Puerto Rico Night Watch & Catalan Votes: VICE News Tonight Full Episode (HBO)

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  • Опубликовано: 7 июн 2024
  • We go on the night watch in post-hurricane Puerto Rico, the Supreme Court is back in session, Catalans vote in a contested election and a master falconer shows how his bird protects valuable U.S. Crops.
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Комментарии • 253

  • @TheGoozaflight
    @TheGoozaflight 6 лет назад +47

    Thanks VICE for keeping an eye out for us here in Puerto Rico.

    • @G5ive1
      @G5ive1 2 года назад

      Yes I would have agreed if VICE was busy pushing a narrative.... smh

    • @leataripledajaug
      @leataripledajaug Год назад

      😂😂😂😂😂

  • @notrandom2
    @notrandom2 6 лет назад +26

    Puerto Rico during the years 1990-2009, paid more in taxes than 6 Official States. Residents of the territory paid $73.7 billion to the Federal government in taxes.
    What they got in return, all during a crisis, was ... "F-you, wait, you're a burden". Why do they pay us taxes, if not for immediate assistance during a state of crises?

    • @LegendNinja41
      @LegendNinja41 6 лет назад +2

      because they're not real americans to most of the USA?
      it seems to be that they are seen as some kind of semi-americans by the rest.

    • @xpaintballxpr
      @xpaintballxpr 6 лет назад +1

      mad bro what is a semi-american? lmao

    • @LegendNinja41
      @LegendNinja41 6 лет назад +2

      puerto ricans, for some americans like trump maybe.

    • @koroborok2719
      @koroborok2719 2 года назад

      Lol, yeah thats true ... we are just as american ahha

    • @CeluiEtSeul
      @CeluiEtSeul 2 года назад

      Well ot kinda being treate the same way as D.C.

  • @oz311
    @oz311 6 лет назад +16

    🇵🇷 Fuerza Puerto Rico 🇵🇷 Fuerza Boricua 🇵🇷

  • @pvtpain66k
    @pvtpain66k 6 лет назад +4

    Would have been nice to have a warning that the first 3:00 of the video is a compilation of video from the Las Vegas shooting...

  • @evilmickey100
    @evilmickey100 6 лет назад +39

    I like the birdman

    • @dflatt1783
      @dflatt1783 6 лет назад

      Yeah that's super cool.

    • @NgenerationStudios
      @NgenerationStudios 6 лет назад +1

      at first I didn't like how they weren't quick enough to cover vegas but man I know now... all those videos were absolutely harrowing. indeed, glad they pieced it but ended with chill birdman and storm eagle

    • @sk8drewsk8
      @sk8drewsk8 6 лет назад

      I'm Bat Mane.

    • @coreyhopkins4960
      @coreyhopkins4960 6 лет назад

      badass, however, i wouldnt wanna be smokin a marlboro around my birds. especially if theyre my source of income.

  • @richardrivera3065
    @richardrivera3065 6 лет назад

    Thanks for the info

  • @rubyia312
    @rubyia312 6 лет назад +1

    Holy crap that last falcon abatement business seems so cool!

  • @nelsonroque7772
    @nelsonroque7772 6 лет назад +3

    My beautiful island Puerto Rico

  • @gladiator_games
    @gladiator_games 6 лет назад +7

    That's good they are still keeping order over there stay safe Puerto Rico

  • @dalicloud9
    @dalicloud9 6 лет назад

    I was just talking about falconry like a week ago. thats awesome.

  • @SuperJd78
    @SuperJd78 6 лет назад +3

    At the beginning Did anybody else hear simultaneous guns. First the echo was close and then 2 guns firing and then 1 far away echo.

  • @sacredthyme4617
    @sacredthyme4617 6 лет назад

    Falconry is AWEsome. LOVE he birds!

  • @ruddydurana5221
    @ruddydurana5221 2 года назад

    You guys should go in "caserios" residencial in puerto rico

  • @ericgarcia7710
    @ericgarcia7710 6 лет назад +1

    I’ve already seen all the videos. But how they mashed them up..... that was hard to watch 💔

  • @yuubae
    @yuubae 6 лет назад +2

    The falconry is the cutest thing I've ever seen. Love those birds and the idea. 😍

  • @btrdangerdan2010
    @btrdangerdan2010 6 лет назад +1

    What happened to the vice news intro ? I loved seeing it before the actual news started

  • @newtubefag
    @newtubefag 6 лет назад +7

    That was a surprisingly balanced and reasonable episode.

  • @pitking503
    @pitking503 6 лет назад

    14:46 that cop just shoved that lil dog. lolololol wtf

  • @richardrivera3065
    @richardrivera3065 6 лет назад

    Posteen más videos

  • @jeromealan4818
    @jeromealan4818 6 лет назад +9

    Stay strong Puerto Rico

  • @Bugjuck
    @Bugjuck 2 года назад +11

    I’m heartbroken on the State Puerto Rico is in....& how the government including in the states neglect Puerto Rico

    • @latindolphin
      @latindolphin 2 года назад

      God is working on this in Jesus awesome and mighty name. Amen 🇵🇷

    • @G5ive1
      @G5ive1 2 года назад

      @@latindolphin shut up bro. Jesus working on PR? How long does it take???? Huh??? Smh for the Boris having to survive your cliché ass statements don't do JACK.

    • @G5ive1
      @G5ive1 2 года назад

      So bottomline PR is simply incapable of EVER sustaining ITSELF? why can't US support PR same as it does Israel.... but WITHOUT having to CLAIM it

  • @PoTtZy.
    @PoTtZy. 6 лет назад +1

    I believe the correct term is "suppressor", far from silent.

  • @jonathanallen9596
    @jonathanallen9596 6 лет назад +3

    'Silencers' or sound suppressors are legal in many countries. Especially ones which want to preserve their wild game and wildlife in the Forrest during hunting season. The shots can be very stressful for wildlife. This technology can be used for certain types of firearms where the application is more for saftey than concealment. And also they don't silence anything most suppressors deaden the sound to more safe levels...the shots are still very loud and can be heard next door

    • @kingmeloalkaqn8018
      @kingmeloalkaqn8018 Год назад

      I’m pr is same class 3 level license like America it’s alll the stuff being sent in by mass quantities

  • @jennytorres2201
    @jennytorres2201 3 года назад +2

    laying on the ground is the best way avoiding get shot, my sister-in-law got shot and killed by stray bullet from running to safety. So in PR we are use to getting down on the floor when we hear gun shot 😒

  • @kevinbrooks1104
    @kevinbrooks1104 8 месяцев назад

    Did you see those people lay down instead of getting out of harms way

  • @colefitch6599
    @colefitch6599 6 лет назад

    Love the falkons

  • @folland34
    @folland34 6 лет назад +16

    Don't take their assault rifles, now's not the time! *sarcastic voice*. You're your own worst enemy, America

    • @Facts.Over.Feelings.2A-PRO
      @Facts.Over.Feelings.2A-PRO 3 года назад +1

      guns don't kill bud, and what tf is now's?

    • @Johnpork.0
      @Johnpork.0 2 года назад +1

      Keep your firearms when the police take time to arrive you will need them

  • @blightboy1
    @blightboy1 6 лет назад +28

    "Nothing can be done to prevent this" Says only nation where this regularly happens....

    • @BlazeBacon
      @BlazeBacon 6 лет назад

      What?

    • @Cooltaha
      @Cooltaha 6 лет назад +1

      Exactly. I wish they would take Australia as an example.

    • @Cooltaha
      @Cooltaha 6 лет назад +1

      Flips And Paint Lol

    • @blightboy1
      @blightboy1 6 лет назад +3

      www.gunviolencearchive.org/
      They do regularly happen, sure not to THIS degree, but the sheer number of shootings is shocking...
      There have been 12000 deaths so far in 2017, 25000 injuries. 2500 of those were Teens, and 564 of them were children. If you don't think this is a problem, you aren't paying attention.

    • @MihaiRUdeRO
      @MihaiRUdeRO 6 лет назад +1

      Australia's gun violence has remained at relatively the same levels after the gun ban over 20 years ago. Mass shootings are rarer there because that country's entire population is the size of New York

  • @chuckkissel2785
    @chuckkissel2785 6 лет назад

    Your story on the falconer was beautiful please find more stories that him and his birds.

  • @king-oreos4003
    @king-oreos4003 6 лет назад +1

    A sad week

  • @alphaalfalfa9489
    @alphaalfalfa9489 6 лет назад

    Mounted on tripods? Ok.......

  • @Ericson-vk6bx
    @Ericson-vk6bx 2 года назад +1

    Puerto Rico has more inhabitants than the city of Chicago 😎✌️🇵🇷

  • @klutch8753
    @klutch8753 2 года назад

    A chinese type 56 AK with a drum magazine would've done a lot more damage in that vegas crowd.

  • @collaponce80
    @collaponce80 10 месяцев назад

    That is not Puerto Rico, that’s Las Vegas

  • @rayfordcarpathia4015
    @rayfordcarpathia4015 6 лет назад

    I'm so glad Vice got rid of that annoying intro.

  • @eternaldeagold8280
    @eternaldeagold8280 6 лет назад +2

    Like the Catalans aren't violent against the police....

  • @javieraramirez4289
    @javieraramirez4289 6 лет назад +1

    I seriously do not understand why the media has been so supportive of the catalan independence movement and so against brexit, when in reality it is pretty much the same!

    • @firebender1174
      @firebender1174 6 лет назад +2

      Javiera Ramirez Because The UK government didn't beat and intimidate Their own people

  • @mikegutierrez315
    @mikegutierrez315 6 лет назад

    Get to the chopper!!!! It's a sad moment in our lives. As Ron Simmons would say(DAMN)!!!!!!!!!

  • @elquelosmatasinpistolas.960
    @elquelosmatasinpistolas.960 4 года назад +3

    GRACIAS PUERTO RICO UNAMONOS POR EL FUTURO DE LA ISLA PAREN LA VIOLENCIA POR ESTUPIDESES AUNQUE PERDER UN SER AMADO NO ES UNA ESTUPIDES PERO NO APRENDER DE LO MALO LO ES AMO A MI PUERTO RICO A MI GENTE PERO NOS TIENEN COMO PLAGA DONDE QUIERA QUE VAMOS Y HAY QUE HACER ALGO PARA CAMBIER ESA IMAGEN NEGATIVA QUE TIENEN DE NOSOTROS P.R.LOS AMO JOVENES LEVANTE A PUERTO RICO NO LO SIGAN MATANDO. DIOS LOS BENDIGA.

  • @5ithofnov159
    @5ithofnov159 6 лет назад +6

    Spain should rename itself the United Irabian state . And give Catalan Basque and Valencia a United government.

    • @ladedade23Blunticus
      @ladedade23Blunticus 6 лет назад +1

      Spain was a muslim country in its beginnings dumb ass it only turned catholic with queen isabella

  • @ladedade23Blunticus
    @ladedade23Blunticus 6 лет назад +1

    they thought the gunshots at the start was the dubstep mix, why they stood around at first...I blame dubstep for the many injured

  • @loveiskind23izamar
    @loveiskind23izamar 6 лет назад

    18:10 Pablo Escobar?

  • @robertsontirado4478
    @robertsontirado4478 6 лет назад

    The politicians say band bump stock whatever, band all the guns bump stock can be put on.

  • @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing
    @WindFireAllThatKindOfThing 6 лет назад +5

    I don't care to hear another word about the life or motivations of Paddock. Ever. He deserves not one iota of remembrance. What I do want to see is at least a few minutes each day about every person we lost in Vegas and in Puerto Rico. Who they were, their yearbook and childhood pictures, what they did both good and bad. I want to have a REAL FUCKING THOUGHT for victims, Media. No more lip service, no more victim-mandala pictures and-then-move-on bullshit.
    Stop saying thoughts and prayers when you have no idea who to pray for when you have not one name in your thoughts. Jeremy Christian's name is forever known for the stabbing of three men who stood up to his Nazi ass on a train for two scared girls, but people have to google *THEIR* names. Ricky Best, dead. Taliesin Namkai-Meche, dead. Micah Fletcher, who survived. But all people will know is Christian's name.
    Stop giving perpetrators their 5 minutes of fame, and start spending it on those we lost, Media.

    • @LegendNinja41
      @LegendNinja41 6 лет назад +2

      i appreciate your comment, thanks.

    • @Jenkowelten
      @Jenkowelten 10 месяцев назад +1

      Just mentioning their name is 5 minutes of fame? What?

  • @Legitwolfpack
    @Legitwolfpack 6 лет назад

    That shooting was disgusting...

  • @johnrobert6821
    @johnrobert6821 6 лет назад

    thts three different shooters i hate how the media lies about everything

  • @egshane
    @egshane 6 лет назад +1

    "thousands of people are dead"

  • @lamarthomas2827
    @lamarthomas2827 6 лет назад +4

    This is why you don't play country music

  • @thagreatfrank3071
    @thagreatfrank3071 6 лет назад

    Has anybody seen the video where the guy is trying to tell the girls he’s with that it’s not a real gun & people are overreacting!

  • @nicholasreed9180
    @nicholasreed9180 6 лет назад +1

    the spanish civil war 2: electric boogaloo

  • @kikegonzalomartin5453
    @kikegonzalomartin5453 6 лет назад

    And one more thing: there were 4 people injured, not 900. That was a manipulation from the Catalan Regional Government that has already been discovered. They counted as injured even people who were just anxious.

  • @i-qexitz3653
    @i-qexitz3653 3 года назад

    Bro that's not even Puerto Rico

  • @cristhianandrade3429
    @cristhianandrade3429 2 года назад

    They're laying on the ground cause they've been in war and know that's the best todo

  • @killuificould
    @killuificould 6 лет назад +3

    Suppressors.......they are not silencers.

  • @robertquinones535
    @robertquinones535 11 месяцев назад

    It’s men’s hearts. Not guns.

  • @ksteve9807
    @ksteve9807 6 лет назад +2

    Why do Americans not stop having firearem? even though many people have been died from firearm everyday

    • @LegendNinja41
      @LegendNinja41 6 лет назад

      It's not about having firearms or not, it's about the weapons and a lot of people in the USA seem to need their military and automatic weapons with whom you can just ''spray'' into crowds of people and kill 50-100 people within a minute and don't even need to aim really.
      Here in Germany guns are allowed, but only smaller weapons and hunting rifles (no automatic) i think it's the same in the UK or atleast England and Canada.

  • @patriotchicken
    @patriotchicken 4 года назад +1

    I want people to know GUNS don’t kill PEOPLE KILL

  • @woloabel
    @woloabel 6 лет назад

    Excellente permanente...falx.

  • @blockchainbot.6596
    @blockchainbot.6596 6 лет назад +2

    Puerto Rico should break off From America. Becoming an independent nation,Puerto Rico have been screwed over by America Policy enough.

    • @epramos6800
      @epramos6800 6 лет назад

      Then what? Next disaster, no FEMA, Federal AID, Student Loans, FDOE funds, SNAP Benefits etc, etc, etc.

    • @mikecose6122
      @mikecose6122 6 лет назад

      E P Ramos There was no help as it is stupid. that's what famous people had to come out and raise money.. pathetic government.

  • @raiderfrankdatank
    @raiderfrankdatank 6 лет назад +1

    Maybe there wasnt a reason 4 da shooting. Just a rich dude went mad

    • @reck8085
      @reck8085 6 лет назад

      eph elle yeah killed 300 an counting. Very mad so mad he must be sick. You think he would just get angry an pull the trigger nah dude i surveyed my time behind the the barrel and its not just that easy. You have to have that mentality of it. Not point an bang bang. You go though thoughts an you feel it when the target hits the ground.

  • @sebastianposada4458
    @sebastianposada4458 5 лет назад

    Occupy, may symbolically represent Occupation/ Career/ the idea of institutions that are un-environmentally friendly and/ or take necessary resources of attention from populations that have or are being neglected, homeless, hungry, poor, gay, heterosexual, meat eaters, tech companies that have the infrastructure to create a transparent real time human security network, idealists, positive children's perspectives, and more, american bullying psychology is an archaic character building mechanism that no longer holds validity with the proper implementation of a transparent real time human security network.

  • @Noeruiz1990
    @Noeruiz1990 6 лет назад +3

    Thats the U.S for you. When 2nd amendment was written i dont think they had full automatic machine guns for civilians.

    • @Noeruiz1990
      @Noeruiz1990 6 лет назад +1

      Thomas G Yeah and for a a depressed white dude to shoot up 500+ innocent ppl.

    • @imascammerhaha
      @imascammerhaha 6 лет назад

      George W Bush automatic weapons have been banned in this country for a very long time.

    • @Nox1234567891011
      @Nox1234567891011 6 лет назад

      Not if u have time and money

  • @estherseo3065
    @estherseo3065 6 лет назад +7

    So sad what is happening in Spain... the government needs to give Catalonia their independence, and perhaps in the future there can be a reunification

    • @eternaldeagold8280
      @eternaldeagold8280 6 лет назад +1

      most Catalans are anti-independence, what you say is pure ignorance

    • @eternaldeagold8280
      @eternaldeagold8280 6 лет назад

      Julian Carbajal but come oooon, the Catalans avoided every single chance at making a legal referendum, they're the ones who want to do it illegally, because they know they'll lose otherwise

  • @arslongavitabrebis
    @arslongavitabrebis 6 лет назад

    How a feeling can be more important than peace and stability? Many countries had serious economical problems, unity and collaboration is the best alternative to overcome them. The issue is not past governments, racial confrontation or migration, the problem is not in the past, the problem is in the present and it has an economical nature. The hole world is suffering the consequences of the last word economical crisis. Division and conflict are seen everywhere, fragmentation will only make life harder for everyone. The destruction of the system will not guarantee better conditions. It's better to think of ways to transform and improve rather than break and rebuild. It is hard to imagine California exiting USA, they could have many good reasons to do so, but the sense of unity makes America strong and all Americans know this. There is now difference in this sense with Spain or European Union. Even many people in London, Scotland and Northern Ireland can understand that strength resides in numbers and that's why they don't want to leave the EU. As a note I must say that all Spanish people suffered Franco's regime and the consequences of the civil war, not only the Catalans.

  • @SweetLilWren
    @SweetLilWren 6 лет назад

    We are doing it wrong America

  • @davidsas2815
    @davidsas2815 6 лет назад

    Actually most catalonians don't want independence. Last sunday millions of people went out of the streets of Barcelona claiming for not independence.
    And by the way, yesterday puigdemont declared he is not finally declaring catalonian republic, he stept back, so I guess it is all said. Maybe a bit late cause more than 20 big companies left catalonia in the last week.
    I do agree though the politicians in Spain are mostly corrupt and incompetent but you people also have to know that a catalonian politician, Pujol, is at this time one of the most corrupts and one of the politicians that have stolen the most. This Pujol was the "predecesor" of puigdemont, and one of the liders of the separatist movement in the last months before puigdemont took power...
    Oh, I also have to say I don't like the way the police acted on that day, that day should have been avoided, but also lots of people that appeared on social media claiming the police hit them and injured them have been caught lying , with false wounds and previous wounds the claimed to have been made by the police.
    Anyway, this whole thing is a mess and I am pretty sad it happened, but is more complicated than the media shows to the world
    Regards.

  • @jag5798
    @jag5798 6 лет назад

    Everyone is against guns, until they need them. We are up against the border of Mexico, a country where their killing rate is higher than a war in Iraq or Afghanistan. How crazy would it be to be a soft country of unarmed citizens?

  • @senorsquish1
    @senorsquish1 6 лет назад

    why do we have 63 dislikes ?

  • @brothermalcolm6245
    @brothermalcolm6245 6 лет назад +14

    If you hate Vice for being leftists, then you're welcome to Unsubscribe.

    • @corneliussmith4907
      @corneliussmith4907 6 лет назад +1

      Have you noticed how moat black intellectuals are mixed raced? Might this have to do with blacks being leas intellgient?

    • @AvgJane19
      @AvgJane19 6 лет назад

      Cornelius Smith lol but you just spelled less wrong..k

  • @mindy2215
    @mindy2215 3 года назад

    That is the result of human and drug traffic along the coasts of the island. They are not only a big public burden to the island but a plague difficult to control. RD a primary crossroad for cocaine and heroin from South America, a $5 billion a year trade that eventually makes its way to comprise the majority of the street level drugs in the United States and Europe. WASHINGTON - The U.S. Department of the Treasury’s Office of Foreign Assets Control (OFAC) has stated that drug dealers from Dominican Republic smuggle tons of cocaine and opioids into the United States and Europe.
    According to statistics, investigations, and the Federal Census of the USA Bureau, Dominican Republic is the poorest migratory group with almost all population depending on food stamps and being a huge public burden to the USA nation. Food-stamp fraud in New York has turned into foreign aid - to black-market profiteers in the Dominican Republic.The Post revealed how Dominicans on welfare are buying food with their benefit cards and shipping it in blue barrels to poor relatives in Dom Rep. Councilman Peter Vallone Jr. yesterday called food-stamp fraud scheme ... on their EBT cards then shipping them to the Dominican Republic to be sold. ... money is being used to make a profit in other countries is a slap in our face.”.

  • @esaisrodriguez399
    @esaisrodriguez399 6 лет назад

    a little much with that footage

  • @latindolphin
    @latindolphin 2 года назад

    🙏🏼 May the whole world come to know our Lord and Savior, Jesus!!

  • @antoniocuestamartinez7068
    @antoniocuestamartinez7068 6 лет назад

    I am from spain an the catalunian people there not been peacefuly with the corps

  • @megamiazga
    @megamiazga 6 лет назад

    1936 REVOLUTION - DO IT AGAIN, CATALONIA!

  • @curlyhairkld
    @curlyhairkld 6 лет назад +3

    Great job trump *NOT*

  • @gregajezersek9473
    @gregajezersek9473 6 лет назад +1

    if evryone had a gun they coud defend them selves...

  • @Paragraf100
    @Paragraf100 6 лет назад

    Police should be illegal

  • @saddamhuseyin5092
    @saddamhuseyin5092 6 лет назад

    No guns = peace

    • @thisisemchii
      @thisisemchii 6 лет назад

      thats not entirely true, countries that dont have open gun laws like the us, still get tragedies like this. take norway for example, breivik became a farmer only so that he could get access chemicals and he blew a bunch of people up. if someone wants to kill people, they'll find a way.

  • @jillianalto7996
    @jillianalto7996 3 года назад

    bitc lasaa

  • @alexproctor7002
    @alexproctor7002 2 года назад

    Guns are not issue. 🤦🏻‍♂️

  • @fortis3686
    @fortis3686 6 лет назад +24

    Ok Spain, you have 3 choices. Either, you let Catalonia gain independence peacefully, or you refuse, and some radical separtist movement forms and tries to gain independence throught armed struggle. Or just another civil war, which ever one you choose.

    • @seamsergio
      @seamsergio 6 лет назад +6

      Alonzo Aldaba what this video shows is so biased. What the separatists have done is a coup, not a military coup, but a coup. And the government will do what it’s necessary to prevent it. The police was in Catalonia to avoid something illegal, that’s what some people don’t understand.

    • @inigomartinez3969
      @inigomartinez3969 6 лет назад +4

      Megarockstar And other option was letting them making the referendum and if is ilegal do not validate it. But in this great country we like to send police to hit and opress everythig that dont please to this "democratic" goveremnt. If the police was doing a good job our fantastic and "not corrupt" president and his friends would be in prission. Many people thinks that is a free and democratic country but it didn't changed to much from the 75. Come on, we live in a country with corrups politicians, agressive and opressors enforcement groups and an useless king witch only talks in chrismas and kills elephants. Don't justify that violence

    • @TimeManInJail
      @TimeManInJail 6 лет назад +2

      even if they want independence how on earth will they obtain resources? they just going to suffocate. A COUNTRY NEED A MILITARY to even have a say.

    • @inigomartinez3969
      @inigomartinez3969 6 лет назад +1

      john nguyen Yes, thats true and Im not independentist. But this goverment has been doing a very bad work for many many years, with many corrupst politicians, even the royal family. They're laughting about all the spanish people using their money and taxes to buy things for them or letting their friend's construction corporations building useless things. And if the people tries to oppose them, is easy, they always use the police to erradicalize it. Everybody knows that is economicaly and politicaly very dificult and nearly imposible to makemthe independence true, but with the years they're giving reasons.

    • @sosaq3841
      @sosaq3841 6 лет назад

      Alonzo Aldaba
      Civil warrr!

  • @noelcasillas5848
    @noelcasillas5848 4 года назад

    LA 🏝️ DEL DESENCANTO LA 🏝️ DEL 👻

  • @ride0RgetR0DE0n
    @ride0RgetR0DE0n 6 лет назад +28

    it's strange to see how the liberals who absolutely hated brexit now support catalan independence. What changed?

    • @5ithofnov159
      @5ithofnov159 6 лет назад

      Based God I agree . I believe the alt left are just very sentimental and if they see violence they get angry and want to protect the week.

    • @dahasolomon7314
      @dahasolomon7314 6 лет назад +7

      Catalonia is the most liberal region in Spain and independence is being supported by them, whereas the Brexiters where all mostly conservative....its all politics in the end. Every group is as crooked as the next.

    • @brothermalcolm6245
      @brothermalcolm6245 6 лет назад +1

      Based God Get out of mommy's basement.

    • @morb0yo
      @morb0yo 6 лет назад +1

      This. I'm a hardline liberal and anti-brexit but I can't understand for the life of me why similar people support an independent Catalonia.
      I guess a lot of people are just thick.

    • @user-eh5wo8re3d
      @user-eh5wo8re3d 6 лет назад +1

      Based God, you cant just generalize like that. I consider myself liberal and I think both Brexit and Catalonian Independence are bad moves. Today the whole economy relies on connectivity and unions. US + Canada + Mexico, EU, etc.
      Leaving Spain will force companies to relocate out of Barcelona which in turn will be very bad for the local economy. Smaller entities are less powerful in todays markets. Same with Brexit, many companies will move from London to some European City

  • @kikegonzalomartin5453
    @kikegonzalomartin5453 6 лет назад +5

    Here in Spain we have some bad politicians, but it is completely a democracy where people can say and do wahtever they want. A part of Catalonia population believe that independence is going to fix all of their problems, but they are being fooled. They will be out of the European Union and all of their big companies will leave Catalonia. Moreover, more than half the Catalan population want to remain being a part of Spain, but independentists call them "fascists" and "bad Catalans". There is a pretty much more complicated situation than what the video shows, since Catalonia Government is violating several laws in this process. They don't want to debate democratically but to proclaim a Catalan country without a real vote.

  • @thepragmaticchoice
    @thepragmaticchoice 6 лет назад +9

    and they want more guns to fix this problem -.-

  • @TiWavy
    @TiWavy 6 лет назад

    White Karma

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 6 лет назад +14

    I am a liberal. I do not wish to see an independent Catalonia. A UK like devolved government and union is the max I can support.

    • @DuragAllDay
      @DuragAllDay 6 лет назад +2

      Napoleon I Bonaparte Why?

    • @napoleonibonaparte7198
      @napoleonibonaparte7198 6 лет назад +1

      Duron Wise Same situation with Scotland, isn’t it?

    • @sosaq3841
      @sosaq3841 6 лет назад +4

      Napoleon I Bonaparte
      Vive Catalan

    • @komradematt8025
      @komradematt8025 6 лет назад +3

      no Catalonia is more wealthy and can do better with out the rest of Spain dragging it down were as Scotland is not so wealthy and could not stand on its own if it left the UK

    • @reconquista4011
      @reconquista4011 6 лет назад +1

      Komrade Matt I'm sure you feel obligated to defend Catalonia probably over some wet dream you have over Civil War era Catalonian communism, but just because the region is wealthy now, does not mean it would be as wealthy or as well-off without Spain. Without Spain it would have almost no way to get into the EU. Spain would block them, France would block them because France also has a Catalonia region and would not dare to support such secession, and most other EU member countries seem to disapprove of Catalonia's actions. On top of that, the threat of not being in the EU or as part of Spain has already sent some banks and businesses to relocate, and has prompted MANY more to make plans to move in the case of secession.
      There is literally no proper argument from a break away from Spain (a country that has been joined with Catalonia for over 5 centuries) except "the police were mean :( !!"

  • @spacecatboy2962
    @spacecatboy2962 6 лет назад +1

    well, left wing vice lured us into that trap

    • @spacecatboy2962
      @spacecatboy2962 6 лет назад

      no, all these anti gun morons need help, understanding history and human rights

    • @spacecatboy2962
      @spacecatboy2962 6 лет назад

      if you people dont want to live where people can own guns, move to another country

  • @Will-rd2is
    @Will-rd2is Год назад

    Horrible just absolutely horrible