Despite his short screen time, I think Jack is one the most tragic characters in the series. And while it's unlikely, he has the potential to build upon his small scenes to have an impactful arc in a future game.
Because of his already tragic upbringing I think his next “arc” is actually being able to live a normal life. John and Arthur weren’t so lucky but then again they still chose to live that life. Almost everything bad that happened to Jack was the result of others choices, never his own. He deserves to be able to settle down and live normal while he’s still young
Jack was a victim of gang violence. He had to grow up witnessing people getting murdered then the last thing he sees is his father covered in blood and bullet holes. It was a tough upbringing and I wouldn't blame him for any action he takes
@@josephstalin2606 Late reply, but if there was a Jack-lead game, I envision his arc would be ultimately for him to finally get control of his life. With a high honor path where he's finally able to heal and find a stable, peaceful life as a writer & maybe with a family. And a low honor path where he comes into his own as a new Dutch Van der Linde type in a world of organized crime in urban cities. Cementing his life tragedy by dooming him into the same fate as fellow gang members all because he happened to be born in a gang in the first place. But ultimately, it'd still be himself choosing to take that path, should the player go that route. Also I see what you're saying about Jack's life being out of his control & I agree but tbf, I'd also say Arthur & John's lives to an extent. They were only put into position to actively live that criminal lifestyle by their environment or parental influences in their life. John's father was this seeming drunken wanderer going from town to town and presumably starting up trouble until he got killed in a bar fight. After that John had no choice but to start stealing until he was found Dutch at just age 11. While Arthur's was an active criminal who may've taken him around with him as he hopped towns which would make him witness to violence, threat and robbery until Lyle himself got killed. Leaving Arthur to fend off for himself the only way he's seen how until again, Dutch came into his life at age 14.
Arthur was like an uncle to him but he was sure forgotten. The real unforgotten person is his father, John Marston. Now that I think about it, RDR 2 wasn't about Arthur at all, it was about Dutch and his drifting to a psychotic personality that led to his gang's downfall
@@Account-ow6rzArthur is definitely not forgotten since Jack mentions him like 3 times in the epilogue which is only 4 years before rdr1s story, if Jack still remembered him when he was 12 he’ll remember him for a long time, especially since Arthur meant more to him than Dutch or Bill or Javier did, but obviously not more than his own father. I also agree that rdr2 main story was the gangs fall and the changing times, with Arthur being the lens we see it from and his own story is kind of a sub plot than a main one, hence the multiple endings since Arthur is really ambiguous and can be played any way and still be canon
Jack was just in 11 missions but was the most important character Because of him being kidnaped John understaned that he was Jack father Because of Arthur not wanted to Jack being an orphan they discovered real rat Because of Jack John killed Bill, Javier and Dutch Jack killed Ross
Jack deserves so much more appreciation, it sucks that he gets so overshadowed by Arthur and John when his story is just as tragic, if not, more so than theirs. Arthur and John at least had people they loved with them through most of their journeys and hardships, all the way to their final days. Jack was left with absolutely nothing by the end. His entire life was shaped by the decisions of people around him, and when he's finally alone, with no one else by his side remaining.. he chooses to do the only thing he can think of since he has nothing left anymore. But on a good note, unlike Arthur and John's stories, Jack is still young and he's not living on borrowed time... so there's still hope for him, it's not too late, if he remembers everything his family, Arthur and others have sacrificed for him, then he can still try to move on and find something else to live for outside of their influences if he allows himself to. But that's entirely up to Jack whether he wants to follow down the same road or try to break free from the cycle. Killing Ross was just 1 step, fortunaly one he can still backtrack from since Ross was just a retired old man by the end. He's still an amazing character.. and while unlikely, i still hope he does live a good life down the road.
Red dead is without a doubt the greatest video game story ever told and one of the greatest pieces of literature in human history. If it was a tv series somehow it would easily surpass game of thrones, the walking dead, and breaking bad without a sweat. It is truly an American epic. Rdr2 serves to make the first game so bittersweet and ultimately tragic. So much of this series is about cycles, being unable to escape your past, of men failing against the world, and ultimately their own sin nature, or at least the consequences thereof. Arthur and John succeeded in their own ways, for what was right, for family. And poor Jack, in a way the main focus of the entire story, or rather the shining light that helps our main characters pursue redemption, as he stands for innocence and a hopeful future, takes revenge into his own hands. By choosing vengeance for his father, and in a way the rest of the gang against the government and so called “civilization”, he continues the cycle. Maybe he stops after Ross and continues his life as a writer or lawyer or as just a simple man of the land, but nothing can take back the fact that he murdered a man, regardless of that man’s character. I want to hope for an honorable Jack, but at the same time it could be that he undid all that everyone fought for. He may have become exactly what his parents didn’t want him to be. I love seeing the different takes on what happens afterwards and what the story embodies to different people. Hopefully there will be a Rdr1 remake so we can relive all of those amazing memories.
@@Tostito422 Javier might potentially be alive if it's Canon he got captured instead of killed, then again they may have just hanged him as soon as they got back into America
This is the best video about RDR i ever seen. I can feel the love and dedication you put on this. The emotion of Deadman's Gun with the scenes are just perfect. Very well work my friend.
Holy shit this Video is absolutely amazing! Brilliant shots between the different scenes well timed story cuts and fits to the song. Honestly one of my favourite Mini-Short films ever on RUclips!
I want jack to have his story so badly he hardly has a story unless you leave side missions for him he has so much potential and hey he probably could meet Sadie in Mexico considering she said she'd go rock star please rdr3 for Jack
"They leaked about Adie & "Jack" Marston in RDR3 , also the release for the development of GTA 6 in 2025 ." "Red Dead Redemption 3 would be around six years until 2030-2032 (Which is a very long time)" "Due to limited resources of Unreal-Engine's Game Development "Technically needs newer features of game development" (They may use the same thing like RDR2 probably)"
The most satisfying moment out of both games is using the Mauser pistol (the same pistol his father my John Marston wielded) to shoot Mr. Ross 15 times in the face, then looting him for $400.00 God Bless Jack Marston. Excellent tribute. 😎👍 Peace ✌🏻
I think the few years between rdr1s ending and epilogue is a rich territory for another RDR. There's still enough "wild west" to work with, and I want to know why Abigail died so soon. I suspect revenge for killing Milton. The whole gang was informed that Abigail killed him by Arthur, so any one of them could have leaked that to the pinks. They could easily do what they did with RDR2 to give RDR1 more depth, by making that last mission killing Ross hold even more weight.
Great vid. Further convinces me that RDR3 HAS TO FINISH JACKS STORY. He got revenge, not redemption. Mexico was still wild until the 1970s. There's so much that could be done with his story.
I don’t know if you take requests or not, but can you make a tribute to the villains of the MonsterVerse with the song “Override & Conquer” by DAGames?
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Despite his short screen time, I think Jack is one the most tragic characters in the series. And while it's unlikely, he has the potential to build upon his small scenes to have an impactful arc in a future game.
Because of his already tragic upbringing I think his next “arc” is actually being able to live a normal life. John and Arthur weren’t so lucky but then again they still chose to live that life. Almost everything bad that happened to Jack was the result of others choices, never his own. He deserves to be able to settle down and live normal while he’s still young
Jack was a victim of gang violence. He had to grow up witnessing people getting murdered then the last thing he sees is his father covered in blood and bullet holes. It was a tough upbringing and I wouldn't blame him for any action he takes
@@josephstalin2606 Late reply, but if there was a Jack-lead game, I envision his arc would be ultimately for him to finally get control of his life. With a high honor path where he's finally able to heal and find a stable, peaceful life as a writer & maybe with a family. And a low honor path where he comes into his own as a new Dutch Van der Linde type in a world of organized crime in urban cities. Cementing his life tragedy by dooming him into the same fate as fellow gang members all because he happened to be born in a gang in the first place. But ultimately, it'd still be himself choosing to take that path, should the player go that route.
Also I see what you're saying about Jack's life being out of his control & I agree but tbf, I'd also say Arthur & John's lives to an extent. They were only put into position to actively live that criminal lifestyle by their environment or parental influences in their life. John's father was this seeming drunken wanderer going from town to town and presumably starting up trouble until he got killed in a bar fight. After that John had no choice but to start stealing until he was found Dutch at just age 11. While Arthur's was an active criminal who may've taken him around with him as he hopped towns which would make him witness to violence, threat and robbery until Lyle himself got killed. Leaving Arthur to fend off for himself the only way he's seen how until again, Dutch came into his life at age 14.
@@themadtitan7603Respond to my comment
Edgar Ross thought he killed the rest of the Van der Linde gang, but he forgot one thing.
*Jack Marston.*
in my own head canon jack is also wearing arthur's jacket so wherever he goes arthur and john will be with him
He liked Arthur sure but not that much 💀
Arthur was like an uncle to him but he was sure forgotten. The real unforgotten person is his father, John Marston. Now that I think about it, RDR 2 wasn't about Arthur at all, it was about Dutch and his drifting to a psychotic personality that led to his gang's downfall
@@Account-ow6rzArthur is definitely not forgotten since Jack mentions him like 3 times in the epilogue which is only 4 years before rdr1s story, if Jack still remembered him when he was 12 he’ll remember him for a long time, especially since Arthur meant more to him than Dutch or Bill or Javier did, but obviously not more than his own father. I also agree that rdr2 main story was the gangs fall and the changing times, with Arthur being the lens we see it from and his own story is kind of a sub plot than a main one, hence the multiple endings since Arthur is really ambiguous and can be played any way and still be canon
I also like to think the scarf hes wearing is the same one or similar to Dutch's
That transition from Jack shooting Ross to John shooting micah was perfect 👌
I honestly dare to say the story of the RDR series is the best story ever told in videogame history.
@Keknov yep!
Rdr is the best series in gaming history and rdr is the greatest game that ever made
Nah.
Rdr story is great
But The Black Ops zombies story is the best
@@Ahyestheno No rdr is better
@@Ahyestheno apaga isso que dá tempo
The most perfect deadman's gun music video
Thank you
Jack was just in
11 missions but was the most important character
Because of him being kidnaped John understaned that he was Jack father
Because of Arthur not wanted to Jack being an orphan they discovered real rat
Because of Jack John killed Bill, Javier and Dutch
Jack killed Ross
Yeah
Jack deserves so much more appreciation, it sucks that he gets so overshadowed by Arthur and John when his story is just as tragic, if not, more so than theirs.
Arthur and John at least had people they loved with them through most of their journeys and hardships, all the way to their final days.
Jack was left with absolutely nothing by the end. His entire life was shaped by the decisions of people around him, and when he's finally alone, with no one else by his side remaining.. he chooses to do the only thing he can think of since he has nothing left anymore.
But on a good note, unlike Arthur and John's stories, Jack is still young and he's not living on borrowed time... so there's still hope for him, it's not too late, if he remembers everything his family, Arthur and others have sacrificed for him, then he can still try to move on and find something else to live for outside of their influences if he allows himself to.
But that's entirely up to Jack whether he wants to follow down the same road or try to break free from the cycle. Killing Ross was just 1 step, fortunaly one he can still backtrack from since Ross was just a retired old man by the end.
He's still an amazing character.. and while unlikely, i still hope he does live a good life down the road.
Jack’s story is emotional as John and Arthur . The line that John says don’t look back he learned that from Arthur
Red dead is without a doubt the greatest video game story ever told and one of the greatest pieces of literature in human history. If it was a tv series somehow it would easily surpass game of thrones, the walking dead, and breaking bad without a sweat. It is truly an American epic. Rdr2 serves to make the first game so bittersweet and ultimately tragic. So much of this series is about cycles, being unable to escape your past, of men failing against the world, and ultimately their own sin nature, or at least the consequences thereof. Arthur and John succeeded in their own ways, for what was right, for family. And poor Jack, in a way the main focus of the entire story, or rather the shining light that helps our main characters pursue redemption, as he stands for innocence and a hopeful future, takes revenge into his own hands. By choosing vengeance for his father, and in a way the rest of the gang against the government and so called “civilization”, he continues the cycle. Maybe he stops after Ross and continues his life as a writer or lawyer or as just a simple man of the land, but nothing can take back the fact that he murdered a man, regardless of that man’s character. I want to hope for an honorable Jack, but at the same time it could be that he undid all that everyone fought for. He may have become exactly what his parents didn’t want him to be.
I love seeing the different takes on what happens afterwards and what the story embodies to different people. Hopefully there will be a Rdr1 remake so we can relive all of those amazing memories.
Too this day it still shocks me that he is the only one
He might not be, we don’t know if Charles and Sadie are alive and Pearson and Mary Beth, even Tilly
@@Tostito422 Javier might potentially be alive if it's Canon he got captured instead of killed, then again they may have just hanged him as soon as they got back into America
And the award for most underrated video on RUclips goes to...
Nah the “over my dead body”. As Jack becomes a gunslinger over her grave 👏
Yeah sad
Jack chose the wrong path like the rest of the gang
When jack looked at that gun I feel he could hear John, Arthur, Abigail and Hosa telling him this isnt what we want for you. Revenge is a fools game.
Even when john had a chance he refused to kill dutch he loved dutch to the end same with arthut
This is the best video about RDR i ever seen.
I can feel the love and dedication you put on this. The emotion of Deadman's Gun with the scenes are just perfect.
Very well work my friend.
Thank you so much
Holy shit this Video is absolutely amazing! Brilliant shots between the different scenes well timed story cuts and fits to the song. Honestly one of my favourite Mini-Short films ever on RUclips!
Wow, thank you so much, I really appreciate it
I want jack to have his story so badly he hardly has a story unless you leave side missions for him he has so much potential and hey he probably could meet Sadie in Mexico considering she said she'd go rock star please rdr3 for Jack
Jack looked at the gun an after playing rdr2 I believe jack was thinking of Arthur an his dad John that part hit me deep
He was thinking of the path he'd have to lead like his father
This is great man! Good work
Thanks a lot!
"They leaked about Adie & "Jack" Marston in RDR3 , also the release for the development of GTA 6 in 2025 ."
"Red Dead Redemption 3 would be around six years until 2030-2032 (Which is a very long time)"
"Due to limited resources of Unreal-Engine's Game Development "Technically needs newer features of game development" (They may use the same thing like RDR2 probably)"
Even as a kid he put up a good fight when John died just him john and the old man one last stand sons of Dutch oh and Dutch's uncle haha
The most satisfying moment out of both games is using the Mauser pistol (the same pistol his father my John Marston wielded) to shoot Mr. Ross 15 times in the face, then looting him for $400.00 God Bless Jack Marston. Excellent tribute. 😎👍 Peace ✌🏻
Great video man.
My brother I know you stopped making videos but know that you are a great RUclipsr and you did a good job while it lasted.
Thank you, man, I haven't necessarily stopped making videos, I'm just low on inspiration, but thank you I really appreciate comments like these :)
This is beautiful
Great video, I’m glad my comment inspired this
You trully captured the essence of that scene and Jack's story in that comment
Nice video!
We need a RDR3 with Jack
i can`t stop my tears🥲
It's so heartbreaking. Mrs. Abigail just wanted her son to have a better life. The Pinkertons took more than a bounty.
W video bro
Video is underated
Let Jack be WHO He wants abygail
If they make a future game, Jack should be the main character.
I think the few years between rdr1s ending and epilogue is a rich territory for another RDR. There's still enough "wild west" to work with, and I want to know why Abigail died so soon. I suspect revenge for killing Milton. The whole gang was informed that Abigail killed him by Arthur, so any one of them could have leaked that to the pinks.
They could easily do what they did with RDR2 to give RDR1 more depth, by making that last mission killing Ross hold even more weight.
That’s a kid that grew up a tough life I mean tough made him tough
Great vid. Further convinces me that RDR3 HAS TO FINISH JACKS STORY. He got revenge, not redemption. Mexico was still wild until the 1970s. There's so much that could be done with his story.
He got redemption for his family and gang not for himself
I can relate to jack in the way that both of my parents are dead at a young age him 19 me 21
My father died when I was 19
💪🏼
the worst thing about his video it doesnt have one million views
Хорошее видео! 👍
My headcannon is that Jack refers to himself as Kid Van Der Linde
John needs his own story. Desperately.
Allow me to introduce you to "Red Dead Redemption 1"
Rdr1 is John’s story do u mean Jack ?
He might not be the last one there still sadie charles tilly mary beth
Considering he was 4 in rdr2, it's safe to assume he will outlive all of the rest
And Pearson revrand top hat dude
The only lasting one might just be Charles but he could also be dead
But the average lifespan was shorter back then
Men don't usually rely on other people
Wouldn't Charles still be around he'd only be like in his late 30s or early 40s by now
Unless he got tracked down in Canada he might be dead
@@tailsbread god I hope not Charles was one of my favourites
A lot of people would, but Jack is shown alive and remained an outlaw
Swanson's also sticking around, and is a successful priest, sl Jack has options even.
I don’t know if you take requests or not, but can you make a tribute to the villains of the MonsterVerse with the song “Override & Conquer” by DAGames?
Jack marston got away with killing edgar ross
I have a theory that Jack is actually Dutch’s son.
No
Been proven wrong
please shut
Dude stop it’s stupid
Just because his beard is like Dutch doesn’t mean he is Dutch’s son