Sometime in the next century, when the last B-52 is retired, they should put the old warhorse in its own museum, gold plate it, and put that on a plaque in front of it. Greatest Airplane ever designed. We sure as hell have gotten our money out this fantastic aircraft!
Worked in Rancho Cordova off of Sunrise Boulevard, and we would put our chairs in the parking lot and watch and hear the B52’s as they took off and flew right overhead!! Good times gone forever.
To think when they designed the b52, they probably never expected the airplane to still be relevant in the 21st century and still be on active service with the airforce.
My gosh, a smokeless B-52!?? What is this world coming to? My two years at Barksdale, I learned to savor the smell of burnt jet fuel and the noise of an elephant walk and a MITO at 0600! Those were the days!
0:25 That's a fascinating view you don't often see of the B-52. That's looking behind the Radar Navigator through a hatch towards the fwd wheel well. That's how Major Kong made his way back to the bomb bay in the movie Dr. Strangelove.
It's poorly worded, one of the options they looked at was replacing the twin engine pods with 4 larger engines but they found if one of the engines failed on takeoff it generated too much asymmetric thrust. At the 3:00 mark they talk about the dual engine pod configuration.
I went on vacation one year and we noticed that our plane ✈️ was considerably more powerful when taking off than normal. When we landed and disembark we looked back at the plane and saw that the engines had a rolls-Royce logo on it. 😂
Over 90% of the land speed record years have been held by Great Britain and from Bluebird to today’s record holder car ( which went through the sound barrier) have all been powered by Rolls Royce aero engines! The list of aircraft would go on for ever!
Airliners often take off at less than full power to save wear and tear, and fuel. However, when conditions dictate (short runway, heavy load, high temps, etc) they can and will use full power, and the difference is very noticeable
Imagine - the B52 was designed and built by engineers with Friden calculators and slide rules. Boeing probably used big mainframe computers for some of the heavy analysis but before PCs; before pocket calculators, before laser measurement devices. Before transistor radios. That may help explain why the B-52 platform still flies today. When you don’t have the precision tools and computation methods that allow precise simulation of real-world operating conditions you throw in large “safety factors”. I read that the DC-3 airliner, and its C-47 military version. never suffered a wing structural failure. Donald Douglas hired the best structural engineer in the business to design that wing. John Northrop. Boeing sure has fallen a long way since the glory years of the B-52 and the 700-series of airliners.
@@stevenslater2669 yes, indeed Steven! And I'm sure the legacy of the: B17, B24, B29, b36 & B47 may have provided some (great) engineering modelling for reference. All magnificent aircraft, however the B52 @~230 metric tons/32 metric tons payload and a "good looker", just absolutely outstanding (for its time) and still competitive. That innovative undercarriage design, problem solving at its finest.
Im an Air Force vet I was an aircraft engineer back in the cold wart and worked with the old B52's. These RR engines are so much quieter and a VERY different sound - I'll have to get trained up to recognise the NEW sound of these scrambling! Getting these ALL UPGRADED ready to give putin a bloody nose! HOOO YAAAAH
You will be hard pressed to find any jet powered aircraft in service today that hasn't a digital engine controls or in short FADEC. Yes, it's EMP hardend. Honestly, EMP effects aren't really as severe as depicted in popular media. Especially when it comes to things that work off grid anyway. The actual effects aren't much different than if something electrical or with electronics inside is hit by lightning.
Its a missile truck these days it has a whole range of standoff weapons available and does not need to get anywhere near the enemy air defence bubble to do its job.
At some point the USAF will figure out the best replacement for the B52 is a modern built version of the B52. How many B52 replacements have come and gone? How many generations of pilots have flown the B52?
@MurraydeLues "Flight of the Old Dog. Dale Brown's fiction coming to life" I'm glad I scrolled through the comments to find yours. I had the same thought working. I still have my old paperback copy of the book. A great read.
@Trashcanpekos I was a Weather Obsever(25251) pcs to Utapao AFB '70 to '71. Off duty, I'd go down to the beach and would watch and hear those buffs go over head at, I assume, was full military power. I don't know which engines may have been in those birds, but they were wonderfully noisy as hell.
Because there wasn't one that would fit. The issue was on one hand on the structural side and on the other how much control authority there is. First of all, the structure can't handle significantly more thrust than they already have with the old smokers. secondly, when they started this upgrade programm, first they wanted to go with 4 more powerful engines instead of 8. The issue is though, with 4 engines if one of the outer engine would fail during take off, they may struggle to keep the aircraft in the air because they may be unable to counter the asymetric thrust situation with the amount of rudder authority the B52 has.
Can the Boeing of today do a successful upgrade program on a plane designed by a completely different group of people 72 years ago? I'm skeptical. If computers are involved, I'm doubly skeptical.
With modern technology I find it funny how they can make jet engines last decades upon decades but they can’t make vehicles to last more than 150,000 miles.
The assymmetric design and the small tail forces the use of eight engines. One engine out with only four engines can cause a lot of problems for the crew.
@ ok, but with the swept wing, that they have big asymmetrical problems, it seems strange to me. You should know what is written in the flight manual -1 in case of asymmetric flight.
@@dennisyardn1ten238 True, but the first model of 707 also has its engines very close to the ground and has been flying for more than 50 years without problems
One minor note: heavy bombers have NEVER BEEN A DEFENSIVE WEAPON! Every plane this type is ALWAYS and BY EVERYONE considered to be a clearly OFFENSIVE weapon!!!!
Knowing absolutely nothing about aircraft It just struck me that wouldn’t it be easier just to build brand new B52 bombers with all these updates included?
They have just over 70 so the refit will likely cost less per plane than engineering a new aircraft, like the B2. The old girl still has a roll to play.
There is still a treaty in place with Russia that mandates how many B-52s the U.S. can have in service. Way back when, The U.S. had to destroy a number of B-52s with a huge guillotine at Davis Monthan AFB Boneyard where the Air Force keeps a great quantity of plane to be used for spare parts.
They spend on 600 new engines for an aircraft that entered service in 1952. Pointless. And they send the much more capable, powerful, faster, etc B1 Lance to the scrap heap. Incomprehensible, unless in those 600 engines and other upgrades there are huge "gains" for both sides, the generals and Rolls-Royce and many others companies.
The B-1 is a pile of junk. FMC rate of 10% , meaning out of 10 B-1's, only 1 of them is fully mission capable. The B-52 can carry far more payload then the B-1. You don't know anything.
A complete waste of money, even the North Vietnamese were blowing these things out of the sky with 1960's missile technology against somebody with a modern developed air defense system the B-52 doesn't stand a chance
@@petersmith7126 Following on the custom of replacing the old Allison motors to make the Mustang competitive , when USA replaced them with The Merlin .
@@petersmith7126 Yes a well proved Modern engine design from UK, probably will save the US from import duty too, that'll impress the orange maniac , no doubt .
@@mauricelevy9027 " the orange maniac " You sound like a troubled individual. Maybe your TDS is driving your inability to be civil and you are allowing him to continue to live rent free in your head. However, back in 2019, he and his wife flew, for 16 hours and landed at Bagram, with the aircraft and cabin lights and runway lights out, for an unannounced, Thanksgiving dinner with the troops. I don't have to like him, as such, but this, among many things he's done right, he did well.
The bone is a better, faster, more modern plane. Why are we still using this dinosaur... I know I will get heat here, but its time to retire this bird.
RR engines !??? Really 🤨 That maker has PROVEN to be a Shite Maker Look into the A380 and the Garbage Engines that RR actually delivered... that in real life achieved NONE of their perf claims. Suspect some serious bribery in THIS decision
They should have changed to American Made GE Engines.!! GE engines are more powerful at a lower operating and initial cost .!! All Rolls Royce engines are just overpriced, high maintenance CRAP.!! 🤔😱😡👍🏽
well apparently not because the USAF did a very long and thorough analysis. But its always fun to see a Butt Hurt Yank waving the Stars & Stripes, shouting 'MURICAAA' while gobbing off about shit they know nothing about. But maybe we Brits should tell Lockheed Martin to bin their crappy P & W engines in the F-35s we are buying and fit the better Rolls Royce engines they should have bought in the first place.
I was a jet engine mechanic on the B52G at Mather AFB in California 52 years ago. This is no doubt the best miltary plane ever made.
@@3108frank1 my dad worked on the autopilot for B-52 KC135 and RC135.
Sometime in the next century, when the last B-52 is retired, they should put the old warhorse in its own museum, gold plate it, and put that on a plaque in front of it. Greatest Airplane ever designed. We sure as hell have gotten our money out this fantastic aircraft!
Worked in Rancho Cordova off of Sunrise Boulevard, and we would put our chairs in the parking lot and watch and hear the B52’s as they took off and flew right overhead!! Good times gone forever.
Fact ✅️
I helped change engines on the dog model B52 (1974-1976) from J57 to TF33. BUFFs were the best😁. Also KC,EC, RC 135s to TF33 (1976-80).
I remember back in the 80's when 4 x R-R RB211-535 engines were considered as a replacement. Well done R-R, you finally made it!
Designed and manufactured in Indianapolis!
@@dylanllewellyn6792 The F130 is the military designation for the BR725, a joint design by Rolls Royce and BMW.
100 MPH slower cruse speed.
To think when they designed the b52, they probably never expected the airplane to still be relevant in the 21st century and still be on active service with the airforce.
Ah yes when Boeing was Boeing. The B-52 is probably the most solid , well designed and engineered machine of ALL time..! Truly a Legend.
My gosh, a smokeless B-52!?? What is this world coming to? My two years at Barksdale, I learned to savor the smell of burnt jet fuel and the noise of an elephant walk and a MITO at 0600! Those were the days!
0:25 That's a fascinating view you don't often see of the B-52. That's looking behind the Radar Navigator through a hatch towards the fwd wheel well. That's how Major Kong made his way back to the bomb bay in the movie Dr. Strangelove.
This guy can’t count… there will still be 8 engines, not 4…
That’s exactly what it says!
It's an AI voice-over, programmed by an idiot.
@@glennridsdale577 NO, THE VIDEO SAYS "REPLACED WITH 4 ENGINES"!!!
Not to mention, if the plane went into service in 1955 and this is 2024, the aircraft has been in service for almost 70 years, not 50.
It's poorly worded, one of the options they looked at was replacing the twin engine pods with 4 larger engines but they found if one of the engines failed on takeoff it generated too much asymmetric thrust. At the 3:00 mark they talk about the dual engine pod configuration.
The buff will be in service for another 100years by then it will have warp drive engines phasers and photon torpedoes and a cloaking device
Keep going...I'm almost there
and it'll all fit on the buff most likely but perhaps the airframes will finally be worn out by then.
It’s taken decades to re-engine the plane. The Pentagon is pathetic.
It’s all about the money and position after retirement
I guess they didnt think it would still be in service , how wrong they were
Boeing will get that new B52 instrument panel done right after they fix the flaws in their space ship.
Hope so. No trash or loose tools
There selling it lol
APU to be installed. Not the same B52 my dad worked on in the 70's.😅
Don't forget the chemtrail tanks too. Top priority.
Its so versatile , if its got air support ie Air superiority it can do what it was designed for
I went on vacation one year and we noticed that our plane ✈️ was considerably more powerful when taking off than normal. When we landed and disembark we looked back at the plane and saw that the engines had a rolls-Royce logo on it. 😂
Over 90% of the land speed record years have been held by Great Britain and from Bluebird to today’s record holder car ( which went through the sound barrier) have all been powered by Rolls Royce aero engines! The list of aircraft would go on for ever!
The plane was probably light
Airliners often take off at less than full power to save wear and tear, and fuel. However, when conditions dictate (short runway, heavy load, high temps, etc) they can and will use full power, and the difference is very noticeable
God bless U S A ❤at all times. A hug from London 🙏
Great engineering from the 50's, still showing its greatness. Hats off to the original engineering🎉 team .
Imagine - the B52 was designed and built by engineers with Friden calculators and slide rules. Boeing probably used big mainframe computers for some of the heavy analysis but before PCs; before pocket calculators, before laser measurement devices. Before transistor radios.
That may help explain why the B-52 platform still flies today. When you don’t have the precision tools and computation methods that allow precise simulation of real-world operating conditions you throw in large “safety factors”. I read that the DC-3 airliner, and its C-47 military version. never suffered a wing structural failure. Donald Douglas hired the best structural engineer in the business to design that wing. John Northrop.
Boeing sure has fallen a long way since the glory years of the B-52 and the 700-series of airliners.
@@stevenslater2669 yes, indeed Steven! And I'm sure the legacy of the: B17, B24, B29, b36 & B47 may have provided some (great) engineering modelling for reference. All magnificent aircraft, however the B52 @~230 metric tons/32 metric tons payload and a "good looker", just absolutely outstanding (for its time) and still competitive. That innovative undercarriage design, problem solving at its finest.
Im an Air Force vet I was an aircraft engineer back in the cold wart and worked with the old B52's. These RR engines are so much quieter and a VERY different sound - I'll have to get trained up to recognise the NEW sound of these scrambling! Getting these ALL UPGRADED ready to give putin a bloody nose! HOOO YAAAAH
Digital engine controls? That does not sound like a good idea to me. Will they still work after an EMP?
You will be hard pressed to find any jet powered aircraft in service today that hasn't a digital engine controls or in short FADEC. Yes, it's EMP hardend. Honestly, EMP effects aren't really as severe as depicted in popular media. Especially when it comes to things that work off grid anyway. The actual effects aren't much different than if something electrical or with electronics inside is hit by lightning.
Not electric fans powered by solar panel wings then? The tree huggers will be livid!
funny
The Buff lives on!
Cant go wrong with RollsRoyce. Same thrust as the original engines as that is what the airframe can handle.
maybe these new Engines will not smoke up our Canadian skies they leave trails for hours
The plane will 95 when it is retired. I’ll bet the designers never imagined that it would last so long.
This relic only works if the adversary has no air defense.
Its a missile truck these days it has a whole range of standoff weapons available and does not need to get anywhere near the enemy air defence bubble to do its job.
Its incredible how long the B52s will be in service for.
Too much AI filler. 1 minute of actual information over 8 minutes. Repetitive.
When they retire the b21 raider there pilots will be sent back home onboard a b52
At some point the USAF will figure out the best replacement for the B52 is a modern built version of the B52. How many B52 replacements have come and gone? How many generations of pilots have flown the B52?
God bless you for all your progressive military enhancements, 🇺🇸, for peace keeping on the planet ✊🤝👍
This is great cause strong rigorous military capabilities is must for peace.
I imagine the re-engined BUFF will be designated B52-I. it wont be an -H model anymore with all these modifications.
Flight of the Old Dog. Dale Brown's fiction coming to life.
@MurraydeLues "Flight of the Old Dog. Dale Brown's fiction coming to life" I'm glad I scrolled through the comments to find yours. I had the same thought working. I still have my old paperback copy of the book. A great read.
Its gonna suck without the smoke and such great sound the tf33 produces
@Trashcanpekos I was a Weather Obsever(25251) pcs to Utapao AFB '70 to '71. Off duty, I'd go down to the beach and would watch and hear those buffs go over head at, I assume, was full military power. I don't know which engines may have been in those birds, but they were wonderfully noisy as hell.
Fantastic move
I wonder why they didnt select a reliable Rolls engine instead of building a new engine
Because there wasn't one that would fit. The issue was on one hand on the structural side and on the other how much control authority there is. First of all, the structure can't handle significantly more thrust than they already have with the old smokers. secondly, when they started this upgrade programm, first they wanted to go with 4 more powerful engines instead of 8. The issue is though, with 4 engines if one of the outer engine would fail during take off, they may struggle to keep the aircraft in the air because they may be unable to counter the asymetric thrust situation with the amount of rudder authority the B52 has.
I’ll agree on the GE engine one of the best engines.
Can the Boeing of today do a successful upgrade program on a plane designed by a completely different group of people 72 years ago? I'm skeptical. If computers are involved, I'm doubly skeptical.
Narrator messed up
Are the new engines lighter than the original?
Suck, squeeze, bang and blow does not apply to the Brayton cycle that turbine engines operate under.
Actually it does apply to any gas turbine which is suck squeeze bang blow.
Yes but it's suck, squeeze, bang, blow all in one go 😁 @@scrumpydrinker
They better torque all them bolts this time
The question is will Boeing be around long enough to finish or will another company will?
SpaceX will finish up everything ... just ask 'em. And Boeing just pushed the new AF1 to 2030.
With modern technology I find it funny how they can make jet engines last decades upon decades but they can’t make vehicles to last more than 150,000 miles.
Bravooooo Make América greath again!💪💪💪💪💪💪 🇺🇲
When was America “greath” ? 😅
Trump is a bald faced traitor to America. he is loyal to communist Russia.
But why still eight engines with current technologies..?
The assymmetric design and the small tail forces the use of eight engines. One engine out with only four engines can cause a lot of problems for the crew.
@ ok, but with the swept wing, that they have big asymmetrical problems, it seems strange to me. You should know what is written in the flight manual -1 in case of asymmetric flight.
One larger engine instead of two smaller ones has clearance problems with the runway. Too tall for the current ground to wing height.
@@dennisyardn1ten238 True, but the first model of 707 also has its engines very close to the ground and has been flying for more than 50 years without problems
Doesn’t the actual airframe have a limited life? Is that just based on hours flown?
Hope the doors don’t come off. Boeing can’t be trusted nowadays
Large fleet? WTF. We only have 60 or so left.
One minor note: heavy bombers have NEVER BEEN A DEFENSIVE WEAPON!
Every plane this type is ALWAYS and BY EVERYONE considered to be a clearly OFFENSIVE weapon!!!!
Knowing absolutely nothing about aircraft It just struck me that wouldn’t it be easier just to build brand new B52 bombers with all these updates included?
They have just over 70 so the refit will likely cost less per plane than engineering a new aircraft, like the B2. The old girl still has a roll to play.
There is still a treaty in place with Russia that mandates how many B-52s the U.S. can have in service. Way back when, The U.S. had to destroy a number of B-52s with a huge guillotine at Davis Monthan AFB Boneyard where the Air Force keeps a great quantity of plane to be used for spare parts.
Get on with it shit is heating up out there
At last it will not be possible to find them by following their smoke trail
If it ain't a Boeing, I ain't going.
Lol, laughable.
Hope like hell no doors pop open, mid flight, unexpectedly now.
Sitting duck for SAM
Grandpa Buff!
Yeah they’ve been saying it for 20 years
Oh ye' of little faith!
A BUFF pilot on Quora a few months ago said that it's a horrible aircraft to fly!
They spend on 600 new engines for an aircraft that entered service in 1952. Pointless. And they send the much more capable, powerful, faster, etc B1 Lance to the scrap heap. Incomprehensible, unless in those 600 engines and other upgrades there are huge "gains" for both sides, the generals and Rolls-Royce and many others companies.
The B-1 is a pile of junk. FMC rate of 10% , meaning out of 10 B-1's, only 1 of them is fully mission capable. The B-52 can carry far more payload then the B-1. You don't know anything.
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If this was a Russian aircraft the media would be laughing that it was out of date.
The pederushkas roosters from manure not just outdated, but poor copies of American planes, lol.
Garbage video
B-52に栄光あれ！ ところで再現CGのB-52の翼端が垂れ下がってて、地上に置かれてる姿のままで空を飛んでるのが少しだけ気になった。ごめんね面倒なオタク野郎で。
A complete waste of money, even the North Vietnamese were blowing these things out of the sky with 1960's missile technology against somebody with a modern developed air defense system the B-52 doesn't stand a chance
Máy bay ném bom chiến lược B52 không quân Hoa Kỳ. Mạnh mẽ và tối tân OK 🇺🇸👍.
are they green? 🤣🤣
What no more smoking an choking take offs ???
Why not buy American-made engines?
They are American made engines made in America by American workers .... Just happens the company is Rolls Royce
@@petersmith7126 Following on the custom of replacing the old Allison motors to make the Mustang competitive , when USA replaced them with The Merlin .
@@petersmith7126 Yes a well proved Modern engine design from UK, probably will save the US from import duty too, that'll impress the orange maniac , no doubt .
@@mauricelevy9027 they're certainly well used on a wide variety of aircraft and have a proven history of reliability over the years
@@mauricelevy9027 " the orange maniac " You sound like a troubled individual. Maybe your TDS is driving your inability to be civil and you are allowing him to continue to live rent free in your head. However, back in 2019, he and his wife flew, for 16 hours and landed at Bagram, with the aircraft and cabin lights and runway lights out, for an unannounced, Thanksgiving dinner with the troops. I don't have to like him, as such, but this, among many things he's done right, he did well.
I unequipped my B-52H 10 years ago🥱
It’s just too big a target
What a waste of money dont need
❤❤❤❤
The bone is a better, faster, more modern plane. Why are we still using this dinosaur... I know I will get heat here, but its time to retire this bird.
They own them and they carry a huge payload.
More AI crap, with 5% on interesting stuff
RR engines !??? Really 🤨 That maker has PROVEN to be a Shite Maker Look into the A380 and the Garbage Engines that RR actually delivered... that in real life achieved NONE of their perf claims. Suspect some serious bribery in THIS decision
moron
Better than your Russian crap.
Hello 😢😢😮😮😅😂
No more chin bumps
They should have changed to American Made GE Engines.!! GE engines are more powerful at a lower operating and initial cost .!! All Rolls Royce engines are just overpriced, high maintenance CRAP.!! 🤔😱😡👍🏽
Then why use RR?
Remember who made the first jet engine and it wasn’t the Germans 😂
well apparently not because the USAF did a very long and thorough analysis. But its always fun to see a Butt Hurt Yank waving the Stars & Stripes, shouting 'MURICAAA' while gobbing off about shit they know nothing about.
But maybe we Brits should tell Lockheed Martin to bin their crappy P & W engines in the F-35s we are buying and fit the better Rolls Royce engines they should have bought in the first place.
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Unfortunately too far West to be of instant call up .