The Deconstruction Of Andy Stanley
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- Опубликовано: 9 июн 2023
- Andy Stanley is one of the most well-known pastors in American Christianity. Known for founding North Point Community Church, the Catalyst Conference, and producing a number of resources for believers and church leaders.
In this video essay, I aim to lay out an understandable timeline for where Andy Stanley came from and how different events in his life have influenced how he approaches situations now.
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Link List:
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1. "His Ways Mine: A Tribute to Dr. Chalres Stanley" - • His Way Mine: A Tribut...
2. "A Conversation w/ Dr. Charles Stanley Part 1" - • Life, Love, & Legacy: ...
3. "A Conversation w/ Dr. Charles Stanley Part 2" - • Life, Love, & Legacy: ...
4. "How To Be FAithful And Fruitful w/ Dr. Chalres Stanley" - • How to be Faithful and...
5. "Andy Stanley: Full Uncut Interview" - • Andy Stanley - Full Un...
6. "Rise of the Religious Right Part 1" - • Rise of the Religious ...
7. "Rise of the Religious Right Part 2" - • Rise of the Religious ...
8. "1985 Southern Baptist Convention Part 1" - • 1985 Southern Baptist ...
9. "Andy Stanley's Advice To Young Leaders" - • Andy Stanley's Advice ...
10. "History Part 4 - Andy Stanley & Andy Stanley" - • History 4 - The Gloiou...
11. "Forgiveness: Andy Stanley" - • X_Forgive
12. "Circles Instead Of Rows" - • Andy Stanley Says: Lif...
13. "Your Assumption Is Showing" - • Your Assumption is Sho...
14. "The Bible's Falacies: Sam Harris: - • SAM HARRIS THE BIBLE'S...
15. "Worship Services Not Essential" - www.cnn.com/videos/us/2020/07...
16. "Leadership, Preaching, And Cultural Engagement" - • Video
17. "When Truthy Meet Gracie" - subsplash.com/gwinnettchurch/...
18. "Discovering God's Will Part 1" - • Discovering God's Will 1
19. "Discovering God's Will Part 2" - • Discovering God's Will 2
20. "Discovering God's Will Part 3" - • Discovering God's Will 3
21. "Discovering God's Will Part 4" - • Discovering God's Will 4
22. "Hang On To Baby Jesus" - • The Fundamental List |...
23. "Shadowcaster" - • The Fundamental List |...
24. "The Sin Knot" - • The Fundamental List |...
25. "Introduction To The Founders Of Embracing The Journey" - • Fear Not - Andy Stanley
26. "How Parent Connect Meetings Work" - www.bitchute.com/video/gz3ixx...
27. "Is Andy Stanley Affirming?" - • Is Andy Stanley Affirm...
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1. CNN Article: www.cnn.com/2012/11/17/us/and...
2. Embracing The Journey's Website: www.embracingthejourney.org/u...
3. Protestia Archive On Embracing The Journey: protestia.com/tag/embracing-t...
4. Deep And Wide: amzn.to/3P5k1Wh
5. Communicating For Change: amzn.to/3N29AQG
6. Article that references Charles getting into altercations with his stepfather: www.newspapers.com/image/4036...
7. Founders Of The Moral Majority: www.jstor.org/site/liberty-un...
8. Andy Speaking About Therapy (Page 46): www.google.com/books/edition/...
9. Ryans Viral Tweet: ryanvisconti/stat...
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Andy successfully got the modern family to church while helping send them to hell. Andy will be accountable. "Deep and Wide" is the path that leads to destruction.
Was thinking the same. So sad...Rosario Butterfield would have wise words for him.
Lord help him and millions of us to get back to Bible TRUTHS
Andy seems more bothered by the fact that the gay partner was married and committing adultery than the fact that he was having a homosexual relationship. As if one sin was for some reason greater than the other and is therefore a disqualifier for serving in the church when both sinful lifestyles should be a disqualifier. Andy is more concerned about hurting people's feelings and stepping on some toes than he is about the standards that God has set forth for His creation. You cannot be a follower of Christ and live out an adulterous and homosexual lifestyle. We are commanded to deny ourselves and carry our own cross if we are to follow Christ.
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This is one of the best documentaries I've seen, on any topic.
What I found most interesting were his "turning points". I realized just how easy it is to be slowly turned away from the narrow path with just a few bad turns 😳
It’s a slow fade. So many distraction in our culture.
Let’s do Charles a solid and pray for his Son and keep in prayers.
Amen
He comes under a greater accountability & has & still is doing great damage. My hope is GOD will judge this so called pastor now!
Amen!
Yeah it seems like Andy needs to accept Christ and be born-again. Because it sure seems like he's highly deluded & demonized, not saved.
Pastor Andy, I'm so sorry that you from your testimony of what happened when you watched the atheist's presentation, allowed the atheist to convert you to his way of thinking rather than you converting him to God's way! That's so sad. God's Word IS the source of absolute truth. I am the Way, the Truth and the Life. John 14:6, He told Nicodemus. He told Satan: Man shall not live by bread alone but by EVERY Word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God. Matthew 4:4 Review Psalms 119 and note all the attributes given to the Word of God. And finally note how in John 1:1 Jesus is referred to as the Word. No subjectivity there. People must be saved on God's terms. So preach the whole truth and nothing but the truth for their sakes and yours.
So....a video from an atheist "dismantling" the Bible caused him to basically abandon the Scriptures. That is pitiable.
It's a cautionary tale. We all must be careful to put on the armor everyday.
So true ... sadly, many people think if a man stands behind the pulpit, and calls themselves a Pastor (just like Bill Hybell of Willow Creek), then they MUST be a man of God! This scenario happened in my church too, Willow Creek's method of DRAWING IN THE GOATS, and using things like Entertainment to keep them there. My Pastor and the Elders believed they would eventually be saved if they kept coming. But, if you water down the Gospel...you don't really have The Gospel. 📜📖✝
And for Andy to agree that there is no physical evidence of the Exodus or the Flood was also pretty mind blowing.
100% … the answer wasn’t to back away from the scriptures, it was to lean into them further. What a shame
About an hour in. The whole section where Andy is preaching that the church needs to be a "modern family" situation is absolutely wild. The issue for him isn't the fact that there is a gay homewrecker that tore apart his family who is trying to volunteer as a sort of deacon at one of his church plants, it's that the gay homewrecker's "partner" isn't divorced yet, so they need to do that before they can help out. Also, it frames the WIFE as being in the wrong, because she doesn't want the husband and his partner to be in the community, and then the church community grooms them into being becoming complacent and accepting of their sin. And it's presented as the most casual thing. Wild...
We should be biblical families but can't do that when you reject the Bible and celebrate homosexuality like Andy.
I agree🙏
The correct word is homosexual not gay. Gay means happy or jolly.
You, and millions like you, don’t realize the power of words. But the Devil does.
Some people believe AS is a closet homosexual.
The alphabet people are the death of everything decent and holy.
Charles Stanley was the first pastor I listened to when I was saved nearly 40 years ago. Isn’t it amazing that the son of such a faithful preacher can fall so far away from the tree? I’m sure Charles saw it but probably felt helpless. God hears our prayers - let’s all say a little prayer that God would convict him of his errors.
Like the son of the great pastor John Olsteen ! Now his son Joel is a weak pastor at best and has compromised his stand for God and his word! following the spirit of this age! We really need to pray for Joel and this great Church of thousands in Houston!!😢🙏🏿❤️🙏❤️🙄
Since Charles Stanley was a fire and brimstone type of peacher, Andy went the other direction and became a rainbows and sunshine peacher, just like Joel Osteen. And just like Joel Osteen, Andy is a false teacher and should be outcast and shunned. I read Andy's last book and not only does it seem to be written by a teenager, there are so many contradictions and false arguments an no real coherent thought in sentences. It's really bad. I've been an anti-Stanley(Andy, not Charles) since Andy's influence is felt in my church because they are in the same community as my church.
not to worry. Remember the story Jesus told abotu the rich man and Lazarus? Remember he said the rich man's brothers have the prophets (the scriptures). what Andy did is first discount the scriptures. I used to attend NP and glad I left. I had times over the. years when I felt uncomfortable with their vision (a church where the unchurch want to attend, the rock music atmosphere, etc). I pray people will flee from this place, if they remain they like Andy are destined for hell. Christ will deny them since its obvious they are denying Christ even though he preaches in Jesus's name, based on the fruits from his tree, if he does not change Christ will deny him.
I have deep love and respect for Charles Stanley. His word is true and comforting. He was my aunt and uncle's next door neighbor. Andy Stanley is all ego. Let us pray for him. Pride is one of the 7 deadly sins. Pride is nothing to celebrate. I have lived here my entire life. The devil's come down to Georgia....again.
Father God in the Holy Name of JESUS bind that spirit of deception,open the eyes of Andy understanding.
Andy Stanley reminds me of the Corinthian church. In the Corinthian church they seemed very proud of how accepting they were of the sinner in their midst. Paul had to write them a letter of correction telling them to disfellowship the sinner until they repented from their sin and stopped doing it. When the sinner stopped Paul then wrote a second letter and told them to welcome the repentant sinner back in. Paul did not rejoice in how open the church was to the sinner while he was still sinning it is not a reason to celebrate. The wages of sin is death. We are told to repent and turn from our sins.
Thank you ! This is it exactly.
Paul even told the believers that they needed to repent & mourn, being in grief with the grieving of the Spirit of God, so that the sinsick person would be taken away & delivered unto Satan with hopes that as he was beat up by him, that he would repent, also. And for this brother, it worked. That mourning by the believers, was the goodness of God leading him to repentance. Then in repentance, like the woman caught in adultery, he could hear the powerful words of Jesus: Go & sin, no more.
Paul? Really? Read some direct translations of Paul from the Greek. You'll find a whole lot of self-interest there.
@@cwbrooks5329 do you read Greek? Just curious. I don't. Are you using some other resource? Do you mind telling which one?
@@1eyedjacksRwild I studied what was then called "Biblical Greek" at PTS. I'm not sure it's still referred to the same way. FWIW, I highly recommend it -- Latin also. Whether you're a Christian or not, it's fascinating and no doubt great for creating new neural pathways. For an "off the shelf" book, Nestle Aland, I guess is the old go-to, though I understand not everyone likes it. FWIW, I like to read opinions and interpretations with which I don't necessarily agree. I feel like it's healthy for my brain, and my Faith.
That why I now always question WHO said what in the book....If it was Paul and not Jesus.... I take it with a drop of salt, bc WHAT JESUS ASKED US TO DO is making me a true christian, notbehat Paul says....Paul, as much as he loved the Lord, he was still JYST a man! I get Andy....after 50+ years of being a born again christian- or so I thought, I changed my mind to what true Christianity means....from CHRIST point of view.
So basically Andy doesn't feel the need to call people to repentance. Got it.
If not that then what good is he?
I have been trying to figure out what the purpose of this documentary was about.. thank god I seen your comment!!! Saving me alot of wasted time!!!
He doesn't call for belief in anything as far as I can see. Why does he even want to be a preacher if you hate everything about the Word? Just to be a heretical servant of Satan to lead people away from the Truth? He seems to delight in his rebellion. Esp against his father. Perhaps God will use Andy for His own good purposes (in spite of him being a huge stumbling block) for the sake of Charles. Its hard to fathom his smugness.
What did Jesus said to the woman caught in the adultery? " Who condamn you?....Neither do I"...She WAS NOT ASKED TO REPENT FIRST FROM HER SIN ... Indeed, He mentioned at the END of the conversation. and of her hearing that shes not being judged by him either " : go and sin no more"....
Sin in not good because it destroys you and your neighbor and that's needs to be " preached"- as Jesus did, not as church does.
If "christians" would follow Christ, instead of a book or a religion, they will actually follow in Jesus' steps....and become a LIGHT in this world...the book was INSPIRED....but not even Jesus followed...instead of trowing stones AS THE BOOK INSTRUCTED, he told her " NEITHER I CONDEMN YOU"....He was supposed to condemn the woman with issue of blood....it was against THE BOOK for her to be in public!!! Did Jesus blindly obeyed THE BOOK, or applied what he preached? If the book wins instead of GODS LOVE, Satan wins.
I grieve the loss of a great communicator of the gospel to the world. I pray Andy will see his way back to Biblical faith!!
I was getting on here to say the same. He is so gifted and could be such a powerful tool in the hands of God to further his plan and kingdom. 😥
When did you think he HAD it? Seems more like he never has.
He will never, bc once the " bubles" is popped you can see for the first time the erroneous things that does not make sense, but we were forced to beleive. You really can not go back to an adulterated message. I speak out of my experience. These days, I do not care only about what Jesus asked us to do. Religion lost all its meaning.
I am where I am Spiritually mostly from the teachings of Dr. Charles Stanley. God used Charles Stanley to give me a solid foundation and with God's help, I have build on that Foundation. He's gone but not forgotten.
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Praise God we will spend forever with Charles Stanley. All 4 times in my life I visited his church, he waited after every service to sign books and bibles for everyone who wanted his autograph. Precious Man! My hubby came to Christ because of a message he preached, and we got to shake his hands during the service, they sat us right in the front by him, Praise God!!!
Same here. Will always be grateful to Dr. Stanley for his faithfulness in preaching God's word.
It breaks my heart to learn that he was invited to Dallas Theological Seminary knowing his views on homosexuality, adulatory and the errancy of the Bible as a whole. I always held that Seminary in such high esteem...
No one needs to “go to seminary school” to preach the Word of God- only the Holy Spirit! If anyone love the Lord and belongs to Him, we are qualified, for the Lord searches our hearts above all else!
As with everything that goes stale or rotten so do we
when we don't check our selves and our lives
through the Word of God and walking in it
That was very disconcerting to me too. With people as solid as Tony Evans as alumni, my thinking was DTS was one of sadly the rare Bible Colleges that was sound. Shocked me to see Andy spewing his junk there
The “Gospel Coalition” has also gone “woke”! Ugh! Pray for Andy, and all those being misled.
A preacher is called to preach it is a gift not all have that. Those that came out of seminary and started mega churches seem to always fall yet become big & famous. They seem to avoid many things in GOD's Word that may cause controversy. I love how their study bibles refrain on comments concerning setting issues. Yet a small church mountain preacher down a dirt road that was called to preach will take on topics where the flock get stuck such as so called "bible contradictions". Rather than pass over the potters field & the field of blood, who bought the field the priests or Judas, were there 2 fields, Judas bought an estate, the priests later bought a field. God bless the man of GOD that is called to preach, the teacher that is called to teach. GOD judge the man who is not called yet taught by man & teaches the religion of the world and it's god. Just like the Pharisees that were trained by men
Andy Stanley says that he "never felt called" to preach. That is by far one of the most accurate things I've heard him say!
And that’s the problem . Preaching is a calling from God . If you don’t hear/feel that call , then it’s not for you . Just because you’re a good ‘communicator’ doesn’t mean you should be a preacher .
when he was young and in the car with his Dad and asked his father "Dad do you have to be called by God or can you volunteer?" and his Dad said "Yes you can volunteer "how I wish Charles answered that one differently!
@@brucecampo6543I think that set him up for what is going on today. He is a communicator, not a pastor. Just because you studied theology, that does not mean you are a pastor.
Saying he never felt called to ministry is the first honest thing he has said recently
He should have gone another route. Reminds of Joel Osteen situation when his dad passed away and they placed him in the church.
Andy is conforming to the needs of the world instead of conforming to the Word of God, which his dad Charles did so obediently for 78 years. May he RIP.
His father seemed just fine with his son's teachings and was always saying how proud he was of him.
Not really. Charles taught the false OSAS doctrine and laid the groundwork for Andy's false teachings Charles never repented of this!
@@barbarakuks2034….yes, that was my biggest objection with Charles Stanley….the Once Saved Always Saved doctrine. It is false and does not align to Scripture. The Word of God says we must “continue “ in our faith, growth and walk. Many do not continue but actually fall away. Even the Bible says there will be a “great falling away”. Charles Stanley always quoted the Scripture that no one including the Devil can snatch you from the Father’s hand. That is true, but God gave us human choice and will…..people choose to leave the Father’s hand and let go of following the Lord. God does not force use to stay with Him and follow him. God will never hold us hostage to following Him. OSAS is on every level a false teaching that will lead people into Hell thinking they have the security of Heaven when in reality they do not.
His dad was very proud of him and his teachings. Check out the Sunday morning talk they did about two years ago. I love how y’all think you know his relationship with his dad better than him. Y’all are all judgmental and uneducated. One man’s video is not the end all be all about Andy Stanley. FAKE NEWS!
@@barbarakuks2034Error begets even more error which is precisely what occurred in Stanley's case. Out of all of the comments I've read so far, it amazes me that you were the only one to discern that.
Andy Stanley, Joel Osteen, Joyce Meyer & so many more - NOT CALLED
I live not far from Lake Lure, and worked there awhile. It was a fun place to go when I was young and my family enjoyed it? I'm from the same town nearby where Fruitland Baptist Church and Bible College is. It's so sweet to learn that Charles Stanley has history in my state of North Carolina.
While his sermons were often too sweet to help me with a lot of the 'modern' darkness I was going through and coming out of as a new/rededicated Christian early on, he was like a dependable smaller lighthouse always guiding me back to the greater lighthouse, Christ Jesus. Through adherence to the word, I could always go to Charles Stanley's messages and teaching, his humble spirit, to stay on track with a simple and uncomplicated, obedient, peaceful and honest faith in Christ.
This is fantastic!
After a Christian upbringing being a youth minister, a pastor and a leader of all sorts he has succumbed to an atheist.
Andy Stanley is an example of how easy it is to allow the culture to influence you and miss the plan God has set before you.
Fortunately, God is merciful and there is still hope.
Michael, you are to be commended for such a careful, thoughtful, well-researched presentation. It was a fascinating watch and really lends context to how a lot of the most recent aberrations in Andy's teachings came about. Thank you for your hard work, brother.
This was really well done Michael 👏🏻
You let Andy speak for himself and, in turn, dig his own grave.
He’s a false teacher going full speed into apostasy. God help him.
He was never even called…right there…done. On him and Charles…that was sad to hear.
Yep. His dad put him in ministry without being called or meeting biblical qualifications. And he publicly endorsed his sons ministry the entire time he was teaching heresy.
Yes just rebellious satan worked in his life
@@TheJpep2424 in another video, Charles did speak against his sin's teaching
Completely agreed
Narrow is the gate, and few that find it…… most are deceived and will hear “ depart from me I never knew you” though they followed their shepherd’s by attending church and tithed. Very sad, and heartbreaking.
We must have a personal relationship with Jesus. We must seek God’s knowledge, wisdom and understanding and lean not on our own or any man’s. God’s Word tells us let no man deceive you.
Charles Stanley was an Awesome preacher. Him and his son is the difference between light and dark.
Ruth here, so why could his dad sit in Andy's services hummmm, l personally don't care that much for Charles and Charles sitting in Andy's church, why?
Many people believe this, but when you look into CS's private life and some of his teachings, you'll find Andy's behavior is not so surprising.
Dr. Stanley taught things like the outer darkness Jesus spoke of wasn't Hell but the worst part of Heaven. And that people could stop believing in Christ altogether and still be Christians.
@@lauramckinney9896Dr Charles Stanley never taught that! Why would you say that?
@@rena6895 Because he did teach it. Chapter 10 of his book Eternal Security. You can check for yourself. God bless.❤️
@@lauramckinney9896link?
Who in the world does he think he is. He really thinks God needs his help to save Christianity from the Bible? Wow. What an ego.
Bingo!
This was a LOADED video. My wife and I watched it together. There were so many troubling issues we saw. However this was an excellent watch. I appreciate you.
Man, you researched the HECK outta this topic: great job! Thank you for doing this.
I am very grateful to still listen to Dr Charles Stanley's sermons midnight mondays thru friday on Family life radio 90.3 AZ. He was a great preacher and has helped cement my faith as a Christian. Following his sermons when he was alive and these recordings and reflecting on life today and its upside down as a Christian. This man knits ones doubts and fears to a whole. Rest in peace man of God. 🙏🏽
The church I was a member of soon after I got saved ('95) was fairly scriptural, albeit Arminian. However by 1998, the Pastor and Elders went to Willow Creek to see what the new Church Growth Movement was all about. When they came back, EVERYTHING changed. All of us were put on the back burner and ignored. We were told we couldn't even say anything to the Pastor after service when shaking hands, that they were there for the unbelievers only! The Pastor and his wife were two of our best friends, but that went out the window. I was on the building commitee just as this started up, and we were looking for property near-by, and we were sent out door-to-door asking "what would it take for you to come to church?" ?'s such as No Steeple? .... Less talk of sin? ... more fun activities, such as a built-in pool? I couldn't believe what I was hearing! I felt very strongly about witnessing to the lost, since I had just come from being that myself 3 or so yrs earlier. But I also knew this was completely wrong. Willow Creek (Bill Hybels) / Saddleback (Rick Warren) and their Seeker-Friendly ways are not God-honoring if you ask me. The sheep are starving in those churches!🐑🐑🐑😥
Oh you speak such great truth!!! Watered down Christianity is not Christianity ! And they ARE starving for the bread of life
God in His WORD warns us of such false teachers such as Andy stanley, Rick warren, Billy hinn, Joyce meyers, and the like.
This is regarding Andy Stanley being a false teacher:
ruclips.net/video/mp962EYZLC8/видео.html&feature=share
Bill Hybels bit the dust. As for steeples - insurance companies don’t like them because tornadoes do.
Starving, and they don't even know it.
The perspective that “I’m going to accept feedback from the outside world and never from Christians” is highly problematic.
Beckett Cook is where I'm getting my model for trying to reach the gay people in my city. I have a gay son and two very close gay friends that I love dearly. They know how I feel about homosexuality but we have been able to remain close regardless. I don't "condone" what they do, but they know I love them. Andy Stanley seems like, along with Joel Osteen, he only wants the audience and to be popular. God's Word says what it says.
The Bible condemns sodomy, not homosexuality. Regardless of your view on the issue, you should know that they are completely different things. Many gay men view sodomy as completely unnatural and perverted.
@@jonathanpowers Before the word Homosexual came into our language, they were called sodomites. They are completly the same thing.
Even today there are about 14 States that have sodomy laws, still on the law books; Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Massachusetts, Michigan, Minnesota, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, and Texas.
@@petratical 50% of male homosexuals do not practice sodomy. So are these 50% not homosexuals?
@@petratical That's a common misconception among straight people (which is why those words have been used synonymously), but they are not the same thing. Sodomy is a sex act. Homosexual is a sexual orientation. I'm homosexual but have no desire to engage in sodomy, and I'm far from the only one.
I thank God that someone is trying to reach them. I find it funny that we will let other sinners take part in leadership but this sin we do not. Seems like we are wanting everyone to be perfect. Cheat on your taxes - yes be a deacon. Embezzle money from your company - be the chairman of the deacons. Cheat on your wife - you can still go to church here. Divorce - yes you can serve; Where is the grace. People want to believe and worship and be part of a church family. Some of you want to tell them to go to Hell. I am thankful that someone is loving them.
Hi. 10 year member of NPCC. Saved and baptized by Andy’s church. I do understand that Andy does tend to allow himself to be taken out of context, but i believe you may have been mislead. He made our church’s opinion on same sex relations clear (see sermon: I love my church). We do try and make our church as welcoming to different walks of life as possible, but at the end of the day “what was sin then is still sin now” at our church. Jesus offers us salvation no matter what state we’re in, and THEN we become more like Him. Not the other way around. God bless.
These people have no idea. The people andy reaches would never darken the door step of their “righteous” churches.
The only thing is that they are comforted IN their sin never compelled to or convicted of their sin unto lifestyle change and repentance
@@ALA9E “Gods loving kindness leads us to repentance” and you forget it’s the Holy Spirit who convicts. Who is comforting anyone in their sin? Maybe they’re just kind and preaching the gospel like the Bible says?
Thank you for not only defending Andy Stanley, but your church, & ultimately God. I was just trying to research Andy a bit and I am glad to know that you do say ultimately he does believe what the Bible says about homosexuality. We love the sinner, but hate the sin. We are currently looking to break away from USA, PC, our Presbyterian Church, because they are letting so much homosexuality come into the church, and we do not believe they should be leaders in the church. Yes, love them because we all have family who have someone that is a homosexual and we love them, but we have to make a stand for what is right and homosexuality is clearly wrong.
I can’t shake the thought that maybe Andy will come out as homosexual or that he may struggle with that in private.
You're not the only one that's noticed.
Omg!, I’ve been thinking the same thing
Sketchy that North Point felt entitled to review this before being posted...
How is that sketchy to request a review??
It’s pretty standard for a piece like this. Standard practice for journalists to request a comment from the subject when doing something like this….
Oh, it's not sketchy at all. They will do all they can to protect their sacred cow ...
I disagreed. I think it's a good sign actually. What I feel is sketchy is the fact that they didn't want to specify Michaels inaccuracies
No, it is not. If someone wrote an article about you, I would hope you would ask or be given the opportunity to review it before it is released.
Why did the pastor feel he had to hide his identity. That is the sketchy part.
You cannot change the truth. The truth is the truth. Jesus is the only Truth.
I sorely miss Dr. Charles Stanley. 🙏✝️😔
@CherryvaleLeatherock
I praise The Lord that you have Jesus to lay your heart on and can complelty understand
your sence of loss in Dr Stanleys passing please know that all of our comments are not comming
from a place of condemnation it comes from a place of "Iron sharping Iron"
as you well know as belivers in Jesus Christ our Lord and Savoir
we are to hold up every Man that walks upon this earth who teaches The Word of God
by The Word of God lest we all believe in a strong delusion
Proverbs 27:17
As iron sharpens iron,
so one person sharpens another
2 Thessalonians 2:11-12
And for this reason God will send them strong delusion, that they should believe
the lie that they all may be condemned who did not believe the truth
but had pleasure in unrighteousness
Romans 3:4
Not at all! Let God be true, and every human being a liar. As it is written
“So that you may be proved right when you speak
and prevail when you judge.”
Peace and the comfort from our Lord and Savoir
be with you always my dear Sister
@@getreal3445 Thank you, my Christian Friend. I meant to say that there are few men on earth today who speak and teach the Word of God, as Dr. Charles Stanley did. We are from the same generation and I've listened to him for many years. I do miss his gentle, but firm teaching. Thank you for your response.🙏✝️
I liked Dr. Charles Stanley, too. The word is clear, tho that pastors should not be divorced.@@cherryvaleleatherock6900
I do too. He was the Best! He left an everlasting mark on my life.
The fact he went through various opposition and his wife not wanting to be married to him anymore he preservered What a role model
The next time you go through hardships especially when people are not with you because you've given you're life to God and became a Christian always remember what Dr. Stanley went through. 😅❤ Rest in Peace Dr. CFS
God Bless You as Well❤
Geesh. He had it right from the beginning. He wasn’t called, he volunteered right into the enemy’s hands with the bare bones of truth and the messiness of relativism.
Exactly!! So right you are.
Yep noticed that as well thats following religion and not The Lord
Right, and he should have volunteered for janitor (no offense to janitors! as it is needful and honorable), as that would not bring judgement on him per James warning; “Not many of you should become teachers, my fellow believers, because you know that we who teach will be judged more strictly.” James 3:1
Facts: If you read Rob Bell's testimony, he says the same thing. But what most people don't know is that they were both propped up by Leadership Network.
Nor was Isaiah called. He volunteered himself, and became one of Israel's most significant prophets. (Isaiah 6:8)
If there was even such a thing as an 'accidental pastor', Andy Stanley would be its avatar
Or Joel Osteen...
You misspelled apostate.
@@Markkos1992 Andy doesn't stand for the word of GOD he bows down to the agenda for the anti-christ
Lol yep you silly
@@Markkos1992 yeah, both of them see the business value from what I can tell. Everything else is negotiable, but business first can't compromise and follow principles first.
The Bible says…”Beware of false prophets. They come to you in sheep’s clothing, but inwardly they are ravenous wolves.” Matthew 7:15
Pray 4 Andy Stanley! I listened 2 Charles Stanley quite often when I 1st started seeking God!! He was instrumental in my beginning walk! God gives us children & we love & care 4 them & pray we did a good job in all ways. There’s nothing we pray harder 4 than our salvation & that of our children!! I pray Charles gets 2 walk with his son Andy in Heaven 1 day!! Andy has really lost his way! He is trying 2 reach the lost by speaking their language & the devil found his way in!! Satan loves 2 claim the souls of our pastor’s children!! I will keep Andy in my prayers…please add him 2 yours! He needs it!!!!
Also pray for Donald Trump. He needs prayers more than Andy, I can assure you of that.
I am joining you my family in Jesus.
Dr. Charles Stanley has been an instrument I am walking in JESUS now and many more of our family members whom used to follow their own ways before.
LORD HAVE MERCY for your son, may he reached to extreme desperation of leading his own life and FINALLY listen to You Oh HOLY GOD!
What's with all the numbers??
Is Charles strongly rebuking his son and trying to correct the damage Andy is doing? All the souls Andy is dooming? He should be in constant angst knowing what his son is doing.
Nope… sorry duped fools, wake up. Charles will be with Andy - but it won’t be in heaven.
To me Andy comes across as if he really hates the bible, and is doing all he can to destroy it but in a sneaky way. He comes across to me as a manipulative sneak.
Man, that story “When Gracie Met Truthie,” was just wild. Not a single mention of the sinfulness of homosexuality, not a single mention of the need to call that man to repentance and to call him to turn away from his sin. How tragic to hear from Stanley, but no longer surprising given his theological views on the sufficiency of Scripture.
Exactly! Not a single mention of that man destroying his family. And then makes the woman look like she is a bad person because she didn’t want both of the dudes at the church. Unreal!
I would run, not walk, from his church. Where's the Gospel? Where is Christ's atonement for sin? Where is sin? I grew up in a church like this and my life was a disaster until I found Christ at 25. The scripture is the Sword of the Spirit which points to Jesus Christ and leads to spiritual regeneration.
@@elaineeike5363Amen. Be not deceived, people!
Well Said
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Amen
May the Lord have mercy on Andy. When I see him preach and teach, I see no humility at all. I see pride and an arrogance. He is a pragmatist. Know idea what has happened to him in the last 20 years but clearly something got a hold of his heart. I fear for him. Any minister of the gospel that teaches us that we need to unhitch ourselves from the Old Testament is to be avoided. He has denied the faith.
Amen, Amen, Amen !!!!!!!
Fascinating history... some fundamental problems for Andy are that he is his own God - he has called himself into ministry, and he has decided that he can redefine the church and the gospel.
Your docs are really informative without being ‘hit’ pieces 😊. I recommend doing Steven Furtick next, he is greatly influential to my generation, Gen Z.
@Mary Nasike hehe hello 👋 🇰🇪🇰🇪
Ndio umesema kweli. I followed Steven and he had a lot of influence during my early years of ministry, until he went off!
@@marynasike6332it's not only in Kenya but here in South Africa too ... Our whole continent seems to be beset by heresies
Andy Stanley is the best. Thank you for threading his church journey. In it all he is walking as Jesus did. Love and inclusion. I so appreciate his transparency about his depth and width of learning.
@@lornaalford9440ABOUT YOUR "LOVE" AND "INCLUSION"
John 16:1-4
King James Version
1 These things have I spoken unto you, that ye should not be offended.
2 They shall put you out of the synagogues: yea, the time cometh, that whosoever killeth you will think that he doeth God service.
3 And these things will they do unto you, because they have not known the Father, nor me.
4 But these things have I told you, that when the time shall come, ye may remember that I told you of them. And these things I said not unto you at the beginning, because I was with you.
I used to attend an Assembly of God in Lansing NY, and the straw that broke the camel's back for me was that for their morning adult sunday school, they just showed Andy Stanley videos and when they were over, the assistant pastor would stand up and say, "Well what did you think of that?" Meaning 'actually Wasn't that great?' but not meaning, 'Did you have any issues with that which you disagree with?' Because with most of these types of churches, what they want is Kool Aid drinkers, NOT people who dispute their message. But according to Paul in 2nd Corinthians 10: 5 "We demolish arguments and every pretension that sets itself up against the knowledge of God, and we take captive every thought to make it obedient to Christ." So when Andy Stanley said junk like "If you have sorrow (about your sins) you're not trusting God" and then he taught that it was sin not to trust God. So it became 'If you have sorrow over your sin, THAT is a sin.' So I quoted to them "Godly sorrow [over sin] produces repentance that leads to salvation." They weren't happy to have people dispute with their Andy Stanley videos. When I went to sunday school after that I began more and more to dispute with Andy Stanley. People were uncomfortable with me. BUT! A FEW people appreciated what I brought up. But they kept up Andy Stanley as a replacement for the gospel for their morning sunday school. So I left them.
Do you know what is that church's stance now is re:. Andy Stanley and his now publicly debated unorthodoxy ??
@@theelizabethan1 No I have not been back to ask them and they probably do some other thing now much the same way their congregation seems to drift out every few years to be replaced by others. The fact they were fine with some of his worst teachings back then was all I needed to know.
U made a very wise and excellent choice👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Good for u 👏🏽
Shocking that an AG church would be so closely aligned with AS. As the video shared, it seems like earlier on, AS stuck closer to clear Biblical instruction and teaching but as time went on, nott so much.
My wife and I were using one of teachings regarding who we are in Christ to help people know who Jesus say we are. After the first time teaching this both my wife and I felt something about Andy was off. He just wasn't putting the whole Bible in his sermon. Soon after we learned he believes the old testament is not necessary anymore and shouldn't be taught. End result for us was simply BYE-BYE ANDY, WE WILL PRAY FOR YOU MY BROTHER AND PRAY ANYONE TAKES INTO CONSIDERATION WHAT PAUL SAYS WE MUST WORK OUT OUR OWN SALVATION. THEY ,HIS CONGREGATION, NEED TO REALLY READ AND MEDITATE ON SCRIPTURE AND MAKE THEIR OWN DECISIONS ABOUT ANDY. HE ON THE WRONG PATH IN MY HUMBLE OPINION,🙏🙏🙏❤️🔥
We visited his church around ten years ago. In his sermon, he said that one didn’t need to believe that the Old Testament was infallible in order to believe in Christ. My wife and I were stunned and as we looked around; there didn’t seem to be anyone shocked at his statement. We never went back.
I want to create a restaurant for people who don't like food
But could like food. Missing the point.
Spiritually dead sinners will never truly desire God apart from divine intervention that gives them spiritual life that desires Him. As Ephesians 2 states, unbelievers are dead in sin prior to God imparting His divine life of spiritual regeneration (the new birth from heaven).
@@WaywardMellowDigital ~ I don't think Tim is missing the point at all. The Willow Creek/Saddleback Seeker-Sensitive Method is to reach out to unbelievers in WHATEVER WAY will get them to attend. Yet the Bible says "no one seeks after God (Romans 3). The Seeker movement wants to totally up-end the way church has been for 2000 yrs (of a gathering of like minded worshipers of God (the Body of Christ))... INSTEAD, to a gathering of people who don't like God at all, but want the Social benefits of people gathering together.(ie...like one wants to have friendships, like having a birthday celebration, or meeting friends for dinner, ect). I believe Timothy is saying that having "Church" for people who don't like God, is like opening a restaurant for those who don't like food. In other words, it's basically USELESS!
You did a phenomenal job putting all of this together. Two parts that felt like the biggest gut punch to me were his “modern family” scenario. Somehow the man committing adultery was in sin, but the couple in a homosexual relationship was not. 🤦🏽♀️ Second was his redefinition of sin as “anything that hurts you or others” and saying it was how Jesus defines sin. 💔
Exactly. If we determine “what is sin” based on this approach, then its definition easily changes to whatever is comfortable in culture. If the mutual consent to a sin makes it OK (“so long as nobody is harmed”) then what is wrong is entirely determined by the individuals involved.
This is so flawed because it assumes we are better able to determine what is wrong/bad/harmful for ourselves than God. Essentially, we become the authority on what is/isn’t sin.…. not God.
@@gumpreza *_God Bless_*
He rejects the Bible. That's what you get when unsaved people that hate the Bible lead the church.
I'm watching in sections and just finished "modern family." I'm gobsmacked. Gay is okay, adultery is right out. We're all sinners but I can't think of another sin that asks for.....and often receives....such affirmation. Imagine an "Adulterer's Pride Month" or a "Thieves Pride March." "Meet Bob, a practicing hit man and leader of our Children's Ministry. Just don't make him mad." 🙄
He is simply impressed that the 6 of them are singing Christmas carols.😢 He's lost his focus of why Jesus really came; to get us to repent, be saved and transformed.
If I was leading a sin filled life, I would feel so comfortable attending Andy Stanley's services.
Yes! That’s exactly the point. We need sinners in church, also, not just a bunch of people that grew up there. Isn’t the point to expand God’s kingdom? I truly don’t understand this narrow minded point of view. Jesus traveled the earth by foot sharing his message with all types of sinners….Andy simply tries to do the same, but luckily, he doesn’t need to travel by foot. Almost everyone on this post is missing the entire point of why God created earth and the people in it.
The thing is that Jesus called people to repentance. Yes, he sought out the lost, but he didn’t allow anyone to feel at peace with their sin. Zaccheus is a good example. His immediate response to what Jesus said to him was to repay all he had stolen. To the woman caught in adultery he said, “go in peace and sin no more. “ Andy’s underlying assumption is that sin is not a big deal and we shouldn’t cause offense by calling it out. Sin is why Jesus died on the cross.
@@TheGodWalk The problem is that y’all are humans that think it’s your job to go around calling out other humans’ sins. That is God’s job. A pastor’s job is to teach the Word, not to point fingers and call only specific sins out to ostracize people. Just a question…which sins would he call you out for? Just bc yours might not be as obvious as a homosexuals, doesn’t mean it isn’t real or less than theirs. “Let he without sin cast the first stone.” Remember that verse?
This type of attitude is one of the main reasons that people turn from God. The Church. A bunch of self-righteous, sinful humans going around judging people. And I grew up in a church. Shouldn’t church be the best place for a sinner to go? The pastor should be welcoming enough to get them there, then let GOD do the condemning or working on their hearts. It’s not our job. Christians have become so insufferable that I don’t even wonder why people turn away from God anymore.
@@TheGodWalk Last thing and then I’m truly done with this topic bc honestly, it makes me so upset when Christians are this intolerable and unsympathetic to OTHER sinners, just like them.
Andy absolutely declares that homosexuality is a sin, and that marriage is only between a man and a woman. So per your argument, he has called them out. Just like he’s called the rest of us out for our sins (including himself). Andy has always believed that Jesus’ main function on earth was to show God’s love, so that’s what he has modeled his church after. He believes the most spiritual growth is best done in small groups, or circles, not in “big church.” He teaches about Jesus’ life on earth, and tries to help us be better at life by showing love to others and treating others well, no matter their transgressions. You don’t have to agree with that purpose, but trying to take him down by making some chopped up documentary showing small portions of his messages, which almost always can be construed in the way you’ve portrayed, is completely counterproductive to furthering God’s kingdom. Go after the Satanists or other denominations that are REALLY misleading people…don’t go after someone that loves God and believes his sole purpose on earth is to show God’s love. One day, we’ll all have to answer to our Heavenly Father, so I really hope you’re right here, or you’ve turned many away from learning from someone that truly loves God and has nothing but the purest of intentions. My mom has worked for Andy for 25+ years and I can attest to his character. I feel terrible for him and the criticism he faces, but after hearing last weekend’s message, I believe stronger than ever that he’s got it right, and most other pastors have it all wrong.
@@WaywardMellowDigitalwell you appear to really worship Andy. Have you ever not read Paul calling out seen in his Epistles, especially the Corinthian church which was plagued by sin and to be specific the guy who was sleeping with his step mother?
So read your Bible first before going on a rant, because if the facts are put on the table you'll be embarrassed.
Anyway sin ought to be spoken about in the context of us pursuing a Holy life as opposed to rebuke and rebuke is reserved for those who blatantly refuse to change knowingly what they are doing is wrong. Paul suggested disassociating with them actually.
1 Corinthians 5:9-13 ESV
[9] I wrote to you in my letter not to associate with sexually immoral people- [10] not at all meaning the sexually immoral of this world, or the greedy and swindlers, or idolaters, since then you would need to go out of the world. [11] But now I am writing to you not to associate with anyone who bears the name of brother if he is guilty of sexual immorality or greed, or is an idolater, reviler, drunkard, or swindler-not even to eat with such a one. [12] For what have I to do with judging outsiders? Is it not those inside the church whom you are to judge? [13] God judges those outside. “Purge the evil person from among you.”
bible.com/bible/59/1co.5.9.ESV
I bet Andy has never preached from these verses.
I have seen these links separately. Great job on researching and providing a clear, gracious presentation of the facts.
Listening to Andy over the years is like getting a new car and riding it without maintenance as it falls apart around you.
That's such a good analogy!😂
I can't breath Lol
An atheist's speech is *all* it took for him to forsake the faith once and for all delivered.
Yeah, Sam Harris is the worst
One would also wonder about his salvation, if he was so easily manipulated
True. And truly sad.
Huh??
Brick and mortar Churches require INTENTION to come to Worship. TV and Computer churches require NO Intention. "Going" to Church, for myself, was always the highlight of my week.
The church is not for unbelievers. It is for believers to be fed and nourished so that they can go out to the unbelievers and share the gospel with them!
The church is most certainly for non-believers..... that statement is as profound as, sinners are not welcome in church.
And where in the bible do you find this verse?
Of course the Church... is the body of Christ...... but we have got to get the non-believers in there as well, my comment was less than kind..... jerky in fact, my apologies. Seems I need more Jesus and less me. I don't think it is really specified scripturally..... all that snark was, in my opinion only 🙄.If you have some enlightenment on this.... I would appreciate it.
The church is absolutely for non-believers! Please retract your statement asap.
Andy is following the spirit of this age and not the Spirit of God.
YOU FOOL, THE SPIRIT OF GOD COMES OUT OF A BOTTLE.
He’s following the money
@@Citizen1910 that part
Whatever it takes.
@@mrnoedahl that’s pathetic
It's not renegade it's APOSTACY.
I wish more people would unhitch themselves from Andy Stanley
A thorough and fair exploration of Andy Stanley’s ministry. Well done!
Bottom line is that Andy is teaching what "itching ears want to hear" and not the truth. Truth can hurt. It is still our responsibility to stand by truth of God's Word and teach it. Sorry if people have a problem with it.
You are right!
And you watched him on every broadcast and been to all of his sermons personally?
@@mj6962What’s your point? Sin is sin Andy is in error not following the Bible
People that have a problem with it don't want to give up sin
As with the Mike Todd doc, this was excellently done. It didn't really change my view about Stanley but it gave some context.
It has been very enlightening. Lots of stuff I never knew about the Stanley family that fills in gaps and helps make sense of things.
Great video man. It’s heartbreaking because his books helped me years ago as a young youth pastor. That’s why we should never lift any pastor/leader above God’s Word as our true guide as pastors and Christians.
Andy sounds like Joel Osteen
One thing that stood out to me was Andy admitting he never necessarily felt called to ministry and that it was other people that told him he should do it. Similar with Mike Todd, actually. A big reason I haven’t gone into ministry is that I haven’t felt God calling me to it yet. I’ve been told I’m a good speaker and I’d like to think I have a fairly good grasp on scripture, but I’m not sure I’m being called to ministry. There’s a man at my church who’s been filling in as youth leader while we’re searching for a new youth pastor. Everyone keeps telling him he should apply for the position because they think Gods calling him to it. His response is always the same: “if that’s His will, He’s got my number.” And I worry how many pastors came into the role because other people convinced them to do it rather than God calling them.
God did not call him to open a church and lead it .Then who was behind this calling .See the negative results .
He has absolutely no respect for anyone or anything. But to have this little respect for God is quite shocking to me. The level of arrogance off this guy is astounding.
That's a scary thought.
@@katiewray2525❤😂😂C300
You wait on the Lord and He will make it clear to you. In the meantime, go to Bible school and a good one that teaches expository teaching. In other words, they don't put their 2 cents in the scripture or they make it say what they want it to say. This is what Andy Stanley has done. Tell me where in the Bible does it say homosexuality is NOT a sin. God destroyed a whole city because of it. God made male and female. Just pray and read and stay to the text even if you don't believe it or not. You will as you stay close to the Lord. God bless you
Andy Stanley reminds me of the serpent in the garden of Eden..."Did God really say that??? This isn't really sin." 🐍🌳🍎👹
🙌 perfect comparation
Andy is the perfect example of how sin infiltrates a Godly Church and totally destroys Christianity.
How so?
@@WaywardMellowDigital Without God at the center of the church there’s a void. That opens the doors to evil.
The devil counterfeits every good thing God created. Marriage, the rainbow, and now there’s churches that deny Gods word so much the pastor refuses to condemn sin.
It doesn't destroy Christianity. Sin destroys people. People need to repent. People need to be called out. God's on the throne and the devil is lying to people........And Jesus is coming back to rapture his church. Any day.
How did Andy do this when Trump has already achieved satan’s work with the modern American evangelical church?
Thank you for the well-laid-out and comprehensive clarity on this subject. I appreciate it greatly. God bless.
Well done documentary. I just don't see that Andy Stanley understands what it means to be an actual pastor, especially if he looked past his father as a leader and modeled himself after Bill Hybels. We see how it ended at Willow Creek... It seems to me that Andy Stanley isn't really preaching the gospel to the lost, but making sure that the lost are comfortable at North Point. Great for church growth, not good at all for the souls of the lost.
Exactly
💯
Amen
Agreed
Why do so many Christians have such a hard time minding their own damn business? Preachers and pastors have absolutely no monopoly on understanding the Word of God.
It’s very eye opening to see and hear Andy’s very words that he was more impacted by the words of Atheist Sam Harris than the Truth of The Word of God. This explains his downward spiral 🌀
Never called
Sadly, Charles Stanley never publicly rebuked his apostate, wayward son in defense of the flock. Very disappointing!
This reminds me of R.C. Sproul, and his son. I've always been told that pastors children have a Target on their back, and I've always seen it in my life to be true.
Praying for Andy Stanley.
How about pray against false preachers ... and the wicked and those who wreast the Word of God to their own undoing..?
@@margyeoman3564Why not pray for both ??
Another wonderfully put-together documentary/deep dive.
What stood out to me was the similarity between Andy and Mike Todd both not feeling called to ministry. 🤔
Thanks for all your hard work on this, Michael. Very well done.
That's a very good point that I noticed too. Makes me feel bad because they didn't want to teach but they made the decision and decided to not teach God's Word but ich ears.
Andy speaks about himself constantly! His views, his experiences, how he sees things….
Yes I noticed that “me, myself and I”
Thank you for this excellent documentary!! It was very insightful!
It's heartbreaking how much influence he has over thousands of people. The blind leading blind 😢
No more heartbreaking that the influence that Osteen, Bill Johnson, and the likes of have over so many today. If people were seeking the truth for themselves they wouldn't be so easily decieved.
But it's like he blinded himself
@PatrickTrent The Bible said that very thing is one of the major markers of the last days just before the rapture of Jesus' Bride- many will fall away from the Faith because they allowed themselves to have their conscience seared as with a hot iron by grieving the Holy Spirit in not rightly dividing the Word of Truth leading to compromise in their interpretation and inevitably, in practice. God calls that type of twisting of God's Word "doctrines of demons."
Ephesians 4:30 NKJV/I Timothy 4:1-5 NKJV
I dont understand how you can be a minister and not believe in the Bible....you cannot Cherrypick verses and say you are teaching God's word??? I am asked all the time if I believe everything in the Bible is true....YES I DO. Also you need fellowship so you need to go to Church. Who is this guy ?????
SIMPLY…NEVER CALLED!!!!!!!!MAKES ALLLLLL THE DIFFERENCE IN THE WORLD.DR.BRYANT LANE.
So sad - “if you go verse by verse through the Bible, you’ll never make it to Jesus.” Possibly the most telling statement I’ve heard so far. So different than what has become my experience - Christ fills the Old Testament. Jesus used the OT to reveal Himself on the road to Emeus. Only a church missing the depths of relationship with Christ is unable to see Christ communicated through the entire text. He is not a schizophrenic God. He is the same. His nature did not change. People are so in need to meet Jesus or be reintroduced to Him again. Oh, how He loves us!!!
Interesting comment. I started listening to this podcast because I was lead by God. In my observation of the church today it seems that most do not have a relationship with God the Father. They are worshipping an idol that was created by the Roman church. It is going to be devastating for many when the realize the fathers of the faith have sold the world a pack of lies. One cannot have a relationship with someone they do not know. There are definitely going to be so call Christians from this generation who will hear "depart from me I know you not"
Jesus is the Beginning and the End. Alpha and Omega. He is the Word and is God. God will not be mocked. It’s simple, some will repent others will not. They will mock, scoff, condemn, guard their sin, and follow satan straight to hell. Follow Jesus and have eternal salvation.
Charles Stanley is an absolute sweetheart!!! Cant wait to see him in heaven one day. May we all pray for Andy...dont understand the disconnect between father and son. I pray my kids never fall away.
Salvation is not reliant on one's family. Hence the reason the disconnect. : ) Andy is in desperate need of Jesus!
Sad to see Andy fall so far from his beginnings. Pray for his soul.
“Now it came to pass when Samuel was old that he made his sons judges over Israel. The name of his firstborn was Joel, and the name of his second, Abijah; they were judges in Beersheba. But his sons did not walk in his ways; they turned aside after dishonest gain, took bribes, and perverted justice.”
I Samuel 8:1-3
Exactly, this is why we don’t push nepotism!
Bingo, he got lost somewhere in his journey.
I knew Andy Stanley had problematic teaching, but I didn’t realise it was this bad! Thanks for this video and all your hard work.
One of the most blasphemous heretics in the world.
Dr. STANLEY NEVER ASKED FOR ONE PENNY. HE SAID ONE TIME THAT HE NEVER HAD, AND HE NEVER WOULD. HE SOLD HIS BOOKS THROUGH IN TOUCH. IF ANDY IS AFTER MONEY,HE IS NOT LIKE HIS DADDY.
@@lindamcfadden5522he was a man of God & a very good man but he was paid for his service to the church.
He was a millionaire, but that does not make him a bad man. King David in todays standards was a multimillionaire as was King Solomon.
The LOVE of money is evil. Money is not evil, in the right hands money is a tool that can be used to serve those in need.
“In Touch Ministries, the nonprofit organization that distributes Stanley’s sermons via television, radio, books and the internet, has net assets of more than $113 million.”
@@TheJpep2424 Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
Andy is on a path of deception, not truth. God is the same yesterday, today, tomorrow. Culture shifts, God does not. He is trying to be a friend to the world instead of calling out sin. And look at all his congregation being lead astray. Pray for him to repent before it’s too late.
Thank you for putting this together. I used to attend NP and know Andy a bit. This was a fair walk through of his life and a demonstration of his shift. It is gut wrenching because when I had turned go Christ from Atheism I was lead to NP. It was Andy's constant focus on Scripture and making it clear that gave me a love and hunger for the Scriptures. I read and study them constantly for going on two decades now beginning with him getting me started and always encouraging Bible reading. It is heart breaking to think he may have ventured away from that.
The sign of our time. The scriptures warm us about wolfs in sheep's clothing. Wide is the gate that leads to perdition and narrow the gate that leads to heaven.
It is not "compassion" for a preacher not to tell people God's truth about sin of every kind. It is the devil's message..."You surely shall not die".
My sheep hears My voice,so those that hears Andy’s voice and continuing to do so are not Jesus’ sheep.
This is the best informative and FAIR representation to critiquing someone. Just superb! Thank you! Yes he is being led down a path of deceit and Andy is not recognizing his face
Wow! I was really beginning to lose faith in the church. Not lose faith in God, but I was losing faith in church people and the pastors and teachers who seem to be worshipping a very different Jesus than the one who lives in my heart. I appreciate that this video popped up in my algorithm because it restores my faith that some pastors are actually still being guided by Jesus. That probably wasn't your intention, but I see a compassion in Andy that is a clear reflection of God's grace and mercy. All sin is equal, but there are only a couple of sins that our society has decided gives us permission to kick people out of churches and serving positions.
Thank you for your time. This was great!
This was really well done without it being a hit piece,like you had mentioned in the beginning ! God bless you for making this information available 😊. Would love your take on Steven Furtick. Would listen to his sermons online when I was younger,before i got plugged into a solid church. Hope your channel grows! Wishes from India 🇮🇳
This is so well balanced and factual. If only all documentaries followed that model of not being biased or having an agenda.
As iron sharpens iron… I get it, but he needs our prayers.
Andy’s goal right from the beginning was to serve the world, it was not necessarily a bad goal. He was trying so hard to meet the world where it was.
To introduce the world to God in a non judgmental loving kind way.
Growing up in the church he saw mean hateful “Christian’s”.
His father was one of the most godly men I have ever seen, and we see here how he was treated by “important people” in the church
Andy tripped up by not serving God first, it seems he went around God instead of through God.
Right from the beginning he said he was never called by God. He was following in his fathers footsteps, (with a college ideology) trying to reach the unreachable.
I believe his intentions were/ are humble, but he was too focused on the world.
We are all being slowly indoctrinated by the enemy.
In slow bite size pieces, through educational system, social media & TV, in many ways most of us have grown to accept the ways of the world.
Now we have a world rejecting Gods Word, and falling into the enemy’s hands.
It does not have to look evil for the enemy to win, it can even look like love & often does.
All the enemy cares about is pulling people away from the Truth of Gods Word.
We all need prayers.
He is not a "renegade" or even a "pastor" he a teacher of damanable heresies
There are several instances in the Bible of children of Godly men who didn’t follow in their father’s footsteps, such as Eli. Many people are abandoning the absolute biblical truths they were raised with. Conforming to culture modifies and waters down our biblical foundations. The goal of the gospel is for us to be conformed to the image of Christ and crucify our own desires. Stanley’s message is the same as the satanic creed - “Do as thou wilt” Or, as people started saying bk in the 70’s, “If it feels good, do it!” Pride goes before a fall.
Well said👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻💯
yup ur right
I continue to pray for Andy Stanley’s salvation daily. Such a sad story ❤
People need to start taking the role of a Godly father seriously. So many ministers ignore their family forgetting that these fathers have little souls at home to save. 😢
I have been praying for him also, I loved his Dad, he was a great man of God
@@edwingibson628 although he was a terrible father. The father and the husband are the spiritual leaders of the family. And when the spiritual leaders of the family are always gone, what does that mean for the family?
Pray for the thousands taken captive by his influence. Andy has had the spiritual privilege of access to biblical enlightenment, and the blessing of theological education. Both privately and publicly, he has been confronted regarding his ecclesiastical errors.
Has his response been one of humility and teachablity?
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I think Andy Stanley is lost in Confusion Land. Our church recently went through one of his series and I couldn't have been less impressed. Why droves of people would look to him as their leader is baffling. I saw nothing - nothing - that was spiritually convicting, insightful, or powerful.
There is a big difference between being called to the ministry and volunteering yourself for the job.
Some missionaries were sent to the field, but others just went.
Charles Stanley wanting to remain close with his son in his twilight years, never bothered to admonish chastise and correct Andy being a people pleaser rather than rebuking his son for heresy!
Amen!
@@lauriewilson8847 AMEN FOR WHAT?
@@stevencohn922 she just means she agrees with you and for that matter so do I, it's unfortunate
What continues to overwhelm me is how these so called “men of God” carry on in public life without any regard, let alone, compassion or fear of God for the wife, mother & women their lives they’re neglecting. Both men thought nothing of Anna’s pain, not even her son - Andy. When I learnt of Anna’s story, I lost all respect even for Dr Stanley! Your first church is your family - where your wife comes first!
Amen!
Really well done. I just realized that AS and I are essentially the same age. However, I was raised in the liberal protestant stream in Canada and I revolted by reacting against the emptiness of modernism. My denomination chased "relevance" and sold out its birthright. The irony is: it has never been more irrelevant. However, it seems that Sam Harris ( he who was crushed by William Lane Craig) produced a counter-conversion within AS. As he slides into his own cul-de-sacs, Sam has had a bigger impact than I imagined. "Did God really say....?"🍁
When I quote proverbs to non-believers, I preface it by saying it's a middle eastern proverb. They shut down when they hear the word bible.
I feel so stupid not knowing Andy was Charles' son 😑 I love Charles Stanley so much though. He helped me so much in the beginning of my relationship with the Lord....
He endorsed his sons blasphemy and heretical ministry.
A motivational speaker using the Word of God as a prop. What is most surprising is that people are condoning a false teacher. Atlanta, Matthew 18:15-17.
John Macarthur say Joel Osteen uses Jesus as a footnote. The same can be said about Stanley
Thanks so much for this video. I wasn't aware. I remember listening to his father a little, but not Andy. This is so sad. Praying those he's targeting will find their way despite his teaching. 😢
Thank you for such an in-depth scholarly presentation.