrade to tekken 3 in arcades, couple of months later it was decided to be a fully flashed out game. I still cant believe how can system 12 run game with so many characters with 4 or 5 different costumes, special animations and altered stages. This game truly deserves all the praise it gets
@@RetroRonnin absolutely. I did forever wish they released an arcade history with Tekken tag arcade. Just like Tekken history games in Tekken 5
@@RisingUppercut That would have been nice, for me personally it has unique aesthetic that PS2 port does not have, like altered stages, costumes and music that is similar yet different from Tekken 3 gives really surreal feeling to the game, much like Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection.
Seeing Tekken 2 characters with a Tekken 3 poly count feels weirdly cursed.
Right!? Glad it wasn't just me. XD Same thing goes for the Tag specific 3rd and 4th colors being shown in T3 poly form.
it is SO interesting to see Tekken 2 characters with Tekken 3 graphics. I wish they would give us arcade Tag 1 in some way or an option to switch. I remember playing this in an Arcade when it came out
Yeah, I think the same when it comes to the T2 chars in the T3 engine, it's really interesting.
@Tekken Theatre Use a Mame Emulator, if you already know this then I am sorry, I just think I should help out of you want to experience the arcade version .
dont forget Tekken 1 characters, i want to see TK1 P-Jack
@Tekken Theatre I don't think that's the case because wrestling games can do 4 characters on screen at once even beat em up like fighting force or crisis beat done it plus it's a tag fighting not 2x2 at the same time.
Right? That’d be cool. You can emulate it, but wouldn’t it be dope for Arcade 1up to release Tag 1 along with 1, 2, and 3? Take my money. Lol
I still play this masterpiece on the PS2, even today! That's a game one can never get bored or tired to enjoy!
The PS2 version is still very impressive looking till this day
definitely!
The PS2 graphics were mindblowing and the general aesthetic is still better than T7 's overmuscular/oversexualized characters.
So true man! Tekken did base it design more on looking realistic than anime-ish as T7!
After 5 Dark Ressurection the models went downhill. Even Lei in Tekken 7 looks nothing like his previous incarnations
@@crashpal I fully agree, i think they did a lot of changes for 7, and also the body types got more overdone. T6 and T5 was the best character models
@@RisingUppercut 4 had good too like Paul's hair down, Marduk with long hair, Hwoarang with an army cut and soldier outfit and Jin having spiral gloves instead of dotted like Kazuya's
@@crashpal yeah remember those things made Tekken feel so fresh back then!
This game was basically the SoulCalibur 1 of the PS2
- Port of a Arcade game
- Improves visuals drastically while also adding extra content
- Launch Title
so true!
And only a year afterwards as well. Namco was cooking back in the late 90s early 2000s.
@@bigballzmcdrawz2921what about the mid to late 2000’s
@@osirismoorstage2.1 Ace Combat, 4, 5 & 0, considered the holy Trinity of the entire series. Tekken 5 & Tekken 5 Dark Resurrection. Soul Calibur 2 & 3, Dead 2 Rights series. (underrated would highly recommend trying them out if you haven't ) Namco was cooking like Heisenberg during that time period.
@@bigballzmcdrawz2921 What about Tekken 6 and soul calibur 4? Mario Kart GP? Dragon Ball Z Budokao Tenkaichii 1,2, and 3 Dbz raging blast 1 and 2? I’m talking about the era 2004-2009. Mid to late 2000’s
20 years later and Tekken Tag on the PS2 is still one of the BEST looking games of that generation. That and Gran Turismo 4 are neck and neck.
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Soul calibur 2 on Xbox is up there for me. I had PS2, but I had sc2 on the Xbox and it looked amazing
What about Twisted Metal or Soul Calibur? Or Tekken 4?
It may just be the nostalgia, but I personally prefer the arcade version. Some character’s faces look a little off (Law, Michelle, Jin for example), and the colors on certain alts like Jin’s red flames and Heihachi’s gold pants actually don’t look as good on PS2 as they do in the arcade. Plus, it’s super interesting to see Tekken 2 characters in the Tekken 3 style.
Did you know? In the arcade version of TTT, when you select Devil, his eyes roll back Undertaker style when he poses. This was only included in the arcade version.
Right, there are some detail that do stand out in the AC vers.
And the devil part I did not know!!
@@RisingUppercut Yep! I only knew about that after I emulated TTT on my arcade emulator. Another fun fact with Devil in the arcade version is that you cannot select Angel and Kazuya as a team, because the game automatically swaps Angel out for Devil. On the home console ports of TTT, they fixed that bug.
@@BrolyLSSJ01 oh wow, I really need to check those ones out!
@@BrolyLSSJ01 I have the same issue with Tekken Tag 1. I love the graphics on console. But the arcade version just feels more fun
Your comment’s wrong
I remember the first time I played TTT on PS2 back in the day. It was like day and night coming from T3. The graphical jumps from console generation to console generation don’t hit like they used to. Everything’s looked the same since the PS3/7th Generation to me.
The one drawback with the PS2 version of TTT was how they messed up/removed the P2/P4 outfits’ undershirts for Paul. As a Paul main, that still irks me to this day. lol
true that, i remember when ps2 to ps3 shift came, completely mindblowing! grew up with ps1 a bit somewhat aswell, and the differnce between ps1 and 2 was crazy aswell. you're right gpx dont feel all that much improved since ps3, at a eyeglance anyway. maybe its the type of games or something, gpx are better, its just not the leap it used to be, or it dosent feel that way like it used to.
Same with wwe smackdown just bring it from smackdown 2 know your role
Tekken 4 they looked real
I disagree in terms of graphics in each generation comment. 8th and 9th gen gave seen huge leaps forward in terms of graphics and frame rate
Fun fact: This game was supposed to be a sequel. But, due to the whole Jun/Unknown theory. It became a spin-off game
Thats really amazing!!
Cool, nice input!
Source? hmm that is interesting since the team that developed tag was way smaller then the team that created 3 and 4. I think tag would have always been a spin off. I do know people back then would mistake tag being a direct successor to 3. But if that was the case then that would be interestin.
@@s.khan5805 it was a long time ago. I can't find the website anymore. Maybe you can find it with a bit of research
@@s.khan5805 not answering your question here but I want to add that I also read once that tag was made due to huge success of Tekken 3, it was making big money. So, basically milking the game, creating tag, though tag came out great!
Just like street fighter 2 did with all their versions!
Also, if tag had come to the Ps1, I'm sure they will have sold better, as not everyone could afford the PS2 at the time.
This is how you do a remaster. Learn from this Rockstar :)
Kinda weird seeing Tekken 2 characters in T3 quality, but since this is a dream match game...
Right ? First time Kazuya and Jin were in the same game.
arcade is like tekken 3 but more characters
2:48 this is like watching Jun in Tekken 3 ❤️
Despite being only one year apart, the leap in graphics INSANE
The PS2 Version is very detailed and i like it!
Tekken Tag rocks!!! The best game of Tekken series. Awesome video by the way! 👍👍 Wish I can buy that original Namco system 12 arcade machine running Tekken Tag someday. 😃😃
That would be so cool, I which for something like that myself if I just had a bigger place to keep it!
I would rather buy a PS2 version and a dual shock 2
Arcade models are better in body proportions, for example Kazuya's arms and chest are more realistics in size in thr arcade version (white pants costume), in PS2 he looks too skinny
Bryan's head looks too big in PS2, Arcade models are much better, more realistic and enjoyable to play,
With the arcade version graphics, I always though that TTT will be released in PSOne.
Remember i was waiting badly for the PS one release to come along!
I never really noticed how the color palettes of certain characters varied drastically between the arcade and console version. One example would be Ancient Ogre at 4:19.
Also with his second outfit I even prefer the detail and pattern of his head piece on the arcade version over the console one.
I also never noticed that Julia wore a necklace on her college student attire! That was cool to find out. Also interesting design choice when it came to Anna as to them not bringing back her choker in the console version. I feel like since her upper body seems so empty that the choker was a nice little accessoire.
I absolutely love both versions of the game! I do have the actual arcade hardware and it actually does suffer from a bit of lag on certain stages. I actually owned two pcbs until I ended up selling one. I must say, I really enjoy the arcade music more than the console version, especially the music on unknown’s stage. Nice video bro! 😎
I missed out on this comment, but again thaks for sharing such enthusiasm on Tekke tag bro
Does the arcade cabinet jack up power bills? I always wanted the TTT1 Machine
1:29 The arcade version of Jin is full of masculinity.
Namco using Tekken 3's engine for the arcade version right?
Correct! System 12 arcade
Ps2 was revolutionary IMO, i got to play Tekken 3 and Tag [and i was 5]. it was bought for my elder sister.
I grew up with these and i still play these games. i have arcade machine.
Oh, happy to hear you could experience that too.
Yeah been playing these games too long myself, hehe, btw which arcade do you have?
@@RisingUppercut The retro one, AM2 Stand Up Arcade Machine
@@ShiniGamiAD sweet!
PS2 models look better than Arcade
Indeed, though arcade version had its charm, especially seeing T2 characters with T3 graphics
The arcade version is running on the same hardware as tekken 3, Namco's system 12. It's a souped up PS1
I wish we could have had Tekken Tag 1 on BOTH PS1 and PS2. I hope the arcade version could get a rerelease one day.
Also by the way due to the fact i havent play Tekken Tag 1 on PS2 in years and had to hold myself off with the arcade version, i never realized how big Forest and Hwoarang's heads were on PS2. Especially in comparison to the arcade counterparts.
Yeah hope to see an arcade collection or something one day!
Like a Tekken 1 to 5 at least!
weird how they made a tag 1 stick for ps1 i.ebayimg.com/images/g/WCEAAOSwqyRikxvt/s-l500.jpg, it seems like it couldve happend in theory. but ps1 had less ram than the arcade board, so they probably woudve skimped out on gpx quite a bit of they woudve ported it, if it coud even be done.
@@ps123fan idk the low ram would held back psx. sure it could handle the 3d stuff easy. but the tag mode is the problem. this is basically like xmen vs street fighter. Tekken Tag on ps1 ya it prob could have been done but with severe limitations...
resulting in something like the capcom vs games.
1:05- I just noticed that not only the Characters have facial Animations in the PS2/PS3 Version, but Paul has it too in the Arcade Version just for the Character Select Screen.
Law's expression also changed to a Bruce Lee scream when he did his 1+3 throw or sidestep 2,1,2,1. In general, Tekken had facial animation since Tekken 3 (even the PlayStation version, although only limited to blinking and closing eyes when hit or KO'd, and not on all characters).
@@WTFHAX93 Yeah, I noticed that when I was playing Tekken 3. Except with Forest Law's throw.
@@ElricSowrd That's what I was talking about. Forest is also in Tag.
@D F 2 It pretty much is. Same engine and graphics, with added Tekken 2 characters, updated movesets and mechanics. The stages are basically recolors of T3 stages (Unknown's stage is the only new stage, but that's just a floor texture in the Arcade version).
@D F 2 True, some stages are a bit more changed up, but they're pretty much still T3 stages, lightly edited. The game uses T3 as base, after all. There are screenshots of beta TTT, which show pretty much unchanged T3 interface, except for the TTT lifebars.
I like the PS2 version. The graphics are cool
so great for its time!
is just a ps2 remake from the arcade game
3:28 Jack-2 (arcade version) fighting stance too awkward xD
So basically Baek, Michelle, Kazuya Jun, Marshall Law, Bruce and Kunimitsu would have looked similar to their Tag 1 arcade models in Tekken 3 if they would had them included in T3. 🥲
Pretty much!
Marshall isn't in Tag 1
We didn't have many arcades or even single machines in my area back in the day but this was one we had briefly I would play this with my brother before he passed, love this game
Great memory!
Sorry for the loss.
holy fuck the PS2 rapes the arcade port
Also some character's hitboxes are different in PS2, for example Ogre's WS 3,3,d+3,3 in PS2 is more difficult to make the last kick to hit, in arcade almost everytime it hits
Yeah, that might be! There where probably some buff ect done for the PS2 vers!
The graphics on both versions look better then modern games today
Omg stop saying better than___ it's super annoying
better than😏
Arcade version is looks like PS1 version
That is right, it was produced in the same standards as Tekken 3!
Arcace has an aura to it but Ps2 version is clearly more polished although some faces look kinda off (Paul, Jin, Law etc)
Ps2 graphics are great but the arcade graphics give it that complete retro look ps1 feeling
Yes, I remember that.
Basically the arcade version are Tekken 3 models with few variant costumes.
But I think Tekken 1 and Tekken 2 exclusive characters had some custom models to match Tekken 3 style (for arcade version)
I remember the new models for console version were a big reason for me to buy this game...
Just remineder tekken tag ps2 size is just about 800mb, slightly bigger than tekken 3 on ps1. That's impressive the graphics is way better than tekken 3.
arcade much better... rey training have also... PS2 looks like Sega mega 64
PS2 graphics in general still impress me today in 2023, and this is coming from someone who was born in '96, so I really got to witness the evolution of 3D graphics throughout my lifetime
2:20 BALD! BALD! BALD! BALD!
Eu fico com a versão de Arcade. Até porque marcou a minha infância. 😃
alot of them were just tekken 3 models. Tag Tournament was just Tekken 3 with better graphics
It was Tekken 1( It has the replay and the same Ending Songs which is from Tekken 1 Arcade and Console Versions), Tekken 2 and Tekken 3 Combined.
@@hurricane7727 the character models are Tekken 3. Even the Tekken 1 and 2 models where made like Tekken 3. The graphics, the layout, the font in the game is all recycled Tekken 3.
@@NicholasSpeaks Tekken 2 Characters didn't Have Tekken 3 Models but Tekke. tag Ac was like if they were in Tekken 3 which was Cool. The Ko replay and Ending Song sounding the Same is like Tekken 1 Ac and Console( Tekken Tag Ac was a Updated Tekken 3). Weird the Modders couldn't just port juns model from this Game to Tekken where Her Portrait is.
Even the Arcade models dont look bad, they have pretty highly detailed models despite running on what is a slightly better PS1. Note the individual fingers on each hand. Most 3D PS1 games dont have that, Rival Schools in particular. But the PS2 models look amazing, and this was a launch title. It can afford to have high quality models since it doesnt have to render a whole lot at a time but there isnt that many other PS2 games that look this good
Tekken tag arcade best modèle bêta to port in PS1 and PC After Namco réalisé New carte graphique from PS2 creat remake modèle
Just got a cheap machine for emulation and it can run this. Was always more of a curiosity for me over anything else since the PS2 version is a thing but its so cool to see people like Kazuya, Lee and Armor King in a "what if they were in Tekken 3" sort of way (3 of my favourites that didn't make it into 3 lol)
2:34 They did Ganryu dirty. They had bros scar facing one direction in the arcade and another in console 💀💀
To me PlayStation two Baek and Bruce Irvin the best
ou seja TTT1 de arcade e basicamente um playstation 1 ja que o namco system 12 usa o mesmo processador do ps1
The quality jump is almost astounding!
But I feel some characters had a glow down when looking more realistic, haha.
Resolution aside, I actually think Paul looks better on the arcade version
Some of these characters were not meant for the redesign for PS2 while others needed it to look better then they already did same could be said for certain costumes like bald Brian staying in arcade graphics cause he looks worse in PS2 graphics
The way purple ogre is shaded looks far more menacing. Also, the blue band on one of true ogres horns pops out a lot more. This video is wild. Thanks for posting it!
I like arcade version 😎✌👏👍
Me too
Me to
Aracade is my favorite 😊
Tekken Tag Tournament is
Tekken 3 EX EDITION or SUPER Tekken 3
Arcade edition is the proof
Haha, indeed!
1:33 my main on Tekken 6 and tag 2
Devil has got so tiny wings in the arcade version compared to the ps2 version and the original devil from tekken 2
Right, that's the only thing I found wierd in the arcade version myself
@@RisingUppercut I wonder if its some sort of technical limitation? The wings become big when he uses the laser attacks in the arcade version. But yeah it does look really weird compared to ps2 and tekken 2. Also random, but Kazuya seems to have skinny arms in the PS2 version compared to arcade,
@@nishanfernando9314 Perhaps not a technical thing but it can be, it could have been a thing like the wings are in the way/ a distraction? but yes kaz lost some weight over to the ps2 version!
He is also in Tekken 1
@@hurricane7727 Not as a different character with his own move set, just as a skin for kazuya so I wouldn’t count devil as a character in Tekken 1
Interesting!!!!! More of them way different... 💥💥💥 dope Video man :))
Thanks for the support as always man!
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I always wonder what consoles were used in those arcades?
When i played tag 1 for the first time in the early 2000s, i didnt think graphics could get any better. This was it, the pinnacle.
To this day, i think tag 1 graphics still look better than Tekken 4 and 5 for some reason.
Yes something about the aesthetics of it!
It’s definitely the first time that I ever saw a console version look better than the arcade version
Yeah, it went the other way around for this game!
People said that Bruce Irvin is doing kickboxing he's doing Muay Thai actually
Tekken tag in arcade is the best game ever doesn’t matter the graphics, the movements was perfect to play
It flows nicely!
i had emulated on the pcsx2, i really love it!
Sick channel logo at the start, how’d you make it
Thanks man! Just a lot of design work/ trying to animate and video editing over each other!
3:12
Arcade Bruce: 🗿
I wish Bandai Namco hires a Coder to port Old Tekken Games on Modern Consoles, & Steam.
best comparation compare this , my video , hahahahah,
Why Anna don't have the pendant chocker in the ps2 version 😭
PS2 version is more like Tekken 3 arcade version, while arcade version ironically similar with console version of Tekken 3
I'm Play on my phone on Tekken Tag Tournament on emulator Mame Emulator Box
Obviously, PS2 version has better graphic, but as far as gameplay is concerned (hitbox, move pool, etc), was there any difference between the arcade version and the PS2 version?
Not that I'm directly aware of, I once read that the might have been a few unnoticeable changes. So it's pretty much the grapichs that was the main makeover.
what name of the song started at 3:31 ??
That is the Staff Roll theme of the Arcade version. This plays when the game is completed:)
@@RisingUppercut it's also the Results Theme in the Console Version
3:00
Silver mask vs golden mask
Is it me or do the PS2 graphics look really blurry and dark? They look kinda good on a small screen on the phone but not good on actual tv. Even though PS1 graphics are very polygonal, they are still more vibrant and sharper than PS2 in my opinion.
For Baek,Bruce and Lee Chaolan PS2 is the best
Did Baek slicked back his hair?
I grew up playing tekken tag. So it would come to a surprise playing the arcade version and seeing the graphical downgrade for the arcade version . I thought I was tripping balls when I saw how bad it looked
2:19
Bald brian
arcade version is the best to me becuz it has a tk3 vibe
진짜 플스2 모델링도 쩌는데, 2011년에 TTT를 HD리마스터링 한 건...👍🏻👍🏻
Jack 2, devil, Roger, Tetsujin, mokujin
Tekken 3 graphics
Same Namco engine
Wow. The arcade version of this looks like it could be Tekken 2
My guy arcade kazuya close his eyes when you pick him ps2 kazuya is like 👀
have you played a lot of this arcade version? In footage it seem that the gameplay is faster than the PS2 version. I wonder why this is the case, considering the PS2 had more power.
you could be referring the 60hz and 50hz systems back in the day, where 50hz caused games to be slightly slower running in EU rather than 60hz in US/JP!
@@RisingUppercut I'm not actually. It seems something about the gameplay was slightly changed from arcade to console. Perhaps that makes arcade seem faster to me. I'm not sure! But thanks for making this video and keep making content!
I play the arcade version and the PS3 remaster back to back very often and I agree that the arcade version feels faster and smoother to control. My first instinct was that it might be due to increased input latency on the console versions, and I think that could be a part of it, but also the character animations and movements are just more sluggish. I find the arcade version much more enjoyable to play.
It feels weird to see Tekken 3 poly counts on characters who weren't in Tekken 3.
I wish the ps2 had an option to play with the arcade graphics, i do like the low poly
I DID NOT expect that alt for Bryan💀 Mr Clean lookin ahh
Do you think is it a remastered or a remake? Because they add more polygons in the ps2 version
Dude. I remember begging my parents to get me a PS2 and TTT. My cousins and I would frequent Super Arcade in West Covina and Arcade Infinity in Rowland Heights, just to play TTT. And then when we saw how it looked on PS2, I just knew I had to have it! I saved up my lunch money long enough to buy the game and console, and I fucking gawked and played the shit out of it. At the time I told myself, "video game graphics will not get any better than this!". Of course I was wrong, but TTT is still one of my favorite games of all time!
Did you never watch a CGI cutscene back then? CGI cutscenes basically tell how future game graphics will look
IF u notice, is the same graphic style of cgi in the tekken 3's cutscenes