Shure Handheld Vocal Mics Compared: SM58 vs. Beta 58A vs. Beta 87A vs. SM86

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    If you’ve ever wondered what the sonic difference is between four of Shure’s most popular handheld vocal mics, this video is for you! Join Mitch Gallagher and vocalist Marcus Scott as they compare the SM58, Beta 58A, Beta 87A, and SM86 handheld vocal microphones.
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    0:00 - Intro
    1:10 - Singing Through the Shure SM58
    1:43 - Singing Through the Shure SM86
    2:13 - Singing Through the Shure Beta 87A
    2:34 - Singing Through the Shure Beta 58A
    3:07 - First Impressions
    3:42 - Listening Back to the Shure SM58
    3:54 - Listening Back to the Shure SM86
    4:03 - Listening Back to the Shure SM 87A
    4:14 - Listening Back to the Shure Beta 58A
    4:24 - Comparing Tracks
    6:46 - Final Thoughts
    7:09 - Thanks for Watching!
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  • @sweetwater
    @sweetwater  3 года назад +23

    You Shure can't go wrong with any of these exceptional handheld mics! If you enjoy videos like this, let us know in the comments and by hitting those like and subscribe buttons!

  • @ParadNorthProd
    @ParadNorthProd 3 года назад +38

    The 87 had the most detail and could then be mixed to sound awesome. But the 86 was almost final pop mix ready.

    • @markbuzard
      @markbuzard 3 года назад +5

      I keep going back to the 86

  • @GrandNebSmada
    @GrandNebSmada Год назад +11

    A bunch of the guys I work with have always told me the SM86 was a bad sounding mic and so I just also believed it since it was more than one of them. After watching this I can confirm they have no idea what they are talking about that is easily the best sounding mic out the of bunch. I've now also watched about 10 other videos with that mic and it truly is a hidden gem that people seem to overlook.

  • @scottzellner2382
    @scottzellner2382 Год назад +7

    I love our 86s. Nice and airy but not too bright.

  • @HorstAlex
    @HorstAlex Год назад

    Thanks so much for taking and sharing with others and me ❤

  • @johnwade7430
    @johnwade7430 3 года назад +2

    Lovely performances - thanks you.

  • @iamantoniofernandez
    @iamantoniofernandez 2 года назад

    fantastic review. Thank you

  • @Mr_A_Mia
    @Mr_A_Mia 3 года назад +14

    Great voice...great video. Thx Sweetwater.

  • @FVDaudio
    @FVDaudio 3 года назад +13

    Man... The Beta58 captured it all ... The Beta87 sounds like the high end was purposely boosted and that, I don't liked, but the trusty old sm86 sounds like the concert. Man 👏🏻🎶

  • @AlvesterGarnett
    @AlvesterGarnett 3 года назад +5

    Came for the mic comparison but got a great tune and performance too!

  • @TheSoulsandRevive
    @TheSoulsandRevive 3 года назад +2

    Great video as per usual. Big fan of Shure mics, cheers

  • @patrickcarroll1754
    @patrickcarroll1754 3 года назад +3

    I'm in. Please tell me where I can pick up Marcus's record. Great way to distinguish what each of these tools capture, Sweetwater. Much love. And Mitch continues to kick ass

  • @user-nm6me3mh7m
    @user-nm6me3mh7m 3 года назад +8

    I wish y'all would make more videos like this with vocal mics!!!

  • @salthedrummer1
    @salthedrummer1 2 года назад +1

    Way to go Marcus, you sound great...!

  • @ericman4096
    @ericman4096 Год назад +6

    Beta58 and SM86 both are great !!!

  • @eskimophoto
    @eskimophoto 2 года назад

    wonderful comparisons.

  • @pjmuck
    @pjmuck 2 года назад +20

    I've owned 3 of the 4 mics here. The SM86 is arguably Shure's best kept secret. As great a vocalist as he is, you can hear his comfort level on this mic. The Beta 87 was my main mic for years, but I found it accentuates the throatiness and detail of my voice which often made me sound hoarser than I really was. I'm liking the SM86 a lot. (Beta 58a is a great mic too).

    • @ninjabluewings
      @ninjabluewings 2 года назад +2

      Yes I have the 86 myself and I agree TOTALLY!! it's certainly Shure's "best kept secret" not seen very often and highly over looked too

  • @markallen381
    @markallen381 3 года назад +2

    An exceptional singer, Marcus Scott, Soul Man, who was captured best on the Shure Betas! My favorite is the Shure Beta 87A!

  • @SM57
    @SM57 3 года назад +1

    Great performance 👏

  • @marioCazares
    @marioCazares 3 года назад +1

    What an amazing voice!

  • @LorneVignettes
    @LorneVignettes Год назад

    This is a great microphone 🎤 comparison. This guy from Sweetwater is super knowledgeable. They were smart hiring him.

  • @starcraft5379
    @starcraft5379 3 года назад +5

    I still have both the SM86 and Beta 87A. Superb microphones!! But I traded my Beta58A for the Sennheiser E935 as I find it clearer and more crisp. SM58 is a reliable mic that fits on certain types of music and situations but for me, it's the least favourite.

  • @philvorobets
    @philvorobets 2 года назад

    Thanks 👍

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic 3 года назад +3

    Ive always l8ked the 87a.

  • @alvinhoang1800
    @alvinhoang1800 2 года назад

    Great Video! Can you please do a comparison between Sennheiser e865 vs e945? Thank you.

  • @jandersilva9895
    @jandersilva9895 3 года назад +7

    58A sounds like tape, amazing voice

  • @rv7641
    @rv7641 2 года назад +4

    All sound great but that 58A Beta is amazing

  • @StarQueenEstrella
    @StarQueenEstrella 3 года назад +19

    If it was up to me, I’d use the Beta 58A. It captures the most satisfactory mix of Marcus Scott’s high notes, the grit in his voice, and the emotion within his singing.
    But it’s like Mitch Gallagher said: it has to be the right mic for the right singer.

  • @mediocreman2
    @mediocreman2 Год назад +2

    Wow that SM-86 was so great. Clear winner for his voice.

  • @EddieInzauto
    @EddieInzauto 2 года назад

    Came for a mic comparison; not familiar with Marcus…but diggin the sweet Terrence Trent D’Arby vibes!

  • @FirebrandVOCALS
    @FirebrandVOCALS Год назад +3

    The sm86 was perfect for his voice 🎤💯💯👌

  • @NLongleng
    @NLongleng 3 года назад +4

    I love the SM 86....

  • @guitarest3
    @guitarest3 2 года назад +7

    Overall the sm86 got my vote

  • @1loveMusic2003
    @1loveMusic2003 5 месяцев назад

    He's crazy good!

  • @AdamGotheridge
    @AdamGotheridge 3 года назад +4

    I think Mr. Scott made them all sound great.

  • @dannyho6786
    @dannyho6786 Год назад +1

    58a is one with most presence tome. But this dude would sound great thru anything even a radio shack mic !

  • @mementomori7207
    @mementomori7207 Год назад +1

    Where can I find this song…. It’s so good

  • @moon-lf5le
    @moon-lf5le 3 года назад +1

    Nice voice

  • @billesposito2112
    @billesposito2112 11 месяцев назад

    I like the 86 Wow . I have the 58. beta 58 and beta 87a . Now I'm getting an 86. Nice shootout.

  • @theiammike123
    @theiammike123 2 года назад +3

    came for the test. stayed for the singer. 😁

  • @jehovahuponyou
    @jehovahuponyou 2 года назад +3

    SM86 HAS IT ALL - THAT IS MY CHOICE!!!!!!!

  • @JcSontinou
    @JcSontinou Год назад

    Prices for these 4 mics please?

  • @randomrandy3059
    @randomrandy3059 2 года назад

    Can you use these like reporter mics

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic 3 года назад +1

    Isnt the 87a the later of the 86?

  • @hadleymanmusic
    @hadleymanmusic 3 года назад +2

    My dogs in the hallway singin along

  • @sheireland3737
    @sheireland3737 Год назад

    Ooo Nice singer. Great song.

  • @SoMyungJung
    @SoMyungJung 3 года назад +4

    The Beta 58A has more boxiness in the low mids.
    Didn't like that much the sibilances with the SM86
    SM58 is pretty well balanced but the Beta 87A suited best for his voice. Warm and defined lows, good presence and the sibilance is kinda manageable.

  • @maomao180
    @maomao180 2 года назад +4

    SM86 is so underrated.

    • @justinTime077
      @justinTime077 2 года назад +3

      I think I must agree. I just took the plunge on one, and I am very much in love with it. Hearing this, I don’t regret deciding to not be upsold to the beta 87

  • @UnleashDLion
    @UnleashDLion 2 года назад +2

    honestly, maybe in person it wouldve been more obvious but when you add youtube audio compression to it, it's very subtle.

  • @Makta972
    @Makta972 7 месяцев назад

    Beta58A And Sm86 for me.

  • @enrix00
    @enrix00 3 года назад

    58A is amazing

  • @thecurdge5934
    @thecurdge5934 3 года назад +1

    Shout out to Marcus Scott he killed his takes !

  • @ForteeTwoTwenty
    @ForteeTwoTwenty 3 года назад

    For his voice both SM’s are the better match! Sm86 is perfect as is, and im shure the SM58 could be slightly EQ’d and be very close to as good :)

  • @elvega1244
    @elvega1244 Месяц назад

    Detalle- en vivo con percusión detrás más amplificadores cual responderá mejor a la retroalimentscion? Dejo esto por aquí y me iré en silencio

  • @0305theo
    @0305theo Месяц назад

    Usually the vocalists prefer beta 58a, than 86, when I give them a choice

  • @nightowl-dz3sm
    @nightowl-dz3sm 5 месяцев назад

    A real singer!

  • @blueckaym
    @blueckaym 3 года назад

    So which Shure mic would be best for deep bass vocals?
    I ask because all of these start from 50Hz, and in addition they fall-off quite in the low end (lets say below 200Hz which is around G3, which about half my range C2-G3) ?

    • @sweetwater
      @sweetwater  3 года назад +1

      Hey, Blueckaym. Thank you for reaching out. My preferences for low bass vocals in the Shure line are the beta 87 capsule and the KSM9 capsule. I have worked with a lot of quartets and vocal groups, and they picked up the extended low end range extremely well. You do have to work the proximity effect on them, but they will cover the range very well. Depending on what exactly you are looking for, you may have to add a booster and some plug ins, like a lot of the a capella groups do. Reach out if there is anything else we can help with.
      Thanks,
      Grant Embury, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 1647, Grant_embury@Sweetwater.com

    • @blueckaym
      @blueckaym 3 года назад

      @@sweetwater , Hey thank you for the quick response!
      I've actually been wondering between the beta 58a & beta 87a as both are compatible with the SLX-D wireless system and being super-cardioids have the proximity effect boosting low tones (currently with some warmup I reach C2, and rarely have problem with D2 /except low volume/ on a good day can reach B1, and hopefully I'll crack that subharmonics technique to get few lower tones ... eventually).
      I see that KSM8 & KSM9 have both SLX-D compatible capsules and are cardioid or both cardio-& super-cardio ... which I would expect to have similar proximity effect, but strangely their freq.resp.charts don't show such things :/
      Btw do you know if capsules are replaceable? For example if I get SLX-D/beta58a and only a capsule beta87a, can I change capsules on the same handheld transmitter or are there hidden quirks?

    • @beejetay
      @beejetay 2 года назад

      @@sweetwater I use the Beta 87a, but I always need to EQ out a lot of mid-range honk because my slight nasal vocal tone seems more pronounced with the 87a.
      Would you suggest a different mic that is better for "slightly nasal" tone singers?

    • @sweetwater
      @sweetwater  2 года назад

      ​@@beejetay Hey, Bill. Thanks for reaching out! The Shure 87A is a great mic, but definitely more sensitive and a bit brighter than most out there because it’s an Electret Condenser Microphone. If you want to stay in the Shure Family try a Beta 58 or even and SM58. My wife is a Soprano vocalist and sounds great on both of those mics. A dynamic mic in general should help you with any kind of “slightly nasal” tones. If you have any other questions, feel free to reach out. Thanks and have a great day!
      Jack Wellington, Sweetwater Sale Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3240, jack_wellington@sweetwater.com

  • @DanielFerreira-hz4cc
    @DanielFerreira-hz4cc Год назад

    Which of these mics would be best for a baritone to sing along with a Boss VE-2 pedal? I'm not sure which one I should buy.

    • @sweetwater
      @sweetwater  Год назад +1

      Hey Daniel, great question! I love recommending Condenser mics for vocalists as they give a much more detail to the voice! The Beta 87A would be my choice as it has a tighter polar pattern than the 86 and should be more focused and isolated for you.
      If you want to talk in more detail, please give me a ring!
      Drake Sobehrad, Sweetwater Sales Engineer, (800) 222-4700 ext. 3271, drake_sobehrad@sweetwater.com

  • @WilliamLunas07
    @WilliamLunas07 3 года назад +3

    SM 86 i love the high pitch

  • @jerryadams5487
    @jerryadams5487 3 года назад

    Be advised u cant hear the difference just by watching video, u really has 2 be directly involved in the studio 2 capture any difference especially $99 mic sounds just as good 1 that cost about $200

  • @davidgeorge1294
    @davidgeorge1294 3 года назад

    Not have problems with feedback? Did he just say that? On what planet does this occur?. Otherwise great video.

  • @wckoek
    @wckoek 9 месяцев назад

    SM86 in my opinion sounded more natural and better with vocal alone, however in the mix with instruments the Beta 58a stands out the most.
    The latter would be more ideal for live band performance.

  • @alexmdrful
    @alexmdrful 2 года назад +1

    In general i like beta 87 on female vocal and beta 58 on male vocal. But for the price the sm86 is definitely worthy

    • @thomas9469
      @thomas9469 3 месяца назад

      I agree with you. Female voice will suite better on 87.

  • @leobardobivianomedia
    @leobardobivianomedia 3 года назад +1

    Where is the Shure Beta 87C?

    • @karstenpe
      @karstenpe 3 года назад

      It's the same as the 87A - except for the polar pattern. And since he isn't moving around the mic and there is no PA it probably wouldn't be relevant to test it out.

  • @vadimmartynyuk
    @vadimmartynyuk 7 месяцев назад

    You just gotta add low end with EQ to sm86 or 87a

  • @keisaboru1155
    @keisaboru1155 3 года назад +1

    i dont prefer the sm 58 . However it its super good for low class mics . 58A propably bruh

  • @JMMinistries
    @JMMinistries 3 года назад +6

    I Love The Highs & Clarity Of The Beta 87A. It's The One We Use For Singing. We use the SM58 For Talking & Podcast Since It's More Richer and pronounced in the lows.
    But To Be Honest. Its A Shure, They All Sound Great @ The End Of The Day!

  • @michael_caz_nyc
    @michael_caz_nyc 3 года назад +1

    Beta 58a - all day.

  • @riszetriple8697
    @riszetriple8697 3 года назад +1

    🎤👏👏👏👏👏👏☝

  • @samirbedelli
    @samirbedelli 3 года назад

    Beta 87A

  • @michaeln2902
    @michaeln2902 2 года назад

    FINAL WHICH MIC IS THE BEST? THE MORE MONEY IS NOT GOOD.WHY? BECAUSE WHEN YOU SELL YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHICH IS THE MORE EXPENSIVE,,,OK...AND THE QUALITY MUST LOOK COMBTABLE

  • @Sagepeh
    @Sagepeh Год назад

    Recently I bought the microphone shure KSM8 in Singapore but I feel that is 👎

  • @DiosDragon1111
    @DiosDragon1111 2 года назад

    2:20 2:40

  • @QuicksilverSG
    @QuicksilverSG 2 года назад

    The differences in microphone on-axis frequency response are not nearly as significant as a mic's low-frequency proximity effect and its variations in off-axis sensitivity and frequency response. To test a mic you need to listen to a vocalist who really knows how to work the mic rather than just sing up close to it.

  • @jerryadams5487
    @jerryadams5487 2 года назад

    How many times I told yall the ONLY different I'm hearing is the different in prices in other words if u didnt put up on the screen which mic being used the difference is NOT $100 to $200 better sounding NOT to me

  • @ITOLDUDA
    @ITOLDUDA 8 месяцев назад

    SM86 sounded the best to me. The 87a was... disappointing. 58a was definitely respectable.

  • @BurningBushPedagogy
    @BurningBushPedagogy 10 месяцев назад

    They were mostly bad, they were too crude, the 86 was a little okay

  • @Neil-Aspinall
    @Neil-Aspinall 3 года назад +4

    Yeah Yeah Yeah, kids, any mic over $80 will do ya fine. The thing about big ol' condenser mics is they look good and make anyone seeing them think that you must be professional. Don't waste your money on expensive mics it's a bit like buying a really expensive audio interface when a $100 jobby will do you fine in the home recording situation.

  • @blueckaym
    @blueckaym 3 года назад +2

    Why instead of singing the same song 4 different times (and do subtle changes unintentionally), just put all the mics next to each other and record single performance.
    Then we'll know that the differences are from the mics

    • @jonathanvenegas7543
      @jonathanvenegas7543 3 года назад +1

      Because then you would need four mic cables and stands, and a four channel input, and more work. You wouldn’t be able to compare gain either since you aren’t sharing the same pre. The way they did it is the best way to do it (go figure they do things the right way). Not to mention there’s a sweet spot with all cardiod dynamic microphones, and having to move further back than you would normally use the mic would remove the actual functionality of it being a HANDHELD microphone

  • @bennettshapiro7711
    @bennettshapiro7711 2 года назад

    This is kind of a badly executed test/comparison. These are all supposed to be live mics. In a live situation, there would be a band playing around the vocalist. So part of what we would want to hear in a test/comparison of these microphones would be how they reject other sounds on stage. Also, how they do rejecting stage monitor sound, giving you gain before feedback. This demonstration showed us none of that. This is much more how these mics would perform in the studio. But no one would ever probably use these mics in the studio. I love the idea of comparing these mics. It’s too bad that this particular execution isn’t particularly helpful.
    Marcus Scott, sounds absolutely fantastic though.

    • @bagel7080
      @bagel7080 2 года назад

      Another thing is, that different voice types need different mics. I wish they would've said which mic they would recommend for different voice types.

    • @ledheavy26
      @ledheavy26 2 года назад +4

      No one would ever use these in a studio? Why not? I guess Bono from U2 is just a nobody.....
      These kind of statements are ridiculous. If you think you can't use "live" mics in the studio you might also believe you can't use a "guitar" mic on a snare drum, or a "vocal" mic on a piano.
      This test wasn't for their live sound characteristics aside from how they sound, which is the most important quality. And yes, I've used the beta58a for vocals live and recorded, they sound great in a mix in both scenarios.

    • @tearitloosetearitloose4670
      @tearitloosetearitloose4670 2 года назад +1

      What are you talking about? These mics have been used in recording studios the world over.

    • @bennettshapiro7711
      @bennettshapiro7711 2 года назад

      @@tearitloosetearitloose4670 as vocal mics? I can think of literally 20 mics I would choose for vocals in the studio over these.

    • @bennettshapiro7711
      @bennettshapiro7711 2 года назад

      @@ledheavy26 Yes Bono used a 58 on his first two records, UNTIL HE LEARNED THERE WERE BETTER MICS. Lmao! I had the privilege of working with Steve Lilywhite on a record, and he explained that in the early days, Bono thought he knew everything.