Don't pop straight down, pop the board a bit back, which alows it to roll back a bit so your front knee stays in front of your board and makes leveling out the board more easy. But you got it dude, four wheels of the ground is considered an Ollie. Keep shredding.
3 месяца назад
Thanks! I have actually tried popping the board a bit back, but it didn't really help. I think I need to fix something more fundamental. Also, some people say that it's important to pop straight down, so I don't know what to think any longer :-D
When you pop the board goes a little to the front, so you have to swing your hip to try to level it out and you land a bit turned. When you pop a bit back the board will be a little bit behind you and the nose will be right under you. Also when you jump your front knee should be out a bit more out and your foot should be under you, kinda in the middle of your body. Little recap, jump up front knee a bit out and foot right under you, pop the board to the back, the nose will touch your front foot and you straighten out your leg and the board will follow and level out. The board needs to make a circular motion. If you look at a Ollie in slow motion the board rolls a bit backwards while popping. Hope my gibberish made sense. Just start with some lazy ollie's, I mean super rocket Ollie's just lifting your front foot and barely lifting your back foot, just concentrate on keeping the board under you, and go from there.
From the side views it looks like the nose follows your hips. When you crouch down your hips are off to the heelside. When you land, the you pull the nose back to the heelside (like the other commenter mentioned) so your hips are directly over the board. So when you crouch, try keeping your hips more over the board and chest facing forward. When you land try landing with your hips more to the heelside.
3 месяца назад
Hips more over the board when crouching. I think that will be hard using my current posture / crouch. But I've seen that many great skaters actually turn their whole body frontside when they are crouching. That way I guess the hips can be more straight over the board. Is that something I should try?
I think he is right. You lean heelside. Also when doing hippie jumps. Perhaps when you try to step off the board toeside after the hippie jump it will feel weird and show you that you are used to lean heelside.
Id say set up and land like you do on flyouts. Maybe even try an ollie after each flyout
3 месяца назад
@@timematrix Yes, this is something I have started to think about as well. What really "unlocked" Fly Outs for me was to focus on *really* lifting the front knee and keeping it lifted for as long as possible. The second improvement was to crouch much more than I thought before pumping up the transition. The third improvement was when and how to pump up the transition. I started pumping up "faster" instead of "spreading out" the pump up motion while rolling up. I think these things would help the ollie as well. The pump up part is probably the hardest to "replicate" on flat ground though, since you don't get any help from the transition?
Great job. Hippy jumps look floaty! Is this based on the SkateIQ videos? I’ve been slowly working on them too and still struggling to get more than a couple of inches while rolling!
3 месяца назад
Yeah, I'm trying to get a "floaty" jump. I get a quite good jump when I'm not trying to pull up my legs, but as soon as I start doing something with my feet/knees I tend to mess up / interrupt my jump. Probably because I start moving my feet/knees too early, while my legs are still extending / generating upward power?
Hey Henrik, you can ollie, you can do it. just needs a little fine tuning. those ollies you do at the end. look at your front hand as you jump: imagine there's a piece of string from your front hand to your nose, your front hand is pulling your nose around to the left. try to get your front hand to 'pull' the nose straight up to stop the ollies twisting.
always try to lift your back foot to the same height as your front foot (or start by lifting your front foot lower). the board will level at the height where both your feet are level. at the moment your are lifting your front foot high and not then lifting your back foot as high as your front foot, so your ollies are rocketing.
Месяц назад
@@jh-wp8jo Thanks for the encouragement and for the two pieces of advice. I will play around with both these things during my next ollie session 😀
Still your board turns because your front foot turns. I think it is clearly visible, that this is causing the turning. You always land with the front foot pointing in riding direction. You turn it and then pull it a bit back (heelside). The problem is: if you would try not to turn the front foot, then you wouldn't do anything with the front foot after you have lift it up probably. No levelling. Not allowing yourself to turn the foot is very restraining for any other motion of this leg. This is why you will not see sudden progress if you try not to turn the front foot. You first have to get used to it. Look at the video, look at the moment, when it turns, and then name the reason for the turning. If it is not the front foot, what else could it be? For me the board follows exactly the angle of your front foot. Very easy to see, very easy to name the problem, but very difficult to break the habit.
3 месяца назад
Yeah, I agree, it has to be the front foot. And it's probably not just the foot, because I also turn my shoulder a bit frontside when I jump up. What is it I have to get used to first? I didn't get that part of your comment. The thing is, when I'm on the board it feels like I'm super straight and jumping up straight. Mitchie from SkateIQ actually reviewed one of my recent ollie attempts, and he told me to try to pull up my front knee towards my *back* shoulder just to see what happens / break my old habit. I tried to do something like this a couple of days ago, but failed. I guess I need to try it again.
I mean you have to get used to not turning the front foot. It is nothing special that your Ollies turn frontside. Almost all skaters that are not yet able to do a good Ollie do this. And also later it will remain a factor. For example frontside 50-50s are easier than backside ones. Mainly because it is easier to do a little turn frontside than backside. Interesting is that when skaters start to learn switch Ollies, this habit often doesn't even show up at all, even if they still turn frontside doing regular Ollies. So the different body position because of the different stance seems to help. But don't get me wrong: At the end it is not directly the switch stance body position that helps, but you clearly see them not turning the front foot when doing Ollies switch but still turning it when doing regular Ollies. Yes sometimes it helps to change something that doesn't seem related to the problem at first sight, like for example perhaps moving the head different for a Rock and Roll. But sometimes you have to work directly where the problem is. The trap here is, that working on something not related often feels easier and you get the feel of learning comfortable step by step. It feels safe and yes perhaps it helps. And if you work on something not related perhaps you are satisfied simply by doing it, like a kid doing homework without thinking about the exact reason for. Our mind will always suggest us the safest way to get out a situation. It is very safe to do the same frontside turned Ollie again and again, because you have learned not to fall down when you do this. Very obvious is this when learning kickflips: After many many tries again and again without trying to land on the board, fearless, only trying to flip the board and land with one foot on the ground, then to convince your mind to change your motion this slightly bit that you land on the board (and eventually land primo), this is the difficult step.
Don't pop straight down, pop the board a bit back, which alows it to roll back a bit so your front knee stays in front of your board and makes leveling out the board more easy. But you got it dude, four wheels of the ground is considered an Ollie. Keep shredding.
Thanks! I have actually tried popping the board a bit back, but it didn't really help. I think I need to fix something more fundamental. Also, some people say that it's important to pop straight down, so I don't know what to think any longer :-D
When you pop the board goes a little to the front, so you have to swing your hip to try to level it out and you land a bit turned. When you pop a bit back the board will be a little bit behind you and the nose will be right under you. Also when you jump your front knee should be out a bit more out and your foot should be under you, kinda in the middle of your body. Little recap, jump up front knee a bit out and foot right under you, pop the board to the back, the nose will touch your front foot and you straighten out your leg and the board will follow and level out. The board needs to make a circular motion. If you look at a Ollie in slow motion the board rolls a bit backwards while popping. Hope my gibberish made sense. Just start with some lazy ollie's, I mean super rocket Ollie's just lifting your front foot and barely lifting your back foot, just concentrate on keeping the board under you, and go from there.
You can do it Henrik!!! Keep trying.💪💪
There’s no room for words like “pathetic” in skateboarding :)
Sorry, I was just a bit frustrated when I wrote that. Frustrated but in a happy kind of way :)
I’m learning this too. It’s hard. You should be more positive. It will help with your learning
Hehe, yeah I know, but after struggling for 10 years it's easy to get a bit frustrated :-D How far have you come on your ollie journey?
100%. I'm 1 week into my journey kkk
From the side views it looks like the nose follows your hips. When you crouch down your hips are off to the heelside. When you land, the you pull the nose back to the heelside (like the other commenter mentioned) so your hips are directly over the board.
So when you crouch, try keeping your hips more over the board and chest facing forward. When you land try landing with your hips more to the heelside.
Hips more over the board when crouching. I think that will be hard using my current posture / crouch. But I've seen that many great skaters actually turn their whole body frontside when they are crouching. That way I guess the hips can be more straight over the board. Is that something I should try?
I think he is right. You lean heelside. Also when doing hippie jumps. Perhaps when you try to step off the board toeside after the hippie jump it will feel weird and show you that you are used to lean heelside.
Id say set up and land like you do on flyouts. Maybe even try an ollie after each flyout
@@timematrix Yes, this is something I have started to think about as well. What really "unlocked" Fly Outs for me was to focus on *really* lifting the front knee and keeping it lifted for as long as possible. The second improvement was to crouch much more than I thought before pumping up the transition. The third improvement was when and how to pump up the transition. I started pumping up "faster" instead of "spreading out" the pump up motion while rolling up. I think these things would help the ollie as well. The pump up part is probably the hardest to "replicate" on flat ground though, since you don't get any help from the transition?
Great job. Hippy jumps look floaty! Is this based on the SkateIQ videos? I’ve been slowly working on them too and still struggling to get more than a couple of inches while rolling!
Yeah, I'm trying to get a "floaty" jump. I get a quite good jump when I'm not trying to pull up my legs, but as soon as I start doing something with my feet/knees I tend to mess up / interrupt my jump. Probably because I start moving my feet/knees too early, while my legs are still extending / generating upward power?
Hey Henrik, you can ollie, you can do it. just needs a little fine tuning. those ollies you do at the end. look at your front hand as you jump: imagine there's a piece of string from your front hand to your nose, your front hand is pulling your nose around to the left. try to get your front hand to 'pull' the nose straight up to stop the ollies twisting.
always try to lift your back foot to the same height as your front foot (or start by lifting your front foot lower). the board will level at the height where both your feet are level. at the moment your are lifting your front foot high and not then lifting your back foot as high as your front foot, so your ollies are rocketing.
@@jh-wp8jo Thanks for the encouragement and for the two pieces of advice. I will play around with both these things during my next ollie session 😀
With your determination and persistence you can only be successful
Still your board turns because your front foot turns. I think it is clearly visible, that this is causing the turning. You always land with the front foot pointing in riding direction. You turn it and then pull it a bit back (heelside).
The problem is: if you would try not to turn the front foot, then you wouldn't do anything with the front foot after you have lift it up probably. No levelling. Not allowing yourself to turn the foot is very restraining for any other motion of this leg. This is why you will not see sudden progress if you try not to turn the front foot. You first have to get used to it.
Look at the video, look at the moment, when it turns, and then name the reason for the turning. If it is not the front foot, what else could it be? For me the board follows exactly the angle of your front foot. Very easy to see, very easy to name the problem, but very difficult to break the habit.
Yeah, I agree, it has to be the front foot. And it's probably not just the foot, because I also turn my shoulder a bit frontside when I jump up. What is it I have to get used to first? I didn't get that part of your comment.
The thing is, when I'm on the board it feels like I'm super straight and jumping up straight. Mitchie from SkateIQ actually reviewed one of my recent ollie attempts, and he told me to try to pull up my front knee towards my *back* shoulder just to see what happens / break my old habit. I tried to do something like this a couple of days ago, but failed. I guess I need to try it again.
I mean you have to get used to not turning the front foot.
It is nothing special that your Ollies turn frontside. Almost all skaters that are not yet able to do a good Ollie do this. And also later it will remain a factor. For example frontside 50-50s are easier than backside ones. Mainly because it is easier to do a little turn frontside than backside.
Interesting is that when skaters start to learn switch Ollies, this habit often doesn't even show up at all, even if they still turn frontside doing regular Ollies. So the different body position because of the different stance seems to help. But don't get me wrong: At the end it is not directly the switch stance body position that helps, but you clearly see them not turning the front foot when doing Ollies switch but still turning it when doing regular Ollies.
Yes sometimes it helps to change something that doesn't seem related to the problem at first sight, like for example perhaps moving the head different for a Rock and Roll. But sometimes you have to work directly where the problem is.
The trap here is, that working on something not related often feels easier and you get the feel of learning comfortable step by step. It feels safe and yes perhaps it helps. And if you work on something not related perhaps you are satisfied simply by doing it, like a kid doing homework without thinking about the exact reason for.
Our mind will always suggest us the safest way to get out a situation. It is very safe to do the same frontside turned Ollie again and again, because you have learned not to fall down when you do this.
Very obvious is this when learning kickflips: After many many tries again and again without trying to land on the board, fearless, only trying to flip the board and land with one foot on the ground, then to convince your mind to change your motion this slightly bit that you land on the board (and eventually land primo), this is the difficult step.