Don’t think they should/ever will add secondary weapons… it doesn’t compliment the style of the game. They actually said they tested them extensively at one point, and found that players tended to play it way more like a run and gun and would rarely use their gadgets. I think not having secondaries drastically improves the experience you get with random players, because the game forces you into the mentality of helping your team and using your utility, because it’s impossible to do everything with just your gun. Lastly regarding the TTK, I think if it were any faster, players would complain about dying too fast and having disproportionately long respawn times. I think the TTK is perfect where it is now, and players who don’t think that simply aren’t used to it yet.
I mean - you clearly like the game for how it is - which is fine. I just personally disagree on both those accounts. No secondary is awkward and the TTK just feel bullet spongy - which for me ruins the experience. I wish it was different and if it was id definitely have pumped way more hours into the the game but hey.. it's not my game but there's got to be some reasons why The Finals is not braking the top 25 most concurrent player list on Steam.
@@iamthegamingnerd I think there are reasons but those are not the reasons. I think the main reasons are lack of marketing and lack of a reason to play the game consistently. And you’re totally allowed to not like longer TTK games, and you’re totally allowed to be annoyed at the lack of secondary weapons, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t best for the game. It just means the game isn’t for you. There are plenty of games with even longer TTK than the finals, and those games are plenty popular. Fortnite, Apex, Overwatch to name a few. Objectively speaking, The Finals being a low TTK game would make it completely unfun and not work as a game entirely. There is balance between respawning, team wiping, and feeling rewarded for doing these things while defending, but both of these things not being too punishing for the victim either. TTK plays directly into that balance, and the game has been tested extensively and balanced and found that this was the optimal time to kill. You don’t have to like it, but it’s the way it is and it isn’t changing, and it’s absolutely not the reason for the lack of players.
@@samhyatt4863 I don't see it man I'm really sorry. Adjusting TTK, considering The Finals' arcade-style with unlimited respawns, differs from battle royales like Fortnite or Apex, where high TTK mitigates the game-over risk. A slightly lower TTK could reward skillful play, making encounters feel more impactful. And I just can't see or understand an argument where complete removal of secondary weapons is a better move than just balancing them to be emergency only. And lack of marketing? You kidding. Every trailer on RUclips has nearly a million views. They are definitely not holding back from marketing.
@@iamthegamingnerd Oh, okay, I see, we’re not talking about the competitive modes here. From a casual standpoint, I guess I could see it being possible for a lower TTK, but there’s no point in debating it really. And as for marketing, youtube trailers are not marketing. It is free to post a youtube video. These videos have millions of views because lots of people enjoy the game and the trailers are very well-made by the experienced in-house developers. Not a single dime goes into that aside from paying the developers who made it, which they do anyway. (i.e. they don’t have a dedicated trailer team, they have game developers who are experienced with also making trailers). When I talk about marketing, I mean advertising. Paying for ads. Paying for streamers. etc. ways to actually push the game outside of the players who already know about the game. most of my friends don’t even know the game exists, and that’s what advertising can accomplish, but they have not done much of that.
I actually have never minded iron sights but having said that I can totally understand how it's weird to not have dot sights. A simple TDM mode would be great too.
Don’t think they should/ever will add secondary weapons… it doesn’t compliment the style of the game. They actually said they tested them extensively at one point, and found that players tended to play it way more like a run and gun and would rarely use their gadgets. I think not having secondaries drastically improves the experience you get with random players, because the game forces you into the mentality of helping your team and using your utility, because it’s impossible to do everything with just your gun. Lastly regarding the TTK, I think if it were any faster, players would complain about dying too fast and having disproportionately long respawn times. I think the TTK is perfect where it is now, and players who don’t think that simply aren’t used to it yet.
I mean - you clearly like the game for how it is - which is fine. I just personally disagree on both those accounts. No secondary is awkward and the TTK just feel bullet spongy - which for me ruins the experience. I wish it was different and if it was id definitely have pumped way more hours into the the game but hey.. it's not my game but there's got to be some reasons why The Finals is not braking the top 25 most concurrent player list on Steam.
@@iamthegamingnerd I think there are reasons but those are not the reasons. I think the main reasons are lack of marketing and lack of a reason to play the game consistently. And you’re totally allowed to not like longer TTK games, and you’re totally allowed to be annoyed at the lack of secondary weapons, but that doesn’t mean that it isn’t best for the game. It just means the game isn’t for you. There are plenty of games with even longer TTK than the finals, and those games are plenty popular. Fortnite, Apex, Overwatch to name a few. Objectively speaking, The Finals being a low TTK game would make it completely unfun and not work as a game entirely. There is balance between respawning, team wiping, and feeling rewarded for doing these things while defending, but both of these things not being too punishing for the victim either. TTK plays directly into that balance, and the game has been tested extensively and balanced and found that this was the optimal time to kill. You don’t have to like it, but it’s the way it is and it isn’t changing, and it’s absolutely not the reason for the lack of players.
@@samhyatt4863 I don't see it man I'm really sorry. Adjusting TTK, considering The Finals' arcade-style with unlimited respawns, differs from battle royales like Fortnite or Apex, where high TTK mitigates the game-over risk. A slightly lower TTK could reward skillful play, making encounters feel more impactful. And I just can't see or understand an argument where complete removal of secondary weapons is a better move than just balancing them to be emergency only.
And lack of marketing? You kidding. Every trailer on RUclips has nearly a million views. They are definitely not holding back from marketing.
@@iamthegamingnerd Oh, okay, I see, we’re not talking about the competitive modes here. From a casual standpoint, I guess I could see it being possible for a lower TTK, but there’s no point in debating it really. And as for marketing, youtube trailers are not marketing. It is free to post a youtube video. These videos have millions of views because lots of people enjoy the game and the trailers are very well-made by the experienced in-house developers. Not a single dime goes into that aside from paying the developers who made it, which they do anyway. (i.e. they don’t have a dedicated trailer team, they have game developers who are experienced with also making trailers). When I talk about marketing, I mean advertising. Paying for ads. Paying for streamers. etc. ways to actually push the game outside of the players who already know about the game. most of my friends don’t even know the game exists, and that’s what advertising can accomplish, but they have not done much of that.
@@samhyatt4863 buddy... those views are not organic they are 100% paid for.
Great video dude! Keep it up!
Looks cool Elliott
Give me RED DOT SIGHTS!
I actually have never minded iron sights but having said that I can totally understand how it's weird to not have dot sights.
A simple TDM mode would be great too.