Police like e-bikes too. They’re not worried. They may stop you just to check it out but they’ll never impound it. Just show them the 250w sticker and that will suffice.
I love that us, savvy seniors are getting healthier every day on these amazing machines. Have a 3000w hub coming in a few days. Woohoo! Btw, Horrible feeling when your e-bike stops running far from home. At least you can limp home. Lol. Been there, done that Good luck friend 🤞🏽
You get a Sympathy Like from me, mate. Most ebikers with "enhanced" systems have or will have problems at some point, it's part of the fun and for me at least, trial and error are a big part of the learning curve.
My latest powerful bike is literally a pocket rocket! In essence a cheap 20'' argos folding bike, but fitted with a bonkers 1500w/52v20amp rear wheel conversion kit it does 45 mph and hauls ass up hills! Cost just £800 for the complete kit
This is soooo dope man I hope you can figure it out because this is the best Engwe M20 I’ve seen yet😎Hope you can get it together dude and stay safe out there on your rides my guy🤟✌️
Mr. Butties, I installed a 210mm rear coil dnm shock and not only did it make the ride so much better it also raised the seat a little bit. Longer rear shocks are possible to install on this bike
i bought couple bike shengmilo mx21 500watt love the bike ride really nice, but my best bike which covers everything i need speed n power GUNAI X20 Electric Bike Off Road 48v 2000 Watt Fat Bike, she does 35,5 mph and range 40 to 60 miles which i love , love ya vid BaconButties be safe
Wow. I have the gen 3 with the same battery combo on my mountain bike. Mounting the battery was definitely interesting. There are only 2 holes that align with the triple bob mount, and I completely sheared the first pair of screws I had in there. I ordered some grade 5 titanium screws and added some extra padding around the battery, and that seems to have fixed it. I've taken it close to 200 miles so far without issue, but it definitely seems like yours is toast. I wonder what the motor temp was when it failed. I've gotten mine in the mid 140's (f) but I try not to push it too far. Fastest I've gotten the bike is 49mph so far, running with a 52v 30a/hr battery and 52 tooth inner chain ring. Really hope CYC fixes yours, but I also cringe knowing how long I had to wait just to get 1
@@baconbuttties so do you know which part of the motor broke? i was about to order the x1 gen3 but its quite expensive even more when you have to add custom fee. and now i dont know what to do. its gonna be 1 year in september they released this model maybe ill wait for a gen 4
@@fistouille23 I haven't heard of multiple failures so it's possible mine is just one of a few. I'm not sure what's failed until I take it apart and I will detail the problem in a video
I run the same set up on a Juiced City Scrambler. Stock 750w geared hub with separate controller,throttle,batteries,display. I also run a BBSHD with asi controller that pushes over 3000w with separate battery, display and throttle all running on 52V. BBSHD is whisper quiet and pulls like a son of a bitch.
I have a ristretto 303fs with a cyc motor x1 pro gen 2 and never had any issues with it. It might be the extra weight of the hub motor. Hope you get it fixed. I'm thinking on a mid drive on my cargo bike. Not sure on which one still thinking on the cyc motor but with a quick release axle wheel.
I really don't think it's the weight of the hub as it's easy to pedal in the large gear I had it in and kept in the easy gear all the way. I suppose it would be the same if someone heavier than me had it on their bike.
Hi like your video. I've got a problem we'll it's not a problem it's a question my controller is 45amp I'm making a triangle box just a bit bigger. I've cut hall wires so I'm using choc box connection what amps should I use I mean the wires aren't to thick would it be 15amp or 30amp 60amp are to big I've used them in the past for battery live wires to controlleri don't like bullet connectors it's going the proper ones on Amazon so I thought choc box connector the connection are different on hall wires
@@baconbuttties hi thanks for reply. I'm thinking I've used I'm sure it's 30amp in house points and I've used on ebike battery 52volt to controller so they should be OK for hall wires. The lug connector in yellow plastic box is just a bolt with a nut to keep wires together. I seen on messages them fan cooling fans for hub motor blimy there no cheap. I think I will go on utube to see if anyone has used choc box connection thanks. I haven't seen more videos on ebikes I serpose if you have a good bike. Weather where I live rain all the time great weather for ebikes it's serpose to be summer cheers
I've got one of these (unmodded), It looks like The Fonz bike :) Bummer about the motor. I think you're right, "sounds like bearings" was the first thing I thought when I heard it. Good luck, hope they honor the warantee!
How would the Engwe M20 hold up in the rain etc.... UK weather? I know it says it's IP rated but if it's outside locked up and it rains, would the display, button etc... be ok?
The controller is under the seat so that's okay and I assume the hub will be okay. Headlight and horn switch are rubber type so should be okay. I can't really say about the display and would have to test it, but it looks as if it's water resistant.
Just received my motor’ and was looking forward to fitting probably next week when my battery arrives’’ really hope mine doesn’t have any faults’’ hope you can fix your cyc without to many problems 🤞
I'm not sure, but I haven't heard of anyone else having a problem so I just might be unlucky. Would be nice to know what has happened but I can't look inside as it will void warranty.
have you managed to get another CYC x1 pro gen 3, or fix it? ive got the same bike same colour , but it bogs down oh even slight hills, this looks ideal, thanks.
What a beautiful ebike I just love this bike hey brother I'm sitting in the chair and I feel like it's me on it, I wish you lived near me we could have lot's of fun
Hi I've already give comments I'm wondering I've seen 2000wat motor with cooling fan blades stuck on to keep motor cool I've put the equations to Google and some other Web sites came up nothing but I've seen them do you no where to buy thanks
Is this what you mean? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264330775862?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=2mt-oWtlQrK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Love the build and the power/torque it gave you going up that hill was impressive...shame the CYC motor gave up but hopefully the warranty will cover that.🤞 When you factor in the price of the CYC motor with that bike it's still cheaper than most Super 73s. or similar bikes. Any update from CYC ?
I have been in contact and it looks like they are going to honour the warranty 🙂 Will be an update video soon as I will have to dismantle the CYC motor.
I wanted to ask if and when you're going to change the rear shock absorber, because this bike is giving me severe back pain and I haven't used it for almost 3 weeks. I have a bad feeling I'll have to resell it or take all the electronics out and get myself a custom bike.
if I remember, their was a common issue with one of the gears within or just outside of the motor that was changed from the model 2 to this newer version which had a stronger gear to try and prevent this from happening.
@@baconbuttties the only way to know is to strip the motor down and check if the gears are not broken and nothing is causing the jam maybe, but as far I remember the gen 2 has a gear fail issue.
Keep us updated. I was about to order this motor before I found open firmware for my BBSHD. Now playing with 60v battery and 33 amps. Love your channel!
Please keep us updated. I was looking to get one of these because i believed they were built tough. From the looks of this video my assumtions were wrong
I have a throttle on my 1500w bike but I only use it to get going or I hold it down to get the full motor power of I encounter a steep hill. I mostly use the bike in pedal assist 2 or 3 which is 20-25mph while pedalling.
Would love an M20 but worried about getting stopped by plod,at the moment i have a fido d2s with 250 watt motor,they need to up the limit of watts & top speed,15mph is a joke.
I was looking at buying one of these instead of a Bafang mid drive, but after seeing how unreliable they are, there’s no chance I’ll be buying one, I’ll stick with the befang bbs02, or bbs hd, at least there’s plenty of repair videos on you tube if it goes wrong, and spares are easy to get. Thanks for saving me wasting my money
Lol I just bought bafang 750w complete kit and it's garbage the torque sensing is utter shite in USA ATM still cannot locate cyc stockist who have any in stock all 12 week wait, had 1000w, 1500w rear wheel kits now bafang next is yose power 350w kit see how that fairs esp as lightest complete kit out there 😊
@@howardridge1153try changing the wheel size in the settings on the menu to unlock it code is 1919...should go much better but Speedo won't be accurate anymore....
@@Steven-qm1xo there is no option for changing anything on c965 display , well none I have found as the motor kit came with no instructions to fit nor use!
Nice setup and a good video. But I thought you should change the rear motor and controller to something like 2-3kW. It would look original and be more quiet. This setup is in my opinion to much stuff that can cause problems
Greetings from Tucson Arizona ,USA. Turns out to be a expensive paper weight, but is what you experienced unique or common, if the latter the company must be keeping that information from the public.
Hi you make good videos last time I watched a video you didn't have this bike it was a mountain bike with kit on I think it was. Looking at the bike it looks really complacated and compact. I'm 64 yrs old my bike is 2000wat 45amp controller battery 52v19.5amp on stand 52mph of stand 43mph and gas five pas So is that middrive and rear motor so why have two on you would be better up grading motor and controller and battery then you will be set. Yes it's a nice bike what's the model good video as always hope you get sorted
Great video mate - I've been watching a few recently......... only sort of negative observation is that you're highlighting these 'stickers' - which people will want to use, but if the wrong people are watching - you're pretty much showing them for what they are.............. maybe it's best not to draw attention to these things ? Other than that, great informative videos.
I can't say that i particularly enjoy the look of that battery on top, but it certsinly isn't bad. In fact, it looks like it could come stock on the bike! Too bad about the motor. I hope they cam sort you out.
was that the first ride?? that's crazy, I can't believe it failed like that, same day of the install. It's the new Gen3 too! WTF! In any case mate thank you for the video and please keep us updated with the warranty claim process. I am interested to hear how CYC handles this!
@@baconbuttties thanks for the clarification mate. I am very surprised, only 35 miles on the motor!! It didn't seem like you were doing anything outlandish or abusive when it failed... that's really mind boggling. I hope they sort that out for you!!
I'm surprised you didn't snap the chain. The hub motor or the controller has a speed limiter. So when you reached a certain speed it's like riding with the brakes on. I was thinking that would have happened before I even watched the video. Sorry dude. Hope this don't discourage you. We all learn from are mistakes. Love your videos.
No speed limiter at all as I have set controller to over 60 mph and have also been down a hill faster than I was going up it which was about 30mph . I didn't feel any braking at all. Where did you get this information that it starts braking?
Not that it starts braking but it just won't allow you to go faster. So the hub is restricting the cyc motor. Even though the controller is set at 60 mph it would never allow you to go sixty,right. like on my hub motor bike when I have it in the hardest gear no matter how hard I pedal it will not go faster than 28. I could be wrong. I watched another video from this guy that had a 1500 watt hub motor and he did what you did.his motor didn't fail, but he could not go any faster than he did with his hub motor. So i think he had a similar issue.
Sorry but what you are saying makes no sense at all, there is no limiter or anything. What you are describing is when the motor stops giving you assistance and it feels like its harder. Its just a sensation you are feeling and the hub does not stop you from going any faster. I can absolutely assure you that you are wrong, otherwise you would slow on steep hills.
I read that some brand name bike controllers are hard limited in the controller. So you can't change speed. I only go 30 down hills. With a 52\11 gear. Which is only 2mph faster. I go way faster on my pedal bikes down hills. Good luck, hope you figure it out.
Qs90 is a motor good similar to cyc and can go up to 10kw peak on my system tbqh 3700w @ 48 and 52 volt on the cyc and theres likely to be problems. Dont get their advert
Hey the bike looks like an ebike even with the extr battery. Maybe order a ebike battery sign for it. Defo washer I not tight somewhere. If visiting Arran hit me up we can go for a ride.
Defo I’ve a very basic channel with a couple of videos. Don’t need to like or subscribe as I’m not doing any at the moment until upgrade a few parts. But defo amazing rides big hills for true battery life tests :) but amazing hills to come down :) 68mph downhill is my best but taking it easy until my new big battery comes :)
So whsrbwascwrong regarding that noise and what is top speed. Were you using two motors. I thought this bike came with 750 watch I think you dais 250wat hope you hot that midrive sorted I still think rear hub is better than midrive plus midrive have a reputation of going berzerk good video and the bike looks meaty not sausages more like steak
@@baconbuttties I think my spelling was all over at beginning of message can't understand what happened there so is you midrive motor toast as in finished. I think midrive are better on hills. I bought one ten year back I'm sure it had a clutch. I couldn't get it working properly I got it given it was heavy. Battery in frame I can't get away it being there I like it on back of bike near the saddle. You can feel weight in middle on back it's smooth and great get 2000wat kit with 45amp controller battery 52v 20amp display sw900 so it's five stage peddle assist on stand 51mph on road 46mph but I can drop down to 3 or 2 18mph. I'm thinking of buying stealth frame and swap my kit to frame so it won't look like pit bike. When a kit is on them frames it's easy to maintain instead of mountain bike frame. I still like that bike frame on video
That does sound rather bad - What a shame - You've done basically no mileage on that motor so they should sort it out for you. I have the x1 stealth and have put around 600km on it but that took over 2 years due to all sorts of issues - I hope mine doesn't give up the ghost to quickly. I'm procrastinating over the Photon motor High Voltage put out a great review and I'm ready to make the jump to it. So that will be ebike build no.3 which means purchasing yet another new hard tail... glad the prices have started to drop due to overstocking of them in Australia... Anyway I love your video's keep them coming and hope we see and hear you laughing on that ebike soon.
@@baconbuttties The mid drive or the hub? I have 3 mid drives and 2 hub motors. The hub motors are extremely difficult to pedal without motor assistance.
I don’t understand why he would put two electric motors two batteries and two headlights on one bike ? I don’t know why he doesn’t just go for it and put a jet engine on it, I could picture it now Rolf Harris brother going 150mph down the road. But don’t worry he won’t get stopped because he’s got he’s 250watt sticker 😂
Weight can be offset to a certain degree if you keep it in an easy gear. The motor had no problem at all because I was in the largest cog and motor was spinning fast.
There are few bikes I think look like a motorcycle. Basically ones that are like Sur Ron or onesthe manufacturer make look like a sport bike but let's face those are unlikely to be worth buying.
Hi guys. I bought a Stealth gen1 in 2021 and I can only say that this a piece of crap. I had a lot of problems with bac controller, torque sensor system in bottom bracket failed because of the bad water resistance, glued neodym magnets got loose and caused a crash between rotor and stator a. s. o. When I bought gen1 system, I got just 1year warranty. When now buy gen3, you get 2 years warranty. Sorry, but I feel betrayed. DON'T BUY GEN 3 SYSTEMS (X1 Pro and stealth) BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT RELIABLE YET. Best regards!
U just burned the motor... It was 52v max, so if you drew 35A from this 72v battery, you basically sent 2500W continuous instead of peak. you just had to use a temp sensor to make sure the motor was not overheating.
@@nicod974 on the website for CYC X1 Pro Gen 3. 3500W & 5000W VERSIONS AVAILABLE* 200N.m./280N.m. PEAK TORQUE* 36V to 72V COMPATIBLE It's on there, I promise 👍
@@baconbuttties I'm confused, I got to check the website again, I could only find the nominal specs, which is supposed to be 1500w, but I honestly doubt it. Also I would have gone with bafang, it's a reference for mid drive kits
@@nicod974 100 percent it is capable of 5000 watts. You must be looking at the wrong motor as they do a few different types. www.cycmotor.com/x1-pro-gen-3
It’s motor bike like. But police can’t do anything unless your caught riding dangerously apart from the fact they’re speaking of number plates. But that’ll fail i reckon. Aha
Great video! I hope you get that CYC motor working, nicely, again! God Bless! 👑 *Remember:* Jesus loved us so much that he died on the cross for all of our sins, He was buried and He rose again, on the third day. If we just *Believe* in His finished work and not our own works (good or bad), we will be saved. His imputed righteousness is bestowed upon the believer. God Bless. ✝️ John 3:16 - “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever *Believeth* in him should not perish, but have everlasting life.” ✝️Philippians 3:9-12 - and be found in him, not having mine own righteousness, which is of the law, but that which is through the *Faith* ✝️1 Corinthians 15:1-4 - Moreover, brethren, I declare unto you the gospel which I preached unto you, which also ye have received, and wherein ye stand; by which also ye are saved, if ye keep in memory what I preached unto you, unless ye have *Believed* in vain. For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; and that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures
Un motor central aprovecha mucho mejor la potencia que un HUB, mayor aceleración, mayor velocidad y mayor autonomía, la masa suspendida de un motor HUB en una rueda penaliza mucho, de ahí que las mejores motos y bicicletas eléctricas tienen motor central. Con un motor central puedes subir colinas que son imposibles para un motor HUB. Otra desventaja del motor HUB es su peor disipación del calor, de ahí que una avería común en estos motores con alta potencia continúa es quemar el bobinado. Un motor Bafang BBSHD con ASI BAC855 y 3.250w puede alcanzar las 52mph (84kph) como en mi eBike, para lograr esta misma velocidad con un motor HUB hay que subir a los 5.000w
A mid-drive motor makes much better use of power compared to a hub motor, providing greater acceleration, higher speed, and increased range. The additional weight of a hub motor mounted on a wheel significantly penalizes performance, which is why the best electric motorcycles and bicycles utilize mid-drive motors. With a mid-drive motor, you can conquer hills that would be impossible for a hub motor. Another disadvantage of hub motors is their inferior heat dissipation, resulting in a common issue of burning the winding in high-powered motors. A Bafang BBSHD motor with ASI BAC855 and 3,250 watts can reach speeds of up to 52 mph (84 kph), as seen on my eBike. To achieve the same speed with a hub motor, you would need to increase the power output to 5,000 watts.
@@termikina Hi there, you are right about mid-drive motors. But they are so expensive and eat out your drive chain. I have a 1500w rear hub motor and a1000w front hub motor. on my engwe pro 2 and it eats' any hill any time and i live in Spain and it is very hilly out here...lol. But Mid- Drives are very good if the price was better.
You no I've passed comment I find your video interesting and you seem to no alit of knowledge on ebikes. I went the easy way for my age and bought the kit my battery is om back. Didn't like in frame. I no in frame it balance up bike mine on back but its more to the seat. How can I send photos of my bike people always come to me and ask about the bike it's because I've made it different all the lights motor bike mirror. I don't like the the display sw900 that came with 45amp controller can't keep an eye on battery temperature motor temp if anything happens it would be a number would show. I've suscribed to your channel I find you very interesting and also you get on with anything you might think it will work definitely different from other bike videos. You remix f me of Tony from vortech
Tony from Vortech was one of the channels I watched when starting my ebike journey. You can a pictures of you bike to baconbuttties@gmail.com if you want me to see it 👍
@@colinwhite144 it should go through. Copy and paste my email so it's correct and make sure photos you are sending are no more than 25mb. Best to do one photo at a time 👍 Hopefully that works.
Wait people build these? It's like the Homermobile of bikes... I am surprised it even worked at all. Maybe try a rear IGH if you want more speed AND torque WITH less weight. If you're worried about chains, spend a few hundred on belt transmission from Gates or Veer. If you're going to spend that cash, why would you chase brute force numbers with a kludge guaranteed to fail instead of performance and elegance? This is exactly like putting two motors in a car with two uncoordinated controllers that don't know what each other's sensors or motors are doing and then stepping on the accelerator and expecting it to perform with the sum of powers on paper when it will do as yours did, eat itself when it encounters the right confluence of events in both controllers that have them conflicting instead of synergizing. I would 100% tell a customer, no matter the subs on YT, to get lost on a warranty claim. A top reason small businesses die is cultivating customers that cost them money instead of make it for them. If I was Engwie and someone tried to warranty claim me when I can watch the video of them clobbering their warranty, I'd just ignore it because I'm in China and that's a terrible customer (we want them to go away). I have talked to Cycmotor a bunch about several projects and they're really agreeable people - I hope their liberal warranty polices don't eventually kill the company. They'll work with pretty much anyone on custom projects, you can get bare motors and integration help from them. Once I finish up some "interface" prototypes (cycloidal gearing, magnetic gearing to allow regen/braking to work properly with a freewheel, expanded drivetrains, etc) they're on the short list of vendors. Grin Tech can probably help you (not an affiliate, they just make open controllers and other hardware for PEV) and they have a LOT of educational videos about PEV tech, builds, custom mods, etc available and are constantly updating with new stuff. They are exclusively hub motor designers/developers at this time, though - but everything of theirs is Canadian designed/built in house. They know what they're doing and they share knowledge freely. I have also talked to them a bunch about several projects (controllers, charging, mag-lock type braking, etc) and they will give you loads of advice on integration with your own builds. But man, this is why I unsubbed before and the algo thought to give you another shot - keep doing you but know that there is guidance out there should you wish to seek it, then your projects will be things people want to build instead of choosing between a mortgage payment and buying another one of what you just destroyed. Please ask Cycmotor for help with integration - they will help you, I am sure, and that's likely why they're even giving you warranty consideration. It's an interesting project, albeit disastrously integrated and configured, and as a disabled person who uses a tadpole to get around instead of wheelchair I am myself working on adding braking and reverse in a couple small front hub motors even though my primary drive system is mid drive(TSDZ2B)/belt transmission/enviolo CVT IGH and super strong it can't do reverse or braking on its own. After a while I got tired of arts and crafts projects and wanted to start building things that Just Work(TM) when I want to use them; the process of driving towards designs that work are what's going to bring in the long-term subs instead of people just wanting some temporary entertainment in the "fails" category (which has already been dominated by several other brands).
Why are you surprised it even worked???? The rear hub motor was not turned on. You really are not making much sense as I was just using one motor not two. I modify ebikes to see what works and what doesn't work and I enjoy doing it. You have totally misunderstood what I was doing.
Police like e-bikes too. They’re not worried. They may stop you just to check it out but they’ll never impound it. Just show them the 250w sticker and that will suffice.
Hope so 👍
I love that us, savvy seniors are getting healthier every day on these amazing machines. Have a 3000w hub coming in a few days. Woohoo! Btw, Horrible feeling when your e-bike stops running far from home. At least you can limp home. Lol. Been there, done that Good luck friend 🤞🏽
3000 watt hub motor... Nice 👍
You get a Sympathy Like from me, mate. Most ebikers with "enhanced" systems have or will have problems at some point, it's part of the fun and for me at least, trial and error are a big part of the learning curve.
Thanks, and hopefully it all ends well.
My latest powerful bike is literally a pocket rocket! In essence a cheap 20'' argos folding bike, but fitted with a bonkers 1500w/52v20amp rear wheel conversion kit it does 45 mph and hauls ass up hills! Cost just £800 for the complete kit
Sounds good 👍👍
This is soooo dope man I hope you can figure it out because this is the best Engwe M20 I’ve seen yet😎Hope you can get it together dude and stay safe out there on your rides my guy🤟✌️
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Troubles aside that is a fantastic looking bike. 🙂🙂
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Mr. Butties, I installed a 210mm rear coil dnm shock and not only did it make the ride so much better it also raised the seat a little bit. Longer rear shocks are possible to install on this bike
That's good to know, thanks for the info 👍
Same everywhere. Glue holding the magnets let's go when hot, run on stater. Fix fast. Or Alot more damage to bearings.
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This is exactly what I'm planning for my YYG Br100. Hopefully that battery fits ! I like the look
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Loved this video cheers buddy
Seems a beast
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It looks spot on. I’ve been wanting to build my own bike for a about 6 months but the only mid drive i can get my hands on is a BBSHD 1000W.
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Hey yes looks good.
What does the bike weigh with your additions. Hope you straighten out the cyc.
I don't know what the bike weighed, it was a bit weighty though. I gave up on the CYC motor.
i bought couple bike shengmilo mx21 500watt love the bike ride really nice, but my best bike which covers everything i need speed n power GUNAI X20 Electric Bike Off Road 48v 2000 Watt Fat Bike, she does 35,5 mph and range 40 to 60 miles which i love , love ya vid BaconButties be safe
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Thanks for video! Hello from 🇱🇹 Lithuania!
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Wow. I have the gen 3 with the same battery combo on my mountain bike. Mounting the battery was definitely interesting. There are only 2 holes that align with the triple bob mount, and I completely sheared the first pair of screws I had in there. I ordered some grade 5 titanium screws and added some extra padding around the battery, and that seems to have fixed it. I've taken it close to 200 miles so far without issue, but it definitely seems like yours is toast. I wonder what the motor temp was when it failed. I've gotten mine in the mid 140's (f) but I try not to push it too far. Fastest I've gotten the bike is 49mph so far, running with a 52v 30a/hr battery and 52 tooth inner chain ring.
Really hope CYC fixes yours, but I also cringe knowing how long I had to wait just to get 1
Yes hopefully they fix it, the funny thing is last time I used it on a hill before this ride it didn't get hot at all.
@@baconbuttties so do you know which part of the motor broke? i was about to order the x1 gen3 but its quite expensive even more when you have to add custom fee. and now i dont know what to do. its gonna be 1 year in september they released this model maybe ill wait for a gen 4
@@fistouille23 I haven't heard of multiple failures so it's possible mine is just one of a few. I'm not sure what's failed until I take it apart and I will detail the problem in a video
@@baconbuttties ok great thank you for the reply 🙏🏼
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I run the same set up on a Juiced City Scrambler. Stock 750w geared hub with separate controller,throttle,batteries,display. I also run a BBSHD with asi controller that pushes over 3000w with separate battery, display and throttle all running on 52V. BBSHD is whisper quiet and pulls like a son of a bitch.
Yes I had a stock BBSHD and it was good.👍
I have a ristretto 303fs with a cyc motor x1 pro gen 2 and never had any issues with it. It might be the extra weight of the hub motor. Hope you get it fixed. I'm thinking on a mid drive on my cargo bike. Not sure on which one still thinking on the cyc motor but with a quick release axle wheel.
I really don't think it's the weight of the hub as it's easy to pedal in the large gear I had it in and kept in the easy gear all the way. I suppose it would be the same if someone heavier than me had it on their bike.
Hi like your video. I've got a problem we'll it's not a problem it's a question my controller is 45amp I'm making a triangle box just a bit bigger. I've cut hall wires so I'm using choc box connection what amps should I use I mean the wires aren't to thick would it be 15amp or 30amp 60amp are to big I've used them in the past for battery live wires to controlleri don't like bullet connectors it's going the proper ones on Amazon so I thought choc box connector the connection are different on hall wires
Choc box connection is usually rated for 240 volt if im thinking of the right ones. Higher Voltage Decreases Amps so I'm not sure what you need.
@@baconbuttties hi thanks for reply. I'm thinking I've used I'm sure it's 30amp in house points and I've used on ebike battery 52volt to controller so they should be OK for hall wires. The lug connector in yellow plastic box is just a bolt with a nut to keep wires together. I seen on messages them fan cooling fans for hub motor blimy there no cheap. I think I will go on utube to see if anyone has used choc box connection thanks. I haven't seen more videos on ebikes I serpose if you have a good bike. Weather where I live rain all the time great weather for ebikes it's serpose to be summer cheers
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great video... wow 1k thats alot
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I've got one of these (unmodded), It looks like The Fonz bike :) Bummer about the motor. I think you're right, "sounds like bearings" was the first thing I thought when I heard it. Good luck, hope they honor the warantee!
I did like the Fonz bike 👍
Looks awesome mate!!
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How would the Engwe M20 hold up in the rain etc.... UK weather? I know it says it's IP rated but if it's outside locked up and it rains, would the display, button etc... be ok?
The controller is under the seat so that's okay and I assume the hub will be okay.
Headlight and horn switch are rubber type so should be okay. I can't really say about the display and would have to test it, but it looks as if it's water resistant.
@@baconbuttties That make sense, thanks for the speedy reply!
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Just received my motor’ and was looking forward to fitting probably next week when my battery arrives’’ really hope mine doesn’t have any faults’’ hope you can fix your cyc without to many problems 🤞
I think yours will be fine and mine is just a one off 🤞
@@baconbuttties I hope your right ' you work very hard getting the videos out I'm always happy to see baconbutties has another one to watch ...
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do you know what happened exactly? i want to order same motor in august and i hope i didn't get any problem at my motor
I'm not sure, but I haven't heard of anyone else having a problem so I just might be unlucky. Would be nice to know what has happened but I can't look inside as it will void warranty.
@@baconbuttties oh ok. please do more content about cyc motor, i'm very interested and i watch all your video about this motor
@@dragos32 I will definitely do an update video on it.
have you managed to get another CYC x1 pro gen 3, or fix it? ive got the same bike same colour , but it bogs down oh even slight hills, this looks ideal, thanks.
They sent me a replacement but I sold the motor as I lost confidence in it.
I'm not the only one to have a similar problem.
thanks, will you be putting the new motor you mentioned is out now, the gen 4 on a bike please? ive got the m20 twin battery bike also@@baconbuttties
Thats a shame about the CYC, please keep us updated on how CYC handles this.
Yes I will give an update on how CYC handles it 👍
What a beautiful ebike I just love this bike hey brother I'm sitting in the chair and I feel like it's me on it, I wish you lived near me we could have lot's of fun
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hey@@baconbuttties, so do you know more about which part of the motor broke ?
@@fistouille23 not yet, will post a video when I do 👍
I’m new to e bikes just wondering if I wanted to add an additional motor what would be a good option.
It didn't go well for me.
Some people have tried putting a front hub motor on but it's tricky.
Hi I've already give comments I'm wondering I've seen 2000wat motor with cooling fan blades stuck on to keep motor cool I've put the equations to Google and some other Web sites came up nothing but I've seen them do you no where to buy thanks
I know what you mean but have never looked for them myself, will take a look and see what I can find 👍
Is this what you mean? www.ebay.co.uk/itm/264330775862?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=2mt-oWtlQrK&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Love the build and the power/torque it gave you going up that hill was impressive...shame the CYC motor gave up but hopefully the warranty will cover that.🤞
When you factor in the price of the CYC motor with that bike it's still cheaper than most Super 73s. or similar bikes.
Any update from CYC ?
I have been in contact and it looks like they are going to honour the warranty 🙂
Will be an update video soon as I will have to dismantle the CYC motor.
@@baconbuttties Good news hopefully it does not take to long to get sorted, were are CYC based ?
@@peaheaduk everything is shipped from China I think, but usually comes in less than a week for me.
Looks cool...love the channel ❤👍🚲🚴♂️🚴♀️
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Man that looks cool as balls I really like it nice one mate 🚵👍
Thanks 👍👍
I wanted to ask if and when you're going to change the rear shock absorber, because this bike is giving me severe back pain and I haven't used it for almost 3 weeks. I have a bad feeling I'll have to resell it or take all the electronics out and get myself a custom bike.
Someone mentioned to me that they fitted a 210mm DNM shock and said it was far more comfortable.
Nice vid, good luck with the bike. what mount are you using for the camera facing you sticking up off the handlebars?
I will have look for the link, got it of Amazon.
That"s a shame butt hope you get it sorted keep up with the great content.
Thanks 👍
Hi mr buttie, where did you get the 250w stickers?
It was either Amazon or eBay
if I remember, their was a common issue with one of the gears within or just outside of the motor that was changed from the model 2 to this newer version which had a stronger gear to try and prevent this from happening.
Does feel like gears have failed and are jamming.
@@baconbuttties the only way to know is to strip the motor down and check if the gears are not broken and nothing is causing the jam maybe, but as far I remember the gen 2 has a gear fail issue.
@@welshwhoopee I would like to have a peak but can't open it due to warranty.
@@baconbuttties fair enough dude, the only issue is the waiting game while its got to be sent back to us?
@@welshwhoopee yes I expect a long wait 😦
Looks great 😊
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How did you manage to get hold of a cyc x1 pro gen 3. When i contacted them they told me that they don’t ship to the Uk. Thanks
It was last November and I asked and they sent it.
Thanks. Keep up the good work you do, I love your vids, very entertaining 😀
@@dereksmith2152 Thanks 👍
keep us posted on the motor good video 😁
Yes, will do a follow up video 👍
did you get an error code when changing the brakes at all
I didn't get any error codes
The Massive Akku looks like a Petroltank.😄 Looks super good, but the Screws are tiny🧐
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That jst absolutely gutting when your bike build has issues, hope you get it sorted mete
Should be able to get it sorted, CYC have been pretty good so far 👍
Keep us updated. I was about to order this motor before I found open firmware for my BBSHD. Now playing with 60v battery and 33 amps. Love your channel!
BBSHD Should be great with 60v and 33 amps 👍 there will be an update.
can you link to the fimware and was it easy to install?
What’s the max speed you’re getting
Have you links for the 72 v kit please
I wouldn't buy the CYC motor as it broke on the test ride
Please keep us updated. I was looking to get one of these because i believed they were built tough. From the looks of this video my assumtions were wrong
Will have an update on the channel as soon as get some feedback from CYC, but it may just be a one off as I haven't heard of others going wrong. 👍
@@baconbuttties thank you for taking your time to respond to everyone 👍
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If I personally ever switch to a throttle, it's all over for me fitness wise! Pedelecs have their place for sure!
It's the hills that always get me, and there are loads in Wales.
I have a throttle on my 1500w bike but I only use it to get going or I hold it down to get the full motor power of I encounter a steep hill. I mostly use the bike in pedal assist 2 or 3 which is 20-25mph while pedalling.
Please wear some protective gear, Your travelling as fast as a motorcycle. Great video 💪
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Would love an M20 but worried about getting stopped by plod,at the moment i have a fido d2s with 250 watt motor,they need to up the limit of watts & top speed,15mph is a joke.
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Looks good bro
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beautiful, what is the link to the battery please ?
@@saidt822 That was quite a while ago, will have to search to see if it's still available
Ok thanks🙏🙏🙏
Hope you get it fixed buddy hopefully it’s nothing to bad
I think the motor is beyond saving and will have to be replaced.
Not good mate hopefully the company will swap it for you 🤞
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It's a good looking bike.
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Run it again sending you lucky 🍀 charms!
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Were you using your high gears when starting from stationary?
Low gear at all times
@@baconbuttties That's very unfortunate to hear that the Gen3 are failing :( Hope you get back on the road soon
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It looks great
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You ever get it fixed? What was it?
@@wolfreaperx222 magnets cracked
It looks awesome mate if i had the money id get the frame and build it to my spec's
Building bikes to your own specs is always the best way 😯
I was looking at buying one of these instead of a Bafang mid drive, but after seeing how unreliable they are, there’s no chance I’ll be buying one, I’ll stick with the befang bbs02, or bbs hd, at least there’s plenty of repair videos on you tube if it goes wrong, and spares are easy to get. Thanks for saving me wasting my money
Hopefully it's a one off as I haven't seen any multiple failures being mentioned.
Lol I just bought bafang 750w complete kit and it's garbage the torque sensing is utter shite in USA ATM still cannot locate cyc stockist who have any in stock all 12 week wait, had 1000w, 1500w rear wheel kits now bafang next is yose power 350w kit see how that fairs esp as lightest complete kit out there 😊
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@@howardridge1153try changing the wheel size in the settings on the menu to unlock it code is 1919...should go much better but Speedo won't be accurate anymore....
@@Steven-qm1xo there is no option for changing anything on c965 display
, well none I have found as the motor kit came with no instructions to fit nor use!
Nice setup and a good video. But I thought you should change the rear motor and controller to something like 2-3kW. It would look original and be more quiet. This setup is in my opinion to much stuff that can cause problems
I might still go that route at a later date. 👍
Love the vids. Liking the look of it. Defo looks a bit motorbikey... Hopefully doesn't grab the attention of any bored popo
It does look very motorbikey 😮
LIKE from BROOKLYN NY
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Greetings from Tucson Arizona ,USA. Turns out to be a expensive paper weight, but is what you experienced unique or common, if the latter the company must be keeping that information from the public.
It may be a one off as I haven't heard of multiple failures 👍
Hi you make good videos last time I watched a video you didn't have this bike it was a mountain bike with kit on I think it was. Looking at the bike it looks really complacated and compact. I'm 64 yrs old my bike is 2000wat 45amp controller battery 52v19.5amp on stand 52mph of stand 43mph and gas five pas
So is that middrive and rear motor so why have two on you would be better up grading motor and controller and battery then you will be set. Yes it's a nice bike what's the model good video as always hope you get sorted
I had the mid drive already so thought I would give it a go and try it it on the Engwe M20 frame. It was good for the 10 minutes it lasted 👍
Great video mate - I've been watching a few recently......... only sort of negative observation is that you're highlighting these 'stickers' - which people will want to use, but if the wrong people are watching - you're pretty much showing them for what they are.............. maybe it's best not to draw attention to these things ? Other than that, great informative videos.
The stickers are just bit of fun because I don't think anyone would believe that bike is 250 watts, but I know what you mean 👍
@@baconbuttties keep up the great vids - this ebike technology is fantastic, atb, Chris
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How much does it cost to insure when on the road ?
You would have to register it before you could insure it.
I can't say that i particularly enjoy the look of that battery on top, but it certsinly isn't bad. In fact, it looks like it could come stock on the bike! Too bad about the motor. I hope they cam sort you out.
Hope they can sort it too 👍👍
was that the first ride?? that's crazy, I can't believe it failed like that, same day of the install. It's the new Gen3 too! WTF! In any case mate thank you for the video and please keep us updated with the warranty claim process. I am interested to hear how CYC handles this!
I did have the motor on a different bike and did a few videos on the channel. Total mileage on the motor is only 34.5 miles.
@@baconbuttties thanks for the clarification mate. I am very surprised, only 35 miles on the motor!! It didn't seem like you were doing anything outlandish or abusive when it failed... that's really mind boggling. I hope they sort that out for you!!
@@EBikeBuilder_ Yes, I wasn't pushing the motor hard at all. No full throttle.
I'm surprised you didn't snap the chain. The hub motor or the controller has a speed limiter. So when you reached a certain speed it's like riding with the brakes on. I was thinking that would have happened before I even watched the video. Sorry dude. Hope this don't discourage you. We all learn from are mistakes. Love your videos.
No speed limiter at all as I have set controller to over 60 mph and have also been down a hill faster than I was going up it which was about 30mph .
I didn't feel any braking at all.
Where did you get this information that it starts braking?
Not that it starts braking but it just won't allow you to go faster. So the hub is restricting the cyc motor. Even though the controller is set at 60 mph it would never allow you to go sixty,right. like on my hub motor bike when I have it in the hardest gear no matter how hard I pedal it will not go faster than 28. I could be wrong. I watched another video from this guy that had a 1500 watt hub motor and he did what you did.his motor didn't fail, but he could not go any faster than he did with his hub motor. So i think he had a similar issue.
Justin . I love your comment . Please give us the information where you know this.
Sorry but what you are saying makes no sense at all, there is no limiter or anything. What you are describing is when the motor stops giving you assistance and it feels like its harder. Its just a sensation you are feeling and the hub does not stop you from going any faster.
I can absolutely assure you that you are wrong, otherwise you would slow on steep hills.
I read that some brand name bike controllers are hard limited in the controller. So you can't change speed. I only go 30 down hills. With a 52\11 gear. Which is only 2mph faster. I go way faster on my pedal bikes down hills. Good luck, hope you figure it out.
Qs90 is a motor good similar to cyc and can go up to 10kw peak on my system tbqh 3700w @ 48 and 52 volt on the cyc and theres likely to be problems. Dont get their advert
Sounds like you got a dud either way
QS motors are good 👍
that noise would do my head in. my stock bbshd is silent (though nowhere near as fast!)
I wonder if mine was more noisy because it was on its way out?
@@baconbuttties from other videos I have seen I think the noise yours made at the start was normal
@@djneils100 yeah maybe it is , but It seemed noisy to me though than when I last used it.
@@baconbuttties it's hard to say just off a video so you could be right - are CYC going to exchange it?
Hey the bike looks like an ebike even with the extr battery. Maybe order a ebike battery sign for it.
Defo washer I not tight somewhere.
If visiting Arran hit me up we can go for a ride.
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I’ve a lovely b&b on Arran and the cycling here is awesome :) I’ve only 2000w so need to wait for me if can get over 45mph on the flat lol
@@ahaelectric78 some nice places to cycle there is it?
Defo I’ve a very basic channel with a couple of videos.
Don’t need to like or subscribe as I’m not doing any at the moment until upgrade a few parts. But defo amazing rides big hills for true battery life tests :) but amazing hills to come down :) 68mph downhill is my best but taking it easy until my new big battery comes :)
@@ahaelectric78 68mph is super fast 😯
So whsrbwascwrong regarding that noise and what is top speed. Were you using two motors. I thought this bike came with 750 watch I think you dais 250wat hope you hot that midrive sorted I still think rear hub is better than midrive plus midrive have a reputation of going berzerk good video and the bike looks meaty not sausages more like steak
Just using the mid motor which is toast.
@@baconbuttties I think my spelling was all over at beginning of message can't understand what happened there so is you midrive motor toast as in finished. I think midrive are better on hills. I bought one ten year back I'm sure it had a clutch. I couldn't get it working properly I got it given it was heavy. Battery in frame I can't get away it being there I like it on back of bike near the saddle. You can feel weight in middle on back it's smooth and great get 2000wat kit with 45amp controller battery 52v 20amp display sw900 so it's five stage peddle assist on stand 51mph on road 46mph but I can drop down to 3 or 2 18mph. I'm thinking of buying stealth frame and swap my kit to frame so it won't look like pit bike. When a kit is on them frames it's easy to maintain instead of mountain bike frame. I still like that bike frame on video
That does sound rather bad - What a shame - You've done basically no mileage on that motor so they should sort it out for you.
I have the x1 stealth and have put around 600km on it but that took over 2 years due to all sorts of issues - I hope mine doesn't give up the ghost to quickly. I'm procrastinating over the Photon motor High Voltage put out a great review and I'm ready to make the jump to it. So that will be ebike build no.3 which means purchasing yet another new hard tail... glad the prices have started to drop due to overstocking of them in Australia... Anyway I love your video's keep them coming and hope we see and hear you laughing on that ebike soon.
I do hope it does get sorted, but I think this motor has cooked itself 😮
Yikes I have 120 miles on my gen3 x1 pro, I'll be checking in to see how they handle this failure.
They have sent me a replacement.
@@baconbuttties Great to hear that cyc handled it like champs!
@@BroosDager there may be more to this story so stay tuned 👍
Thanks and good luck, I've been loving mine, a 72v batt on a 13yr old Santa Cruz tallboy. Getting ready to put the brake sensors on mine soon.
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can you let me know you P setting 1-8 my bike will only get up to 20 mph
P1 48
P2 23 in
P3 37 Mile/hr
P3 01
P5 01
P6 20
P6 12
P8 PSd-n
@@baconbuttties Thank you I will try it
@@baconbuttties what about P7 setting?
@@c2k12 P7 must of been 12 and I wrote P6 twice.
If you got a standard 20 inch rim, without a hub motor weighing it down with that mid drive, I bet it would be a lot more reliable.
What if a person who is 20 kg heavier than me had the same motor?
@@baconbuttties The mid drive or the hub? I have 3 mid drives and 2 hub motors. The hub motors are extremely difficult to pedal without motor assistance.
@@skullparty7638 this hub isn't that difficult to pedal as it's quite small.
wow that was unexpected , may be you got a bad motor ? is this covered by warranty?
It should be covered by warranty. Have been in contact with CYC but they need to know everything that's wrong so it's taking a while to communicate.
And I'm afraid if you send back the motor for repair and then send you back to you, you will have to pay for custom fee again, no?!
@@fistouille23 they are sending out new parts to me free of charge.
@@baconbuttties oh that's great to here
@@fistouille23 👍
Buy a Bafang BBHSD Ive done 6000 miles on mine trouble free,.
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Damnn there expensive ill be pissed thinking to just order a bbshd now
Yes they are expensive but really good when they work 😮
Is it allowed in Germany?
Do you mean is it legal? Or can you buy it in Germany?
@@baconbutttiesI wanted to know both. loved your videos
@@arifurrahmankhan6323 not a legal road ebike and yes they are sold in mainland Europe 👍👍
At the end you didn't told us why the motor didn't fit inside the frame...
@@gianlucabattistellomarches2602 I can't remember why, it was so long ago.
@@baconbuttties thank you for your quick answer =) i ll put a cyc gen4 on my m20 and see if it fits inside to have better ground clearance
@@gianlucabattistellomarches2602 you are going to try it are you?
It looks like a motorcycle with that big battery.
It does a bit 😯
This funny Noise is a Nightmare.
Suport, Sub and👍
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It looks like a Moped and is quite possibly very close to being capable of being registered as one.
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I don’t understand why he would put two electric motors two batteries and two headlights on one bike ? I don’t know why he doesn’t just go for it and put a jet engine on it, I could picture it now
Rolf Harris brother going 150mph
down the road. But don’t worry he won’t get stopped because he’s got he’s 250watt sticker 😂
Jet engine is on order 👍
Hey I have an m20 with an nb power hub motor
Probably be better than the cyc
How well did it fit, any modifications to make it fit?
You should be aware of the max load weight of the bike witch includes your body and the extra weight you carry with the extra cells in the pack.
Weight can be offset to a certain degree if you keep it in an easy gear. The motor had no problem at all because I was in the largest cog and motor was spinning fast.
Harris does ebikes
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There are few bikes I think look like a motorcycle. Basically ones that are like Sur Ron or onesthe manufacturer make look like a sport bike but let's face those are unlikely to be worth buying.
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Hi guys. I bought a Stealth gen1 in 2021 and I can only say that this a piece of crap. I had a lot of problems with bac controller, torque sensor system in bottom bracket failed because of the bad water resistance, glued neodym magnets got loose and caused a crash between rotor and stator a. s. o.
When I bought gen1 system, I got just 1year warranty. When now buy gen3, you get 2 years warranty.
Sorry, but I feel betrayed.
DON'T BUY GEN 3 SYSTEMS (X1 Pro and stealth) BECAUSE THEY ARE NOT RELIABLE YET.
Best regards!
U just burned the motor... It was 52v max, so if you drew 35A from this 72v battery, you basically sent 2500W continuous instead of peak. you just had to use a temp sensor to make sure the motor was not overheating.
The motor has a temperature sensor and can take 5000 watts according to CYC.
@@baconbuttties I couldn't find these specs on the website but that sounds impossible
@@nicod974 on the website for CYC X1 Pro Gen 3.
3500W & 5000W
VERSIONS AVAILABLE*
200N.m./280N.m.
PEAK TORQUE*
36V to 72V
COMPATIBLE
It's on there, I promise 👍
@@baconbuttties I'm confused, I got to check the website again, I could only find the nominal specs, which is supposed to be 1500w, but I honestly doubt it.
Also I would have gone with bafang, it's a reference for mid drive kits
@@nicod974 100 percent it is capable of 5000 watts.
You must be looking at the wrong motor as they do a few different types.
www.cycmotor.com/x1-pro-gen-3
It buy a frame that was ment to say
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come on bbttt whats up with motor
I'm about to do a video soooooon
It’s motor bike like. But police can’t do anything unless your caught riding dangerously apart from the fact they’re speaking of number plates. But that’ll fail i reckon. Aha
I hope number plates don't happen for ebikes 😮
@@baconbuttties me too.
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I thought Rolf Harris was dead......
Haha bloody cheek
Great video! I hope you get that CYC motor working, nicely, again! God Bless!
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you can get cheaper hub motors, just seen the price of that one, well over priced
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This mod makes no sense to me... Why didn't you just go with a 3kw rear hub motor instead ? Those mid motors are noisy and weak
Because mid motors use the gears and are lighter and fantastic at hill climbing, well until they break.
Un motor central aprovecha mucho mejor la potencia que un HUB, mayor aceleración, mayor velocidad y mayor autonomía, la masa suspendida de un motor HUB en una rueda penaliza mucho, de ahí que las mejores motos y bicicletas eléctricas tienen motor central. Con un motor central puedes subir colinas que son imposibles para un motor HUB. Otra desventaja del motor HUB es su peor disipación del calor, de ahí que una avería común en estos motores con alta potencia continúa es quemar el bobinado.
Un motor Bafang BBSHD con ASI BAC855 y 3.250w puede alcanzar las 52mph (84kph) como en mi eBike, para lograr esta misma velocidad con un motor HUB hay que subir a los 5.000w
A mid-drive motor makes much better use of power compared to a hub motor, providing greater acceleration, higher speed, and increased range. The additional weight of a hub motor mounted on a wheel significantly penalizes performance, which is why the best electric motorcycles and bicycles utilize mid-drive motors. With a mid-drive motor, you can conquer hills that would be impossible for a hub motor. Another disadvantage of hub motors is their inferior heat dissipation, resulting in a common issue of burning the winding in high-powered motors.
A Bafang BBSHD motor with ASI BAC855 and 3,250 watts can reach speeds of up to 52 mph (84 kph), as seen on my eBike. To achieve the same speed with a hub motor, you would need to increase the power output to 5,000 watts.
@@termikina Hi there, you are right about mid-drive motors. But they are so expensive and eat out your drive chain. I have a 1500w rear hub motor and a1000w front hub motor. on my engwe pro 2 and it eats' any hill any time and i live in Spain and it is very hilly out here...lol. But Mid- Drives are very good if the price was better.
A 750 watt mid drive is more "powerful" than a weak 3kw hub motor because it uses the gearing of the bike
You no I've passed comment I find your video interesting and you seem to no alit of knowledge on ebikes. I went the easy way for my age and bought the kit my battery is om back. Didn't like in frame. I no in frame it balance up bike mine on back but its more to the seat. How can I send photos of my bike people always come to me and ask about the bike it's because I've made it different all the lights motor bike mirror. I don't like the the display sw900 that came with 45amp controller can't keep an eye on battery temperature motor temp if anything happens it would be a number would show. I've suscribed to your channel I find you very interesting and also you get on with anything you might think it will work definitely different from other bike videos. You remix f me of Tony from vortech
Tony from Vortech was one of the channels I watched when starting my ebike journey. You can a pictures of you bike to baconbuttties@gmail.com if you want me to see it 👍
@@baconbuttties hi I typed your Gmail to send photos and it didn't go through
@@colinwhite144 it should go through. Copy and paste my email so it's correct and make sure photos you are sending are no more than 25mb.
Best to do one photo at a time 👍
Hopefully that works.
@@colinwhite144 there's also a Facebook link on my about page and you send through messenger.
Wait people build these? It's like the Homermobile of bikes...
I am surprised it even worked at all.
Maybe try a rear IGH if you want more speed AND torque WITH less weight. If you're worried about chains, spend a few hundred on belt transmission from Gates or Veer.
If you're going to spend that cash, why would you chase brute force numbers with a kludge guaranteed to fail instead of performance and elegance?
This is exactly like putting two motors in a car with two uncoordinated controllers that don't know what each other's sensors or motors are doing and then stepping on the accelerator and expecting it to perform with the sum of powers on paper when it will do as yours did, eat itself when it encounters the right confluence of events in both controllers that have them conflicting instead of synergizing.
I would 100% tell a customer, no matter the subs on YT, to get lost on a warranty claim. A top reason small businesses die is cultivating customers that cost them money instead of make it for them. If I was Engwie and someone tried to warranty claim me when I can watch the video of them clobbering their warranty, I'd just ignore it because I'm in China and that's a terrible customer (we want them to go away).
I have talked to Cycmotor a bunch about several projects and they're really agreeable people - I hope their liberal warranty polices don't eventually kill the company. They'll work with pretty much anyone on custom projects, you can get bare motors and integration help from them. Once I finish up some "interface" prototypes (cycloidal gearing, magnetic gearing to allow regen/braking to work properly with a freewheel, expanded drivetrains, etc) they're on the short list of vendors.
Grin Tech can probably help you (not an affiliate, they just make open controllers and other hardware for PEV) and they have a LOT of educational videos about PEV tech, builds, custom mods, etc available and are constantly updating with new stuff. They are exclusively hub motor designers/developers at this time, though - but everything of theirs is Canadian designed/built in house. They know what they're doing and they share knowledge freely. I have also talked to them a bunch about several projects (controllers, charging, mag-lock type braking, etc) and they will give you loads of advice on integration with your own builds.
But man, this is why I unsubbed before and the algo thought to give you another shot - keep doing you but know that there is guidance out there should you wish to seek it, then your projects will be things people want to build instead of choosing between a mortgage payment and buying another one of what you just destroyed. Please ask Cycmotor for help with integration - they will help you, I am sure, and that's likely why they're even giving you warranty consideration. It's an interesting project, albeit disastrously integrated and configured, and as a disabled person who uses a tadpole to get around instead of wheelchair I am myself working on adding braking and reverse in a couple small front hub motors even though my primary drive system is mid drive(TSDZ2B)/belt transmission/enviolo CVT IGH and super strong it can't do reverse or braking on its own.
After a while I got tired of arts and crafts projects and wanted to start building things that Just Work(TM) when I want to use them; the process of driving towards designs that work are what's going to bring in the long-term subs instead of people just wanting some temporary entertainment in the "fails" category (which has already been dominated by several other brands).
Why are you surprised it even worked????
The rear hub motor was not turned on. You really are not making much sense as I was just using one motor not two.
I modify ebikes to see what works and what doesn't work and I enjoy doing it.
You have totally misunderstood what I was doing.