Why do gamers ALWAYS get the cool stuff? - HP ZBook Create G7 Laptop
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“I really Linus that one” guesses he’s a verb now
He said “Linus-ed”
I was going to say that
its just like saying „you britta‘d it“
@@professorconfundus8793 ==j=+
I think I will add this to my dictionary
Me: wow he seems pretty impressed with the laptop, maybe ill get one
Alex: oh ya it $4000
Me: ..... ill just watch the unboxing
Feels bad man
Get a zephyrus G14 they're on massive discounts at the moment
@@avyayirde8554 Zephyrus G14 is great (I have one myself) but it's not a comparable laptop. It also just doesn't have the same target demographic. That display alone is probably a significant portion of the cost if it's intended for content creation.
I got the i7 version with 1TB ssd, 2070 max q and 16gb of ram, and it was 2.3k euros (so about 2.7k dollars). I'm super happy with the purchase
Alex: Doesnt ever read the documentation
Also Alex: Where's the documentation?
69th like
@@yashpatil5130 who asked
HP named a laptop Zbook-Create, not far off from V-Create from pokemon odd...
Edit : V-Create is a move
Well, he's got to know where the documentation is so that he can deliberately not read it!
Lol, true
Ah yes. Linus Media Group. The only business where you can make fun of your boss on a daily basis.
You can do that with other businesses too.
But yeah, you can do that publicly here.
If it gets views/engagement it gets money, boss is happy either way
you can do that at any workplace, you just won't have your job for long if you do.
Cant unlike this one. HODL UP GUYS!
well linus allows it haha
3:45 "This is the most laptop-looking laptop"
Hmm, yes, the floor here is made of floor
“It’s really grounded to the ground.”
It is what it is
"Just because your right doesn't mean your correct!"
It reminds me of a 10 year old laptop lol.
Also you are reading the most comment-looking comment.
Gaming laptops tend to look like a giant brick
0:58
Alex: "Turtles' gonna choke on that."
Captions: Toddlers' going to choke on that."
Welp, both are applicable anyway.
Are there toddlers at landfills?
@@MrSatyre1 Dunno, ask someone who doesn't vaccinate
Also, plastic film is recyclable. Just return it to any grocery store (at least here in Pennsylvania, which is not the most recycling friendly place)
am I the only who HATES these "new" pattern of keyboards where the arrow keys are super small? as a programmer I really like to use that a lot
yep- still use my 9 year old Lenovo G70 with full scale Keyboard. its a brick, but I write for my work so a good keyboard was Priority #1.
Honestly, it's nothing new. HP has been using this same keyboard for literally 6 years. My 1040 folio has the EXACT same keyboard. It is not meant for long-term typing. It is by no means a bad keyboard. It's just not meant for anyone needing to use anything but letters.
HP are using this design for arrow keys in Pro/Elitebooks since 2011.
I never liked small arrow key... NEVER 🤬😂🤣😳
Also, an advice which has been passed for generations: use Vim, Luke!
“Why do gamers get all the cool stuff... professionals get laptops and they don’t have enough power to game” I’m not sure but I think there is something wrong with that sentence
TIL a 1650 is only powerful enough to look at photos, lol
Yeah mom thats why i need a 3080 for school
Definitely can't manage minesweeper.
Me playing RDR2 looking very nice at a reasonable framerate on my xps: "huh, i guess this isn't a game, its an interactive photo"
I use NASA supercomputers to look at my childhood photos
1650 can game
"You're an engineer. Cool. Good job"
LOL they're ALWAYS reminding everyone who isn't🤣
Next video title: "Why do creators ALWAYS get the cool stuff?"
1) Multi-Core and Thread utilisation
2) No cheesy marketing lines like "Live To Game(I'm looking at you, zotac)
Like a bunch of rtx 3080.
At 4 grand? Because they have the money I'd say hahaha. That's a lot of green papers :S
@MrGhost370 yup. Contrary to popular belief most creative professionals are not that technically literate which make them the prime target for Apple Product and to be equally fair apple products do perform better for creative works.
nah we don't really. For my studybought an HP ZBook 14U G5, 14" 1080P screen with a low power i7, Radeon pro WX3100 2gb workstation gpu, 16gb of single channel DDR4 and a 256gb NVME SSD. This setup costed 1600 euros and that was with a discount. The biggest upside is it having Thunderbolt 3 support and I would be able to add ram and storage without voiding any warranty.
"Construction noises" what happened to RTX Voice?
Theyre talking about the actual construction noises in the back
@@retro9848 RTX Voice was made to eliminate background noises such as construction.
I wish these bigger youtube channels would start calling out these companies like dell, and HP for the massively inflated prices they charge for things like ram and storage. It is a ripoff.
and especially apple for charging a shit ton of money for stuff that isn't even upgradable
They usually do it indirectly, calling them out for soldering down the components. The people who watch these kinds of videos are likely to upgrade their computers and stuff, so if you can't upgrade after you buy they'll call that out instead. I do agree that they should do that though, in a review, which this is not.
Watch there videos on the alienware laptops.
It ain't a problem if you can add it in yourself.
@@edwardb911 maybe because apple is also a company that does the shit the comment alluded to, in fact they are the worst for it ^^
"I don't understand when companies do different branding..."
...
video is posted on a youtube channel called Short Circuit, a Linus Company (ding!)
So I looked up "dropped" in the dictionary and this is what I got
adjective
: 1. having fallen or been allowed to fall vertically.
2. to Linus it
cool but if you look up a conjugated verb, shouldn't the examples also be in the same conjugation? `dropped` is simple(?) past tense, and thats reflected in conjugation for `having fallen`. But the 2. `to Linus it` is in the infinitive form. Shouldn't 2. be "Having Linused it"? or similar? I dont know much about grammar so someone help me out
@@nebulium6641 I agree, half assed joke attempt.
@@nebulium6641 The Grammar Police is here! Go to Grammar jail! *BONK*
@@tvthecat you are accused of assaulting a suspect after an encounter.
Alex has started to grow on me. He has gone from this " I'm doing this cause Linus is forcing me" to "opening up laptops to water cool them is awesome"
1:49 The glitch in the Matrix.
I saw that. Actually, a lot of spots in the video seemed kinda glitchy or like the framerate dropped really low and it stuttered. I wonder if something glitched during the export
@@ShukenFlash True that
2:33 "LTT Quality Check" ☑️
"Turtles gonna choke on that it's gonna be tragic!" Aww yeah, let's make company shaming a thing so they all switch to more environmental friendly packaging!
i like your humor
Last time a company did something for the environment apple ended up removing their chargers from their phones
If you turn on the automatic captions, it reads „Toddlers going to choke on that, it’s going to be tragic“
:-D
@@dominikbessler2507 just like my dreams so satisfying
@@dominikbessler2507 Well I mean a toddler could choke on that too, so captions are somewhat right? You aren't supposed to keep bags/plastic wrap/plastic film around them for a reason... lol
*HP designer 1:* Well... we have our classic logo; our cool new logo...
*HP designer 2:* nah... let's just put a giant Z on it.
*HP designer 1:* But, but... People might think our laptop is made by *ZORRO!*
*HP designer 2: EXACTLY!*
*HP designer 1: Surprised Pikachu
More like Fairlady Z
script: boom laptop! laptop! boom!
editing: yes!
8:19 "I think its big enough, it feels great"
Thank you Alex, the look I got from my room mate was priceless.
2:34, 8:23 That resin table is not gonna last very long with Alex banging every laptop that comes in.
I still have hp zbook from 2016, no major complaints and still works like a charm. I love the keyboard layout and glad to know it hasn't changed.
"Turtles gonna choke on that, its gonna be tragic" that dead pan delivery... comedy gold... I'm stealing it.
My Zbook Create arrived yesterday morning and I love it! Gets very warm (unsurprisingly), the soldered RAM is disappointing (as I’d like 64gb), I miss the extra screen real estate of a 16x10 aspect ratio and it’s a regular 2070 (not a Super). But other than that it has a lovely screen and the speakers are Bang & Olufsen tuned (and very good!). Happy with my purchase 😎👍🏻
You should of got the 15 g7 but t HP isn't know for that, they most likely it keep it to where u can upgrade the ram... I don't know what you really got.
Absolutely love Alex’s attention to environmental packaging. Keep bringing it up!
I have been a thumb on touchpad person for quite some. I have extra respect for Alex for bringining it up every time.
none:
linus in the background: "HOLD ON"
Alex: "Turtles are going to choke on that" 0:57
Subtitles: "Toddlers are going to choke on that"
Me: 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
6:27 that layout... can't imagine the amount of times I would turn off the laptop when I wanted to hit delete
Those keyboard power button you have to hold and by default a prompt pops up asking what you want to do. So if you press the power button as youre typing it wont do anything.
@@mashy712 that's a relief. I use the back bar all the time & was thinking I'd be likely to catch that power button. (2 finger typist with bad error rate here).
Kinda late for this, but HP's weird power button usually takes more than a few seconds of press before activating, so you wouldn't accidentally turn off your laptop. And the delete key being on the corner actually makes it easier to find with the right hand pinky finger imo.
9:48 The speakers in the HP are better Alex, the Dell is really harsh in the high end
Lol how tf are you supposed to know?
but HP is awful company! 🤮🤮🤮 HP customers Extinction! hopefully!
It's really not possible to tell either way just by watching this video as so much depends on the microphone, audio processing, compression and finally the audio setup used in the device you watch this on can make or break the audio.
But if I were to judge by what I can hear I would agree with OP. It appears to me that the HP sounds better than the Dell. Using my setup the HP sounds more open and more detailed in the high range than the Dell. The Dell appears to lack in the high end as well as in the bass register, giving it a muffled sound that lacks in details.
But as I wrote I can't really say that's anywhere close to what it sounds like IRL.
I got to test one of these at work and I'm in love with the build quality and the keyboard. It's amazing.
"There's a lot of venting here"
SUS
Perfect 😂
I loved that
I can't hear iFixit without my brain going "EXPLOSION!!!" Thanks alot, Jay! :D
I have a laptop that screams POWER, all of its 19 FPS
at 8k though? hmm
@@MattB90 720p
Dude, 19fps at 32k isn't bad
@@ryuga2852 actually, 19fps on 720p ultra potato
@PainkillerX thats true are you also rendering 8k vids while running advanced flow simulations while streaming and mining ethereum?
Why do gamers get gaming graphics cards in their laptops? Hmmm, it's almost as if they're willing to pay extra to game on their laptop.
What tends to astonish me is how often these business-y laptops still cost the same as gaming laptops, just without the GPUs.
@Dylaila So is my laptop that has a 1060 in it. Maybe not as thin and light, but still comfortable to use on a plane. =)
Not every gaming laptop is a desktop replacement behemoth, especially after AMD's 4000-series landed.
@Dylaila show me one laptop that can't be used on an airplane. And please don't bring up that stupid 100 Wh limit nonsense. Never in the history of the FAA has anyone ever had their laptop battery size scrutinized, or have been denied getting on a plane because of the battery. My old laptop had two 65 Wh batteries, never had an issue.
@@xenonram I mean, there's an off chance that a business exec has to throw their laptop away at the airport checkpoint and proceeds to sue the manufacturer I guess? I've always seen it more as a legal CYA
@Dylaila I mean technically some might fall under those restrictions, but not that many laptops. There's the 100 Wh thing, but even that seems to be mostly aimed towards powerbanks rather than laptops.
I thought I might have missed some newer restrictions, but googling the issue revealed only specific restrictions for not being able to take a laptop into the cabin when flying to or from certain countries, and of course not being able to use them during takeoff and landing, but other than that even the 100 Wh limit wasn't mentioned as applying to laptops.
EDIT: Even then what would prevent you from taking say a Zephyrus G14 with you? Apple Macbook Pros, MS Surface Books and LG Grams come with larger batteries, and it's an under 2 cm tick 14" laptop that weighs 1.6 kg. And happens to have an RTX 2060 inside it. It's only a bit bigger than a Dell XPS.
Why would I want to buy a laptop for 4k when I can get an insane setup for 4k
EXACTLY! Thank you. No one I have ever seen needs to have that much power on the go. Just get a 1k$ laptop and build a beast with the rest 3k$. You most likely don't wanna sit around in starbucks and show off your blendr skills.
If you lan a lot or don't want two different computers for work and home-gaming.
*sees a shiny edge*
‘Yea, it’s diamond cut here’
12:42
Not only he kinda dropped the laptop, he also dropped the screw driver
Linus should be proud!
Let´s appreciate that LTT takes a stand on environmentally friendly packaging!
Just received one this week to give Windows a shot (MBP 2019, i9 2.3, 32Gb, Vega 20, 1TB against the Zbook i9 2.4, 32Gb, 2070, 1Tb). Set it up by using the Mac for my work until I have time to re-learn Windows 10 over Christmas. Love the overall design, build and weight - Dreamcolor matte screen is outstanding too - just need to get used to Windows...
Damn HP is crushing it, this is making me reconsider my love of my thinkpad
then I heard the price
Alex: Turtle is going to choke on that
Michael Reeves: I see that as an absolute win
Alex: 1650 is not enough power
Also alex: only uses chrome and word
Try firing up autocad and any 3d modeling program on at the same time and the 1650 starts chugging. Though you'll hit the ram limit first more often
@@t_y8274 I'd just ssh into a rack server if I needed to run a data set. Otherwise use a workstation.
@@lordofthefries4140 3d modeling with autocad and photoshop open is a standart workday for any architect, and noone is connecting into a rack server for that (you wouldn't be able to regardless, the input lag would be killer).
You can't have a desktop either because your job involves regularly visiting the construction site to check that everything is alright.
@@t_y8274 well I wouldn't know, I do data science and chemical stuff lol
Tho 2060 laptops exist in pretty slim and portable designs, I'm just criticizing Alex's laptop reviews in general
@@t_y8274 I have a SB2 with a 1050 and it handles Autodesk Inventor just fine... a 1650 shouldn't be an issue with most applications.
Alex:*Drop Something*
Linus: Wait that's illegal
last time I was this early I was cooking pizza
OH NO MY PIZZA
Wow, I actually laugh at that early joke. Thats a first.
The big question everyone in this thread now wants to know: WHATUP WITH THAT PIZZAAA
Me: that looks nice
*sees intel sticker*
Me: I'm not interested.
Mhn. Same
It's okay to be poor
I mean like, if you're paying that much for a non gaming laptop, you don't need it to be a Ryzen laptop, any CPU is good for work
Lists specs
Me: Oh nice I can't afford it
That's just how it is :(
you are not alone...
hey look another unoriginal comment
@@paulallen1370 all comments are copied from previous comments.
even your comment...
Thanks Alex!!! For finally reviewing something from the Z series by HP. Most of the things people like about other competing laptops HP has been doing them in the Z series for years. Not sure why they don't do them in their "consumer" products sooner so they aren't "catching up" with the competition in that category though. Will you please also compare the Z series desktop to the Apple "pro" desktop for a real comparison instead of saying that there isn't anything else in this category? HP literally created the workstation/professional class desktop computer category when they invented the first "GPU" decades ago and they have dominated it ever since then.
Alex: "a lot of venting"
Editor: "sus"
Nice.
I has an earlier version of this (with the Quadro) at my previous employer and honestly it was a beast. Yeah it's heavy and square but it could do anything you threw at it and it never slowed down or ramped up the fans. Used it as a docked PC for my desktop at work and then when I needed to do something at home or in a conference room you had everything you needed. Mostly did 3D modeling and Civil 3D/AutoCAD which runs really heavy (because it's still not multithreaded)
Is it just I'm high, or Alex is talking more casually in this video....
From the manual:
> 32 GB DDR4-2933 non-ECC SDRAM. Memory soldered down. Supports dual channel memory.
not gonna lie the video production quality on LTT, ShortCirvuit and Techquickie Channels is kinda lacking lately..
Not sure for what reason but i can see many mistakes like in video editing (like cuts not being done correct when people mess their lines up and star over), as in delivering the wrong information to us.. multiple times in the same video (like saying hdmi 2.0 instead of 2.1 etc.. even though if the editors correct them with a text)
Gotta be more careful if you wanna have a more professional approach to things.. you are a company after all and people like me come to you for the right information
I picked up an MSI Creator 15 for work the other week with a 10th gen i7, RTX 2060, 32gb ram and 100% Adobe UHD display for $2k. Can't imagine this is worth over $1k more
"construction noises"
9:30
To my eyes (well, ears), the HP is definitely better
It has a more 'full' sound, while the Dell is 'brighter', but I don't specially like that
Same
I was looking foe this comment before so I didn't repost. Definitely agree
Dell's is the shrill kind of bright.
HP's is warm, without getting too muddy.
I love the touch of construction noise
"I really linus'd that one"
As the owner of a Zephyrus G14, it's a "gaming" notebook with great uses for productivity and a good competitive price.
I'm waiting for Elon to get bored with making cars, flying to space and satellite internet... imagine a Tesla Laptop!
Would be cool to see it with a custom-designed 16 core RISC-V CPU.
2:33 durability test! Wow short circuit now includes durability testes in there reviews to. Keep up the good work!
Why drop that beautiful HP logo (the modern "business", that consists on 4 bars) and substitute it with this kinda generic Z?
Because
"This screen doesn't have touch" Proceeds to jab the screen again and again just to make sure! Lol!
anyone else get frame drops watching this ?
Yes, noticed it in several LTT videos. Drives me crazy
What potato computer are you watching this on?
@@vladdx dell g5 15 gaming laptop, its not the issue, trust me
@@jimduggan8382 Yep it's clearly an issue with your drivers, I have no frame drops on my laptop's UHD 630 iGPU
@@vladdx LOL don't you think i would notice frame drops in other videos if it was on my end
I love that they are putting emphasis on recycled (or more green) material in the products packaging. this stuff definitely needs more attention.
HP: We need a shitty logo, our main sleek HP one is too clean for gamers!
*sigh*
Alex loves to just chuck those laptops around. We get a free durability test with every review!
Idk I’m still considering an m1 MacBook Pro for my creative works
Definitely, I'm also very curious how Apple will handle graphics in the upcoming Macs.
@@Dionyzos i heard from my uncle who is an engineer at apple cali (take it with a grain of salt he’s just an engineer) Apple Is trying to work out a deal to get nvdia gpus but they want the latest and greatest and they’re reserved for intel only so it most likely won’t happen. But the rumored m1 x is coming out on the 16 inch version so if you’re a creator like me you’d want to hold up for the 16 inch cause it seems like a beast
It's totally cute how he chucks around something so happily, and there's me realizing I will have to work my ass off for half a year before I can afford it. Anxiety ensues.
"New Dreamcolor" just like the Dreamcolor I have on my 10 year old HP EliteBook with a 10 bit panel?
Not that it gets used anymore, but Dreamcolor has been a line they've had a long time. 4K dreamcolor is how old now? 4 or 5 years?
Yeah i have dreamcolor display on my zbook 17 g2
2:49 looking kinda sus there
"I really Linus that one"
Thats the second video in a row where he dropped something , they grow up so fast
A couple months ago: WAOH RTX VOICE RIPS YOU CAN'T HEAR ANY BACKGROUND NOISE WITH THIS TOOL IT'S SO COOL
Right now: sOrRy gUyS tHeR's cOnStRuCtIoN nOiSe iN tHe bAcKgRoUnD wE cAn'T dO aNyThInG
RTX voice seems to sacrifice quality for clarity. You can intelligibly whisper above a jackhammer but you sound like a robot
RTX Voice is great for personal communication.
No sound designer in their right mind would use it for professional videos.
No sound designer in their right mind would pick that time and place to make a video but that is another matter entirely.
I like how l can hear Linus making a video in the background and the hammering and drilling
early boys
So... In Denmark for about 20k danish kr (3,2k$) directly from our biggest distributor: HP Zbook Create G7 i7-10750H 15.6 inch FHD Anti-Glare LED UWVA 400 32GB DDR4 512GB PCIe RTX 2070 6Cell W10P 3YW (DK)
all we want is professional looking laptops with that professional build quality that can play games
Same thing puzzles me here as with gaming laptops, how often do you really need that power on the go? Is not better to have an even more powerful desktop for the day-to-day work and then something more reasonable when you need to present that work (or whatever you need a laptop for)? Of course, this could be a super niche laptop for those who already have a much more power desktop, and this is the weaker thing to bring with you.
"We have some construction going on, that's the air compressor lines getting installed"
Behind the wall: Brian the electrician
"The table is not flat" needs to be in every video
At first I thought the "construction noises" were a gag to match his hand gestures.
Next unboxing we want to see: Flat table for the ShortCircuit studio
You're right. It looks just like my $400 HP laptop. The 'Z' on the back isn't enough to sell this thing on looks alone.
The HP sounds far better than the Dell from where I'm sitting.
10:12 to 10:17
Alex: I'm sorry you had to see that
Me: why are you sorry? That's the only part of the video I enjoyed.
Been forever since we’ve seen Alex, glad to have him back
I really enjoy LTT's B team. Like Colton, Dennis, and this guy.
a gaming pc is also a productivity pc. video games are the act of practicing what a person could do with a pc. pong was a college experiment of programing it was fun. thats how video games came to be the coolest thing to do with a pc.
“You don’t quite get the ‘BRRHHH’”...nominated for official new word. You gotta have the ‘BRRHHH’ and HP gets that
i swear to god there are always construction noises in every linus video since 2015
2:35 Alex just pulled a Linus
Okay, Linus hire a laptop reviewer who has no biasness towards touch displays, I have dozens of people who have bought laptops from your recommendation but all of them found the unwanted suggestions Alex has for touch displays. The touch functions are amazing to use ik personally, but seriously man, there are a very very very small amount of people who want touch displays. Huge respect for you guys♥️
The Dell's speaker audio sounds more balanced while the HP has a slightly muddy bass boost.
HP Z series of products have always been great. They are products oriented to the enterprise sector and were never market aggressively. This isn't new.
We have these at work for devs, not had one issue with them in over 12 months (older model)
MOAR Alex laptop reviews
actually MOAR Alex in general
Alex starting to sound like Paul's Hardware here. "Excellent"
6:05 Got to love a Stiff Deck!!! Especially when you press hard on it. :)
I like that the last two videos I saw emphasised on how recyclable/not the packaging was