I would HIGHLY recommend NOT to try this. Milwaukee's short throw press tools are meant ONLY for pex. The difference is one is the 2473-20, 2773-20, and the 2922-20 are electric over hydraulic. The force logic technology in press tools delivers far more pressure because of the hydraulics inside the tool. The short throw press tools are only electric. Using a short throw press tool can cause fitting failures over time.
Maybe for a commercial plumber, but for someone not doing plumbing all the time this is a great idea. Plus, I would rather the $400 tool break after a few hundred crimps then buy another for $400 than pay the outrageous price gouge for a true propress rated tool.$2000-$4000 is ridiculously over priced!
@@mrc9953 it’s not the tool that will fail, it’s the fittings. The short throw does not crimp nearly hard enough to create a permanent seal, do it this way from the video and you’ll be opening up walls again one day to fix leaks
I got a feeling it will work just fine. Long as the jaws close all the way its just as good of a press as the copper press tool. 1 wouldn't try it on anything over 1inch tho
There are a lot of tools that have different branding yet are likely made in the same facility and/or to the same specs. I’ve seen several press tools all use the same manufacturer jaws. With this video though to pacify the doubters it would have been nice to have have mentioned the specs of each tool as although the 12v and 18v pro-press tools use the same jaws, they have different force/pressure ratings
Absolutely, in no circumstances whatsoever do this. A compact press tool uses 24 kilonewtons of force to make the true mechanical connection, a standard uses 32 kilonewtons of force. That Milwaukee tool does not have enough force and you will void every single warranty there is, while also having many leaks, this is not tested by anyone other than the guy in this video, please for the love of God DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!
So are you saying the jaws or incorrect or the tool that presses the jaws are the issue? If so are you saying the newton force to press, presses harder? Is there a force harder the 100% closed? Cause from the look of the video, the jaws shut all the way. Is there more shut then shut all the way?
Propress tools are expensive. But you need a quality tool to do a quality job. Which are engineered to do a quality job. Worst case there’s always soldering.
There are the very large pro press tools that have a bigger pin and they will press all the way up to 2 inch pipes, and then they’re smaller press tools, but only go up to 1 inch. It’s kind of hard to find all of the specifications on the tools about the only way to do it is either buy one or rent one and take measurements
I wish Harbor Freight would come out with an inexpensive copper press tool. I don't blame this guy for trying to join pipes at a lower cost than the $2K for a typical copper press tool. As for the comments below about hiring a licensed professional - I've been down that road and I can tell you there are "professionals" that f**k up the job as well. Not all but enough to know that I personally can do a better job than a professional.
This is fine, I guess. Would highly suggest if you are gonna try this do it IN YOUR OWN HOUSE and in a basement where the work done with this method is visible and accessible. If you DARE do this on a job site where the work is gonna be covered, this would just be negligent and unprofessional.
ProPress tools designed for copper fittings generally having a rating on the number of kilonewtons of force exerted by the tool. I would imagine that the tools designed for PEX do not apply as much force. This would mean that the copper won't be pressed as tightly, and it would be more likely to develop a leak -- either immediately or over time. I personally would NEVER use a DIY press tool on a copper pipe that I would then hide inside a wall. I really cannot think of any scenario in which I'd be comfortable doing this as a hack. If I were going to connect copper pipes in an unfinished basement where I could easily detect and repair any leaks, I'd likely have more space around the copper pipes, and in those cases, if I wanted to save money, I'd just solder the copper. My recommendation would be -- if you want to save money on connecting copper pipes, you should learn how to solder and solder them. If you cannot solder because you need to rework some pipes in a tight space where you don't want to do a lot of demolition and you're not comfortable using an open flame in that space to solder because there are other mechanicals all around your copper pipe, you should just hire a plumber or use a propress tool designed and tested for use on copper. Or use sharkbite fittings if it's a 1-off job. If you're going to be doing this repeatedly, shell out the money and buy a good propress tool. There are a bunch of videos on RUclips where people bought a cheap mechanical or manually-powered press tool, and it ultimately resulted in leaks. I wouldn't risk leaks that could cause thousands or tens of thousands of dollars of damage to save a few hundred bucks. I'd use a certified and code-compliant method to connect my water supply pipes.
I sold the tool to my neighbor and he uses it for pex and copper and he just happened to use a larger battery and he said it works better than it ever did with the smaller battery. More amp-hours
What would it matter amount of force if the jaws are closing all the way? There’s not more closed then all the way closed for the jaws. Wouldn’t matter if you used something 100X stronger then the hydraulic pressure or weaker then the hydraulic pressure that’s built into the Milwaukee copper pro press as long as you’re getting the jaws to close 100%. I think most of us who have been pressing for a while can tell if the fitting is properly pinched down from the pinch mark it leaves on one corner of the hexagon.
I do not see any value here, are you really going to work on a second floor bathroom with a set up like this, might be like sweating fittings with a bic lighter, not for me, if you going to do it, do it right, if you are going to test it, test it with pressure, not just trying to twist it off
The money you save by not hiring a licensed plumber for one job, you could cover the cost of an RP241 and all the ProPress plus PexPress jaws. Skip hiring them to change a faucet and you can throw in the MegaPress jaws when they come out. Depending on the job, you might even get a vacation to Mexico and all your necessary dental work done with your savings. Tired of paying for a semester of college every time I have to hire a plumber. Don't do this if you don't know what you're doing, but if you do.
I sold my press tool to my neighbor down the street and he does remodels I call him Joe Flipper the tool comes with 2 batteries and we were chatting about the tool and he said he decided to use a bigger Milwaukee battery about twice the size same voltage just more amps and he said it made a big difference it made the tool work even better!!!
There is are many reasons why anyone doing plumbing requires a license. Would you want a doctor operating on you without a license? I have seen so many major screw ups and flooded houses by guys that try to repair their own plumbing to save a dime and end up costing themselves a fortune in repairs.
Have you ever opened up one of the tools and adjusted the pressure even on the three-quarter if I do it three orfour times it eventually closes all the way I’m going to open up the tool and see if I can adjust the pressure.
@@HandymanHustle 35 years?? I’ll tell you something handy Andy got 34 yrs in union plumber 5 yr apprenticeship I’ve seen tons of homeowners hired handy Andy and fucked up the job. So do us all a favor stfu no license we are licensed by the health dept the plumber protects the health of the nation not you handy Andy. No wonder owners get double charge hire the correct trade , the one who specializes in that area
I used to work at a hospital and the bosses would order tools and parts for us to use on a shoestring budget, he thought he was ordering a copper pro press tool, and they never sent anything back. For about a year we had a brand new pex tool that was good for nothing. One day I found the other broken tool on OfferUp. I managed to make a copper press tool out of the two. I agree the pex tool was not made to press copper but it worked fine for 1/2” copper fittings and it would also press 3/4” fittings also it sometimes would take two or three times before it would close all the way. I sold it to a friend of mine down the street about a year ago and he found that if he used a bigger amp hour battery it would work every time on 1/2 and 3/4 copper without any trouble and he uses it all the time now, and that is how that all came about.
I paid a guy to pro press a entire house and most if the vega fittings leaked and he blamed the tool that i rented from the supply house. Wish he msrked the pipes and gave a half a shit. Btw its nice to see you have a pic of President Trump. Let's go Brandon!
Хобби
![Top 5 Best Pro Press Tools You Can Buy Right Now [2024]](/img/1.gif)
I would HIGHLY recommend NOT to try this. Milwaukee's short throw press tools are meant ONLY for pex. The difference is one is the 2473-20, 2773-20, and the 2922-20 are electric over hydraulic. The force logic technology in press tools delivers far more pressure because of the hydraulics inside the tool. The short throw press tools are only electric. Using a short throw press tool can cause fitting failures over time.
Agreed 100%
Maybe for a commercial plumber, but for someone not doing plumbing all the time this is a great idea. Plus, I would rather the $400 tool break after a few hundred crimps then buy another for $400 than pay the outrageous price gouge for a true propress rated tool.$2000-$4000 is ridiculously over priced!
@@mrc9953 it’s not the tool that will fail, it’s the fittings. The short throw does not crimp nearly hard enough to create a permanent seal, do it this way from the video and you’ll be opening up walls again one day to fix leaks
I got a feeling it will work just fine. Long as the jaws close all the way its just as good of a press as the copper press tool. 1 wouldn't try it on anything over 1inch tho
If the jaws close thats it.. No amount of pressure can close them more 😂
Probly a bucket full of shark bites in your truck
😂
There are a lot of tools that have different branding yet are likely made in the same facility and/or to the same specs. I’ve seen several press tools all use the same manufacturer jaws. With this video though to pacify the doubters it would have been nice to have have mentioned the specs of each tool as although the 12v and 18v pro-press tools use the same jaws, they have different force/pressure ratings
Lmao hope you got plenty insurance.😂🤣😅
I wonder how cluttered his work truck is 😄
Messing with Sasquatch
How about a script and a take 2. Could do without the long pauses.
Absolutely, in no circumstances whatsoever do this. A compact press tool uses 24 kilonewtons of force to make the true mechanical connection, a standard uses 32 kilonewtons of force. That Milwaukee tool does not have enough force and you will void every single warranty there is, while also having many leaks, this is not tested by anyone other than the guy in this video, please for the love of God DO NOT DO THIS!!!!!
It's not that the heads won't fit...it's that it does not have the newton force.to.press copper.....
@TheCheesePlease Nah, he’s right.
So are you saying the jaws or incorrect or the tool that presses the jaws are the issue? If so are you saying the newton force to press, presses harder? Is there a force harder the 100% closed? Cause from the look of the video, the jaws shut all the way. Is there more shut then shut all the way?
Finally I found someone who has the same idea as me DIY press tool
Propress tools are expensive. But you need a quality tool to do a quality job. Which are engineered to do a quality job. Worst case there’s always soldering.
I never good to improvise
The best is to buy what you need
For warranty purposes
And to be covered by public liability when you do an private gob
👍
will the milwaukee short throw fit with other brands besides virax ? or do you know
There are the very large pro press tools that have a bigger pin and they will press all the way up to 2 inch pipes, and then they’re smaller press tools, but only go up to 1 inch. It’s kind of hard to find all of the specifications on the tools about the only way to do it is either buy one or rent one and take measurements
I wish Harbor Freight would come out with an inexpensive copper press tool. I don't blame this guy for trying to join pipes at a lower cost than the $2K for a typical copper press tool. As for the comments below about hiring a licensed professional - I've been down that road and I can tell you there are "professionals" that f**k up the job as well. Not all but enough to know that I personally can do a better job than a professional.
Then buy the tool like us unprofessionals
Harbor freight sales Mickey Mouse tools
This is fine, I guess. Would highly suggest if you are gonna try this do it IN YOUR OWN HOUSE and in a basement where the work done with this method is visible and accessible. If you DARE do this on a job site where the work is gonna be covered, this would just be negligent and unprofessional.
ProPress tools designed for copper fittings generally having a rating on the number of kilonewtons of force exerted by the tool. I would imagine that the tools designed for PEX do not apply as much force. This would mean that the copper won't be pressed as tightly, and it would be more likely to develop a leak -- either immediately or over time.
I personally would NEVER use a DIY press tool on a copper pipe that I would then hide inside a wall. I really cannot think of any scenario in which I'd be comfortable doing this as a hack. If I were going to connect copper pipes in an unfinished basement where I could easily detect and repair any leaks, I'd likely have more space around the copper pipes, and in those cases, if I wanted to save money, I'd just solder the copper.
My recommendation would be -- if you want to save money on connecting copper pipes, you should learn how to solder and solder them. If you cannot solder because you need to rework some pipes in a tight space where you don't want to do a lot of demolition and you're not comfortable using an open flame in that space to solder because there are other mechanicals all around your copper pipe, you should just hire a plumber or use a propress tool designed and tested for use on copper. Or use sharkbite fittings if it's a 1-off job. If you're going to be doing this repeatedly, shell out the money and buy a good propress tool.
There are a bunch of videos on RUclips where people bought a cheap mechanical or manually-powered press tool, and it ultimately resulted in leaks. I wouldn't risk leaks that could cause thousands or tens of thousands of dollars of damage to save a few hundred bucks. I'd use a certified and code-compliant method to connect my water supply pipes.
I sold the tool to my neighbor and he uses it for pex and copper and he just happened to use a larger battery and he said it works better than it ever did with the smaller battery. More amp-hours
What would it matter amount of force if the jaws are closing all the way? There’s not more closed then all the way closed for the jaws. Wouldn’t matter if you used something 100X stronger then the hydraulic pressure or weaker then the hydraulic pressure that’s built into the Milwaukee copper pro press as long as you’re getting the jaws to close 100%. I think most of us who have been pressing for a while can tell if the fitting is properly pinched down from the pinch mark it leaves on one corner of the hexagon.
if the first tool has a propex head, isn't it already a propex tool by itself?
Propress isn’t propex
I do not see any value here, are you really going to work on a second floor bathroom with a set up like this, might be like sweating fittings with a bic lighter, not for me, if you going to do it, do it right, if you are going to test it, test it with pressure, not just trying to twist it off
Do you want to sell it
I sold it to a guy down the street when you put a bigger battery in the pex crimper it crimps just five
The money you save by not hiring a licensed plumber for one job, you could cover the cost of an RP241 and all the ProPress plus PexPress jaws. Skip hiring them to change a faucet and you can throw in the MegaPress jaws when they come out. Depending on the job, you might even get a vacation to Mexico and all your necessary dental work done with your savings. Tired of paying for a semester of college every time I have to hire a plumber. Don't do this if you don't know what you're doing, but if you do.
I sold my press tool to my neighbor down the street and he does remodels I call him Joe Flipper the tool comes with 2 batteries and we were chatting about the tool and he said he decided to use a bigger Milwaukee battery about twice the size same voltage just more amps and he said it made a big difference it made the tool work even better!!!
There is are many reasons why anyone doing plumbing requires a license. Would you want a doctor operating on you without a license? I have seen so many major screw ups and flooded houses by guys that try to repair their own plumbing to save a dime and end up costing themselves a fortune in repairs.
Genius
Not wrong I have been using the tool for over 2 years Mr wrong. Don’t tell me I am wrong!!!
Have you ever opened up one of the tools and adjusted the pressure even on the three-quarter if I do it three orfour times it eventually closes all the way I’m going to open up the tool and see if I can adjust the pressure.
Looks like the handyman thinks he’s a plumber and knows everything lmao
@@HandymanHustle 35 years?? I’ll tell you something handy Andy got 34 yrs in union plumber 5 yr apprenticeship I’ve seen tons of homeowners hired handy Andy and fucked up the job. So do us all a favor stfu no license we are licensed by the health dept the plumber protects the health of the nation not you handy Andy. No wonder owners get double charge hire the correct trade , the one who specializes in that area
You are wrong. “It hasn’t failed yet” is the worst logic I’ve ever heard. Especially boasting about 2 years when solder and propress is rated for 50
Bad idea, it doesn’t have the strength to press it.
I used to work at a hospital and the bosses would order tools and parts for us to use on a shoestring budget, he thought he was ordering a copper pro press tool, and they never sent anything back. For about a year we had a brand new pex tool that was good for nothing. One day I found the other broken tool on OfferUp. I managed to make a copper press tool out of the two. I agree the pex tool was not made to press copper but it worked fine for 1/2” copper fittings and it would also press 3/4” fittings also it sometimes would take two or three times before it would close all the way. I sold it to a friend of mine down the street about a year ago and he found that if he used a bigger amp hour battery it would work every time on 1/2 and 3/4 copper without any trouble and he uses it all the time now, and that is how that all came about.
Looks like the jaws shut all the way closed in the video. This is a stupid comment
Virax propress tool: $1,400
Milwaukee Pureflow tool: $750
Total: $ $2,150
Milwakee M12 Force Logic Cordless Press Tool Kit (3 Jaws Included): :$2260
You pick 👨🏻🔧
It's not that expensive to buy the correct jaws for the right tool. I wouldn't even concider wasting my time trying this.
Truth, it’s amazing what people will do to save a few dollars even if it means the possibility of a leak and subsequent property damage.
I like you uncle picture over fire place
Bruh the hate you’re getting is 🤡🤡😅
quite needlessly drawn out.
Please don’t
Wasted of money lmao homeowners
Make America Great Again!
I paid a guy to pro press a entire house and most if the vega fittings leaked and he blamed the tool that i rented from the supply house. Wish he msrked the pipes and gave a half a shit. Btw its nice to see you have a pic of President Trump. Let's go Brandon!
cut out a few fittings and cut them with a grinder down the middle to see if that was truly the problem....maybe it just needs repressed
@@NoflectioN thanks for the tips
TRUMP!!!!! MAGA!!!!
I GIVE YOU LIKE FOR DEAR FATHER PRESIDENT TRUMP 2016-FOREVER ♥