Too much focus on the bhp drop, but not enough on the entire concept. This bike is meant for the street and it's in the sweetspot for that now. If you want a naked track monster go for the V4 honestly.
@@hallmountfilms Yes and in case you didn't watch the full vid, video, I said the same thing. I bet this bike is going to be great. Ducati never let me down. But for me, I prefer a bigger more powerful bike like my streetfighter V4S and now Diavel V4.
Disagree. It's taking two ends, the V2 panigale and the Supersport 950s. By meeting in the middle it feels like it loses the best from both. I want an adjustable windscreen, higher handlebars, and a single sided swingarm. I'm now stuck with just the RS660 until Triumph comes out with a full fairing Street Triple. It sucks.
@@hallmountfilms replacing the 950s means the new V2 will still be more aggressive. Its the wrong direction I want as a rider. They're eliminating the 950s.
I think Ducati is actually being smart here. First off, in 2027, new MotoGP dispacement restrictions come into play, 850 cc , max bore 75 mm . What wins on Sundays sells on Monday. The other problem is that the manufacturers can produce decent 800-900 cc machines for $12,000 to $15,000. Panagale V4's going for $30 k. And BMW M1000 RR for $25 _28 k. This is simply beyond the reach of most motorcycle enthusiasts. So you have very limited market. Look at the Japanese and KTM all the 800 to 947cc parallel twins and triples. They sell the hell out of these bike ranges. To be honest, for just pure riding pleasure in the sports segment , give me a twistie road and a nimble, less than a 400 lbs fueled bike.. for touring and such larger displacement, heavier machines just work better. So, the new V2 scheme to me is an effort to serve this market. It's all about putting up numbers or your sales based upon selling V4's will fall off. Plus, these less expensive machines create tomorrow's demand for the V4 machines within your brand. If you attract entry riders in, and you give them a pleasant experience, they will come back for more. For me, it is KTM , I got my first one in 2014 , and I'm five deep after 10 years with two in my stable as of this post. A 2020 , 1290 SAS, and a 2022 1290 SDR EVO. SO kudos to Ducati. You need a pipeline.
I have the Monster 937 which I love, but was thinking of going to the SFV2 within the next year. Wanted the bump in HP and the SS swing arm. Unfortunately now I will just keep my Monster or have to find the older model which will prob be scarce by then.
The Streetfighter V4 is a great upgrade from the Monster. But I've been missing my Monster since I sold it. :o| But if you're on the bigger side (I'm 6'1" and about 215 lbs), the SF V4 would be good.
The SS swingarm is overrated. Hanging onto it when a better one is available, is putting form over function... People keep going on about the peak power, so clearly performance is their primary desire, but then they are willing to put the look of the single sided swingarm over the newer better performing one?
Just replaced my Multistrada V2S engine (937cc) with this new engine, the torque curve and weight reduction will make it great for the road and it’ll handle like a dream.
Always good content. Ducati builds bikes to win races. The DSSA is for track feedback. Weight loss is always better than power gain for track handling. Brakes win on track. The faster you can shed speed and set your line, the faster you can get back on the throttle. The new Panigale is really a great bike for the street. It will be the biggest competition for the new R9. My only curiosity is what will set the street fighter apart from a monster SP besides styling. I own a 21 monster and absolutely love everything about it.
I like the panigale v2 design specially with the race kit added but a bit disappointed with the drop in HP to be honest. We have to wait and see how it will ride though
Its worth a go. I often ride my modified Tuono in rain mode which is a tad over 120hp and its bloody good fun thrashing it to the limit. I reckon the new light Ducatis will be great.
Ditching the single side swingarm.... not sure about that ... that gave the bike really good look and enough performance wise for 99.9999% of riders... the same they did with the monster few years back, dropping the frame... and I think the monster did not do so well, actually the secondary market, of used monsters is up a lot since then....I think the 2024 and under Streetfighers will keep the value better than in the past, it is a unique Ducati look the single side swingarm
For me they're getting too light. I need at least 1100 cc. Hopefully now that Trump is back, we'll start moving back toward big cars and bikes. A man can dream. :o)
@@thereissomecoolstuff Amen, brother. I'm thinking of doing more political shorts, although they didn't get too many views (if I made them about kamala, RUclips probably would have promoted them more!).
"some enthusiast loving updated aggressive appearance, others missing single sided swingarm" - dude, you shallowed it down. Most of ducatistis are in the middle. This bike is just plain ugly. Abundance of black plastic panels, silhouette of a dachshund and overdesigned everything. Even the SSS would not save this design.
@@GranatNaKolach Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But I can confidently say this bike is nowhere near ugly. Compared to many other bikes on the market, this bike is beautiful (in my opinion). It's not as beautiful as the MV Agusta Brutale 1000 RS, but it's still more beautiful than many competitor super nakeds. The M1000R is close.
@@DucatiDiaries ducati has accustomed us to raising the bar, not leveling it down and hoping it looks better then ...ekhm... a german design :) SSS or not, STF V2 is as much of a stepdown from old STF V2 as much as Panigale V2 is a step up from Suporsport 950 it replaces (as well as old Panigale V2).
No desmo, no single sided swingarm, less power and torque, no steering damper, lower spec suspension, awful looking exhaust, no Ducati, you just dropped the ball, I hope you can find it again.
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Too much focus on the bhp drop, but not enough on the entire concept. This bike is meant for the street and it's in the sweetspot for that now. If you want a naked track monster go for the V4 honestly.
@@hallmountfilms Yes and in case you didn't watch the full vid, video, I said the same thing. I bet this bike is going to be great. Ducati never let me down. But for me, I prefer a bigger more powerful bike like my streetfighter V4S and now Diavel V4.
Disagree. It's taking two ends, the V2 panigale and the Supersport 950s. By meeting in the middle it feels like it loses the best from both. I want an adjustable windscreen, higher handlebars, and a single sided swingarm. I'm now stuck with just the RS660 until Triumph comes out with a full fairing Street Triple. It sucks.
@@SarinEA lol. street triple or rs660 aren't going to give you more extreme riding positions or performance. people acting like it became a cruiser...
@@hallmountfilms replacing the 950s means the new V2 will still be more aggressive. Its the wrong direction I want as a rider. They're eliminating the 950s.
If only they didn't make it look like horse shit
Great Review thanks 🙏🏻
Thank you. Happy New Year!
I think Ducati is actually being smart here. First off, in 2027, new MotoGP dispacement restrictions come into play, 850 cc , max bore 75 mm . What wins on Sundays sells on Monday. The other problem is that the manufacturers can produce decent 800-900 cc machines for $12,000 to $15,000. Panagale V4's going for $30 k. And BMW M1000 RR for $25 _28 k. This is simply beyond the reach of most motorcycle enthusiasts. So you have very limited market. Look at the Japanese and KTM all the 800 to 947cc parallel twins and triples. They sell the hell out of these bike ranges. To be honest, for just pure riding pleasure in the sports segment , give me a twistie road and a nimble, less than a 400 lbs fueled bike.. for touring and such larger displacement, heavier machines just work better. So, the new V2 scheme to me is an effort to serve this market. It's all about putting up numbers or your sales based upon selling V4's will fall off. Plus, these less expensive machines create tomorrow's demand for the V4 machines within your brand. If you attract entry riders in, and you give them a pleasant experience, they will come back for more. For me, it is KTM , I got my first one in 2014 , and I'm five deep after 10 years with two in my stable as of this post. A 2020 , 1290 SAS, and a 2022 1290 SDR EVO. SO kudos to Ducati. You need a pipeline.
A bike is more than the top number on a dyno chart. The new Doc and the R9 are gonna be brilliant street bikes...
The new V2 will be a lot more fun with its huge weight loss and punchy power output.
I have the Monster 937 which I love, but was thinking of going to the SFV2 within the next year. Wanted the bump in HP and the SS swing arm. Unfortunately now I will just keep my Monster or have to find the older model which will prob be scarce by then.
The Streetfighter V4 is a great upgrade from the Monster. But I've been missing my Monster since I sold it. :o| But if you're on the bigger side (I'm 6'1" and about 215 lbs), the SF V4 would be good.
The SS swingarm is overrated. Hanging onto it when a better one is available, is putting form over function... People keep going on about the peak power, so clearly performance is their primary desire, but then they are willing to put the look of the single sided swingarm over the newer better performing one?
@SquireSCA I guarantee 99.9% of buyers of this bike will not notice the improvement of the DSSA.
I hope that it turns to be a sales flop so I can buy one with a good discount. But being a Ducati I'm not counting on it
Just replaced my Multistrada V2S engine (937cc) with this new engine, the torque curve and weight reduction will make it great for the road and it’ll handle like a dream.
Always good content. Ducati builds bikes to win races. The DSSA is for track feedback. Weight loss is always better than power gain for track handling. Brakes win on track. The faster you can shed speed and set your line, the faster you can get back on the throttle. The new Panigale is really a great bike for the street. It will be the biggest competition for the new R9. My only curiosity is what will set the street fighter apart from a monster SP besides styling. I own a 21 monster and absolutely love everything about it.
Thanks brother. Yeah I've been missing my Monster and thinking of a Monster SP recently!
I like the panigale v2 design specially with the race kit added but a bit disappointed with the drop in HP to be honest. We have to wait and see how it will ride though
@@shadimagdy8196 IMHO, 120 is not enough power (unless you are mostly tracking the bike so you need something light and nimble).
@DucatiDiaries I know! It is more of an updated supersport at this stage than panigale! Congratulations for trump win by the way :)
@shadimagdy8196 Yes thank God for saving Trump and re-electing him. The country was on the verge of literal doom.
Wow that's a beautiful bike and with 40 less lbs that would be an awesome bike to ride
@@Lethal_Venom Yeah this bike must be incredibly nimble around corners. In a straight line with my fatness on it, not so fast. 🤣
@ I like corners 😁
Great video! My doubt is… what they gonna do with the monster? Will they keep a 111hp/166kg bike and in the same time a 120hp/178kg bike?
Great question. I think they may have a bigger displacement Monster but not sure what engine they'd use.
Waiting for this engine in the new Hyper in 2026
Italian style at a 'reasonable' price...120bhp at that weight is more than enough...plus longer service interval...
I won’t be updating, love my now old SF V2
Will there be a 2025 diavel?
@@allnighterist My bet is they'll do a Diavel V4 S for 2025.
I will test the streetfighter.Is 120 HP enough?
@@detlefschmidt2221 For me, it's not enough. Unless you are doing track days mostly.
@ i think for the street is enough,but i prefer my 166 Hp😂
Its worth a go. I often ride my modified Tuono in rain mode which is a tad over 120hp and its bloody good fun thrashing it to the limit. I reckon the new light Ducatis will be great.
PRAISE THE LORD sir I like your video because you are use word of God
Thank you, brother.
If you're referring to that HIDEOUS exhaust, then YES.
They dropped and LOST the ball.
Thankfully easily remedied.👌😎👍
@@GIGABACHI Yes and I bet we'll have a lot of options in the aftermarket.
Ditching the single side swingarm.... not sure about that ... that gave the bike really good look and enough performance wise for 99.9999% of riders... the same they did with the monster few years back, dropping the frame... and I think the monster did not do so well, actually the secondary market, of used monsters is up a lot since then....I think the 2024 and under Streetfighers will keep the value better than in the past, it is a unique Ducati look the single side swingarm
Yeah I think they made a mistake getting rid of the SSSA. I also don't like the bikes getting smaller and smaller. :o\
Save even more money and buy a Triumph Street Triple RS
20 PLUS HP FOR 40LBS WEIGHT REDUCTION
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Ducati is just making thier bikes tighter, lighter, faster and nothing more then classier pieces of Italian art.
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For me they're getting too light. I need at least 1100 cc. Hopefully now that Trump is back, we'll start moving back toward big cars and bikes. A man can dream. :o)
Brian, your pep talk videos before the election is what got Don the last 5 million votes. Thank you and all the right voters everywhere.
YES! MOST AMERICANS DO NOT WANT COMMUNISM. SOME DON"T REALIZE THAT DJT WAS RUNNING AGAINST IT.
@@thereissomecoolstuff Amen, brother. I'm thinking of doing more political shorts, although they didn't get too many views (if I made them about kamala, RUclips probably would have promoted them more!).
"some enthusiast loving updated aggressive appearance, others missing single sided swingarm" - dude, you shallowed it down. Most of ducatistis are in the middle. This bike is just plain ugly. Abundance of black plastic panels, silhouette of a dachshund and overdesigned everything. Even the SSS would not save this design.
@@GranatNaKolach Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. But I can confidently say this bike is nowhere near ugly. Compared to many other bikes on the market, this bike is beautiful (in my opinion). It's not as beautiful as the MV Agusta Brutale 1000 RS, but it's still more beautiful than many competitor super nakeds. The M1000R is close.
@@DucatiDiaries ducati has accustomed us to raising the bar, not leveling it down and hoping it looks better then ...ekhm... a german design :) SSS or not, STF V2 is as much of a stepdown from old STF V2 as much as Panigale V2 is a step up from Suporsport 950 it replaces (as well as old Panigale V2).
Just saying, Ducati brought out the much ‘unloved’ 999 a number of years back - nearly bankrupted the company……just saying. More $ for less
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No desmo, no single sided swingarm, less power and torque, no steering damper, lower spec suspension, awful looking exhaust, no Ducati, you just dropped the ball, I hope you can find it again.