I am looking to replace my pedal commander because I have encountered the dreaded dead pedal twice now. Do you still use and how has your experience been for a year now? Thanks in advance.
Great job on the video Jon! Thanks for making it. I had a Pedal Commander for a couple weeks, and I returned it simply because I needed the cash at that time for another project. I still say that modifying the throttle response is the single best performance mod you can do for the money. People confuse "performance" with "horsepower" all the time. Sure, this thing doesn't give you more horsepower, and some make the argument that throttle response modifiers don't do anything that mashing the pedal down harder can't do, but by making it more responsive, they reduce the amount of work it is to interact with your car. It removes an obstacle between the driver and the experience. That's performance.
I just installed mine today & man this thing is legit. I installed this in an Acura TLX Type S which I might be the first to have done this on this particular car & man it's been a blast especially in race mode paired with sport plus, & it's made my high flow cats & sport exhaust sound even louder. So if you're on the fence about this don't hesitate go get it, oh and by the way the installation is easy
These do great for 4Runner at fixing the throttle response, BUT you can do SO much better! I started with a Sprint Booster, then got a Yotawerx tune. The tune actually gives you increased power and torque PLUS the pedal response. To boot, fixes the constant hunting of the transmission highway driving. Way better solution.
Bought one of these for my 16 T4R after I saw your video; what a difference! I love it; wish I had it since I bought the truck new. Just so much more fun to drive. Seems like 35% Sport is my sweet spot, and seems like that setting keeps it from downshifting too much. Thanks so much for the video.
I had a pedal commander but after a month it made the 4runner pedal really twitchy and sensitive. Even with diff settings they always seemed to have an issue. I didn’t like it after that. At first I loved it enough to leave a good review as everyone else did. Then removed it as every one else did lol.
The throttle response curves are completely different on the pedal commander, which are not a linear curve but more like a 90 degree turn, which is what makes them dangerous & if the pedal commander loses power, your pedal loses input & dies also. Banks Pedal Monster uses the obdi port and deactivates on reverse, & below 10mph in forward & will bypass to OEM pedal if it loses power. I'm unsure about ShiftPower Throttle Response Controller by ISS Automotive. They don't list any safety features on their website, but definitely, any pedal controller needs to be disabled or dialed back at low speeds.
FYI I did the same, but, if you are still in the return window, check out the Banks. I'm about to remove my pedal commander and sell it and install the Banks that just arrived. Do a little research you will see why..I wish I had! no fail-safe on the PC, goes in limp mode if there is an issue and jumpy in reverse. I did / do like the PC but i do not like it in reverse or at low speeds while parking.
@@anthon300 I have had no issues (with the PC) so far, but the Banks is designed safer and love the well thought-out low speed and reverse features.. I'll be installing it in the next few days. Banks is a good company I trust. I had not known they made one until recently, or I'd have gone that way from the get-go !
So considering each of the 4 settings on the Pedal Commander has 9 ‘levels’ (- 1-4, standard setting, and + 1-4), it’s basically the PC, with a lockout. Which IS a cool feature.
This one also has the option of three different throttle response curves. I previously tried a Sprint Booster and liked the ability to disconnect the remote while it stored the last setting, but it didn’t have a phone app to adjust without the remote. For the Shift Power I haven’t seen any any instructions suggest it can be installed without the wired remote, but I installed mine without connecting the remote, and it works great by just adjusting through the app. I believe that’s another thing the PC doesn’t give the option of. Who likes a bulky remote one display?
I want this for my 21 Acura TLX Type S. I returned my Pedal Commander before I even installed it because of problems so many people have had with car being thrown into limp mode
Hey man great video we just got a 2023 limited 4runner is there any factory warranty issue with installing this product. Thanks and keep up the good work
Jon, a couple of questions. If you have it in sport or race mode, and you put it in reverse does this enhancer revert to original factory settings? 2. If the unit fails (i.e. hardware/software issue) does the units revert to factory settings or will I have to disconnect the unit and restore wiring to pre install? I ask because these are the main selling features (for me) to buy the Banks Pedal Monster. Thanks
Not sure about the failsafe. You'd need to ask them about that one. It hasn't failed on me in the years ive been running it. I don't put it in race mode, but it feels that reverse mimics the setting it is in.
might be redundant but two questions, have you had any issues with this throwing codes, or going into limp mode? if so how often and what is the fix. 2nd questions, does the model linked in your video work for the 2022 4runner as well? doesn't explicitly say it on the website.
May be stupid questions…can you change your modes while driving, whereas PC recommends (that I’ve heard) stopping before shifting onto a different mode. Also, when I plugged in my PC, I burned my knuckles on the the silver tubes you have this tie strapped to. Will the straps melt or the cord that touches those? I do like this gadget! What are the possibilities of throwing the 4Runner into limp mode?
@@TRDJon i actually unplugged it about 3days after I first put it in because the term limp mode freaked me out. Now I just have a $300 gadget stuck in my truck unplugged:(
Hi, I just bought mine. It arrive in couple of days. So far how do you feel about it ? Any positive or negative side to it ?? Just subscribed to you. I have a Toyota 4runner too 😊
@@TRDJon i.e. as you squeeze on the throttle, nothing happens then as squeeze on more the transmission unlocks the torque converter, drops one or two gears giving a nonlinear power surge
@@roadrider1100 I have a Hike-it Throttle controller on mine, and the transmission seems more responsive. Downshifts come quicker and without the drama, no having to press the pedal aggressively to get it to downshift and then having it drop 2 gears when you only need one.
@@TRDJon interesting, this probably helps keep you from those awkward lugging in too high of a gear situations though when you eventually have to force a downshift yeah?
Good video, thanks, Jon. Is the Shift Power USA module detectable like an ECM tune is? Wouldn't think so, as it's not being flashed, but haven't seen anything either way about the throttle enhancer having an effect on the Toyota powertrain warranty (brand new TRD ORP). Thanks!
@@TRDJon Agreed. Looking forward to your long term review. Have the PC but never installed it due to horror stories I've and I hate the bulky module. This new product would be great since it's so easy to install and basically invisible. Great review as always. Let's see that street Tundra footage. Lol... Cheers!
Does this give it a throttle by cable feel? I press on the pedal 40% and the throttle opens 40%? Or I press the pedal and the sensitivity setting determines how quick it goes to 100% open throttle?
do these throttle controllers really provide higher MPG & better 0-60? I've seen multiple videos saying they do and don't. Is there an honest video out there?
hearsay is that the reason the 4runner's acceleration is so tuned down is to protect the reliability and reduce strain on the engine and transmission. It's best to consider what consistent aggressive acceleration can do to an engine/trans
@@Lejokerjosh some of what you said is why I asked. The engine seems tuned this way for a certain reason(s). Dont get me wrong I love pushing the envelope hah
@@jackdangers3292I look at it like this. If you have two pairs of the same shoe, one you walk in and one you run in which pair do you think will wear out faster?
@@TRDJon Well I had it on my Taco when I owned one for about a week before removing it. Really just a pointless mod. IMO just push your gas pedal down further if you want it to react quicker.
The only benefit of this product is emptying the gas tank quicker which the 4Runner doesn’t need. I automatically block channels that rep this bs! Have a nice life
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I am looking to replace my pedal commander because I have encountered the dreaded dead pedal twice now. Do you still use and how has your experience been for a year now? Thanks in advance.
Need to give us a trigger warning about that low-fuel light.
Just came on too. I know 😫
Great job on the video Jon! Thanks for making it. I had a Pedal Commander for a couple weeks, and I returned it simply because I needed the cash at that time for another project. I still say that modifying the throttle response is the single best performance mod you can do for the money. People confuse "performance" with "horsepower" all the time. Sure, this thing doesn't give you more horsepower, and some make the argument that throttle response modifiers don't do anything that mashing the pedal down harder can't do, but by making it more responsive, they reduce the amount of work it is to interact with your car. It removes an obstacle between the driver and the experience. That's performance.
Perfectly said!!
I just installed mine today & man this thing is legit. I installed this in an Acura TLX Type S which I might be the first to have done this on this particular car & man it's been a blast especially in race mode paired with sport plus, & it's made my high flow cats & sport exhaust sound even louder. So if you're on the fence about this don't hesitate go get it, oh and by the way the installation is easy
These do great for 4Runner at fixing the throttle response, BUT you can do SO much better! I started with a Sprint Booster, then got a Yotawerx tune. The tune actually gives you increased power and torque PLUS the pedal response. To boot, fixes the constant hunting of the transmission highway driving. Way better solution.
Nice!! I’ll have to to look into that!
I did valet for a few years and some destroyed cars ...I remember one person took a C63 AMG for a joyride. This is a must of you valet your car.
Bought one of these for my 16 T4R after I saw your video; what a difference! I love it; wish I had it since I bought the truck new. Just so much more fun to drive. Seems like 35% Sport is my sweet spot, and seems like that setting keeps it from downshifting too much. Thanks so much for the video.
The lock mode is really nice when warming up your car on cold winter mornings
Agreed!
I had a pedal commander but after a month it made the 4runner pedal really twitchy and sensitive. Even with diff settings they always seemed to have an issue. I didn’t like it after that. At first I loved it enough to leave a good review as everyone else did. Then removed it as every one else did lol.
Thanks for sharing!
The throttle response curves are completely different on the pedal commander, which are not a linear curve but more like a 90 degree turn, which is what makes them dangerous & if the pedal commander loses power, your pedal loses input & dies also.
Banks Pedal Monster uses the obdi port and deactivates on reverse, & below 10mph in forward & will bypass to OEM pedal if it loses power.
I'm unsure about ShiftPower Throttle Response Controller by ISS Automotive. They don't list any safety features on their website, but definitely, any pedal controller needs to be disabled or dialed back at low speeds.
Those metal brackets are your heat. They get hot so use caution with those wires.
They are?? Ok I’ll move it. Looked like a brace
For the dash
Touch them after it’s run. Looks like you are right on the lower pipe?
Just picked up the pedal commander, so basically same thing.. enjoying the pedal commander alot, totally changes the ride for the better
Yea the PC was good for sure! I like these extra features too
FYI I did the same, but, if you are still in the return window, check out the Banks. I'm about to remove my pedal commander and sell it and install the Banks that just arrived. Do a little research you will see why..I wish I had! no fail-safe on the PC, goes in limp mode if there is an issue and jumpy in reverse. I did / do like the PC but i do not like it in reverse or at low speeds while parking.
@@g.fortin3228 Same thing happened to me, PC gave me a p2121 code and went limp on the highway! Very dengerous. Selling my PC now and went with banks
@@anthon300 I have had no issues (with the PC) so far, but the Banks is designed safer and love the well thought-out low speed and reverse features.. I'll be installing it in the next few days. Banks is a good company I trust. I had not known they made one until recently, or I'd have gone that way from the get-go !
Youl prob get rid of the pc like I did after a while. It likes to act up and sometimes do unexplainable things
So considering each of the 4 settings on the Pedal Commander has 9 ‘levels’ (- 1-4, standard setting, and + 1-4), it’s basically the PC, with a lockout. Which IS a cool feature.
Lockout and the Valet mode too if needed. I like the percentages of this too to fine tune rather than the jump in levels like the PC.
This one also has the option of three different throttle response curves. I previously tried a Sprint Booster and liked the ability to disconnect the remote while it stored the last setting, but it didn’t have a phone app to adjust without the remote. For the Shift Power I haven’t seen any any instructions suggest it can be installed without the wired remote, but I installed mine without connecting the remote, and it works great by just adjusting through the app. I believe that’s another thing the PC doesn’t give the option of. Who likes a bulky remote one display?
OMG im not believing this! Under 200 right now!?!? Must have! Easy install as well.
I want this for my 21 Acura TLX Type S. I returned my Pedal Commander before I even installed it because of problems so many people have had with car being thrown into limp mode
I think The low gas light is better than the lock mode. 😂
Jon, I just got my Trd Pro 4Runner, did your experience with the shift power USA stay great?
Yep! Still have it!
Thanks!
Cool idea, but something about a third party controller that can override your cars throttle is off putting. I feel like so much can go wrong
Hey man great video we just got a 2023 limited 4runner is there any factory warranty issue with installing this product.
Thanks and keep up the good work
My OCD ‘clicked in’! That low gas light was driving my crazy!! 😂
Any updates? Did you keep it installed? Any chance for a new code from beat's?
It is still installed. No new code yet
How is it now after a year
With reported issues with pedal commander and 4Runners, It will be interesting to see if the same issues occur with this.
No issues so far!
This is a really cool gadget, but I don’t really see the necessity of it for a 4Runner. Ie. Race mode?? Super Sport??🤷♂️
Do you have a 4R? The throttle lag is horrible.
I had the Amp'd on my Ram and it was brutal. In sport it was pretty much all or nothing.
Yea that’s what I really like about this. They is still a bit of play in the pedal to make it it obnoxious
@@TRDJon I'm saving to get one for my Tundra. See how it wakes it up.
I dont think those are braces... look like tubes to me. Check and see if they get HOT could be coolant tubes for the heater core.
Ima put them somewhere else. Thanks!
The Sprint Booster V3 is good, but I don't think it has Bluetooth.
Are you still using it?
Jon, a couple of questions. If you have it in sport or race mode, and you put it in reverse does this enhancer revert to original factory settings? 2. If the unit fails (i.e. hardware/software issue) does the units revert to factory settings or will I have to disconnect the unit and restore wiring to pre install? I ask because these are the main selling features (for me) to buy the Banks Pedal Monster. Thanks
Not sure about the failsafe. You'd need to ask them about that one. It hasn't failed on me in the years ive been running it. I don't put it in race mode, but it feels that reverse mimics the setting it is in.
nice calves...LOL i just got a sprint booster and now I'm regretting it.
Lol thanks!! Hahahaha
was this better than the Pedal Commander? Why did you stop using the Pedal Commander? Thank you!
So it just presses the gas down harder for you? Weird
No. It opens the throttle body faster
So. How does this compare to a tune? Is this compatible with the Atrac system?
Lock it, push the gas pedal to the floor, then turn off the lock. See if it leaps!
Loving the lock mode. Two questions.
1. Can you lock it when in drive (say you are getting carjacked).
2. Available for 2022 Tundra?
Yes for 2022 Tundra and yes you can in D as well from what I remember testing. I’ll be having the Tundra video up soon
Discount code doesn’t work
Is this compatible with a 4th gen 4runner?
might be redundant but two questions, have you had any issues with this throwing codes, or going into limp mode? if so how often and what is the fix. 2nd questions, does the model linked in your video work for the 2022 4runner as well? doesn't explicitly say it on the website.
Hows the reverse response. Right through the garage door
nice video, what head unit are you using?....p.s you need gas.
Lol I do!! The Sony 8100 by trail grid. Plug and play system
I have a video on my channel
What exhaust you running? Sounds great !
TRD Exhaust
Can you do a video or share mpg difference from normal to eco mode?
How has the Shiftpower been after a year or so?
Any tips on removing that plug from the throttle pedal? It seems impossible to get haha
How would this work with a Magnuson supercharger?
Nice. Thanks for sharing. Can you also let me know the infotainment systemyou have on your four Runner.?
I have a video on my channel. It’s by TrailGrid. It’s the Sony 8100
Pretty cool stuff
Thanks man’
May be stupid questions…can you change your modes while driving, whereas PC recommends (that I’ve heard) stopping before shifting onto a different mode. Also, when I plugged in my PC, I burned my knuckles on the the silver tubes you have this tie strapped to. Will the straps melt or the cord that touches those? I do like this gadget! What are the possibilities of throwing the 4Runner into limp mode?
I’d recommend stopping with any of these systems
Also choose different mounts then this.
The spot I put it on is a heater core
@@TRDJon i actually unplugged it about 3days after I first put it in because the term limp mode freaked me out. Now I just have a $300 gadget stuck in my truck unplugged:(
Should be able to ship it back right?
Hi, I just bought mine. It arrive in couple of days. So far how do you feel about it ? Any positive or negative side to it ??
Just subscribed to you. I have a Toyota 4runner too 😊
Ayyye 1 have a 2015 Trail Prm 4Runner. I feel ike were fam.
does this affect the transmissions dimwittedness?
Dimwittedness???
@@TRDJon i.e. as you squeeze on the throttle, nothing happens then as squeeze on more the transmission unlocks the torque converter, drops one or two gears giving a nonlinear power surge
@@roadrider1100 I have a Hike-it Throttle controller on mine, and the transmission seems more responsive. Downshifts come quicker and without the drama, no having to press the pedal aggressively to get it to downshift and then having it drop 2 gears when you only need one.
Any limp mode risk like with the Pedal Commander?
I haven't experienced any.
@@TRDJon interesting, this probably helps keep you from those awkward lugging in too high of a gear situations though when you eventually have to force a downshift yeah?
Good video, thanks, Jon. Is the Shift Power USA module detectable like an ECM tune is? Wouldn't think so, as it's not being flashed, but haven't seen anything either way about the throttle enhancer having an effect on the Toyota powertrain warranty (brand new TRD ORP). Thanks!
No it isn’t
@@TRDJon I appreciate the reply. Looking forward to more videos.
Having tried bothe the Pedal Commander and the Beat Sonics, which would you recommend for my 2019 Tacoma Sport?
The ShiftPower
Whats better, this or pedal commander? Thanks
Both do the job but this has more features for sure.
Just purchased for the tundra 😅
Hope you used my code!
@@TRDJon indeed! Always look for you code when buying things you review!
Any issues with the PC? I would get this because the module is so much smaller than the PC.
No issues with PC. Minus being bigger and a little more aggressive .
If I was given the choice in buying new with the knowledge I have, I’d choose this.
@@TRDJon Agreed. Looking forward to your long term review. Have the PC but never installed it due to horror stories I've and I hate the bulky module. This new product would be great since it's so easy to install and basically invisible. Great review as always. Let's see that street Tundra footage. Lol... Cheers!
How does this compare to a pedal commander. Is it worth the upgrade
I think it’s less aggressive but still very useful. The additional modes are nice too
What about 4 wheel drive? Can you use this device
Yes
You put it in lock mode then turn off the car. Does it stay in lock while off and turned back on?
Correct. It stays on the last setting
Does it fit for a 2023!
Yes should.
Does this give it a throttle by cable feel?
I press on the pedal 40% and the throttle opens 40%?
Or I press the pedal and the sensitivity setting determines how quick it goes to 100% open throttle?
The pedal feels stiffer too. No more dead feeling
Does this effect gas efficiency?
Ish. I got a tab bit better with the pedal commander.
So I assume this will be the same.
do these throttle controllers really provide higher MPG & better 0-60? I've seen multiple videos saying they do and don't. Is there an honest video out there?
I wouldn't say they aren't honest, it depends on the driver and the modes used.
"very quick" yet i see you getting passed in the rear view mirror lol
So I installed mine and it wouldnt allow me to select modes, its even connected to my phone app and it still wont allow me to select modes
And you installed after leaving the vehicle door open too?
Yes I opened it for more than 10 mins
OTT Tune for the win
Hey boss 6 month update?
Does it increase mpg in eco mode? If so how much?
Not a whole lot.
Do they make one for Tacoma?
www.beatsonicusa.com/other-accessories/shiftpower.html
SP07 is the one you need based on their site. TRDJON code still works
How is it after 7 month??
Great! Better discount code too now! Discount Code: TRDJON20
Would it Accelerate The same if you just pressed the gas pedal down further
No.
If you floor it fast it won’t make any difference.
We gonna get any off road sequoia videos?
I’ve done several.
Sorry thought you were someone else with the new 2023 trd pro sequoia
What about 4th gen?
They should have one that works.
Tune > any pedal controller
Tune on an NA motor is meh imo and $$$$. Also voids warranty if you are concerned about that.
does this compromise or exacerbate the reliability/durability of the vehicle?
Not to my knowledge
hearsay is that the reason the 4runner's acceleration is so tuned down is to protect the reliability and reduce strain on the engine and transmission. It's best to consider what consistent aggressive acceleration can do to an engine/trans
@@Lejokerjosh some of what you said is why I asked. The engine seems tuned this way for a certain reason(s). Dont get me wrong I love pushing the envelope hah
@@jackdangers3292I look at it like this. If you have two pairs of the same shoe, one you walk in and one you run in which pair do you think will wear out faster?
Should never let your gas level go that low!
Exactly
YotaWerx tune next
What does that do??
Can this void the warranty on my vehicle?
It shouldn’t. It doesn’t write to the ecu
@@TRDJon thanks!
No worries
Imo, dead pedal in the 4runner is the worst of any vehicles I ever drove. Any money spent to compensate for it is well worth it.
It's a 4runner I doubt anyone is looking at this to want to hot rod it
What headlights you had on now Jon? It doesn’t look like alpharex or morimoto..thanks
These are the Carbide GTR lights.
My ex would very passed if I had that lol
Poor valet guys trying to out of someone’s way… Yikes!
Parking lots are 15-20 mph so its fine
Worst mod I ever bought was a "throttle enhancer"
You gonna explain why it just comment with no context? Lol.
@@TRDJon Well I had it on my Taco when I owned one for about a week before removing it. Really just a pointless mod. IMO just push your gas pedal down further if you want it to react quicker.
I believe your 4runner is for pavement.
Duh. Why would you think it flew. It's not a plane.
@@TRDJon haha.. Senseless
#NeedGas
Always heard stories of unintended acceleration with these things. I'd stay away from them and just use the gear selection
Wow, you’re awesome
Lol same day same shirt 1 day review stop lying to the people
The only benefit of this product is emptying the gas tank quicker which the 4Runner doesn’t need. I automatically block channels that rep this bs! Have a nice life
Adios!