@@thedon0516same here bro I never heard ANYONE say this. I like the album too, probably my favorite from Cole, but I never heard somebody saying this. Most people call the album boring
MMESYF is a classic imo. I don’t think an album really needs super complex lyrics to hit that mark, there’s beauty and quality in some of the straight forward nature of it imo, but how he tells these stories is beautiful. Also troubles is an incredible song.
@@nbabackcourtmedia I get that, but there's a reason why it's called classic, if not, any great project would be a classic even if it came out yesterday
I feel like it will age as a cult classic. It might never be at the forefront of hip hop classics, but the people who know about it will swear by it for good reason
@@1MinuteVibe I mean I like to give it at least a year most of the time, but nothing crazy. Just generally not a fan of the time restriction preventing someone from saying an album is a classic
These's no way were actually claiming FYEO was as impactful as Monster. Monster defined a whole trap era to come and is definitely worth considering a classic. Also melt my eyes - its a good album but its weaker than Denzel's previous two. Especially in terms of production
Ive tried SO HARD to enjoy that album like everyone else but its SOO overrated IMO, Its still a great album, But there are plenty of tracks in the second half that are kinda stale & basic. I think SIMBI deserves the status that TFS has tbh, Rapping is on par, But it nails its concept better and production is much more lush and epic, I think SIMBI, LP! & Manger On McNichols are the best albums to come out in the 20's decade thus far tbh
another hot take: a classic album doesn't need to reach the masses upon it release to make an impact. As long as the hip hop community is aware and see the vision, it made its impact. Take Madvillainy for example, it didn't reach the masses but the community took in in high regard, and overtime future hip hop fans got caught up, and we're taking in high regard as well.
I agree with this completely, but madvillainy needed time to become discovered and gain momentum enough to be considered a classic. If you were listening to madvillainy right when it dropped and you called it classic, you would be wrong. even though you had good foresight that it eventually would become one lol
They got me on that Yuno Miles take. I actually went to look for his music, excited by the thought of discovering something fresh and fire. OMG was i in for a surprise 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Astroworld is the last classic album because Igor came out in May of 2019 so technically it does not pass the 5 year rule. But in one month it will be. And in December PEMFBAS will become a classic as well. (I follow the five year rule religiously)
You two should listen to Nate off of the search. One of the best song concepts I’ve ever heard and NF does such a great job making the listener feel like his younger self. I’d definitely call Nate a perfect song and honestly one of the best songs I’ve ever heard
underground classics like a piece of strange by cunninlynguists, the cold vein by cannibal ox, stress: the extinction agenda by organized konfusion, below the heavens by blu and exile, and more are miles beyond albums like get rich or die trying, tha carter iii, the eminem show, etc.
I feel like that's almost a given; to have a massive album on that mainstream level you pretty much have to compromise SOME of your artistic vision, whereas, if you're more underground there are less of those pressures. The advantage mainstream artists have is that they will be able to make a bigger impact, making it feel more classic as it's almost a defining moment that everyone can remember
Sure get rich or die trying but the Carter iii is pretty good. And Kendrick and Kanye have proven truly brilliant hip hop can be done with enormous mass appeal in the modern era (rip to kanye making good music though)
@@PasteurizedLettuce its not about better but about what had the bigger impact and influence on the culture. For eg, ds2 isnt a perfect albums by any means to me but its a classic cuz of how it changed the trap scene forever. masterpieces and perfect albums dont have to be classics(simbi) whereas mediocre projects can be considered classics(whole lotta red)
@@PasteurizedLettuce I enjoyed wlr but personally it pales in comparison to die lit and self titled. whatever the case is, wlr is definitely his most classic work, it has changed the game way too much if you look at the rage rap scene
Exactly. I don’t know how this was even an argument. Monster dropped when Future was still on his come up and that tape basically cemented where Future would go from there. It’s easily one of the most important projects for the emerging late-trap sound that would become the most prominent sound in hip hop for the next like half a decade at least if not further. 4YEO came after Cole had already released FHD, and that was widely considered as “his classic”, not to mention 4YEO has “Folding Clothes” on it which consistently gets dunked on for being boring. Until this video, I’ve never heard anyone say that 4YEO is a classic. Tl;dr: Monster - yes, 4YEO - no
i mean most people have thought this long before fantano said it, maybe if you guys stop saying its one of the best rap albums ever (or even of the 2000's for that matter) and comparing it to illmatic, 36 chambers, madvillainy etc... and just see it for the good but not great album it is then we wouldn't have to call it overrated.
13:50 did Ant refer to What a Time to Be Alive as a classic, after not mentioning it for either Future or Drake in the earlier discussion? (00:40) I feel like this is an example of the term being thrown around too easily!
2:09 I’ve never heard a single soul say that 4YEO is one of the best concept/storytelling hip hop albums. I also don’t see the “impact” it had on music. And that’s Cole’s best album imo
Future has 3 classics: ds2, monster, 56 nights easily. U guys are tripping, Monster is 100x more influential than 4YEO ever was it is not about the better album.
Future has one classic and it’s DS2, because a classic is something that is agreed upon by the majority of people, and everyone picks a different album other than DS2.
They don’t want to give The Boy his credit cause they huge kdot Stans and this channel full of them but Drake has atleast 5 minimum and I’m being nice. So Far Gone TAKE CARE NWTS IYRTITL Views All certified classics Thank me later. WATTBA, and Scorpion
Self titled is a classic and 56 nights and purple reign are teetering on classics in my opinion. The latter two are so influential to sounds in ways you might not pick up on in a revisionist sense but at the time it opened new avenues for a multitude of up and coming rappers, they all have unique sonic pallettes
This decade has given us 3 classics thus far: SIMBI by Little Simz, TFS by J.I.D and Alfredo by The Alchemist & Freddie Gibbs There are a few in contention like Pray for Paris, HWH8, Limbo, MMESYF, KD I II III and Magic 1, Cheat Codes, MM&TBS, Heroes and Villains and CMIYGL
People do overuse the classic status but cmon be serious. Take care and nothing was the same are easily classics, so is born sinner and fhd. Fhd literally went platinum with no features and I’m not a big future listener but most consider ds2 and monster classics. Don’t be a kdot Stan bruh lol.
I don’t understand how it’s not. It takes the zaniness of previous Eminem albums that leaned hard into the whole Slim Shady persona and cranked it up to 100 then ripped off the knob. In terms of the wackiness + depravity of Slim Shady, it’s the quintessential Eminem album.
Hey gentlemen, I love your tier list videos! I think you should do a tier list of all the MF Doom collaboration albums. I know Madvilliany gets all the love, but I prefer DangerDoom’s album, The Mouse and the Mask!!
A classic is when even those who aren’t a huge fan of the artist unanimously call it a classic. Future has DS2, cole has fhd, drake has thank me later. Thats it for those guys. Kendrick only has gkmc and tpab, so he still wins but i dont think the dust has even settled on damn yet. yall giving out classics too easy to me but hey thats me lol
Not every very good to amazing album is a classic. Look back at the other decades, there’s a reason there’s not dozens of CLASSICS to go back to over the years, only a handful. A lot of really great albums fade over time even after great immediate impact or impact over a span of a few years
Bruh imo at least 2-3 years gotta go by for you to even consider an album classic and it can’t have more than 2 skips(illmatic, gkmc, fhd, graduation, etc). I feel like a lot of people in these comments got loose ass standards for a classic album. Clb has more than 3 skips, that automatically disqualifies it for a classic album imo. Ima drake and j cole fan but to say clb is classic and you don’t even mention the off season is pretty wild. If clb is somehow a classic the off season easily is.
@@SweaterSwagg bruh… tpab is a classic and a masterpiece. Sure there a lil different… but an album doesn’t have to be a pure masterpiece to be a classic. What’s your point of saying this? It seems like you tryna nitpick lol.
In my opinion J Cole only has one classic. Friday Night Lights in handicapped by not being on streaming, it’s gone unheard by even a good amount of Cole fans. I also don’t consider 4yeo a classic album. I think it’s good but its not up there with a pablo and 4:44. I think it’s better for its concept than it’s actual music. If 4yeo is a classic then so is Mr Morale. Also Future has multiple classics. Ds2 and Monster are trap albums. HNDRXX and Future are part of his legendary 2017 run and definitely classics to most future fans.
If you’re a future fan, yes, but I mean, would anyone like me calling DONDA a classic just because I like Kanye? Gotta look at the quality, and future never matched DS2 elsewhere
I understand what y'all trying to say, But I think there are albums that are 100% classics for the lanes they're in that aren't unanimously celebrated in terms of popularity. XXX & Atrocity Exhibition by Danny Brown or Pinata & Bandana by Freddie Gibbs for example I'd absolutely consider classics, Even if they aren't as widely known by the masses. I think there are several instances of this honestly, 1999 by Joey Badass is an underground classic, IMO the greatest mixtape of all time but the majority of people haven't heard of it. Veteran by JPEGMAFIA is an experimental classic, Probably the most unique, Off the wall album I've heard and the majority of people haven't heard of it. Also, I know people love to clown on Logic but projects like Undeniable, WTF or Under Pressure I honestly believe people would be more willing to consider a classic if his career didn't go in the direction it did, People forget just how highly regarded Logic was at one point before he dropped 1800 and slowly became the internets punching bag, Now people are even too afraid to give Logic any praise whatsoever cause they know they'll likely get made fun of, But his YS/UP days were legit.
Magnum opus does NOT mean flawless Lu, it just means a piece of art regarded as the most important work of art for an artist. For many, many people they see C III as that for Wayne.
Because Nav doesn’t have any good albums when considered as cohesive projects. Gotta first be a good album to be a classic. That’s like requirement #0 on the criteria list for classic status.
@@EazyRocko sure that can be true but that’s not the point of my comment lmao. Most people didn’t like the album first listen and a lot of people still don’t like it😂it’s just weird to me, y’all tryna make people like clb lol
Ik it doesn't fit the vibe of the album, but I honestly couldn't see Melt My Eyes without Troubles. I loved seeing T-Pain after he was gone for so long, the songs a vibe and I don't skip a single track off of Melt My Eyes. I would consider it a classic, definitely.
Man, I really wish WTT was a morden classic, I think it would be at the top with TPAB, GKMC and MBDTF Also I wanted to take a hot take about Logic's The Incredible True Story (also sorry I couldn't type the acronym for the title for it because it would be extremely inappropriate especially with the RUclips guidelines, so I gotta keep it kid friendly for RUclips), but um now going back with what I'm commenting about, I believe it is a underrated and overlooked of a modren classic 🤔, and hear me out because it's his most focus and cohesive album I've ever heard and albums I've heard, the songs blend together as a blender very well in it's entirely, plus there are no skips for me on it (not a single one, I could easy play it to front to back), it is important when it first came out (I also wanted to note the first scene in the intro about how important it was going to be for Logic's career), it's also important because it is the first LP he went commercial, then he took off to be little more recognizable (after the release of The Incredible True Story), yes, before Everybody was the one, yes, there wasn't really no radio singles on it, but Like Woah played was everywhere on the NBA commercial, I believe it to be the 2016 one (don't quote me on that), but anyways, he even have the legendary voice actor who played Spike off of Cowboy Bebop on this LP playing a brand new character for crying out loud, imo it's still a classic you could disagree all u want, but don't poke fun of me, pls in the comment selection, keep it nice, you can't forget it's just my opinion 😁
Because it’s not. Is it a good Cole album? Absolutely? Is it “one of the greatest concept albums the hip hop community has ever seen”? No, no it’s not.
@@loganleatherman7647 its definitely one of the greatest concept albums in THIS generation. atleast for 2010's decades, so it should be considered a classic
Hi nfr im the 2001 take guy and I would like to explain why I wrote that comment. I recently decided to listen to 2001 all the way throughout a few weeks ago (im only 15 and new to hiphop so i've never listened to it) and my expectactions were high as hell,not only cause people talk so well about it but also because I absolutely LOVE some of its biggest hits like still dre and forgot about dre(those are like my favourite songs ever lmao) and I dont know why but that was prolly THE most disappointing listen ive had since I started listening to hiphop,and thats because my expectations were so high I was expecting every track to be a forgot about dre or a xxplosive,but I ended up not getting CLOSE to like it as much as I wanted to.I just got frustrated by how i wouldnt find a song id love as much as a still dre, so every other song i came across on the album felt like a skip to me(hope that makes sense lol).Ima have to listen to it again whit a open mind to be able to understand the hipe.
this makes sense but just know this kinda stuff always changes with time. i used to only like the hits off of MM FOOD by MF DOOM but now when i revisit it i appreciate the deep cuts wayyyyyy more. 2001 is an album like that. you’ll come to appreciate the deeper cuts with time
For all the kids that saying get rich or die trying is 7/10 album, if you go ask each rapper in the genre he will agree that is top top 6 albums of all time!
Because Monster was way, way more important to the emerging hip hop sound at the time than any Cole album has ever been. The Cole albums were great, don’t get me wrong, but they weren’t anywhere near as important for hip hop as a whole as Monster was. Future basically ushered in the neo-trap sound of the mid-2010s with Monster, 56 Nights, and DS2.
because substance and depth doesnt always equal great and shallowness or whats percieved as just "fun" doesnt always equal bad. thats something you and alot of j cole fans are yet to get because i can tell you think 4 your eyes only is so much better then monster because its so much deeper when future isnt trying to attempt depth whatsoever, monster is the more consistent project imo and it had a bigger impact on hip hop then 4 your eyes only did.
I love the way that they talk about yuno in a serious tone 😭
why wouldn’t they
Yuno is smoking your top 5 😮💨
Yh it’s so funny
@@kylejohnson2977Nobody smoking Joeyy
@@kylejohnson2977tonight
Thank god people finally understand how good Yuno Miles is
He should at least be in everyone’s top 3
@@qaqtix6700alongside ice jj fish
@@qaqtix6700hes top 1 overall anyone who says anything else is automatically incorrect
jokes old now
Old and overused joke
we need more free smoke episodes, love the friendly/unfriendly conversations haha and I also love the hot pepper/chip videos
For real, now we need a section 80 versus Kod, JCOLE!!😂
@@Alan-que Nav perfect timing vs Madvillainy for best rapper producer collab album
@@Prodbyjah464Yeah it’s obviously Perfect Timing
@@alexisdrouin5701 I know but it's the only one that comes close enough
@@Prodbyjah464the joke flew way over your head
😂😂 i was laughing so hard with yall joking about yuno miles
“Dr Dre studies this production”
joking? Yuno is a lyrical legend up there with Mozart and Beethoven
@@mxderate they weren’t even lyricists
@@maytt7he's joking😂
@@maytt7 thats the point
3:10 nah Ant tripping that analogy was great
it was amazing
Ant tripping for real 😭
ant never has good takes
3:11 I liked that analogy 😔
1:38 We Cry Together moment 😂😂😂
fr
Ant is malding
it’s a good day when nfr uploads
FOR REAL
Loved the chocolate analogy Lu 😅😂
FYEO is regarded as one of the best concept albums that hip hop has ever seen?!? I’ve never heard that until now
nah frl lol
Fr bro😭 they doing this all the time with Cole, also views being considered as classic is mad garbage take
Nobody has ever said that shit before LOL
That shit is TRASH, they choke on Cole and Drake’s meat all the time
@@thedon0516same here bro I never heard ANYONE say this. I like the album too, probably my favorite from Cole, but I never heard somebody saying this. Most people call the album boring
I low key liked that Dark Chocolate analogy 🍫 Ant trippen. 😤
MMESYF is a classic imo. I don’t think an album really needs super complex lyrics to hit that mark, there’s beauty and quality in some of the straight forward nature of it imo, but how he tells these stories is beautiful. Also troubles is an incredible song.
Amazing album, but too soon to tell if it could be considered classic
@@1MinuteVibe I disagree, I don’t really like putting a time restriction on these things. If the album is that good then that’s just it imo
@@nbabackcourtmedia I get that, but there's a reason why it's called classic, if not, any great project would be a classic even if it came out yesterday
I feel like it will age as a cult classic. It might never be at the forefront of hip hop classics, but the people who know about it will swear by it for good reason
@@1MinuteVibe I mean I like to give it at least a year most of the time, but nothing crazy. Just generally not a fan of the time restriction preventing someone from saying an album is a classic
i never wanna hear the word classic again
lol real
these fools throwing around the word classic just like that
@@ripper.1354man fr…saying everything damn classic…
These's no way were actually claiming FYEO was as impactful as Monster. Monster defined a whole trap era to come and is definitely worth considering a classic.
Also melt my eyes - its a good album but its weaker than Denzel's previous two. Especially in terms of production
NFR X Yuno Miles would be insane 😂😂
ant looking as fine as usual
The last classic to come out is definetly the forever story...
Agreed 🙌
That was a classic
Ive tried SO HARD to enjoy that album like everyone else but its SOO overrated IMO, Its still a great album, But there are plenty of tracks in the second half that are kinda stale & basic. I think SIMBI deserves the status that TFS has tbh, Rapping is on par, But it nails its concept better and production is much more lush and epic, I think SIMBI, LP! & Manger On McNichols are the best albums to come out in the 20's decade thus far tbh
@@butterschunkmcdonalds5333 agree with you on SIMBI. Incredible work by Little simz. TFS is flawless in my opinon, no skips at all.
last RAP music Classic. I would also say God Dont make mistakes is also in contender for the better album and Classic.
another hot take: a classic album doesn't need to reach the masses upon it release to make an impact. As long as the hip hop community is aware and see the vision, it made its impact. Take Madvillainy for example, it didn't reach the masses but the community took in in high regard, and overtime future hip hop fans got caught up, and we're taking in high regard as well.
I agree with this completely, but madvillainy needed time to become discovered and gain momentum enough to be considered a classic. If you were listening to madvillainy right when it dropped and you called it classic, you would be wrong. even though you had good foresight that it eventually would become one lol
Bro Section 80. classic too from the impact it had with rappers like JID and almost to none skips
I mean honestly Morale might be regarded as classic eventually and I think I probably enjoy it more than damn.
No skips. On an album that has Tammy’s Song, No Make Up and Chapter 6/10. Come on.
They got me on that Yuno Miles take. I actually went to look for his music, excited by the thought of discovering something fresh and fire. OMG was i in for a surprise 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Greatest rapper to ever live what can I say 👑
y’all should do more content related to classic albums i love this
Saying tie my hands is a bad song on the Carter 3 is crazy 😂
1:26 Section. 80 is a classic too
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We throwing around the word “classic” WAYYY too much
Astroworld is the last classic album because Igor came out in May of 2019 so technically it does not pass the 5 year rule. But in one month it will be. And in December PEMFBAS will become a classic as well. (I follow the five year rule religiously)
Tie my hands off the Carter III to me is a beautiful song it’s sad that so many don’t like Wayne on those slower softer cuts
3:04 I loved the analogy
You two should listen to Nate off of the search. One of the best song concepts I’ve ever heard and NF does such a great job making the listener feel like his younger self. I’d definitely call Nate a perfect song and honestly one of the best songs I’ve ever heard
underground classics like a piece of strange by cunninlynguists, the cold vein by cannibal ox, stress: the extinction agenda by organized konfusion, below the heavens by blu and exile, and more are miles beyond albums like get rich or die trying, tha carter iii, the eminem show, etc.
I feel like that's almost a given; to have a massive album on that mainstream level you pretty much have to compromise SOME of your artistic vision, whereas, if you're more underground there are less of those pressures. The advantage mainstream artists have is that they will be able to make a bigger impact, making it feel more classic as it's almost a defining moment that everyone can remember
for sure but i definitely respect those art first smaller artist more than the drakes and lil babys yk?
piece of strange and below the heavens holy W
Sure get rich or die trying but the Carter iii is pretty good. And Kendrick and Kanye have proven truly brilliant hip hop can be done with enormous mass appeal in the modern era (rip to kanye making good music though)
The biggest hot take of the video was them saying Melt My Eyes and Sometimes I Might Be An Introvert wont be classics
Yeah imagine thinking anything J Cole has ever done is better than sometimes I might be introvert or melt my eyes
@@PasteurizedLettuce its not about better but about what had the bigger impact and influence on the culture. For eg, ds2 isnt a perfect albums by any means to me but its a classic cuz of how it changed the trap scene forever. masterpieces and perfect albums dont have to be classics(simbi) whereas mediocre projects can be considered classics(whole lotta red)
@@vaibhav9248 I will die on the hill of whole lotta red not being mediocre but I get what you’re angling at
@@vaibhav9248 I think whole lotta red is going to be viewed in retrospect like punk classics
@@PasteurizedLettuce I enjoyed wlr but personally it pales in comparison to die lit and self titled. whatever the case is, wlr is definitely his most classic work, it has changed the game way too much if you look at the rage rap scene
Monster deserves the classic status way more than 4YourEyezOnly
Exactly. I don’t know how this was even an argument. Monster dropped when Future was still on his come up and that tape basically cemented where Future would go from there. It’s easily one of the most important projects for the emerging late-trap sound that would become the most prominent sound in hip hop for the next like half a decade at least if not further.
4YEO came after Cole had already released FHD, and that was widely considered as “his classic”, not to mention 4YEO has “Folding Clothes” on it which consistently gets dunked on for being boring. Until this video, I’ve never heard anyone say that 4YEO is a classic.
Tl;dr: Monster - yes, 4YEO - no
It just depends on who your a fan of tbh
Neither deserve it, classic needs to be a very exclusive term
Love u NFR podcast ur the goat these vids make my day
I think it's become really popular to call Get Rich Or Die Tryin' overrated because Fantano calls it overrated alot.
It has ALWAYS been overrated Fantano just so happens to be right about this. (Unlike his acid rap take)
i mean most people have thought this long before fantano said it, maybe if you guys stop saying its one of the best rap albums ever (or even of the 2000's for that matter) and comparing it to illmatic, 36 chambers, madvillainy etc... and just see it for the good but not great album it is then we wouldn't have to call it overrated.
3:39 the double entendre goes hard 🔥🔥
13:50 did Ant refer to What a Time to Be Alive as a classic, after not mentioning it for either Future or Drake in the earlier discussion? (00:40)
I feel like this is an example of the term being thrown around too easily!
I love when they completely agree on a take and still find ways to argue 😭
2:09 I’ve never heard a single soul say that 4YEO is one of the best concept/storytelling hip hop albums. I also don’t see the “impact” it had on music. And that’s Cole’s best album imo
💯💯💯💯💯💯 never heard that in my life
Future has 3 classics: ds2, monster, 56 nights easily. U guys are tripping, Monster is 100x more influential than 4YEO ever was it is not about the better album.
Future has one classic and it’s DS2, because a classic is something that is agreed upon by the majority of people, and everyone picks a different album other than DS2.
DS2. Monster . 56 Nights, Hndrxx. All no brainers
Tbh I’d argue all 3 tapes from his run in 15 you can call classics
Y’all giving NF the light of day is nice to see. His music impacts a lot of people including myself
So Far Gone was also a Drake classic.
They don’t want to give The Boy his credit cause they huge kdot Stans and this channel full of them but Drake has atleast 5 minimum and I’m being nice.
So Far Gone
TAKE CARE
NWTS
IYRTITL
Views
All certified classics
Thank me later. WATTBA, and Scorpion
@@fas0288glazing
Self titled is a classic and 56 nights and purple reign are teetering on classics in my opinion. The latter two are so influential to sounds in ways you might not pick up on in a revisionist sense but at the time it opened new avenues for a multitude of up and coming rappers, they all have unique sonic pallettes
This decade has given us 3 classics thus far: SIMBI by Little Simz, TFS by J.I.D and Alfredo by The Alchemist & Freddie Gibbs
There are a few in contention like Pray for Paris, HWH8, Limbo, MMESYF, KD I II III and Magic 1, Cheat Codes, MM&TBS, Heroes and Villains and CMIYGL
You got the forever story in here but not the off season?
KDII and KDIII should be up there, with Blue Lips and The Off-Season being in heavy contention
Really feel like people overrate SIMBI a lot compared to other UK rap albums
@@colej6108 Lmao. The Off Season ain't even as half as good as TFS. It's a good mixtape, like top 3 Cole project but c'mon now...
@@fantasythinkerfan Psychodrama and Conflict of Interests are the only albums of the last 5 years that come close in the UK rap scene
Knife talk the biggest song on clb
It's fair trade 🤦🏻♂️
CLB was the first hip hop album i heard so it has a special place in my heart
But c'mon
Its not a classic
It aint even better than Donda
Donda is better in every possible way musically
It’s way better then donda u trippin
There’s no bad songs on clb
@@yisroelkonovitchway 2 sexy is unlistenable imo
@@jmfreak3139 way 2 sexy although a hit isn’t nearly the top song
I appreciate this super honest take. I liked donda better tbh but even still I don’t play that album much😂
i like CLB more then For All The Dogs. I think that album has a bunch of great songs. but idk about classic
They’re both fire albums. Great music on both
Cole, drake and future have 0 classics. Kendrick has 2/3 . Y'all overuse the 'classic' status
0????? alright bud
People do overuse the classic status but cmon be serious. Take care and nothing was the same are easily classics, so is born sinner and fhd. Fhd literally went platinum with no features and I’m not a big future listener but most consider ds2 and monster classics. Don’t be a kdot Stan bruh lol.
15:45 no way he told him to Dre & drive😂😂
4 Your Eyez Only has the song everyone calls Cole sleepy for, Folding Clothes (which I like btw)
Folding Clothes is amazing and anyone who tells you otherwise is cringe
2:55 lost it at that moment 😂❓
lmao, ain’t no arguing when it comes to if monster is a classic. 90% of this gen wouldn’t exist without it. enough said.
9:24
Troublez cold blooded soul version is awesome. I think that is what the song was supposed to be. I do like the og version too though.
House of Balloons; The Weeknd
AAnd THEE Crown Jewel;
Bone Thugz n Harmony, 1999
“Wake up wake up wake up, it’s the first of the month “
While I agree that the first Future take is dumb, it kinda makes me sad that no one considers my favourite project of his (Evol) a classic
Always feels like I’m chillin with my nerdy friends who are actually the coolest. Also, I suspect tism.
I think future and Hendrix are classics ngl
SECTION 80 IS FORERVER UNDERRATED
Relapse deserves to be a classic
I don’t understand how it’s not. It takes the zaniness of previous Eminem albums that leaned hard into the whole Slim Shady persona and cranked it up to 100 then ripped off the knob. In terms of the wackiness + depravity of Slim Shady, it’s the quintessential Eminem album.
Hey gentlemen, I love your tier list videos! I think you should do a tier list of all the MF Doom collaboration albums.
I know Madvilliany gets all the love, but I prefer DangerDoom’s album, The Mouse and the Mask!!
Future being ahead of j cole is such a standard take 😭 disagreeing with that is crazy
Tie My Hands is dope. Wth Are u Guys on?
4 Your Eyes Only is easily a classic
best of cole tbh
Big time.
No it aint
Nope
You guys are so lenient with “Classics”
A classic is when even those who aren’t a huge fan of the artist unanimously call it a classic. Future has DS2, cole has fhd, drake has thank me later. Thats it for those guys. Kendrick only has gkmc and tpab, so he still wins but i dont think the dust has even settled on damn yet. yall giving out classics too easy to me but hey thats me lol
Not every very good to amazing album is a classic. Look back at the other decades, there’s a reason there’s not dozens of CLASSICS to go back to over the years, only a handful. A lot of really great albums fade over time even after great immediate impact or impact over a span of a few years
Bruh imo at least 2-3 years gotta go by for you to even consider an album classic and it can’t have more than 2 skips(illmatic, gkmc, fhd, graduation, etc). I feel like a lot of people in these comments got loose ass standards for a classic album. Clb has more than 3 skips, that automatically disqualifies it for a classic album imo. Ima drake and j cole fan but to say clb is classic and you don’t even mention the off season is pretty wild. If clb is somehow a classic the off season easily is.
Classic and masterpiece are not the same
@@SweaterSwagg bruh… tpab is a classic and a masterpiece. Sure there a lil different… but an album doesn’t have to be a pure masterpiece to be a classic. What’s your point of saying this? It seems like you tryna nitpick lol.
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In my opinion J Cole only has one classic. Friday Night Lights in handicapped by not being on streaming, it’s gone unheard by even a good amount of Cole fans. I also don’t consider 4yeo a classic album. I think it’s good but its not up there with a pablo and 4:44. I think it’s better for its concept than it’s actual music. If 4yeo is a classic then so is Mr Morale.
Also Future has multiple classics. Ds2 and Monster are trap albums. HNDRXX and Future are part of his legendary 2017 run and definitely classics to most future fans.
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Late to this video but Future has 3 classics imo. DS2, monster, 56 nights
If you’re a future fan, yes, but I mean, would anyone like me calling DONDA a classic just because I like Kanye? Gotta look at the quality, and future never matched DS2 elsewhere
I liked the chocolate analogy 😂
I might agree that future will pass Drake in classics in the future but j Cole and Kenny prolly not
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Future has 3 classics: DS2, Monster, & 56 nights
I understand what y'all trying to say, But I think there are albums that are 100% classics for the lanes they're in that aren't unanimously celebrated in terms of popularity. XXX & Atrocity Exhibition by Danny Brown or Pinata & Bandana by Freddie Gibbs for example I'd absolutely consider classics, Even if they aren't as widely known by the masses. I think there are several instances of this honestly, 1999 by Joey Badass is an underground classic, IMO the greatest mixtape of all time but the majority of people haven't heard of it. Veteran by JPEGMAFIA is an experimental classic, Probably the most unique, Off the wall album I've heard and the majority of people haven't heard of it. Also, I know people love to clown on Logic but projects like Undeniable, WTF or Under Pressure I honestly believe people would be more willing to consider a classic if his career didn't go in the direction it did, People forget just how highly regarded Logic was at one point before he dropped 1800 and slowly became the internets punching bag, Now people are even too afraid to give Logic any praise whatsoever cause they know they'll likely get made fun of, But his YS/UP days were legit.
Thank you. This should be printed out and framed in the NFR studio
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Forest hills drive is a classic it was the first album to go platinum no features and it elevated to a top 10 status
Magnum opus does NOT mean flawless Lu, it just means a piece of art regarded as the most important work of art for an artist. For many, many people they see C III as that for Wayne.
Thanks for including my take, but how could yall say that Nav doesn’t have classics 😭
utterly blasphemous
NAV has at least 2 classics imo. “NAV” and “Perfect Timing”
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Because Nav doesn’t have any good albums when considered as cohesive projects. Gotta first be a good album to be a classic. That’s like requirement #0 on the criteria list for classic status.
Although CLB isn’t a classic, it’s still very underrated. I’d give it a 7/10 fs. And the album cover has grown on me too ngl
As a drake fan , that album is bad. 2/10
@@hintssabbatnah bruh it’s has gems it’s not his best work but it’s good
@@EazyRocko bruh it’s not a good album idk why y’all tryna convince people that it has “gems” y’all gotta up yall standards in albums lol
@@colej6108 there people who think your favorite album is ass
@@EazyRocko sure that can be true but that’s not the point of my comment lmao. Most people didn’t like the album first listen and a lot of people still don’t like it😂it’s just weird to me, y’all tryna make people like clb lol
No views in 14 second y’all fell off
no way you’re doing the dabo thing
@@KAKI.mtl.2 lol I had too
This trend is so corny ngl
@@ItsTaken__facts and the trend when people drop Nightcrawler lyrics on videos that have nothing to do with it.
Just not funny
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The Forever Story is 100% gonna be a classic
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A classic has to be a 10 and influential imo, something can be revolutionary and not be a classic
We dont trust you is an easy future classic and imo monster, ds2, 56 nights, future and high off life are all classics
Swap out WIZRD for High Off Life and I would agree with you
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Great to see lou thinks Baby on baby is a certified classic. Keep up the takes!
Ik it doesn't fit the vibe of the album, but I honestly couldn't see Melt My Eyes without Troubles. I loved seeing T-Pain after he was gone for so long, the songs a vibe and I don't skip a single track off of Melt My Eyes. I would consider it a classic, definitely.
Man, I really wish WTT was a morden classic, I think it would be at the top with TPAB, GKMC and MBDTF
Also I wanted to take a hot take about Logic's The Incredible True Story (also sorry I couldn't type the acronym for the title for it because it would be extremely inappropriate especially with the RUclips guidelines, so I gotta keep it kid friendly for RUclips), but um now going back with what I'm commenting about, I believe it is a underrated and overlooked of a modren classic 🤔, and hear me out because it's his most focus and cohesive album I've ever heard and albums I've heard, the songs blend together as a blender very well in it's entirely, plus there are no skips for me on it (not a single one, I could easy play it to front to back), it is important when it first came out (I also wanted to note the first scene in the intro about how important it was going to be for Logic's career), it's also important because it is the first LP he went commercial, then he took off to be little more recognizable (after the release of The Incredible True Story), yes, before Everybody was the one, yes, there wasn't really no radio singles on it, but Like Woah played was everywhere on the NBA commercial, I believe it to be the 2016 one (don't quote me on that), but anyways, he even have the legendary voice actor who played Spike off of Cowboy Bebop on this LP playing a brand new character for crying out loud, imo it's still a classic you could disagree all u want, but don't poke fun of me, pls in the comment selection, keep it nice, you can't forget it's just my opinion 😁
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sftsaftm will 110% be a classic, and faith
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Only album from Cole that can arguably be considered a classic is 2014 Forest Hills Dr. (I personally wouldn’t consider it one. But most will.)
no way lu didn't consider 4yeo as a classic
Because it’s not. Is it a good Cole album? Absolutely? Is it “one of the greatest concept albums the hip hop community has ever seen”? No, no it’s not.
@@loganleatherman7647 its definitely one of the greatest concept albums in THIS generation. atleast for 2010's decades, so it should be considered a classic
Melt my eyez is a 10/10
Hi nfr im the 2001 take guy and I would like to explain why I wrote that comment. I recently decided to listen to 2001 all the way throughout a few weeks ago (im only 15 and new to hiphop so i've never listened to it) and my expectactions were high as hell,not only cause people talk so well about it but also because I absolutely LOVE some of its biggest hits like still dre and forgot about dre(those are like my favourite songs ever lmao) and I dont know why but that was prolly THE most disappointing listen ive had since I started listening to hiphop,and thats because my expectations were so high I was expecting every track to be a forgot about dre or a xxplosive,but I ended up not getting CLOSE to like it as much as I wanted to.I just got frustrated by how i wouldnt find a song id love as much as a still dre, so every other song i came across on the album felt like a skip to me(hope that makes sense lol).Ima have to listen to it again whit a open mind to be able to understand the hipe.
this makes sense but just know this kinda stuff always changes with time. i used to only like the hits off of MM FOOD by MF DOOM but now when i revisit it i appreciate the deep cuts wayyyyyy more. 2001 is an album like that. you’ll come to appreciate the deeper cuts with time
For all the kids that saying get rich or die trying is 7/10 album, if you go ask each rapper in the genre he will agree that is top top 6 albums of all time!
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Hot take: The Search by NF is a great album atleast in my books its a little less known and its quite recent but its amazing
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@@connorpeck4851 fair 🤝
Future has 3 classics. Drake has 3 classics. Kendrick has 4 classics. Cole has 1 classic
what is kendrick’s 4th?
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The Kdot with 4 classic is cap
Future with 3 is cap
Future has 3, drake has 3, Kendrick has 3, Cole has 2
Future has 2 imo (DS2 & Monster)
So cool of you guys to start out with a Shawn Cee take
You guys should react to hot takes about Chicago Rappers
how tf is monster a classic but 4yeo and 2014 isnt lmao
Because Monster was way, way more important to the emerging hip hop sound at the time than any Cole album has ever been. The Cole albums were great, don’t get me wrong, but they weren’t anywhere near as important for hip hop as a whole as Monster was. Future basically ushered in the neo-trap sound of the mid-2010s with Monster, 56 Nights, and DS2.
because substance and depth doesnt always equal great and shallowness or whats percieved as just "fun" doesnt always equal bad. thats something you and alot of j cole fans are yet to get because i can tell you think 4 your eyes only is so much better then monster because its so much deeper when future isnt trying to attempt depth whatsoever, monster is the more consistent project imo and it had a bigger impact on hip hop then 4 your eyes only did.
The last classic album is definitely the forever story. Give it some time.