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The Disturbing New Face of Mass Incarceration
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2023
- Mass incarceration has a new face: the skyrocketing use of ankle monitors. People are paying private companies hundreds of dollars per month to surveil them, often before they’ve been convicted of a crime.
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"I just so happened to get into the business.. to help people" he forced that last part out so bad. His intentions are written all over his demeanor. If there's something to be manipulated and taken advantage of. That guy is ready and waiting
To be fair, HE'S not the one making people pay him to wear his ankle monitors. That was the government.
This would be 10X cheaper for the government to pay for than housing these people in jail, but they chose to force people to pay for it themselves.
The government created the demand for these devices. Dude doesn't get to chose who pays for them.
the smirk on his face when he said that was LOUD AND CLEAR
complete a ****
It made me cringe …. disgusting
It made me squirm when he said that.
“There’s eventually gonna be a chip in you, we’re working on it”
How casual and certain he was about that was chilling
I thought that GPS tracking chips were already a thing for cats/dogs/horses. It makes a lot of sense because if your pet gets out, you can track them. I don’t think this technology actually exists and I doubt that it’ll be utilized to help people for decades.
Ya that's creepy asf
@@DustyHoneynope it doesn't. The chip I believe tells you the organization that the dog was from so it's a generalized location but not the owners.
@@DustyHoney As far as I know, chips put into pets are not for GPS tracking, they are for telling the data of the animals and need to be scanned up close. A GPS tracking device would need a hefty energy source so it's powerful enough to communicate with satellites.
He said They're not we're.
what bothered me most abt that old guy was that it wasn’t that he was giving up the truth of what it is, it’s that he was bragging about it.
Thank you. That's exactly how it seemed to me also.
Yeah the guy had a smirk on his face and looked smug the whole time.
he knows the system is on his side, he can say these things with confidence
and smirking
It's okay though, he is "in the business to help people"
Running prisons as a business SHOULD NOT BE A THING.
facts
Crime is ran as a business, why can't prison?
@@drflat9223I’ve never thought of it that way , makes sense
Here is nj you are charged a $100 each time you come in & if you’re broke you owe so whenever you do come with money they will take it even if it’s your last
@@drflat9223because crime comes from immorality while societies aim to the opposite.
My son was accused of a crime he didn't commit - robbery of a liquor store as a 16 year old minor. The police had a poor quality surveillance video and the only evidence they had was that my son was wearing a very similar jacket to the person that committed the crime and a witness who thought my son looked like the person who committed the crime. They picked him up outside of school as he was working with his classmates in the parking lot on their strategies for their National Speech and Debate Association state competition (they won the regional event). As a white person with a six figure salary, I hired a lawyer and he destroyed the police and their lame evidence.
The reason why I could annihilate the police was that I I had a nurse that visited my home on the day of the robbery at the time of the robbery to tend to my wife who was recovering from cancer and was on home care IV therapies, because I have great insurance from a high paying job. She happened to have a long conversation with my son, who was working on getting into a good chemistry program as he wants to be a research pharmacologist. My lawyer had her speak to the prosecutor who immediately realized he has less than a case and promptly dropped the issue.
I wasn't satisfied so I pressed charges against the police for profiling. It cost me north of $30,000 in legal fees but it was worth it just to see the police squirm. The police department was required to issued a statement of apology in return for me dropping charges with the condition that the investigation was expunged and sealed. By the way, my son is adopted and 'black' whatever that is supposed to mean. I wonder how that would have turned out if he was not adopted and the child of some poor parent without resources to do what I did. No wait, I don't wonder, nor does anyone with reasonable cognitive function. The legal system is trash that bends to people with resources to be used as a weapon to people without. You know it. I know it. The American people know it. And because we've done nothing about it, we're worse that the people the justice system calls criminals. You can lie to yourself all you want and to all the other deniers, but deep down, you know it's absolutely true.
You absolutely nailed it! 👏👏👏
It’s a comedic running joke that white ppl can commit crimes black ppl would get murdered on the spot for …. Crazy HOW THAT isn’t a wake up call
Meh what you've just stated has always been a fact for a thousand years. Those with money are always gonna be less likely convicted compared to a poor nobody. That's just democratic blind law at its finest. Be greatful you don't live in Dubai or parts of eastern Europe....your son wouldn't of even made it to a court house.
@@matty92k you know how much effort it takes to miss the point ? Whose the LEO in the family 😂😂
Iam amazed how much you can lie. It seems to have no ends
“I’m just a businessman,” no, you are a leech, and that was proven when he said that you are guilty until proven innocent. So gross. When cops are so lazy and incompetent, I don’t think that’s a good idea.
As the wife of a 2x "felon" who spent nearly 4 years in state prison...at least he wasn't lying.
yeah lol and bLACK people aren't leaches upon the earth that provide nothing for themselves and take from every health organism because they are parasitic in nature. they commit crimes they deserve consequences, they are way more lazy and incompetent than the cops they are programmed to hate.
Literally faced this myself last month. Police and courts went hard on me until my trial 5 months after my wrongful arrest/charge. I was found "not guilty" yet lost nearly everything due to the stipulations they placed on me for me to receive bail. There's something seriously wrong here in the west.
Seriously being on house arrest is life ruining. They were trying to charge me for a crime TWO years later. I totally thought the charges were dropped but TWO years later I get a letter letting me know I have a court date. Go to court and instantly get put on house arrest. Why?!?!? I hadn’t been in trouble with the law for TWO YEARS and now I need to be put on house arrest?!?
I had to pay monthly for the ankle bracelet and it didn’t count as time served. I fought it in court and the charges were dropped! I was punished though, financially ruined, and being put on house arrest is like being in jail but it punishes people before they’re even proven guilty! Complete BS!
*Edit* : To add context it was a criminal driving offense. I was picked up and arrested at my house. Not while I was driving. My whole family shares my car it’s just in my name. I was proven innocent, but I was severely punished. It ruined me financially, mentally, emotionally, the list goes on. Why should anyone be punished before being proven innocent or guilty? Especially someone with no criminal record like I had?
lol that's just fucked. Which state was this in?
Learn to make better decisions and choices in life earlier on, then, and don't end up on house arrest in the first place!
@@ems3832THEY WERE INNOCENT. CHARGES DROPPED. GOD FORBID YOU EVER GET FALSELY ACCUSED
Committing crimes is also life ruining for the victims 😢
@@ems3832you’re pretty stupid huh. The OP said they haven’t been in trouble for 2 years and the prior charges were dropped. Yet instead of addressing the actual problem that the vice video and OP state, you white knight and virtue signal about something nobody is arguing against. Nobody said make bad choices, nobody reasonable wakes up and says I’m gonna commit a crime today so I can be put on house arrest.
A week ago, my auto insurance went up again. I called to get my previous monthly price back and the representative suggested a discount if my vehicle have a tracking device with audio monitoring to see if Im on the phone while driving or speeding. Straightforward, companies are taking advantage of our daily lives. The statement that went too far is having a CHIP in your body. That’s the goal, to monitor everyone in society and have us pay for it. Regardless if you’re innocent or guilty, or not in some legal bind, this stuff is happening.
Today you have a choice. Tomorrow it'll be mandatory. No device? No insurance. Its coming
@@m00ndawg This was my greatest fear when Progressive started rolling out those chips for your car that monitor your speed, compare it to speed limits based on GPS, and if you don't speed you get a rate adjustment. I doubt there's any systems in place to prevent those same chips from being used as information they can sell to whoever wants it - or worse.
Yea, I can't believe anyone would accept those chips. I mean, everyone speeds....hell where I live it's basically mandatory as the flow of traffic is usually about 80 and to go 60 (the posted limit) would actually be dangerous....even the cops are doing 80. I wonder what the actual number of people are who have accepted those chips? Hopefully it's low.....because if we don't stand up to that bullshit then it will absolutely become mandatory. We are headed in a very dangerous direction
Hahaha yeah sure..... keep that thin foil talk going.. crapp keeps being funny..
Your phone makes all that available, all they have to do is monitor your phone for another thing, then another thing until it's everything. As far as incarceration this is a great alternative.
The issue seems to be that we keep people in jail for unreasonably long times, pre-trial. Letting people stay out of jail (even with ankle monitors) is a step in the right direction. Question is, why do taxpayers pay for people to sit in jail awaiting trial but not for them to be monitored, especially if it is apparently 1/10th of the cost?
Plus bail/bond! I had a legal issue once, had to pay 10k for a good lawyer after posting 10k bail, not guilty verdict but home went into foreclosure and my savings were gone. I'm thankful to have had the resources at the time to pay for it all and understand if I didn't would have been stuck in jail pre/pending trial and a free public defender or cheap lawyer may not have saved me. All said and done it took me 2 years of working 3 jobs, 70 hours a week, reaching out to churches and food pantries for help. Saved my home from foreclosure but still have not fully recovered financially. The entire bail/bond system is a cash cow and unfortunately you are GUILTY UNTIL PROVEN INNOCENT and NOT innocent until proven guilty as they claim.
Ankle moniter isnt a punishment it is a privledge. You can be in a cell 23 hours a day. Or you can go to work and be productive.
Agreed. It also motivates the accused to be employed instead of sitting in idle time ... doing nothing all day can get some people in more trouble.
The only reason I can think of is the recidivism rate is prob higher and convictions went up . Ppl will deff take 5 yrs in jail or 2 yrs house arrest . Keeps ppl on the street contributing AND you stimulate the economy by having these companies facilitate the house arrest
I think yall missed the part where they can’t go to work because they have to be home. 🥴
This megalomaniac is disgusting. "We have peoples lives in our hands." That sentence is haunting and he better pray he is not on the receiving end of that statement in criminal or medical situation and he will probably expect sympathy he doesn't have.
Yeah, "helping" people isn't his goal AT ALL.
Your forgetting 99% are guilty kf their crimes... Burglaries murderers drug dealers...
These are criminals. It's only "haunting" to criminals and losers.
@@NP-zs5ui Remember you can always slip up. You better be careful.
@@zombieboy937 Literally, all of the people who swear up and down to be such stand up citizens. Empathy is a thing of the past clearly.
Having been incarcerated for almost 13 years, this beats physical incarceration any day of the week!!
but these people haven’t been convicted yet
Were you incarcerated before you were convicted?
@@BillyRamirez everyone is😂
@@FortheLoveofMonsters You've got to remember that this is an alternative to sitting in jail waiting for trial. They have the option to post bond either way, and if they can't, its jail or house arrest.
The issue is with a broken system and a for profit jail/prison industry. These ankle monitors actually give people better options than jail time
@@javierandrade144 Umm no they aren't. Most either are released on their on recognizance until trial for minor crimes or released on bail until their trial date. Only those accused of the most violent crimes are held in jail before conviction, or those too poor to pay bail (which is a whole separate problem where the judicial system rewards the wealth and penalizes the poor).
If I'm in that situation, put a monitor on my ankle and send me home. I'll be damned if I'd rather sit in county and deal with my case. I sat for 7 months just to be found not guilty and had to restart with nothing. These folks have it better than they realize. Lock me in the house, I'll make an OnlyFans and shake my narrow ass for a dollar here n there before I sit in the county again...😂😂😂
You’re wild for that lmao
That's a good point, but what the story is here is that she wasn't convicted. Unless she had a rap sheet, we don't know. And her charges were serious.
@@notaperson9831😂😂😂
@@eddenoy321Right, no one is convicted during pre-trial which is why they put you in county jail, house arrest, or hit you with a bond and release you. I get that. I sat in jail 7 months and I wasn't convicted either. I'd choose house arrest anyday.
@eddenoy321 I spent 3 months in county 2 of Wich were in solitary because they didn't wanna place me due to old gang connections so I was held on administrative hold. I was found not guilty after 3 months in and a year on house arrest and I feel ya when it's hard being innocent because this time I was other times no I'll admit but to be in those shoes livin a honest life and have it ripped from you is something Idk if I'll ever fully understand. Definitely a flaw in the system
So they haven't been convicted yet of any crime AND can't work AND have to pay for this device? Make it make sense.
It was creepy how the executive director at that ankle monitoring company was smiling so casually when he mentioned putting chips in people.
These devices aren't causing any corrective changes to behavior. There is no rehabilitation, but wait wait wait there has been no conviction.
I have been on house arrest and know dozens of other people that have been on it. I have never heard of someone not being allowed to work while on house arrest. I don't buy it for a second.
They don't have to accept house arrest. The offender doesn't pay until they are convicted.
@@terryt2728 yeah something seemed strange when she mentioned she couldn't work; that doesn't make sense. I hate how this investigation failed to lay out all of the specific details. Doesn't make sense that they expect people to pay but intentionally keep them from working to earn enough money to pay.
@@johng6950 When I was on house arrest going to look for a job was one of the only reasons I was allowed to leave the house.
how about just don't commit the crime. that makes sense!
@@jasonhabbo9700these people haven’t even been convicted of a crime
Mass incarceration is a booming business in the US unfortunately. Crime pays like they say.
A Sh*t hole country,as we, the people from actually happy and rich countries say..
Mass racism is what I call it smh
@@Etaoinshrdlu69trust me bro. There aren't lot of people convicted today that don't belong their. What else to do really, seemed to be crime ridden areas where kids grow up idolising criminals.
If people committed less crimes these companies wouldn't exist
Yup! All the prisons are privately owned, correct?
This has been going on in New Mexico for over 15 years. EVERYONE who was bonding out of jail no matter what the charges you're put on pretrial probation... you haven't even been found guilty of anything yet. Normal probation is less restrictive its absolute nuts.
It’s fucking nuts, this justice system is horrific
@@CA-dr7tf it sure is. In New Mexico your probation is more intense BEFORE you plea guilty... thevrestrictions ease up after you plea guilty its like they pressure you into pleaing guilty
There is a company that has a device that looks like a smart watch, less intrusive, less stigma, same cost to monitor. The ankle monitor is basically the Scarlett letter of the modern day
Why'd that politician ankle monitor salesman smirk like that when he said we would have a chip? Creepy vibes
The oversight of these private monitoring companies seems to be the main issue.
Keeping non-violent offenders out of jail and still working and connected to their communities benefits everybody, so the technology makes sense. Just needs a clearer and fairer model- perhaps these companies could charge the state directly, and the offenders pay a scaled portion of the cost back to the state depending on their assets/earnings.
when you plead guilty to burglary, property destruction and violent threats... I don't have a whole lot of sympathy for their plight. Vice should find someone who is falsely accused if they want people to care.
Exactly. Why should we hear these idiots like this cry? I have a neighbor here on a bracelet. And yea, he is guilty. Cries about being on it. Why do the crime i asked. Couldnt say a thing. Why cry about it? If the person is falsely accused. I understand. Then report it. Not someone who is. Its deserved.
@@BR0GR3 Because the US justice system is messed up beyond believe.
1/3 return rate after 5 years out.
you house nearly 5 percent of the global population in your country but at the same time your prisons hold 24 percent!!!
Do americans just do more crime?
I doubt it.
So why tf is your country like that???
@@BR0GR3 E X A C T L Y!!!!!!!!!!!!
I 100 percent agree with what your saying in addition to that I’m glad they pay for the services why should we as tax payers be responsible for criminals.
That old man was the definition of “don’t hate the player hate the game”
The main reason for this is severe overcrowding in prisons.
...and that's because mass incarceration is BIG business... very big business!
@@Jimmy1982Playlists*HYUUUGE BUSINESS!*
@@apeshitclothing 🎯🎯🎯💯🙏 Absolutely... and it's not making us safer - it's making us FAR less safe! This is a nation with no criminal rehabilitation, with a huge and increasing wealth gap, which breeds criminality due to poverty and a lack of mental health resources.
Recipe for catastrophe.
Which is a problem. I went to jail during Covid and was put on house arrest for 3 months. I guess it depends on the company but I could do all essentials. Food, Doctor visits, school, probation check in, church if I so choose
@@Michol2114 I think that would be more dependant on the judge/sentence than the private company. But yeah, as long as you can do the stuff you need to do, this seems WAY better than jail, apart from having to pay for it yourself. That's fucked up.
For the people who can read or hear, all of these folks haven’t been convicted yet!
So what? They're not incarcerated. This is unironically a good thing for most petty crimes. If you don't like it, leave your sh!t hole country.
Regardless of conviction you’d still be detained until you post bail. They’re being detained. I see no problem with this.
Most of us get that and for a 1st time non violent petty offense there is no need for it. Was she a repeater ? I don't know, her charges were on the serious side. Another half-baked Vice video.
@@eddenoy321I love how people like you somehow become experts on bail in a country whose bail standards are arbitrarily set by a random judge everyday in tens of thousands of counties who all have different set standards of bail. lol
Plenty people who have no priors have higher bonds for drugs then alleged rapist or pedophiles
Seems like a genuinely good alternative to sending people to sit in jail for a minor offense. There are clearly some problems within the system that need to be worked out like limiting the price these companies can charge, and allowing the court cases to play out before charging them anything for the monitor. Like 3G said he’d rather pay to be out of jail and making money for his family then sitting in a jail cell doing nothing for the entirety of his sentence.
We all know the old saying- “Don’t want to do the time? Don’t do the crime.”
@@kovy689 Old sayings aren't arguments. In the United States we have a massive problem with overpopulated prisons that are costing the tax payers mass amounts of money. This is a solution for minor non violent criminals to not be a burden on the state but still be held to a standard and pay restitution to the rest of society. Since you love old sayings I'm sure you've heard the saying "gladiator academy" in reference to our prison system. I bring this up because our prisons systems shoot out hardened criminals more likely to do crime when they are released. Through this new system we wouldn't be exposing small crime offenders to the hardened criminals sharing a prison with them.
@@David-im3sb Ok, so your message is to commit crimes.
Got it, thanks.
@@kovy689 you're definitely 40 iq. Don't even comment if you can't keep up chief. You're clearly out of your depth when it comes to these sorts of conversations.
you're missing the part where people are being punished for something theyre not convicted of, the opposite of being incarcerated at home for not doing anything is not jail
It’s better than sitting in jail not being able to see or raise your baby. There should be funds that people who are found not guilty get back. Or living costs should be included in the program. Or people found not guilty should get a certain amount of $ back from the $400/ month. You got to be able to live for f*cks sake. How are these people supposed to buy food, pay bills etc.
Don’t commit Crimes and you won’t be in this situation! She brought all this on herself! She’s lucky she gets to sit Home!!
@@joeybobbie1cs no one has ever been charged with a crime they didn’t commit, right?
@@notaperson9831haha I’m sure she’s innocent
@@ripbeats8391I know why you made that statement. I hope you never serve on a jury of a trial in which the defendant is Black because your implicit bias will already see that person guiltu of the crime regardless of the evidence presented in the trial.
@@latyshal.2286 Grow up. You are racist yourself to base everything Apon your race. Karen!!!!!!!!!!
What about her right to a fair and speedy trial? The injustice system continues.
She has it. She could press the prosecutor and they would wrap it up quick. But 90 percent of the time your defense wants you to drag the case on to show that you won’t get another case in that time on monitor so that you show you aren’t a danger to your community. And it works. Usually the drop the charge if you do good and don’t do more crime while on the monitor.
Then be sure to keep yourself out of it if it's so "unjust."
@@ems3832 Oooh, pithy! How's the boot polish taste?
@@qmaineotcg This is the part most people don't understand. You can press your right to a speedy trial at any time but it's usually to the defendant's benefit not to, whether because they simply want to be out on bond longer or because their lawyer has to file motions etc. which delay the process. Going to trial ASAP often means going unprepared.
I think it's better than being in jail, but it's basically probation before conviction and sentencing which is terrible since it paves the way for violations before you've even been put on probation or parole.
everything is slowly becoming guilty until proven innocent
...unless you're rich. Then you can have lawyers to negotiate everything down to nothing; a piddling bargain sentence, an easy, years-long, free-as-a-bird pretrial, even whether or not you'll allow yourself to be arrested. The criminal legal system is just another game to them that they can just buy better tools to make winning easy.
I have the fix for mass incarceration! Don't do crime! And if wearing an ankle tag is so bad, one can consider themselves lucky they can do that rather then get locked up.
EXACTLY!!! Too many idiots on this thread who don't seem to get that, Chris!
Exactly!
That man is just a monster who sees his opportunity to make millions and gives zero care about the suffering he will cause
This is the kind of thing I like from vice, gritty serious things that affect people lives that aren't being spoken about.
FINALLY SOMEONE SAID IT OUT LOUD! In America, you are GUILTY until PROVEN INNOCENT
Wow I understand wanting to pay to stay home with your family I think this is perfect for non violent offenders, but the prices are crazy for poor people. My hope is that there is more regulations over this and a standardized price.
For whatever she is accused of a crime. She did something to get accused of those crimes. And just so you know most people will wait in jail till there trail. Staying at home on a ankle monitor is a privilege……
Privatization , man.
the prices are fine. Don't want an ankle monitor and have to pay? It's pretty simple! Don't be a criminal.
@@DerplingusThe-II It's true, only guilty people have ever been tried, that's why we don't have a judicial system or defense lawyers.
They did mention that those who can't afford it, the state picks up the bill, maybe they need a readjustment of the threshold.
Or do what they do in some other countries, and have fines/fees scaled to your income.
But at the end of the day, this is a privilege to be able to spend that time at home vs being locked up. They get the option of bond either way, unless a flight risk, in which case they likely wouldn't be offered house arrest anyways.
Better to be at home with the possible support of whānau/family than being locked up in gaol on remand, I must agree. But the state/s should be running this, and paying for it, and def not a private company profiting off of it. What really creeps me out is when they are bracleted *and* they also have to have cameras installed *in* their homes. This is Orwellian.
And everything they do scrutinised.
Giving birth in the house because your under house arrest is CRAZY.
there's a very easy way to avoid the ankle bracelet. i rocked one for about 6 months after i got out of prison for selling weed. stop treating criminals like they're victims. the only things they are victims of are their own stupid behavior
THANK YOU. This whole video and the comments themselves are mind blowing. Yes, false arrests and accusations are a thing, but are FAR from the majority. I'm sorry but I just don't feel bad for this lady in the beginning of the video. You did a crime, you gotta pay. Stop acting like the victim in this scenario.
Well said, jimbo!
And yet they let murderers and rapists out. All day long. I feel bad for this lady I don't even know what's going on, but her situation is just horrible
Wow I have witnessed alot through life and alot of learning what evil looks like. The Man at the 5 min mark REALLY gives me a horrible bad feeling. Like pure evil..
Because that's who he is
How is this pure evil? I guess it depends on what their clients did to the community. If they're non-violent drug offenders, yeah I'd say it's pure evil. If they were involved in involuntary manslaughter, I think he's being way too kind.
@@everythingisfine9988 im surprised your able to read comments with your two brain cells
@@everythingisfine9988that chip line with that little smirk…very unsettling
its really disheartening to see all the people in the comments talking about how the price should be adjusted when there shouldn't be a price in the first place. It shouldn't be privatized either.
Definitely shouldn't be privatized, the criminal justice system is supposed to be there to keep society safe, not to enrich private companies. There should never be an incentive to deprive someone of their freedom. Depriving someone of their freedom should be reserved for when that person has done something wrong that hurts society and has gone through due process.
We need to see MORE of this! Good ol' fashioned journalism at it's finest!
This is slight of hand journalism and you fell for it
@@BLOCKBOI3RD No, you're mistaken. These are reporters going to a direct source! (Tim Schlauch, CEO of Alert INC, one of the most commonly used ankle-bracelet companies in the world.)
I highly doubt you even watched this video in its entirety, because if you did, you would have heard some of the most profound words ever uttered out of a CEO's mouth.
This guy, Mr. Schlauch wants to start RFID chipping inmates, which is an EXTREME violation of human privacy, and a HUGE breach of morale ethics!
Yet you could care less about that! You're the literal definition of a sheep blinding following its herd! As I'd also bet money that you watch nothing but dis-informative news articles, from outlets like FOX news!
Please educate yourself on topics you're arguing, before making a fool of yourself!
Because only the journalists you watch use "slight of hand journalism"!
Not Vice News!
isn't the other option to go into a jail until trial?
Yes. But everyone is scared if jail.. good old America, guilty until proven innocent
Yes, and that's much more expensive.
@@andrewq159 pull the troops out of 1 of the 100 countries that the US has troops in and y'all can afford it
WeLl It'lL tAke TaXpAyEeers mOneeY
If you can bond/bail out then you don’t have to sit in jail…
So she burnt somebody’s house down and now she’s complaining that she’s in her own homestretch should be in prison
She's very lucky to not be locked up.
There was no house burned down, and she hasn’t been found guilty of these crimes-pay attention.
She hasn't been convicted.
otherwise, she'd be sitting in jail waiting for trial.
@@OmegaSeraphimwhy, though?
This ankle monitoring system seems like heaven compared to sitting in jail (pre-trial or otherwise), and for that reason there's easy buy-in. And that's really messed up. There's less incentive for the justice system to operate more efficiently and effectively if the cost is no longer on taxpayers. Furthermore, there's something to be said to having taxpayers foot the bill, since incarceration should not be an 'Individual' problem. Communities should have a stake in the rehabilitation and well-being of their members who are imprisoned.
what im hearing is, inmates pay for their incarceration, which will further incentive law enforcement to incarcerate, possibly leading to a further rash of mass incarceration, especially now that police won't have to think about putting any type of burden on the state. Also I don't see putting microchips in people to track them going over very well.
Don't commit crimes.. Won't have to pay..... Better then $100+ a day in jail we as taxpayers cover
@@squibbelsmcjohnson thats the problem, its feasible that even without committing crimes you can be caught up in this, especially if means job security for law enforcement. Considering arrest stats are financially incentivized (and have been for some time) you really think everyone that gets arrested has broken the law?
i REALLY like that the business guy is honest about what he does. so many people try to hide that they are a scumbag but he just owns it and i find that refreshing.
Helps you know who to avoid and who to watch. This is definitely the type of guy you want to keep an eye on.
Acting like criminals are the biggest victims in our society is absurd. Clearly they should be treated fairly, but there are countless details left out of this video that should be here. Like, what is the degree of crime that constitutes house arrest? What percentage of the time are they guilty? Seems like the house arrest is an effective solution to the high incarceration rate. While the obvious answer is, don’t commit crimes.
I completely agree. True the flaw in the system is that its costly for the criminal if they turn out to be not guilty but at the same time usually you're involved in shady business if you end up being arrested and held in county till trial. Don't commit crimes and don't hang around people who do.
Huge amounts of people who even plead guilty are often times not guilty. But when left with the possibility of jail so many plea.
It's very democrat America though
@@DebianOchoa-mf4iv Link me some statistics. I teach middle schoolers, and the cohort that get ISS, OSS, and detention are almost always guilty of something, it’s rare they are completely innocent. Justice is a messy game to play and we should strive for fairness, but standing on the side of criminals is absurd and propping up one sided arguments for them is straw manning.
When did 'innocent until proven guilty' go out the window in Western jurisprudence..?
People are saying in the comments that this is better than jail.
What is also better is to have a good and fast justice system that is not corrupted by companies interests. They are being punished while waiting for trial.
This is a shame.
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What about stop committing crimes, and stay out the system?
@@enriquemunoz704 if you commit a crime, you go to trial and you are found guilty or not guilty. Then, if you are guilty, you serve your sentence.
It's not right to be punished before going to trial.
How about not locking someone in their own home before they’ve even been convicted?
Or don't be a violent pos. Problem solved.
That evil dude had the nerve to say to help people!
Business guy was the only honest dude the whole video 😂😂
And 3G
For real it’s scary though
1:30 "Highly unregulated, PRIVATELY RUN system.." in other words profiteers. Therefore the system needs you to be guilty, and will make that happen (even if your innocent) because they're literally making millions off accused people, not convicted criminals.
That guy in the blue suit is talking out of both sides of his mouth.
Also, I am sure that he is able to be gung-ho about chips being installed in one’s body because he doesn’t ever think that will be his fate.
Yeah, he creeped me out big time. I also have to wonder who's red stilletos are on the desk behind him.
I’d rather do time at home than in an overcrowded county jail. Just my opinion
Are we really advocating for GUILTY criminals now? In reality the first woman acted like a plumb fool and doesn’t like the inconvenience of punishment. 🙄 Home detention should be regulated and paid for by those on house arrest.
She had not been adjudicated at all. You are supposed to innocent until proven guilty.
I have one on right now. Its ridiculously expensive. If you can't pay the hundreds of dollars upfront for the ankle bracelet, plus monthly fees it counts as violating. Then you get arrested with an extra charge
Lol my homie was straight trapping on house arrest. Honestly it’s a better solution than jail for most. Being on house arrest without conviction is crazy though.
Bar some companies clearly charging excessive fees due to the lack of oversight I don't see much issue. It is definitely a much better alternative in many cases then jailing people.
DID HE JUST SAY WAIT TIL THEY HAVE CHIPS?!? 😳😳😳😤😤😤
My cousin has went from house arrest, to incarcerated in jail to being on house arrest awaiting a trial that keeps getting extended. It has been almost two years. Time wasted that after he is found innocent will have wasted 2 years of his life
This man understands that this is a better deal all around. He can work and be with his family. Its probably saving his life and keeping him present with his children!
This man understands!
How do you incarcerate someone that hasn’t been convicted of a crime 🤔
They’re not incarcerated, that’s were you’re wrong
It’s easy when they are caught in the Act!!!!!
By fearing death. If you stop fearing death you can sacrifice your life instead of being a pawn in the system.
@@langerd6711 How else do you define it aside from restricting movement? The cell looks different and has different things inside, but it's imprisonment nonetheless.
@@DNRTannen detainment. One way to avoid this is to not commit crimes 😃
This isn’t “mass incarceration,” it’s a condition of bail. If the courts are using it, haphazardly, then that would be wrong.
agreed
Whats the definition of incarnation? And answer quickly. This is def the NEW FACE of mass incarnation. These ppl haven't even been to trial yet and they're being punished. The entire video I giving examples of haphazard use. How are you defending this?
Locking up brothas and sistas in chains is racism straight up it dont matter if it be in there own house
Sitting at your home with a newborn is better then sitting in jail with out your baby.
3G seems like a good dude caught up in a bad situation. I hope he finds a good path in life
Thanks bro 💪🏽 @bsusak09
I would love to see Donald wearing an ankle bracelet and being monitored while he awaits his trialS and him having to pay for it.
I had ankle monitors on both ankles for awhile. It was next level😂
Lowlife
Alot of officials and politicians need to be on this too..... they commit crimes daily in America and grave injustices.
I had an alcohol monitor on for having no metabolized alcohol (when they sent it to the labs in came back as that) it cost me $600 for a month and a half. I didn’t drink and it was proved, but because it happened 3 times, I had to pay for it. I feel they did that on purpose honestly, courts are so corrupt.
Please cover the riots in France; one of the biggest current news stories in the world.
Doesn’t support their agenda 🤷🏽♂️
@@518trey1 stfu. they rioters are fighting the good fight and hopefully they win
So big that most people never heard of it
i never heard if this and im in canada
@@lxced_ You don't watch or read world news?
States spent an average of $45,771 per prisoner in 2020, the cost of tuition at Harvard per academic year.
You know something funny? When i stopped breaking the law and cleaned my life up i stopped having to worry about being incarcerated.
There's a huge difference between being convicted of a crime Vs being detained awaiting a trial. No one is being convicted ahead of a trial.
Yeah but normally you are put in jail until the trial..so...
Right but you are put into jail 😂😂
Pick your poison. Don't commit crimes and given the choice of being in the free world or losing everything being locked up
I think it's the limited freedoms they are given before being proven guilty, I get some people may need to be detained as a flight risk etc but it seems this is being looked at as a way to cut a few corners 🤔
@gracevicki3983 that's besides the point. Even those who commit crimes still have civil rights. If you support the eroding of those because you like to lick boots, then don't cry if you find yourself at the mercy of the system. What's legal today could be illegal tomorrow. And most Americans don't know the law.
Wtf would complain about spending time at home instead of being in the county...while awaiting trial....she should be happy
Exactly! She committed several crimes and staying home with her baby. What more can she ask?
if she was guilty for a crime then this would be fine, but imagine if someon just accused of doing crime (even though they are not, then this practice would ruin their life..they cannot go outside their home, cannot make living etc), can you even sue the court for mistaken identity though? maybe you can, but at what cost? you already out of jobs for several month maybe, and court would cost you more..this is the main issue with this system imho.
This is scary and disturbing, especially the chip insertion.
So let me get this straight they were complaining people were sitting in jail and couldn’t afford bail now they are complaining that they are on Electronic monitoring? But aren’t these the same people that suggested that this should be the alternative? I mean what do y’all want people running around without any type of monitoring at all after being accused of crimes. But then when you let them out and they commit other crimes we’ll be asking why they out of jail in the first place.
I thought that I was the only one noticing an increase in the folks I see wearing those monitors.
Don't do the crime; if you can't do the time!
Hate to be them!
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Other than the fluctuating prices, it really seems like a good idea. As long as they allow them to have a job and doesn’t cost more than $100-$300 (depending on the state) a month then I don’t see a problem with the system.
Thats unrealistic to say it would be that low for the majority of people who have committed felonies and cannot find work. Especially during all this inflation. The government profits more from them not being able to make payments and giving them a warrant, and slapping them in jail.
"do you think this is sort of like a case of a hidden kind of mass incarceration where people aren't necessarily within prisons but they are being monitored, they have to pay for it themselves, and there's an entire industry of private companies making a ton of cash on?"
what an open and non-directional question. great interviewing vice.
Don't do crime
@@d0naldthump the US houses nearly a quarter of all people imprisoned world wide...
I doubt the US is so much more full of crime than other nations.
But hey, with all your kids-for-cash and private prison scandals theres no wonder you don't want it to change. You profit from it.
Don’t feel bad for her 🤷🏽♀️ If you weren’t out committing crimes you wouldn’t be tracked or being accused of a crime!! I’m sick of y’all and these damn excuses. How about taking accountability for making shitty life decisions because you thought you were “too good” to work at McDonald’s cause if you really wanted to work you wouldn’t be in this situation in the first place! 💯😡🤬
Great subject. But showcasing someone who pleaded guilty to burglary and destruction of property doesn't make it sound as unjust as you're trying to portray it.
This is wild. Prohibiting fees before trial should be the norm.
or a reimbursement if found innocent
And the fee structure should be scaled to income
But this won't happen, the whole legal system, including jail/prison in the states is all for profit, same as their health care, which is why both systems are broken
This is a fantastic idea for some, and should be extended to those convicted and soon to be released. Setting people up with a job and getting them on their feet, before they're released should seriously help the recidivism rate.
Stop treating them like animals while in jail does a better job reducing recidivism.
You have clearly never been to Baltimore. These kids will simply kill each other with their ankle monitors on
@@herschel7643still isn't a bad idea for some
@@cliveklg7739 You're probably right. I say we do both!
@jaumartinez9006 I'm not sure if you understood my comment. My point was that by ensuring that they have a job and can pay for the monitoring, that they will already be stable and employed when they are released. Win-Win!
That's not helping anyone. That's taking away people's freedom. What happened to innocent until proven guilty? 🤔
y’all should listen to a court proceeding and understand why SOME people get Electronic Monitoring.
feel like capping it at like 200-250 a month would be reasonable and for non violent criminals this is the way we should be doing things not locking them up leaving them no way to keep making money or supporting their families
This is not incarceration. Does Vice even try on these stories? The other option is sitting in jail. It also costs more. This is not unconstitutional, nor is it unreasonable.
That's why they are bankrupt.
When he said I just happen to be in the business "to help people" and looks away knowing damn well he's a liar. I mean yea it's better than jail but you shouldn't be in jail or on house arrest until proven guilty
Slavery never ended, it evolved...
Better than being in jail and away from your kids.
This is the choice you made. Better than jail!
Is it? Is it either?
what if they are wrongfully accused? That's why we have a trial..
You can apply for absences, you could exercise, get a routine together to keep you busy. It’s better than actually being in prison.
Benefits listed:
Paying taxes (what)
Staying with your family (constantly monitored with no privacy to speak of)
Not “wasting tax dollars” (prisons still exist and I assure you they are sucking down taxpayer dollars still)
So no one find that it disturbing that that Director has the actual app/information on his freaking cellphone??? That's creepy. Why can't that be on a laptop or a pc where people only acces them when needed. So he just sip cofee everyday while stalking these people???
Probably fantasizing about microchipping people as he strokes the red stiletto's on the shelf behind him. He creeped the F out of me.
So is Vice opposed to monitoring those on bail on all instances?
If a stalker, violates his bail conditions and is seen outside the victims house should that stalker go to jail?
The vice position is abolition of policing like they said time and time again three years ago
Disturbing? Better than them being in a jail. We supposed to have pity for these criminals? You commit crimes with intent, you deserve punishment
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this is baiting, the only person he interviewed that spent time in jail said he would prefere EM than jail .
Lol Krishna was trying that guy to crack into victimhood. Big props to the construction guy. He was real
this is dumb. I rather be on electric monitoring rather than in jail while waiting for trial
It shouldt b neither smh
The guy is being interview needs to be ashamed of himself, I cannot person pay taxes. If you can’t go to work, because the first moment you step out 5 feet from the things range, you’re going to get locked up, stop with the cap, stop with the BS!
Population of LA 3,840,000
Population on pretrial ankle monitor
I thought u guys went bankrupt
Worse. They fell off