UFC 20 Years: Dana White and Tito Ortiz Feud Escalates Following UFC 84
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- Опубликовано: 12 ноя 2013
- mmaweekly.com brings you Dana White and Tito Ortiz as they comment on their feud following Ortiz's loss to Lyoto Machida at UFC 84. These comments were given at the UFC 84 post-fight press conference. UFC 84 took place on May 24, 2008, in Las Vegas.
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"I don't wanna be 45 years old competing in the UFC.. I wanna be 45 years old competing in Bellator."
No doubt lol. Fighting for golden boys bullshit too
James I was thinking the same thing!!! lol
Whoa whoa. He still has a month to stop fighting for good and then that won't be true.
And fight an ex WWE guy for a replica spinner belt.
Yes true, but that is because he lost the fight with Dana, don’t get me wrong, I like Dana, but Tito is right
Is it just me or does Titos IQ go up when Chael is not in the room
Tatanka T goes from 17 to 35
@@Cardiebee123 LMAO
Lol it’s just you. He can’t even get peoples names right.
@@marshchallengestheworld6910
I know, but compare his verbal exchanges between Ken and Chael. ...big difference
Chael flusters him
Seeing Tito not fumble with his words in this is absolutely insane
guess head trauma what made him to his current version
I'm saying. I didnt know it was him at first
This post was almost as dumb as Tito Ortiz
@@trevorevans9007 Congrats?
@@trevorevans9007 He would still beat you to pieces, his bank account is way bigger than yours, his career now is better than yours..etc etc. A dumb guy is doing better in life than you. Yikes.
His sons birthday is next week...his son is one year closer to Tito’s goal of outliving his children
Bahahaha
Imagine if all his kids die in a car crash or something lol
I read this like 10 times before remembering that interview hahaha
@@benwilsonMMA that’s a very sick and twisted thing to say. You might should go see a psychiatrist. Absolutely horrible! Not funny in NO kind of way!
Actually Tito did say that in an interview. "I just want to out live my children " 😂
Dana handles the questions with verbal jujitsu .
Lol Couldn’t of said it better
Make America great again Trump 2020. Also he's the best President we've ever had besides Lincoln.
@@kingkeltic4228 -_- name 15 presidents off the top off your head ass
Chipperson's Encyclopedia Emporium if you can’t name 15 presidents you’re a moron sir
ALiEn x KuuSShx verbal judo is what they teach cops lol
Dana "we'll see what happens" white
Lmaoo this made my day
Tito ''it really comes down to'' Ortiz
Lorenzo Quijas Dana "we'll see how this thing plays out" White
Dana "Spread those cheeks baby" White
Lorenzo Quijas Tito "are you having a party tonight" Ortiz
and..
Dana "yeah you coming ?" White
😂😂😂😂
I have watched this 76 times. I still don't know what Wanderlei said
"I dont think he'll fight again in the ufc, and im a ufc fighter" lol, took me a minute too
@@llllllll177 so hilarious lol
@@IAmIcepro right though just throwing fuel on the explosion thats happening in front of him 🤣🤣🤣
Right geesh
He said he wanted a banana
Reporter: Do you want to fight Tito?
Wanderlei: I only fight guys in the ufc
HAHAHAH i love at 3:44 when it cuts to Silva and hes just thinking about what Lego set he wants to build next
BeLikeWater1000 underrated comment
😂😂😂😂
BeLikeWater1000 he should build the Death Star
Gold
LilRask _ I’m
Thank God we got to see Tito in all those movies...
What movies?
Thank God he only fought for another 3/4 years like he said he would...
Well he was in friends.... Very briefly lol.
Takes balls to ask for more money after losing to Machida. Jesus.
MannyBwoi i
“I’m gonna fight 3 to 4 more years” still fighting 12 years later
its sad
Silva looks like he just wants the conference to end so he can eat a banana..
LMAO
LMFAOOOOOOO
Hilarious
i chuckled
I just spit my drink out. 😂😂😂😂😭😭😭
Best part of the vid
Reporter: "Wanderlei would you fight Tito?"
Wanderlei: "I don't know, he don't fight in the UFC again. I'm a UFC fighter"
Marilley I thnx bruh...i actually couldnt undstand that guys accent there.....makes sense now
Marilley I did you catch tittio saying “good sentence” before cutting segments
He said "I don't know IF he will fight in the UFC again. I'm a UFC fighter". Close but slightly different, and more funny how he actually said it.
HE NEED TO DO
JOB IS JOB
Words of a company man
I think silva's contribution to the conference was pretty legit.
To be fair, he was working on a rubic's cube there.... Those things are hard
Oh what's that? He was trying to untangle a paper clip? Oh nevermind.
I tip my hat to tito for aleast having the balls to stand up to dana when no one else does
spanky mcnugget yeah I agree. I know people said Tito avoided chuck and stuff. But Tito played it smart to look after his body and do what’s best for him. Chuck sacrificed his body for the ufc. He’s done now. And the look the ufc threw him under a bus. Tito was right
spanky mcnugget I agree but he is still a chump
Amen
@Are Em the boss is a p.o.s. no matter how you look at it
@Are Em yeah I getcha on that but there's no reasoning with dana
Dana finally grew into his ears
Dana “Ngannou” White
Cameraman you need to be the announcer for ufc...
@@StrongManMattt I'll fkn do it me and Joe
He couldn't compete because he'd end up with cauliflower ears the size of a real head of cauliflower.
Tito grew out of his
tito speaks well very well,he has a good head on his shoulders, his IQ is the highest.......for a 6 year old turtle.
hammond clarke lmao
hammond clarke You had me for a second.
hammond clarke If I was a 6 year old turtle I'd be gravely offended by that remark.
I Am The Law yeah bro that is offensive. Tito is probably as smart as a 5 year turtle
😂😂😂😂😂
tito says he has a couple years left.... fights another 9 years lol
Daniel Arden 6
@@Jacoins *10
About fight December 2019 crazy shit
Maybe cause he has to..
Well he had to eat...
as delusional as tito is sometimee, you gotta give him credit for standing his ground. he was a pioneer of standing up against the company in the name of fighters.
I respect him for that, he can be cringe and all but he was a great fighter and didnt let himself get played, he just says a lot of dumb stuff lol
Unfortunately, for the first few years of Zuffa's UFC, there wasn't much money that could go to fighters. In fact, the Ferritas had to pump in $40 Million to keep the company afloat. After TUF 1, UFC saw their fortunes turn around, however, they still had to pay back future profits that should have gone to fighters to service their debt.
Standing up against the company on his chicken legs
@Christopher McMillan he was 2nd to Frank Shamrock also.
A lot of fighters don't give a shit once they teach the top because they are getting paid. You have to give Tito his credit where it's due.
Wanderlei Silva was so funny at 4:00.
And Tito the wordsmith, instead of saying "That was well said" he goes "That was good said" at the end, lol!
After this Tito went on to Lose 6 out of 7 fights in 5 years.
JohanDCh but made more money
@@vazquezvazquez3675 Dana made more
Thats what happened when you dont get paid very well in ufc
Yep and then there was the turning point when he dropped Ryan bader and choked him out.
Tito is old you cant spect the guy to win every fight fool he s a legend you like it or not he was a ufc champ ad hes a legend
LOL at wanderlei's face
xpeacemaster he's a legend I agree
He was in a fewd that he didn’t want be in lol
@@slopcrusher3482 Tf is a "fewd"?
@@OhMy05 he was in a food
Sitting there lookin like Donkey Kong 😂 love him
"I dont want to be 45 yrs old still fighting in the UFC" lol that didnt age well no pun intended.
Conspiracy Bear that’s not a pun lol just irony
It’s a pun too
@@w0rldw1d3_gaming "didn't age well" was the unintentional pun.
YITT Mashups was referring to Tito’s quote
well in his defense he's not in the UFC anymore, 1st Bellator, then Golden Boy, and now Combate Americas is where he resides at 45 😆
To be fair, this is the most level headed, humble and intelligent I’ve ever heard Tito
Wyf are you serious?? The guy is a total space cadet nothing he says holds water
Tito isn’t a bad guy. He’s a terrible talker and he’s a bit goofy but he was a great fighter and he played a part in making the UFC what it is today. Nothing he’s done publicly makes him seem egotistical or anything like that.
He's also dead wrong......
@@TheWonderer7 again, no actual rebuttal. Clown.
@@trevorevans9007 are you serious? Your reading comprehension is trash.
Notice that Tito moans about his pay years ago.... gets slagged off by the UFC then years later all the other fighters are complaining about pay.... Tito was so ahead of his time in many ways
You see Dana White his reactions sez it all... He know's he's ripping these fighters off... For a President of a company to come out and be little his fighters
is crazy... look at Silva he's pass his prime and definite brain damage... He' a fighter fighters need to be told when to stop fighting for there own good and Dana White exploits that.
Louis Comolli I do agree with your point, but doesn't some of the responsibillity of telling a fighter when to stop lie in the hands of a fighter's trainer, doctor, staff, team, loved ones, etc? I mean, it's no secret anymore about the risks of fighting and the risks associated with taking shots to the head over the course of many years, so some of the responsabillity is in the hands of the fighter himself/herself. Common Knowledge: get in young, make and save your money, and get out before the age of 40. Use that money to live a comfortable life and open a gym.
I agree with with the fighter bares some responsibility.... His people around him share the most. If a fighter nows that he done but a promoter offers big money to get back in the ring it tough for him to say no even if it's not in his best interest... Dana White talks like he's a fighter and he's not have some respect for the fighters that made you a ton of money...
If Chico is woman beater than he deserve whatever he got come his way.
not if he beat his wife in front of his kids
After seeing the reebok numbers I actually see what Tito was talking about
Tito is a bitch he should have stuck to wrestling/acting like he said he wanna be a superstar
+Bobby Nixon same here, he's been saying that for years.
+Bobby Nixon tito worked with dana for years he can see through dana's bullshit
+Bobby Nixon Also Dana said in an old interview IF we paid our fighters ''boxing money'' they would not fight often and avoid legit comptetion. That's his was of controlling his fighters, lol he is like a communist xD.
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He's got a point though, it's not a black and white issue.
5:50 If you think about it, it’s kinda sad. Tito used to be pretty well spoken and thought out and after all the years of damage he’s showing signs of early cte with the way he talks and slurs his words. If he was compensated the right way maybe he wouldn’t have been fighting for so long, which caused his possible cte. He was telling his future and no one listened.
Yeah it's tragic. And we got all these dumbass armchair mma "critics" always insulting him. Sad.
UFC fighters get paid stop pocket watching you don’t know how much Tito has made fighting in the UFC
I think Tito’s just a dumbass 😂 I know people who talk like that who’ve never fought
That's a stretch tito was never intelligent to begin with. Did years of getting punched in the head contribute to him becoming dumber probably, but he was still dumb to begin with.
@@MuwopDuwopWe know exactly how much Tito made In the UFC and btw, UFC fighters do not get paid well at all. This has been well documented for years and you’re kinda self reporting by saying something as ignorant as what you just said lol
6:36 Dana's a savage he said "Yea , you comin? "
What made it savage
@@shafferryan6521 I took it as: "you damn right I am because I'm the rich president of this company, and you probably got nothing else going on tonight"
7:36 "DATA TINO... uhh... feud"
xD
LV Power - 8:18 Dana and Tito, actually. Um...
😂🤣🤣😂
LV Power lmfao I'm way to stoned for this 🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤣🤣😂
this made me laugh.. 🙌
I miss wanderlei's old face.
Before he turned in to Cyborg?
3:40
The combined IQ of Tito and Wanderlei is 10
Tito “it really comes down to” Ortiz
Ricardo Oliva looooollll haha 😂
Tell it like it is wanderlei lmao
regardless, I love how real and open Dana White is, no pc bullshit no written speeches, thats very rare in this day and age with internet and everything, to have a president of a company that is so damn open and outspoken
Dana's guys tried to keep Nick Diaz out of the post fight press conference for the GSP fight as well.
***** Yeah Dana is notorious for telling fighters not to show up if he thinks they'll be a problem. Same thing happened with GSP after his fight against Hendricks.
No Pc bullshit means no respect. Real and open in your case means abusive and corrupt. It seems like you need to live in some barbaric era where sportsmanship, just rewards and a economic cooperative joint venture are too much to handle. If you are just a spectator in life who sits on his couch and really doesn't respect the fighters I guess I could understand your point. Most of us are living real lives and can relate to snakes trying to screw us of our due livelihood. I suppose until it happens to you you'd understand.
Dana is too outspoken. So much so that he's a punk about it. Makes him look like a rich snobby piece of garbage.
max123 456 shut up max
Reporter: “Tito, how are you feeling?”
Tito: “Well I been fighting for 11 years, I paved the way for all these guys, I fight my butt off, you don’t see the all the blood, sweat and tears that I sacrificed in the gym, it takes a lot of hard work and dedication, I’m a hungry lion, I’m going to keep fighting, I’m a legend.”
“I don’t think they like each other.”
-Dana White
Reminds me of GSP. Dana didn't want GSP in the press conference after Hendricks fight.
Yea what was up with that why didn't he want Gsp at the Hendricks post-fight conference
+Robin MX Also told Alex that he couldnt go to the press conference after the Jones fight because Jones would miss it. But that only came out in swedish media. He wasn't even allowed, they pretty much forced him which was weird.
Why?
whats crazy is he was chuck and titos manager in the begining..
2019 almost over, Tito has retired 3 times, Tito tapped, still no movies though...
Tito: “I don’t want to be 45 and fighting for the UFC.”
Don’t worry about that Tito! You’re currently 45 fighting outside of the UFC! 🤣
This comment deserves 2k likes 🤣 it’s currently at 3
I know. This dude is sooo stupid. He never carried about the fighters. If you cant see through that, then lord have mercy on your life because you are straight tito ortiz level stupid. He was always butt hurt that dana white choose the iceman over tito. Tito himself says this. He tried to ruin dana white and instead ruined himself.
Which means the money is short... He's doing what he didn't want to do.
@@Mannysvalut2442 54 rn
happy he wasn't. Got treated better that's for sure. Just like you guys change your boss when they a dead beat and have it out for you.
"I dont want to be 45 yrs old fighting in the UFC.." LMFAO hes 44 and fighting a WWE guy in December
Which WWE guy?
@@Alien_civilizations the guy is in jail now
@@Alien_civilizations alberto del rio
6:34 Tito’s laugh gets me everytime 😂
you beat me to it, hey are you still alive ? comment was from 6 years ago
Dana feuds with anyone speaking about the unfair fighter pay, doesn’t matter who it is. I bet he’d feud with his own family about how fair the UFC is in regards to fighter pay.
Him and his mom have beef lol
“When I get my hand raised.....I’ll know why.”
"I don't want to be 45 years old, competing in the UFC."
How is that Lidell fight comin' along, Tito?
"I don't want to be 45 and fighting in the UFC" - Fought Chuck when he was 43
In his defense it wasn't in UFC. 😂
it really comes down to..
"it really comes down to" ~ Tito's fav phrase
Looking on retrospective Tito has a really strong point about the way Dana treats fighters. It's all good to go to a press and present yourself like you value them but we all know that they often get paid very little for what they give to the organization.
Data/Tino
The first person that really pushed for fighter pay was Tito Ortiz. He really was a pioneer of the sport in more way then one. The guy deserves a lot more respect. Fighters at Tito’s level should have been worth tens of millions instead of hundreds of thousands. Tito made more money off his clothing line then he did in his fight career.... it’s pathetic what danna white dose to these guys....
Most UFC fighters are damm stupid. They think all of the them can make same money as Gregor McConor. They don't realize that it's a finite pie to share, and for Gregor McConor to make all those millions, the rest of the fighters need to earn slave wages.
Now jake Paul’s pushing for fighters pay
" we all know what happened last time that tried to happen" - Tito "The Wordsmith" Ortiz
0:44 “Luida” Machida 😂
This is when Dana went from a squeaky voice to a deeper voice .
Growth hornmone will do that
4:00 "I dont know.....fight again....UFC fighter....."
Hehe I didn't get it also
I don't know if I'm gonna fight in the UFC again, I'm not an UFC fighter.
@@joelb2965 "I dont know if he going to fight in UFC again, I'm a UFC fighter" hes saying he fights in UFC so if Tito is out he cant fight him.
@@jayweatherbee8666 wrong he was a pride fighter then they were having pride fighters come to the ufc but he wasnt a ufc fighter.
Tito doing movies🤣🤣🤣
“ Here I am, I woke up, showered, and I’m acting as if I am the actor within the actor that I am…. gifted in acting” -Tito
0:42 "Laweeta"...He just called Lyoto "Laweeta"
that Tito chuckle at 7:29 got me bursting out laughing
"I train 3 days a week 5 days and 2 days a week I train 5 days so I train 6 days a week" - Tito
“Well you see what it comes down to.”
The tito Era was great to witness... he was the face of the ufc for years....
Are any of you guys smart enough to know this is from UFC 84 in 2008 lol
And if Tito Ortiz had two brains he be twice as fucking stupid, so all my negative comments towards Shrek still stand I hope Chuck Liddell beats the s*** out of him
@@1161909 And that didn't happen! I was pissed but Liddell was terrible and old as much as I love him.
@@nickkorte I could have beat Chuck Liddell myself the way he fought was ridiculous ..your right! that's why it was so easy for this big head to win because Chuck Liddell sucked so bad.
Edge shan idk what u look like but even if you had no arms or legs you definitly couldve whooped chucks ass lmao
Wow 2008 I’m so old
I never really knew what it really came down to until i saw this video
We all take a drink every time Tito says " I put my heart and soul on the line". (that includes other variations of the phrase ex. "I leave my heart and soul in that cage").
Epic Video....
This just causally showing up in recommended 7 years later
Good thing he straightened things out, we would of never knew about the jackals and lions.
UFC fighters get paid peanuts. on a Boxing promotion - boxers get paid 70 percent of the revenue- of course then they have to pay their managers and trainers and so on- but they are in the drivers seat- if a ppv makes 1.5 million views- the headline fighters, they ll bring home 5 million each. On a UFC card- which they have every month at the least- the fighters make about 400,000 each on average. the undercard guys make like 50,000. and they still have to pay their trainers, marketing, sparring partners, etc- they even have to pay back the UFC their advances which they get before training camp which pays for transport and hotels, food, etc- so the UFC pays them and then gets paid back- taking a cut.
nobody , nobody knows the numbers- but its fair to say that the UFC has created a system where they have created a huge middle class of wages- but boxing is all upper class or lower class. in boxing ur making 50 million or nothing, but have huge leverage, and in UFC everyone gets something, but not much. personally i think the problem with that is- that the top guys don't get paid what their true value is. especially with the reebok deal- in any other sport, the 10th best known fighter- say a Diaz, or a dos santos would have endorsements, and be making 8 figures a year, easy.
in the UFC they're making about half a million a fight. not much for what they're bringing in. the biggest joke is TUF- that show makes a killing, that show makes like millions upon millions a season, and in backend repeats and so on- and the winner , and only the winner gets a six figure contract? its a joke, while all the other contestants basically sacrifice their lives to make nothing.
thats the biggest problem with a monopoly- the UFC can always say u don't like it - go away- and Dana will always ring his old line of - how bad do u want it- how much do u want the glory, to be a fighter- to be a superstar- its exploitation. its code for- we re gonna underpay everyone- and let these guys kill each other till theres one left and pay that guy a shit load.
I like Dana, he s a brilliant businessman, and shrewd guy- and he's made a great product- but compared to the NBA, NFL and NHL- their guys don't get treated very well at all. its possible for adidas to sponsor the NBA but also have deals with shoe companies- everyone knows that endorsements are 80 percent of an athletes income- to take that away sucks. these guys aren't all stars- for most of them - its get in- fight for 10 years- try and get a headline show- or a title shot- make as much money as u can- and get out. so their window to make money is very limited and short- and hard- so they should have as much opportunity to maximise it- and not be leveraged into having to take bad deals. the only two fighters that have leverage are ronda and mcgregor- they've become bigger than the show- but the game needs a union or a representative union to bind them together like the players association in all the other major sports. otherwise UFC will go down the same shit road that boxing did- where its basically a mob game - ruled by a few greedy pigs.
How a fighter promotes himself can really say a lot about getting paid a shit ton of money, look at Conor mcgregor. He broke a ton of ppv records in only two years. Most guys don't make shit cuz they don't know how to promote themselves
Shit breath
Lol Floyd mayweather sells 1.5m ppv he makes 32m just for his base purse and another 35m on the back end atleats
+Loop Set what about sponsors, merch, games, licensing??? UFC fighters make good cash dude.
top 60 fighters make more than a million, top 200 make more than 100k.... these people would have almost no opty if not for UFC... fighteres should be grateful...if they are unhappy, install a union,,oh but they wont, because too many people are making too much money
Its interesting seeing this after the fact. I don't know if anyone would be interested in seeing Couture vs Tito today.
hell no!!!!!!!!!! besides,it wouldnt happen anyways because he will need neck surgery a week before the fight and puss out.
O.I. am thee 1 he's neck and back got fucked up. Can't blame him for pulling out
Couture already, literally, spanked Tito's ass. What more can he prove?
Omar Correa no1 will give a fk apart from bellator
Omar Correa umm nobody ever
Dana's mic skills are underrated...
Ikr
tito ends all his zingers with "HEH!"
Only time where Tito actually spoke some truth lol
Tito let me say one thing.... you are the reason why I started watching ufc!!!! Backing you all the way🙌🙌🙌
Love or hate Tito, but he had the courage to speak exactly what many (if not all) the fighters think.
I love how in this press conference Wanderlei is a company man but soon later he hates the UFC.
OMG...these two act like boyfriend/girlfriend. break-up get back together over & over & over...watch dana & tito will get back together again
They just can't live without each other despite the bitterness! lol!
Nah Tito was dana side chick dana white true love is Conor McGregor
Random Stuff Conor McGregor wasn’t even around. If you said Tito was the side chick to Chuck then you would have a valid point.
dana needs to let the fighters set the tone. he wants to be the super star.
Drinking game: Take a shot every time Tito says “it comes down to”
LOL Tito thought he was going to be a movie star! That's HILARIOUS!
when was tito ortiz ever in a movie?
ryan phillips it was a movie with jet li
Cradle 2 the grave
rod2467 he and chuck was also on the movie "How High"
killa boy no they weren't
Javonte Burnett yea they was.. research it boy
"You know, you know" you know? "you Know, YOU KNOW"
-Tito Ortiz
Tito "y'know, what it really comes down to" Ortiz
This why UFC is the best in the business. They made it all about UFC, never depended on just a fighter. Fighters always has a prime time and they go down after that. UFC doesn’t want to go down with anyone when they go down.
who is laweeta??
TITO REALLY DID CHANGE THE PAY STRUCTURE...
That being said! Dana is a word wizard and that has been his number 1 skill!
Still love UFC
Did he call lyoto machida, “luida”?
Tito did have a point, fighters deserved to be compensated fairer wages based on how much attention they garner and tickets they sell.
Hey uncle Chael do a video on this seems like he is right n doing something no one else did standing up to the man 💯
Gotta admit, he started these tough negotiations
Dana: "This is not a WWE show. This is very real"
2021: "This is a WWE show
I don't know what you're trying to say. The UFC is one of the top professional sport organizations in the World right now
You tried…
Tito just combine Lyoto's 1st and last name and came up with Lyuida😂😂😂
it really comes down to
In fairness to Tito, he’s far more intelligent than most people understand. He has so many philosophical words with his thought patterns, he conveys them in such a way of intelligence, most people don’t understand. People need to stop making fun of him and respect him more.
Im not sure if youre serious here or not but if you are youre on the same comprehension level as tito my guy..
why did everyone laugh at Wand's answer? "idk..idk if he will fight in ufc again, and im ufc fighter" everyone just cracks up, and he staring at them like "wtf is so funny?" lolol
Yeah I was thinking the same thing. I’m glad he kept his cool and didn’t laugh. Was like wtf
Tito is right that if all the good fighters left the UFC and went to a diff company everyone would go with the fighters!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Which movies is Tito referring to, cameos? 0:30
1:44 lol Dana is like I would get my ass beat 😂😂
Love when Tito tells his story about Christopher Walker and the Lion... 😴
Tell another jackal story.