Yes, I think I have to say it is helping. We went out for another session today and I will post the video from today as soon as I get it stitched together and let you watch and see what you think. Please let us know if you see some progress, that would be encouraging to him if you do see some improvement!
Should wear a helmet. One issue is looking down instead of straight ahead. Looking straight ahead will provide a better sense of balance. Another issue, probably related to looking down is over-reacting by tilting the EUC too much. As speed increases, balance corrections (tilt) become smaller and are not needed as often. At 1:05 into the video, the speed appears to be enough (7 or 8 mph) that the EUC should be self-stable | self-balancing and a rider can essentially stand still while riding in a straight line. Some of this is a trust issue. In my case, I was able to balance my V8F at lower speeds by twisting it (flail arms left to twist EUC right and vice versa), similar to riding a bicycle at slow speed where constant balance corrections are needed, but learning to balance at slow speed by twisting can be saved for later. I moved to a long outdoor parking lot where I could ride at 8 to 10 mph in a straight line for 40+ seconds at a time, and at 8 mph, I no longer had to make any balance corrections, I lowered and relaxed my arms, and as mentioned before I was essentially standing still. I realized that nothing had "clicked", but instead I was just going fast enough for my V8F to become stable, also similar to riding a bicycle at sufficient speed makes it possible to ride without hands on the handlebars. Once I was riding at stable speeds, I learned to steer by tilting my V8F: small tilts, then doing a weave pattern for a few runs, and finally large radius turns, with some mid-turn corrections. Over time, my turning improved as I learned to coordinate how much to lean for balance, and how much to tilt to steer depending on speed and turning radius.
You are spot on in everything you say. I have been trying to get him to carry a little more speed and to look straight ahead and he is making some progress. We wanted to work on making a slower semi-controlled stops and dismounts. Once we get a little more control of stopping, we will move to a football field with a running track which is what I myself used to start making broad turns and longer continuous runs and that's where it all clicked for me! Unfortunately, what we don't see here in this video is some of his real good runs that didn't get captured because the camera battery died! Thanks for chiming in!!
@@wntofly - you can contact me if you want (see my channel details). Forgot to mention I'm an old guy 72 years old. I started with a V8F back in August 2021, now have an 18XL V2. At around 1:50 into your video, he's making the least amount of movements, and appears to have been going fast enough that he probably didn't need to make any movements and just trust the EUC to self-balance. By looking straight ahead, he should be able to detect smaller amounts of being out of balance, resulting in quicker and smaller reactions. If the running track is not pavement, a long (and nearly empty) outdoor parking lot might be better.
I learned on a V-11, it took a few falls and I would only do 10-15 minutes at it each day until I could get it.
It's so nice to see you guys help each other!! keep at it !! 👍👍👍
Thank you!
Did learning on the E20 actually help? This looks like starting from scratch. Keep us posted on how you guys are doing please!
Yes, I think I have to say it is helping. We went out for another session today and I will post the video from today as soon as I get it stitched together and let you watch and see what you think. Please let us know if you see some progress, that would be encouraging to him if you do see some improvement!
Should wear a helmet. One issue is looking down instead of straight ahead. Looking straight ahead will provide a better sense of balance. Another issue, probably related to looking down is over-reacting by tilting the EUC too much. As speed increases, balance corrections (tilt) become smaller and are not needed as often. At 1:05 into the video, the speed appears to be enough (7 or 8 mph) that the EUC should be self-stable | self-balancing and a rider can essentially stand still while riding in a straight line. Some of this is a trust issue. In my case, I was able to balance my V8F at lower speeds by twisting it (flail arms left to twist EUC right and vice versa), similar to riding a bicycle at slow speed where constant balance corrections are needed, but learning to balance at slow speed by twisting can be saved for later. I moved to a long outdoor parking lot where I could ride at 8 to 10 mph in a straight line for 40+ seconds at a time, and at 8 mph, I no longer had to make any balance corrections, I lowered and relaxed my arms, and as mentioned before I was essentially standing still. I realized that nothing had "clicked", but instead I was just going fast enough for my V8F to become stable, also similar to riding a bicycle at sufficient speed makes it possible to ride without hands on the handlebars. Once I was riding at stable speeds, I learned to steer by tilting my V8F: small tilts, then doing a weave pattern for a few runs, and finally large radius turns, with some mid-turn corrections. Over time, my turning improved as I learned to coordinate how much to lean for balance, and how much to tilt to steer depending on speed and turning radius.
You are spot on in everything you say. I have been trying to get him to carry a little more speed and to look straight ahead and he is making some progress. We wanted to work on making a slower semi-controlled stops and dismounts. Once we get a little more control of stopping, we will move to a football field with a running track which is what I myself used to start making broad turns and longer continuous runs and that's where it all clicked for me! Unfortunately, what we don't see here in this video is some of his real good runs that didn't get captured because the camera battery died! Thanks for chiming in!!
@@wntofly - you can contact me if you want (see my channel details). Forgot to mention I'm an old guy 72 years old. I started with a V8F back in August 2021, now have an 18XL V2. At around 1:50 into your video, he's making the least amount of movements, and appears to have been going fast enough that he probably didn't need to make any movements and just trust the EUC to self-balance. By looking straight ahead, he should be able to detect smaller amounts of being out of balance, resulting in quicker and smaller reactions. If the running track is not pavement, a long (and nearly empty) outdoor parking lot might be better.
this dude should be practicing on grass- hes gonna injure himself