The Joe Budden Podcast Episode 435 | Shaking The Tree
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- Опубликовано: 27 апр 2021
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On this episode: Joe, Rory, Mal, and Parks discuss new camera angles, transparency, and respect between friends. Mal shares his thoughts on having other people on the show and what he would have done differently, Joe believes Rory & Mal didn’t behave as friends, and the guys voice whether or not they feel respected. The JBP addresses caring about money, hypotheticals on the podcast ending, and Parks & Joe give their own takes on how the situation played out. Joe speaks to entitlement, how he felt towards Mal for riding with Rory, and Mal unfollowing him on social media. The guys share how they feel about podcasting, abandonment, and the JBP fanbase. Julius Randle, feelings towards Ice and Ish, DMX’s memorial service, Justin Bieber’s dreads, Snowfall vs. The Wire, Re-recording songs, and MORE! Sleeper Picks: Joe | NBDY - “F.O.E” Rory | Chiiild - “Gone” Mal | Belly - “IYKYK” Parks | Khrysis - “Why” (Ft. Problem)
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You could tell joe just wanted to yell “I’m the boss and y’all ain’t shit” 😂😂😂
😂
he's right lol thats the worst part
And my man joe should’ve doubled down and said it since they were laying it all on the table
I don’t get how they don’t know the hierarchy. They acting like they all equal and it’s just not the case. The pod goes on without them, it doesn’t go on without Joe
53:02 is precisely where joe was going to say this
Joe contradicting himself saying he doesn't owe his friends anything but expects Mal to ride with him against Rory smh
Excalty 🤦🏽♂️
It’s crazy 🤦🏽♀️
Mal was there in the trenches talking about POP 😂
One is respect and one is loyalty
@@wisdomsfruit joe is that you buddy 😄🤣🤣🤣🤣
Who came back to this after Rory & Mal's response?
Present like I gotta see the shift in chemistry
It’s such a different podcast now
I had to gauge the tension
We all did lol
Lol I sure did
Joe wants Mal to be blind loyal but Mal is not built like that. Find that in Parks only
Faxxx
Mal clearly don't understand business! Mal can stand on the corner and shoot the shhh! It's a business Joe is the main attraction! The hell with the friendship friends don't take care of your family! Your business does!
@@panchopablo6887 you can do both, you see the thing in business u meet so many suckers the bigger ypu get you need from the mud reminders dont let these narrative fool you jay still roll with his day 1s tah tah.. diddy his & list goes on
@@jpjuster2352 all business Tah Tah play his position Loyally! Why hang with another business minded individual such as Diddy? He understand boardrooms and the industry! Iron sharpens iron! Lets be clear Jay Z is the image and Sean Carter is the Businessman!
Facts!! Text book narcissist
Joe: "Contractual you have obligations, friendship aside"
Joe 3 minutes later: "I don't give a fuck about contracts"
This man will say anything to avoid accountability.
Shit is sick
EXACTLY 💯
and that’s why we love him lmao why don’t these two make their own podcast and see what happens
He doesn't give a fuck about a contract when he's bound but wants to go and bind others to the contracts. Joe is the guy who complains about being jerked in his career and will go on to jerk other people the same way. Joe was never principled, he switches his stance on so many things based what is good for him at the moment not what is right or wrong.
@@Mac_Raymond It’s the same thing he does every time Puff’s name is brought up.
"I've realized people aren't built like me"- Respectful way of telling someone they don't have morals or principles like YOU do..
Mal is far from respectful.
Naw it could mean a bunch of things
I’m the same way. Clearly they don’t
Word
@@thomasbost9512 fr?
“If you wanna see if people are really friends, put some money on the table”
- Mal
As if Joe put nothing up for the podcast.
Mak Stoke that quote.
@@Ntw24 “which is why he gets the percentage he gets” ~ R & M
@@Bugneedfix Joe explained what kinda deal they had. Mixy boys actually seem to not know what's in the contract though. Joe clearly says they had a net income percentage. Whatever Joe made NET, they got their percentages of that. If they misunderstood or didn't know about it, that's on them.
@@Ntw24 so why would Joe get mad if they asked to see the numbers??? They're on a % based contract. Not salary. So if the show do , lets say $500,000 and they're contract calls for 10%, thats 50k. But if they show start getting more sponsors and now its doing 1mil but u still only getting 50k instead of 100k now, that aint right and of course u gon try to see the numbers and whats going on. Any person with business sense would...
You can tell this was the goodbye episode of a legacy.
They snakes that’s all
@@plentywater773 huh?
Yeah. I'M SAVING THIS!!! 😱👆🏿
Foreal... shit is so fuckin sad. And the fact that this shit has been goin on for years.. they were really good at hiding the behind the scenes shit until the past couple months.
....or something like that 🥸
This the most Mal has talked in YEARS bruh had a lot to get off his chest 🤣
His chest was HEAVY
I love to see it
Rightfully so. I couldn’t imagine how much of a headache it would be being Joe’s friend for so many hears
Well Joe been telling his side of the whole situation and for the last 6 weeks wym
He just crying and complaining. Send his ass back home
Believe it or not, some people can be happy that Mal and Rory are back and still miss Ice and Ish’s contributions at the same time. It’s okay, lol.
The shit that killed me was all the joe fanboys shitting on mal and rory and being toxic to fans that missed them lol now it's our turn with ice and ish 😈
Yep!
Im one of those ppl. I was hopin they took the time to be gone while ice & ish do their things. I am happy they're back
Agreed cause Ish and Ice did a great job.
You poddin
Who came back here after the *"Your'e Fired !?"* rant today ?
foreel, i had to see where it started lol
@@denair2629 It didn't start here though. Would have to go back a few episodes even before this one.
Facts n Mal justs looks worse smh. How do u tell the boss youre wrong for telling someone to take a few days off. Mal was wrong for thinking hes on Joes level. You were an employee and theres nothing wrong with that. They let Akademiks get in their head, so they tried to bully their way into ownership of JBP. Name one place where you can start as an employee and get a raise to part owner. lmao. Yall look like spoiled brats.
@@richdropoutsmoova Why y’all think Ak was a fatass factor in this.. The common denominator in every failed relationship Joe has had business wise or elsewhere is JOE..
@@dondavo_ nah Joe was 100% right on this. This all makes sense. These idiots tried to leverage their friendship for something they didnt create
Rorys professionalism is so underrated. With his type of demeanor he’s gonna make it far. He outgrew this pod and it shows in numbers.
Yes sir
Wolf in sheep’s clothing
He did what anyone in any business should be doing by wanting to know what the value of the product is and his worth of that. Imagine if he started it, brought in Joe and had worked everything out where they were all paid equal percentage/value ? How long would Joe have lasted in that situation?
@@chrisfrank2664 definitely not why I called him that
@@myae9563 - I was replying to the main comment. Not to your comment.
No worries !!!
Mal & joes friendship took more of a hit than Rory who he had the actual problems with.
YES! there'll never be the same again
Agreed.
They'll get passed it
So true
Facts! Joe and Mals relationship goes beyond before even Rory.
“I’m never gonna expect people to move how I move”. - Stand Tall Mal. You definitely owe your friends more than people off the street.
No because it depends on what it is .
The only thing you may owe a friend is help
@@jmc5910 the stupidity 😭
Everybody needs a laptop...not just joe. Joe seems to feel they're not looking at him as the leader or main peace....and he has a problem with that. The energy is off...and im gonna give them a month.
You missed what Joe was saying. The shit is about entitlement. You don't owe NOBODY shit unless they ya kids or responsibility. They making a living by being there. They showed that they don't care about the podcast AS MUCH as he does so they can be the WORKERS and he make the boss decisions because it's the joe Budden mf podcast this why friends and family mixed with business never works out.
@@xLamont_ The problem is Joe's brain has been ruined by drugs so he has a hard time grasping the perspective of people who believe that if you both consider yourself to be friends, have a history of knowing each, sharing life moments, know each other's family, events and overall have a fantastic standing then MOST PEOPLE believe that you and they OWE each other honesty and communication.
The problem is Joe doesnt feel he owes anyone anything to anybody but he also said he shows respect to strangers in the street. Then Mal asked if they deserve it then Joe didnt answer the question 3 times then admitted no they dont. Joe's brain is kaput. Joe has said before he has "Never lost a friend cus of *some words*." Thats a funny statement cus its both Gaslighting and a completely stupid statement to make if you value your friends outside of monetary gain which he has eluded to that he doesnt.
Joe doesnt understand a lot which is fine because hes human but being ignorant isnt the same as being stupid. Joe is stupid.
Parker is like a teachers pet for joe budden, he’s a yes man 100%.
Joe could say, “I don’t even respect my mother.”
Parks would say, “yeah I agree, no one should respect their mother.”
Lmao
Lmfaooooooooooo
Wtf 😂 😂 😂
Parker 😂💀
@@CN3Music that niggas name is Parker from now on. 🤣
After listening to this episode I realized that joe is a whole clown
We knew Joe was a clown years ago when he was on the internet doin line smokin cigs bein a cry baby and shit. Slaughterhouse was raw MC's but here comes joe with all his issues hurting the group
@@LewisSmithJr tf joe was nasty in slaughterhouse
Agreed man. Loved the dude. But this is a stain he won’t be able to wash off. Your (Joe’s) Legacy is to disrespect your friends.
Damn when Mal said “You didn’t build anything with Jay, He’s not your friend” i think he hurt JB feelings 😂😂💀☠️
wasn't that the goal
He gave Joe a little dose of reality
Time ?
Lmaoo was a crazy example joe tried to use
@@wuzi9818 around the 30 mins mark
Joe saying he doesn’t feel he owes his friends respect is wild. It’s like he’s putting the beef back in the oven.
DA BEEF WASN'T COOKED TO 165 JUST YET🤦🏾♂️😂😂😂😂
That’s just Joe trying to win a argument with semantics
Good, bring Ice and Ish back
@Father Strength lol and when is this soon? Joe is an ego maniac. Listen to him. My god, he can't ever stop.
You are witnessing the worst of human ego in real time.
A person's ego and arrogance will even destroy themselves along with everything else.
Watching this after watching Mal & Rory's response is crazy!
That’s exactly what I’m doing rn
Yo I loved this !! First time never heard of it.I have heard of Joe some what. Look I like what yal doing real talk !! Mal ! Keep that 1000 SALUTE !! You like me you wrong you wrong YOU CAN BE MY KIDS I DONT PLAY THEM GAMES !! BUDDEN !! I RESPECT YOU TO CAUSE YOU SAY WHAT YOU SAID !! ITS WHAT IT IS !! THAT IS ME TOO. DOPE !!!
They sat here 3 hours tapdancing and lying saying it wasn't about money
Facts
Joe knew this whole episode that he was going to fire these guys
He knew he had to.
Most of the audience did too lol
Joe got mad ads on here, it has 1 million views. His plan was to bring them back just to rob them again.
The thing is... He can't fire them though... 😂
@@jess4now12 why not?
For 3hrs Joe’s brain kept asking itself.
“Why do they keep saying Our podcast”
🤔
Basically 😂😂😂
Lmaooo that one 😭😭😭
Bruhhh ahahahajajaajja
this got it
This is the comment I've been looking for 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 this is exactly what I was thinking
I am insanely frustrated for Mal. Looks like he wanted to spaz on Joe several times. lol
Factsss u can see it in his face
All Mal was some RESPECT !!!
He's still torn about having a friend who's also your boss. That much was very clear.
Mal looks lil up set
Nah fr he was hella quiet
Friendship and Business don't mix, never did...never will. Good way to lose a friend.
And living with friends
Not ture
COMPLETELY FALSE
Friendship has moral! Business does not hv moral!
@@toveymcgeehe2845 would you trust the homie to run your business off the strength of being the homie?
When ever I feel like I need friends....I come back to this episode lol
LOOOOOOOOL
😂😂😂😂
Nasty behaviour 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Facts
The vibe feels like a couple reuniting after a horrible fight..
Mal not letting Joe talk him in circles? Magical.
*NEW RORY AND MAALLL*
@@ChewyPlz bars
That's years of noticing BS
@@lungelobaba9942 facts 💯
He knows Joe.
Mal peeps all Joe’s antics, but he picks and chooses his battles.
Rory thinks he deserves the same level of respect as Joe. Swear to you, as soon as he gets a better deal he will leave.
Anyone that knows this podcast from when it first started it was called all name this podcast later The minute they let him call it the Joe Budden podcast they became a Joe Budden employees now how much value is in that depends on how much value they bring to the table that being said Joe will never get exactly where he wants to be in life if he keeps over playing his hand what he is a true showman and I think at the end of the day he really don't care cuz he knows he's going to bounce back no matter what
@@bmike633 on top of that. When he keeps saying "where could you do what you did and just come back" basically saying where can you challenge your boss to hands & expect him not to tell you to stay home. Then how do you leave a 15yr relationship to fend for a million dollar podcast in spite of that.
To be honest I haven't heard the podcast in a little while so I didn't hear the whole throwing hands thing but when they brought that up that is ridiculous Rory looks like a cornball You're on a show called the The Joe Budden podcast and you're trying to fight your boss Joe button that would wipe the floor with you is ridiculous so I think the only thing Joe was wrong about was the way he treated Mal and mal was probably just like yo let's all get together the white boy has feelings I don't want to mess up what we got going on it's really not that hard but Rory is definitely an executive Cornwall it's not about what your boss gets it's about what you bring to your bosses workplace now if the podcast was called the three amigos or something stupid then they should all have a piece of pie but Joe is not a dummy he's getting the biggest piece because he is the biggest showman and they let it happen so stop whining and do your job.
@@bmike633 its not even that. Joe put up the capital to talk that talk. And what he said to mal was that exact point. It isnt none of your business contractually. Joe would take the fall if the pod failed. So Mal tryna govern his decisions is dumb asf whenever it comes to something personal between the two and he didnt help resolve that.
Look at Mal this episode, he is beyond done with Joe.
SO WHAT!! 😂😂😂
@@jacorihinton6989 so we goin to new wowy and mal
@@chimschig366 and jbp looks like it’s leaving RUclips so it looks like its time
@@chimschig366 👋🏾 so this mean y’all wouldn’t waste your important time commenting on videos of his anymore correct?
@@juniortim33 i got time aint no thing.
I got back into listening to the old episodes of this podcast after 2 years of neither listening to either Joes or Rory and Mals podcasts a month ago, the 2017 to 2020 run era of the JPB is still untouchable, this shit made me sad all over again.
yep fr
Facts, Bro‼️ Every other week, I go back and listen to the old pods. 🥲 2018 - 2020 imo was the Golden era for me. Episode 164 "Outstanding" is the episode that stamped it for me.
In 435 episodes, this is the quietest Joe has ever been for a whole 30 minutes and in that 30 minutes, he did not hear shit they said.
Facts..he ain’t listen to shit. Nor did he care about their feelings
😂
Not a gah damn thing!!
Facts!!😂😂
Not SHIT lmao
All this episode taught me was that Mal values "respect," Rory now sees Joe as only an associate, and Joe refuses to admit what he did wrong.
Sounds about right. I think joe always looked at it like it was his show especially when he changed the name lol. They probably can back because of contracts they signed 🤷🏽♂️. Inside they probably say Fuck this show and joe lol
Joe did nothing wrong Rory got beside himself and now soaking up the reality
@@ringbellz1062 gonna be interesting to see when those contracts are up.
Yep narcissist Joe
@@solocreep9013 no he didn’t joe beside his mf self and everybody see it even ice and ish said he changed
The ENTIRE time at the beginning of this pod when Mal is talking he is referring to Joe’s character as a person💪🏽 Talk yo ISH Mal🙏🏽
That’s why he had to go , you either ok with everything and we back to work or you can leave 🤷🏽♂️
@@melmedia1499 I had to WAIT to reply to you..... boy what a difference TIME makes.... NUMBERS DONT LIE💅🏽💋
@@melmedia1499 leave and get the 💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰💰
@@mztiffanybad this ain’t the flex you thought it’d be 🌚
@@andrewwright5408 it really was though 👀😆
Yo Joe is crazy yo 🤣 this nigga will let you pour out all your feelings n then be like I hate to burst your bubble 😒 lml
Joe is using kid gloves. He is way worse with people he doesn't know.
bro when he said.. "nah i understand because im listening... and all i hear is feelings" my heart dropped and i died bruhhh lmfao
Lol Joe was trying so hard to refrain from saying “this my shit! Y’all just work here” 😂😂
Facts
AK been telling these niggas for months they employees, and they acting surprised that Joe acting like he they boss 😂
I said the exact same thing!
Lmaoooo dead ass
@No Reason At All If I was Parks, I'd be like "I run shit hea, y'all just pod hea. "
Joe wanting loyalty from Mal but saying he doesn’t owe his friends anything is such a Joe thing to do. Smh lol
But he said he gives respect freely. But doesn't owe respect.
@@SKY-fu1vw what did he mean by that
@@SKY-fu1vw yeah that really confused me how does he think friends aren't owed a different level of respect than strangers damn
YES!!! Joe trying to be right but loud and wrong as hell
Joe is so nuts 😂
Joe thought Mal was like Parks, no integrity and no loyalty. Mal is respectable, loyal, and a true friend. He knew Joe was wrong for what he was trying to do with Rory. Instead of being fake, money hungry, he chose to be a real friend. Seeing this after everything has transpired is so revealing.
Ma why are you here commenting instead of being on Rory and Mal RUclips channel? Shoutout to the guys though
@@juniortim33 thats a very stupid question with an obvious answer
@@majmunko23 you are right
Idk why i randomly came back to this but i did lol
Facts, Bro‼️ Every other week, I go back and listen to the old pods. 🥲 2018 - 2020 imo was the Golden era for me. Episode 164 "Outstanding" is the episode that stamped it for me.
@@roro_92yfr, the pinnacle of podcasts, this shit used to make me lmao. Can’t believe how they went out
Lol wait... Joe is saying that Mal owes him loyalty over Rory, but he doesnt owe Mal respect?
Joe a gaslighter. He got a PhD in gaslighting
Joe is a sociopath . The stupid kind.
Make it make sense lord🙄
I think what he was trying to say is him and mal were friends before they even knew rory so he feels like he shouldn't have been on Joe's side over rory cause the were friends longer
@@chrisfetter8617 Even though he doesn't respect Mal?
I remember when Pusha T looked Mal in the face and said "YOU CAN"T MAKE PEOPLE BE BUILT LIKE YOU"... Mal learned that lesson first hand in this nonsense. He OVERSTANDS now.
Facts!!
Mal left cause Joe hurt his feelings, then he unfollowed him. I know mad niggas built like that.
Definitely remember that
Joe deep down looks at it like I’m the creator and owner of the show yes they add to the show but they don’t define the existence or survival of the show they enhance but it is what it is and that’s a Business this is why the old golden rule is don’t mix Business with friendship it very rarely works out and clearly you can see how easily the lines got crossed for people get confused as to what the role is Especially when ego is involved glad that are you man enough to try and work it all out💯
Mal litterally unfollowed his "day one" after letting Rory threaten him to his face multiple times. Sounds like butt hurt to me.
What happened to all that “Fuck the Suits!” talk Joe was preaching all these years!? Just for him to turn around & treat his “fam” like the Music Industry treated himself. Joe legit turned into the same thing he hates.
He slipped right into a suit lmao. Piece by piece.
He was saying that because he wasn't getting $$$ and the suits was f*cking him over. NOW, he's a suit. And said if you can't beat them, join them.
Mal no laughing dead serious and they still don’t get it
Joe Has An Amazing Ability To Act Like He Don’t Understand People When They Right...
He be podding.
Virgo
I stg he has a problem and that’s sad smh
Lol dawg!!!!
Because he always wanna be right. His ego is way crazy
The beef is really Joe and Mal. Mal stands on integrity and Joe wanna dance around it and not see his wrong doings. Joe was pissed when Mal stood with Rory.
Mal feel a new way about Joe
@@kmir1791 I agree 100%. Mal stands on old school morals. Joe talking from a man who got the bag now and lost his morals.
Yeah Joe was definitely trippin. I'm tripping that he said his friends and people in the street get the same respect. That made me feel some type of way lol!
Mal was friends with Joe for years. They lived together at one time. He using the rory situation to act like he so loyal. His loyalty should be with joe especially since they were supposed to be real friends. Mal just showing his jealousy of Joes success. They got to realize in the end its the JOE BUDDEN PODCAST. They are not equal in the business.
@@LeoLady7266 you go with who is right, if you would ride with your friend over another friend when you know hes wrong just because you knew him longer your morals and character is seriously questionable
The fact that Joe took Swizz’s message personal speaks to the fact that he understands he isn’t showing genuine love to his “friends” while “they’re still here”......
Time stamp ?
I watched this three times and couldn't find Park's backbone anywhere.
Parks wasn't in the studio with Rory and Mal for years and years. He was there with Joe. Joe is the money maker. Not these 2.
@@gordonshumway6128if BUDDEN was the prize he wouldn't have had other mics on with him there is people who can talk by their self who pull numbers joe don't pull numbers with Joe alone
@@GANGHOONYTthere’s only one person who talks by himself let’s stop the cap & that guy is in his own league
Joes narcissism has never been more apparent. It’s crazy how dead wrong he be and either try to justify it or spin the narrative
Fr, and almost had me siding with him 🤣
How was he wrong?
I don’t see how joe is wrong tho for real 🤷🏽
@@jaytayGO Joe isn't wrong and people (like Mal) fail to understand he is a boss...
@@OwlCapone8630 that’s facts people like mal don’t understand even though joe and him are and we’re friends before this.. Joe is also his boss now wether he likes it or not
Imma at least give them a round of applause for sitting down like men and having an actual conversation, no matter how awkward it was 🤷🏾♀️
Joe didn't understand a word of this "conversation". But I guess Rory and Mal are just operating on a different level of loyalty and friendship.
@@ObiVEVO facts
Unfortunately I think you’re right. he just wanted them to vent I didn’t see a lot of listening on his end.
@@ObiVEVO I don’t get it. Joe is running a business. What’s all this friendship thing?
@@Yalenga10 u ain't lyin
"i dont owe my friends respect"-joe budden , pretty much sums all of this up in one sentence
That's a wild statement 🤣 you have to be a "desperate fake boss" type of individual. Or a real piece of shit to believe this
He said he don't own them any more than a stranger. Respect is a gift not a debt owed.
I swear
Nah I agree I grant everyone respect until I’m disrespected no one on this planet is OWED respect that’s something you give or you don’t not one person is owed it
Who with a sane mind says that? Makes me question his upbringing and how his parents raised him. You owe the janitor or a homeless person respect unless they disrespect you first. Joe is a horrible human being.
I guess the recent news brought us all back to this episode...it was fun while it lasted but the only constant thing in life is change
U realize an argument could be made that your using semantics with sensitive and emotional. Yet I’m not gonna sit here and act like I don’t get what your putting out there.
@@JaeDee66 ngl...Idk wtf you're talking about
@@fawcue5844 semantics meaning: two words describing the same thing. However I still understand what your saying. please tell me you and three people aren’t this slow?
Think he’s essentially saying “if change is constant then nothing last forever. Everything comes to an end so everything is fun for however long it’s happening, until change comes.
Think he’s essentially saying “if change is constant then nothing last forever. Everything comes to an end so everything is fun for however long it’s happening, until change comes.
I feel like Joe head is in *“I’m the boss and I just so happen to be friends with my employees.”*
While Mal and Rory feel like *“we just so happened to be having fun w/friends and it turned into a job.”*
The lines can definitely get blurred with friendship and business the only thing mal did wrong was not pulling up in a timely manner leaving joe no option but to make replacements. Joe ain’t stupid he knows exactly what mal and Rory gripe is but joe being the asshole he is don’t want to apologize without justifying his actions he already made his mind up about Rory
Facts
Agreed, but I agree with Joe. Ain’t none of us can leave our job and still have it after 6 weeks.
@@stevenbritton6288 Don't let Joe of the hook with that dumbass comparison. These dudes don't have a normal job. Same thing with Kyrie on the Nets. Bro took days off and nobody could even get in contact with him. And he was welcome back with open arms lol
they don't have a regular job lol
Perfectly put
I just know Ice got a bunch of outfits in his closet he was hoping to get off at least one time....
Lol😂😂😂
🤣💀
😂😂😂
I legit laughed out loud bro
Pin this comment 😂😂😂😂
YES, YOU ARE ENTITLED!!! To give PEOPLE YOU CALL “FRIEND” RESPECT!!!!
The fact that Mal chose to ride with Rory tells me everything I need to know .
That he flaky as hell or dumb af
He's a real one that won't put his morals on the back burner because he knows someone
That he has.....integrity?
@@PopularNobody he has morals but will sit here and lie to us and say it's not about money. Now he tryna sue?
Joe is that you?
"theres an audience that you left" YOU TOLD HIM TO LEAVE, Joe really aint shit 😂
💯. Pride comes before the fall
Some counseling is needed
THISSS AF
😂😂😂
He didn’t tell him to leave permanently. If your co worker is trying to fight you every week on the show, hell yeah take a few off and get your head right. It’s a business others have to eat, it all can’t stop because of you bugging. Take a break and come back. I don’t see the issue with that part. Joe was tripping when he was talking about respecting his friends.
Joe said he doesn't owe his friends respect but he's telling Mal he owes him loyalty. Wild.
That's the dumbest shit I ever heard in my entire life. Joe was never the brightest though. S/O Lil B.
Nobody fn knew Mal before JOES PODCAST.. Mal too fn sensitive shht is annoying hopefully he don't come back
Id have to agree with Joe. Respect and Loyalty are two different things.
@@bluv4579 what does that even mean. More fame dosent always mean more money in the entertainment industry. You think Mal was living in a cold trap house doing hand to hands before the pod?
joe says plenty dumb shit but thats on the list tho
I couldn't rock with Joe... he like a loud step dad who tell you not to talk back when he asks you a question 😂
@MexicAmeRogue. calm down man I didn't mean literally I'm saying he has those manerisms get off Joe dick
Damn man rewatching this breaks my heart all over again 💔😣
Rewatching rn so crazy how fast that all went by. Every time they try to fake laugh in the beginning, that niggah mal is not wit it
Same fr, it hurts honestly
I can take you out and make ya feel better ma
@@Shallowwam you making yourself look like a clown bro
@@jahanbaxter it worked though
Joe: Don't come in to pod BECAUSE I'm telling you to.
Also Joe: You abandoned the pod BECAUSE you wanted to.
Rory:🤨
Mal:🗣RESPECT & TRANSPARENCY‼️
Parks:🦵🏻
The accuracy 💯‼️
Joe is seriously bipolar I don’t even know if he can help it 😩
THIS IS THE ONE!
😂😂😂😂
This is what Savon should’ve put for time stamps 🤣🤣🤣
Crazy that Mal of all people is the one who has the most emotional intelligence and the one that values the friendship the most. Joe is a genuine narcissist.
@@adriananderson3979 you don’t read well huh
@@adriananderson3979 they said genuine* lol
@@adriananderson3979 "Genuine" isn't related to "genius"
Right. Joe can’t even acknowledge how his “friends” feel the way they feel. He’s a terrible friend
From the friendship aspect Mal is right.
This isnt about that. This is business.. I been where they are at.. I got cut out of something I helped build.. They were right to cut me out....
Joe was right to cut them out and keep it moving.
I’ve noticed that Joe says “so what!” A lot after everything went down. That whole Jay-z situation really got to Joe in a ptsd way.
He’s overreacting Ts hapoened years ago and mal and Rory didn’t even do nothing wrong he literally said that they had fun and were laughing had a convo. Then he wanted an apology just because jay z did a remix of pump it up years ago and they laughed when he said so what😂😂 like wtf Ts is funny is not even disrespectful it’s literally not even a problem joe looks for problems always and then he brings it up now lool didn’t even tell em behind the scenes years ago
I f*ck with Mal sooo heavy after this episode, he stood solid on his principles. That is what real is. I'll start listening to this pod again.
MAL is a BOZO
That moment Joe had with Hov was the scene in the movie where the innocent little kid becomes a supervillain. Bro will never forget it😂😂
the kid from the incredibles lol
And his guys bogus for laughing
Joe really just wanted to tell that story cause that shit aint even had no correlation😭😭😭
@@reggiericardo8919 THANK YOU 😭
@@reggiericardo8919 it was layered
They didn’t abandon the show JOE told rory to sit out for a while. Mal is the only one who actually left the pod on his own accord. Joe painting the narrative they left is psycho
I feel like if i have a show with my name on it and all, and i invite you to join me and you spend prolonged amounts of time on said show, saying you want to whoop my ass and im to pussy to fight you.... You left.
@@mixtapeweezy6871 'I feel' is irrelevant. The FACT is that Joe told Rory to take time off
Exactly. Mal a libra. They're fake af! Peep how he's trying to say "We built this together,"? No nigga this Joe shit.
@@michael43567 right but its also a fact in any workplace that if you threaten to fight you boss, or even coworker, you're making decisions that will lead to you leaving. Sure, at the end of the day, you may have been fired. But you knew (or should have known) that what your actions are what lead to that. In a sense, you chose to leave. You chose to be fired. Im glad they are back, but nobody is above personal responsibility or accountability. But that's just my take.
@@mixtapeweezy6871 that comment rory said had nothing to do with Joe's bullshit in this situation
Man every time I watch this ALL I can think about is how Joe treating them like the HELP..
They ARE the help. They add NOTHING but presence.
They really are the help tho lol. After I watched ish and ice, I realized these guys were definitely overpaid. The fact that they questioning payment and not realizing they work for joe because they “boys” is wild like bruh they left for 6 weeks??? How can you think this is your podcast when you left because of your feelings for 6 weeks lol
@@bryantsmith9176 u sir perhaps didn’t see the rebuttal. They were forced.. do your research good brother
@@mztiffanybad I saw the rebuttal but your not getting joes point this is his life if they felt the same they wouldn’t have never left they would’ve showed up regardless. Mal said we should’ve shut everything down? Like they ain’t other people eating off this lol They got in they’re feelings and are entitled lol for 2 dudes that just sit And talk.
@@bryantsmith9176 tomato’s tomato’s.... and the way he fired them on air and tried to defame their character... AND threatens them to not go and start their own... yeah OK... you drink sour milk then💅🏽
I came back for the vibes. Gonna miss this trio of gents. No need to rock with who's right or wrong because 99% of us listeners don't know the true reasons, only what's seen and heard.
What you mean? Listen to their own words!
Akademiks warned those fools and they blew it just because they hated the title of being an employee. Now they not employees. Those fools played themselves.
@@harrybobarryyou’re the 99% of listeners , not the 1%
This proves Mal is the only person on this Pod with self respect and not a kiss ass. This made me respect him so much more.
funny cause people used to love calling Mal AND Rory a bunch of Joe yes-men back in the day lol
Nah they were all wrong but rory and mall were pussy for leaving. They should have squared up or just argued until they worked it out. This should have been resolved in 1 week
ITS BUSINESS... that’s why u don’t do BIG BUSINESS with friends... u can’t expect a man to stop how he eat and put food on the table for his family to just hault production for PERSONAL issues
nah. joe just went overboard and really dissed mal in that backyard convo. that`s why he left. joe admited that he shouldnt have said what he said. nobody is a kiss ass. sometimes in fights , you go extra hard on the people you know the most ,thinking that they can take it because of your history.
You wouldn’t expect that from someone that’s not your friend. They record 2-3 times a week, it’s ample time resolve shit but when u dealing with business issues become In reconcilable when friends are involved, due to the personal emotional attachment that not even business related... shudnt have told him it’s non of his business, but niggas still got to eat period
Joe saying rory abandoned an audience, and trying to make him feel guilty, while joe told him to take time off is fucking wildddd!! And he was trynna make rory agree wtf!!!!
I was thinking the same thing lol None of this would’ve happened if he wouldn’t have told Rory to take a break from the pod.
😂
Rory shouldnt have agreed to take time off and he should jave said nah fuck that we have a show to do. Joe was testing them and they let Joe down by actually leaving
@@danielcamacho4166 thats some psycho shit if true
@@danielcamacho4166 exactly!!! I didn’t feel like typing that but thank you 😂. Not to sound sexist but it’s basically what females do when they testing you. They mainly want to see how you respond.
Joe: * peeing on parks head *
Parks: You’re pissing on me Joe
Joe: no I’m not, it’s raining.
Parks: you’re right. Bad weather.
FAAACTS but the fact it got WAY worse afta Mal and Rory left is pathetic
@@kingmez1781 🧢 if you feel that way why you on a old joe budden episode when you can be on episode 10 or 11 of Rory and Mal
LMFAO
@@juniortim33 you meat gobbling everyone who leaves a bad review
"If you wanna know who your friends are you gotta put a bunch of money on the table"
Like a Joker line
Just like something joker would say. Lol
Money, alcohol, and dangerous situations are the best ways to find out who someone is at the character-level
Nice! The Heath Ledger joker would definitely say sumn like that lol 😂😭
@@transcendentmuzic1398 I don't trust ppl that don't drink alcohol but want to go out and be around ppl who do. What is their angle?
Mal was spiiiiittiiiiiinnnn, this is the most real and open he's been on the podcast, I kind of understand why he acts the way he does now.
He's been holding back while shit was going on behind the scenes
I see Mal on everything he said and I clearly see how he moves and what loyalty means to him. I respect it
If Mal cared so much about the podcast, he would've stepped up and said something a while ago. Even Rory said all of the tension wasn't good for the show. Mal keeps talking about principles but principles have to be applied to facts and dealt with as such. F Mal
@@realityshowbinger3153 its friendship first then business especially if the business is ran on friendship
@@realityshowbinger3153 bro you must be 12
Joe really wild! He really tried to compare Hov killing him on his own beat and not apologizing to him disrespecting Mal and Rory and not needing to apologize. Joe IS the nasty award 🥇
Yeah, that wasn’t a good example he used 😹
Joe is a fucking criminal for that lol
He is stupid
Fam I glad you caught. There was ZERO correlation
yep, bad analogy. but he meant that mal should have brushed off the disrespectful things that he said. or at least , come to work,not go on strike and almost destroy the pod
Joe didn’t take this seriously enough. And wasn’t hearin everything foreal.
I would love to see a psychological case-study on the group of people here who have listened to Joe through this episode and feel he wasn't in violation in several ways. The support for him is actually intriguing. I need to know more about these people.
You’re just slow
it's cuz there are narcissists and mentally ill and clout chasers in this world, not saying those are joe budden fans exlusively but people who think he was in the right in this issue, these are the malicious, scammers, narcissists of the world you don't want to run in with IRL. It's not like joe and his personality disorders is unique and not a certain template of a type of person, and you bet alot are successful if we're looking at money as a measure, but then they have multiple baby momas and broken families, so success and happiness is subjective. I digress lol
Joe had 2 moments that completely nullified their entire stance. When he explained that their views on how things should be prioritized in regards to it being a job and mending friendships (to them) vs his life's work 41:20-44:00.
The nail in the coffin was his poetic justice remark at 1:04:00. It put the entirety of the scenario into context and showed the contradictory nature of their actions in general.
@@santiagojones5848 rury and mall's point was that they felt there was no transparency. they were allegedly asking Joe for accounting and a xl sheet emailed from his manager wasn't going to be acceptable to them. also with the alleged errors with in the xl spread sheet was a problem for them too. why hasn't Joe ever addressed any of those parts of the disagreement ?
The only people who think joe is right are his core fanbase,fellow narcissists and dinner with jay z posse who think they know everything about business
Mal seems fired up for sure. The man is a good friend. The fact that he is standing up for Rory and checking Joe, it shows the morals he lives by.
Same thing my parents taught me. Right is right, wrong is wrong; No matter who it is or the situation.
Well said
Facts. And that’s why you stand for something, because the exact same thing can happen to you
Also shows that he didn't think about the other people working behind the scenes on the pod that get fed off that. I get where he coming from but you can't want people to not eat while you fixing some issues with your man's off what you perceived as the respects thing to do is. Now I get the standing with Rory but the part where Mal is saying cut the show til we back out of respect is the wrong way to go about it. That's the instance you put your own feelings aside and consider all the other people that this pod takes care of financially. That's the only gripe I have with Mal take
yeah joe dont get it.. he was serious..
Real friends tell you when you are wrong. Respect to Mal.
Yes
@PINKYRINGMONSTER -3 because they're having an awkward conversation on camera. You wouldn't understand unless you've done it
It would be nice if Joe was wrong. I understand now that all employees think the same. If they would realize they don’t own shit, things would be in the proper place.
Joe is shady AF and time after time this is proven. Beta males and those who lack character like Joe are the only ones who don't see it. Mad respect for Mal. Another REAL person like Crook who finally got tired of Joe's BS. Good on him.
He’s not wrong tho look at joes views and look at there views now ……it’s joes podcast at the end of the day !…..i\all the best luck to map and Rory but they got to hungry respectfully
Bruh you can feel the tension in the room from the damn screen. 😂💯
Cut with a butter knife
The amount of times Mal said “respect” in this episode is so important. And I don’t think Joe heard it one time. If someone don’t value respect, it ain’t finna work. As you can see.
He also said transparency a lot too...meaning he wanted to know details about deals Joe was making and how much money the pod was bringing cuz he felt he wasn't getting enough even tho he said he don't care about money
@@fawcue5844 exactly so he flake
@@fawcue5844 nd he had a minimal contribution
@@fawcue5844 or he just simply wanted a break down of his pay? Like any normal working person?
It’s crazy how Joe saying Rory and Mal abandoned the pod, when this all started because he told Rory not to come in.
He told rory take a break and he threw a bitch fit, he dragged mal with him and now his dumbass is back like good little employee
@@mattreyes4803 all these people on mal and rory dick wouldn't watch the Mal & Rory podcast
@@eddydeathwishe4638 naw y’all akadimiks fans just running with his narratives like the mixy boys ain’t help build this thing.
@@mattreyes4803 yea of course we don’t know how the conversation went, but I’ve had people under me take a break due to stress, never as an insult, and that’s how I felt joe was coming from
@@eddydeathwishe4638 🤣🤣🤣🤣 HELL NAH
Key takeaways: Mal is a real one and doesn't tolerate disrespect
Rory asks simple questions that results in Joe dancing around and not answering
Joe has a HUGE ego and loves to switch his values when it makes him right... (nothing new)
Nothing real about Mal. That’s joes real boy. Rory is business. We ride on that wrong and work for Rory on the sidelines. We discuss our problems and pod our ass of till we are really well off. I was taught to fight on the lie and we address that shit when we get home.
That’s a word!
@@eliflihi 🎯
Facts
@@eliflihi You was taught wrong then my boy. Mal had a disagreement with Joe and didn't like how he was moving. I don't know who taught yall that loyalty means standing by silently as niggas go against your morals and disrespect you.
Anybody else come back here ? 👀
Mal was like “We ain’t talking bout the game, we talking bout practice” 😂😂 But forreal, respect is everything🙌🏾
Not not not the Game😂
Mal trash never gave nothing to the show..ill listen to what Rory have to say before Mal...dude sat in the chair wanting to play" fashion guy/too cool for school " all podcast never wanted to give a real take kick rocks ✌🏾 ...cmon back in ish and ice lol
I was thinking the same thing. Lol. Is there respect? 😆
@@rashodpeoples5828 I agree 100% he be looking like his mommy dressed him looking like a stuffed 🧸
Yo let's say you are a single mother of 2 who holds things down can you pay the bills with respect its about how you move so the disrespect doesn't happen don't mix friendship and business period ITS THE JOE B POD AND HE'S A D!CKHEAD SO MAKE THE AJUSTMENT THEY WALKED OUT OF A PODCAST I work in Construction for 20 years I would love to sit there and talk shit and make good money its all about the approach and knowing who you dealing with
Joe: Take some pods off
Also Joe: You can’t just leave the pod
Exactly i see why joe got sock on back in the day
Tbf he just wanted rory to take the pods off..
No other statements meant anything else besides what you wrote. Joe told him not to come in period. Only point joe had was Mal didn’t show or talk to him when he tried to talk to him about the issues
@@SquintyTV yeah but he can’t be mad, that Rory and mal “abandoned” the show, cause he told them to do just that
Right. Talking about "y'all left" and "we had to scramble". You asked Rory to take time off. He left because of you. Joe is my man, but he's full of shit. He loves to twist shit into his favor.
Joe's narcissism was on 10 today. Respect to Mal for keeping it 100.
Joe pissed me off
No part of Joe is Loyal, like Mal said fK the money he can’t be friends or work with anyone that does not respect him. PERIODT.
@Stevie Mims Lol if you don’t respect me I don’t want any bag with you respectfully. That money isn’t worth the disrespect, that’s going against your morals aka selling out.
Reacting to your own text message is top tier narcissism 😂😂😂
Like what 😭
As someone in the real estate industry, i can relate heavily to what Mal says. and he's obviously talking directly to people like Parks
The fact Joe was baffled at the whole "owe friends respect" topic says it all... More problems will arise unfortunately..
Respect is earned not owed, and respect is something you choose to give based on a persons actions and merits. It’s not owed to anyone, i felt Joe on that he doesn’t owe them shit
@@KJBreezy21 oh please. They’ve been there through it all, and helped build this podcast. They earned respect.
@@craymay4766 They should’ve said that then not owe lol
@@KJBreezy21 "respect is earned not owed" that has to be a joke. Those two has earned far more than respect.
Then I guess they aren't friends.
Joe talkin like Denzel in training day: "you think you can do this to me? I run shit here, you just live here" lmao
I imagine Joe saying this and Parks says “you’re right I do live here!” Lol
*Energy.
😂😂😂😂😂
As fucked up as it is, it’s kinda true while they were both gone Joe had one of the biggest interviews this year(Kevin Samuels) already over a million views and did it with two replacements. I think that brought things in perspective for Rory and Mal that Joe really could move on without them, but it’s fucked up because shouldn’t since they been down. It’s still crazy because they missed that interview and it will go down as a classic and they weren’t in it smh.
💀💀💀💀
I always come back to this every couple of months. A lot of 💎’s dropped
Damn Parks kinda lame
Joe is sensitive and emotional. Rory is emotional but not sensitive. Mal is sensitive but not emotional.
Powerful
Super fact
I like this observation, but how do you define sensitivity
You got it
LOL maybe THAT's why the show works
Mal asks Joe to look at the situation as friends but Joe replies with ‘you are contracted’. However, when he needs to pull on it he expects Mal to consider their 20 year friendship.
Bruh was thinking the samething .. he referred to the 20 year deep relationshipwith mal then doesnt hold that point when it goes against him . Hypocrisy at its finest
Same dude upset Rory told him they weren’t friends and wanted to scrap 😂😂😂
Narcissism 101
If Im looking at it as friends you should know my dedication to the pod and suck it up and we in contract
@@PrettyRadRamo and then says in a text to Rory "hey man take the next few pods off" like that just SOUNDS like a work suspension lol
Rory tried to keep his job, Mal was like fire me bro, wit his hands up🙆🏿♂️
Joe Budden’s worst enemy is Joe Budden
the composure these dudes are able to keep in the face of such gaslighting is admirable.
Facts. Soon as I saw the boys back, I knew de-nial river would be flowing smh.
You know what you get when you go against the gaslight king.
@@Demsky83 now That should be a t-shirt
Facts!
Lol, good self awareness bruh
Joe saying he doesn't think he owes his friends respeck, is very telling about him as a person
I scrolled for this
I agree...
joe & especially parks treating this like business lol
mal + rory were right tho
Friends Get Disrespectful Sometimes🤷🏽♂️
Facts
honestly I’ll miss Rory’s sleepers the most, he put me on to a lot of good songs lol
1:22:15 joe forgets his train of thought and Rory recaps for him easily. On Joe’s first episode without them , he asked parks and parks couldn’t recall anything he said . They all had their roles and Rory played his well.
good point
💯💯💯
Then he should have played his position.
How hard you think Ish would’ve punched Joe if he said he didn’t owe him respect for being his friend
Lmaoooo this is hilarious, I can tell Ish will definitely punch him dead in his shit 🤣 I think Joe know that too.
Facts , ish would have forsure got heated , Joe wouldn’t say something like that to him. But I don’t understand why joe would say something like that to Rory and Mal though . And I don’t like how Parks didn’t speak up when Joe said that wild shit .
👊🏾🤜🏾🤛🏿
@@rickypeterson740 he don't respect them..respect was lost somewhere along the way
Sometimes when you get close to someone it's easy to feel less respect toward them. Not saying it's right, but when you know someone in and out you feel different toward them because you are so familiar with who they are and all of their faults. You might not always agree with them or how theyre acting and the respect level changes while you evaluate the situation, but it doesn't go away.. At the end of the day respect is extremely important to a good friend or relationship. Just saying sometimes it happens between close people and it needs to be worked out. When you are invested in a person, a problem that seems small to an outsider can be a really big deal to the people involved. Think about if your parents fuck up or do something you don't like. You're gonna feel it a lot more than if a stranger fucks up
Edit: OK I just got to where Joe said he doesn't owe friends respect, that's weird. you gotta give your homies respect always
Parks is MASTER level at dodging questions directed at him LOL
Parks is a Mediator
Im starting to dislike parks now .. was real vocal when they wernt here and all he doing its Driding joe like cmon anyone knows that its joe who not moving right on this one
Y’all tripping
Parks was in the toughest spot out of all of this
They record at his crib
@@Nextdoorovo how ? Right is right and wrong is wrong. Joe is wrong and Parks should let him know at least from a business standpoint
My dog got that ultra instinct in this shit 😂😂
Mal was repeating himself over and over and the word Respect was said abouy 50 times
35:00 Joe deep down inside was mad that Rory & Mal laughed at JayZ " So what"line..it was then that Joe wanted revenge on em 🤣 🤣 🤣
That’s what I said the day this came out!!! The fact that nobody brings that up is crazy too me. Jay Z literally the reason behind this .