The Battle of Isandlwana | Zulus Vs British | Total War Cinematic Battle

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  • Опубликовано: 11 июн 2024
  • The battle was a decisive victory for the Zulus and caused the defeat of the first British invasion of Zululand.The British Army had suffered its worst defeat against an indigenous foe equipped with vastly inferior military technology. Isandlwana resulted in the British taking a much more aggressive approach in the Anglo-Zulu War, leading to a heavily reinforced second invasion, and the destruction of King Cetshwayo's hopes of a negotiated peace.
    00:00 The British invasion
    01:20 The Zulu army
    02:24 The Zulu move to stop the British
    03:12 The British camp at Isandlwana
    04:04 British scouting actions
    04:33 Chelm sford splits his force
    05:16 More Zulu warriors are sighted
    05:44 Durnford arrives
    06:21 Durnford engages with the Zulus
    06:52 Scouts discover the main Zulu force
    07:27 The British get ready for battle
    07:52 The Battle begins
    09:05 Durnfords men retreat
    09:26 The Zulus begin to break through
    10:23 Durnfords last stand
    10:50 The British last stand
    11:24 Casualties
    11:42 Aftermath

Комментарии • 327

  • @gumpster8913
    @gumpster8913 Месяц назад +110

    I was skeptical about using the game for documentary graphics, but this is much, much better than a handful of reenactors!

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  Месяц назад +5

      Thanks I’m glad you liked it😁

    • @CBGSR
      @CBGSR Месяц назад +1

      Same! I've not seen an army toe battle done this way before, but the air and sea battles I've seen rarely come out looking good. I really enjoyed this.

    • @Alfie-ft3bx
      @Alfie-ft3bx Месяц назад +3

      @@CBGSR do you not remember time commanders where they got people to fight in a battle using this as a game?

    • @malcolmmitchell6529
      @malcolmmitchell6529 Месяц назад +3

      Technology being used for educational purposes, sensibly narrated by a human being? Some mistake surely.

    • @malcolmmitchell6529
      @malcolmmitchell6529 Месяц назад +1

      Shome mishtake shurely.(yootyoob keep altering it.

  • @stvdagger8074
    @stvdagger8074 Месяц назад +89

    In case you are wondering about the "the Zulu... ...put an end to a great dynasty" part of the ending quote by Prime Minister Disraeli, he is referring to the death of Louis-Napoléon, Prince Imperial, the only child of Emperor Napoleon III of France. Who was killed by a Zulu warrior on June 1, 1879.

    • @andreainzaghi7373
      @andreainzaghi7373 Месяц назад +6

      thank you very much

    • @makisp.1428
      @makisp.1428 Месяц назад +1

      Thank you!
      But I have to ask. Why is a Frenchman fighting the Zulus?
      Nevermind... I looked it up.

    • @stvdagger8074
      @stvdagger8074 Месяц назад +14

      @@makisp.1428 In 1870, Emperor Napoleon III declared war on Prussia. He lead the main French Army into defeat and was captured. The French people deposed him and he went into exile in England. His son went to Sandhurst, a British military academy. In 1877, most of his classmates graduated and some were sent to fight the Zulu. The Prince volunteered to go to. He got an Assegai in hi
      s guts.

    • @FuckGoogle2
      @FuckGoogle2 Месяц назад +3

      @@stvdagger8074 Everyone did, the zulu disemboweled every enemy as they believed opening up the stomach let out the spirit so it could not linger and cause harm, playing dead wouldn't have worked.

    • @CBGSR
      @CBGSR Месяц назад +4

      I never would have guessed anything close to that. Thanks for sharing.

  • @manuelacosta9463
    @manuelacosta9463 2 месяца назад +70

    Referring to the total eclipse that afternoon, the Zulus interpreted it as a sign that victory was at hand. In the lore that followed it is known as 'the day of the dead moon'. Pretty apt and eerie.

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  2 месяца назад +9

      Yes I thought that too, what are the odds that there is an eclipse during a major battle? thanks for watching again bro

    • @jason200912
      @jason200912 Месяц назад +1

      They could interpret anything as a sign of victory even if a thunderbolt struck their king

    • @DaveSCameron
      @DaveSCameron Месяц назад +2

      Sounds similar to Emperor Constantine and his vision of The Cross.

  • @kapitankapital6580
    @kapitankapital6580 Месяц назад +45

    Something fitting about one of the most notorious defeats of the British Empire, the empire on which the sun never sets, happening during an eclipse.

    • @penderyn8794
      @penderyn8794 Месяц назад +2

      Before the 1700s the word British was used in a derogatory sense for the British Celts.... Welsh and Cornish speakers.
      There political reasons the term British was hijacked by the English establishment to try to make the Scottish feel more part of English domination.... Even though it was supposed to be an equal Union

    • @kapitankapital6580
      @kapitankapital6580 Месяц назад

      @@penderyn8794 do you have a source for that? All the old works I can find only use "British" to refer to a combined Anglo-Scottish polity, for example Geoffrey of Monmouth writing about mythical "kings of Britain" or 17th Century Irish pamphlets referring to "British Protestants". I can't find it used derogatorily to refer to Celts. This would be quite surprising given the fact that "Welsh" is already a fairly derogatory exonym for those peoples (coming from the Anglo-Saxon for foreigners).

    • @neiltaylor513
      @neiltaylor513 Месяц назад +1

      @@kapitankapital6580 he sounds like someone with a chip on his shoulde

    • @mpb6491
      @mpb6491 Месяц назад +2

      ​@@neiltaylor513if he is British. We all do, it's a unequivocal part of being British. To have a chip on ones shoulder 😂

  • @zim_christ_lion
    @zim_christ_lion 3 дня назад +1

    As a Zimbabwean of British stock, one of my ancestors was a redcoat soldier who was sent to retrieve the Queen's colours from the battlefield. I believe that same flag was later presented to Queen Victoria. I salute both armies. Good, brave men on both sides.

  • @iangrimwood3345
    @iangrimwood3345 2 месяца назад +52

    An American general split his forces three years before and look what happened to him.

    • @4catsnow
      @4catsnow Месяц назад +6

      Britain had bad luck in these little flare ups...lot of the places they tried to colonize.. the locals really got an attitude...

    • @ElChimpy
      @ElChimpy Месяц назад

      I was thinking the same thing.

    • @andreainzaghi7373
      @andreainzaghi7373 Месяц назад +1

      indians had more fire arms and bows but a few ZULUS had fire arms
      it is not entirely true that ZULU could defet British on with spears

    • @Stephen-lx9nm
      @Stephen-lx9nm Месяц назад +1

      ​@jasonyork9966If your a septic ,might want to worry about the ending of your occupation 😂

    • @Stephen-lx9nm
      @Stephen-lx9nm Месяц назад

      ​@@4catsnowNot quite has bad as the septicss Canada phillipines ,korea ,vietnam ,somalia Afghanistan 😂😂😂Paper tiger😂

  • @camrenwick
    @camrenwick Месяц назад +17

    Good to hear Sgt Bourne making comments

    • @DJCoachCookie68
      @DJCoachCookie68 Месяц назад +4

      Colour Sergeant Bourne! Lol 'Alriight then! Nobody told you to stop working'

    • @checkpointcharlie1788
      @checkpointcharlie1788 Месяц назад +3

      "...That's right sir, a prayer's as good as a bayonet on a day like this..."

    • @Bromley68
      @Bromley68 29 дней назад +1

      Hitch...Hitch?
      I've seen you Hitch, you're alive

  • @legolover2588
    @legolover2588 2 месяца назад +12

    This was immensely informative and fun to watch

  • @DeaconBlu
    @DeaconBlu 2 месяца назад +7

    Great vid!
    Thank You!

  • @ranica47
    @ranica47 Месяц назад +26

    Watched a docu about this battle years ago and it was suggested that a lot of the British muskets jammed during the battle, a design flaw exacerbated by dust and prolonged firing. By the end it was spears versus rifle butts at which the Zulus were far more skilled.

    • @ryansta
      @ryansta Месяц назад +2

      @ranica47 Remember hearing the same thing. Was told the continuous firing caused some parts to expand within the mechanism due to the heat and the cartridges jammed. That along with the gun powder residue. Brutal days

    • @JumboCod91
      @JumboCod91 Месяц назад +9

      These were not muskets, but breach loading Martini Henry Rifles, which could therefore be fired fairly quickly which would certainly cause overheating problems in prolonged encounters like this one. This battle took place 5 years before the creation of the famous Maxim machine gun. There is no doubt that had this force been equipped with them, the outcome would have been much different.

    • @ryansta
      @ryansta Месяц назад

      @@JumboCod91 Absolutely you're quite correct, hadn't noticed the OP had referred to them as muskets. The other info re them getting too hot after so much firing and the problem of the Martini action jamming as a result is relevant though as far as I know.

    • @Alfred5555
      @Alfred5555 Месяц назад +5

      @@ryansta I've never heard anything about the guns jamming, just days later there was the Battle of Rourke's Drift, where the British fired the same rifles 10X as rapidly and continuously and fought off the Zulu army inflicting massive casualties.
      The official line I've always heard about the disaster at Isandlwana was essentially because the British were caught during camping, a sort of surprise attack, which the British didn't follow proper procedure to defend themselves. Mainly that they didn't make it a priority to pull down their tents and clear the field so proper formations could be formed. Causing a situation where the long range British troops are hemmed in their "urban" environment of tents, without a clear open long range view of targets, while the skilled foot warriors of Zulus could flood into the cramped environment and cut the British down in hand to hand combat.
      Unlike at Rourke's Drift were more standard urban fighting tactics were employed to great success since they knew what to expect, the Isandlwana army were expecting a sort of open field set piece battle.

    • @penderyn8794
      @penderyn8794 Месяц назад +3

      Typical English cope.
      The Zulus were incredibly brave for attacking with only spears against very modern weaponry

  • @saschiver
    @saschiver Месяц назад +4

    I'm watching this on my big telly and I have to say I'm impressed. Great graphics and good story telling. Should do a battle scene from all the wars lol well done 10/10

  • @oneshotme
    @oneshotme 2 месяца назад +1

    I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up

  • @kidthump
    @kidthump 2 месяца назад +3

    Another great video

  • @rondonnis6588
    @rondonnis6588 Месяц назад +2

    People invented pointy things and then they invented stabbing, before long everybody was stabbing each other, it caught on!

  • @jason200912
    @jason200912 Месяц назад +12

    Terrifying to have a solar eclipse kn middle of battle

    • @Alfred5555
      @Alfred5555 Месяц назад

      It's things like that, happening fairly regularly to the British army due to it's widespread across the world and frequent skirmishing in the empire, that likely contributed to a lot of the ideas of the British Empire being a semi-mystical thing.

  • @bammedia3429
    @bammedia3429 2 месяца назад +10

    Outstanding!

  • @ThePilot4ever
    @ThePilot4ever 2 месяца назад

    Impressive showcase!

  • @butchbinion1560
    @butchbinion1560 Месяц назад +1

    Thanks. ✌🏻👊🏼

  • @Cobble_PC
    @Cobble_PC Месяц назад

    I only wished this would’ve popped up on my recommended earlier. This is so cool.
    Also, who’s the narrator? You?
    And did you use any cinematic mods?
    And what PC is bro using?
    And is this OBS recorded?

  • @hiramabiff2017
    @hiramabiff2017 2 месяца назад +13

    So enjoy these posts. Thank you.

  • @daveyboy6985
    @daveyboy6985 Месяц назад +6

    Amazing you got this film footage of the battle,
    The men walked a bit jerky though.😁

    • @abstraqtphilosophy7357
      @abstraqtphilosophy7357 Месяц назад

      😂 did you think it was real footage? You've never watched cartoon or played video games in your life?

    • @superhans85
      @superhans85 Месяц назад

      You've never heard of a joke or sarcasm? ​@@abstraqtphilosophy7357

    • @daveyboy6985
      @daveyboy6985 Месяц назад

      @@abstraqtphilosophy7357 you mean it's not real🤭😲🥴

    • @daveyboy6985
      @daveyboy6985 Месяц назад

      @@abstraqtphilosophy7357 jokes aside, yeah I know it's not real.

    • @egay86292
      @egay86292 Месяц назад +1

      i thought color was invented in the 1940s.

  • @JTB198819962006
    @JTB198819962006 Месяц назад

    Can you make a video about the Battle of Imjin River during the Korean War?

  • @alexc8209
    @alexc8209 Месяц назад +14

    There is so much WRONG with this video. Although it has a lot of commendable elements it totally misses the most important aspects of and reasons for this defeat of a British force by an African army. This discredits both the British and the Zulus btw.
    If you want to understand this battle then please read a book, or ten books and dont be misled by this video.
    look at 9:30 which shows zulus suddenly in close combat with the British line with no explanation and an impression that they simply ran up to them. ridiculous. A very poor and lazy part of an otherwise ok video.
    Vitally important to any explanation of this battle is that first the rate of fire the British line slowed down. This gave the zulus in the chest of their army some hope that they could rush them but it wasnt enough on its own for the zulus to stand up and rush them. This wasnt because the British 'ran out' of ammo but it is because they were getting low and the zulus had gone to ground (crawling slowly through the grass) and were no longer advancing boldly towards the British. Still this encouraged the Zulus who saw it as a good sign.
    Second and most importantly to this whole battle is that the Zulu left wing or 'horn' attacked and wiped out the most extreme right wing company of the British line after Durnfords sudden and unexpected retreat. The zulus didnt simply attack the centre of the British line unsupported, they attacked the right side of the line and began to roll it up and only when the chest of the zulu army saw this they charged forward into the centre of the British line to join those who had attacked the British right.
    This flank attack only happened because the Zulu left horn had ran quite far to outflank the British line and they were being held off by Durnford on his own. BUT and most crucially Durnford had not made any arrangements for getting ammunition to his men and unforgivably he retreated back to the camp without warning Pulleine or any other British officer. This sudden gallop back to the camp allowed the left horn Zulus to rush towards the extreme right flank of the British line and wipe them out. That said Pulliene should have seen the danger and reinforced Durnford or withdrawn his long line before the retreat happened. This leads to a very important detail which is that Pulleine foolishly tried to defend the same line that Chelmsford had laid out for 4000 men. Pulleines smaller force was too thin to defend such a long line and so the men in the right wing companies were standing several yards apart from each other, not shoulder to shoulder. When the zulus closed with them from their right and rear they were overwhelmed in seconds. If someone doesnt understand these details which are not in this video then they cannot possibly understand the battle.
    Also may I say that the British companies shown here are HUGE. In reality a company of the 1st Battalion 24 foot at Isandlwhana was about 90 men not the 2 or 3 hundred shown here and those on the right of the line were in very open order not closed order as shown here.
    I could go on and on but I will stop here. I only write because the comments here dont seem to understand that the important details of this battle are left out for some reason.
    Personally I love the history of the two invasions of Zululand in general. I have casually researched it for about 40 years. I have forgotten more than most know about it but the important things I remember really should have been in any video that wants to explain what happened and why.

    • @johnbuggy9121
      @johnbuggy9121 Месяц назад +6

      Great post. Very informative.

    • @eunicearcilla2321
      @eunicearcilla2321 Месяц назад +2

      I guess details like these are hard to replicate using a videogame

    • @bieituns
      @bieituns Месяц назад

      Make your own video if you think you can do better

    • @alexc8209
      @alexc8209 29 дней назад

      @@bieituns childish comment.

    • @bieituns
      @bieituns 29 дней назад +1

      @@alexc8209 It's your comment that's childish. Can't stand the critics and armchair generals. Only too happy to criticise others and point out how things should be done but never do anything themselves.

  • @d.i.l.l.i.g.a.f.594
    @d.i.l.l.i.g.a.f.594 2 месяца назад +44

    🧐 "i say perkins, that zulu chaps waving his spear at you"
    😮 "Thats not his spear sir" !!

    • @Paulftate
      @Paulftate 2 месяца назад +3

      😂

    • @user-co5qo8eb2r
      @user-co5qo8eb2r 2 месяца назад +3

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @bowriver1
      @bowriver1 Месяц назад +2

      lol

    • @juda8054
      @juda8054 Месяц назад +1

      😂

    • @Agent1W
      @Agent1W Месяц назад

      A Braveheart moment?

  • @MrMelmott
    @MrMelmott Месяц назад +4

    The British decision to leave their heavy machine guns at base … created the opportunity for Zulus to prevail due to force of numbers !!

    • @egay86292
      @egay86292 Месяц назад +1

      likely. but i think Teutonic arrogance was far more deadly.

    • @Alfred5555
      @Alfred5555 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@egay86292 I don't know if it was arrogance, since days later at Rourke's Drift the disaster at Isandlwana was repaid with miracle. From what I've heard the army at Isandlwana just didn't follow proper procedure in general, mainly the collapsing of tents so to form proper formations, etc, leaving behind guns could of just as easily been tactical incompetents of thinking it's not worth carrying them, rather than arrogance. It's not like British weren't well aware of the reality of fighting skilled foot warriors with guns, it was major news across the Empire were a British square was broken by I think Mameluks in Egypt, Kipling even commemorated in a famous poem.

  • @mateomarli8263
    @mateomarli8263 16 дней назад

    Is this a mod!? This looks amazing

  • @NewKanyeFan
    @NewKanyeFan Месяц назад

    Great video. I only want to say for a more authentic environment, using Napoleon TW, the battle should have been done somewhere in southern Spain to more closely resemble where the battle took place

  • @tatumergo3931
    @tatumergo3931 Месяц назад +4

    The cinematic presents an erroneous depiction. The British were not form in a line abreast, but in a skirmish line and too far away from camp to receive ammunition resupply. That is the main reason why superior firepower was not achieved, unlike at Rorke's drift.

  • @zach7193
    @zach7193 2 месяца назад +4

    Well, this was something. Great. Thought it was the end of the Zulu war content on the channel. Even the channel saw the comment I made, said it was the end of the content following the Battle of Kambula. Maybe he tricked me. A prank. I think of this battle moreover than the Little Bighorn with Custer three years before the Zulu war. This battle had twice as many men killed in Custer's last stand. Overconfidence was a factor in the British loss. Chelmsford thought that a well-discipline force such as his would beat back an enemy armed with spears and shield. Chelmsford expected to be a easy victory. This was not the case.

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  2 месяца назад

      Haha thanks, I thought I was not going to be able to make these due to some mod issues but I managed to get them all sorted. I will hopefully be releasing more in the near future as I really enjoy this topic 🙂

  • @JD0124
    @JD0124 2 месяца назад +13

    Excellent work as always. 7:20 "OK! Time to go!"

  • @HendrixTaylor24
    @HendrixTaylor24 4 дня назад

    Love it. Also love being British. What a proud history.

  • @markvenediktov6930
    @markvenediktov6930 Месяц назад +1

    Total war games are just fantastic. Shogun 2 is my fave close 2nd is rome 2

  • @SuperVolsung
    @SuperVolsung Месяц назад

    Do Blood River or Rorkes Drift next

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  Месяц назад

      I have done both of those but they are older videos so the quality may not be as good but check them out and let me know what you think!

  • @HEHOPMALEH
    @HEHOPMALEH Месяц назад +3

    The soldier with the trumpet just doesnt give a fuck

  •  19 дней назад

    Must have been hard for the British to fight an entire army of naked men.

  • @Journeyman09
    @Journeyman09 Месяц назад +1

    Do you use Total War Games? Which game feature this era?

  • @user-yr4mo3iz4d
    @user-yr4mo3iz4d Месяц назад

    glorius battle

  • @smoothmicra
    @smoothmicra Месяц назад

    Looks very much like a video game. I'd play this!

    • @wtfpatrick9975
      @wtfpatrick9975 Месяц назад

      It’s called empire total war the units are a mod

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  Месяц назад

      Yes it is😁the game is napoleon: total war and I’m using the khartum and Zulu mod

  • @joycekoch5746
    @joycekoch5746 Месяц назад +2

    The Zulu's had an odd belief about the afterlife.
    To them if the entrails of a corpse were cut out the soul would be trapped
    as a ghost on Earth and could not ascend to heaven. This was why after the battle
    the Zulus cut open the stomachs of the British and gutted them. This gives one a insight
    how high the hatred level existed for the Zulu's against the British and this was not just a battle
    in a classical sense that would exist in Europe but a contest where the hatred was so total
    that they wished to damn their opponents as shades for eternity.

    • @byznt7447
      @byznt7447 Месяц назад +3

      Or maybe the zulus were just unpleasant people

    • @joycekoch5746
      @joycekoch5746 Месяц назад +4

      @@byznt7447 They were brave and noble in some ways but terrible as well. Their undoing was they had many enemies by the time the British showed up not unlike the Aztecs facing the Spanish.

    • @catocall7323
      @catocall7323 Месяц назад +1

      @@joycekoch5746 Thanks for mentioning that, people don't understand that the most powerful weapon Cortes used against the Aztec were other Aztec armies in dispute ver the Aztec succesion and the surrounding tribes that loathed and despised the Aztecs for the regular atrocities the Aztecs inflicted upon them.
      Gunpowder and horses were just shock weapons that the Spanish employed at opportune moments but they didn't have enough of either to achieve victory through those means alone.

  • @turdferguson2839
    @turdferguson2839 Месяц назад +1

    A highly trained, more advanced military underestimating and disregarding a much larger, less advanced military and getting slaughtered... it's amazing how similar this battle is to the battle of little bighorn.

    • @OriginalNiceButOdd
      @OriginalNiceButOdd Месяц назад

      And the whole Vietnam War

    • @arthriticgrandpa2875
      @arthriticgrandpa2875 Месяц назад

      Although it’s important to note that the Zulu forces still suffered heavier casualties here.

  • @Fatherofheroesandheroines
    @Fatherofheroesandheroines 22 дня назад

    Peter O Toole played the arrogant Chelmsford to a tee. He was dismissive of the Zulus and didn't leave behind a strong commander. The results speak for themselves.

  • @Brans-zy8dx
    @Brans-zy8dx 2 месяца назад

    Would have been cool if you added Lt Melvill & Lt Coghill carrying the Queens colours out of battle and loosing their lives in the river saving the flag

  • @MrMelmott
    @MrMelmott Месяц назад +1

    Some of the British officers fled the scene on horseback claiming they were guarding the colors .. later awarded bongs for “bravery. “

    • @MrMAC8964
      @MrMAC8964 Месяц назад

      so the British officers were pot heads ?

    • @stevetheduck1425
      @stevetheduck1425 Месяц назад +1

      They died. The attempt is shown quite realistically in 'Zulu Dawn'.
      Some of Durnford's Horse got to Rorke's drift but didn't stop, some of the Natal Native Contingent as well.
      In fact the Zulus who crossed the river and attacked Rorke's Drift did so against their King's orders.
      The whole British attack on Zululand was the idea of a businessman who managed to convince Chelmsford that an attack was a good idea, and it flew in the face of agreed treaties.

    • @MrMelmott
      @MrMelmott Месяц назад

      @@stevetheduck1425 they were awarded Victoria crosses for their attempt to escape the field of battle “saving the colours “ 😝

  • @ronlucock3702
    @ronlucock3702 Месяц назад +8

    It seems other people don't like it when you invade their lands. We never learn.

    • @untitled55354
      @untitled55354 Месяц назад +3

      The Zulu had done that as well during its empire building - albeit on a much smaller scale.

    • @ejakeulater4990
      @ejakeulater4990 Месяц назад +4

      Why do you think they were a warrior society? It wasnt ti have afternoon tea. Invading nation gets invaded its the circle of life

    • @YunsAvatar
      @YunsAvatar Месяц назад

      You need to actually look up the Zulu a little then.
      They invaded and destroyed (or forced joining of their warrior society) essentially all of their fellow African neighbors.
      Also, the British were there at the plea of the Dutch Boer settlers that were in increasing conflict with the Zulu.
      Finally, the straw that broke it all was that a group of Zulu refugees that had fled to British land were hunted down and killed by Zulu warriors in a violation of accepted British territory and law.

  • @David1701G
    @David1701G Месяц назад +7

    No many mentioned of the supply of ammunition which caused a reduction of the rate of fire, allowing the Zulu's to surge forward.

    • @pauls064
      @pauls064 Месяц назад +2

      Because it never happened. One of the old wives tales raised by pseudo historians on history channel etc…

    • @David1701G
      @David1701G Месяц назад +1

      @@pauls064 It is claimed, Chelmford ordered the supply boxes bolted down , there have been claimed the '45 round casing were of poor quality. Plus the columns were too far from the supply wagons

    • @pauls064
      @pauls064 Месяц назад +1

      @@David1701G “it’s claimed” yes, by cable tv revisionists who want to make dramatic “documentaries". But all battlefield evidence and eyewitness accounts indicate no troops on the firing line, or anywhere on the field at isandlwana ever ran low on ammo. Younghusband’s band on the far left fired until their final charge, durnford on the right fell back because the left horn flanked them.

    • @abstraqtphilosophy7357
      @abstraqtphilosophy7357 Месяц назад

      ​@@David1701Gwithout their guns and canons, the British forces were useless. Horrendous hand to hand combatants. What would European and American warriors be without guns? Nothing.

    • @michael3088
      @michael3088 Месяц назад +4

      @@abstraqtphilosophy7357 Thats not remotely true, usually in european warfair they fire a few volleys and close in with bayonets for a reason and officers were extrextremely well trained in swordsmanship. What did them in was the british were outnumberd 10-1. There's a very good book called 'Swordsmen of the British Empire' which is filled with lots of first hand accounts of men who had combat experience, that discribes many native sword styles around the empire and how british officers often cross trained the martial arts with their own military sabre style.

  • @Whiskers4169
    @Whiskers4169 Месяц назад

    which game and mod did you use ?

  • @jayworldjs
    @jayworldjs Месяц назад

    That's the only problem when using guns in warfare. When they're not firing.

  • @saltygoose2943
    @saltygoose2943 Месяц назад

    Like wolves on the fold, And how can man die better, by Mike Snook. If you want a great book on this.

  • @matthewbradbury5907
    @matthewbradbury5907 Месяц назад +4

    This animation is probably the most inaccurate depiction of the battle. Not how it happened at all.

  • @StephenCowley001
    @StephenCowley001 Месяц назад +1

    Which bishops were converted? What were they converted to?

    • @stvdagger8074
      @stvdagger8074 Месяц назад +1

      Probably a reference to John Colenso, Anglican Bishop of Natal. He developed some controversial religious opinion, some of which appeared to be influenced by African religious practices, which resulted in attempts to excommunicate and depose him. He also opposed the invasion of Zululand. See en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Colenso

    • @stvdagger8074
      @stvdagger8074 Месяц назад +1

      n case you are wondering about the "the Zulu... ...put an end to a great dynasty" part of that quote by Prime Minister Disraeli, he is referring to the death of Louis-Napoléon, Prince Imperial, the only child of Emperor Napoleon III of France. He was killed by a Zulu warrior on June 1, 1879.

  • @homerfj1100
    @homerfj1100 Месяц назад

    Bullets and cannon against spears.

  • @Agent1W
    @Agent1W Месяц назад

    Decisive Battles Industrial Era: Isandlwana.

  • @MyScotty7
    @MyScotty7 Месяц назад

    20000 v 4000 is abit outnumbered,which school did these officers go to??

  • @user-rq9cz7nu9m
    @user-rq9cz7nu9m Месяц назад

    Is the movie based on "Fall of the Samurai" or "Empire"?

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  Месяц назад +1

      This was based on a movie called "Zulu Dawn"

    • @user-rq9cz7nu9m
      @user-rq9cz7nu9m Месяц назад

      @@cinematicbattles559
      I know, thanks, but what I want to know is what version of Total War are you using?

  • @user-um4zg4xs9o
    @user-um4zg4xs9o Месяц назад +1

    British are awesome warriors

  • @cloroxbleach9222
    @cloroxbleach9222 Месяц назад

    I wonder how the Zulu Wars would have looked like if the Zulus were entirely firearm equipped. I reckon it would actually work to their detriment compared to their historical tactics, assuming no European firearm drills

    • @stevetheduck1425
      @stevetheduck1425 Месяц назад

      The armed Zulus at Rorke's Drift took a position on a hill some distance away and sniped steadily all day, doing very little.
      Analysis of captured Zulu firearms later suggested they had some black powder, but were firing stones and bits of iron scrap of any shape.
      More a prestige weapon than a battle-winning one.

  • @Livinginlanguage
    @Livinginlanguage Месяц назад +3

    Good - but why are the distances used not in miles?!

    • @terminallydrunk1900
      @terminallydrunk1900 Месяц назад

      That's a american thing

    • @gcm747
      @gcm747 Месяц назад +1

      Are you aware of how measurement is done outside of America?

    • @Livinginlanguage
      @Livinginlanguage Месяц назад +1

      @@gcm747 - I am. I don't live in America. I also know what measurements were used there at the time. You know - history. Do you?

    • @Livinginlanguage
      @Livinginlanguage Месяц назад +1

      @@terminallydrunk1900 - what is 'an American thing'? I'm English. We use miles and we used miles then. It's an historical thing. :)

    • @Livinginlanguage
      @Livinginlanguage 19 дней назад

      @@terminallydrunk1900 - I'm English; and it's 'an American thing'. ;)

  • @adamcarrey9115
    @adamcarrey9115 Месяц назад

    0:35 wtf with the bugler.

  • @BipoIarbear
    @BipoIarbear Месяц назад

    The fact there was an eclipse is mindblowing to me 😳

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  Месяц назад

      I know right... what are the odds such a creepy thing to happen during a battle

    • @BipoIarbear
      @BipoIarbear Месяц назад

      @@cinematicbattles559 both sides would have probably been like "we caused it"🤣

  • @fredjones2299
    @fredjones2299 Месяц назад

    Alllright then!!!

  • @jasoncreamer5747
    @jasoncreamer5747 Месяц назад

    The Brits were very disturbed about the bodies of their soldiers being disemboweled but the Zulus were just doing their spirits a favour,

  • @Im-Red-Faction
    @Im-Red-Faction Месяц назад

    What game is this? And or mod?

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  Месяц назад +1

      Napoleon total war with the Khartum and Zulu mod

    • @Im-Red-Faction
      @Im-Red-Faction Месяц назад

      @@cinematicbattles559 thank you very much! This game looks fun! Is it like a sandbox game like ultimate battle simulator is?

  • @artv.9989
    @artv.9989 Месяц назад

    I dont get it, couldnt archers easily take out rifle troops like those

  • @daftdinosaur5627
    @daftdinosaur5627 Месяц назад

    Could you please tell me what the game is called?

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  Месяц назад

      Yes the game is Napoleon Total War and I'm using the Khartum and Zulu Mod

    • @daftdinosaur5627
      @daftdinosaur5627 Месяц назад

      @@cinematicbattles559 Thank you, also how did you make the game look so good

  • @user-om7xy7wg1x
    @user-om7xy7wg1x Месяц назад

    The regiment were likely not the 24th
    24th wearing green facings not yellow

  • @alexanderh.5814
    @alexanderh.5814 Месяц назад +1

    It was a victory for the Zulu but at a very high cost. Almost 3 times as many KIA than the British. Zulu couldn’t keep up with those loses.

  • @itsmenoobbob
    @itsmenoobbob 2 месяца назад

    is this empire total war? or a different total war

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  2 месяца назад +3

      Napoleon total war with the Victoria at war mod installed 👌

  • @alanwayte432
    @alanwayte432 Месяц назад

    This is very different to the historical texts

  • @mjribes
    @mjribes Месяц назад +6

    After the battle, the Zulu soldiers cut each fallen British soldier open "from groin to chops". The British press used this gory detail to underline how barbaric the Zulu were. However, the truth was that this was an act of honour on the part of the Zulu. The Zulu believed that such a cut was required for the fallen British soldiers' spirits to leave their bodies and travel to the afterlife. So what seemed barbaric was in fact an act of respect.

    • @crowmagpie
      @crowmagpie Месяц назад +2

      Yeah right 😂

    • @mjribes
      @mjribes Месяц назад

      @@crowmagpie What do you mean?

    • @crowmagpie
      @crowmagpie Месяц назад

      @@mjribes you really believe that?

    • @mjribes
      @mjribes Месяц назад +3

      @crowmagpie If you're referring to the gutting, it's a pretty well-known fact. Google it. If you're referring to the Beitish propaganda, that's documented in news articles from the time.

    • @crowmagpie
      @crowmagpie Месяц назад +2

      @@mjribes you're the only one spouting "British propaganda "

  • @RickyRyan718
    @RickyRyan718 Месяц назад +7

    It’s a shame Africa didn’t develop the same way as the west, British forces are centuries ahead of Africa, scary thought

    • @Eric-qm5xw
      @Eric-qm5xw Месяц назад +2

      I don’t know why they invented the wheel and the lightbulb and resided in the kingdom of Wakanda 😂

  • @mparssfo
    @mparssfo Месяц назад

    I refuse to watch AI narrated videos, otherwise I am sure I would have liked this.

  • @tinysnowz
    @tinysnowz 2 месяца назад

    what mods?

  • @lockeagamemnon6847
    @lockeagamemnon6847 Месяц назад

    what is the name of the game?

  • @carlossabateanton4486
    @carlossabateanton4486 Месяц назад

    what´s the name of the game?

  • @GrandAdmThrawn
    @GrandAdmThrawn 2 месяца назад +2

    Excuse me, sir.
    A strange message from Vereker, my lord.
    It would seem that Pulleine has a battle on his hands.
    No details. No intelligence.

  • @patsmith8523
    @patsmith8523 2 месяца назад

    Tactically speaking, the British might have had a better chance if the whole group had formed square with their artillery and supplies in the center. The Zulus would have had a harder time breaking through.

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  2 месяца назад

      Yes you are right, the British did eventually perform this tactic against the Zulus, the next video that I'm making will cover this battle ;)

    • @patsmith8523
      @patsmith8523 2 месяца назад

      @@cinematicbattles559 Actually, I was thinking about Isandlwana. Had they laagered the camp and formed square or manned defensive positions inside, (I think it was mentioned that Chelmsford decide not to) the British might have survived. I misspoke earlier.

  • @malcolmmitchell6529
    @malcolmmitchell6529 Месяц назад

    The robotic voice absolutely spoils it , why is it so popular?

  • @dannywlm63
    @dannywlm63 Месяц назад

    Invasion?

  • @pauls064
    @pauls064 Месяц назад +1

    VO isn’t bad, but I always check pronunciation before recording. Too many ridiculous mispronunciations…

  • @fred24715
    @fred24715 Месяц назад

    They all have the same faces, are they all related?

  • @user-ri7ib9xf4k
    @user-ri7ib9xf4k 2 месяца назад +12

    Great example of British Exceptionalism.

    • @babatall1283
      @babatall1283 Месяц назад +2

      Invading and colonizing that exceptionalism?

    • @markantony4674
      @markantony4674 Месяц назад

      Buh buh cry me a river !​@@babatall1283

    • @reanukeeves2k77
      @reanukeeves2k77 Месяц назад +7

      @@babatall1283 as every country did in those days, only the Brits were better at it

    • @LuLingqi101
      @LuLingqi101 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@babatall1283zulus were invaders

    • @babatall1283
      @babatall1283 Месяц назад

      @OldHunterGehrman101 (oh come on) did zulu go to Europe and invade European, also enrich themselves from the back of European. Zulu had tribal affairs that led to conflict and invasion, which often happens. But do not compare zulu invasion to English colonist invasion.

  • @philip013
    @philip013 Месяц назад

    Zulus!............. Fousands of 'em.

  • @josephfeeley3476
    @josephfeeley3476 20 дней назад

    Ahh the arrogance of empire!!!! To note, we in the new world had our "Chelsford" called "Custer"! History is never learned!!!

  • @bashkillszombies
    @bashkillszombies Месяц назад +1

    Could you imagine how regressive a Total War produced game on this era would be? They'd have zulu warrior women with AK74N's and no moral break, 99 attack, 99 defence, and call it balanced.

  • @regwatson2017
    @regwatson2017 Месяц назад +2

    So where were the British Gatling Guns ?

    • @downlink5877
      @downlink5877 Месяц назад

      They didn’t have any at Isandlwana

    • @Paris__
      @Paris__ Месяц назад +1

      They left them behind at camp!

    • @downlink5877
      @downlink5877 Месяц назад +1

      The Gatlings were with the Royal Navy detachment at Eshowe

  • @user-yh9mc1sw6j
    @user-yh9mc1sw6j Месяц назад

    Pulliene was a Lieutenant Colonel, not a Lieutenant!🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧🇬🇧

  • @topbanana4013
    @topbanana4013 Месяц назад

    no mention of the numbers very important. its like usa vs japan in the pacific shear numbers won the battle zulu 20k troops uk 2k lol and the start is totally wrong you giving a force claim that the brits marched into battle in Colum. they was all sitting around ? on the same day zulu had heavy loses at Rourke drift and later Gingindlovu

  • @Demonsquirrel
    @Demonsquirrel 2 месяца назад +2

    Hi

  • @Matser666777
    @Matser666777 Месяц назад

    I'm much more interested in the names of the Zulu Leaders

  • @raresaturn
    @raresaturn Месяц назад

    didn't they even fix bayonets?

  • @wrestlingconnoisseur
    @wrestlingconnoisseur Месяц назад

    Am I correct in the presumption that this marked the only triumph of the Zulus in the Anglo-Zulu War?

  • @derek6579
    @derek6579 Месяц назад

    Natarl not naytal pronunciation !

  • @bryanshaughnessy8043
    @bryanshaughnessy8043 23 дня назад

    Amemrica moments ..i.e wounnded knee

  • @ImperialMindMusic
    @ImperialMindMusic Месяц назад

    What totar war is this?

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  Месяц назад

      game is Napoleon Total War and I'm using the Khartum and Zulu Mod

  • @theoverlord1925
    @theoverlord1925 Месяц назад

    If the British had Colt single action revolvers, Winchester repetition rifles , and some Gatling machine guns they might have done better . Their equipment was obsolete compared to what the US was producing at the time.

    • @thomasferguson2193
      @thomasferguson2193 Месяц назад

      Revolvers and Winchester’s didn’t help Custer all that much at Bighorn. Gatling guns might have helped but the had been assigned to a different outfit in the locality during the prelude to the battle. The loss had more to do with bad intelligence/overconfidence

  • @captainhurricane5705
    @captainhurricane5705 Месяц назад

    This was not a decisive victory for the Zulus at all. It was an embarrassing loss for the British, but nothing more than that.

  • @edwardsoriano9335
    @edwardsoriano9335 Месяц назад

    Thay punch slow and funny

  • @river.m2010
    @river.m2010 2 месяца назад

    Hello, which TW game and mod is this?

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  2 месяца назад

      Victoria at war mod for napoleon total war

    • @river.m2010
      @river.m2010 2 месяца назад

      @@cinematicbattles559 for some reason I cant get that mod to work. It says theyre changing to shogun 2?

    • @cinematicbattles559
      @cinematicbattles559  2 месяца назад

      @@river.m2010 thats strange, you can always try this one (They're basically the same) : www.moddb.com/mods/the-khartum-and-zulu-mod

    • @river.m2010
      @river.m2010 2 месяца назад

      @@cinematicbattles559 thank you

  • @krismurphy7711
    @krismurphy7711 Месяц назад

    HOW could the casualties be approx the same? 1300 Brits and 2000 Zulu? If the Brits had been firing rifles and canons at the Zulus for HOURS, there should have been disproportionate losses to Zulus....??????

    • @kithall3925
      @kithall3925 Месяц назад

      They missed?!! 😅

    • @richardstephens5570
      @richardstephens5570 Месяц назад +1

      That's only Zulus killed. There were thousands more wounded.

    • @LennyMadona-jm8yq
      @LennyMadona-jm8yq Месяц назад

      If you read the book or watch the film, the Quatermasters loggies(logistics) refused to hand out ammunition to the levies (African contingent) numbering 4/500 men… then they couldn’t get many of the ammo boxes open, so in the end it was bayonet against spear.
      The Brits are the most highly trained and most professional army in the world but 30 plus to 1… I don’t like them odds so they meet the maker.

    • @krismurphy7711
      @krismurphy7711 Месяц назад

      @@LennyMadona-jm8yq No doubt they were doomed, but I had thought the difference in killed was significant....it is almost equal. THAT begs an explanation. You would assume trained soldiers with easily reloaded RIFLES, against natives with spears would be 5-1...10-1

  • @dannybartlett4225
    @dannybartlett4225 Месяц назад

    and then they killed 6000 for 10 deaths deleting the Zulus and destroying the tribe