FIRST TIME WATCHING: Dune...those sand worms are HUGE!!!
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James and Ninetailedbrush watch the newly released space opera Dune. Starring and incredible cast with features like Timothee Chalamet, Jason Momoa, Josh Brolin, Zendaya etc. this movie was epic in scope and scale and I think could change the layout of films for the next 10 years!! Enjoy!
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Who thinks James should read and review the books??
I thinks. I've read the books serveral times and since quarintine relistened to the audio books on the Ytubes. They go much more indepth as to the political/religious/tribal aspects of what is it that humans are up to and why are we doing it. What is the motive behind the push of mankind?
Oh definitely, please.
Absolutely 100% a must.
Dune is "like" Intergalactic Game of Thrones.
Absolutely. The books are rich with philosophies on the mind, technology, politics, the planet and our role in climate change, and so much more! I've been a huge fan of the series since I was a teen and this movie only begins to scratch the surface.
The worst part about this movie: That it's just a part One. Loved it even more on second viewing.
The worts part was trow that movie not in cinema just to tv. That was worst.
not in IMAX? that's a tragedy
how long do you want it in one sitting? LOL
I could've sat for another three hours just for the second part, o ly thing that bummed me out
@@zuzauramek9850 what? I saw it on cinema yesterday 🤔
“You were told to bear only daughters”
“Oh yeah like that’s her call!”
It actually is. Bene Gesserit have the ability to choose the sex of their children, along with regulate their own body temperature at will, control their metabolism, among other things. It’s all part of their training, mind as master of the body.
That’s great and all, but if it isn’t stated in the film, it’s a waste of lore.
@@SnailHatan It was, hence the quote. Granny there really didn't give out well.. modern vibes when it comes to spewing nonsense. :P
@@SnailHatan bozo
@@SnailHatan You're the type that wants everything about a work served on a platter and don't want to have to do any thinking yourself?
@@1stCainite What the book also warns about. Reliance on something other than your mind.
I've read the book and for the most part this movie was almost exactly like how I've always pictured it, loved the movie. I kinda knew from the book that the ending would be where it was because it was a natural place to do so so I was prepared ahead of time, but I can imagine it's a pretty jarring and abrupt ending for those who havent read it lol
Never read book or watch the old movie and absolutely loved this movie definitely top 5 of the year would be the best of the year but Spider-Man is taking it 100%
The thing is , the dune universe in the book is really complex with economy, politics and hard explain tecnologies and culture but very important that they do so! To think they could put so much work into it to make u and people who haven't read the book feel imerse in this different and weird atmosphere with this amazing aesthetic is awesome, cause here between us , the chances that the movie could be awful was huge, given the fact that 1984 dune is a masterpiece! Personally , i'd like to see at least 3 or 4 movies LOL cause i love the story so much ,which probably won't happen but...i like the way they're building it up!
sorry the bad english
I can’t separate what I know from the book, from what’s actually shown, I feel it may be lacking, a lot of story but I can’t tell.
@@endgamerunknown2255 God I hope not... superhero movies are great and all, but we've all needed a space epic like this for a LONG time, and this is the grandfather of all them - literally came before and inspired everything we've seen up until now.
Yeah same here. When they announced it would be split in two I immediately knew where the split would be. Because it's really the least worst place to do it.
As a long-time passionate fan of the world of Dune, this is the best adaptation of the book...even if it is just the first half of the book. The 1984 version directed by David Lynch was more like "Scenes From Dune". And the 2001 SyFy miniseries version 'Frank Herbert's Dune' (and the sequel 'Children of Dune'...which was actually books 2 & 3 combined) didn't have the scale. I loved all the versions, some people don't. But this was just superb. The books are wonderful, but very, VERY dense and have layers upon layers of meaning. Politics. Ecology. Religion. Spirituality, Economics. Nothing is extraneous in the books...especially the first three books by Frank Herbert in the series: 'Dune', 'Dune Messiah', and 'Children of Dune', because technically all three books were meant to be one big book (kind of in the same way 'Lord of the Rings' was one one book split three ways.) In science fiction, 'Dune' is held as high esteem as 'Lord of the Rings' is in fantasy.
The Atreides and the Harkonnens have been mortal enemy houses for a few thousand years...they have a long standing vendetta against each other.
Two characters, Thufir Hawat (Stephen McKinley Henderson) who serves House Atreides and Piter DeVries (David Dastmachian) who serves House Harkonnen are Mentats. Human computers who have trained their minds to work with the speed and accuracy of a computer...as computers and "thinking machines" are forbidden (long back story on that one).
Paul, in the book, is 15 years old...and ages to 17, maybe 18 years old over the course of the story. In the first part covered by the film...Paul is 15.
The Bene Gesserit sisterhood training involves being able to direct their own biology...meaning when the Rverend Mother told Jessica to bear only daughters, Jessica knew how to make sure she bore only daughters to Duke Leto. However, Jessica loved Leto, and bore a son because Leto wanted a son to be his heir. Quite a lot of the problems in this story, and through a lot of the 'Dune' novels is because Jessica didn't do as she was told to by the Sisterhood.
Planet Caladan exteriors were filmed in Norway.
The rest of the exteriors were filmed in Jordan and the United Arab Emerates.
The "dragonfly" ships...are ornithopters or thopters...this is the first time a film has actually got those things RIGHT! And they look amazing!!!!
The Baron Vladimir Harkonnen wears a suspensor belt because he is so large, he can barely walk...and how that happened is told in the 'Dune' books written by Brian Herbert, Frank Herbert's son. Suffice it to say, I will not tell how or why as it is also a spoiler for a second movie that finishes the first book's story. Because of the belt, which uses anti-gravity tech...he can float or hover quite high. Stellan Skarsgard is the first "Baron Harkonnen" to be truly frightening.
Duke Leto knows that the Emperor is involved. He sees the trap when he is granted fief over Arrakis. There is a line in the book, "The first step in avoiding a trap, is knowing of its existence". The opportunity for the Atreides was too good. Also, the other alternative is for the Atreides to go "rogue". Which would basically destroy the House, as there is nowhere in the Imperium for them to really run.
The Spice (also called Melange) is a geriatric substance. It will extend a person's lifespan and it will expand consciousness (which is key to Paul's story). Paul has been trained by his mother in the Bene Gesserit ways, he has also been trained to think like a Mentat by Thufir, and add the genetic lineage that Paul bears...Paul is very powerful!
Dr. Yueh is a Suk doctor, trained to be absolutely trustworthy enough to watch over the Emperor. No Suk doctor had ever betrayed their patients or their House before Yueh. Which made him the perfect traitor.
Paul's main ability is that he has presience...the ability to see possible futures. It is not "This will absolutely happen!". Frank Herbert described it as being in a raft in a very choppy sea, the tide raising you up and down...but able to see where to go when the tide carries you high, and making small changes toward the desired future.
The worms are important. I hope that they will explore why in the next one.
The mouse, is a kangaroo mouse, and they are desert creatures. In Arabic (which is basis of the language the Fremen use) the mouse is "muad'dib".This is VERY important...
There is so much in this that foreshadows what will happen in the second half of the story ('Dune - Part Two'), but also across the next two novels. So many things I want to say...however, if you were to read the books, you would get quite a lot of the answers. Hell, even just watching the miniseries or the Lynch film would also give you some of the answers.
The novel has a very anti-climactic end...on purpose. So the movie having an anti-climactic end is natural. It is however, a great beginning...and as Frank Herbert wrote in the novel, "Beginnings are very delicate things." This first film is an excellent beginning...I cannot wait for more!!!
As someone who’s introduction to this series is this movie, this comment just helped me understand so much of what’s going on in the film 😅 thank you
The problem is...Herbert was wrong...about...everything. Granted, he wrote it all in the 60s when people's understanding of any of it was little better than that of an overconfident toddler's. Though, things haven't really improved in the intervening decades, either. But, the characters and events are still engaging, and the scale is still extremely impressive.
Thanks for the synopsis. Having read this 35 years ago, I needed a refresher.
Yes this is a a amazing adaptation. Not perfect. I honestly think it could have used a bit more time for character moments. 👍.
@@DoremiFasolatido1979 What was he wrong about exactly?
"Everything" is kind of meaningless. But I'm actually curious what you mean.
Dune is a very "different" kind of world by a very "different" kind of filmmaker. So, in that sense it's really a perfect match made in heaven. It's a dense, complicated franchise filled with deep undertones of philosophy, religion, geology, political intrigue, culture and language. Never mind about the cool tech-y stuff and the fact that it's sci-fi. Basically, it's Game of Thrones on an interplanetary scale.
the choice is to either cut out important segments of the book for a film adaptation, make a 5 hour film that will never make enough in the box office or cut it into two or three films to preserve the impact and epic-ness of the book that has parts that are inconclusive. This is the sad reality of film making. Dune will be made to be viewed by fans all in one sitting, back-to-back.
Just like Lord of the Rings!
I for one love long movies the longer the better. I don’t like to pay for a expensive ticket if I’m just going to be there for a hour and half plus. I grew up with movies that still had intermissions but sadly 3 plus movies don’t do box office any good bc younger people will get restless or leave the theater if it’s too long. I can’t wait till they do extended versions then I’d watch both parts back to back
I always subscribed to cutting down a movie into parts of a book, rather than just adapt a full extensive book into a single movie where tons of things are needed to be cut - thus losing out on a majority of the content.
I think you've watched too many prophesy movies where the one always ends up as the good guy hero. If Paul ends up being the one in this story, that doesn't necessarily mean it's a good thing for the universe. The Benne Gesserit serve their own idea of what the greater good is. But the greater good for some might not be that great for others.
Regarding the Bene Gesserit and setting a child's gender: Through intense ritual, the Bene Gesserit have learned to break through mental barriers. Meaning: They can move any muscle without using another, like moving just one muscle in their little toe because they can control every single aspect of their physiology. So yeah, they actually do have control over the gender of their baby, they choose it after careful planning. And usually, a Bene Gesserit only bears daughters. Lady Jessica has defied her Sisterhood by birthing Paul and training him in their ways. For centuries did the Bene Gesserit breed and strategically crossed families and bloodlines. Lady Jessica's and the Duke's daughter initially was supposed to get married to Feyd-Rautha (of House Harkonnen, the Baron's nephew), who also was produced through breeding. Their abilities are remarkable, they cannot be poisoned because they are able to neutralize the chemicals in their system and alter them. It is forbidden to them, but they are able to slow their aging as well. Jessica is such a skilled fighter because her mental and physical control allows her movements which are too fast for the average human eye.
Thanks for the explanation
That is a great explanation of the Bene Gesserit with out spoilers :)
And they can use THE VOICE to command others.
If it's possible, and safe, you should watch it in the cinema... the music / sounds and the scope of things are incredible! If any movie is worth watching on a big screen, this is it! 😊
I came out of hiding just for this… I love these books so much I HAD to see it in theaters and was super sad that I couldn’t watch it again in theaters..
I highly recommend you see this one in the theater too. The sound mix is very much a deliberate part of the storytelling, and you just can't get that experience at home.
My 7.1 audio with 10" sub disagrees haha! :D I did see it on first viewing in IMAX though, holy crap. I have to be careful or the wife yells because the house is shaking...That harvester scene and the score omg...
The first book is amazing, and there are a lot more themes (societal and philosophical) that are touched upon. Even from reading the first book you will realise that this is not your typical "Chosen One" kind of story. It kind of heads in the opposite direction. The movie is only first half of the first book. There are 6 books in total written by Frank Herbert.
To quote Frank Herbert.... "beware of heroes; better to rely upon your own judgement and your own mistakes"
And to further quote Frank Herbert... "Paul is not a hero." ...despite the fact that he got dozens of letters every single year until his death from fans who thought he was...
Exactly
So... 12 movies?
Star Wars was based on the Dune books (I’m sure tons of people already mentioned it):
The Voice is the Jedi mind trick
The soldiers’ armour are like the stormtroopers’
Emperors are the antagonists
Paul and Luke are reluctant heroes
And so many more
Personally, I loved the aesthetic, music, sound editing - Denis outdid himself. Timothee is perfect perfect casting. Seriously. Everyone was excellent casting 💗 it also didn’t feel like 2.5 hrs. So freaking good!
And yes! Part 2 is in the works 😍
Just watched it in theaters- the sound in the movie REALLY helped the story for me. It just felt like being in another world 👍🏾
I think what people feel when watching Dune and not knowing how to feel but still liking it is like a detoxing thing from almost a decade of comic book movies , Marvel formula and braindead fast paced action pack blockbusters like Fast N Furiousish movies and cheap comedy in everything.Reminds me of Nolan's movies or old school cinema where we got more substance from movies and less flash.Dune felt like we got a balance of both and I loved it and welcome more movies like this and less Marvelish ones.
I’m so glad they gave this movie it’s own unique flavor. Too many adaptations try to take the plot of the book and get it to conform to other movies.
Absolutely. I love that Denis Villeneuve has been doing that with the likes of Arrival, Blade Runner 2049 and now Dune Part 1. When the previous two films came out, I loved them; I know a lot of people found them "too slow" (for the reasons that you've already explained so well), but the pacing is one of the things that I especially liked. I'm so glad there's a courageous film-maker willing not to pander to the current trend in order to make art as it should be.
This feels like quality cinema. I like some Marvel films. Saying they "aren't" cinema is pretentious, but I almost don't care. They're fun, and the better ones are quality film making, but they still don't come close to old fashioned "cinema." Dune is that. BR 2049 is that. There is a difference.
@@Biggiiful It's simultaneously grand spectacle in overall mood and aesthetics, but also meticulous in the small details of design and direction. Like how before nearly every big step taken, Leto looks to Paul. The cemetery scene gives the feeling and reasoning as to why he does, without direct exposition.
Like "normie" people going to a museum and get speachless over the paintings
Those coastal scenes before they travel to Dune were filmed in Norway.
The year is 10191 AG, After Guild - AG beginning around what is actually approximately 10,000 AD, so Dune takes place 20,000+ years from now.
This film is an absolute game changer, just as the book was. one of the best movies i've ever seen.
It feels incomplete because it is. This movie only covered about 2/3 of the first book. That's why they added "part I" in the title card, hoping they can do the second part (which by the way is way more interesting and action-packed). As a fan of the book, this is a great adaptation, beautifully made.
Honestly I think it might be closer to 1/2 of the book. Even if it is 2/3, I think they did well to cut out a lot of the exposition stuff that is in the start of the book. The second half of the book is infinitely more eventful
It's brilliant. I realize that you can't include EVERYTHING in a film adaptation, but I do wish Thufir Hawat just got a little bit more screen time and at least a cursory explanation of how he serves House Atreides as a Mentat
Mentats are one of the things Villeneuve said he wanted to get into in part 2. Can't wait to see it!
Not my coment: The books were REALLY influential, without it there probably would be no Star Wars, Game of Thrones and lots of other things, Star Wars was inspired by DUNE. We wouldn’t have Luke Skywalker or a sarlacc pit without this story.
Absolutely true.
But without Foundation, we wouldn't have Dune! :D
Which is not to claim Dune is somehow less for it, Lord of the Rings also had inspirations. And so do obviously did Foundation.
If you haven't, give Foundation a read. :)
Which character from Star Wars was inspired by Dune's Paul Atreides?
(It is not Luke, Paul Atreides has more names than just 'Paul')
@@agedc9878 It's general story beats and flavor - and the force certainly has some aspects of the weird stuff going on in Dune.
But yeah, Star Wars has many many influences, and Dune isn't more important in inspiring Lucas than Western and Samurai movies for example.
@@agedc9878 kinda spoilers: paul atreides probably inspired anakin skywalker
@@jelletinny 😉
I thought it was a smart idea to have the story told like this as well as the pace it projected. The first half of the book really is a lot of back story and exposition. To me, the last half of the book is where it all comes together and my gut tells me I'll enjoy this film more if part 2 sticks the landing. I really loved this film but I also recognize it's not going to be for everyone. If you didn't like Bladerunner 2049 you will probably not like this film.
I agree 100%, and I think Dune will come into its own once all the films are made and it's released on stream/DVD/BlueRay and people do watch it back-to-back (much as Natalie herself did with the similarly challenging LOTR films). I predict in the future, they will be seen as classic films like LOTR, even though their initial "splash" may not have been as big as they could have been.
People felt that the ending of Fellowship of the Ring was anticlimactic too ;)
I just wish that it was more commonly known that this is only part one :)
It is. The ending of the fellowship is a little better
This movie is so hard to nail in a few hours because the lore/history and world building is so important and necessary to understand the story fully that it leaves so many questions, I really think its impossible to due it justice in a movie it should have been a big production tv show like GoT imo..like they never fully explain how far in the future it is, what happen to humanity on earth, how many planets we inhabit, how space travel guild works, how the planetary govt functions, what technology level were at, what supernatural abilities are known/paul's powers, etc but Denis Villeneuve pretty much did the best possible version of this film a person could do imo
VERY few books have ever managed to pull of this level of world building. Lord of the Rings and a handful of others, maybe. The sheer depth of the world, entire histories of entire planets, etc. All of the political ties, ups and downs, intrigues... it makes GoT look quaint.
Ig after Paul Atredies's arc they can do a TV series
I haven't watched this movie yet, so I'll just drop a like and save it for another day.
Sameee ✋👽🤍
Go see it in the movie theater if you can. it's really an experience
@@MssMarks That's the plan
Go see it in the movie theatre, it is an epic experience.
@@SK-bw8ek thanks for the correction, I am not an English speaker, as you may have already noticed.
Right when I was watching the dune trailer. The perfect timing doesn't exist-
This movie is mind blowing. In my opinion one of the best movies of the last decade! Denis Villeneuve is an amazing director
I agree. It was SOOO good
Some scenes were too dark but it was great
@@canyou7670 This is a movie you should watch in the cinema where brightness and angles from a screen doesn’t matter
@@canyou7670 It was much better when I turned the brightness on my phone up. Of course, I wasn’t smart enough to do that until the last 25 minutes 🤣
It did make the brighter scenes really glaring. I also had to turn off the subtitles, as they became too bright & were a distraction.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 Omg u watched it on your phone? What a waste 😢
Just went to the cinema last night to see the movie, and was very impressed with the look and feel of it. I put off watching your reaction until after I had seen it first myself. Now was curious to find out what you both thought, so thanks for doing this so soon after release. Being familiar with Star Wars, Star Trek, and plenty of other sci-fi movies and TV, I loved the strikingly individual design, art direction, costumes, ships, and other components in this movie. I also felt it was very well cast. We stayed and watched the credits run, and that is a huge list of talented and skilled people who contributed to this production! Filming locations in Abu Dhabi, Norway, etc. Lots of Hungarian movie people involved, and visual effects people located all over the world. And while the movie ending came at a spot not unlike the end of "Fellowship of the Ring", I can understand why it felt awkward to you. The journey into the desert (literally and metaphorically) is beginning...
I read the first three books in Frank Herbert's Dune series about 45 years ago, have revisited them a bit more recently, and have seen the David Lynch movie and the two TV mini-series versions ("Dune" and "Children of Dune", together covering the story from the first three books), too. This new movie is terrific! Hope that the next instalment - and hopefully more than one - are green lit and completed soon. Fine epic-scale movie-making, rather than an indie-scale character piece, like "Before Sunset" and that series.
I think they did a very good job adapting the book. This movie ends exactly in the middle of the book. And it was a good choice. Trying to do the whole book in one movie is not the correct way to represent the story as it deserves
completely agree. not sure where else it could have ended.
Its like a reoccurring theme that the fremen have completely different manners than the royals, thats why stilgart and kynes walked straight up to the Atreides, Fremen loyalty is earned rather than hereditary so they saw themselves on the same social standing
Fun little fact I stumbled upon: The dude playing the bagpipes when they land on Arrakis is the composer Hans Zimmer.
Great thoughtful reaction. Love the books. The film captures the story well despite skimming over a lot of stuff (which is odd, given the running time and plans for a possible trilogy) and not showcasing inner monologues (my fave aspect of the book, especially when characters are reading people). Def read the first book. You'll love it.
Thanks. Yeah I’m definitely considering it
Yes inner monologues are cheesy though. I see why they had to cut it. But it does lessen the characters. To an extent not being able to see their thoughts since that is such a massive part of the books.
inner monologues will work only in anime
True!!
The "inner monologues" are what killed the Lynch movie. There were too many. The movie became a narrative. Turned off the audience. So they deliberately avoided them in this movie.
It’s so humorous watching the two of you try so hard not to like a movie we all saw you both love as it unfolded.
100%!
Came to say this. They were absolutely floored and loving it as it happened. Then suddenly "It wasn't amazing." lol
Came to say this as well, 52 minutes of the kid with he beanie saying "oh cool" "that's so cool!" about 300 times, both of them VERY clearly enjoying every minute, then spending the rest of the video trying to sound unimpressed. Super weird.
kids, what we expected from them. got wet with mouth opened, and then.. meh it was not amazing
You gotta be edgy in this new world
Read the book before the release of the movie which was 3 weeks ago in my country and was blown away by both. The movie is extremely beautiful and one of the best cinema experiences I’ve ever had. Seen it twice already. Almost feels wrong to watch it for the first time on the small screen. If you have the opportunity then you should definitely check it out on the big screen too. Loving the content guys 👍
I mean we got a big monitor lol
@@whitenoisereacts fair enough haha. Loved the reaction 😄
@@whitenoisereacts But you don't have the sound system. In the theatre you really feel those dragonfly machines, in your butt and everywhere else.
@@toncica That was great. Felt like the whole theater was shaking. There's definitely something to be said for the theater experience and while I like seeing the reactions, some films just cry out to be seen in the theater and this is one of them.
Rewatching Dune as an Adult, sadly showed me that George Lucas is not the visionary I once thought he was
Being an adult has not improved the childish way in which you understand how art works.
@@Dacre1000 thank you for expressing so well an answer to this type of comment that I am so bored to read
The Dune vs Star Wars thing is like if someone saw a cool red fridge and decided to also paint their bike red. Despite the obvious inspirations they both remain different things, exploring different themes and providing different answers. This is how art works. Artists just take stuff which inspire them and make it their own in order to create their own thing. You can like both. The existence of one doesn't invalidate the other.
In my mind there is no such thing as Dune vs SW
both are awesome story's!
And even if SW has some obvious simularitis in his story,
I never would say that Lucas just stole from Dune
And I also don't mind it, if an Artist builds his art on someone else's art
Getting inspired by someone else, is the natural way of creating something new.
The reason why I think, that Lucas is not that much of an "visionarie" ,is his Timing
G. Lucas devolped star wars, almost immediately after the first attempt to bring Dune to the Cinemas ultimately failed. (Because it became to expensive)
The movie was highly anticipated in the Sci-fi community this days.
And Lucas was aware that a scifi movie that would fill the gap, could lead to a decent box office success
That makes me thinking, that his priorities lay more on creating a successful movie, than telling his own personal develop story.
Which is perfectly fine! Since he is a Director and not a Book Autor
And SW turned out by right one of the biggest Movie franchise ever seen!
But still one reason for this sucess, is that it came to the Movies before dune
Just like the success of Dune(2021)
Is also partly based on the fact, that it came after SW
I hope y’all go see this movie in theaters afterward
I literally just watched this last night, y’all are FAST. And I love it lol
This movie is a sci fi masterpiece. I highly recommend to watch it again in theater.
I think the movie did not totally blow you away completely because so many parts of this story have been borrowed for decades to inspire other sci-fi stories. A classic like this kind of looses a bit of its shine when it is so often imitated.
I think it perhaps feels "different" because Dune was written in the 1960's. It is missing all the familiar beats to the story that we're now used to thanks to corporate-run entertainment with focus groups and studies to determine X amount of dollars from their film formulas. Never a dull moment, a joke or explosion every five minutes or so, etc. The Marvel universe is adept at this kind of template, but even their well-crafted versions of entertainment can wear off after a while.
Dune just takes its sweet time to tell the damn story in a thoughtful manner. It has a lot of heavy things to say, and will take you entirely into this other world to say them.
Guys you haveeee to watch this in a movie theatre! This movie is out here in Germany for a month. I watched it on a relative small screen in my local cinema. It was great but what a waste. I immediatly gathered my friends and we went to the next big city and watched the original version with english language. This was the greatest movie theatre experience i ever had. It was phenomanal. The soundtrack and sound design so big and majestic. The cinematography was amazing. You could really see the depth of a scene and picture on the big screen. If you have the opportunity with covid restricitions, pls go watch it in a movie theatre. Love your guys reactions!
Tell me more. (just jk. Glad you enjoyd it.)
The Voice requires that your target can HEAR you...and UNDERSTAND your language. Worms are COMPLETELY immune, dudes.
What a coincidence I just came home an hour ago after watching this movie and now you guys are reacting.. it's amazing. And excited to re-watch it with you guys
It show "part 1" in the beginning, It's like fellowship of the ring, just the first movie
It was the first half of the 1st book. It had to end there. But, it gets real "spicy" in the second half.
Feels a lot like Fellowship of the Ring to me. In a good, but annoying cliffhanger kind of way.
It's not Dune 1. It's Dune PART 1. It's half a large film. It IS episode 1. They ended it at the perfect spot. Paul shedding his old life and starting anew.
"I'm sorry Duncan is dead" (Laughs in God emperor of Dune)
just so you guys know, and I'm sure others have already said this, but Dune is like the Lord of the Rings of scifi, that level of detail and worldbuilding and influence on all of it's genre that came after
Eight thousand years later, they still haven't abolished bagpipes :(
speaking of timothee chalamet
I'd love to see your reaction to call me by your name
tho i feel like thats not your typical stuff you react to so idk your decision
just thought I'd mention that there are people who'd enjoy to see your reaction to it
Great comment from Ninetailedbrush 50:06 : "Come on man he's right there in front of you.". This movie is so much better than I thought. Watch the 1984 version by David Lynch while waiting for Part 2.
I started the books a while ago but didn't really get the time to even finish the first one before I watched the movie but from how much I've read so far The movie does absolute justice. The visual world building is on par with the source. The movie's ending didn't seem as odd to me. I thought it was a very natural fitting end, where we see Paul constantly have visions of Zendaya in the beginning very uncertain about his future in Arrakis, we end with them actually meeting, and Paul making the decision to stick with The freman. That is a full arc in my opinion, perhaps not as big as we are used yet complete (for this movie's purpose). I didn't realise people thought it was an odd end.
The time passed between the "now" and the date that you see is actually about 10000 years more. The calendar reset to BG (Before Guild) and AG (After Guild) and the year you see there is AG. in total, a bit over 20000 years in our future
34:43 I've seen the movie twice and watched several video reactions and this scene gets funnier every time I see it.
Duncan: _being Duncan_
Harkonnens: _all aboard the nope train to fuck-that-ville_
I loved that scene because it says a lot - Duncan being the most famous swordmaster on the galaxy is enough to make anyone just concede without trying lol
The answer to your question on the locations of where they filmed: Budapest, Hungary, Jordan, Norway and Abu Dhabi.
The desert parts are very real. Oh the composer for Dune was Hans Zimmer. He did 3 soundtracks for the film.
That’s awesome
The Bene gesserit consider most of humanity beneath them and animals. They think elevated beings are “humans”. That’s why they are testing him to see if instead of being a typical animal. Since he past the test, she called him a “human”. Also Jessica was not feeling Paul’s pain, she had gone through that test before and was terrified her son was going to die. Also, when the reverend mother says you were told to bear only daughters, the Bene gesserit have so much control over their bodies and every process in them that they have power to chose exactly when they conceive and what gender. Jessica was ordered by her Bene gesserit order to bear only daughters but she disobeyed because she thought she could produce the one and also the love of her life the duke wanted a son badly.
Throughout this whole movie i’m thinking where da heck did they film this
This movie is nothing short of ‘amazing’. Idk how you walked away feeling anything else. It is called Part One for a reason. Fellowship of the Ring felt the same way. It is a giant episode. And there were plenty of arcs. Paul has a huge arc in this movie. He’s a completely different person by the end of the movie.
Yeah, I’m ok with that. I will completely disagree about The Fellowship. That’s why LOTR is so good. All the movies stand alone as works in themself. This was a little more incomplete
@@whitenoisereacts I’m sincerely asking. Not in anger. Healthy fun debate!
How this is different than Fellowship? It ends in a similar fashion. Characters are tested throughout. Some die and others change. At the very end, they embark on another journey. It symbolizes the people they must become to accomplish their mission. Changing who they are and accepting the responsibility set before them.
I’m a huge LOTR fan as well. The movies are sacred to me. But Fellowship doesn’t stand alone. The journey only begins when the fellowship fails. There is no closure to any of their stories. They all have closing scenes that setup the following film, just as Dune.
How did Fellowship feel more complete then Dune? I felt that they both did a stellar job at world building and setting the foundation of the chapters to come.
So I think it comes with character arcs. Frodo doesn’t truly decide to take the ring alone till the very end. Boramire finally fights for what is right at the very end and gives his life. Sam shows his undying loyalty by running after Frodo. Idk, it felt like there were actual character arcs that finished a little bit in the fellowship
@@whitenoisereacts Are you out of your mind? I'm asking seriously, because you seem "touched" in the head. The ENTIRE POINT of LOTR is for Frodo to destroy the ring of power? If that isn't accomplished in the first film then it DOESN'T "stand alone" and "work for itself". "Fellowship" is literally the beginning of a mission to do ONE THING and that one thing is nowhere near to being accomplished as it ends with them setting off to do THAT thing. It's the first part of a three part story that culminates in the third act with that mission being accomplished.
Without all three parts of that story, the point of the story is never realized.
This is what you're saying.
Aragorn: I'd followed you into the fires of Mt. Doom, if you'd let me.
Frodo: Speaking of Mt. Doom I gotta get going. You know, gotta destroy this ring and everything.
Aragorn: Farewell, my friend.
Frodo: Yup. Bye.
Sam: I'm coming with you.
Frodo: Oh, Sam.
The End.
That's LITERALLY how that first movie ends, Sam and Frodo head off to BEGIN THE JOURNEY to do the thing they were charged to do and you're saying it works all by itself?!
But that's also EXACTLY how Dune ends!!! Paul comes into manhood and decides to see his father's wishes fulfilled by making allies with the Fremen so they can fight the Empire and the Harkonnens! Paul heads off with the Fremen to do the thing his dad was attempting to do.
How do you not see that they are the exact same thing?
Paul was uncertain about his ability to take a leadership role when his dad said "you're the future of our house, son". Then he witnesses the destruction of his house, the death of his dad and manipulation by his mom's cult and finally decides, upon meeting the Fremen and killing his first man, that he IS going to take charge, not leave the planet as his mother wants to do, but rather stay on Arrakis, fulfill his father's wishes and begin to move toward the destination of fighting back.
That's called a character arc.
Yeah, and only Paul….The fellowship does that for all its characters. It’s also the way they do it. Even if the beats are the same it don’t matter. Look u don’t have to freak out or anything, most people agreed this movie ended very abruptly. And it was definitely more abruptly and sudden then something like the fellowship.
Just remember. The doctor has had ‘imperial conditioning’ which makes him
Totally safe to tend to the great houses high born.. the diamond on his head is the sign of that. They can’t harm or betray the people they serve. The baron broke it by having his wife in a 24/7 torture device until he does what the baron wants..
See the neat thing is, that’s not even explained in the movie. (It doesn’t even have to be for the betrayal still to make sense.)
Haven't seen this in the cinema yet so for once I'm not watching one of your vids, too soon guys it only just came out in the UK cinemas yesterday.
I watched this last night. It was amazing
Same. I loved it. It would’ve been amazing on an IMAX screen. Unfortunately, I only got to see it on my phone, but it was still pretty incredible. My only qualm was possibly the soundtrack, only because it was so up front & noticeable. I will say that I’m enjoying it more while watching this reaction, so it’s entirely possible I’ll be won over.
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 the soundtrack was pretty loud. I did see it on an IMAX screen.
You guys are chill and all, but honestly the movie deserves better than being watched in a bright room on a tiny screen.
Well it’s a really big monitor but we prbly gonna watch in theaters as well
I grew up with Dune and watched this masterpiece with a friend last night. Now every time the ground shakes you say ✨wormsign and every time something magical happens to you, just remember it's ✨desert power and of course anytime you're afraid now you'll remember that ✨fear is the mind-killer. Ah, so the power in our Voices 😍 Thank you for this reaction guys! ❤️🎥
i've just seen dune 2 in theater, oh man what an experience. it also makes me think of you guys and the dune 2 reaction you might have done if the channel is still running ;w; just reminiscing and musing alone here /sobs
22:00 "If his heart's in it with his training..."
'snort* *read Dune Messiah- knowing of the jihad' HAHAHAHA 😆
I also agree that this felt like an amazing series premier. Had some incredible world building and it introduced us to many interesting characters. It is also a shame because it could be years until we get to see those characters actually get developed. As someone who hasn't read the book I feel kinda disappointed. I enjoyed it a lot while watching but when I got to the ending I realized the story didn't progressed much and almost nothing got explained. I'm sure all that will be in the sequels. I just hope not too much time happens to the point where I just lose interest in seeing more.
Exactly this movie doesn’t stand up great on its own unless it’s complete . Hopefully we are in for quite an epic of a journey
One important thing to keep in mind is that this film only cover about half of the first book. Though the end may seem abrupt and slightly jarring, it is a logical place to stop for many reasons.
1. Because this story is so dense and rich with material, characters and themes that trying to cram all that into a single film just would not do any justice to the source material.
2. At this point in the story there is roughly a 5 year time jump in the story and I have heard the director wants his actors to physically age in real life to more accurately depict that time has passed.
There is so much to explore and learn in the DUNE universe. I highly recommend reading at least the first couple books.
Trust me when I say, as a book reader, it ends in the _perfect_ spot.
There `were years between the Star War movies and even Lord of the Rings were a year apart. The best things in life are worth waiting for. And if you lose interest. Fine, less of a line at movie theater.
'It's making me think of Star Wars.'
What a coincidence. Dune also made George Lucas think up Star Wars in the first place.
I dream of Arrakis, explains the sand in my eyes when awaken. The beauty but deadliness of the desert world is both enchanting and awe inspiring.
I've heard the dress Lady Jessica is wearing when they arrive at Arrakis might be the most expensive movie costume ever made.
The shots of her arriving & walking in the wind are so gorgeous. It looks like a painting..
lol never in a million years
In all honesty you said you will watch a movie before reading the book. I cant help but agree with that statement. If you watch a movie before you read the book its easier to appreciate the movie. Otherwise you will constantly be comparing to the book. That said the books are overall better because they have more time to build the story.
So ... it felt like half a movie? That's fair, I mean it was only half a book.
I can't believe you watched this in your tiny theatre in a lit room
read the book. The spice extends long life (as in by hundreds it not thousands of years in some cases), it grants greatly enhanced mental abilities and the ability to see into the future. it grants the ability to travel great distances in space. it is literally what holds the universe together.
I love Space-feudalism. The Emperor quietly backing a smaller weaker but richer House (harkonnen) against a more powerful House (Atreides) in order for the Emperor to maintain his own power. This is full on Medieval Germany/Holy Roman Empire in space.
In the book Liet is Chani’s father.
It's kind of like the "Lord of the Rings" of Sci-Fi, I guess...
I do think the score would have been better if it was more classical in nature like Star Wars. Hans Zimmer said he purposely didn’t do that because he wanted Dune to feel alien and as a kid he felt like Star Wars’ music made no sense even though he liked it because it had Earth instruments. But I think that’s a weird way to think about it. And that music like Star Wars would have enhanced the movie as opposed to didgeridoo and woman screaming sounds. But that’s just my opinion.
The change in sound makes Duncan sound like a demon lmao
If a lasgun connects to a shield it creates an atomic explosion… hence hand-to-hand combat is common in the Dune Universe.
As someone who has read the books and seen many movies based on books. It is ALWAYS better to watch the movie first. That way if you liked the film you can spend even more time in that world.
That terrified look Jessica gives Paul when Duncan bows to Paul and says "My Lord Duke.." always makes me emotional. Such a tumultuous time.
There are so many subtleties like that because of the hugely talented cast, it’s worth rewatching over and over.
Never read the books, saw the trailer and thought it was going to be awful. Reviews were good but still went in hesitant.
It was a masterpiece. Going to the cinema to watch it 5 days later this weekend to get the full experience it deserves. Then I am going to read the book's, usually the other way round for me. Kudos to Villeneuve!
(30/10/2021) Returned from the cinema, the movie was even more spectacular. With many more things noticed and appreciated on a second watch. Never going to a public cinema again though, half the crowd should not be allowed out of there homes, let alone into a immersive movie theatre experience. The selfishness of some people makes you question your faith in humanity. Even so, Part 2 cant come soon enough. Now the books await me!
I've watched it yesterday in the movie theatre. I adored it. I've read the book, and everything I imagined while reading it is in the movie. The visuals are amazing and the cast is perfect. 10/10 movie. Loved your reaction.
Common reactor phrases: 'Dragonfly' 'they're not married?'
there is a 1984 movie Dune maybe you can check it out.
I feel like people gloss over killing a fellow person like it's nothing, and no wonder, since that's how it has been approached in most movies. In Batman begins we see a bit of Bruce's struggle with this, but I cannot immediately recall another movie where this is part of the character development.
This actually might be the arc you're looking for: Paul taking his first life is not self-evident, but he overcomes this because of a higher prupose, and it takes it's toll on him. Just imagine what he feels after it is done, while still knowing it was not strictly necessary. Lost innosence, arc resolved.
its exactly how its planned. its Part 1 its like fellowship of the ring Part 2 is already in production set to release in 2023
I really liked your reaction but was a little irritated at your end comments. You do realize this was part 1 of 2 parts, right? Also, that is just for the FIRST book - there are 3 (??) Dune books. This movie was a work of art, on all levels, IMO.
One of the best movies I've seen in a minute!
im watching this tonight with a friend! i'll circle back to this later :D
Every time I see the scene where Duke Leto dives the helicopter, I laugh and imagine him saying "I always wanted to be a pilot!" *passenger: "Your NOT a pilot!?" as they grasp on to their seat in fear.
Something that might help with the time is that even though its the year 10,000 ish, its actually 20,000 years in the future. This is because the standard calendar in dune is the imperial calendar and the year 0 is the formation of the spacing guild
I’m in the minority that really enjoyed Lynch’s Dune in 1984, but I also really like the book. This movie is so good, and part 2 is when the real shit happens.
Noooooo why didn’t you watch it in cinemas first this movie was made for the big screen
Cause that is what everybody would have expected!
See this in IMAX and I promise you will be blown away, especially on second view
This was the first half of the 1st Book...! Not a none climastic ending, and also there's 6 books!
I guess my comment will be drowned in here with so many other comments, but I still felt the need to say this movie is fabulous, even for someone who has read the book😍! This is something I rarely say, unfortunately if you read the book first it's easy to be disappointed because of the cuts, changes and differences with your own imagination. But I have to say, this one is a blast! I just came back from the theater, and I'm ready to rewatch it right now with you 😁
It’s not drowned…I always read my comments. It felt like a super loyal adaption which is why I have faith in a sequel
@@whitenoisereacts That's good to know and very nice of you ☺ Yes I think most of us agree on that. Since you loved the world so much maybe you could try reading the book. I've just read the first one though.
I disagree on being more disappointed if you read the book first. There were things deleted. But my memory and imagination filled in the blank. The Lynch movie tried to cram too much into a standard movie time. It did not work. So the film makers of this movie took it slower and focused on the survival of Paul and Jessica. It worked fine for me.
A pity that one thing was not delivered in the movie, at least is not super clear:
Yueh didn't betray to exactly "save" his wife -- he did it so they let her die.
This is a detail but on one hand paints the Harkonnen more, and also shows how much premeditation everyone in the future have.
this was only the first half of the first book, i was so impressed
Glad you liked it!
Indeed, the story is quite compelling but worldbuilding needs its time, and they stayed pretty close to the original story and scenes of the book. Some details were omitted, but that's unavoidable when adapting such a lore-heavy book. As to give your mom some additional info on the lore and politics of the Duniverse, so it becomes a bit more clear:
You have 4 major powerblocks in this universe:
1)The Emperor (and his army, the Sardaukar)
2)The Landsraad, consisting of a dozen Great Houses (and many Minor Houses, all vying for power). Think Game-of-Thrones here, but in sci-fi setting. ;-)
3)The Bene Gesserit; a semi-religious Order of women whom have certain powers (like the Voice, or being a Truthsayer, and some others not shown yet) and exert a lot of behind-the-scenes influence, but mostly stay low-profile
4) The Guild Navigators and CHOAM; a strong mercantile power, with a monopoly on spacetravel
It was more or less explained in the beginnings when Paul talked with his dad on Caladan: House Atreides is a growing power, politically and military, and the Emperor feels threatened. But he can't directly attack the House, because otherwise the Landsraad (the ensemble of Great Houses) will turn against him. As said, they each constitute a "big power" in this Duniverse. So the Landsraad and the Emperor keep each other in check, as it were.
Meanwhile, the Bene Gesserit are working from the shadows, on both sides - they primarily are concerned with their own plans and devices, to create the Kwizatsh Haderach. They manipulate from the shadows and actually form the third great power in this universe, but seldom show it openly. They also exert power by political marriages, or become concubines for political advantages - which is why Jessica wasn't married to Leto, though it was done to benefit him and House Atreides, not herself or the Sisterhood.
The fourth independent power, which is hardly touched upon in this first part of the movie, is CHOAM and their Spice Guild. They're like a huge mercantile power, and the Guild Navigators are the only ones able to move/teleport between planets, so without them, there would be no viable interstellar Imperium. Which make them essential and an enormous powerhouse as well - though, of course... they are and remain dependent on the Spice. That's why: whom controls Arrakis, controls the Empire.
So the Emperor can't directly attack a Great House like Artreides, or he risks all-out war with the Landsraad, consisting of the other Great Houses. Instead, he uses an indirect attack, with and through the Harkonnens - who want their fiefplanet back with all the Spice - doing the grunt work for him. The emperor knows they will be easily instigated that way, certainly because the Atreides and Harkonnen already have a centuries-old feud going on between them. It's a sort of proxy war, thus. He does help the Harkonnen to make sure they'll win - hence why he sends a few battalions of Sardaukar, his elite troops. But no-one (especially the Landsraad) may know about that. (That's also why they killed Liet, because she was going to expose the Emperor's meddling).
Also, some details one might have missed in the movie: About the time in which the story plays: in the beginning of the movie they show it's the year 10191, but this is not 10191 AD, it's 10191 AG. AG (After Guild - when the Spice Guild was made and started exploring the stars), and BG (Before Guild) are the iterations used and the lore in the books gives some indication as how that relates to our AD (Anno Domini). The most precise date - with a high level of accuracy - is that the first Dune novel which is set in 10,191 AG, corresponds approximately to 23,148 AD. It is mentioned the "space age" takes place in 11,000 BG, and assuming this would mean it began in 1957 AD as this is when the first satellite, Sputnik, was launched, we can rebuild the whole timeline to our AD. So if you add the year 11,000 BG to 10,191 AG you’re left with a time span of 21,191 years. So if you add 21,191 years to 1957 AD, you’re left with 23,148 AD as the most likely date. Quite some time! Most casual watchers of the movie think it's almost 10000 years in the future, but it's actually more than twice as much!
Now...as far as the melee fights and old/new tech are concerned, it's important to realize that in the Duniverse, while there is very high-tech at CERTAIN aspects, others are low tech (which gives the retro-feeling of the movie) but with a reason. It may seem strange at first sight, but note, however, that this has an in-story explanation, namely: thousands of years ago, there was a rebellion against "thinking machines" (AI) called the Butlerian Jihad. Humanity won (barely), but since that time there is a very strong taboo on creating anything resembling robots or AI, and humanity started to develop their own powers (aided by the melange/spice), such as Mentats (basically human supercomputers). This is the reason you don't see any highly developed robots, AI or even computers in this world.
This mix of old and new tech is a defining, historically explained element of the Duniverse; it's part of the worldbuilding and lore. Now, specifically about the melee combat: maybe you missed it, but they explained the shields in that fighting scene; they said "the slow sword can penetrate it". This is a hint that ALL objects with high kinetic energy are stopped dead in their tracks when hitting the shield, but SLOW objects can penetrate it. Meaning: ALL of our "modern" warfare weapons would largely become obsolete: machine-guns and all fast moving shells/bullets etc. become useless, but swords and knifes that are SLOWLY moved can still reach a target through the shields. Making the use of swords and knifes, after thousands of years, the dominant way of fighting once again. It's actually a cool twist.
That's all I'm going to say about it, because any more would get you into spoiler territory for part 2! ;-)
Hope that made things more clear!