The State of Halo Infinite
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2021
- Halo Infinite has gone through some turmoil with the recent announcement that the game would not launch with Campaign Co-Op or Forge. The fanbase is understandably upset, but what else is there to be worried about? And is there anything to get excited for?
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This game's development has been a fucking roller coaster of highs and lows.
But what do you think?
Still hyped
343 has never made a good game, so can't say I'm optimistic.
Still expect a good game but I would say my standards are a little lower than your average Halo fan (I really just care about good feeling gameplay), Definitely a shame forge and co-op won't be a launch
All hope has been lost
This game is all red flags. Remember whenever anything Bungie released got us all hyped, it just all seems bad news from 343.
2010: "This game looks good, can't wait to play it."
2021: "This game looks good, What's the catch?"
😭
damn, so true
His video about gaming declining still holds up true
@Flare gtfo no one cares stop pressing your opinions everywhere
@Flare how the fk can you tell we're "fanboys" stop assuming sht on your throne over there
Imagine the people who missed this news and get their buddies all prepped to play campaign co-op on day 1. "Na, it's Halo, co-op has to be here somewhere.". It's what I do every Halo game, or used to do anyway
Omg its karl rock❤
Imagine playing halo in 2021 after halo 3
Glad to see you here man, i hope your blacklist issue gets resolved soon!
Indian Pewdiepie likes HALO??!!!
Karl rock❤️🇮🇳
We can be 100% sure that the indgame store is working perfectly on launch though.
Oh yeah, gotta have that money funnel working.
At least it won't be loot boxes
Yup, funny how that mofo will be working perfectly on launch just nothing gameplay wise, let see no campaign coop no asssination, no forge, but hey at least there microtransations on launch!!!! :D!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Ofc One is a UI one is a gameplay feature/mode.
Wow, a simple UI system works better than a co op campaign where they need to optimise and adjust each section of the game to account for that. Also, a store deals with real money, so you better hope it works so you dont lose your money
There was once a time when a game came out, you placed the disk into your console, and it was complete and functional with all of the content there from the beginning.
I tell my friends this when we’re playing war zone and it takes a little bit to load up. “This is 2021, everything takes a second. It’s not 2003 where everything worked flawlessly on an original Xbox and 2 Mbps was the max.”
SPLIT SCREEN CO OP NOW
on the bright side now bugs can be fixed if they exist
Right and those games had a 10th if the content these games have.
@@ububububububububub1667 What does that mean even? Every game has at least a couple of bugs in them.
Not having Forge for half a year is a massive blow. Half the reason the multiplayer in Halo 3 / Halo Reach had such longevity was the endless supply of custom games made in Forge.
But how long was it till people got bored of general matchmaking and stayed for the customs? Infinite can still have great longevity with the best forge ever on its way. It’s not like they’re not adding forge
well we have tons of longevity in the f2p model alone. forge will end up being a massive resurgence. i'd rather be patient but at least get to know the base game, than have to wait on the whole game 12 more months
Wtf are you talking about? My game only loads Slayer... 🤔
@@thejfoshow1320 yea. people are blowing this out of proportion. I'd rather certain modes be delayed, compared to not in the game at all, or completely broken.
At this point I figure people would be happy this game comes out before Christmas. Didn't know there's so many crybabies about certain modes becoming late.
@@rizzofohshizzle380 you're literally defending the shitty practice of not releasing a full game at launch, your standards for a video game may be rock bottom but most peoples isnt
“This looks pretty unfinished for a game that’s coming out in a couple of months.”
*One year later…*
Ohno...
your profile picture. WHY!
Mario shmeat
Like what shit fest where they ready to drop for it to take over a year for what was thought to be just graphics to end up not having fucken campaign or forge like how can so much be so fucked
@@Wolfbroa not having campaign co op they'll have campaign don't get it wrong
I’m still just sitting here wondering how incomplete the game was when they initially wanted to release it.
Bout as good as the MCC release.
probably not as bad as Cyberpunk
Oh god it would have been a disaster.....
They had a working title screen and store. Lol
Who could’ve predicted that they would’ve messed up? They’ve never done this before this is crazy
They didn’t mess up jesus get a grip
@@I3arett Next level Copium.
@@I3arett grass is purple
@Alexzander Павел found the 343 apologist
@@I3arett your copium is reaching critical mass
It makes me think, if they're having all this trouble now, how broken was the game going to be a year ago?
Cyberpunk level most likely.
A slideshow of halo infinite concept art while a bit crushed version of sierra 117 plays
What a genuinely unique thought.
@@sw4g465 some good old fashioned PowerPoint slides made in 2014 for a school presentation
@@sw4g465 epic shitpost
Remember when games used to come out with everything instead of having to wait for months for a 100% full game?
That was a long time ago, my friend. IMO those days are over and they're never coming back
It's because it has gotten more expensive to develop these things as it now costs around a thousand to fully render a non-interactable building. There's also the publishers who push for release dates regardless of whether or not the developers can actually get the game out in time forcing those developers to rush. Blame corporate greed rather than the developers.
@@starhammer5247 Actually it's the reverse it has gotten a lot cheaper to add those things. Unless they built a game engine from scratch and are still updating it all this stuff should be easy breezy. I mean they have been doing this for years.
I miss the days where my games aren't updating every week..
@@asandax6 Infinite is on a game engine that was built from scratch lol
Compared to Battlefield 2042 and CoD: Vanguard, while this isn’t the greatest news at all, it seems to be quite a lot better than its competitors because it actually works and feels quite fun on the multiplayer side of things.
Thats my biggest pet peeve in gaming and in life is when people make a mistake, acknowledge the mistake. But still make the SAME MISTAKE
This isn't a mistake. Why should people not interested in Forge or Co-op have to wait? There is not one good reason to delay the game for a vast majority. Forge and Co-op are not going to be paid DLCs. They haven't done anything wrong.
It's 343
@@malazan6004 well they fixed many of their past mistakes and looks like they're making a promising halo game to be fair.
"That stench, I've smelled it before." 😐 One single microtransaction can destory an entire franchise...
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@Trent Mage
Anything they damn well please. And they have an endless army of yes men bought off with Microsoft’s money to simp for them and deceive suckers into buying their swill.
@Trent Mage That's the equivalent of corporate suicide, DOOM ETERNAL said they'd have no microtransactions and they were right. Do you really think 343 would risk their credibility and potentially lose money and hundreds of customers for lying? It is corporate suicide to lie about your product.
Bruh MP is free, I am fine with cosmetics
343: “The bots are meant to be training buddies”
Bots: **clips of bots tbagging**
They’re trying to prepare you for the real world at least
XD
@@josephdoria5237 💯😂
real buddies help toughen up buddies
You have the playerbase community to thank for that as they are the ones who taught it to them.
It's kinda disappointing that most triple AAA games nowadays feel like they have the mentality of releasing a partially finished game, and then planning to finish it down the road
triple aaa, thats like 9 a's bro
Anyone who says's Forge is "not a dealbreaker" has clearly never played it. The amount of pure fun and creativity that mode inspires is worth the price alone for me.
I dont care about it coming out now..guess ill wait till later..i have other systems...all good with me!😁
Isn’t it gonna be on gamepass??
Forge is 90% of any halo's long term longevity.
Longtime halo player since 2001. Not that big of a deal breaker for me but I can understand why people are upset
@@Scantronacon "I have other systems"
Nice. Boycott halo
What kind of shocks me is that they’ve had 6 years of feedback from the community about halo 5’s half-baked launch and plans were not set in stone from day 1 to insure the game would be feature complete at launch.
Dude, we made videos back in the day about how awful the wait for “stuff halo ships with” was.
That’s what I don’t understand as well. Like people have been telling them what they want (and how to make it Halo again) since Halo 4 came out, and they’ve just decided to almost systematically ignore it until just this past year when the original Infinite preview got absolutely destroyed. Like what else have they been doing for six years? By the way the game looked last year, evidently not much.
Everyone else is so fed up with 343's bullshit, I can't see how Microsoft isn't at this point. These people just need to go and MS should hand the IP over to.. literally anybody else. I'm not saying all the people in charge should be fired, but holy shit, if you can't do the one job you've been hired to do and you still haven't improved after a decade, there's not much else I can say. I genuinely wouldn't be surprised if the people steering this sinking ship since Halo 4 get blacklisted from the gaming industry if this game flops
@@nagger8216 godamn yall gotta put urself in the devs shoes jesus fuck i get the anger but yall gotta stop acting childish and blaming the devs they didnt want to do this but they want forge and co op to be the best they can possibly be instead of releasing them half baked and bugged.
@@nagger8216 You sound extremely entitled just like any other Bungie fanboys.
@@drawlikematt5997 yeah I agree the devs aren’t the ones making the decision to release the game. Microsoft is and they obviously are trying to get the money from holiday sales which is why they won’t let them delay any further
Everyone asks “how is Halo Infinite?” But no one ever asks “how was your vacation, Act Chad?”
But then it's been 4 hours and he hasn't responded! haha, but I bet he's feeling pretty chill after the nice time away.
it was fucking amazing. 10/10 would go again
@@TheActManu got a good tan bro 😎
While I personally don't mind a few month wait for co-op and forge, I can see why people are upset. I'm hoping this means that some of the rumors about the campaign and forge are the reason for the delays. An open world less linear campaign probably presents unique issues with co-op, and if forge is going to include a.i./bots on top of everything else I'm fine with waiting.
Of course you would say that, you wouldn't even care if the game released in cyperpunk level of ready.
@@xXMapcoXx ? What’s your point?
@@xXMapcoXx Dude quit assuming things, just because they're not that worried doesn't mean their standards are low, grow tf up.
A few months? Its almost been a year
Aye only 10 more months till forge
Acting Male is so committed to his craft, I believe he legit left the camera on while he was on vacation just so he could burst into the room as soon as he got back and capture the real moment on camera for the lols.
???
@@theduke3778 I’m pretty sure he was joking. It’s a common joke on the movie side of RUclips
Games nowadays have you worrying about “what is going to be at launch”
It’s just sad to see that
Half the reason is due to the size of the games nowadays. Most are like 100gb now
Also for people who have bad internet the thing they fear most is an update
"reality is often disappointing"
@@olliecrayford memory doesn’t mean the game is big, there are open world RPGs with less memory than halo 5 and have hundreds of hours of more content than that. Also if 343 learned to compress their files it wouldn’t be 100 GBs.
Minecraft is literally an endless world if you use a realm and I believe that game is like 1 GB.... No Mans Sky is also an endless world and I don’t think that’s even 10 GB on my pc.
It honestly blows my mind that games are so poor on release these days, I have no idea what's happened to the industry but this all definitely started about 10 years ago and it's snowballed ever since.
The state of the gaming industry can be summed up in one sentence:
HE CANT KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH IT!!!
Is that the Hasan meme reference?
@@njm2699 nah, it's Jesse from Breaking Bad
@@njm2699 ruclips.net/video/a3_PPdjD6mg/видео.html
The reality is that us as fans have no balls. We will eat whatever they toss our way, we will bitch and complain but we will still buy it. They want easy money and sometimes the game is not even finished before they release it. Like Battlefront 2, and Cyber Punk.
Lol yeah love this sentence from Jesse
"You guys play destiny right?" Sent shivers down my spine just hearing it
I just hope the campaign has a warthog ending, driving away from an exploding/crumbling landscape. I miss playing that with my brother, he’d be mounted on the gun, I’d be driving dodging the pitfalls!
I simultaneously have incredibly high hopes for this game and an overwhelming feeling of nervousness
cautious optimism
Yeah I am shitting myself for what will either be the revival of the franchise or the death of this franchise.
@@Jellybob69 Ugh
I want to like you post but then it wouldn't say 117
Remember its 343 Industries. Most likely to fuck up with the fans again.
I literally don't give a fuck. I love forge but after the heartbreak that was Cyberpunk 2077, (and after the forge leaks showing a super advanced forge mode for Infinite), I'd rather they play it safe and do what they must. For me Halo hasn't been the same since Reach, and now we're finally getting it again, I want it to be as good as it can be.
This is extremely disappointing. I haven't played Halo since Halo Reach and Halo 3. Everything looked soo promising for Infinite and I even got my friends to get onboard with Halo. We will probably still get it but I was looking forward to Forge and Co-op. I was banking on those experiences to bring me back to those nostalgic times of the Halo franchise 😔
The Acting Male always speaks the truth. 👏
damn, the notable is here lets go
The leather back sea turtle appreciates you💙
I'd say that's pretty notable
Shut up
Nuke TheNotable, what r u doin here
343: “The bots are meant to be training buddies”
Bots: *clips of bots tbagging*
why are u copying people for internet clout
Forge I could wait but not being able to play campaign with the boys day 1 is a major disappointment. It’s so weird because halo 5 had a big focus on the co op campaign with the 4 player squads.
Initially I was going to be ok with no co op campaign at launch, than I went back and looked at my original copy of halo 3 and realized after 12 years I am yet to beat the he game solo on any difficulty and had a clear change of heart.
You should definitely play through solo on legendary. Itll make you a better man
@@randomwhitedude9227 coop>>>solo
@@keilafleischbein59 for sure, but the true test of manhood is solo halo 2 legendary
@@randomwhitedude9227 pressing buttons by yourself doesn't make you a man. Pressing buttons with friends makes memories.
@@keilafleischbein59so woke
"You obviously don't know what the ladies like..."
Spoken like a true gamer
You remember that song that TeamHeadKick put out forever ago? Halo OG, they released it after Spartan Style. I listen to it regularly on Spotify, no idea if it's up on RUclips anymore.
Act Man played in 2002 same as I did, man. Halo OGs put your guns up.
The way you said "like a gamer" made me feel cringed out
Did some damage!
I can’t believe they were going to release this a year ago
Cyberpunk 2.0
@James Lewis Dela Cruz good. Microsoft need to clean house, and it’s well over due.
@@gabrielov8027 at least it isn't cyberpunk, a goddamn mass
There's a reason they didn't reveal a release date back then. They knew this game had to be delayed, and they were waiting for the green light from Microsoft
"You guys played Destiny, right?"
Daaaaaaammmmnnnnn. Good point.
I miss halo 3 when it first came out. That was perfection in its own moment.
Actman: "Split screen won't be an issue for PC players because they don't have any friends."
Oof, right in the soul there Actman, you didn't need to do us that dirty.
Us PC players don’t have souls. I am one
I loled at that 🤣
I have never been so offended by something I 100% agree with
i've played more co-op on MCC (PC) than I ever did on the original consoles
@@wackydinky5588 I just wish we had splitscreen on PC..
I can see why 343’s suits think it’s acceptable from a business standpoint to launch without campaign co-op and Forge. The most popular current games don’t have either of those. But these are franchise staples that fans should expect. Hopefully Infinite blows everyone away though, and launches with tons of content.
Bonnie Ross/Microsoft*
Fancy seeing you guys here
C’mon man. We know it won’t.
Who cares what the most "popular current games have". For gods sakes alot of games these days have less content than games from the mid 2000s. CO-OP somehow in this day and age is seen as something "new and innovative" now with have scarce it is which is very sad.
It’s ridiculous. A multi-billion dollar franchise, and they can’t even launch a complete game after a much needed DELAY for another year. It’s crazy! If the fans were in charge and we were the devs, the game would already be out, and would be the best halo game in the franchise period!
I’m worried about the things they haven’t mentioned; Firefight, theater, custom games, fileshare, game modes like Infection, Race, Juggernaut, etc.
What other core Halo pillars will be missing on December 8th?
Shit like this is why I haven’t pre ordered a halo game since halo 4
Judging by the leaks, there will be plenty of content and game modes like some of the ones you listed. It aint gonna be empty like Halo 5's launch
I respect the arguments you made in the video a lot. You were very fair when most people just scream their head off when what *THEY* wanted isn’t in the game. Good vid man
"Echo 419 this is Cortana, we we need heavy doses of hopium on the double."
"Negative Cortana, I have been engaged by Covenant air patrols and I'm having a tough time shaking them! You'll be better off finding your own hopium."
@@aarone1981 you're speaking as a very small minority, I assure you.
@@caseyhall2320 so... wait.. If both are minority.. then whats the majority ? duun duun duuuun..
@@Mabswer bro what are you talking about. the majority is those who want coop campaign and forge at launch. the extremely small minority of cod and fortnite kids are the ones who dont give a shit
@@aarone1981 Campaign*
learn english. your language skills are worthless and insignificant.
@@sneakycactus8815 This sounds like something Thanos would say; and true. Thanks for the laugh.
The exclusion of playable elites, assassinations, forge, and campaign co-op even after a year delay really makes me wonder how rough the game would have been if it shipped last year. It really sounds like 343 bit off more then they could chew and Microsoft was more then willing to let them choke if it meant selling their new console.
halo 4 and 5 made it clear that 343 bit off more than they could chew with halo
@@null6073 halo 4 was great imo. Halo 5 sucks balls tho
And that's the bottom line, once you truly think about it: once again, it's _fucking Microsoft._
@@NaruSanavai They simply cannot compete with the Japanese in any aspect. While Sony has its flaws, I'm willing to bet their PS5 destroyed whatever the new Xbox is called in sales... AGAIN.
@@lelouchvibritannia4028 Don't care, PS fanboy. Nobody asked you. Why are you even _here?_ This discussion isn't even about consoles. Go away. Console wars are so...2006. Shoo.
Honestly, the moment I heard that the game was gonna be open world to some degree, I sorta just wrote off co-op even being a thing. I'm surprised they're actually trying to make it work in the first place.
Also yeah, the delay to Forge actually makes me more excited then upset, who knows what sort of crazy shit we'd be able to do if they have to delay it for so long after launch.
Dind't Far Cry 5 already do this back in 2018?
I also wrote off the campaign being any good it will just focus on a big world with no life or charm watch
Um they delayed Forge because it's not ready not because they are going crazy with it
@@malazan6004 They are going crazy though, have you seen the leaks and datamined content from the flights?
I do find it disappointing that these features aren't there at launch i plan to wait 3 months for coop I feel the campaign with ya bros is the best way to experience halo
The game must have been so incomplete if they actually released it a year ago..
they mentioned that forge only started development holiday last year. Imagine if it shipped then. We wouldn't get forge for more than a year
@@deagle.2 so the same as what it would be now then.......
Cyberpunk 2.0 incoming.
I can’t imagine them actually producing a game like that
@@someguy9970 more like Anthem 2.0 but yeah you’re not wrong
Still amazes how good Halo 3 looks
Yes
no halo will ever top it unfortunately.
I honestly think they should've just stuck with whatever game engine Halo 3 uses, it still has better physics and whatnot than most newer games anyways (better than Halo 4 and 5 anyway lol)
@@plasmaoctopus1728 halo 4 shouldve been halo 3 but live service and remastered graphics.
@@AlkaVirus nah
Some of the best memories of my life was playing split screen coop with my friends and families. I would spend hours on my time beating halo 3 campain with my older brothers, and I when halo mcc came out me and my older brothers would spend days sitting on the couch beating every single halo from combat evolved to halo 4 on all difficulties. The fact that halo infinite will not have split screen coop on day one saddens me but I will still get the game and wait for split screen coop.
This might actually be one of your best made videos. The entire vibe was so entertaining. Nicely Done Act Man!
RIP to all the little brothers that’ll never get to be the gunner on the warthog now.
Thanks 343
And the 70 year old dads
Hahaha. This really brings me back!
they can … in multiplayer come on
@Severed Bloody Impulse yeah but like act man said, the first time is special. Experiencing something together with a friend or family member for the first time is a special moment. Lots of people wont get that now. Sure it'll still be fun but not the same
@Severed Bloody Impulse in what way lmao? I'm just stating a simple fact lots of people have fun experiencing something for the first time with another human. Is friendship and human contact something you are unfamiliar with?
Already waiting for that “Why is Call Of Duty: Vanguard SO BAD?!” Review
I don't think that's too hard to work out XD
it just looks so… nothing. like, that’s the only word I can find to describe it. so damn stale and generic. and you know the matchmaking is just going to exacerbate that. as a former diehard cod fan (not proud of that), i truly hope the franchise crashes and burns
Ngl CoD Vanguard felt like out of place. What I meant about “Out of place” is that the game being pointless (too early to be announced after cold war disaster) and we have similiar games like COD World at War
It can't be "so BAD" if it's only the multiplayer being terrible
Campaign and zombies can fix that and still has hope, specially zombies
Vanguard shouldn’t even exist imo. Mw2019 should’ve been given a 2 year life cycle so they could’ve fleshed out it’s content, then Cold War this year so that it would’ve been polished and complete. Then next year mw2019 sequel. But what the fuck am I saying it’s activision lol money nommmm
It's so weird to me that co-op is one of the delayed features considering it was such a big part of Guardians identity at launch. While I agree Forge is important to the franchise and goes a long way towards longotivity (especially important considering the length of time between entries compared to it's contemporaries like Call of Duty and Battlefield), I think launching without co-op is such a bad idea and hurts the game since it's so engrained in Halos identity, I don't think I've met a Halo fan who has never played through a campaign in co-op. It's like launching a Gears of War game without co op available.
Halo 5 had zero local co-op and they got so much backlash from it that they went on the record to promise it would be in the next halo and here we are.
The gravity hammer really needs some works. Litterally no knockback
Those distant memories of the times when the complete game was sold within one disc at launch... What an utopia
We didn’t realize what we had. We just didn’t…
There wasn't even downloads just stick it in and play
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Campaign co-op is without a doubt my favorite thing about Halo. There's nothing more fun than getting a group of friends and going for every single player achievement in the game together, laughing at the story as we crack jokes during all the cutscenes, and then spend at least a solid week torturing ourselves to beat the game on LASO mode. The last time a Halo multiplayer mode was as much fun as that was back during the height of Halo 3's multiplayer days.
its almost everyone's favorite thing about Halo. 343 isn't even a fraction of a percent of Bungie
Halo 3 is where it all ended for me. after 3 I didn't care for the other halos anymore. I'll still check out infinite though.
I just hope Joe doesn’t ruin his reputation for BEAUTIFUL games by helping this game ship
The Gravity Hammer could use a new sound. Make it sound more powerful like in the previous Halo games
I mean it took over a year for PC to get forge on Halo MCC and MCC to THIS DAY STILL doesn't have cross play Coop
Or splitscreen. :(
Furry
@@Itzz_Gamby yeah and?
Furry
This one inquisitor, this one right here.
Does anyone know if they addressed Spartan collision? Walking through people will have a huge impact on custom games. Also we definitely need more ragdolling, especially from the hammer
They can have the option to turn that on for customs. Im glad that player collision isn't happening because it has gotten me killed countless times.
@@kingmeruem8821 That's kinda the point though. You have to play around it
@@keithtestaverde3712 dont care its annoying when dumb teamates do dumb things
@@kingmeruem8821 you know it’s a team based right? Your not a lone soldier, you should have to interact with your team.
Same with team killing.
YESSSS FINALLY SOMEONE WHO CARES ABOUT RAGDOLLS!
My question is why does Microsoft trust 343 still? They almost killed the Halo franchise and MS still gives them the reins?
@BigShiftD who wouldn’t? they took the best trilogy of games in history(change my mind) to being a joke besides reach
You know your a real dark souls fan when you spot the faraam armour, in his blurry background, on your phones tiny screen.
It's one thing to not have forge at launch, but not having forge for at least 6 months is terrible.
Stop being everywhere
Yeah its fucking dumb honestly. But what else is to be expected.
Bruh, how can each of your comments be less funny and original than the previous one, and still get thousands of like? it’s impressive, really.
It's not terrible, but why bother arguing with you people
Yet another halo game will come and go without being able to surpass reach at launch...
Anyone else remember the good old days when games were complete upon release and no one was worried about what wasn’t finished, and it was just the story and characters we had to worry about?
Yeah that was before they are going to try to milk a game for 10 years and convince the sheep there is new content around the corner.
I think most people don't understand that game development comes with a lot of difficulties, especially on such a large scale. 343 have definitely had a lot of issues, like it was said with leadership changes and more, so I really think we should be cutting them some slack. When it comes to game development, the more time in the oven the better, as the content will be more polished and feature heavy, which at the end of the day we all want. I absolutely agree that delaying it is the best decision, I am disappointed, but knowing the industry and the complexity of game development, especially with large companies, I cannot give 343 shit for doing it.
On a side note I must say that the studio is very lucky to have investors that are willing to have let the game be delayed for a year as well as those two crucial features, something that Cyberpunk 2077 and CD Projekt Red did not have (it's a shame because Projekt had already delayed the game by a few months and cut features to help finish it, but they really needed another year which the higher ups were not prepared to give, that's the reason why 2077 released the way it did, and also because it was such an ambitious project. So I cannot give those developers any hate either).
PS:
Knowing The Act Man's audience I am probably going to get a lot of shit for sympathising with both 343 and CD Projekt Red in this comment, but if you're going to be against me at least be civil about it. The last thing I need is someone screaming in the replies like an entitled child. Just be respectful and understanding please.
Yeh I'm not mad at 343 either. I really want to play their game and I can EASILY wait for forge and co op. The blow here is that infinite's popularity and player count may take a hit with time, and that's kind of upsetting since we all want the halo 3 days again.
So disappointing. I've been playing the flight, tons of fun and really nostalgic but man... no forge, no campaign co-op, no custom color combos, no dual wield, no elites, and the shitty battlepass unlock system. I am not going to give my money towards a product that isnt finished because I'm so sick of half assed games being released. I get it, we dont want another cyberpunk, but if we keep paying for games despite all the missing content, companies will never stop doing it. I'll definitely get the game, but it certainly wont be day one. Maybe after those 3-6 months when it's an actual halo game.
Most people do not care about forge and coop
@@eodyn7 that is blatantly false. Co op was one of the biggest draws of the bungie series/halo 4 and forge was one of the only universally liked aspects of halo 5.
I'm honestly gonna wait to play till couch co-op comes out as much as that will hurt.
Yea same
I'm at least not gonna pre-order. Gotta do something if we ever want to see change
Strange friend flex...
That's what imma gonna do
Its hard I am really Skeptical on how good this game will be. I feel like the best aspect of the Halo Infinte will be the Multiplayer. The have really gone into alot of detail about how they are trying to make this feel both Classic and New at the same time. On the other hand I have the feeling the Campaign is going to be a mess and a let down like prevous installments. You can tell its not the main focus based on how much of it they have shown, I am sure it looks better in comparison to when it was first shown off but still fingers crossed I guess.
Personally, I would prefer if they delayed campaign until co-op was finished. I want to sink my teeth into it with all my friends and be up until 3AM hyped up with some Mountain Dew.
Exactly, the first time I played halo it was with my brother and two cousins on a big tv. Granted I wouldn’t wanna share a big screen anymore (I don’t have one) but at least online coop would be great.
I mean you could just wait three months couldn't you? And then play with your buds
@@melonsfordays6974 some sense.
@@melonsfordays6974 And miss out on the experience of playing through a brand new Halo game with my Brother?
The way we both played through Halo 3 and Halo Reach when we were kids?
If I wait I'm gonna get spoiled and if I don't wait I'm gonna miss out on the experience. It's not that simple.
@@melonsfordays6974 I mean aside from the issue of waiting on just campaign you are aware of how player drop off works yes? This with a lack of forge will surely diminish creativity, replay ability, longevity ect ect at least to some extent which is a shame compared to halo 3 ect
I’d be very interested to watch a documentary on this game like what they did for the original games. This game has been a wild ride. I think what’s important for people to realize is that this game has been through hell. The game was originally supposed to be released last year, and I don’t actually think it would’ve been as glitchy as people think it would’ve been. I’m sure covid had something to do with it being delayed. And once Joe came in, he changed everything around because he didn’t like the route the game was going. That means they were pretty much reworking a HUGE portion of the game. So of course it wouldn’t be ready if they had to rework a lot of it. And I’m sure that goes into why Co-op and forge were delayed as well. According to the Reddit post, because Joe wanted to rework the “freedom” the campaign has, they couldn’t figure out how it would work. Like how would checkpoints work when people are in two completely different places. I think that delaying Co-op and forge was the best option. I can live without them even though those are my favorite things to do in halo. I just hope we get a quality campaign and multiplayer.
I also think people are too harsh on them. Some people are acting as though they haven’t acknowledged any of the feedback we’ve given them from 4 and 5 when that’s exactly what they’ve been doing. They’ve listened to so much of our feedback over the years and just because of this one thing, some people choose to ignore it. Yes, having Co-op and forge is pretty major for halo, but it’s not like they didn’t want to have it in the game on launch. I’m sure no one is more disappointed about this than 343 themselves. I just want people to realize this.
I love how he used “that stench, I’ve smelt it before” love you act man
"Music: Positive" ...they are way too humble there! Gareth, Joel, Curtis and Alex slapped out some absolute bangers!!
Not bad, but not great. A few tracks are fantastic. Average overall. Nothing compares to Marty's orchestra.
Agreed! Infinite's track was awesome!
@SweetNailClippings Of course it's my opinion. What else would it be? You're welcome to your opinion as well.
Arthur: The gaming industry has always told us that hype is a fools game.
It really is
Hype brings disappointment
@@faketoddhoward7280 Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
Would you rather be able to play now and take the 2 features 3 and 6 months later, or would you rather they just keep it unreleased for another 6 months...I am more interested in the single player experience being amazing and repeatable, I played combat evolved co-op like hundreds of times! it had awesome replayability...if the quality is there I will be there with my friends when it gets here...just make it GOOD!
Thank good for you video, I feel like we are on the same base when it come to halo, bungie, 343... its refreshing
Honestly co-op is something I can live without at first, I usually start by playing the campaign solo anyways; I understand how this sucks for a lot of people though. Forge on the other hand, that's fucked. A HUGE part of Halo is the custom games, and having that 6 months out (enough time to completely diminish the game's player base entirely, as evident by Halo 4's player numbers 6 months after launch) is seriously going to hurt the game.
I like your Carl wheezer covers
Yooooo you like halo and The Act Man too thats boss! I've been going through your extensive discography for a while, especially the past month. I love The S.S. Krill I think it's such a unique concept and brilliantly done!
Well, if its any consolation, that 3 months will go pretty quick with Dying Light 2 which launches day before Halo
@@ChristopherCoxFilm holy shit it’s the nerf war guy. And the Panic guy
i'm kinda new here, i just recently bought the masterchief collection for pc, play all the games, since i don't like multiplayer games, i didn't bother play more, but i really don't understand what exactly forge is? Somebody? Can give me an idea here?
I've got 3 brothers and we were gonna play this with each other just like when we were kids but now none of us are gonna buy it until co-op campaign comes out.
You'll be waiting about 3-6 months. But I'm sure it'll be good
Good decision, I am sure punks won’t be spoiling
@@synadex9744 yes they are, but only if you look for them
Seems like an easy solution
Seeing Joseph now in this video and when I’m rewatching halo 2 vid doc man… the years later… it misses Marty in this sadly imo
9 months later and nothing has changed 👏
I hate how game updates or “free dlc” these days is just developers putting back old shit that was in previous versions of whatever game and by the time their done adding everything back the next installment to the franchise takes priority, leading to missed opportunities to add new and creative ideas that can bring some new life to a franchise
Animal crossing did this so much(and it is still missing content old games had). I hate this trend.
Games have gotten way too complex and the publishers don't give the developers enough time to properly create the game now. Hence this stupid trend of broken buggy games and "dlc" that should've been there on launch. This trend has killed my enthusiasm for games at launch. Now I gotta wait a few weeks or months to get a proper game. It's moronic as hell.
To be fair, campaign coop is gonna work radically different in Infinite than in other Halo games. But yeah, we will have to wait and see
@@TheActMan hey! i have a question. what do you think about all the people who are now saying the game will be absolutely terrible due to no forge or co-op?
@@NullXNXVoid idk about this one new ips maybe but cod and other big names have reused textures and skeletons that saves time cyberpunk did a pretty good job for just three years and so did red dead with five honestly it’s management
It's disappointing to see that, no matter how much they want to convince us that they care about the fans, they're clearly focusing on the stuff that will milk the whales first and foremost.
Thats 343 for you my dude
Blame Microsoft... 343 are not responsible for deadlines or anything like that. It was the same with Bungie in the past and that's why they left...
@@cuyospartan02 you mean Microsoft right? crazy how people really think it's 343. Microsoft wants holiday sales. kinda obvious 🤷♂️
@@sethrussell7771 I agree with this statement...
@Commander Hurst At least the Bungie of those times learned and delivered in those days in half the time, less than half the employees and resources 343 has today with amazing games, all what 343 has been doing are flops, so don't only blame microsoft they are too to blame, both of them
I enjoy your videos man, great content. Can you just clear something up for me though? Halo was supposed to launch last year right? They delayed it because it wasn’t ready (I was all for it, make the very best game you can and take your time and don’t release it until it’s ready). My question is that if it was supposed to come out last year and 343 thought it looked good, does that mean that had Halo been released like it was supposed to we wouldn’t have had Forge or Co-op (theoretically) a year later ????
3 months to launch co-op campaign
to quote master gunny sergeant- HUH! MY ASS
11 FREAKING MONTHS
"Most pc gamers don't have friends" almost fell over laughing haha!
But we have a huuuugggee list of great games and the ability to make our own. It balances things out quite a bit.
@JackTheCrackAK he’s not wrong tho
My cycle: "Arg, that mother fu- wait, I don't have... uh, ah, hahaha! Oh, oh...
They do have friends, online 🥸
😐
Bruh
I guess I can’t make the worst forge maps imaginable on launch
Remember when games came complete
@@bobREALOG man those were the days
@@bobREALOG you mean when bungie overworked their employees to death? Yeah me too
@@Optimusprime56241 Now companies overwork their employees and have the game come out incomplete, looking at you Anthem, so everyone wins.
@@kingdomkey2262 remember when bungie was the one who made Destiny heavily P2W and predatory microtransactions and it wasnt Activision's idea and it was Activision who forced them to make Taken King
You should give the “Mass Effect” series a review, it’s a really really good game and great in lore it’s a perfect series
Perfect???
@@louisjackson8714 I mean it beats A LOT of other games I played lmao def top 3 series I’ve played
I’m disappointed they backtracked on co-op. I wasn’t a big fan of 5 but the co-op was awesome, I loved the unique characters and helmet views.
Ya forge and coop not being there at launch isn’t a break for me but I definitely think this will be unhealthy for the game especially if they are going to treat these as big releases for the season when it was supposed to be there at launch
Totally agree, what the hell is happening at 343 lots of shady stuff in the game industry as in almost every other industry lol
Nice ta see ya slip
I agree this happens to Tales of Arise of not having co-op and again still isn’t going to break for me and I’m having a blast in Tales of Arise
I'm half expecting the campaign to be complete crap and very short.
@@chidowuan4762 I guess remote working meant execs can't go and yell at the employees for not working crunch... Games of this caliber takes years to make and not to mention , they did a 180 in the middle of development.
Joke's on you, Act Man, I don't _have_ any friends to play co-op with, so I'm feeling great about this launch!
*regretful sobbing intensifies*
Same, it’s hard to find people who play halo nowadays tbh
Consolation sobs
Awww. Maybe between now and then, you'll make a friend or a few...
@@assaultapple6561 painful but true. Halo has peaked long ago and now it’s pretty much over. In the last 7 years, I’ve played halo split screen 2 times.
@@jacobwhelan45 I agree the Halo franchise was popular in the golden age but it not really that popular in the future anymore and there two underrated series that is way popular than Halo the Yakuza series, and the Tales series
I really do wish they would release f2p competitive day one and hold off on releasing campaign until it's done. I understand why they won't do that, but it would be nice to have the full experience once the paid version releases.
That scene at 2:02 gave me nostalgia, I remember playing split screen on the 360 with my older brother when he bought the Halo Mash-Up for Minecraft.
I don’t think we’ll ever have anything close to the Bungie Halo games
True
Yup, Halo is my favorite franchise of all time and I learned after Halo 4 to stop being excited for upcoming Halo games, 343 can’t make Halo games like bungie did.
@@dax5530 ofcouse they fucking can't its a different company
@@dax5530 I’ve not been excited for a halo game since reach, master chief collection was more exciting than any new main series game. Shows just how much this franchise has dipped since bungie left
Yeah at this point we just have to accept that the greatness of Halo died with Reach. Its ok just let it go it was an amazing ride anyways
"You're Microsoft. This is HALO. Get it done. That's the 3 step process here" - Jeff Gerstmann
Love to see you making great content act man!! Keep it up🙌
I have literally been waiting for Forgeable AI since Forge first launched 😭 I cannot wait for it to get here. Just imagine the custom game options
Honestly, I said this on Xperia's video. I think we should just deal with the blue balls. You said it yourself, most of the player base will drop off by then. A bit of patience would go a long way
Completely agree but you know the only reason they’re releasing it is because Microsoft wants those holiday sales.
@@lordreaper117. exactly. Like I get it, there's pressure to release it but after the debacle that halo 5 was, this is a bad move
Champion we have all been patient. For almost 6 years. My balls are killing me now.
They shouldn't have ever committed to a release date in the first place if all of the key components of the game weren't ready or weren't guaranteed to be ready on time.
Facts
I’m a big fan of how you used the Reach cutscenes in delivering the news
Kira
Looking back at this, I wish the game was delayed.
You know, an esport level AI on an fps shooter would be a really fun training partner.
Spartan difficulty AI are already quite strong
Most games lately are really competitive and lack of Co-op makes it even harder for casuals to find good games with it. That’s why I’m so excited for Halo Infinite Co-Op and Outlast Trials. Most companies probably thought that it takes more effort and less profitable (Fuck you Madden). Not everyone wants to be a sweaty E-Sports gamer. Some people including myself just want to enjoy the experience and story along the way. I missed the times of messing with my friends without getting competitively shouted and just laughed at the shitstorm’s about to happen in the game
Being slightly sweaty myself you have a very good point, there really isn't much room for a casual fun experience these days. I feel bad dunking on people who clearly just want to have a good time.
Multiplayer co-op exists
Yeah, everything thing these days is just ESPORTS! TOURNAMENTS! RANKED! COMPETITIVE! At this point it's so played out and shoved down your throat it's obnoxious!
Everyone now has something to prove, or that they're so much better than each other. I miss some old casual FUN! Not cutthroat serious comp doo doo, but like just an environment where you can chill and just have fun playin games and stuff together, ya know? I feel it kinda just makes things more toxic.
Also, it's so annoying when you're watching E3 or something and they show like 5mins of a game then some "mini" E-sports tournament the rest of the time. Like c'mon man I wanna see some games, not some annoying shout casting and an Competitive ego circle jerk 😆
They did say campaign co-op sounds like multiplayer, split screen probably will exist for multiplayer since they haven't talked about it pay saying they will have it
@@optiTHOMAS I'm not arguing you comment, but co-op specifically talked about campaign, split screen multiplayer and parties are entirely different things, also the multiplayer is free so that will increase the pool for players significantly
Honestly... I think having a “Basic Forge”, like Halo 3 or Halo Reach level Forge for Launch, would help a LOT to tide us over until Infinite’s “Super Forge”.
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This video is strange watching it over a year later after couch coop was canceled entirely and forge still isn’t even out lol
When was the last time we got a game fully complete, with everything promised?