Thomas and Friends - History of the Arlesdale Railway - THOMAS EXPLAINED

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  • Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024

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  • @SteamLance
    @SteamLance 2 года назад +61

    The Ravenglass & Eskdale was originally 3ft gauge until 1915, when it was converted to 15" gauge. And when it was converted, some Bassett Lowke engines along with Heywood locos from the Duffield Bank Railway. One of these, the 0-8-0 tank Muriel, became River Irt, so Bert could have started life out very similarly

    • @jamesthomas5109
      @jamesthomas5109 4 месяца назад

      Were any of those 3ft gauge locomotives preserved?

  • @6allmotivepowers363
    @6allmotivepowers363 2 года назад +52

    Very nice! I like your point of Sigrid being the original "another engine" - it makes so much more sense than the Railway waiting nearly 10 years to construct Jock. I believe I've come up with an explanation for the age error in Sticking Power - literally spur of the moment. At the time the story takes place, Bert had been heavily rebuilt just a couple years prior. The illustrations obviously never show that, so perhaps one could interpret the dialogue error as Mike and Rex joking about his recent rebuild - hence why they call him "younger".

    • @SamTheTrainFan
      @SamTheTrainFan  2 года назад +13

      I like the explanation! I’ve got a feeling that the whole thing with Rex and Mike calling him young was supposed to be a joke line, but it’s not really made clear enough in the story that I can be 100% sure that was Christopher’s intent.

  • @allisonkrueger8330
    @allisonkrueger8330 2 года назад +11

    4:04 “fat gauge” I’m dying 😂🤣

  • @ABellEngine
    @ABellEngine 2 года назад +40

    this is one of the best history lessons of talking train lore class, not gonna lie

  • @calebc.2290
    @calebc.2290 2 года назад +13

    it took me six year to realize the magic reference in sodor legend of the lost treasure. Thank you for the outstanding video I can’t wait for more.

  • @samuelfarris1949
    @samuelfarris1949 2 года назад +18

    - As someone quite observant, I can see convoluted material is pretty much what Mattel is struggling with right now in Thomas & Friends. I mean think about it: you've not only got an entire wealth of classic book material with lore containing loose ends, but also a television series that has had a turbulent direction, involving many setpieces and character implications, that do not always add up and often contradict with each other, especially as the series went on. Trying to make sense of all of it combined with a minimal understanding of how it all, is enough to initimidate anyone who happens to be in that position. We senior fans may know what they're missing out on, but the fact that they don't shouldn't really be undermined if you ask me.
    - As much as what I learn about the Arlesdale Railway via the Thomas & Friends Wiki and his video is fun, what really fascinates me is what we are not told. We are never told why Bert is said to be the youngest engine of the Arlesdale trio. Was there something to him that distinguished him from his Ravenglass counterpart that Awdry meant for but never clarified? Just where did he, Rex and Mike work before landing on Sodor exactly? Awdry seemed to be just as much a talent at hinting more than he lets on as he was with writing with a family audience in mind, and that is very much apparent in the lore behind his work. It's another detail of why his work is so fascinating; it's like a gateway that Awdry purposely left for our own creative vision.
    Regards, Samuel Farris.

    • @VestedUTuber
      @VestedUTuber 2 года назад +2

      I don't think it's that Mattel can't wrap their heads around it, it's that Mattel doesn't want to invest the time, effort and money to do so. Mattel is a mass market toy company focused on selling a product first and foremost, they see the attached media as simply a marketing method to be done as cheaply as possible without hurting sales revenue, focusing only on the intended demographic for their products. And since the intended demographic for all the in-house produced merchandise is young children, that's what they're focusing on. The only merchandise that older demographics might typically be interested are the full hobby-grade model trains, and those aren't even made by Mattel - Bachmann, Lionel and Hornby produce those under license.

  • @eggballo4490
    @eggballo4490 2 года назад +36

    There's something you missed, before the Mid Sodor Railway, there was the Arsledale Tramway which operated from 1867 to 1880.

    • @daringpyrritator7163
      @daringpyrritator7163 2 года назад +1

      He also got incorrect the route of the MSR, as Ffarquhar Road came before Marthwaite, and the line went further east of Ulfstead Rd., originally terminating at Arlesdale Rd. before 1906 when the line was extended to King Orry’s Bridge closer to Peel Godred.

    • @theenigmaticst7572
      @theenigmaticst7572 2 года назад +1

      I wonder if that's why the writers of Season 2 of Thomas the Tank Engine got things mixed up with Toby the Tram Engine and Arlesdale - because they read a reference to the Arlesdale Tramway?

    • @terencewilliammckenna6121
      @terencewilliammckenna6121 2 года назад +1

      @@theenigmaticst7572 And then, there's the Peel Godred branch line starting at Killdane that first caused the MSR's decline, then the following war efforts.

  • @SirEdward_
    @SirEdward_ 2 года назад +18

    4:01 I remember traveling on fat gauge many times now. I highly recommend it.

  • @nwrfilms2008
    @nwrfilms2008 2 года назад +25

    This was unexpected but we all need this

  • @stepneytanker
    @stepneytanker 2 года назад +23

    This video came out of nowhere and I love it. Great job as always I’d love to see more videos like this

  • @DJtrainzzz
    @DJtrainzzz 2 года назад +11

    The arlesdale railway is one of my favourite railways on the island, i just love the miniature engines, so this is great

  • @Ryder-a-Blaze
    @Ryder-a-Blaze 2 года назад +19

    This is so educational.

  • @SMPandanic
    @SMPandanic 2 года назад +5

    as a fan of both herbie and thomas I LOVE the fact that you used Herbie the love bug music in this very cool!

    • @SamTheTrainFan
      @SamTheTrainFan  2 года назад +1

      I’m so glad someone else noticed the Herbie music! I thought it fit the video pretty well.

  • @Steamenginesunited3456
    @Steamenginesunited3456 2 года назад +11

    That thumbnail looks quite delicious.

  • @tempestsoma
    @tempestsoma 2 года назад +5

    This is amazing I love the smallies so it's nice to know the history of their railway

  • @gordonpacific04
    @gordonpacific04 2 года назад +8

    This was Great! I’d personally like to see a video on the culdee fell railway next!

  • @FutureRailProductions
    @FutureRailProductions 2 года назад +3

    A touch of the Herbie goes to Monte Carlo theme. Nice. Good video.

  • @benjconstant2838
    @benjconstant2838 2 года назад +10

    Would love to have one on the Culdee Fell Railway in future. Really trying to learn about that one as I'm trying to write for it right now.

  • @RailRocketRicky
    @RailRocketRicky 2 года назад +2

    5:45, that's Rosegarth Guest House in Ravenglass! :O My uncle used to run that guest house until 3 years ago! :)

  • @rynodynomyte2755
    @rynodynomyte2755 2 года назад +3

    Amazing history video of the railway! One thing you didn't add in the ending was how Mattel disrespects the miniature engines. Mattel deems them and the Skarloey Railway unmarketable, pointless, and obscure. Which is why they don't appear anymore and their excuse is not much story potential as standard gauge engines. Still great video! I wish Frank and Jock appeared in the show though and maybe the Blisters and Sigrid

  • @slatetruck3240
    @slatetruck3240 2 года назад +1

    Guys, the king has returned

  • @isaacstroupe9225
    @isaacstroupe9225 2 года назад +1

    I love the “Herbie Rides Again” music at the beginning ❤️

  • @thebrendamengine
    @thebrendamengine 2 года назад +2

    Great video! The Arlesdale Railway is my favorite Sodor railway. I'd be interested in seeing you do the Skarloey or Culdee Fell Railway next!

  • @guilhermerossi807
    @guilhermerossi807 2 года назад +2

    Amazing video! Keep up the good work 🚂🚃🚃

  • @jordangilliam2590
    @jordangilliam2590 2 года назад +1

    I loved your use of the Intro music for Herbie goes to Monte Carlo. But my goodness I did not know there was soo much lore to Thomas, well done on the video ☺️

  • @Mason58654
    @Mason58654 2 года назад

    Well done video! I can’t admire the fact that the Small Railway Engines were ever televised at all enough! You have to love the smallness but strength of these little engines!

  • @inegozamora168
    @inegozamora168 2 года назад +2

    I'm with you I like the classic Thomas and friends
    1.The Railway Series books(1945-2011)
    2.Thomas and Friends(Classic Model series 1984-2007/2008/2009)(season 1-season 12)
    3.Thomas and Friends(CGI series/2009-2020)(season 13-season 24)
    4.Thomas and Friends songs(1993-2020)
    5.Thomas and Friends Movies and Specials(2000-2020)

  • @andrewtheberkshireengine4385
    @andrewtheberkshireengine4385 2 года назад +1

    Imagine trainz simulator got a fat gauge mod. Very nice history video sam:)

  • @TFFan-hu5qi
    @TFFan-hu5qi 2 года назад

    I love how you used Wallace & gromit a grand day out music, just smart & great to hear when your talking

  • @Frowny13
    @Frowny13 2 года назад +1

    Wait what?? SamTheTrainFan still makes content for RUclips?? Well it's good to see you back. Definitely looking forward to more of these 'Thomas Explained' videos.

  • @rpbricks255
    @rpbricks255 2 года назад +1

    Wow! This is an amazing video. The editing is top notch

  • @joshuaW5621
    @joshuaW5621 2 года назад +2

    This was awesome. I did an edit a while ago to see how Bert’s rebuilt would look in the cgi series.

  • @knapfordstudios5755
    @knapfordstudios5755 2 года назад +1

    This is great timeline for the miniature engines and there little railway

  • @StationGuyGabe9821
    @StationGuyGabe9821 2 года назад

    Couldn’t help but hearing the Thomas styled rendition of “beautiful girls” towards the end. Love that song. Great video!

    • @leefreeman3515
      @leefreeman3515 2 года назад

      Is it ok if u could leave link to where u heard the theme in the video?

  • @jayvonnoelsmith8445
    @jayvonnoelsmith8445 2 года назад +1

    I would love to see more of these from you

  • @kumataJDG
    @kumataJDG 2 года назад +1

    Excellent video! I have to say I went into this not expecting much but you really covered every relevant corner of lore, no matter how obscure. I'd love to see video essays of similar depth focusing on the other railways of Sodor in future. Great work!
    PS "Shelagh" is pronounced the same as "Shiela". It's an Irish name :)

  • @lysander.o.c.3580
    @lysander.o.c.3580 2 года назад +2

    This is a very good video. I like it, very well made 👌👍

  • @theamazingadventureofeduardo
    @theamazingadventureofeduardo 2 года назад

    I am so inspired. When I was a kid I did not know these characters. Later I Watch the free Willy engines on CGI. And now I am very inspired! ☺️ this video is so awesome

  • @imbirekwszystko8067
    @imbirekwszystko8067 Месяц назад +1

    as you said that furness railway was the railway that ravenclas and eskdale railway was conected to and that bert was built in 1890s that means that edward could have met bert before coming to sodor

  • @permvw
    @permvw 2 года назад

    Love the opening theme to Herbie Goes To Monte Carlo is used here, it’s always great to here it 👍

  • @moonbugmattel5479
    @moonbugmattel5479 2 года назад

    You really got me with the Unlucky Tug thumbnail...

  • @amitysluzara2022
    @amitysluzara2022 2 года назад

    The lore of the Aresdale Railway is honestly fascinating

  • @Mac_Spector
    @Mac_Spector 2 года назад +1

    Oh wow, this was done super well! Love the smallies
    P.S. Can you do another everything wrong with? It's my favorite series of your's and it just makes my day every time I watch it

  • @moeeyeguy531
    @moeeyeguy531 2 года назад

    It may not get as many views, but this is way better than any Accidents Will Happen music video. I’m excited to see more from this series.

  • @shannenh.l265
    @shannenh.l265 Год назад

    "The Fat Gauge" caught me off guard 😂

  • @OwenAnimatingandGaming
    @OwenAnimatingandGaming 2 года назад

    2:05
    Sam: “All but 1 engine”
    Smudger: “yo, what about me, they also friggin left me!”

  • @WillThomas199.2
    @WillThomas199.2 2 года назад +1

    This is very unexpected but very cool. Really interesting as well, very well done.

  • @allisonkrueger8330
    @allisonkrueger8330 2 года назад

    10:33 Peter Sam’s face when he says “Arlesdale” lol😂

  • @ezarailfans8057
    @ezarailfans8057 2 года назад +1

    Finally youre return

  • @wisconsincentralrrfan298
    @wisconsincentralrrfan298 2 года назад

    Great explanation and video!

  • @Jade2781
    @Jade2781 2 года назад +8

    Rather based sir, rather based.

  • @officialmediamike
    @officialmediamike 2 года назад +1

    Intelligently made. I subscribed to your channel as a major Thomas fan.

  • @YurtFerguson
    @YurtFerguson 2 года назад

    I like it, great job! You got my subscription.

  • @Lucat_Here
    @Lucat_Here 2 года назад +2

    When I saw the thumbnail I thought I was dreaming Becouse it looked like how The unlucky tug designs his thumbnail and though it was one of his videos

  • @KlaxontheImpailr
    @KlaxontheImpailr Год назад

    I’d love to see a Halloween episode about a ghost knight reacting to seeing sentient trains. 😂

  • @skunkman9815
    @skunkman9815 2 года назад +1

    0:00 that’s the title theme from Herbie goes to Monte Carlo

  • @iivaporeonandiimagikarp492
    @iivaporeonandiimagikarp492 2 года назад

    Nice video! Two things I would like to add is that Faulty whistle seems to be a version of Mike’s whistle. And in the cgi era, the Arlesdale railway was extended to arlesburgh harbor. Still an amazing video!

  • @obey2263
    @obey2263 2 года назад

    holy shit! It's been 84 years since i've heard your voice good sir.

  • @SuperDavidBrothers
    @SuperDavidBrothers 2 года назад

    Nice man! I would like to see you make videos talking about the history of the standard gauge railway, narrow gauge railway, the mountain engines, Wilbert and his bro Sixteen (or at least they look similar to bros), the history of all the road vehicles, and the history of all the diesels please.

  • @masterfarr8265
    @masterfarr8265 2 года назад

    I love these little guys

  • @Hercules658
    @Hercules658 2 года назад +5

    my next railway should be in fat gauge

  • @eagarmp
    @eagarmp 2 года назад +2

    Is it possible to hear more about the culdee fell railway?

  • @ThomasTherobloxwoodentrain
    @ThomasTherobloxwoodentrain 2 года назад +1

    I got a Thomas ad for this lol

  • @moonlightrider24
    @moonlightrider24 2 года назад

    Yay! Finally a return to Sam’s older, more interesting content!

  • @miloseal25
    @miloseal25 2 года назад +2

    I love how Thomas 1 Edward 2 Henry 3 made some stories and put the characters that weren't in the rws books in the storys

  • @VestedUTuber
    @VestedUTuber 2 года назад

    Wilbert Awdry: "I made an extremely deep children's story series that the whole family can enjoy, complete with a focus on just enough realism while still remaining whimsical, high-quality storywriting, attention to detail and massive worldbuilding."
    Mattel: "And I took offense to that."

  • @leefreeman3515
    @leefreeman3515 2 года назад +1

    Love the video, also, could u let me know the name of the music u used in the background in the video? Especially the music u used during 10:18

  • @williambarnett8566
    @williambarnett8566 2 года назад +1

    There’s a reason why sodors legend of the lost treasure is the best Thomas movie

  • @joelightrailway2362
    @joelightrailway2362 2 года назад +1

    Excellent history video of the Arlesdale Railway 👍👍 This lovely little railway my personal favourites from the Railway Series as I’m a fan of smaller railways and I have seen Mike & Burt basis in action at many small heritage lines.

  • @terencewilliammckenna6121
    @terencewilliammckenna6121 2 года назад

    The MRS trackbeds that aren't part of the Arsldale railway are now used as roads or walk places for hikes.

  • @terencewilliammckenna6121
    @terencewilliammckenna6121 2 года назад

    Mid-Sodor, Arsenal, Toby and Thomas and Duck's lines, Harwick

  • @MrPlaylist41244
    @MrPlaylist41244 2 года назад +2

    The CFR would make a good video

  • @TonsOfTrackmasters
    @TonsOfTrackmasters 2 года назад

    very cool

  • @theenigmaticst7572
    @theenigmaticst7572 2 года назад

    Nice video! I'm just wondering how you worked out that the first story in Jock the New Engine was set in 1967? Last time I read the book, it didn't seem that the first story was set directly after Small Railway Engines, but admittedly it has been a while since I read the books!

  • @MayoHosko
    @MayoHosko 2 года назад

    I’d love to see this same concept with the skarloey railway

  • @DOTD7382
    @DOTD7382 2 года назад

    "Fat Gauge"
    I'm dead XD

  • @miguelangeloaguila4140
    @miguelangeloaguila4140 5 месяцев назад

    Mid Sodor and Arlesdale Railway Engines:
    The Mid Sodor Railway:
    The Railway Series:
    - Duke
    - Stanley
    - Falcon
    - Stuart
    The Model Series:
    - Duke
    - Bertram
    - Smudger
    - Freddie
    - Proteus
    - Falcon
    - Stuart
    The Arlesdale Railway:
    The Railway Series:
    - Rex
    - Mike
    - Bert
    - Frank
    - Jock
    The CGI series:
    - Rex
    - Mike
    - Bert

  • @thomasfan5298
    @thomasfan5298 2 года назад

    17:18 the railway where Edward work before coming to Sodor

  • @aJunctionMalfunctionProduction
    @aJunctionMalfunctionProduction 2 года назад +1

    Finally! Someone else has the same grievances that I do about the continuity of Jock The New Engine! :-P
    I for one would personally fancy seeing some love and attention given to Sodor’s various people. Such as the Regaby Family, where the 6th Lord Regaby was the NWR’s 1st Chairman. Or about the Norramby family, where The Earl of Sodor gave his namesake to Duke.
    Actually its quite interesting too with what family tree history Awdry created. It's noted that Charles Laxey is related to Peter Dreswick, son of Nicholas Dreswick. Who in turn had a descendant married Sir Stephen Topham Hatt, that being Helen Margaret. And of course, Sir Stephen Topham Hatt’s grandfather married Jane Brown, daughter of Sir Handel Brown I. Sir Topham & Lady Jane Hatt had a daughter named Barbra, which married Lord Albert Regaby.
    Basically, everyone is inbred. You can thank me later for this sheer volume of information you probably didn’t want to know.
    Anyhow, I thought the video was pretty good. Though, when mentioning the Arlesdale Railway’s stations, you forgot to mention Ballamoddey and King Orry’s Bridge. I definitely enjoyed how everything was formatted. But I think personally you could’ve talked more about Arlesburgh Harbour & its Castle. How the ballasting processing plant is at Killdane. Finer details like that. That being said you don’t want the video to be too long. Oh yes, and Coronation Scot was a good music choice. Alright, I’ll shut up now.
    I look forward to seeing more videos from you! :-)

  • @littlewesternbranchline852
    @littlewesternbranchline852 2 года назад +1

    Yes

  • @SodorStudiosAndCoProductions
    @SodorStudiosAndCoProductions 2 года назад

    4:02 *FAT GAUGE IM LITERALLY SPEECHLESS 😳😳😳*

  • @victoriamaynard722
    @victoriamaynard722 2 года назад

    it cool hopefully you can upload more

  • @realchristian77010
    @realchristian77010 Год назад

    Shame that Frank and Jock are didn't appeared in the CGI series, along with the Arlesdale trio; Mike, Bert, and Rex (at the Sodor's Legend of The Lost Treasure special at first of course)..

  • @kikicallahan3662
    @kikicallahan3662 Год назад

    Please do a video about the Mid Sodor Railway

  • @miguelangeloaguila4140
    @miguelangeloaguila4140 5 месяцев назад

    Mid Sodor and Arlesdale Railway Engines:
    The Mid Sodor Railway:
    The Railway Series:
    - Duke
    - Stanley
    - Falcon
    - Stuart
    The Model Series:
    - Duke
    - Bertram
    - Smudger
    - Freddie
    - Proteus
    - Falcon
    - Stuart

  • @ryanstephenkristoferkearns1319
    @ryanstephenkristoferkearns1319 2 года назад

    I remember seeing a ertl toy of Frank and Jock years ago.

  • @skarloeyexpress4353
    @skarloeyexpress4353 2 года назад

    everyones probably saying this but do the mid sodor, skarloey and culdee fell railway (possibly in order of their openings, mid sodor, then skarloey, then culdee fell)

  • @animeboy9307
    @animeboy9307 7 месяцев назад

    Didn't MSR terminated at King Orry's Bridge? The Station near Peel Godred

  • @BriceInkling138
    @BriceInkling138 Год назад +1

    I never realized until after watching the video for the first time, there were clunky continuity errors. How can you screw up continuity within the Railway Series timeline? Simple! Placing only one story to take place during 1975, with the last two taking place in 1976. What a complete fuck up that was, even on Christopher Awdry's part.

  • @islesofforeignrails7917
    @islesofforeignrails7917 2 года назад +1

    From sci-fi elements from a terrible era to a dumbed-down toddler drivel reboot with lazy writing from Nelvana (who have people who don't not have involvement with the source material aside from Rick Suaville) and the characters being cartoonish tiny Chuggington 2.0 rejects (with wacky rubbery psychics using their wheels as limbs in a disturbing manner) aside of the "grown-up" characters being anything but locomotives from the motif.
    What we are glad of what the series and books establish like with the Ravenglass and Eskdale Railway, Talyllyn Railway and Snowdon Railway (despite not appearing the series like the two) as all gauges are considered, railway insafractures detailed in events and time period and how much the lore was ahead of the TV Series when the writers actually did take notes of the historical surrondings.

  • @Goobgoodgoob
    @Goobgoodgoob 5 месяцев назад

    Fat Gage got me rolling

  • @NoobThatBuilds
    @NoobThatBuilds 11 месяцев назад

    I want someone to try to make a representation of what would the arlesdale railway and the engines look like in the model series

  • @miguelangeloaguila4140
    @miguelangeloaguila4140 6 месяцев назад

    Can you do the Skarloey and North-Western Railway next.

  • @saladtosser558
    @saladtosser558 2 года назад +2

    SamTheTrainFan was based on River Dan The Main Man

    • @TPJ.
      @TPJ. 2 года назад +1

      Doorknob 123, eye gee you!

  • @TheStickCollector
    @TheStickCollector 2 года назад

    pretty neat

  • @DaviCFR2021
    @DaviCFR2021 2 года назад

    Talk about the Culdee fell railway please

  • @Whizz8907
    @Whizz8907 2 года назад

    Am I tripping or is that flute playing Beautiful Girls by Sean Kingston at the end

  • @emmanuel7600
    @emmanuel7600 2 года назад

    Hello i now where Jock the yellow engine from the arlesdale railway in the book railway from the Rev w. Awdry work in Real life. He is a Northern Rock 2-6-2 steam locomotive and He works on the Ravenglass and Eskdale railway you can watch it on RUclips.

  • @terencewilliammckenna6121
    @terencewilliammckenna6121 2 года назад

    So was it Dec 31st in 1946 when the last mine flooded, and then Jan 1st in 1947 when the MSR closed down?

  • @ImmortalAbsol
    @ImmortalAbsol 2 месяца назад

    Part of me just wants to see miniature, narrow and standard sitting in a line.