I'm a U.S Navy veteran. When I visited Finland I was actually quite impressed at how well put together the men are. All of them, even the ones who haven't done their service yet, were well-disciplined and competent. I asked the men my age, I'm 22, what they thought of it and they were all very supportive of it. It didn't matter that none of them wanted to actually do it, their country's defence came first. That is extremely respectable in my eyes. In relation to the U.S if we brought back conscription I think it would have to be at a way smaller scale and remain selective. The decision would be extremely unpopular on both ends of our political aisle and I've said this to many people before: We'd have to send a lot of people to fat camp before boot camp. This also raises the question of military pay and benefits in the U.S. We complained constantly about the horrible pay and despite the fact our healthcare was free the quality was horrible. We also got access to free college education and various other benefits. There would for sure have to be a change in what we call a veteran and these benefits would have to be entirely overhauled to consider what should go to conscripts vs volunteers. I think these issues could be avoided if a hypothetical conscription was somewhat limited in scale and not just every man or woman. On the end of our military itself, our generals and admirals have expressed a desire to avoid going back to a draft at all costs. Whilst I never served with other nation's navies I do know sailors who have and they expressed conscripts make for extremely unmotivated and hard to work with troops. There just isn't a desire to have conscription within the military itself.
I believe conscription or mandatory military service only makes sense if there are generous provisions for veteran care, compensation for injuries, a good pension, and similar services.
It would be the same as with a professional military. But with conscripts used defensively and professional units used for OOA operations. At least that is how it is in Norway.
The majority of the world is not the norwegian military, imagine getting drafted to build a house for your liutenant while also gettting traumatized by your superiors due to the constant abuse. ALso no training because someone embezzled funds/ so you re not learning anthing , with a culture of backsatbbing and laziness. you re taking young people in their most profitable years and throwing their lifes into the quagmire
You could say the same things about a professional military in a country like that. But regardless I believe that a conscription-based military would be a great option for any high trust society.
@thodan467 that can be debated. Don't alot of US soldiers enlist in order to pay for things such as education and health care, or as an option other than prison (if they still do that?). One could question how motivated they are. On the other hand many conscripts can also be highly motivated, at least as long as you don't have total conscription, because then you will be conscripting the most motivated individuals and the individuals you most need.
@@CAjordal I rather doubt US soldier do build the private houses of their subaltern officers. US soldiers are not the only ones that get educational benefits
I'm just wondering how on earth this got into my recommended videos. Well, thanks anyway - that was a good one.
Haha, the algorithm works in mysterious ways
I'm a U.S Navy veteran. When I visited Finland I was actually quite impressed at how well put together the men are. All of them, even the ones who haven't done their service yet, were well-disciplined and competent. I asked the men my age, I'm 22, what they thought of it and they were all very supportive of it. It didn't matter that none of them wanted to actually do it, their country's defence came first. That is extremely respectable in my eyes.
In relation to the U.S if we brought back conscription I think it would have to be at a way smaller scale and remain selective. The decision would be extremely unpopular on both ends of our political aisle and I've said this to many people before: We'd have to send a lot of people to fat camp before boot camp. This also raises the question of military pay and benefits in the U.S. We complained constantly about the horrible pay and despite the fact our healthcare was free the quality was horrible. We also got access to free college education and various other benefits. There would for sure have to be a change in what we call a veteran and these benefits would have to be entirely overhauled to consider what should go to conscripts vs volunteers. I think these issues could be avoided if a hypothetical conscription was somewhat limited in scale and not just every man or woman.
On the end of our military itself, our generals and admirals have expressed a desire to avoid going back to a draft at all costs. Whilst I never served with other nation's navies I do know sailors who have and they expressed conscripts make for extremely unmotivated and hard to work with troops. There just isn't a desire to have conscription within the military itself.
depends on the legitimacy of the conscription, the treatment of the conscrpts and and the quality of leadership
I believe conscription or mandatory military service only makes sense if there are generous provisions for veteran care, compensation for injuries, a good pension, and similar services.
It would be the same as with a professional military. But with conscripts used defensively and professional units used for OOA operations. At least that is how it is in Norway.
THe british empier has hadde lover that sayses it is nota allowed to have a army.
The majority of the world is not the norwegian military, imagine getting drafted to build a house for your liutenant while also gettting traumatized by your superiors due to the constant abuse.
ALso no training because someone embezzled funds/ so you re not learning anthing , with a culture of backsatbbing and laziness.
you re taking young people in their most profitable years and throwing their lifes into the quagmire
You could say the same things about a professional military in a country like that. But regardless I believe that a conscription-based military would be a great option for any high trust society.
@@CAjordal
The recruits of the "profesional" military volunteered at least for the Job
@thodan467 that can be debated. Don't alot of US soldiers enlist in order to pay for things such as education and health care, or as an option other than prison (if they still do that?). One could question how motivated they are.
On the other hand many conscripts can also be highly motivated, at least as long as you don't have total conscription, because then you will be conscripting the most motivated individuals and the individuals you most need.
@@CAjordal
I rather doubt US soldier do build the private houses of their subaltern officers.
US soldiers are not the only ones that get educational benefits
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