@@thedon0516same here bro I never heard ANYONE say this. I like the album too, probably my favorite from Cole, but I never heard somebody saying this. Most people call the album boring
another hot take: a classic album doesn't need to reach the masses upon it release to make an impact. As long as the hip hop community is aware and see the vision, it made its impact. Take Madvillainy for example, it didn't reach the masses but the community took in in high regard, and overtime future hip hop fans got caught up, and we're taking in high regard as well.
I agree with this completely, but madvillainy needed time to become discovered and gain momentum enough to be considered a classic. If you were listening to madvillainy right when it dropped and you called it classic, you would be wrong. even though you had good foresight that it eventually would become one lol
These's no way were actually claiming FYEO was as impactful as Monster. Monster defined a whole trap era to come and is definitely worth considering a classic. Also melt my eyes - its a good album but its weaker than Denzel's previous two. Especially in terms of production
MMESYF is a classic imo. I don’t think an album really needs super complex lyrics to hit that mark, there’s beauty and quality in some of the straight forward nature of it imo, but how he tells these stories is beautiful. Also troubles is an incredible song.
@@nbabackcourtmedia I get that, but there's a reason why it's called classic, if not, any great project would be a classic even if it came out yesterday
I feel like it will age as a cult classic. It might never be at the forefront of hip hop classics, but the people who know about it will swear by it for good reason
@@1MinuteVibe I mean I like to give it at least a year most of the time, but nothing crazy. Just generally not a fan of the time restriction preventing someone from saying an album is a classic
Ive tried SO HARD to enjoy that album like everyone else but its SOO overrated IMO, Its still a great album, But there are plenty of tracks in the second half that are kinda stale & basic. I think SIMBI deserves the status that TFS has tbh, Rapping is on par, But it nails its concept better and production is much more lush and epic, I think SIMBI, LP! & Manger On McNichols are the best albums to come out in the 20's decade thus far tbh
They got me on that Yuno Miles take. I actually went to look for his music, excited by the thought of discovering something fresh and fire. OMG was i in for a surprise 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
2:09 I’ve never heard a single soul say that 4YEO is one of the best concept/storytelling hip hop albums. I also don’t see the “impact” it had on music. And that’s Cole’s best album imo
underground classics like a piece of strange by cunninlynguists, the cold vein by cannibal ox, stress: the extinction agenda by organized konfusion, below the heavens by blu and exile, and more are miles beyond albums like get rich or die trying, tha carter iii, the eminem show, etc.
I feel like that's almost a given; to have a massive album on that mainstream level you pretty much have to compromise SOME of your artistic vision, whereas, if you're more underground there are less of those pressures. The advantage mainstream artists have is that they will be able to make a bigger impact, making it feel more classic as it's almost a defining moment that everyone can remember
Sure get rich or die trying but the Carter iii is pretty good. And Kendrick and Kanye have proven truly brilliant hip hop can be done with enormous mass appeal in the modern era (rip to kanye making good music though)
Astroworld is the last classic album because Igor came out in May of 2019 so technically it does not pass the 5 year rule. But in one month it will be. And in December PEMFBAS will become a classic as well. (I follow the five year rule religiously)
You two should listen to Nate off of the search. One of the best song concepts I’ve ever heard and NF does such a great job making the listener feel like his younger self. I’d definitely call Nate a perfect song and honestly one of the best songs I’ve ever heard
i mean most people have thought this long before fantano said it, maybe if you guys stop saying its one of the best rap albums ever (or even of the 2000's for that matter) and comparing it to illmatic, 36 chambers, madvillainy etc... and just see it for the good but not great album it is then we wouldn't have to call it overrated.
Exactly. I don’t know how this was even an argument. Monster dropped when Future was still on his come up and that tape basically cemented where Future would go from there. It’s easily one of the most important projects for the emerging late-trap sound that would become the most prominent sound in hip hop for the next like half a decade at least if not further. 4YEO came after Cole had already released FHD, and that was widely considered as “his classic”, not to mention 4YEO has “Folding Clothes” on it which consistently gets dunked on for being boring. Until this video, I’ve never heard anyone say that 4YEO is a classic. Tl;dr: Monster - yes, 4YEO - no
13:50 did Ant refer to What a Time to Be Alive as a classic, after not mentioning it for either Future or Drake in the earlier discussion? (00:40) I feel like this is an example of the term being thrown around too easily!
@@PasteurizedLettuce its not about better but about what had the bigger impact and influence on the culture. For eg, ds2 isnt a perfect albums by any means to me but its a classic cuz of how it changed the trap scene forever. masterpieces and perfect albums dont have to be classics(simbi) whereas mediocre projects can be considered classics(whole lotta red)
@@PasteurizedLettuce I enjoyed wlr but personally it pales in comparison to die lit and self titled. whatever the case is, wlr is definitely his most classic work, it has changed the game way too much if you look at the rage rap scene
I’ve been an Nf fan for a while now. I’ve seen him at concert and watched his growth musically over the years and I have to say it’s very impressive. Going back to his early albums of mansion and therapy session, you will get tracks that really show where he came from including mansion, therapy session, all I have, how could you leave us, notepad, and many more. But as much as I do like some of those songs there are def some skips on those albums including turn the music up, face it, and motivated. Looking at his biggest albums in perception and the search, these albums are low-key bangers. Off both albums combined there is 2-4 skips for me. These albums have some of the most deep written lyrics of emotion that hip hop has ever seen. Then going into his two new projects, he has gone into an approach of showing his capability in the studio and showing what he can truly do with his pen. You have songs like that’s a joke, trust FT tech nine, lost FT hopsin, paid my dues, careful FT cordae, and other tracks with amazing beat switches like suffice and layers. NF is interesting because although he puts up numbers, he doesn’t have the impact of other rappers due to him not cussing, and getting views from one of the most loyal fan bases in hip hop. NF has always been that guy who is behind the curtains a bit. I’d suggest listening to outcast where he talks about being the standout from the rest of rap. But through all of this, I would truly suggest giving at least perception and the search a full album listen. I can absolutely understand that he may not be for everybody which is totally fine, but do know that when it comes to the pen, I truly believe he’s one of the best in the game. Can’t wait for the next drop.
As amazing as Kendrick’s albums are, I feel like they don’t have the entire community around them. Neither Section 80 nor Mr. Morale are considered classics amongst the general population. Untitled Unmastered and Overly Dedicated are even further from that title. IMO, Kendrick’s got 5 classics, maybe 6 if GNX ages as well as his older work.
Drake barely has 1 classic and 2 is pushing it. When you think of the greatest all time classic albums in hip-hop, the only Drake album that is anywhere considered close to any of the top 20 is MAYBE Take Care
Self titled is a classic and 56 nights and purple reign are teetering on classics in my opinion. The latter two are so influential to sounds in ways you might not pick up on in a revisionist sense but at the time it opened new avenues for a multitude of up and coming rappers, they all have unique sonic pallettes
They don’t want to give The Boy his credit cause they huge kdot Stans and this channel full of them but Drake has atleast 5 minimum and I’m being nice. So Far Gone TAKE CARE NWTS IYRTITL Views All certified classics Thank me later. WATTBA, and Scorpion
Future has 3 classics: ds2, monster, 56 nights easily. U guys are tripping, Monster is 100x more influential than 4YEO ever was it is not about the better album.
Future has one classic and it’s DS2, because a classic is something that is agreed upon by the majority of people, and everyone picks a different album other than DS2.
A classic is when even those who aren’t a huge fan of the artist unanimously call it a classic. Future has DS2, cole has fhd, drake has thank me later. Thats it for those guys. Kendrick only has gkmc and tpab, so he still wins but i dont think the dust has even settled on damn yet. yall giving out classics too easy to me but hey thats me lol
Not every very good to amazing album is a classic. Look back at the other decades, there’s a reason there’s not dozens of CLASSICS to go back to over the years, only a handful. A lot of really great albums fade over time even after great immediate impact or impact over a span of a few years
This decade has given us 3 classics thus far: SIMBI by Little Simz, TFS by J.I.D and Alfredo by The Alchemist & Freddie Gibbs There are a few in contention like Pray for Paris, HWH8, Limbo, MMESYF, KD I II III and Magic 1, Cheat Codes, MM&TBS, Heroes and Villains and CMIYGL
Hey gentlemen, I love your tier list videos! I think you should do a tier list of all the MF Doom collaboration albums. I know Madvilliany gets all the love, but I prefer DangerDoom’s album, The Mouse and the Mask!!
I don’t understand how it’s not. It takes the zaniness of previous Eminem albums that leaned hard into the whole Slim Shady persona and cranked it up to 100 then ripped off the knob. In terms of the wackiness + depravity of Slim Shady, it’s the quintessential Eminem album.
If you count the skits, then I agree about 2001. F* you is mid, bar one, light speed, pause 4 porno are skips. If it’s your favorite rap album ever, then of course you would disagree. Plus, the lyrics on most of the album are pretty rough
Magnum opus does NOT mean flawless Lu, it just means a piece of art regarded as the most important work of art for an artist. For many, many people they see C III as that for Wayne.
Bruh imo at least 2-3 years gotta go by for you to even consider an album classic and it can’t have more than 2 skips(illmatic, gkmc, fhd, graduation, etc). I feel like a lot of people in these comments got loose ass standards for a classic album. Clb has more than 3 skips, that automatically disqualifies it for a classic album imo. Ima drake and j cole fan but to say clb is classic and you don’t even mention the off season is pretty wild. If clb is somehow a classic the off season easily is.
@@SweaterSwagg bruh… tpab is a classic and a masterpiece. Sure there a lil different… but an album doesn’t have to be a pure masterpiece to be a classic. What’s your point of saying this? It seems like you tryna nitpick lol.
If you’re a future fan, yes, but I mean, would anyone like me calling DONDA a classic just because I like Kanye? Gotta look at the quality, and future never matched DS2 elsewhere
Hi nfr im the 2001 take guy and I would like to explain why I wrote that comment. I recently decided to listen to 2001 all the way throughout a few weeks ago (im only 15 and new to hiphop so i've never listened to it) and my expectactions were high as hell,not only cause people talk so well about it but also because I absolutely LOVE some of its biggest hits like still dre and forgot about dre(those are like my favourite songs ever lmao) and I dont know why but that was prolly THE most disappointing listen ive had since I started listening to hiphop,and thats because my expectations were so high I was expecting every track to be a forgot about dre or a xxplosive,but I ended up not getting CLOSE to like it as much as I wanted to.I just got frustrated by how i wouldnt find a song id love as much as a still dre, so every other song i came across on the album felt like a skip to me(hope that makes sense lol).Ima have to listen to it again whit a open mind to be able to understand the hipe.
this makes sense but just know this kinda stuff always changes with time. i used to only like the hits off of MM FOOD by MF DOOM but now when i revisit it i appreciate the deep cuts wayyyyyy more. 2001 is an album like that. you’ll come to appreciate the deeper cuts with time
I understand what y'all trying to say, But I think there are albums that are 100% classics for the lanes they're in that aren't unanimously celebrated in terms of popularity. XXX & Atrocity Exhibition by Danny Brown or Pinata & Bandana by Freddie Gibbs for example I'd absolutely consider classics, Even if they aren't as widely known by the masses. I think there are several instances of this honestly, 1999 by Joey Badass is an underground classic, IMO the greatest mixtape of all time but the majority of people haven't heard of it. Veteran by JPEGMAFIA is an experimental classic, Probably the most unique, Off the wall album I've heard and the majority of people haven't heard of it. Also, I know people love to clown on Logic but projects like Undeniable, WTF or Under Pressure I honestly believe people would be more willing to consider a classic if his career didn't go in the direction it did, People forget just how highly regarded Logic was at one point before he dropped 1800 and slowly became the internets punching bag, Now people are even too afraid to give Logic any praise whatsoever cause they know they'll likely get made fun of, But his YS/UP days were legit.
In my opinion J Cole only has one classic. Friday Night Lights in handicapped by not being on streaming, it’s gone unheard by even a good amount of Cole fans. I also don’t consider 4yeo a classic album. I think it’s good but its not up there with a pablo and 4:44. I think it’s better for its concept than it’s actual music. If 4yeo is a classic then so is Mr Morale. Also Future has multiple classics. Ds2 and Monster are trap albums. HNDRXX and Future are part of his legendary 2017 run and definitely classics to most future fans.
I think that the general consensus is that rap and hip hop are completely different things at this point. Hip hop refers to the more black style of rap, while "rap" is more broad nowadays. I love NF, and the search is one of my favorite albums of all time, but I can also understand that it will never be considered a "classic album" in the wider scope of Hip Hop. Most hip hop fans (and when I say this I mean generally and not all), don't really care for the style of rap that NF performs in. And I get it.
@davidtrnecek9318 I agree. Technically, those are the definitions of the words in this context respectively. It's just the way everyone likes to give words "their own definition"
Ik it doesn't fit the vibe of the album, but I honestly couldn't see Melt My Eyes without Troubles. I loved seeing T-Pain after he was gone for so long, the songs a vibe and I don't skip a single track off of Melt My Eyes. I would consider it a classic, definitely.
Man, I really wish WTT was a morden classic, I think it would be at the top with TPAB, GKMC and MBDTF Also I wanted to take a hot take about Logic's The Incredible True Story (also sorry I couldn't type the acronym for the title for it because it would be extremely inappropriate especially with the RUclips guidelines, so I gotta keep it kid friendly for RUclips), but um now going back with what I'm commenting about, I believe it is a underrated and overlooked of a modren classic 🤔, and hear me out because it's his most focus and cohesive album I've ever heard and albums I've heard, the songs blend together as a blender very well in it's entirely, plus there are no skips for me on it (not a single one, I could easy play it to front to back), it is important when it first came out (I also wanted to note the first scene in the intro about how important it was going to be for Logic's career), it's also important because it is the first LP he went commercial, then he took off to be little more recognizable (after the release of The Incredible True Story), yes, before Everybody was the one, yes, there wasn't really no radio singles on it, but Like Woah played was everywhere on the NBA commercial, I believe it to be the 2016 one (don't quote me on that), but anyways, he even have the legendary voice actor who played Spike off of Cowboy Bebop on this LP playing a brand new character for crying out loud, imo it's still a classic you could disagree all u want, but don't poke fun of me, pls in the comment selection, keep it nice, you can't forget it's just my opinion 😁
People do overuse the classic status but cmon be serious. Take care and nothing was the same are easily classics, so is born sinner and fhd. Fhd literally went platinum with no features and I’m not a big future listener but most consider ds2 and monster classics. Don’t be a kdot Stan bruh lol.
@@randomwhitedude9227 that’s your opinion It has no misses is what I’m saying Most people don’t listen to any album cover to cover Maybe relapse that’s it
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I love the way that they talk about yuno in a serious tone 😭
why wouldn’t they
Yuno is smoking your top 5 😮💨
Yh it’s so funny
@@kylejohnson2977Nobody smoking Joeyy
@@kylejohnson2977tonight
Thank god people finally understand how good Yuno Miles is
He should at least be in everyone’s top 3
@@qaqtix6700alongside ice jj fish
@@qaqtix6700hes top 1 overall anyone who says anything else is automatically incorrect
jokes old now
Old and overused joke
we need more free smoke episodes, love the friendly/unfriendly conversations haha and I also love the hot pepper/chip videos
For real, now we need a section 80 versus Kod, JCOLE!!😂
@@Aquezamusic Nav perfect timing vs Madvillainy for best rapper producer collab album
@@Prodbyjah464Yeah it’s obviously Perfect Timing
@@alexisdrouin5701 I know but it's the only one that comes close enough
@@Prodbyjah464the joke flew way over your head
3:10 nah Ant tripping that analogy was great
it was amazing
Ant tripping for real 😭
ant never has good takes
3:11 I liked that analogy 😔
😂😂 i was laughing so hard with yall joking about yuno miles
“Dr Dre studies this production”
joking? Yuno is a lyrical legend up there with Mozart and Beethoven
@@mxderateprod they weren’t even lyricists
@@maytt7he's joking😂
@@maytt7 thats the point
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it’s a good day when nfr uploads
FOR REAL
FYEO is regarded as one of the best concept albums that hip hop has ever seen?!? I’ve never heard that until now
nah frl lol
Fr bro😭 they doing this all the time with Cole, also views being considered as classic is mad garbage take
Nobody has ever said that shit before LOL
That shit is TRASH, they choke on Cole and Drake’s meat all the time
@@thedon0516same here bro I never heard ANYONE say this. I like the album too, probably my favorite from Cole, but I never heard somebody saying this. Most people call the album boring
Loved the chocolate analogy Lu 😅😂
another hot take: a classic album doesn't need to reach the masses upon it release to make an impact. As long as the hip hop community is aware and see the vision, it made its impact. Take Madvillainy for example, it didn't reach the masses but the community took in in high regard, and overtime future hip hop fans got caught up, and we're taking in high regard as well.
I agree with this completely, but madvillainy needed time to become discovered and gain momentum enough to be considered a classic. If you were listening to madvillainy right when it dropped and you called it classic, you would be wrong. even though you had good foresight that it eventually would become one lol
These's no way were actually claiming FYEO was as impactful as Monster. Monster defined a whole trap era to come and is definitely worth considering a classic.
Also melt my eyes - its a good album but its weaker than Denzel's previous two. Especially in terms of production
4yeo is a hundred times better and more impactful than monster lmfao
MMESYF is a classic imo. I don’t think an album really needs super complex lyrics to hit that mark, there’s beauty and quality in some of the straight forward nature of it imo, but how he tells these stories is beautiful. Also troubles is an incredible song.
Amazing album, but too soon to tell if it could be considered classic
@@1MinuteVibe I disagree, I don’t really like putting a time restriction on these things. If the album is that good then that’s just it imo
@@nbabackcourtmedia I get that, but there's a reason why it's called classic, if not, any great project would be a classic even if it came out yesterday
I feel like it will age as a cult classic. It might never be at the forefront of hip hop classics, but the people who know about it will swear by it for good reason
@@1MinuteVibe I mean I like to give it at least a year most of the time, but nothing crazy. Just generally not a fan of the time restriction preventing someone from saying an album is a classic
The last classic to come out is definetly the forever story...
Agreed 🙌
That was a classic
Ive tried SO HARD to enjoy that album like everyone else but its SOO overrated IMO, Its still a great album, But there are plenty of tracks in the second half that are kinda stale & basic. I think SIMBI deserves the status that TFS has tbh, Rapping is on par, But it nails its concept better and production is much more lush and epic, I think SIMBI, LP! & Manger On McNichols are the best albums to come out in the 20's decade thus far tbh
@@butterschunkmcdonalds5333 agree with you on SIMBI. Incredible work by Little simz. TFS is flawless in my opinon, no skips at all.
@@butterschunkmcdonalds5333name the tracks
i never wanna hear the word classic again
lol real
these fools throwing around the word classic just like that
@@ripper.1354man fr…saying everything damn classic…
I low key liked that Dark Chocolate analogy 🍫 Ant trippen. 😤
I don’t understand it
Saying tie my hands is a bad song on the Carter 3 is crazy 😂
They got me on that Yuno Miles take. I actually went to look for his music, excited by the thought of discovering something fresh and fire. OMG was i in for a surprise 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Greatest rapper to ever live what can I say 👑
y’all should do more content related to classic albums i love this
NFR X Yuno Miles would be insane 😂😂
2:09 I’ve never heard a single soul say that 4YEO is one of the best concept/storytelling hip hop albums. I also don’t see the “impact” it had on music. And that’s Cole’s best album imo
💯💯💯💯💯💯 never heard that in my life
I love when they completely agree on a take and still find ways to argue 😭
underground classics like a piece of strange by cunninlynguists, the cold vein by cannibal ox, stress: the extinction agenda by organized konfusion, below the heavens by blu and exile, and more are miles beyond albums like get rich or die trying, tha carter iii, the eminem show, etc.
I feel like that's almost a given; to have a massive album on that mainstream level you pretty much have to compromise SOME of your artistic vision, whereas, if you're more underground there are less of those pressures. The advantage mainstream artists have is that they will be able to make a bigger impact, making it feel more classic as it's almost a defining moment that everyone can remember
for sure but i definitely respect those art first smaller artist more than the drakes and lil babys yk?
piece of strange and below the heavens holy W
Sure get rich or die trying but the Carter iii is pretty good. And Kendrick and Kanye have proven truly brilliant hip hop can be done with enormous mass appeal in the modern era (rip to kanye making good music though)
Astroworld is the last classic album because Igor came out in May of 2019 so technically it does not pass the 5 year rule. But in one month it will be. And in December PEMFBAS will become a classic as well. (I follow the five year rule religiously)
You two should listen to Nate off of the search. One of the best song concepts I’ve ever heard and NF does such a great job making the listener feel like his younger self. I’d definitely call Nate a perfect song and honestly one of the best songs I’ve ever heard
3:39 the double entendre goes hard 🔥🔥
3:04 I loved the analogy
Love u NFR podcast ur the goat these vids make my day
Tie my hands off the Carter III to me is a beautiful song it’s sad that so many don’t like Wayne on those slower softer cuts
I think it's become really popular to call Get Rich Or Die Tryin' overrated because Fantano calls it overrated alot.
It has ALWAYS been overrated Fantano just so happens to be right about this. (Unlike his acid rap take)
i mean most people have thought this long before fantano said it, maybe if you guys stop saying its one of the best rap albums ever (or even of the 2000's for that matter) and comparing it to illmatic, 36 chambers, madvillainy etc... and just see it for the good but not great album it is then we wouldn't have to call it overrated.
1:26 Section. 80 is a classic too
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We throwing around the word “classic” WAYYY too much
Monster deserves the classic status way more than 4YourEyezOnly
Exactly. I don’t know how this was even an argument. Monster dropped when Future was still on his come up and that tape basically cemented where Future would go from there. It’s easily one of the most important projects for the emerging late-trap sound that would become the most prominent sound in hip hop for the next like half a decade at least if not further.
4YEO came after Cole had already released FHD, and that was widely considered as “his classic”, not to mention 4YEO has “Folding Clothes” on it which consistently gets dunked on for being boring. Until this video, I’ve never heard anyone say that 4YEO is a classic.
Tl;dr: Monster - yes, 4YEO - no
It just depends on who your a fan of tbh
Neither deserve it, classic needs to be a very exclusive term
13:50 did Ant refer to What a Time to Be Alive as a classic, after not mentioning it for either Future or Drake in the earlier discussion? (00:40)
I feel like this is an example of the term being thrown around too easily!
The biggest hot take of the video was them saying Melt My Eyes and Sometimes I Might Be An Introvert wont be classics
Yeah imagine thinking anything J Cole has ever done is better than sometimes I might be introvert or melt my eyes
@@PasteurizedLettuce its not about better but about what had the bigger impact and influence on the culture. For eg, ds2 isnt a perfect albums by any means to me but its a classic cuz of how it changed the trap scene forever. masterpieces and perfect albums dont have to be classics(simbi) whereas mediocre projects can be considered classics(whole lotta red)
@@vaibhav9248 I will die on the hill of whole lotta red not being mediocre but I get what you’re angling at
@@vaibhav9248 I think whole lotta red is going to be viewed in retrospect like punk classics
@@PasteurizedLettuce I enjoyed wlr but personally it pales in comparison to die lit and self titled. whatever the case is, wlr is definitely his most classic work, it has changed the game way too much if you look at the rage rap scene
I’ve been an Nf fan for a while now. I’ve seen him at concert and watched his growth musically over the years and I have to say it’s very impressive. Going back to his early albums of mansion and therapy session, you will get tracks that really show where he came from including mansion, therapy session, all I have, how could you leave us, notepad, and many more. But as much as I do like some of those songs there are def some skips on those albums including turn the music up, face it, and motivated. Looking at his biggest albums in perception and the search, these albums are low-key bangers. Off both albums combined there is 2-4 skips for me. These albums have some of the most deep written lyrics of emotion that hip hop has ever seen. Then going into his two new projects, he has gone into an approach of showing his capability in the studio and showing what he can truly do with his pen. You have songs like that’s a joke, trust FT tech nine, lost FT hopsin, paid my dues, careful FT cordae, and other tracks with amazing beat switches like suffice and layers. NF is interesting because although he puts up numbers, he doesn’t have the impact of other rappers due to him not cussing, and getting views from one of the most loyal fan bases in hip hop. NF has always been that guy who is behind the curtains a bit. I’d suggest listening to outcast where he talks about being the standout from the rest of rap. But through all of this, I would truly suggest giving at least perception and the search a full album listen. I can absolutely understand that he may not be for everybody which is totally fine, but do know that when it comes to the pen, I truly believe he’s one of the best in the game. Can’t wait for the next drop.
Saying that Drake has 3 to 4 classics, while Kendrick only has 3 is the hottest take in this entire video.
As amazing as Kendrick’s albums are, I feel like they don’t have the entire community around them. Neither Section 80 nor Mr. Morale are considered classics amongst the general population. Untitled Unmastered and Overly Dedicated are even further from that title. IMO, Kendrick’s got 5 classics, maybe 6 if GNX ages as well as his older work.
@@jraith21 I feel like Mr. Morale is a classic it's definitely better than Views for me but I see why people don't like the album
Drake barely has 1 classic and 2 is pushing it. When you think of the greatest all time classic albums in hip-hop, the only Drake album that is anywhere considered close to any of the top 20 is MAYBE Take Care
@ I can name you 20 albums that are better than anything Drake has ever dropped. Drake has no undisputed classics.
Self titled is a classic and 56 nights and purple reign are teetering on classics in my opinion. The latter two are so influential to sounds in ways you might not pick up on in a revisionist sense but at the time it opened new avenues for a multitude of up and coming rappers, they all have unique sonic pallettes
Bro Section 80. classic too from the impact it had with rappers like JID and almost to none skips
I mean honestly Morale might be regarded as classic eventually and I think I probably enjoy it more than damn.
No skips. On an album that has Tammy’s Song, No Make Up and Chapter 6/10. Come on.
Y’all giving NF the light of day is nice to see. His music impacts a lot of people including myself
So Far Gone was also a Drake classic.
They don’t want to give The Boy his credit cause they huge kdot Stans and this channel full of them but Drake has atleast 5 minimum and I’m being nice.
So Far Gone
TAKE CARE
NWTS
IYRTITL
Views
All certified classics
Thank me later. WATTBA, and Scorpion
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lmao, ain’t no arguing when it comes to if monster is a classic. 90% of this gen wouldn’t exist without it. enough said.
i like CLB more then For All The Dogs. I think that album has a bunch of great songs. but idk about classic
They’re both fire albums. Great music on both
15:45 no way he told him to Dre & drive😂😂
9:24
Troublez cold blooded soul version is awesome. I think that is what the song was supposed to be. I do like the og version too though.
14:14 ant yawning 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Future has 3 classics: ds2, monster, 56 nights easily. U guys are tripping, Monster is 100x more influential than 4YEO ever was it is not about the better album.
Future has one classic and it’s DS2, because a classic is something that is agreed upon by the majority of people, and everyone picks a different album other than DS2.
DS2. Monster . 56 Nights, Hndrxx. All no brainers
Tbh I’d argue all 3 tapes from his run in 15 you can call classics
2:55 lost it at that moment 😂❓
A classic is when even those who aren’t a huge fan of the artist unanimously call it a classic. Future has DS2, cole has fhd, drake has thank me later. Thats it for those guys. Kendrick only has gkmc and tpab, so he still wins but i dont think the dust has even settled on damn yet. yall giving out classics too easy to me but hey thats me lol
Not every very good to amazing album is a classic. Look back at the other decades, there’s a reason there’s not dozens of CLASSICS to go back to over the years, only a handful. A lot of really great albums fade over time even after great immediate impact or impact over a span of a few years
CLB was the first hip hop album i heard so it has a special place in my heart
But c'mon
Its not a classic
It aint even better than Donda
Donda is better in every possible way musically
It’s way better then donda u trippin
There’s no bad songs on clb
@@yisroelkonovitchway 2 sexy is unlistenable imo
@@jmfreak3139 way 2 sexy although a hit isn’t nearly the top song
I appreciate this super honest take. I liked donda better tbh but even still I don’t play that album much😂
Always feels like I’m chillin with my nerdy friends who are actually the coolest. Also, I suspect tism.
This decade has given us 3 classics thus far: SIMBI by Little Simz, TFS by J.I.D and Alfredo by The Alchemist & Freddie Gibbs
There are a few in contention like Pray for Paris, HWH8, Limbo, MMESYF, KD I II III and Magic 1, Cheat Codes, MM&TBS, Heroes and Villains and CMIYGL
You got the forever story in here but not the off season?
KDII and KDIII should be up there, with Blue Lips and The Off-Season being in heavy contention
Really feel like people overrate SIMBI a lot compared to other UK rap albums
@@WINENMUSIC Lmao. The Off Season ain't even as half as good as TFS. It's a good mixtape, like top 3 Cole project but c'mon now...
@@fantasythinkerfan Psychodrama and Conflict of Interests are the only albums of the last 5 years that come close in the UK rap scene
4 Your Eyez Only has the song everyone calls Cole sleepy for, Folding Clothes (which I like btw)
Folding Clothes is amazing and anyone who tells you otherwise is cringe
Knife talk the biggest song on clb
It's fair trade 🤦🏻♂️
Hey gentlemen, I love your tier list videos! I think you should do a tier list of all the MF Doom collaboration albums.
I know Madvilliany gets all the love, but I prefer DangerDoom’s album, The Mouse and the Mask!!
4 Your Eyes Only is easily a classic
best of cole tbh
Big time.
No it aint
Nope
The Forever Story is 100% gonna be a classic
You guys are so lenient with “Classics”
A classic has to be a 10 and influential imo, something can be revolutionary and not be a classic
Relapse deserves to be a classic
I don’t understand how it’s not. It takes the zaniness of previous Eminem albums that leaned hard into the whole Slim Shady persona and cranked it up to 100 then ripped off the knob. In terms of the wackiness + depravity of Slim Shady, it’s the quintessential Eminem album.
Future being ahead of j cole is such a standard take 😭 disagreeing with that is crazy
9:33 yall bugging troubles is fire
If you count the skits, then I agree about 2001. F* you is mid, bar one, light speed, pause 4 porno are skips. If it’s your favorite rap album ever, then of course you would disagree. Plus, the lyrics on most of the album are pretty rough
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I liked the chocolate analogy 😂
NFR the GOATS
House of Balloons; The Weeknd
AAnd THEE Crown Jewel;
Bone Thugz n Harmony, 1999
“Wake up wake up wake up, it’s the first of the month “
Magnum opus does NOT mean flawless Lu, it just means a piece of art regarded as the most important work of art for an artist. For many, many people they see C III as that for Wayne.
Bruh imo at least 2-3 years gotta go by for you to even consider an album classic and it can’t have more than 2 skips(illmatic, gkmc, fhd, graduation, etc). I feel like a lot of people in these comments got loose ass standards for a classic album. Clb has more than 3 skips, that automatically disqualifies it for a classic album imo. Ima drake and j cole fan but to say clb is classic and you don’t even mention the off season is pretty wild. If clb is somehow a classic the off season easily is.
Classic and masterpiece are not the same
@@SweaterSwagg bruh… tpab is a classic and a masterpiece. Sure there a lil different… but an album doesn’t have to be a pure masterpiece to be a classic. What’s your point of saying this? It seems like you tryna nitpick lol.
I think future and Hendrix are classics ngl
Yuno Miles gettin his flowers finally🙏
the chocolate analogy was good
Late to this video but Future has 3 classics imo. DS2, monster, 56 nights
If you’re a future fan, yes, but I mean, would anyone like me calling DONDA a classic just because I like Kanye? Gotta look at the quality, and future never matched DS2 elsewhere
I might agree that future will pass Drake in classics in the future but j Cole and Kenny prolly not
😂😂😂😂 keep hoping clown
Hi nfr im the 2001 take guy and I would like to explain why I wrote that comment. I recently decided to listen to 2001 all the way throughout a few weeks ago (im only 15 and new to hiphop so i've never listened to it) and my expectactions were high as hell,not only cause people talk so well about it but also because I absolutely LOVE some of its biggest hits like still dre and forgot about dre(those are like my favourite songs ever lmao) and I dont know why but that was prolly THE most disappointing listen ive had since I started listening to hiphop,and thats because my expectations were so high I was expecting every track to be a forgot about dre or a xxplosive,but I ended up not getting CLOSE to like it as much as I wanted to.I just got frustrated by how i wouldnt find a song id love as much as a still dre, so every other song i came across on the album felt like a skip to me(hope that makes sense lol).Ima have to listen to it again whit a open mind to be able to understand the hipe.
this makes sense but just know this kinda stuff always changes with time. i used to only like the hits off of MM FOOD by MF DOOM but now when i revisit it i appreciate the deep cuts wayyyyyy more. 2001 is an album like that. you’ll come to appreciate the deeper cuts with time
Great to see lou thinks Baby on baby is a certified classic. Keep up the takes!
Tie my hands as a skip is crazy
I understand what y'all trying to say, But I think there are albums that are 100% classics for the lanes they're in that aren't unanimously celebrated in terms of popularity. XXX & Atrocity Exhibition by Danny Brown or Pinata & Bandana by Freddie Gibbs for example I'd absolutely consider classics, Even if they aren't as widely known by the masses. I think there are several instances of this honestly, 1999 by Joey Badass is an underground classic, IMO the greatest mixtape of all time but the majority of people haven't heard of it. Veteran by JPEGMAFIA is an experimental classic, Probably the most unique, Off the wall album I've heard and the majority of people haven't heard of it. Also, I know people love to clown on Logic but projects like Undeniable, WTF or Under Pressure I honestly believe people would be more willing to consider a classic if his career didn't go in the direction it did, People forget just how highly regarded Logic was at one point before he dropped 1800 and slowly became the internets punching bag, Now people are even too afraid to give Logic any praise whatsoever cause they know they'll likely get made fun of, But his YS/UP days were legit.
Thank you. This should be printed out and framed in the NFR studio
In my opinion J Cole only has one classic. Friday Night Lights in handicapped by not being on streaming, it’s gone unheard by even a good amount of Cole fans. I also don’t consider 4yeo a classic album. I think it’s good but its not up there with a pablo and 4:44. I think it’s better for its concept than it’s actual music. If 4yeo is a classic then so is Mr Morale.
Also Future has multiple classics. Ds2 and Monster are trap albums. HNDRXX and Future are part of his legendary 2017 run and definitely classics to most future fans.
While I agree that the first Future take is dumb, it kinda makes me sad that no one considers my favourite project of his (Evol) a classic
The last classic album is definitely the forever story. Give it some time.
I think that the general consensus is that rap and hip hop are completely different things at this point. Hip hop refers to the more black style of rap, while "rap" is more broad nowadays.
I love NF, and the search is one of my favorite albums of all time, but I can also understand that it will never be considered a "classic album" in the wider scope of Hip Hop.
Most hip hop fans (and when I say this I mean generally and not all), don't really care for the style of rap that NF performs in. And I get it.
Hip hop is a music genre, rap is the technique you say words (like singing) idk how people don't know this smh
@davidtrnecek9318 I agree. Technically, those are the definitions of the words in this context respectively. It's just the way everyone likes to give words "their own definition"
bc it’s christian rap
Ik it doesn't fit the vibe of the album, but I honestly couldn't see Melt My Eyes without Troubles. I loved seeing T-Pain after he was gone for so long, the songs a vibe and I don't skip a single track off of Melt My Eyes. I would consider it a classic, definitely.
Man, I really wish WTT was a morden classic, I think it would be at the top with TPAB, GKMC and MBDTF
Also I wanted to take a hot take about Logic's The Incredible True Story (also sorry I couldn't type the acronym for the title for it because it would be extremely inappropriate especially with the RUclips guidelines, so I gotta keep it kid friendly for RUclips), but um now going back with what I'm commenting about, I believe it is a underrated and overlooked of a modren classic 🤔, and hear me out because it's his most focus and cohesive album I've ever heard and albums I've heard, the songs blend together as a blender very well in it's entirely, plus there are no skips for me on it (not a single one, I could easy play it to front to back), it is important when it first came out (I also wanted to note the first scene in the intro about how important it was going to be for Logic's career), it's also important because it is the first LP he went commercial, then he took off to be little more recognizable (after the release of The Incredible True Story), yes, before Everybody was the one, yes, there wasn't really no radio singles on it, but Like Woah played was everywhere on the NBA commercial, I believe it to be the 2016 one (don't quote me on that), but anyways, he even have the legendary voice actor who played Spike off of Cowboy Bebop on this LP playing a brand new character for crying out loud, imo it's still a classic you could disagree all u want, but don't poke fun of me, pls in the comment selection, keep it nice, you can't forget it's just my opinion 😁
Tie My Hands is dope. Wth Are u Guys on?
Forest hills drive is a classic it was the first album to go platinum no features and it elevated to a top 10 status
Future has 3 classics: DS2, Monster, & 56 nights
Melt my eyez is a 10/10
Nobody should like Sexyy Red
She's just a diet Young Thug mixed with Chief Keef
If Kendrick or Cole had as many bangers as Drake did on CLB, More Life,Care Package, So Far Gone they would be considered classics
NFR never fails to ruin my day 🙌
Cole, drake and future have 0 classics. Kendrick has 2/3 . Y'all overuse the 'classic' status
0????? alright bud
People do overuse the classic status but cmon be serious. Take care and nothing was the same are easily classics, so is born sinner and fhd. Fhd literally went platinum with no features and I’m not a big future listener but most consider ds2 and monster classics. Don’t be a kdot Stan bruh lol.
So cool of you guys to start out with a Shawn Cee take
We dont trust you is an easy future classic and imo monster, ds2, 56 nights, future and high off life are all classics
Swap out WIZRD for High Off Life and I would agree with you
Hot take: this may be heavy recency bias. But as of rn i like we don't trust you more than any future album.
I think it's up there with DS2, FUTURE, & EVOL, & BEASTMODE
Clb is so underrated crazy
It’s a listen album cover to cover
I mean yeah you can listen to it the whole way through but no one should or does
@@randomwhitedude9227 that’s your opinion
It has no misses is what I’m saying
Most people don’t listen to any album cover to cover
Maybe relapse that’s it
AT.LONG.LAST.ASAP is a classic to me
Like this if you want Yuno Miles on the podcast
"the cover is amazing too" bro wym clb got a great cover😭
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