The Worst Call in MLB History -- Why It Might Have Been Correct l Baseball Bits

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  • Опубликовано: 13 июн 2024
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    In the debut episode of Baseball Bits, Foolish Baseball examines the controversial game-ending call in the July 26, 2011 game between the Pittsburgh Pirates and Atlanta Braves. Umpire Jerry Meals set the baseball world ablaze when he called Julio Lugo safe, but was he correct all along?
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    Did Jerry Meals make the worst call ever? Or, was Julio Lugo safe? I make a deep dive into one of baseball's "wtf moments." Whether this is just another incident is of MLB idiot umps is up to the viewer, but I think there's an existing possibility that Lugo was safe on Scott Proctor's walk-off (or should I say fall off). We also learn a little bit about the MLB Instant Replay review process.
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    www.baseball-reference.com/bo...
    www.fangraphs.com/not/obvious/
    www.baseballprospectus.com/ne...
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Комментарии • 3 тыс.

  • @R8rRen
    @R8rRen 5 лет назад +5532

    No, the worst call in baseball history cost a man a perfect game.

    • @nacoran
      @nacoran 5 лет назад +440

      Galarraga should be listed with an asterix in the perfect game lists that says an ump blew a call otherwise it would have been perfect. That would let him be in the books and, better yet, get people to look up the video and see the whole controversy. The story is almost as good as the perfect game.

    • @evanmeyer4209
      @evanmeyer4209 5 лет назад +82

      3:45 he missed him

    • @deej7
      @deej7 5 лет назад +64

      the Galarraga call wasn't as bad as everyone thinks. there is a rarely-seen angle from the other direction where you can see Galarraga bobbles the ball a bit inside his glove as he touches the bag.

    • @shanepartridge2744
      @shanepartridge2744 5 лет назад +12

      @@deej7 can you link me

    • @coolguy02536
      @coolguy02536 5 лет назад +119

      On the plus side, we literally know Galarraga was perfect. He still has bragging rights. The only thing impeding that is the inability to reverse the objectively incorrect call.

  • @underhandcloud1414
    @underhandcloud1414 5 лет назад +3995

    This could literally be the greatest call in MLB history

    • @camacho_12
      @camacho_12 4 года назад +166

      Conner Pickus it is, even though it looks like he’s out by a mile, I paused it on like the slowest speed possible and he didn’t tag him

    • @Luke-yq1vt
      @Luke-yq1vt 4 года назад +12

      It is

    • @poolsoup6650
      @poolsoup6650 4 года назад +107

      ODS_Cobbtune I mean, he still could’ve tagged him. Like it’s so close if you say definitively you’re lying to yourself

    • @camacho_12
      @camacho_12 4 года назад +45

      Pool Soup the mlb reviewed it and he was safe

    • @poolsoup6650
      @poolsoup6650 4 года назад +21

      ODS_Cobbtune my statement stands

  • @jacobrice3242
    @jacobrice3242 4 года назад +2270

    The first time I ever watched this play in real time I thought "wow the catcher missed the tag"

    • @mattdavidson535
      @mattdavidson535 4 года назад +75

      Jacob Rice as a former catcher, I did too

    • @rorye6952
      @rorye6952 4 года назад +158

      M who fucking asked

    • @xx_xx_xx2827
      @xx_xx_xx2827 4 года назад +45

      Roar E did u ask? cause i sure didn’t.

    • @rorye6952
      @rorye6952 4 года назад +35

      Cayson VLOGS no I don’t think so..

    • @beachsunsets8254
      @beachsunsets8254 4 года назад +32

      Just ignore Manchester, he’s just begging for attention

  • @CZsWorld
    @CZsWorld 4 года назад +1243

    Baseball + Pokemon Johto music? A match made in heaven.

  • @BeefPapa
    @BeefPapa 5 лет назад +2266

    I actually admire Meals for going with what he saw, instead of assuming what should've been.

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  5 лет назад +217

      I agree 100%.

    • @revinevan87
      @revinevan87 5 лет назад +3

      he didn't see Lugo's reaction?

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  5 лет назад +265

      If he's making a call based off Lugo's reaction, he's doing it all wrong. The right thing to do is call what he sees.

    • @why-even-try-brotendo
      @why-even-try-brotendo 5 лет назад +19

      Lugo's reaction completely destroys your entire video. You are purposely leaving it out to fit your own narrative. You are dishonest and wrong.

    • @tytyty1469
      @tytyty1469 5 лет назад +140

      @@why-even-try-brotendo Lugo's reaction has nothing to do with the tag, it's Meals who's making the call, not Lugo, so the comment that you made, is irrelevant.

  • @zacharysnyder2520
    @zacharysnyder2520 5 лет назад +803

    It always sucks to see galaraga get robbed.

    • @Detroit_DGAF
      @Detroit_DGAF 5 лет назад +36

      Sick to my stomach everytime.

    • @jmp92688
      @jmp92688 5 лет назад +7

      Ugf panda?

    • @Karmy.
      @Karmy. 5 лет назад +2

      Yep :(

    • @raishauntanner4206
      @raishauntanner4206 4 года назад

      Zachary Snyder facts bruh

    • @mleiblie0513
      @mleiblie0513 4 года назад +3

      I feel really bad for both Jim Joyce and Gallaraga. Jim Joyce was visibly upset the next day. Such a great moment when they met at home before the game.

  • @ericmeyer315
    @ericmeyer315 3 года назад +587

    I know I'm way late to this party, but I'm the dude who caught the ""double"" at 11:20! I was so surprised to see myself here - it's a honor to be on this channel! haha
    Also Crawford sent me a signed ball/baseball cards, plus special tickets to another game, AND I did a live interview on Giants pregame live the next day. So in conclusion: umps should blow more calls! It's good for the fans.

    • @thered28
      @thered28 3 года назад +4

      dude it is you

    • @JDizzle785
      @JDizzle785 3 года назад +2

      Wait I’m confused, what was the call?

    • @ericmeyer315
      @ericmeyer315 3 года назад +89

      @@JDizzle785 They called it a double on fan interference... so they kicked me out and took the ball away lol. On an obvious home run!

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 3 года назад +29

      How could that possibly be a double? If it bounces on the wall and stays inside the foul pole, that's still a home run, right? I can see them ruling it a foul ball, but that's still out of play, so interference is irrelevant.

    • @ericmeyer315
      @ericmeyer315 3 года назад +9

      @@Jivvi eeexactly.

  • @TheToad075
    @TheToad075 Год назад +184

    His family got death threats and his children were approached by angry Pirates fans, so basically total strangers scared his family over an insanely tough call

    • @starshipsn1511
      @starshipsn1511 Год назад

      A call which was correct

    • @gaylordrobinson1199
      @gaylordrobinson1199 Год назад

      Average pirates fans. Blaming anybody but their shit team for losing.

    • @grahmthrush4924
      @grahmthrush4924 Год назад +7

      This happens to umpires daily unfortunately. People suck.

    • @navymusician822
      @navymusician822 8 месяцев назад

      mouth-breathing psychopaths

    • @michaeldoran4367
      @michaeldoran4367 7 месяцев назад

      CHOKING HAZARD CAUSED BY 39 INCH VEINY BLACKHAWK FROM A HOMELESS MAN ON A BUS

  • @markcristino3251
    @markcristino3251 5 лет назад +1674

    Give umpires gopros on their face masks!!! Why is that not a thing????

    • @Killersam776
      @Killersam776 5 лет назад +50

      Never even thought of this

    • @Booce-db5db
      @Booce-db5db 5 лет назад +4

      Too expensive

    • @Killersam776
      @Killersam776 5 лет назад +220

      Booce1234 you mean to tell me the mlb can’t afford some gopros? There’s almost 100 umpires but you would never need more than 60 at a time. You mean to tell me the mlb couldn’t afford $20-$40k? Not only that but i’m sure they wouldn’t pay full price if they buy 100 of them. Plus gopros aren’t really the ideal camera to use. Some sort of body cam would be better and cheaper

    • @joeyjgregory790
      @joeyjgregory790 5 лет назад +99

      Because umpires remove their face masks when they make a call like that. Maybe a body cam, which isn't a bad idea...but at this time there are so many cameras at different angles, it's almost impossible to blow a call (when instant replay is used).

    • @MistaCheezySTEAM
      @MistaCheezySTEAM 5 лет назад +6

      @@Booce-db5db LMAO

  • @claym4594
    @claym4594 5 лет назад +66

    I just want everybody to know that my Dad is from Pittsburgh and my mom is from Atlanta. I live in the ATL and my birthday is the 27th, and as my birthday present, we went to the next game in the series. My parents argued about that call for AT LEAST 6 innings the next day, AND STILL FUCKING ARGUE ABOUT THAT CALL TODAY.

  • @laa0fa502
    @laa0fa502 3 года назад +103

    I feel bad for ole Jerry here, it's the MLB's fault they didn't have replay for calls this close and he'll never be as bad as some umps, he got too much heat.

  • @arugula2787
    @arugula2787 Год назад +30

    The commentator also says "not in time" and not like "he missed the tag." I think this is an underrated factor in this play's notoriety. The commentator failed to provide a plausible reason for why the runner may have been safe, instead saying something that clearly was not the case. I am absolutely convinced that the call was responsible for like 40% of the outrage. If he said "he missed the tag," viewers may have seen that this was a possibility from the beginning, but because the explanation provided was so clearly implausible, it added to the confusion and reaction.

  • @juicexyj
    @juicexyj 4 года назад +430

    11:58 the best part of this entire video. hands down.

    • @Earthboundmike
      @Earthboundmike 4 года назад +16

      Dude I didn't even notice that happen til he pointed it out there. How.

    • @Earthboundmike
      @Earthboundmike 4 года назад +8

      You can see him having to get up in the original video section lol

    • @nam6128
      @nam6128 3 года назад +4

      The 8 bit destruction sounds makes this whole clip 💀

    • @nickhancockgolf
      @nickhancockgolf 3 года назад +4

      @@nam6128 love the fade out while talking shit about Proctor. "May I remind you, he had a 6.4................"

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 3 года назад +1

      I see what you did there.

  • @RyanLendt
    @RyanLendt 5 лет назад +693

    Dude, I’m in 100 percent rapture while watching your vids. Verlanders impeccable inning was amazing. This had me laughing out loud. You rock.

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  5 лет назад +6

      Thank you Ryan :)

    • @paysonfox88
      @paysonfox88 5 лет назад +1

      The best part is the end -- he...got......wrecked !!!

  • @Chris_Izee
    @Chris_Izee 4 года назад +109

    YOOOOO THE MOST IMPRESSIVE PART IS THAT JERRY MEALS MOVED THE BAT OUT OF THE WAY AND WAS STILL RIGHT THERE TO SEE IT GO DOWN

  • @DerekS75
    @DerekS75 3 года назад +51

    I feel like he made the tag but it was so close it could have been called either way and props to the ump for making a tough call and going off what he saw

  • @Hooper-ml4om
    @Hooper-ml4om 5 лет назад +895

    They could still be playing if it wasn’t for him😂😂😂

  • @sonnyliveringhouse6876
    @sonnyliveringhouse6876 5 лет назад +177

    I remember staying up all night to watch this game with my dad and losing my damn mind over this call.

    • @dom.rockchalkjayhawk.8990
      @dom.rockchalkjayhawk.8990 4 года назад +4

      Sonny Liveringhouse but on abc mews that was really safe I would call him safe no doubt safe

    • @Stooch
      @Stooch 3 года назад +1

      also remember this game just cus of how long it was

  • @diggsfather
    @diggsfather 4 года назад +20

    12:09 john kruk said it best. “I’m not an athlete. I’m a baseball player.”

  • @Bookworm0485
    @Bookworm0485 3 года назад +126

    The only part of Lugo's leg that the catcher's glove seemingly touches is his inner thigh, which was likely just out of Meals' direct line of sight so all he sees is the glove coming up and over (and apparantly just missing) the top of Lugo's thigh. I personally think Meals' did the right thing waiting to call Lugo safe or out until he stepped on home plate without a second, more obvious tag). In all honesty the Pirates catcher is the really only person who messed up on this play. #1 the ball arrived at the plate before Lugo was even half half way down the line so he had time to properly set up the tag (i.e. positioning him self to make a clean tag, lowering his glove so that there's no chance he'll miss with the tag and holding the tag on Lugo until the call has been made) and get the easy out (and possibly turn it into a double play since the batter epically failed at running to 1st base). #2 he either fails to realise a call has not made or he just didn't care that Males' had not acutally called Lugo out when he begins to turn away to celebrate (what would have been) a huge out. #3 his situational awareness at the time of the play sucked. It's the bottom of the 19th inning, and the home team has the weakest part of their lineup coming up to bat and there's less than two outs. You know that runner is going to be coming home on any deep infield ground ball and the opposing pitcher is the batter creating the opportunity for a double play with a clean tag at the plate. He also doesn't even seem to realise that Proctor had fallen thereby ensuring an inning ending double play (he seemingly turns and looks towards third base after de-tangling from Lugo rather than first base before he heard the safe call and looked back at Males). Also, the top of the Braves lineup is coming up which makes a potential double play that much more important, because it would have given his teammates another at bat before that happened. #4 Finally, every kid who plays baseball or softball is taught fairly early on to maintain the tag until a call is made especially in a bang bang play situation such as this.
    The bottom line is that there were a lot of mistakes on the catcher's part that lead to the not so great, game ending call.

    • @alestev24
      @alestev24 2 года назад +1

      I could not agree more.

    • @yoda9256
      @yoda9256 2 года назад +1

      he tagged him. where is this the catchers fault?

    • @thatoneguy9666
      @thatoneguy9666 Год назад +4

      @@yoda9256 he didn’t make the tag clear

    • @DaveS859
      @DaveS859 Год назад +1

      @@yoda9256 change your profile pic to a Muppet

    • @kaidansheehan7484
      @kaidansheehan7484 Год назад +2

      Agree with most of it, but players are taught to get the glove out of the way once they make a tag to keep the ball from getting knocked out of the glove, not hold it and wait for a call

  • @pirana6
    @pirana6 5 лет назад +280

    If 2011 didn't have high enough definition video and MLB didn't have enough video angles to DEFINITIVELY say he was tagged or DEFINITIVELY say he wasn't, there's no way you can say this was a horrible call. Just because the ball gets to the plate before the runner doesn't mean he's automatically out. Was he out? Probably. But it was a VERY close call.

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  5 лет назад +55

      I think this comment reflects my sentiment exactly. If a bang-bang play at first is milliseconds away from safe or out, it's seen as an incredibly close play. But when it's a matter of a glove being millimeters away from a knee, people act like it's the most obvious thing in the world.

    • @afhostie
      @afhostie 5 лет назад +15

      @@FoolishBaseball so much of that is fueled by this play being so routine that you focus only on the big picture. Combine that with the bad angles and its easy to assume the call was bad.
      Not enough credit goes to refs, split second calls where they're expected to see everything all at the same time.

    • @pauljosephdial1966
      @pauljosephdial1966 5 лет назад

      Yeah but still

    • @jayit6851
      @jayit6851 5 лет назад +12

      @J H You act like that means something. 2011 was a lot more different than you may realize.

    • @davidprince1138
      @davidprince1138 5 лет назад +2

      I agree! That is what I had just posted. Also, in many of these "blown calls\bad umpires" clips the action sequences are literally in centiseconds and even then we can see them only because the recordings can be slowed down and zoomed in with very high definition recordings.

  • @jamesnelson760
    @jamesnelson760 5 лет назад +732

    THANK YOU for using pokemon 2nd gen music! Made it epic

    • @PurpleMuleMan
      @PurpleMuleMan 5 лет назад +12

      The most amazing thing about this video

    • @coolguy02536
      @coolguy02536 5 лет назад +4

      I was too focused on the video to even notice until you pointed it out.

    • @yap09
      @yap09 5 лет назад +10

      clicked on this video while playing heart gold, wtf

    • @radieon
      @radieon 5 лет назад

      Was there some first gen in there?

    • @TheAmpharosFreak
      @TheAmpharosFreak 5 лет назад

      radieon no

  • @RosserJackson
    @RosserJackson 3 года назад +10

    I love the sound effects when Proctor takes his tumble.

  • @namelessrocker12
    @namelessrocker12 4 года назад +444

    The slower it’s played the clearer it is that it was almost definitely the correct call

    • @fallen4life080
      @fallen4life080 4 года назад +62

      Funny cause to me the slower its played the clearer it becomes to me that he was out. Some have said that the fold on his pant leg where the glove "touches" it is just from the momentum and movement of his body that creates the folds in his uniform, but to me that's just too much of a coincidence that a fold happens to occur at that exact spot right as the glove touches the leg. Also not to mention that the runner was surprised he was called safe, runners are quick to tell an umpire that no tag was made. My verdict is: Umpire was correct on his examination of the replay, runner was out.

    • @seankiesling2054
      @seankiesling2054 3 года назад +4

      "Almost definitely" nice

    • @carlsmith4568
      @carlsmith4568 3 года назад +10

      @@fallen4life080 you're blind then. The pro ump who was two feet is much more credible than you. He saw no tag, so I believe him.

    • @noahhess4955
      @noahhess4955 3 года назад

      Is your profile pic from the Spyro trilogy game?

    • @deesh1124
      @deesh1124 2 года назад

      @@carlsmith4568 Why be such an asshole for no reason, guy? He provided solid, easily understandable logic to his argument and all you have to say is “you’re blind, he saw it and that’s that.” No logic, no argument, just being an insufferable prick. When Angel Hernandez misses a call by crazy margins (3+” off the plate strike calls, calls guy safe when his foot is like 10” off the bag when the ball is caught), and furthermore when (some of) these calls are REPLAY REVIEWED AND REVERSED, do you say “he’s the pro, he saw it, he’s right”? No, because that would be stupid for 2 reasons:
      1. Replay review is there for a reason, to make sure the correct call is made if/when an ump makes a mistake
      2. The evidence is usually conclusive, and as such, they make the call based on that.
      I know they didn’t have replay review at the time, but for me, with the camera angles we saw here and the video playing, everything that guy said was right: the glove moved right as it “passed” his leg.
      (P.S., the word “blind” is normally used when someone *doesn’t* see something that’s there, so maybe *you’re* the blind one?🤔)

  • @sadbravesfan
    @sadbravesfan 5 лет назад +322

    Dang they played so long McCutchen even had to pitch.

    • @missysager5047
      @missysager5047 5 лет назад +5

      It wasn't Andrew Mcuchen you stupid

    • @yourthighness273
      @yourthighness273 5 лет назад +86

      @@missysager5047 My guy it's a joke *whoosh*

    • @jbj7599
      @jbj7599 5 лет назад +6

      @@yourthighness273 a stupid joke that was used in the video itself, how clever

    • @wexfordbuccos_7161
      @wexfordbuccos_7161 5 лет назад +4

      aquariex24 Daniel McCutcheon. An actual pitcher. Not Andrew McCutchen the outfielder

    • @jimmyywutang832
      @jimmyywutang832 5 лет назад +2

      @missy safer @Wexfordbuccos _
      r/wooooooooooooooosh

  • @brianlavalley3983
    @brianlavalley3983 4 года назад +640

    Everyone else: "Wow, really cool and informative video, thanks"
    Me: *jamming out to pokemon music*

    • @siralexander12
      @siralexander12 4 года назад +1

      Yesssssss

    • @SoOoWaVyYy39
      @SoOoWaVyYy39 4 года назад +1

      Realest shit I've ever read 😂😂😂

    • @bemoore4
      @bemoore4 4 года назад +1

      The music is ruining this video for me. I simply can't stand that type of music (but I don't play video games).

    • @rileye9358
      @rileye9358 4 года назад +23

      @@bemoore4 damn that sucks. Guess you'll have to deal with it

    • @greedx__
      @greedx__ 4 года назад +1

      hell yeah

  • @jackpatton4291
    @jackpatton4291 3 года назад +14

    I’m here after braves vs Phillies and this has to challenge that

  • @334outdoors8
    @334outdoors8 3 года назад +26

    This is more relevant than ever to a Braves fan

  • @skiplin1888
    @skiplin1888 5 лет назад +361

    You remind me a lot of Jon bois. Your videos are just amazing I really do love them as a fanatic of baseball. Please keep making them they are art

    • @samswanson1293
      @samswanson1293 5 лет назад +6

      Yes jon bois made some of the best videos I have ever seen, his “pretty good” series was incredible, to bad his vids now are just not the same

    • @radieon
      @radieon 5 лет назад +3

      I'm not a fan of baseball, but he and Jon Bois have similarities which is why I persevered through the video, and I am glad I did. Great content, keep up the good work!

    • @lam8138
      @lam8138 5 лет назад

      Nik Gâ the Bob Emergency is pretty good

    • @jacksonballa13
      @jacksonballa13 5 лет назад +1

      Jon Bois is an actual communist

    • @lam8138
      @lam8138 5 лет назад

      Mark what

  • @bodenbratley995
    @bodenbratley995 5 лет назад +91

    Love the Pokemon Gold/Silver music behind baseball

  • @zacharybachand7023
    @zacharybachand7023 3 года назад +3

    Totally appreciated hearing the Golden Rod City music. That was my favorite town in Silver Version just for the music.

  • @ygf377
    @ygf377 10 месяцев назад +8

    I think that the way lugo reacted to the call shows that he was out as if he did avoid the tag he would have been less surprised. However I can definitely agree that the call was closer than it seems

    • @erikwebster1608
      @erikwebster1608 9 месяцев назад +2

      This has always been my viewpoint. His body language tells the whole story, u don’t react like that if u know you weren’t tagged, you react like that if u know u WERE tagged

    • @Combatant5
      @Combatant5 9 месяцев назад +1

      Also possible he assumed because of how close it was he'd be incorrectly called for the tag and was surprised the call would be correct. If surprise can come from a bad call, it can also equally come from the correct one.

    • @mr.brenman2132
      @mr.brenman2132 8 месяцев назад

      ​@@erikwebster1608He looks like he can't believe the guy missed the tag.

  • @neilpavao7348
    @neilpavao7348 5 лет назад +107

    6:30 hr's? sound's like a 9 inning Red Sox -Yankees game.

  • @andrewb4544
    @andrewb4544 5 лет назад +974

    Am I still the only one that thinks he didn’t tag him?

  • @jaredchacon2645
    @jaredchacon2645 4 года назад +48

    OH MY GOD, HE MISSED THE TAG

  • @chaseplayz6069
    @chaseplayz6069 4 года назад +2

    Really underrated for how much work he probably put in this video

  • @TheJudge7
    @TheJudge7 4 года назад +276

    With my first look at the abc footage I thought he was safe

    • @baez18
      @baez18 4 года назад +2

      So stupid I understand why you don't play baseball

    • @courtneycooper1448
      @courtneycooper1448 3 года назад +25

      @@baez18 Its someone's opinion what they think.I play baseball and my decision is hes safe but its not good enough quality to 100% say he is or isn't

    • @BoHorn
      @BoHorn 3 года назад +5

      jojo baezツ youre like 11... you dont play baseball either. Aside from that, completely irrelevant to the matter at hand.

    • @elijahrincon3586
      @elijahrincon3586 3 года назад

      @@baez18 thats the samething I’m thinking

    • @strudel1347
      @strudel1347 2 года назад

      @@baez18 not old enough to be playing real baseball little guy, sit down

  • @RC.41
    @RC.41 5 лет назад +138

    There have been 25 perfect games in history. The 23 official ones + Milt Pappas and Armando Galarraga

    • @brendan594
      @brendan594 5 лет назад

      Rob Fowler yep

    • @donwhiteley3293
      @donwhiteley3293 4 года назад +18

      Eh, Galarraga yes, but Pappas legitimately walked the 27th hitter. Pappas just got angry that the umpire didn't get caught up in "perfect game mania" and give him a call on a pitch that was about 4 inches high and 6 inches outside.

    • @themacocko6311
      @themacocko6311 4 года назад

      @@donwhiteley3293 I'm not familiar with this. What happened with Galarraga game?

    • @donwhiteley3293
      @donwhiteley3293 4 года назад +15

      @@themacocko6311 Galarraga retired the 1st 26 Indians that came to the plate. With 2 outs in the 9th, Jason Donald hit a ground ball that Tigers' 1B Miguel Cabrera fielded in the hole between 1st and 2nd (and probably should have let the 2B handle while he covered first). Cabrera threw to Galarraga covering 1st and the game should have been over. BUUUTTT . . . 1B umpire Jim Joyce called Donald safe saying he beat the throw even though he clearly hadn't. You can find the clip on youtube and see how badly the call was bungled. To make matters worse, since Joyce had ruled that Donald beat the throw instead of Galarraga missing the base or being pulled off the base by the throw, the official scorer was forced to call it an infield single which ruined the no-hitter in addition to robbing him of a perfect game. Galarraga then retired the next hitter to cap his official 1-hit ShO.

    • @jagreene8
      @jagreene8 4 года назад +2

      I hate you JOE FREAKIN WEST

  • @jimmeeks320
    @jimmeeks320 4 года назад

    I love all your videos man!!! The graphics and the music is awesome!!

  • @emilgilels
    @emilgilels 2 года назад

    Great job, Foolish Baseball.
    Love your stuff, keep up the great work!

  • @user-mv6kb4kp1v
    @user-mv6kb4kp1v 5 лет назад +138

    I like this video because this video is like MLB TV show

  • @ethanyaboy9003
    @ethanyaboy9003 4 года назад +75

    When I clicked on this vid I thought it would all be Angel Hernandez clips

    • @theunwelcome
      @theunwelcome 4 года назад +7

      his no-HR call on Adam Rosales is still one of the worst calls I've ever seen, and he even went to the replay and STILL called it a double

    • @bigl5343
      @bigl5343 3 года назад

      @@theunwelcome when reviewed the decision is made by umpires in a New York based review platform. I can see why Hernandez missed the initial call in real time due to how the ball bounced. I am not defending Angel's consistent poor performance, but this one is on the review crew. I do not know what they saw, it obviously was a homer. Why does the MLB have a third party review? The crew chief should be responsible for reviewing the crews own calls and make the verdict.

  • @olemissman2012
    @olemissman2012 3 года назад +20

    This might be my bias as a Braves fan talking but I will to this day believe that he had a ghost tag on him. I thought he was out originally and Jerry Meals blew it but once I saw the second angle the broadcast showed (in real time cause I stayed up to watch the ending) I was like “Wow he really might’ve missed that tag.”

    • @iamoctonate
      @iamoctonate 9 месяцев назад

      Its a pretty sussy tag at best. It really gives off two kids playing tag and one kid just barely touching the other kid's shirt and claiming they tagged them squarely.

  • @CameronCajun
    @CameronCajun 3 года назад

    Dude, great video! I never, never, never would have known about the Proctor face-plant if it weren't for your vid. I was having one of those crappy, hot-ass, muggy days, too --- terrible! It turned on a dime seeing Proctor turn base running into a chalk-eating contest! My day turned clear, sunny, with a little breeze on the cheek after that. Appreciate it!

  • @goskateminnesota7256
    @goskateminnesota7256 5 лет назад +49

    I think some Braves fans might be more pissed about a call at 1st base with Kent Hrbek and the Twins in the world series back in 91. Hrbek pulled Ron Gant off the bag and onto the ground. Ump called him out and the twins went on to win the world series.

    • @bama-kid-1453
      @bama-kid-1453 5 лет назад +1

      Yeah that call was horrible

    • @heijac2998
      @heijac2998 5 лет назад

      Gives us twins fans a good laugh tho when we watch it back 😂

    • @freeparking301
      @freeparking301 4 года назад +3

      Something something Lonnie Smith...something something...

    • @TheTerranscout
      @TheTerranscout 4 года назад

      And pirates fans might be more pissed about Sid's slide....

  • @T43B1GD0G
    @T43B1GD0G 5 лет назад +136

    It's still not an obvious tag with every other camera angle

    • @dom.rockchalkjayhawk.8990
      @dom.rockchalkjayhawk.8990 4 года назад +1

      Zack Stout wind can also move a pant leg

    • @Jon23189
      @Jon23189 4 года назад +2

      Look at the glove bend. Clear tag

    • @AzureRaven2
      @AzureRaven2 4 года назад +5

      @@Jon23189 The glove bent because the catcher was literally holding the glove bent and then very quickly swipe his arm across. It's just not definitive, and he explains that.

    • @NCA_Azzy
      @NCA_Azzy 4 года назад +6

      Meals is legit the only one pretending he's safe.
      Runner, out.
      Catcher, out.
      Us in the stands, out.
      Announcers, out.

    • @Cosmic_Cretin
      @Cosmic_Cretin 4 года назад +4

      @@NCA_Azzy it was a different time dude, Baseball was all about gimmes back in the day, modern baseball has eliminated the neighborhood play but back in the day if you got beat to the plate or bag you were out, a glove/foot just had to be close enough. It was part of baseball culture for the longest time, If I got beat to the plate but didn't feel a tag I would assume I was still out because it was close enough and I got beat, regardless of whether I was actually tagged. Same goes for bases, fielders used to not even touch the bags, just as long as they were close enough and beat the runner he was called out, and everyone just accepted that. Its only recently with great video that full tags and base touches have to be made, so recent that sometimes runners think they are out because it was different when they grew up with gimme plays. When you had no good video, it was based on honour and if the play was close it was just a matter of who got there first.

  • @martoto77
    @martoto77 Год назад +9

    Serves the catcher right for doing that high follow through action thing on the tag. Just get the man and don’t give the ump a chance to miss your “tag”.

    • @Darthtanos
      @Darthtanos Год назад

      i *THINK* that might have been to avoid a collision that could have jarred the ball loose, resulting in a safe call anyway. because that's a pretty common thing, at least in my admittedly limited experience.

    • @martoto77
      @martoto77 Год назад

      @@Darthtanos I think it’s just an affectation that’s intended to make the tag look cool.

    • @Darthtanos
      @Darthtanos Год назад

      @@martoto77 catchers are trained to make sure they don't lose the ball in that kind of situation, that's why when it's not their body being involved, they don't really try for collisions in general.

  • @macthepatriot1484
    @macthepatriot1484 2 года назад

    Young Foolish Baseball, I love it! We got to get back the Boss Fight part in future Baseball Bits episodes though.

  • @tomzaatar3532
    @tomzaatar3532 5 лет назад +54

    Really Excited to see new type of baseball content. Usually new things aren't this great!

  • @Beenman2210
    @Beenman2210 5 лет назад +13

    I remember watching this game live I just assumed the ump was tired and wanted to go home lol

  • @OGPapatron
    @OGPapatron 2 года назад

    Very well polished, Bailey! Great video

  • @jro182
    @jro182 3 года назад +1

    The Pokémon game boy song in the background was the best part of this video. Obviously your analysis and fact provided are spot on (as always) but the Pokémon theme song is amazing.

  • @kablooey60
    @kablooey60 4 года назад +37

    I remember being like 7 years old awake in my parents room at 2 AM witnessing the end of it. I fell asleep multiple times throughout the game, but still woke up to the game being on. Wildest game of baseball I've ever witnessed.

    • @willeodsson
      @willeodsson 3 года назад +1

      I turned the radio on while in bed during the 7th inning. When me dad told me to turn it off and go to sleep, I turned it down and stayed up, and boy am I glad I did! The Braves announcers were just as stunned! I can remember exactly how they summed it up: "He was thrown out, but he was safe!"

  • @davidgraney3413
    @davidgraney3413 4 года назад +30

    I'm a Bucos fan (one of the few of us lol) and I remember this game. I like 98% of the world lost my shit over this call until the post game when the ump talked about the play and it made sense but I was still salty.

  • @JB77776
    @JB77776 3 года назад +16

    In 2021 we have instant replay and still can't make the right calls.

  • @ryanpacatte6054
    @ryanpacatte6054 3 года назад +10

    I would actually think he was safe if it wasn’t for the shocked reaction from the runner who scored. Of course the runner could’ve been shocked he missed the tag but I doubt it

    • @Imugi007
      @Imugi007 Год назад +2

      He would've felt the catchers arm hit him because it did, but the glove never did. He might've thought the arm hitting him was the glove.

    • @TintagelEmrys
      @TintagelEmrys 10 месяцев назад

      I wouldn't be surprised if a lot of the time, they fill in the blanks. The ball beat him there, it came down, he felt something touch him. To him, it matched everything he would expect from a tag, he probably wasn't looking at the glove.

  • @Retired_Detective51
    @Retired_Detective51 5 лет назад +154

    Are we going to ignore Lugo’s reaction? He seems genuinely surprised that he was called safe. Which suggests that he knew that he had been tagged. He didn’t try to sell that the tag was missed. I think that’s a very important part of this video that was overlooked. Having said that, this channel is full of very high-quality content very much enjoy. Keep up the good work.

    • @seamus4132
      @seamus4132 5 лет назад +7

      Except he felt the arm of the guy on the swipe up, not the leg contact

    • @butler4692
      @butler4692 5 лет назад +22

      Real Detective51 that’s not necessarily true, he may have just figured from the Umps point of view hd looked out and it wasn’t gonna be worth fighting

    • @michaelorrett1737
      @michaelorrett1737 5 лет назад +10

      And there are a lot of sports players that try not to affect the umpires judgement by celebrating too soon as it’s kind of unsportsmanlike. I digress though

    • @cuchullian321
      @cuchullian321 5 лет назад +20

      That's flawed logic. He probably knew the ball beat him there. If he was tagged, it was probably on his clothing. Which you don't feel. His surprise is more about the fact the ball beat him then whether he knew he was tagged or not.

    • @Retired_Detective51
      @Retired_Detective51 5 лет назад +4

      cuchullian321 you absolutely can feel your clothes when they’re tagged.

  • @stephenmason9527
    @stephenmason9527 5 лет назад +66

    Best video yet, love the idea and the execution was top notch. About the call, it is at the very least plausible that the tag was not applied and so I absolve the umpire on those grounds. If he'd have given any other reason than that then no but even if he actually tagged him, as it appears he did, it was very brief

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  5 лет назад +1

      Thank you much. I really appreciate your thoughtful comments.

  • @DjDobleU809
    @DjDobleU809 3 года назад +8

    This music made me feel like I was about to take on the Elite Four..

  • @mackickinback3649
    @mackickinback3649 4 года назад +1

    I expected this video to be interesting, but it was actually way more interesting than I thought it would be. Thank you for this one, it’s good

  • @Decetop
    @Decetop 4 года назад +54

    I agree with what Meals said first. The glove moves in a single sweep upward, not stopping or slowing in any way that would indicate contact.

  • @joshuadoll9000
    @joshuadoll9000 5 лет назад +17

    I can't say for certain whether or not the call was correct, it looks way too close to call from the video, but I think it just goes to show how quick people and players can dismiss the tag. In a lot of people's minds it's all about the ball beating the player to the plate (which is certainly true when it's a forced play) when the tag is just as important. In Meals' shoes, I could definitely see there being a solid argument for a missed tag. I've certainly called some like that, much to the glee of the runner and the dismay of the infielder, but at the end of the day, it's a split second play that you get to see once. It can all happen so fast that there is always going to be some mistakes and there is going to be controversy around the call regardless of whether it is deemed the right call or the wrong call.
    Edit: I also agree that Meals shouldn't have apologized. He probably was pressured to by the MLB to do so and may have for his own guilty conscience. There are times where I have doubted my own calls, even when I was certain at the time I was making the right one. The next day, thinking about it again, can make you feel guilty about it, especially when it was the deciding factor in the game. It can be hard to shake that doubt sometimes and that may have been why he apologized, as well as the outrage that people had about the call. With that many people telling you that you were wrong, you may start to believe them, even if you were right. Everyone said it was so definitive because no one wanted to take a minute to look at it objectively and review the evidence. They probably wouldn't have come to the conclusion that it was 100% a missed tag, but I bet they wouldn't have come to the conclusion that it was a 100% clear as day tag either. The MLB and maybe even Meals himself were in damage control (as you stated) and just wanted to appease the fans. Maybe Meals truly believes he made the right call, but he had to apologize just to try and appease the fans and stop a riot from happening (figuratively speaking). I'm sure Meals' family as well as Meals probably received some nasty messages and maybe even a few threats. All it takes is for the majority of people to believe you made one wrong call and your credibility could be trashed (again regardless of whether it was actually correct or not) and the thousands of correct calls you made before are forgotten or called into question and any call you make afterwards may be questioned and not trusted. It really is a shit storm and that may have been what Meals was trying to avoid. I'm sure it was a big enough mess for Meals as it went down anyways, he probably didn't want the headache of standing by his call and trying to defend it.

  • @ldj7039
    @ldj7039 4 года назад

    Loving the GSC soundtrack in the background. You’ve earned yourself a subscriber.

  • @norcross411
    @norcross411 2 года назад +1

    I remember watching this entire game as a kid. For 12 years I have thought this call was so ludicrous but as a braves fan, in the moment I was in a combination of disbelief and joy, thinking we stole the game on this call. Amazing you did a whole video on it

  • @drewseph8787
    @drewseph8787 5 лет назад +14

    There’s also the play where he was called out after the first baseman was 3 feet off the bag

    • @zachkeene212
      @zachkeene212 4 года назад +2

      Todd helton won a Grammy for his acting on that play😂

  • @johnathanzielinski4084
    @johnathanzielinski4084 4 года назад +215

    it’s so much closer than everyone makes it out to be. i’m glad to finally found someone who agrees with me

  • @Stooch
    @Stooch 3 года назад +6

    who remembers staying up watching this? I was there but left in the 13th inning

  • @ganondorfthegrey5325
    @ganondorfthegrey5325 4 года назад

    I love the music in your vids dude. Good stuff.

  • @austincross3001
    @austincross3001 5 лет назад +5

    Yeah, I watched this when it first aired (I was about fifteen). I always just chalked it up to Meals being tired and wanting to go home, but that camera angle from center really gave me a new perspective on it.

  • @iankidd7225
    @iankidd7225 5 лет назад +5

    OMG Laughing so hard I was crying about Scott Proctor eating it at the end of your well crafted vid 😂

  • @sean9520
    @sean9520 3 года назад

    I’ve watched all these baseball bits videos many times and I think this one stands as the funniest and best one. Haha Scott Proctor

  • @blindingshadows2338
    @blindingshadows2338 4 года назад +14

    love the old Pokemon music in the background, and I remember staying up and watching this game. As a braves fan its one of the few times a call actually went our way.

  • @jacobbyrd8737
    @jacobbyrd8737 5 лет назад +24

    I thought he was out based on his own reaction. He acted surprised that he got called safe

  • @ryanvisbeck5867
    @ryanvisbeck5867 5 лет назад +8

    Easily one of the most enjoyable baseball videos I've ever seen. More like this!

    • @FoolishBaseball
      @FoolishBaseball  5 лет назад +1

      Ryan Visbeck Thanks man. I have some ideas I‘m cooking up.

  • @UltimateViper
    @UltimateViper 5 месяцев назад +1

    Scott Proctor attempts worlds longest slide to 1st base in the 19th inning

  • @n16161
    @n16161 4 года назад

    This is an awesome video man!

  • @scory22
    @scory22 5 лет назад +5

    Love the music you used in this vid, never thought I’d hear Pokémon music in a baseball analysis video.

  • @whalesequence
    @whalesequence 5 лет назад +94

    I thought the worst call was the infield fly in the braves cardinals wild card game

    • @robertdouth8979
      @robertdouth8979 5 лет назад +1

      I have a hard time calling that the worst call only because infield fly is a judgment call. I remember at the time it was hit I automatically though infield fly and at first it looked he was going to get it easily, then either the wind knocked it around a bunch or he never really had it, but the onus is on the umpire to call that kind of thing quickly to give runners a proper chance to either tag up or advance at their own risk.

    • @brandongerber1999
      @brandongerber1999 5 лет назад +10

      You mean the correct call in the Cardinals/Braves game? No where does it say an infield fly has to be in the infield.

    • @deathbymonkey69
      @deathbymonkey69 5 лет назад +14

      Brandon Gerber that’s like saying there’s no written rule that boy scouts are only for boys. It’s in the name. BOY scouts. INFIELD fly.

    • @zeke1220
      @zeke1220 5 лет назад +4

      @@deathbymonkey69 Isn't "Boy Scouts" being changed to "Scouts BSA" and admitting girls starting next month?

    • @coolguy02536
      @coolguy02536 5 лет назад

      You can clearly see that at the start of the video...

  • @skylarruprecht1257
    @skylarruprecht1257 4 года назад +3

    Eh, you can definitely see the tag, and in fact, there appears to be two distinct tags, one on the leg, and one when he swipes up afterward. This would be a bad call if not reversed under modern standards

  • @bigcod14
    @bigcod14 3 года назад +4

    Update the call last night was worse than history Braves phillies

  • @gatesofosiris4756
    @gatesofosiris4756 5 лет назад +65

    Love this video. I always thought he missed the tag.

    • @jimbo-fk4dq
      @jimbo-fk4dq 5 лет назад +5

      I figure it's bound to happen, after watching 6 hours of baseball. You're so wore out, you're bound to just miss the call.

    • @patrickperry8951
      @patrickperry8951 5 лет назад +2

      Looked like he missed the tag

    • @nathanrobinson1099
      @nathanrobinson1099 5 лет назад +3

      He did not, he tagged him on the leg.

    • @BollocksUtwat
      @BollocksUtwat 4 года назад

      @@nathanrobinson1099 Grainy video is more definitive than umpire eyes 2 feet away? I dunno.

    • @RatatRatR
      @RatatRatR 4 года назад

      That's like saying umpires never get anything wrong. Of course they do.

  • @peterelder9894
    @peterelder9894 5 лет назад +5

    As a Pirates fan this was the worst moment of my fan career

  • @rosenscharf
    @rosenscharf 4 года назад

    Love your videos!

  • @jacobgill143
    @jacobgill143 2 года назад +4

    Never knew about the relief pitcher eating it right out of the batter's box, so thank you for that! I mostly agree with everything. I think the one thing you could've touched on was the base runner's reaction and subsequent interview after the game. If I remember right, he never admitted to being tagged, but his reaction from the play wasn't exactly one where he believed himself that he never got tagged. Regardless, you are right that the call is actually much closer than anyone gives it credit for.

    • @bubba200874426
      @bubba200874426 2 года назад +1

      At the same time, if all the catcher got was a wrinkle of pants there wouldn't be anything to feel, and a professional baseball player would probably assume another professional baseball player didn't fuck up.

    • @jakestine4753
      @jakestine4753 Год назад +1

      yeah, as a player running full tilt and then diving through someone else, there's no way Lugo knows whether he got tagged or just made contact with the catchers legs as he tries to block home. Sure he'd assume he got tagged because he knew the throw beat him - but not for feeling it. It's just the natural assumption because that's usually what happens when you get beat by the throw.

  • @wsbill14224
    @wsbill14224 4 года назад +3

    I remember hearing about this game on the radio the next day but I never saw it until now. It's hard to tell if the catcher made the tag or not. If he did, he barely touched him, and as he brought his arm up it was clear he was inches away. The ump had the best view and raised his left arm while the runner was arguing with him as if to say "You missed the tag!" That's how it looked to me. Good call ump!

  • @chriskelly1906
    @chriskelly1906 2 года назад +54

    I’ve always been skeptical of this “bad call” because it always looked like the tag was missed, however the one thing that changes is my mind, and I’m surprised that the video didn’t touch upon was Lugo’s reaction. We all know if we’ve been tagged and if we haven’t. Lugo was as surprised as everyone else at the call which tells me he definitely felt the tag.

    • @elijahcademartori9854
      @elijahcademartori9854 2 года назад +14

      He also made contact with the catcher which could throw off his feel for the tag. Honestly I'm surprised the catcher wasn't called for interference anyway.

    • @armadillolover99
      @armadillolover99 2 года назад +9

      @@elijahcademartori9854 At the time of this play, it wasn’t considered obstruction to block the plate this way. It only became so after the league implemented the Buster Posey Rule in 2014

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 2 года назад

      9:32 He definitely knew he should have been out.

    • @sneersh9107
      @sneersh9107 2 года назад +10

      Idk if we can assume that, sometimes players don't react how you'd think. It could be that the throw beat him by so much that he automatically assumed he was out and couldn't believe there'd be any way he was safe, even if he was

    • @Earthboundmike
      @Earthboundmike Год назад +1

      @@Jivvi I mean he should have been out, but I mean, if he didn't actually tag the guy... that's insanely close. The catcher could have easily gotten a GOOD tag.

  • @purple12701
    @purple12701 3 года назад

    Bailey, I mean this in the nicest way possible, THANK GOD YOU UPGRADED THE MICROPHONE. Regardless, still an awesome video

  • @charziard35
    @charziard35 2 года назад

    I love how you use Pokémon music in the back of your videos, it works surprisingly well

  • @oaktree1290
    @oaktree1290 5 лет назад +25

    Never been a fan of the swing tag. Just hold the glove on the runner.

    • @greatestmlg5566
      @greatestmlg5566 5 лет назад

      op bearer bruh you’re supposed to swing when there close

    • @caniac1230
      @caniac1230 5 лет назад

      you swipe tag to prevent injury. your wrist can get caught into a sliding player

  • @ralphus44
    @ralphus44 5 лет назад +8

    Nope, I think the call DOES get overturned in the replay challenge. They would have looked at that close up of the glove touching the pants leg and concluded he was out.

    • @borderlinebaseball5852
      @borderlinebaseball5852 5 лет назад

      ralphus44 the front view tho shows an ole’ tag with no definitive evidence. Call stands ball game

    • @BollocksUtwat
      @BollocksUtwat 4 года назад +1

      Video replay norms say that unless the video evidence is incontrovertible you can't overturn the call. Now unless the new higher quality video we'd have today would show something different I don't think there's anything definitive in the video.

  • @georgeramirez2099
    @georgeramirez2099 4 года назад

    I'm living for the pokemon music in this video. Great job 👌🏾

  • @chromasis10
    @chromasis10 3 года назад +1

    This was really interesting and went into lots of depth

  • @DaDitka
    @DaDitka 3 года назад +3

    This is definitely a very close one. Man, I don't know. But I want to thank you for this video, as it did give me a new perspective on the call.
    I honestly don't know if I agree with you or not, but you gave me something to think about. Thank you.

  • @alpine3931
    @alpine3931 5 лет назад +13

    Thank God somebody commented about this it’s so tough to see the contact on the tag

  • @julesthierry5529
    @julesthierry5529 3 года назад

    Man I'm late af but your editing is god tier I swear

  • @brandonwade8094
    @brandonwade8094 4 года назад

    Man, this channel is great

  • @user-mm1es3hk5c
    @user-mm1es3hk5c 5 лет назад +7

    the worst call is cozart being called out called safe when he was out because the marlin catcher "blocked home plate"

    • @jaydesrochers3276
      @jaydesrochers3276 5 лет назад +1

      beastly boy that is NOT REAL BASEBALL...modern baseball is a joke

    • @mrsatire9475
      @mrsatire9475 5 лет назад

      "The Replay Official judged that the catcher did not provide a lane to the runner and hindered his path to the plate without possession of the ball,'' MLB's statement said

    • @shadytnu24
      @shadytnu24 5 лет назад

      THIS. 100 percent. I am not blaming him for getting hurt on the play, but Buster Posey breaking the most fundamental rule of catching when there's a play at the plate (namely, keep your feet) directly led to the most unnecessarily stupid rule in baseball.
      It was always illegal to block the plate without the ball. Technically, it is still legal to run over the catcher if he has the ball, and it never was legal to go out of your way to hit him if he didn't. The rule literally changed nothing except to add a layer of extra ambiguity.

  • @theaviator1152
    @theaviator1152 4 года назад +5

    Well, here’s another thing. McHenry may have even simply touched Lugo’s pant leg and not applied pressure to his actual leg. I’ve seen plays in which a runner’s helmet is tagged as it’s falling off of their head and they are called safe.

    • @Jivvi
      @Jivvi 3 года назад

      A tag counts if it touches "any part of his body, his clothing or equipment." (from rule 2.0)
      A tag on a helmet in the process of falling off may not count, depending on whether the umpire judges that he was still wearing it at the time of the tag, but pants definitely count.
      Also, his name is McKenry.

  • @twoAMsushi
    @twoAMsushi 4 года назад +2

    If anything the blame should rest on the catcher. In the live-action footage it looks like he sweeps his glove missing the leg. He could have used the second that the runner did not touch the plate to apply a confirmation tag, as opposed to assuming that the out was called. He makes the sweep, with a 98% chance of being seen as a miss then goes about his day.

    • @jakestine4753
      @jakestine4753 Год назад

      Exactly. I frequently see catchers repeatedly tag runners in almost silly OCD sort of ways. And this video is evidence why they should.

  • @rsswilliams2866
    @rsswilliams2866 2 года назад

    thank you for being brave enough to address this matter. you risked alot.