Common Bad Habits Every Private Pilot Should Unlearn
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2024
- In today's video Liz (Chief CFI) and Brian (CFI) will be discussing Common Bad Habits Every Pilot Should Unlearn, It is easy to form bad habits but difficult to break them.
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Let's not forget about controlling the aircraft taxi speed by reducing power first and then brakes as necessary
Ironically flying the heavy metal the opposite is true because the aircraft tends to taxi nicely at idle power. As a result the brakes are your only option so we allow the aircraft to accelerate to around 25-30th then gently apply the brakes to get back to 10kts.
Riding the brakes can result in a brake and tire fire. Brake and tire fires cannot be extinguished with a small handheld fire extinguisher, you need water. Taxi at idle power.
After I corrected the stick-rudder coordination issue, I always hit gas pedal while making right turns while driving.
lmao
During my check ride, I made the most beautiful soft field landing. Honestly, I thought I almost had a tail strike, but he was thoroughly impressed. Then he says, "Is that how you were taught?" I say "yes", not thinking too much about it. Then he points at the flaps. My heart sunk when I realized I did that perfect landing on the first notch of flaps in the Cessna 172P. He said it didn't matter and passed me, but I can't believe to this day I'd be so irresponsible after all that practice to miss something so important.
Nervous during the test.
I find that cause and effect training is extremely effective. Especially right rudder on takeoff. We talk about the aerodynamics/mechanical causes of the left turning tendencies and I'll notice that if a student doesn't put in right rudder, I'll let the airplane veer off and then correct at the last moment. We'll talk about it once we're out of the traffic pattern so they actually see, feel and experience that mistake. Usually fixes it right then and there.
Excellent video. A very common bad habit in my area is pilots not using the radio at all. Theres a flight school in my area that teaches this bad habit from flight number one, some of their instructors believe that student pilots should focus on flying and not radios which forms the habit of not talking on the radio at all. When i did my ppl training i had to make all the radio calls from my first flight on. The other guys around here that dont use their radio hold the attitude that radios are for non "bush pilots" or "rookies" and just do whatever and the rest of us just have to watch out for them, its a real problem ive had many close calls becsuse of it. It seems to be real common with a lot of super cub guys.
Anyone near an airport hearing a CTAF call for that airport should followup with their own position and intentions.
Great points in this discussion. Thanks guys.
Thanks so much guys! Hmm, I need to watch this video again from time to time......By the way, is good looking outside the plane and enjoying the high altitude vistas birds enjoyed before us for thousands of years!!!
I had fun watching this! You two do great in front of a camera and have real good chemistry together. Thanks for posting, best regards from Brasilia, Brazil.
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great discussion - thanks Liz & Brian. Very impressed with both of these instructors.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I have to say I’m shocked 😳, these are basic things, especially crosswind landing’s you know, we’d regularly practice these on check rides etc. I started flying gliders before transferring to power and I do believed this makes you a better pilot as you get taught very quickly how to fly and handle the aircraft in many different conditions and adapt and grow your situational awareness.
Good points but I hope you realize some bad habits of instructors , which is NOT have this ridiculous "right of passage" attitude where the main intent of the instructor is to look to belittle the student to make the instructor feel empowered. Which is how the instructor was taught so now this is what they are going to do.
My main issue with instructors is to be silent unless there is a REAL emergency. Let the student fly the plane and when you are back on the ground THEN go over the flight.
To often the student is just listening to the instructor and trying to correct so they are naturally going to look at the panel. In those cases the student isn't flying the plane the instructor is.
Great point John we will definitely create a video on that topic!
Yes, I had a CFI that Belittle me. It was toxic in the cockpit. I was a student pilot with like 5 hours of training. I was so scared when that I would make a mistake, like miss an item on the checklist, miss my altitude, or speed. not dial in the frequency in correctly or take to long. He would yell at me. I did my first landing attempt and he had some nasty comment, I agree it was not great and he had to help me but keep the nasty comments away. He got so bad on my last flight with him. I just kept my mouth shut, and when we landed, I secured the plane and then I let him have it. Really hard to find a good CFI. I finally found one.
@@kimberlywentworth9160 Sad story, but i'm also glad you finally found a good instructor!
... Pipers .. .are stable, while the amount of the wing area is just ... ludicrous large, comparing to many other LSA"s, and it's what we all like. As for the 'Squelch', always look from the guitar players point: "it's just a noise gate !" Good, educational video, and no raising any industrial or fear agenda's. Good to know that everyone is sane and well, if after pushing the button we don't know exactly what to say, and that is a nominal health standard, that shows that person is thinking, awake and thinking a lot, so no harm there. Not everyone is a born radio broadcaster, and that is good as well. The WWW.i call also never hurts, from time to time. Thanks for sharing, appreciated, enjoyed - and ... Keep'em coming, guys. :).
I used to fly out of PBIA around here 83. Our FBO was east of the field. If the tower wanted you to go to the west end it was a very long way. The taxiway was straight and vary long. The nose wheel on the rental plane had a shimmy. I would probably do 30 mph with the front wheel up. Most times I would start at mid field.
My complaint about CFIs-they rarely (if ever) teach their student to adjust their approach speed Vref for acft weight. Rarely are training flights at max gross and Vref goes down with weight. Not surprisingly, student pilots balloon, porpoise, multiple bounces-this carries over to post-certification where PPLs need a 6,000’ runway to land a Cessna 172!! God help them when they have to dead stick in to rough terrain where minimum forward speed is required.
I learned how to do this pretty late, after flying for over 100 hours!
Same applies to Vo. The POH figure is for gross weight. If you are less than that then Vo drops.
@@wntu4
Never heard of Vo. Please enlighten.
Since stall speeds go up with weight, why would the Vref go down with increasing weight?
@@treyreed7297 the opposite. Vref goes down with decreasing acft weight
AWESOME video .. THANK YOU for sharing your passion.
ALL GREAT information.
👍🇨🇦👍 CYQT
Thanks for watching!
I think dashboard cluster design and layout plays a role, not that it's the only issue, instructors also place such reliance on instruments, not that I am getting that vibe from your flight school based on this presentation
Standard phraseology! Adopt professional communication from the beginning. ATC training obviously emphasizes it, but it seems to have a lower priority in pilot training. Study the AIM and learn the language of our profession. I hear bad examples all the time among mostly professional pilots in the high flight levels. I absolutely demand standard phraseology on my flight deck.
As for "any traffic in the area please advise," the FAA specifically requested several years ago its use be dropped by all. See AC 90-66B 10.3.1 and AIM 4-1-9 paragraph g. 1. Therefore, using it is a blatant admission to all on the frequency that you don't know your stuff. The problem is if no one in the area answers your query (not obligated) it gives you the false sense there is no potential traffic conflict and reduces your see and avoid actions, which has high priority over "hear and avoid."
U “absolutely demand standard phraseology on your flight deck”? Relax. U gonna miss more important things if that triggers u.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Not a trigger at all. It is a defense against normalization of deviance, and a great way to maintain professionalism in the flight deck. Check out ruclips.net/video/i2Up_Cw8X-g/видео.html @10:50
I agree on the chewing part.
Thank-you
When I first started flying my cfi had me focusing on the instruments 99% of the time. No longer with him for other personal reasons.
Another thing failing to plan routes, check weather even on clear day notams, tfr's etc
I am really interested in hearing what are some good/bad ATC communication. I am not a huge talker so this will be interesting for me to learn
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A few tips from someone who LOVES to talk on the radio: 1: be CONCISE. This doesn't mean be wordy, it means use the RIGHT words. It's important to hammer correct phraseology into your head and always use it to reduce confusion on both sides. 2: don't go TOO FAST. Like #1, the most important thing is that you understand each other. Talking like the Micro Machine guy doesn't help if they can't understand you. 3: practice making your radio calls with as few verbs as possible without violating #1. You can turn "Lumpkin tower, Skyhawk 123AB is 10 miles to the southeast at 3,500 feet. We have information Charlie and we'd like to make a full stop" into "Lumpkin tower, Skyhawk 123AB 10 miles southeast 3500 feet with Charlie full stop." It can really help a busy controller. 4: when in doubt, practice your call into the headset BEFORE you key up. It helps a lot.
If you want to get into specifics, there are plenty of those lol
When a controller issues a traffic advisory and you are in IMC, don't rudely respond. They are required to issue the call whether you can see past the windscreen or not.
Never had a student that didn't find a less ambiguous horizon in the attitude gyro than outside in "3-miles, haze and smoke" or mountainous terrain. Also never had any difficulty getting their attention back outside after pointing out that nobody ever had a mid-air collision with that little airplane in the instrument.
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OMG, the all traffic please advise. With a guy in a C152 or 172 or small piper, I roll my eyes. I hate hearing it from the King Air, Pilatus, Jet (any kind) of pilot on a 15 mile straight in... Also, at uncontrolled, I don't need your life story when you are 10 miles out. Tell me what direction you are coming from, and what you are flying we can work the rest out. I don't care that you are at 4000 descending, if I'm out there near you, I'll be looking for you, if I'm in the pattern, I need to hear what the 4 other guys doing touch and goes are doing, specifically do I need to fly to Beale before I make my base turn?
Great video i will use them giving my next lesson. Guilty as charged. Aaargh!
Looking inside while doing clearing turns - Yikes. That's the whole purpose of a clearing turn is to scan for traffic. Come To Southern Ca. You better scan as there is traffic everywhere.
this guy is really nice😃
Not a habit, as I'm holding the crosswind everything is fine the stall horn the flare the drop in as soon as I lose elevator authority so goes to the rudder and we go sideways and chirp the tires. I did not like that.
In Russia , almost here where i fly doesnt have cheklist on the plane.
Honestly , im not so experienced pilot , i dont know what is wrong and what is right but i say one thing that can be " filosofied " everywhere:
Better learn and understand something or just read and repeat as parrot?
I mean maybe in the beginning it can be good to read and do with a checklist , but i suppose after you should know it , understand it and applicate what you need when you need.
Please i hope in some comments and opinion.
Im not saying that is wrong use it , im just looking from another point of view.
Practice makes progress. it is possible to unlearn something
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Are you talking about the carpet? haha
Re-think the execution of steep turns, an emergency maneuver done in response to the imminent threat of a mid-air collision. This is a maneuver better performed on instruments rather than by watching the horizon pass rapidly by the windscreen at some vague, "static," acute angle. Transitioning from outside references to instruments is a crucial survival skill for non-instrument rated pilots, and steep turns (and rolling out of them at constant altitude and airspeed) would be a perfect introduction.
Yeah…… I’ve had airspeed come alive on a taxiway…….. had to break/brake that habit.
I will bet you those who have lazy rudder syndrome flown RC airplanes for a very long time before comming to your flyschool . Flying and building rc planes myselves for years almost all fly and turn on ailerons and elevator ( very steep turns ) I always wondered if i can fly a real cessna 172 like i would fly the big scale rc planes ( had a ZLIN 526 acrobat with a 3 horse 2stroke ) would love to try it out but i will not pass medical as i got a heart rythem condition.
The second habit 😂
If you're hearing chewing... you need to adjust squelch.
Something that that I always found irritating was radio traffic. Some pilots sound like they're half asleep and talk real slow mumbled and slurred, and others talk like an auctioneer and too fast. Which I know we've all heard it at one time but I don't know how many times I've heard radio traffic and didn't understand one word. Just take an extra second speak with clarity.
And FFS stop with the color of your plane BS! What village idiot CFI thought that was a good idea to teach?! No one cares what color your plane is! Do we hear United check in with 'United 32 heavy, Blue and white 777 ready to taxi'? No! And from more than a few hundred yards you can't see what color most airplanes are anyway.
Ditch the color-no one cares and it makes you sound like a lazy Sunday driver-use the N NUMBER and make of airplane instead, as the AIM recommends.
Thank you!
“I will fly the plane into the ground” hahahahha
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Asking traffic to advise is not a bad habit. I won't say it's appropriate every time, but there is a time and place to ask people at a non towered airport what's going on so you can plan.
It's a lousy habit and proscribed in the AIM for a good reason. What if there are 10 other planes in the pattern, are they all supposed to sound off in response, one by one? And even in this day and age there may be no-radio planes in the area, either because they don't have them or perhaps they are on the wrong CTAF frequency.
Fly with eyes open, fly standard traffic patterns and use standard calls. Thank you.
“I will crash the plane hahaha”
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Shhh only one person has to know 😏
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hud is useful in cars too: why they don't equip huds on all cars and planes?
Funny enough in newer cars they have begun equipping HUDs albeit it's a fairly simple one. With enough time the HUDs will consist of more advanced information.
with a good hud, an instructor will never be sure if I am looking at the ADI or at the traffic that is about to hit us
no, it is false
the instructor, like the mother, always knows everything!
Like with everything man. Money, money and complexity to mass produce
I'm so with Brian on the chewing gum. Although rather than flying the plane into the ground I'd throw them out the plane
Just MHO, but chomping on gum if you're over 13 years of age is just tacky--even with your mouth closed. It's just not a good (professional) look.
@@kentd4762 any age!
You're right only one person needs to go down for chewing gum. 🤣
GIMME SOME BEEMANS!
@@ThrustFlight i chew gum while im fling because my mouth dries out so bad, but, i am super careful to do it, quietly and i dont chew chew, i gently and discreetly do it, i dont look like a horse chewing his hay lol
Hand off the throttle during takeoff
They are probably fascinated by reading the instruments
😂🤣 sir, I would take lessons from you just for the open mouth comment! I can’t tell you how many videos, CFIs, or other pilots I cannot stand to watch or fly with because of that! It’s an airplane, not a pasture. Graze at home. 😂🤣
Deal! But if we catch you slacking out the plane you go! 🤣
There are plenty of issues and bad habits that sudent pilots have, that's why they hire CFIs, point them out and correct them. Be stern and explain why they need to be corrected. One huge issue I've ran into when I was training years ago, are the CFIs who only care about time building. These instructors NEED to be called out and gone. I understand only a small percentage of CFIs are career CFIs, for the others, the student does not care about building your hours or flying simply for the sake of you building hours. Build them in silence!
If the instructor is that well entertained flying with flaps 10, it is almost a shame to retract them. 🙂
There's no legal taxi speed that I know of....
"Big sky, little airplane."
Naval aircraft have angle-of-attack indicators; then there's no need to adjust approach and touchdown speeds for weight.
In the line area, don't taxi any faster than a man can ride a motorcycle!
How about stop being so close to the prop. That’s a bad habit.
Excellent advice.
N99601 pilot Billy
I can understand the chewing of gum over the intercom. And then you are going to make radio calls chewing that gum. Yes, that has got to be irritating. Imagine hearing the smacking sound. You are in a small cockpit. Keep your mouth shut unless you are speaking. Have some manners. This goes for both the student and CFI. Both can not chew gum. Also, we do not want to hear you eat also.
Preach! 🙌
I dislike incorrect radio terminology. As in when reading back the transponder code, "112.4 in the box."
That number is not a transponder code. 🙄 Also, who cares how it’s said.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 I never said that was a transponder code. That was an example, and is about proper ICAO radio phraseology and "in the box" is not proper.
@@antoniog9814 so reading back the transponder code is bad? By the way, 29 years of professional flying and never heard: “in the box” being used. But I have heard other sorta relaxed ways of bringing their message across. I don’t think there is anything wrong with that. No need to be robots all the time.
@@rtbrtb_dutchy4183 Please point out when I said that reading back the transponder code is bad. I simply said that when reading back the code, the phrase "in the box" is not proper terminology. I congratulate you that in your 29 yrs you've never heard that. I only have 7 years and have heard it many times, even in videos here. Although I do agree that people shouldn't be robotic, I don't see how using proper phraseology when talking on the radio is being robotic.
I try so hard not to dislike arrogant flight instructors. But I have failed for these guys
If you think these guys are arrogant, you're the one with the problem.
@@FlightAce100 why? Are there guys even more arrogant than them? It’s hard to imagine. Are you a fanboy?
1. the head outside the cockpit is an obsolete concept now with ADS-B IN/OUT. Do not fly in any aircraft without ADS-B IN. The traffic awareness is on the panel. You cannot see other aircraft until it is too late. Always balance what you hear on the radio (build the sky picture) and what you see on that panel. And of course, ask ATC to repeat if needed when they give traffic warnings. 2. radio courtesy requires only being on air when you are communicating, no idle questions, no chit-chat, be professional and use the Aviation Alphabet, and know the difference between Roger, Affirmative and Wilco. 3. cross wind flying is about rudder AND aileron. you choose either crabbed approach, or wing down (into the wind) and learn to correct both when close to the runway. 4. anticipating is about staying ahead of the aircraft...nothing to do with a magical rudder technique. the only skill to master with rudder is maintaining center-ball and yaw control. the other time when rudder skill is important is in slow turning close to the ground, you must never turn in an un-coordinated way or you will stall. 5. practice builds muscle memory, without muscle memory you will be forced to track too much in your head and you will get behind the aircraft 6. taxi speed is always brisk walking speed. sometimes an expedite request by ATC requires slightly faster taxi, and/or slightly faster approaches. 7. radio technique is part of staying ahead of the aircraft. a set of skills that comes from practice and accruing flying hours challenging yourself in busier air-spaces as you gain skill.
I am getting my Ipad hooked up to my headphones that will give me verbal traffic alerts so I can keep my eyes outside more. I also, communicate on the radio a lot when I am at a non-towed airport. I still look at the ipad, but it is good to get additional help in regards to traffic.
@@kimberlywentworth9160 That is fine if you do not have ADS-B IN. ATC is your first sky picture and traffic warning. ADS-B IN or TIS will give an even more accurate pictures. Scanning outside the cockpit is the least effective way to see traffic. It may even cause you to miss a traffic warning or not see the traffic on your screen. The sky is white, planes are white. Pretending there is a way to visually see them is a myth.
Well, it was somewhat informative...however, these instructors have a few bad habits themselves......i.e. saying "like" and "you know" too often. It grates on me like the gum-chewing.
Is it just me, or does she look like she could be related to Natalie Portman? xD
Bro, “guys” is a neuter. Meaning no gender is assumed when using. This ain’t the 50s “Guys & Dolls” era. I’ll concede the point, IF you can show an old video of you calling a cis woman a “doll”! Everyone is a guy.
I've always felt "Folks" was neutral...