In the good old days before CD's when vinyl was the main format. Turntable manufacturners had top of the range or "reference" turntables but they wern't behemoths like they are now. Yes they were large but you could actually pick them up and move them. These days you need 4 people and a crane to get the damn things into your house. So what's changed? Are these manufacturers using mass instead of technical and engineering experties to solve a problem that don't exist? The rock being dragged through the groove dosn't know or care if the platter weighs 10kg or 100kg and does it matter. You can isolate from vibrations and have perfect pitch control on a turntable with more modest dimensions and weight, it may cost a fortune but at least it will fit inside your 3 bed semi.
Also mass does next to nothing to isolate. I saw an experiment when a wine glass was placed at one end of a 1 ton slab of lightly textured granite mounted on a steel frame. The glass was filled with a small amount of water and a light shone on to it to detect movement. At the opposite end of the slab someone very gently rubbed a dry cloth across the surface of the stone. Sure enough, tiny ripples were detected on the water surface. I love Thorens and own my Dad's beloved and immaculate TD160 Super, but this is just nonsense.
Lol, you are a laughing stock. Yes they were huge and heavy the top of the line turn tables. Look at the vintage Thorens Reference turntable. It's 200lbs!
So we have two massive TT one from Japan and this one from Switzerland and if you look at them they're kind of similar. I'm going to discount the OMA TT because it's rubbish.. So I Love Thorens and I've always loved them. I've also loved Micro Seike which is now Tech Das. Their 01 TT is close to 400K.. Isn't it funny in these days of digital vinyl is still highly loved!!!
In the good old days before CD's when vinyl was the main format. Turntable manufacturners had top of the range or "reference" turntables but they wern't behemoths like they are now. Yes they were large but you could actually pick them up and move them. These days you need 4 people and a crane to get the damn things into your house. So what's changed? Are these manufacturers using mass instead of technical and engineering experties to solve a problem that don't exist? The rock being dragged through the groove dosn't know or care if the platter weighs 10kg or 100kg and does it matter. You can isolate from vibrations and have perfect pitch control on a turntable with more modest dimensions and weight, it may cost a fortune but at least it will fit inside your 3 bed semi.
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Also mass does next to nothing to isolate. I saw an experiment when a wine glass was placed at one end of a 1 ton slab of lightly textured granite mounted on a steel frame. The glass was filled with a small amount of water and a light shone on to it to detect movement. At the opposite end of the slab someone very gently rubbed a dry cloth across the surface of the stone. Sure enough, tiny ripples were detected on the water surface.
I love Thorens and own my Dad's beloved and immaculate TD160 Super, but this is just nonsense.
Lol, you are a laughing stock.
Yes they were huge and heavy the top of the line turn tables.
Look at the vintage Thorens Reference turntable. It's 200lbs!
Questo per Austinacciu è Fantastico!!
magnifico.💯💯💯💯💯💯
Quelle platine Thorens monumentale 😊
The turntable is 220,000 Euros.
The speakers use dynamic drivers, not electrostatic.
'I have a similar one by Matsui ..'
So we have two massive TT one from Japan and this one from Switzerland and if you look at them they're kind of similar. I'm going to discount the OMA TT because it's rubbish.. So I Love Thorens and I've always loved them. I've also loved Micro Seike which is now Tech Das. Their 01 TT is close to 400K.. Isn't it funny in these days of digital vinyl is still highly loved!!!
It is incredible the level they have taken records too - like piloting a 747
Image buying a player for 220k and then having to deal with a almost antique imperfect €15 music medium
And I thought my TD 125 W/ the SME 3009 was something special.
Yet ironically still not as good at playing records as the Neuman VM lathe that the lacquer master was cut on 50 years ago.
Would like to see how well this does against say an EMT 927 idler drive or ENT 950 direct drive turntable. Or perhaps a Technics SP 10 Mk III.