RY48ZTR100 Ryobi Zero Turn Mower Battery Replacement
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- Опубликовано: 4 авг 2021
- Leoch LPC12-100 batteries are factory discontinued so went on a hunt to find replacements. Swapped in 4 Interstate DCM0100 110Ah batteries(amzn.to/3KSEqv4) that are a drop in replacement.
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I have the 38” 100ah Ryobi. First year is was great. Near end of 2nd year, it spent the entire time in the shop because either the blades would stop when moving or the movement would stop with the blades on after 10 min of use. This year after getting it back, it did it again in April. They still have the mower waiting for replacement batteries. It is almost October. As soon as I get it back with the new batteries, it is going up for sale.
So my experience with new batteries...
With old batteries, blades would shut down at 15% battery. With new batteries I tried running it real low, by the time I got to 5%... the blades were still going strong
Edit!! Turns out I bent a limit switch in the drive arm by hooking a Bungie cord inside the housing - using it to keep chute tilted up- caused issue below::
but I randomly stopped and then the drive motors wouldn't move 😅. Funny enough I could still turn the blades on. I had to grab my tow rope and pull it back to the charger!
Wow, I watched the entire video and no result at the end....Did it work? Was it worth it? Was it better/worse?? Like wow no end to the video.
I have the 54” RYOBI zero turn model RY48140 I bought in May 2021 and it is currently in the shop with 2 batteries at 7% life left, and 2 less than 50%. Repair bill expected to be $2000 for 4 new batteries. Pay now or pay later. Mower was working fine but went from cutting 1/2 yard on full charge to only 1/3 of yard the last couple of weeks. 3.36 acres. Been sitting in the shop for over 2 weeks now. I am 60 and don’t really have a choice because I have no way to transport gas or the strength to fill up a standard gas mower. Just know you are paying $1000 for convenience per year.
That's a hefty bill for what should be $280*4 (was as low as $244 on Amazon amzn.to/3KSEqv4). I paid a little more buying from a local battery supplier.
Thanks for the video & take care !!
Tbh, i wouldn't bother to put another lead acid battery in there. I would go with lithium battery route instead. This battery come out to ~$1.2K for four of them, while a 48v LiFePO4 would go around ~$1.4K to $1.5K which is much better value. BTW, that hydraulic lift table from HF is the best for this application. Very well equipped, sir!
A similarly sized Lithium battery on Amazon is just over $300 I agree he should have converted.
I have the Ryobi 480e ride on. Do you know what is needed to convert it to LiFeP04??? Would love to upgrade, just not my area of expertise.
@@johndarcey did not see your question earlier. But in short, the ride on also using four of 12v connected in series which provide 48v. In my opinion the best bang for the buck could be this 48v 100ah water proof + Bluetooth one from signaturesolar. All you need to do is took out the four of the old one and replace just with this one battery ruclips.net/video/L2fB4ZwkWrQ/видео.html
A single 48V battery is a much better choice than 4 12V batteries because it will be much easier to charge without needing any extra circuitry. The appropriate charger will also be cheaper for the same power.
With LiFePo the batteries should last well over 10 years even with the fairly harsh conditions this mower is in.
Seeing this and reading the comments, I will never own a battery powered zero turn. Battery cost is way too expensive. I can literally buy gas cheaper.
Thank goodness for the battery man down the street where I can exchange the batteries and only pay 50 bucks a piece for each battery. I use them for my 18-wheeler just as well my Volvo vnl still runs.
800 dollars plus every 4 years to replace 4 lead acid batteries ..... hmmmmm
Please let us all know if you have any trouble charging the 110ah batteries with the mowers charger. I have found mine to be very finicky with the stock batteries.
They charge to 50.5V(70%) - 50.7V(100%) - 50.9V(100%) on the Ryobi charger
I am planning to convert my batteries from the lead acid to lithium. Will I have to make any modifications or will the charging be an issue? Could someone please let me know what I need to do to upgrade my batteries to lithuim?
I want a zero turn and I'm really struggling with the gas vs electric decision. The Ryobi would be the go-to model if I went electric simply because it seems more hackable battery wise as there are lots of battery options you may be able to stuff in that rear compartment.
Even with the lead acid, you can simply double or triple the battery life with pulse desulfator, there are tons of brand in the market, you install it once and forget about it. Alot of folks use them for their solar power bank, forklift, and goft cart and it really helps the batteries longevity
@@cuong192 how would you install that in the lawn mower? Sounds like a good option but I don't know how I would do it
The 70% charge is more of a charger issue. When the charger is initially plugged up it should charge to 100%. If at any time the voltage drops below 50v or if 6 days have passed the charger is supposed to charge back up to 100%. Mine has never worked that way. It charges to 100% initially and then maintains a 70% charge. I can walk out, unplug the mower, and plug it right back up and it will charge to 100%. I’m curious if the new larger mower has this problem even though it comes with a different charger.
Just bought one and after a month of use, even if the mower was not on the charger for a few days, my meter shows 100% when I turn it on.
Do you know how many volts you should be getting from the 100ah model if you use a voltmeter at the charging port?
@@powerstroke6217 52.4volts would be 100% charged I think
How much did you pay for each battery and where did you get them? I’ve got the 38” 100ah Ryobi, going on my third summer.
Didn’t see the link you put in the drop down, no need to reply back
So the manual mentioned not to store the mower in freezing temperatures. Wondering if there are replacement batteries that are speced better for new England winter storage😅
Ugh tell me about it, do i bring them in the house?!?! I have seen battery warmers as a potential solution - though not sure they are intended for long term storage.
How have those new batteries held up so far this new lawn care season? I'm thinking about upgrading to the 110ah vs the stock 100ah.
Would also love to hear about your experiences with the 110ah batterie
I would like to get your feedback on this too. @Chad Bentz
how many volts should you get if you test the charging port with the 100 ah model?
52 with turn on and not moving and when you run the blades anything lower 48V and batteries are bad.
I upgraded to Lithium Ion. Works great and charger is compatible.
I am editing this as the charger does not fully charge the batteries even though the mower says they are fully charged. Plus lithium need a higher voltage for charging. I am going to attempt a screen shot of a new charger I am installing to correct deficiencies in using lead acid charger that came stock with battery.
Screen shot didnt work so use this in your shopping site and it should get you the charger you need. 48v+lifepo4+charger
What batteries did you get?
Same question: what batteries? To confirm - the Ryobi charger was compatible with the Lithium Ion batteries?
@@whatleft123 HAYAEnergy 12V 100Ah Lithium Battery, Rechargeable LiFePO4 Battery with Built-in 100A BMS Board, 5000+ Deep Cycles
@@jeffm5023 HAYAEnergy 12V 100Ah Lithium Battery, Rechargeable LiFePO4 Battery with Built-in 100A BMS Board, 5000+ Deep Cycles
@@jofusm are these a direct replacement for the stock batteries? Do you have to do anything else, or it all just works normally as if they were the stock lead acid batteries?
If you had it to do over would you go gas or battery power again?
Current price is almost 20% higher at HD then I paid in 2019... I'm gonna pass on that. If it were 20% cheaper , I'm in. $ for $ gas gets you bigger deck, more runtime.. batteries don't last near what they would leave you to believe... I'm going for gas
I do not understand the 50.5-50.7 numbers. The 70%-100% is more familiar.
So you are saying that you find the new batteries with a solid green light on the charger at you find the batteries at 70%? That would be disappointing.
I need new batteries and will be pulling the trigger in the spring. I am seriously looking at Interstate DCM0090 or DCM0100. I am hoping your experience will help guide me.
Thanks
Eric
50 volts, hard to know the exact mechanics of the charger as I have never seen those specs published... but that is the most exact way to measure. If you scour the internet or home depot FAQ you will see the 70% "issue" all over. A few even commented that Ryobi will replace the gauge - which does nothing to help the situation. FWIW - My stock batteries behaved the same. They are the same type of battery as stock Leoch (SLA AGM) and should be fine on the same charger.
No question, If you have the $$.. go with the bigger battery. The depth of discharge will be less and therefore last longer in the long run. Plus you can mow longer before a charge if you have a really big lawn.
I'm confused, did your new replacement batteries test out with below spec CCA on load? Did you test all 4 of them? I just got a used one super cheap that needs 4 batteries but maybe some electronic components too. The more I research this the less impressed I am with this mower and think lead acid are probably 1-3 years vs 3-5 years. Not sure if I want to pour money into this thing.
I'm not sure they are rated for any CCA , was the only tool I had to compare.
@@chadbentz7650 I'm confused about the part around 2:40 where you tested them I guess with a load function and it showed that the one new one you tested was in the "weak" range.
48V 100Ah LiFePO4 cost around $1000 and last for 10, 000 cycles at 60% DoD
Thanks! I need to change mine out, as run time has dropped by more than 50%. Did the new batteries perform any better than the originals?
Well, much better then oem after 3rd summer I was down to 5 minute runtime (I would weekly run them to 15% on gauge but still only at ~70hrs total, always plugged in - all winter in shed). I am trying to avoid running them down past 50% on the gauge so I am still mowing my yard in 2 goes. I am working on a blog post to document, been keeping track of battery voltage. Seat of the pants - it seems like the 110ah is matching the performance of initial battery when new (note they are rated 10ah higher)
@@chadbentz7650 someone said that it should not be kept in an unheated shed.
@@jeromeperkins457 yeah exactly, park this thing in the living room... Just get a gas mower 🙃
@@chadbentz7650 already did. Bought a Bad Boy MZ Magnum. Love it...gas and all.
I thought the batteries in these things were lithium.
Simple lead acid car batteries.
Is the problem from running the batteries down too far? In the fishing world, trolling motors use SLA Deep cycle batteries, but the advice is not to run a SLA battery past 50% state of discharge.... same in the RV world I think...
Ryobi shuts down the mower at 36v ( 70% DOD theoretically on the battery pack until one of em goes bad).
@@chadbentz7650 i thought it was a 48v system?
@@peterchang7646 i.imgur.com/5ECGqhf.jpg
~51V fully charged
What was the anderson plug for?
The large gray connector is the battery pack to the main relay
I've converted my hustler to electric, but was hesitant to use an anderson plug as the main connector.
If I'm using two 48v battery modules then each plug will only be carrying half the current. Will also make it easier to remove and plug into the off grid Victron easysolar to charge.
Update?
Amazing, I’m looking for battery options and I stumbled up your channel! I’m a cousin that used to live not so far from you.
Do you still run this tractor?
Donated to my mom but it's still running ( not for very long as the replacement batteries are again loosing longevity)
Any updates on this? How are they running 2 years later?
Starting to lose significant runtime... They out in the cold garage now, I don't bring them into my living room like a good boy 😅. I'll have to run some stats on them this season. I swapped to an ego - might be worth a compare!
@@chadbentz7650 So for $1,200 in batteries we should expect maybe 2 years of service out of them?
The ego gave the lithium batteries which are even more expensive. Like the new Ryobis. The 54 inch lithium Ryobi has 3x batteries that are $900 each.
Pro tip! If you want to bring those OLD batteries back in a safe way?
Get an APC UPS and hook it up to the battery leads just as you would with Stock battery.
Leave it there for about 3 months.
If the battery is sulfated? THIS WORKS. Make sure to only do ONE battery at a time.
If its old? The battery cells are just dried out. Don't bother.
The next one you buy? A Lithium ion. Build your own pack.
What is apc upc ? Product link? Thanks
@@gixxergermany Apc u p s. Uninterruptible power supply for your computer.
How come they don't use Li-ion batteries?
Cost versus benefit. Also more weight is actually better for center of gravity and traction level.
My question is why did you go back with agm instead of lithium since lithium is now cheaper than those Interstate batteries? The lithium batteries would have given at least twice as long cutting time and lasted 4 to 6 times longer than the agm.
If my grass isn't cut every week, I have problems.. drop in replacement that I know would work was motivation enough for me. If you have a guide for lithium -would love to see it ? What charger do they use? Do I need to hack up my charger cable ( not so much back compatible)?
@@chadbentz7650 what problems do you have if grass is not cut once a week? I am not sure what you mean by a guide for lithium. Yes, lithium batteries would require a charger made for lithium batteries.
@@JohnSmith-ug5ci my grass gets really long and then I need to bag it, I'm saying I don't have time to mess around with DIY mower build. If you have a step by step guide to a lithium upgrade I would consider...
@@chadbentz7650 step by step upgrade to lithium. Remove old batteries, install new batteries.
Purchase lithium charger and charge new batteries.
@@JohnSmith-ug5ci ok let us know how it goes ???
Are these new batteries lithium
I'm staying with gas, battery prices are high.
Super sucks they used SLA AGM vs a lithium chemistry. Lead acid batteries really should not be discharged more than 50% if you want them to last more than a season or two.
I just wonder what the long term costs of these electric mowers will be, Your example according to the link $290 each for 4 batteries tax and shipping not included, how much gas can you buy for $1100
California just announced their planning to ban gas lawn mowers and leaf blowers
If cost is your main factor then these would be a bad choice given the high entry price and battery replacement in 3-5yrs. As with anything though if you value time over money then they will pay for them selves with less maintenace. Also, the batteries can be had for around $600. $1100 would almost get you lithium replacements which could easily give you 10-15yrs of service.
i would rather fix a carb than pay for batteries ,,staying with gas an my 1220 ford is a 3cyl diesel engine
You should have converted your mower over to lithium batteries like I did. I won’t have to change batteries for another 10yrs or more
Can you share how you did yours?
@@mikenegron6162 replaced the regular batteries with CHIN 12V 100ah batteries. Followed same process in this video. For the battery charger, I’m using the NOCO 48v charger that can change any battery type, including lithium. I use a Kill-O-WATT to monitor how many amp hours I use each run, by seeing how much electricity it takes to get full recharge. Then I just determine how many mows I can get out batteries before a recharge is needed. Right now I can mow 3-4 times between recharge. I use to have to recharge after every mow with lead acid batteries.
@RAPR117 Thanks for the response it was definitely helpful. will be attempting to remove batteries this weekend to test before taking the plunge.
@@mikenegron6162 fyi, original battery gauge will no read correct battery charge with lithium
@@RAPR117 How is that working for you? I'm thinking of doing the same, although I was hoping I could still get away with the original charger. I'm on 10 acres, but I also have a 72" Scag that I use for the heavy stuff; the Ryobi is just for the 2-3 acres around the house.
Ya seems like to much money and a pain for this mower.
It's always the second battery that dies 🤔
The trouble with the electric lawn tractors is that there is too many batteries to replace ! Why can't they make one with just 1 battery , Untill then I will wait ,. The batteries are too expensive I think ,. Just saying. Just as well stick with gas Lol
FLIP FLOPS … REALY .???
Steel toe boots?
Every time I talk myself into splurging for this mower I find a reason not to...
I’m on the fence as well. I’ve been doing a lot of research between 🔋 vs ⛽️
I really do like the idea of battery though it’s a tough decision to say the least. I do own an EGO Push mower, and it’s been Amazing for the last 4 years. With over an acre of land it’s just taking up too much time.
@@Carpetone The issue you would run into with any electric mower running lead acid batteries is you would want to avoid using more than 50% of the available rating making the claimed run time of these mowers a flat out lie. I just bought the 75ah version for my 1/3 acre property with the expectation in 3-5yrs, replacing the batteries with lithium ones of half the AH rating or even less which would likely give me more run time but with many times the service life. I bit pricey over a gas one but the lack of maintenance, low noise, starts everytime and possibly very long lifespan given the simplicity of everything makes them very appealing.
@@ROBMACDUI plus you have to remember the weight savings, so the lower Ah pack might go even farther
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DO NOT install replace Pb battery install replace with Li Ion LFP battery
Li Ion LFP need a new charger and the cheeper are better for LFP LFP are safer lighter more power more run time lower cost that old Ryobi Pb battery
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