The Seagull St6 is a bit basic with no decoration but is pretty reliable,accurate and cheap. They last and last without service so a good choice. A good looking watch copied really well.
Bought one of these based on the video. What a fantastic watch. Superbly made, cant see how the Tag would be any better with regard to fit and finish. Of course with the Tag, you're paying for the name and the quality of the movement etc. In my case bezel rotates very nicely. Two links removed easily and I dont know its on my wrist even though it has good weight. The strap is the best I've come across for a copy/fake/homage watch, even better than my sons genuine Tag which has a lot of play in the links Stainless steel is stainless steel generally, and I would expect a Tag to be at least 316. I suspect this Pagani is 316 also. In Oz the Aquaracer retails for around $AUD2000, so my $AUD80 is a bit of a bargain.... We know it's not a Tag, but I'm very happy to wear it...
Thanks for sharing that... glad you are enjoying it. I have had the Aquaracer in hand and I would say it's definitely superior fit, finish, bezel feel, bracelet and not mention superior materials, but you would of course expect all that with the price... to not have it would be a real shame on Tag I reckon. Not all steel is the same either... many lower end Chinese watches use a somewhat lower grade of steel than 316 it seems. Cheers, Ivan.
MY FIRST PAGANI. I BOUGHT THIS BACK IN 2018. THE ONLY NEGATIVE THE BRACELETS FELL APART I HAD TO CHANGE THE STRAPS TO BLUE RUBBER BAND FROM CHAINS. THE WATCH IS STILL ACCURATE IN TIMING.
I have limited experience in watches but I learned that it is not enough to have a reliable movement bur equally important is to have high quality everything else. Unreputable brands may have silly malfunction including screw down crown that does not have smooth action. Bazel that may detach and pop out if you force it in opposite direction. ..etc.
@@PerthWAtch There is a new version from "Bersigar" with Seiko NH36, second stop, manual winding and day-date for around 100€. It's even better. The case is better finished in that one as well.
@@YummehPyroFlakes thanks for that very useful bit of information! I've just checked out the Bersigar version, indeed, sapphire crystal instead of Hardlex (major difference there in shine and light bounce pop), and Seiko NH36! Thanks for that note. Only downside for me, I'm not a fan of the Bersigar name nor insignia, given the choice I prefer PD in both respects. However, you can't argue with the upgrade in terms of movement and glass, which are both very significant.
@@BUZRBF I've got the Bersigar in february this year and it just won't leave my wrist. It's so comfy even when it's so heavy. Movement is great, not a single scratch on the glass or the ceramic bezel.. Can't complain for around 100€. You can even grab it on sale for 89 regularly.
@Cool Crush Ice Killa Shenhua are one of the worst cheapest Chinese watches. I have one, skeleton and it stops randomly. It was services by a watchmaker and again stops randomly, even without wearing, sitting on the table.
I cannot fathom why people have such an aversion to homage watches. To me it's beautiful, so I will buy one , and it is also great value. Branding does not draw me.
I think it’s because there is a fine line between homage (say like Undone chronographs) and near 100% copies, such as some Pagani designs. Say someone designs a watch from scratch, making it original. Another person makes a watch that is pretty much a to the millimetre copy, slaps on a different name, and calls it “homage”. The first guy rightfully would not be very happy - I think that’s the problem some people have against watches like this one.
Apparently this watch has been upgraded alot since this review. My example uses a NH35A movement with 100m w/r and the cyclops is gone. Even though the bracelet clasp has no microadjustments, the links are unusually silky feeling. An incredible homage bargain imo.
I'm almost embarrassed to admit it, but I like it! Shame about the bezel, and although I've never been a huge Tag fan, it's a nice looking watch. I haven't had a seagull movement, what's your experience? Thanks again.
Haha thanks for that Derek - your secret will stay safe with me. And the 6000 subs :). I have a couple of Ingersoll with Seagull movements and they've worked very well, certainly by reports do well. Seagull is probably the best movement maker coming out of China and their reputation is well deserved. Cheers, Ivan.
+Derek Hicks the Seagull movements are fine so far as I'm concerned, especially for the price. I have a couple of watches with Seagulls and have no complaints, but moreover the Seagulls have their own significant history
It's amazing how things have changed in 2022 on these homages: - 120 clicks ceramic bezels - all stainless steel - nh35/miyota movement The value for money now is far better
It looks well executed from the video; very good looking. It does bring up the question of what qualifies as a homage and what is an actual copy. Is it a copy only when the original brand name is slapped on dial? Or are we just using homage as a nice word to say a copy? Or perhaps intellectual property infringement is simply where the line is.
Good points raised there Daniel! I think IP infringement is a complex thing and what a court decides one day might be different from the next. For me, I would say something is only definitely a copy when it's trying to pass off for something that it's not... in that way I equate copy to knock off. Others would say that something is a copy when a certain proportion of design elements have been emulated - granted this one has a rather high proportion! People obviously do differ on what makes a copy vs homage.
Daniel Fortin I usually have 3 classes. Homages are inspired, copies are lookalike but with different brands and replicas uses the same brand as the one being replicated. Homages are okay, copies depending, and replicas are a no go. For me at least.
My opinion it is an homage because it looks like a tag but has some things changed like the extentions are at 40 and 50 minutes on tag there are at 45 and 55 for example and the band looks like it but the clasp is different. Personaly I am impressed
Thanks for a very thorough, well done review! I really like this watch save one thing, the 30m WR!! I really like the Sea-gull movement that hacks and hand winds, the looks, the size, decent finish quality, not bothered by the 90-click bezel as obviously no one is going to dive with it. But, having a versatile sports watch, even as a beater, it'd be nice to have at least 50m of WR, and without it, gives me pause. Keep up the great work!
Thank you very much for this! I’ll order one for sure, your reviews are the most honest in RUclips, if you think it is not bad, then it is enough for me ;)
thanks again, always enjoy your reviews! i summoned the courage to use pay pal and must say my earlier concerns i shared with you proved worry-free (alpha purchase). this one (pagani) caught me by surprise--will try to acquire...
Great Review. Just arrived and I needed to go thru your vid to remind myself about the pros and cons. Bezel is too loose, cyclops is off center and Steel bracelet is sharp on the edges (check, check and check) other than that... a pretty nice copy of the Tag Aquaracer. I put it on an EACHE 22mm Oiled Leather Strap. Cheers!
I just put it in cold water to destroy it because i didn't like it but it still continues to work with no problem, i thought it would be good for people to know. I think i'll keep it ans use it under shower, while diving and swimming until it dies
Good review Ivan. I thought the same about the bracelet - a bit kind of sharp along the edges. I have ordered a silicone strap to try with it when its back 👍 Overall i can accept the bezel action given the price and i never really time anything so as long as i line it up to 12 its good. Cheers.
@@W0pper1997 im not certain it was ceramic mate. It might have been some type of acrylic. Either way it wasn't going to scratch like aluminium. It might have been ceramic... I just have a hard time believing the specs on the Chinese special watches haha. Overall it was something a bit different for not too much money 👍
I got my green one today and i swapped it with army green silicone strap immediately. The metal strap quality is not that good. Other than that, it is a decent homage watch. Quite sturdy and heavy. I like it a lot. It is 100m WR though.
hi ivan, how are you, mate? i just ran across this review about a year and a half ago. Pagani design, copy of Tag. I watch it just to compare the new one you just reviewed. Hulk Rolex homage. it seems like they have made a lot of improvements. the bezel action is much better now, way better. the cyclops magnification was improved from 1.5 to 2.5. better bracelet and clasp, specially clasp. Specially, I am impressed that they are now using NH35 rather than some suspicious seagull copy movements. about two years ago, Pagani was behind of Parnis and even corgeut, but I think that they now make better watches.... thanks Ivan.
Yeah, totally agree... they have definitely stepped up their game since this particular watch. If I still had this one I might be inclined to do a comparison video actually!
@@PerthWAtch if one of your subscribers can send one to you, that would be ideal. but if not, still you have the old video review that you can split the screen to compare with your new model. personally, I do not know how to do it, but I have seen that in the video youtube. probably you already know how to do it anyway. thanks for your prompt reply and have a great day in Perth.
I briefly held a 'Pagani's' take on AP's Royal Oak. Though certainly looked nice with the famous heft that Royal Oak is famed for, looks are deceiving which is almost too good to be true with incoherencies. Its a double edge whereby on one side, relatively cheap priced watch for decent amount of quality materials used with a tank built like movement yet with poor fitting and mediocre workmanship. Eg. Case Lugs are thicker than the supposedly integrated bracelet links and misaligned lack lustered dial with markers. In short, valuable materials in lesser product value.
They've definitely ripped off the tag on this one. I have 2 pagani design watches they are a decent for the money. I don't know if I will go for th his one
Thanks for clarifying the bezel action at 90 clicks (who thought that was a good way to go?) It is the same as the PD 1639. I have seen examples of the 1639 that incorporated the Seiko NH35 movement, too bad that it isn't available for the PD 1617. Subscribed and liked. Thanks for a nice review. PS. I do like the green variant better.
I'm wearing this timepiece while watching the video. It's a really appealing watch but unfortunately mine keeps time very erratically. It can run very decent for a day or two and suddenly, within an hour or so, it gains 7 minutes... Considering the price (52 euros) it's not worth to bring it to a watchmaker.
Thanks for sharing that - I think the design and finish is pretty darn good for the price. A pity about the movement on yours though - I would be inclined to try to regulate it myself in this case.
thanks for nice review! - i have ben offered a similar model, but two-tone, also automatic, but the seller says it is a Seiko NH35 in it, and sapphire crystal glass, greetings Levi in sweden
Quality for $70 is ok, definitely not the worse you can find and the case here is solid and waterproof. I cannot remember accuracy, please watch video to find out ;)
Hi Ivan, If you compare this watch with the Tevise T801a, which one do you prefer??🙈 The seagull movement, is it any good?? Thanks, again for a great review!!👌🏻 I’ve been looking forward to this Pagani Design!!😉
Thanks Torben! This is 3x the price of the Tevise and I think no question at all it's a better product, in all categories too. Seagull is probably one of the most reputable movement makers coming out of China, and this would be better than the Tongji in the Tevise.
Tevise is rubbish. I had the same watch rebranded to some other random mushroom brand (same movement, case, bezel... same everything aside from logo) and it was properly clunky. A purchase I regret.
@@True-os6tg I can't remember the make (Dun? It was some nonsense name) but after comparison on the watchuseek forums, it was indeed the same watch with a slightly modified dial. A lot of these cheap Chinese watches use the exact same materials (a lot of the mushroom brands share factories), particularly if they sit in the same price point, and sometimes the differences are merely a different combination of parts, or straight up the same parts with a different dial. Occasionally you'll see something pop up with something a bit more expensive inside it, but they are more the exception than the rule.
@@bartonez123 I would nt be too sure about that watch being the same Be nice if you had any details at all but never mind .All Tevise watches come with a 45 day return policy if you had bought one you 'd ve been fine , As long as you realize these watches are hand winders with just a little help from auto they are great value for the price of a pizza .I dont regret buying mine at all .Best mechanical watch for $20 easily tho you get what you pay for and if you spend another $50 you can get an homage with sapphire ,,miyota movement proper water resistance etc for sure ,
Können Sie empfehlen Medikamente für Furz und Durchfall? Ich Furz wie eine große Trompete. Vollen Klang, wie ein Kaiser Furz. Mein Durchfall fließt wie ein Fluss.
Not many people would know the Aquaracer ,even watch buffs avoid Tag but it's a fave of mine and this looks like great value ,ps not sure what some people expect for a £50 automatic going buy some comments ,made me chuckle .
Tag seems to get top billing in some of the big grey retailers online not to mention some of the bigger jewellery chains here in oz. Haha yeah I think some were expecting sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, a hi-beat movement, and dive capability in this homage :)
Pagani Design be putting in that work to make affordable and fabulous Time Pieces who could have a problem with that , I don't know who but I'm sure somebody does. Fabulous Watch by Pagani Design.
The thing that people have problem about is that they have put zero work into design but have completely copied this. That’s why some people will never touch such homage watches.
@@PerthWAtch yeah at this price can't expect rock solid construction I guess. Thanks for doing the gearbest reviews! Always interesting what jems you can find there :)
I have that watch 1617 . At 8 months the second hand would stop every 10 to 60 seconds. It would start again with a tap. I would send it back but don't know where I bought it. Any one out there know had the same problem?
Hard to tell if it's good from pictures but if it feels good and is solid waterproof, then for $140 it's fair enough, assuming it's got a good Seiko chronograph movement in it, or equivalent.
Perth WAtch thank brother you made my day, coz I have two akribos xxiv,two casio duro mdv, casio tough solar and orient quartz diver all watches are good and I love them
Not supposed to swim with 30m rated watch, but I suspect this one will do ok because of screw down case back and crown. Like I said in video, this was not my watch.
Can you do a review on the Corgeut Black Bay homage/ copy? I've bought one (still waiting for it to come) and it uses a Miyota movement and has sapphire crystal.
Yes, the ONLY Aquaracer GMT model is the Pepsi one - there is no other Aquaracer GMT in the current lineup. The typical Aquaracer (including the one which this Pagani copies) are the 3 hand Cal. 5 models, in which the colored bezels are ceramic. Look it up again ;)
@@PerthWAtch Yes I know that. But even for a dress-watch I would prefer 5 atm - better 10 atm. I wouldn´t buy 3 atm watches at all but that´s only my preference.
Greg Burville not really about buying an SKX. Its about mixing it up and wearing something different for a day or two without spending heaps 👍 no doubt the SKX is the better made piece.
Well spotted, the cyclops is too far to the right - I forgot to mention that! I've reviewed watches with 90 click bezels (Spinnaker for one) and of note is the more expensive Glycine Combat Sub had a 60 click bezel too!
Its not a dive watch but it is a quarter of the price of skx with hacking and hand winding .I've got a couple of good dive watches like most of us so might get this cheeky homage .It's never a question of one or the other with watches esp when dif types at very dif price points ,
I must reluctantly confess I actually like this watch! I was able to buy some Orient Mako 2 and Ray 2 watches for $130 a piece new on sale that are way better watches! If I didn't have over 40 watches and wanted a cool looking diver style watch for the $70 mark, I would buy one as a beater.
automatic 17 jewles needs to be 21 at least, this one will devlope the noisey rotor problem and run like shit .. you can get a swiss 50s watch that will out last this dog of a watch ..jeff..
Really you should not be too picky on a watch that costs less than US$75. For that price I look at 2 main things, the look and finishing of the watch itself, the look of this model is quite a decent one and the accuracy, you don't even mention it, another channel "Just One more Watch" makes the effort of measuring some of the watches that cost less than US$55. Good Quality Clasp/metal wrist band costs more money(*) don't pick on watches that cost less than US$150-$200. If you review Seiko 62 Mas Chinese homage that costs more than US$250 then you can pick. * some reasonable good quality ones already cost more than US$50.
Thanks for watching - this is a rather old video and I currently quote the accuracy on every mechanical I review. Some channels evolve and make changes over time, you might have noticed that? ;) As for your other suggestions, well, thanks but no thanks... I will pick on whatever I think is appropriate to pick on. If there is a watch in comparable price range that offers better in a particular facet, then it's absolutely fair game to point out these faults.
Me dio curiosidad, porque titulas el video como "una gran estafa"? No lo entiendo, al ver el vídeo las críticas son mayormente positivas, no encuentro el punto.
The Seagull St6 is a bit basic with no decoration but is pretty reliable,accurate and cheap.
They last and last without service so a good choice.
A good looking watch copied really well.
Thanks for the thoughts as always Neil!
Mine arrived running slow. I put it through the demagnetizer, and it is now very accurate.
Sounds like a good thing to do!
I like the Pagani Design watches, they're good quality for the price and each of them I've reviewed I've enjoyed.
Yeah agreed, they’ve improved with many of their iterations.
Bought one of these based on the video. What a fantastic watch. Superbly made, cant see how the Tag would be any better with regard to fit and finish. Of course with the Tag, you're paying for the name and the quality of the movement etc. In my case bezel rotates very nicely. Two links removed easily and I dont know its on my wrist even though it has good weight. The strap is the best I've come across for a copy/fake/homage watch, even better than my sons genuine Tag which has a lot of play in the links
Stainless steel is stainless steel generally, and I would expect a Tag to be at least 316. I suspect this Pagani is 316 also. In Oz the Aquaracer retails for around $AUD2000, so my $AUD80 is a bit of a bargain....
We know it's not a Tag, but I'm very happy to wear it...
Thanks for sharing that... glad you are enjoying it. I have had the Aquaracer in hand and I would say it's definitely superior fit, finish, bezel feel, bracelet and not mention superior materials, but you would of course expect all that with the price... to not have it would be a real shame on Tag I reckon.
Not all steel is the same either... many lower end Chinese watches use a somewhat lower grade of steel than 316 it seems. Cheers, Ivan.
How's it working
MY FIRST PAGANI. I BOUGHT THIS BACK IN 2018. THE ONLY NEGATIVE THE BRACELETS FELL APART I HAD TO CHANGE THE STRAPS TO BLUE RUBBER BAND FROM CHAINS. THE WATCH IS STILL ACCURATE IN TIMING.
THAT’S GREAT, THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE
I bought this same one and it arrived today. What a beautiful watch. It feels like mid to high end for sure.
Thanks for sharing that - glad you are enjoying it :)
The funniest thing you said was "no diver's extension" on a watch that has a 3atm rating.
Hahaha good point, that is definitely the funniest part of this video!
I have limited experience in watches but I learned that it is not enough to have a reliable movement bur equally important is to have high quality everything else. Unreputable brands may have silly malfunction including screw down crown that does not have smooth action. Bazel that may detach and pop out if you force it in opposite direction. ..etc.
Thanks for that - those are good points. So far so good for this particular watch, I can say :)
Enjoyed your video! If it's actually Seagull ST6 moment - that's great value for money proposition. All the best, Oleg.
Thanks for that - it does look like it may be a genuine Seagull!
@@PerthWAtch There is a new version from "Bersigar" with Seiko NH36, second stop, manual winding and day-date for around 100€. It's even better. The case is better finished in that one as well.
Powered by Seagull Automatic movement?
@@YummehPyroFlakes thanks for that very useful bit of information! I've just checked out the Bersigar version, indeed, sapphire crystal instead of Hardlex (major difference there in shine and light bounce pop), and Seiko NH36! Thanks for that note. Only downside for me, I'm not a fan of the Bersigar name nor insignia, given the choice I prefer PD in both respects. However, you can't argue with the upgrade in terms of movement and glass, which are both very significant.
@@BUZRBF I've got the Bersigar in february this year and it just won't leave my wrist.
It's so comfy even when it's so heavy.
Movement is great, not a single scratch on the glass or the ceramic bezel..
Can't complain for around 100€.
You can even grab it on sale for 89 regularly.
Is it bad that I own a real aquaracer and I kind of want this?....
Haha I think that's fine - I have a Seamaster 300M and would like a good homage of it! :)
@Cool Crush Ice Killa Shenhua are one of the worst cheapest Chinese watches. I have one, skeleton and it stops randomly. It was services by a watchmaker and again stops randomly, even without wearing, sitting on the table.
I cannot fathom why people have such an aversion to homage watches. To me it's beautiful, so I will buy one , and it is also great value. Branding does not draw me.
I think it’s because there is a fine line between homage (say like Undone chronographs) and near 100% copies, such as some Pagani designs. Say someone designs a watch from scratch, making it original. Another person makes a watch that is pretty much a to the millimetre copy, slaps on a different name, and calls it “homage”. The first guy rightfully would not be very happy - I think that’s the problem some people have against watches like this one.
Apparently this watch has been upgraded alot since this review. My example uses a NH35A movement with 100m w/r and the cyclops is gone. Even though the bracelet clasp has no microadjustments, the links are unusually silky feeling. An incredible homage bargain imo.
I'm almost embarrassed to admit it, but I like it! Shame about the bezel, and although I've never been a huge Tag fan, it's a nice looking watch. I haven't had a seagull movement, what's your experience? Thanks again.
Haha thanks for that Derek - your secret will stay safe with me. And the 6000 subs :). I have a couple of Ingersoll with Seagull movements and they've worked very well, certainly by reports do well. Seagull is probably the best movement maker coming out of China and their reputation is well deserved. Cheers, Ivan.
+Derek Hicks the Seagull movements are fine so far as I'm concerned, especially for the price. I have a couple of watches with Seagulls and have no complaints, but moreover the Seagulls have their own significant history
I enjoyed the review very much.
Glad to hear that
Looks EXACTLY like the Tag!!
Haha it does say "Pagani Design", but otherwise yeah it's very very close!
glad I waited, pagani upgraded this same watch with sapphire (PD-1668)... now it's worth buying
Nice!
It's amazing how things have changed in 2022 on these homages:
- 120 clicks ceramic bezels
- all stainless steel
- nh35/miyota movement
The value for money now is far better
That’s amazing!!
It looks well executed from the video; very good looking. It does bring up the question of what qualifies as a homage and what is an actual copy. Is it a copy only when the original brand name is slapped on dial? Or are we just using homage as a nice word to say a copy? Or perhaps intellectual property infringement is simply where the line is.
Good points raised there Daniel! I think IP infringement is a complex thing and what a court decides one day might be different from the next. For me, I would say something is only definitely a copy when it's trying to pass off for something that it's not... in that way I equate copy to knock off. Others would say that something is a copy when a certain proportion of design elements have been emulated - granted this one has a rather high proportion! People obviously do differ on what makes a copy vs homage.
Daniel Fortin I usually have 3 classes. Homages are inspired, copies are lookalike but with different brands and replicas uses the same brand as the one being replicated. Homages are okay, copies depending, and replicas are a no go. For me at least.
It's much better than a Tevise T801a. But I bought the Tevise T801a as a beater watch.
My opinion it is an homage because it looks like a tag but has some things changed like the extentions are at 40 and 50 minutes on tag there are at 45 and 55 for example and the band looks like it but the clasp is different. Personaly I am impressed
If the brand is falsified the correct term is counterfeit. If not there are various words to use.
Thanks for a very thorough, well done review! I really like this watch save one thing, the 30m WR!! I really like the Sea-gull movement that hacks and hand winds, the looks, the size, decent finish quality, not bothered by the 90-click bezel as obviously no one is going to dive with it. But, having a versatile sports watch, even as a beater, it'd be nice to have at least 50m of WR, and without it, gives me pause. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for that mate - good thoughts and I appreciate the positive feedback! Cheers, Ivan :)
Thank you very much for this! I’ll order one for sure, your reviews are the most honest in RUclips, if you think it is not bad, then it is enough for me ;)
Thanks - very kind of you! It's got its weak points but if you don't mind the copied design, for $70 it's a pretty good package!
If the bezel action was a bit tighter..but even still $70 use it as a beater..
Yeah exactly how I would view it, a good looker that you can wear and not be afraid to bang up :)
thanks again, always enjoy your reviews! i summoned the courage to use pay pal and must say my earlier concerns i shared with you proved worry-free (alpha purchase). this one (pagani) caught me by surprise--will try to acquire...
Thanks for the update Greg... well I hope the next purchase works out fine and you won't have to resort to buyer protection :)
Great Review. Just arrived and I needed to go thru your vid to remind myself about the pros and cons. Bezel is too loose, cyclops is off center and Steel bracelet is sharp on the edges (check, check and check) other than that... a pretty nice copy of the Tag Aquaracer. I put it on an EACHE 22mm Oiled Leather Strap. Cheers!
Thanks for that - glad the video helped, and good to know your piece ticked the boxes on all the issues :)
I just put it in cold water to destroy it because i didn't like it but it still continues to work with no problem, i thought it would be good for people to know. I think i'll keep it ans use it under shower, while diving and swimming until it dies
It's a surprisingly tough little nut isn't it? A thought - you could flip it if you really don't want it, I suspect you'd get a fair amount back!
Good review Ivan. I thought the same about the bracelet - a bit kind of sharp along the edges. I have ordered a silicone strap to try with it when its back 👍
Overall i can accept the bezel action given the price and i never really time anything so as long as i line it up to 12 its good. Cheers.
Thanks Sam! For $70 I definitely can forgive some shortcomings... the interesting head to head will be against a $70 Invicta - coming soon! :)
Perth WAtch Nice. I would think the Invicta will win.. But be gd to check it out.
@@samuelball8775 dude, the pagani has a ceramic bezel
@@W0pper1997 im not certain it was ceramic mate. It might have been some type of acrylic. Either way it wasn't going to scratch like aluminium. It might have been ceramic... I just have a hard time believing the specs on the Chinese special watches haha. Overall it was something a bit different for not too much money 👍
@@samuelball8775 a german youtuber who has his own watch brand, tested it. It is ceramic haha
I got my green one today and i swapped it with army green silicone strap immediately. The metal strap quality is not that good. Other than that, it is a decent homage watch. Quite sturdy and heavy. I like it a lot. It is 100m WR though.
Nice. Good thing that 100m is 50m more than most people need :)
What's with all these 90 click bezels? I know it's petty, but I just can't do 90 clicks... it just doesn't make sense to me.
Yeah agreed, if anything cutting it to 60 clicks would be preferred I reckon. Overall it seems most likely a cost cutting measure...
hi ivan, how are you, mate? i just ran across this review about a year and a half ago. Pagani design, copy of Tag. I watch it just to compare the new one you just reviewed. Hulk Rolex homage. it seems like they have made a lot of improvements. the bezel action is much better now, way better. the cyclops magnification was improved from 1.5 to 2.5. better bracelet and clasp, specially clasp. Specially, I am impressed that they are now using NH35 rather than some suspicious seagull copy movements. about two years ago, Pagani was behind of Parnis and even corgeut, but I think that they now make better watches.... thanks Ivan.
Yeah, totally agree... they have definitely stepped up their game since this particular watch. If I still had this one I might be inclined to do a comparison video actually!
@@PerthWAtch yes, please do the comparison. that would be beneficial for a lot of viewers. thanks
Would like to but will need to try to get my hands on the old model again...
@@PerthWAtch if one of your subscribers can send one to you, that would be ideal. but if not, still you have the old video review that you can split the screen to compare with your new model. personally, I do not know how to do it, but I have seen that in the video youtube. probably you already know how to do it anyway. thanks for your prompt reply and have a great day in Perth.
Interesting idea! I’ll give it some thought.
The lume may not last long, but it looks awesome while it does. I love mine and the matching quartz chrono with the Seiko vd57 movement.
Thanks for sharing those thoughts - glad you’re enjoying it :)
@@PerthWAtch I think I was wrong, it should be the VK67 movement in the chrono.
Good review, Is case material 316L stainless steel ?
Thanks - yes IIRC that's what they claim it to be...
It even has a ceramic bezel
I love the 43mm Aquaracer
The styling is growing on me... I didn't like it at first when they changed the dial and hands...
I wonder if they updated this to 100 meters. looks beautiful.
Not sure, but their newer models are definitely better
One thing you didn’t say: how accurate is the timekeeping - how many minutes lost/gained in a week?
Yeah I wasn't doing that regularly back then...
I briefly held a 'Pagani's' take on AP's Royal Oak.
Though certainly looked nice with the famous heft that Royal Oak is famed for, looks are deceiving which is almost too good to be true with incoherencies.
Its a double edge whereby on one side, relatively cheap priced watch for decent amount of quality materials used with a tank built like movement yet with poor fitting and mediocre workmanship.
Eg. Case Lugs are thicker than the supposedly integrated bracelet links and misaligned lack lustered dial with markers.
In short, valuable materials in lesser product value.
Haha thanks for sharing that - in many ways similar to this watch it seems then! Still sounds like pretty good value all things considered...
Anytime Perth WAtch ! Yes indeed ! Haha !
They've definitely ripped off the tag on this one. I have 2 pagani design watches they are a decent for the money. I don't know if I will go for th his one
Yes definitely.
Thanks for clarifying the bezel action at 90 clicks (who thought that was a good way to go?) It is the same as the PD 1639. I have seen examples of the 1639 that incorporated the Seiko NH35 movement, too bad that it isn't available for the PD 1617. Subscribed and liked. Thanks for a nice review. PS. I do like the green variant better.
Thanks for that man, yeah it’s still a puzzle to me why some brands would put in a 90 click bezel!
nice video, cant afford a aquaracer will order one of this
Thanks for that - I'm sure you will enjoy it :)
I'm gonna wear this watch while driving my Pagani ;)
One might say that's a match made in heaven ;)
As you should!!!
Lol
You can also get a green version
Thanks for that - good to know! :)
I'm wearing this timepiece while watching the video. It's a really appealing watch but unfortunately mine keeps time very erratically. It can run very decent for a day or two and suddenly, within an hour or so, it gains 7 minutes... Considering the price (52 euros) it's not worth to bring it to a watchmaker.
Thanks for sharing that - I think the design and finish is pretty darn good for the price. A pity about the movement on yours though - I would be inclined to try to regulate it myself in this case.
Sounds like it's been dropped
Very good review, sir. Enjoyed it very much!
Thank you - really appreciate the positive feedback :)
Have one in green blue looks good tho I don’t think they currently do a Pepsi
Yeah that’s right, I don’t think they do that (and neither do TAG)
Tag do a Pepsi gmt
Yeah but not an Aquaracer model I believe?
I love the Zonda better
So I do! Gonna have to mortgage my house though. And take equity from my investment property. And top up with a personal loan :)
thanks for nice review! - i have ben offered a similar model, but two-tone, also automatic, but the seller says it is a Seiko NH35 in it, and sapphire crystal glass, greetings Levi in sweden
Interesting proposition!
What do u think about the quality it is worth to buy or a low production from China again? And can u tell me about the accuracy
Quality for $70 is ok, definitely not the worse you can find and the case here is solid and waterproof. I cannot remember accuracy, please watch video to find out ;)
Have we confirmed one can swim with it. Anyone have water infiltration problems swimming? Any actually gaskets and seals on crown case back? thx
got one, love it
Good to hear mate :)
Still love it :p?
@@MaselEistee yeah, still running great
Pretty cool. But don't Pagani have any waterproof skills?
Not sure mate... maybe try looking at their AliExpress listings?
@@PerthWAtch sure thanks buddy :)
I was looking for this model on AliExpress I wasn't able to find it perhaps are they not making it anymore
I think you may be right... I got this quite a while ago now
which one is better this one or the pagani watch submariner if u wuld adviced to buy.?
Sorry, I haven’t seen the Pagani Submariner so I can’t properly advise on this...
Recently bought this watch. Mine says 100m water resistant but yours 30mm 🤔
How curious, that’s the magic of Pagani :)
Hi Ivan,
If you compare this watch with the Tevise T801a, which one do you prefer??🙈
The seagull movement, is it any good??
Thanks, again for a great review!!👌🏻 I’ve been looking forward to this Pagani Design!!😉
Thanks Torben! This is 3x the price of the Tevise and I think no question at all it's a better product, in all categories too. Seagull is probably one of the most reputable movement makers coming out of China, and this would be better than the Tongji in the Tevise.
Tevise is rubbish. I had the same watch rebranded to some other random mushroom brand (same movement, case, bezel... same everything aside from logo) and it was properly clunky. A purchase I regret.
@@bartonez123 I doubt if was the same ,what is the make ?
@@True-os6tg I can't remember the make (Dun? It was some nonsense name) but after comparison on the watchuseek forums, it was indeed the same watch with a slightly modified dial. A lot of these cheap Chinese watches use the exact same materials (a lot of the mushroom brands share factories), particularly if they sit in the same price point, and sometimes the differences are merely a different combination of parts, or straight up the same parts with a different dial. Occasionally you'll see something pop up with something a bit more expensive inside it, but they are more the exception than the rule.
@@bartonez123 I would nt be too sure about that watch being the same Be nice if you had any details at all but never mind .All Tevise watches come with a 45 day return policy if you had bought one you 'd ve been fine ,
As long as you realize these watches are hand winders with just a little help from auto they are great value for the price of a pizza .I dont regret buying mine at all .Best mechanical watch for $20 easily tho you get what you pay for and if you spend another $50 you can get an homage with sapphire ,,miyota movement proper water resistance etc for sure ,
Können Sie empfehlen Medikamente für Furz und Durchfall? Ich Furz wie eine große Trompete. Vollen Klang, wie ein Kaiser Furz. Mein Durchfall fließt wie ein Fluss.
Gastro-stop is your new best friend ;)
Not many people would know the Aquaracer ,even watch buffs avoid Tag but it's a fave of mine and this looks like great value ,ps not sure what some people expect for a £50 automatic going buy some comments ,made me chuckle .
Tag seems to get top billing in some of the big grey retailers online not to mention some of the bigger jewellery chains here in oz. Haha yeah I think some were expecting sapphire crystal, ceramic bezel, a hi-beat movement, and dive capability in this homage :)
30 meters water resistant on a dive watch??? No sale
Hahaha yes that would be strange indeed. This ain't a dive watch ;)
When was the last time you went diving at 30m depths with your wristwatch?
For me, it was quite a few years ago now. Why do you ask?
'cause... real dive watches/computers. And well, trying to be smart is all.
99.9% of people buying aquaracer or seamaster are not diving, just like 99.9% of people buying pilot watches are not actual pilots.
I wish they’d used this textured dial on their Faux-mega.
Which model are you referring to?
Pagani Design be putting in that work to make affordable and fabulous Time Pieces
who could have a problem with that , I don't know who
but I'm sure somebody does.
Fabulous Watch
by Pagani Design.
The thing that people have problem about is that they have put zero work into design but have completely copied this. That’s why some people will never touch such homage watches.
@@PerthWAtch Yup ! and they unfortunate miss out ,
Good review as usual
& Thanks for the real deal
Info.
Green or blue? What is better??
Neither and both - the “better” one is the one you prefer :)
So, do they get it down to the same quality as the original?
Nope.
Would be great if you reviewed the pagani rolex sea dweller homage. Thanks
Cool - what's the model number of that?
A bit of a bummer that bezel is so loose! Otherwise seems like a solid homage :)
It's not a bad piece at all actually, Pagani out out some very decent stuff for the low Sub $100 price points.
@@PerthWAtch yeah at this price can't expect rock solid construction I guess. Thanks for doing the gearbest reviews! Always interesting what jems you can find there :)
Most welcome bro :)
And that it's only 30m WR ... and because it doesn't have a sapphire glass ... and no ceramic bezel. The PD1639 is better from that perspective.
That’s interesting... which aspect of the PD 1639 model do you think is better?
Hello sir,its over a year after unboxing video,does the watch still working?please share your thought😄
Hello there - as I mentioned in the review, this isn't my watch, it was borrowed ;)
The glass with sapphire crystal?
What?
What material the glass?
This one very long ago, can’t remember. Did you watch video to check?
I have that watch 1617 . At 8 months the second hand would stop every 10 to 60 seconds. It would start again with a tap. I would send it back but don't know where I bought it. Any one out there know had the same problem?
Why don’t you know where you bought it?
If you like it and want to keep it, a good watchmaker can sort out the problem for you.
Does the bracelet taper or not?
Dunno, does it looks like it?
Ist top !! Ich habe die in schwarz , ich liebe sie!!!
What?
uhh seagal st6 is better than seiko nh35?
No, I don't think many would say that...
i got one... the automatic runs for almost 48h
You think it runs better than the specs stipulate? Ok mate…
I’m just telling mate how long my runs. Checked.
Amazingly incredulous!
@@PerthWAtch well....not trying to proof anything!!!just saying how works with mine.if you get one of those let me know how worked for you!
Never runs more than 40 hours… that would be beyond spec, which is pretty much unheard of
You got the wrong one! Should have got the Sub Homage as its super!!
What an odd comment...
1. That watch didn’t exist when I made this video
2. I do have the the Sub homage and have made multiple videos with it ;)
What is the lug to lug width on this watch?
You mean the lug to lug length? As I mentioned at 3:17 it's 50mm.
@@PerthWAtch Perfect. Thanks for the info.
Is this got the ceramic bezel?
No, I don't think so...
Hi brother ! It's me quartz guy resently I brought akribos xxiv ak663ssb watch its looks good and feel good, it's this watch good or bad
Hi there! Are you asking me whether the Akribos or this Pagani Design is good or bad?
Perth WAtch sorry brother I mean akribos xxiv watch
Hard to tell if it's good from pictures but if it feels good and is solid waterproof, then for $140 it's fair enough, assuming it's got a good Seiko chronograph movement in it, or equivalent.
Perth WAtch thank brother you made my day, coz I have two akribos xxiv,two casio duro mdv, casio tough solar and orient quartz diver all watches are good and I love them
Can you swim with it?
And how it works after 1 year ?
Not supposed to swim with 30m rated watch, but I suspect this one will do ok because of screw down case back and crown. Like I said in video, this was not my watch.
in 2020, this model is 100m WR, so you can swim with it, just make sure the crown is screwed down tied.
1:47 you're welcome
Ok. Sure mate ;)
It is a very nice watch....🤪🤪🤪
Thank you for the comment :)
I wait for two months the watch and when arrive the crown broken its a beautiful watch but the quality is prety bad
Thank God for PayPal :)
Interesting, thank u for posting.....
Most welcome - thanks for watching! :)
Love this watch, so nice!!!
Yeah it’s a pretty good looker :)
Can you do a review on the Corgeut Black Bay homage/ copy? I've bought one (still waiting for it to come) and it uses a Miyota movement and has sapphire crystal.
Already did it - do a search through my channel videos and you'll see it :)
It's crazy that this watch has a ceramic bezel whereas the original doesn't O_o
Original meaning the Tag Heuer Aquaracer? FYI they do have ceramic bezels.
@@PerthWAtch I am very sure that they don't. Thats why they usually sell u two bezels if you buy the GMT Pepsi
@@PerthWAtch I just looked it up. The GMT models have aluminium bezels
Yes, the ONLY Aquaracer GMT model is the Pepsi one - there is no other Aquaracer GMT in the current lineup. The typical Aquaracer (including the one which this Pagani copies) are the 3 hand Cal. 5 models, in which the colored bezels are ceramic. Look it up again ;)
Paganiwatch online, weird I can't see this watch I presume they are to different makers.
Thanks for that - pretty sure that's just another reseller though.
Nice watch - but a 3 atm rating is a NO-GO !
Many Chinese watches are 30m rated...
@@PerthWAtch Yes I know that. But even for a dress-watch I would prefer 5 atm - better 10 atm. I wouldn´t buy 3 atm watches at all but that´s only my preference.
What are the dimensions?
Can’t remember - did you watch video?
please tell me how to buy this watch :(
Sure... have you tried the links I provided?
Is it my eyes, or is the cyclops totally misaligned? 90 click bezel? That has to be a first. Save up for an extra week and buy an SKX.
Greg Burville not really about buying an SKX. Its about mixing it up and wearing something different for a day or two without spending heaps 👍 no doubt the SKX is the better made piece.
Well spotted, the cyclops is too far to the right - I forgot to mention that! I've reviewed watches with 90 click bezels (Spinnaker for one) and of note is the more expensive Glycine Combat Sub had a 60 click bezel too!
Its not a dive watch but it is a quarter of the price of skx with hacking and hand winding .I've got a couple of good dive watches like most of us so might get this cheeky homage .It's never a question of one or the other with watches esp when dif types at very dif price points ,
mine gets delayed every day 10 min, rubbish. too bad, it is very beautiful
Should be able to get it regulated to much better performance than that.
I must reluctantly confess I actually like this watch! I was able to buy some Orient Mako 2 and Ray 2 watches for $130 a piece new on sale that are way better watches! If I didn't have over 40 watches and wanted a cool looking diver style watch for the $70 mark, I would buy one as a beater.
Thanks for sharing that! Wow $130 is a great price for those watches, good pickup!
Perth WAtch Thanks.
PassTheWatch had them on sale. They probably will again.
I will have to keep a lookout! :)
The brand says Pagani DESIGN.
The question is: which part of the watch was DESIGNED by Pagani?
Um... the bracelet clasp? :)
Thier Logo. 😁
Actually the case back also! :)
automatic 17 jewles needs to be 21 at least, this one will devlope the noisey rotor problem and run like shit .. you can get a swiss 50s watch that will out last this dog of a watch ..jeff..
I got green one.. all hood but movement is late -12-15 sex a day which is not good ... other stuff is extremely good
Most would say that 12-15 sex a day is astounding!
Pagani Design Sport - Unboxing - ruclips.net/video/O8Pcd42OYtE/видео.html
Nice vid Robi - all the best :)
@@PerthWAtch Thank you watch is beautiful
Micro adjustment on the bezel? 😂😂
Oh yeah I'm getting more demanding in my old age - bezels SHOULD have micro adjustment dammit! :D
Bezel, bracelet, both begin with the letter, "B" and the only adjustment necessary is how much Scotch it will take for you to not notice
Takes none for me to overlook that ;)
30m... Its the Aquapuddle.
Puddle-racer? ;)
Really you should not be too picky on a watch that costs less than US$75. For that price I look at 2 main things, the look and finishing of the watch itself, the look of this model is quite a decent one and the accuracy, you don't even mention it, another channel "Just One more Watch" makes the effort of measuring some of the watches that cost less than US$55.
Good Quality Clasp/metal wrist band costs more money(*) don't pick on watches that cost less than US$150-$200. If you review Seiko 62 Mas Chinese homage that costs more than US$250 then you can pick.
* some reasonable good quality ones already cost more than US$50.
Thanks for watching - this is a rather old video and I currently quote the accuracy on every mechanical I review. Some channels evolve and make changes over time, you might have noticed that? ;)
As for your other suggestions, well, thanks but no thanks... I will pick on whatever I think is appropriate to pick on. If there is a watch in comparable price range that offers better in a particular facet, then it's absolutely fair game to point out these faults.
whats the use of buying a replica if they can't even replicate the brand name?
This is a "homage", not a replica. There are replicas too for those want that ;)
Your saying it's 43mm. Pagani says it's 45mm. Who is right here?
Me. Definitely me :)
wow !!
You like?
Me dio curiosidad, porque titulas el video como "una gran estafa"? No lo entiendo, al ver el vídeo las críticas son mayormente positivas, no encuentro el punto.
What?
Hawaiian Islands of my own life is good and evil Hawaiian slack
Awesome man! What're you taking??
shameful copy of the original
I got the feeling they’re quite proud of it ;)
@@PerthWAtch shameful to infringe on copyrights, this is illegal
It’s prob as good as a Tag. They are rubbish anyway. Why would anyone want to pay homage to Tag is beyond me
Pretty simple it would seem to me... money and profit! ;)
Bla bla bla
Blah blah blah blah? ;)