Guys, last year I bought a Deacon 84 based on your presentations and explanations, and I felt extremely satisfied with that.This year I bought a Kore 93, also based on your experience and characterization and I expect similar fun and challenges. Your format is with a distance the best one can get in this market. Thanks for all your efforts!
I’ve skied my stance 84’s in the vail back bowls in 8” of fresh; it wasn’t the best for that obviously, but it still worked out reasonably well. Such a versatile ski!
A word on the Mindbender 85- I picked up a 2021 model for way too little money at a local swap to use as an instructor ski. I figured I’d teach on it and then stash it and ski my “real” skis once lessons were over. I had way more fun on these than I should have. I found their limits and pushed past them repeatedly. They don’t love moderate speeds, much less high speeds when it’s firm, but on moderately soft groomers, they were just a blast to flip from edge to edge. $50 well spent.
I got my buddy who is a very casual skier the minder bender 85 for his Bday, hes had a great time on it. Skied in in every condition up at big sky over a week from pow to hard pack. Great value ski for a beginner-Intermediate
Cool, not every skier needs the tech and precision of the top shelf skis. The middle ground ski, which is where the bulk of the ski population is at has exactly what a growing intermediate skier needs for a safe and fun day on the mountain. I have been on a K2 research binge for the last couple of years, buying 2 models and a pair of mindbender 120 boots. IMO K2 is back from the dead after losing the original red, white, and blue racing DNA and going to the ridiculous world of the Cheeseburger years…..K2 is worth the look today.
I bought Mindbender 85's to my wife and daughter last spring for 99€ (including bindings). They both loved the ski and the price was too ridiculous to pass.
Athletic intermediate / 30 years old / 5’8 (Side note: No budget) Based on the comments and how Jeff and Bob talk about the quality of Stockli skiis, I’m very close to buying a pair - maybe the MONTERO AR 84 or the STORMRIDER 88. I live on the East Coast. I’ve been skiing for 5 years. I’m sure my form isn’t perfect but I can get down blacks without much issue. I’ve really only been using a 94 underfoot Rossignol Black Ops Escaper for the past few years. They’re great skis for cruising but I really want to start carving a little better and I feel that the 94 width is holding me back me from doing that. I also imagine the 94 width isn’t the best size for East Coast hardpack skiing in the first place anyway. The only thing holding me back is the weight of the Stockli skis and maneuverability. Based on the above, would I be better served with the STOCKLI AR or STORMRIDER? Or maybe even something like the Nordica Steadfast? Thanks for all your continued videos! So helpful and fun to watch.
I started the season on a brand new AR in 170cm this week. They are smooth for sure! If you end up going this way, I suggest you experiment with the binding position as the suggested mount point is quite rearward and as an intermediate, you might easily end up in the backseat and it gets easier to get shorter turns with forward point. I have small feets, so I ended up moving the position like 2-3 cm to help engaging the tip. Conditions are super hard packed snow right now, so nothing to help the ski bites. I didn't try the stormrider yet, but I think the montero would probably complement your black ops better for the east coast. I don't find them so heavy, basically the same weight as my forzas I think. Maybe the AX would be more appropriate for maneuverability.
At a demo day last year I paid $20 and immediately jumped on the Stockli Montero AR, knowing there was no chance I'd buy them since I already have Wingman 82 Ti and 86 CTi. "Ski some Stocklis for $20? Deal of the year!" Deal of the year for the ski shop because I couldn't stop thinking about them and 2 days later I went into the shop, credit card in hand. The most amazing ski I've ever been on.
Mirus Cor's; I own ten pairs of skis like Jeff and the Mirus Cor's are always in my car. I think they make a fantastic one ski quiver actually. You have freestyle influence, tremendous carving fun, trees, moguls and decent powder performance all wrapped up in one ski. They look super cool and get tons of attention. That is also the only negative. I take short bathroom breaks when I have these skis sitting in a rack if you know what I mean. Awesome watching Bob destroy the trees with these! And Jeff, you can throw in footage of your wife skiing in the men's comparisons anytime you want. She's a great skier. No doubt one of your requirements in looking for a wife!
As an eastern skier who has followed the ski industry trends since the 60’s it seems we are turning away from the fat ski fad on frontside groomers. The beauty of a groomer run is feeling the energy of a turn, the engagement of edges, the carved arc of a round turn. The narrower waisted category skis may not earn the lift line coolness votes but if you want to make a powerful frontside turn they cant be beat. My new quiver ski for this season is the K2 STi with a 72 in the middle. Next buy will probably be around a 80ish, I used my 95’s for backcountry/powder days.
I bought a pair of Deacon 72s this summer for groomer days. They’ll be my first frontside skis since I was skiing rentals and I can’t wait to try them out.
1:16:49 Bob: "You know, is this [Mirus Cor] a ski that you have as your only ski?" Me (to myself): "No, definitely not." Bob: "Yeah, sure!" Me: "Oh... that's not where I thought that rhetorical question was leading at all, hahaha."
Hey guys, I need your advice! Been waiting for this review/comparison for weeks - thank you so much for doing these every year! I'm looking for a new daily driver, on piste ski that offers more high speed stability than what I had until now. I'm 5"4, 135 lbs, advanced skier, likes to go fast and already has 3 pairs of skis. What I skied until now: 2011/12 Völkl Wall in 161 (87mm under foot with 16m radius) with center mounted Marker bindings as my main piste / hard pack ski 2012/13 Armada TST in 165 (100mm underfoot with 12,6m radius) with -5 mounted Marker bindings my second main ski that I use in spring, in light pow or every day in the afternoon when the little hills form from all the people pushing the snow around. 2017/18 Armada JJ Zero in 175 (116mm under foot with 16m radius) with - 5 mounted Marker bindings as my pow (15" or more) and touring ski. Völkl and the TST carve WONDERFULLY, like a GS weapon! But at high speeds they get chattery and unstable and they don't love it when it's icy... I'm looking for a more stable ski for hardpack and going fast. I think around 78-87mm with an 18m radius or a tripple radius would be ideal. I don't want a hardcore piste ski like an Atomic Redster or similar. Offpiste performance is of zero concern with this ski. If it were versetile enough for the soft afternoon snow and bumps it would be neat but It doesn't have to be fantastic at that. The skis I'm considering: Armada Declivity 82 Ti Armada Declivity 88 C Armada Declivity 92 Ti Atomic Maverik 88TI Black Crows Captis Blizzard Anomaly 88 Blizzard Brahma 82 Elan Wingman 86 Black Edition Elan Wingman 86 CTI Nordica Enforcer 89 Rossignol Experience 86 Ti Salomon Stance 84 Salomon Stance 90 Völkl Deacon 84 Völkl Mantra 88 Can anyone help with my decision here? 🤔😅
This is a big list. I do think you can chop some fat by sticking to the more front side-oriented skis of the group. I'd narrow focus to the 2025 Volkl Peregrine 82 or V.Werks (upgraded version of old Deacon 84), Elan Wingmans, and then a few of the narrower all-mountain skis, so Blizzard Anomaly 84 (new Brahma 82) and Declivity 82 Ti. I don't think the other skis are as fitting as what you're describing your application to be, although there are a lot of fantastic all-mountain skis on this list.
@@SkiEssentials well first off, thank for sponding (and quickly too) 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻 Ok, you really think so? I was wondering, because I always managed with the Walls and the TSTs that maybe a freeski oriented variant would be better since I already know what I'm getting into and just go with something a little stiffer, longer radius 🤔 also have a hard time determining which one of the Declivities fits my needs best. Carbon or Titanal? 🤔 Also considering left overs from previous year. Brahma 82, Old carbua/carbon Declivity maybe. You think any of those would fit the bill?
Anomaly 84 or Steadfast 85? I am an advanced intermediate skier 6'1" 170 pounds. I currently ski Enforcer 93. I love their stability and can carve smooth turns at slow to moderate pace. On steep blue runs they tend to get away from me and I have a hard time making turns. I spend most of my time on groomed runs or end of the day crud. I am thinking I need something a bit narrower and easier to turn, but don't want to.lose all of the benefits of a ski like the Enforcer. Which of those skis would be better, or is there something else I should consider. Really enjoy your reviews--thank you!!
Great choices here. The Steadfast has a better low range and is easier to turn but still has a pretty high ceiling. The Anomaly feels a lot more like the Enforcer, only narrower and quicker from edge to edge. If you don't want to miss out on Enforcer-like performance, I'd go with the Anomaly.
I need your help boys. I'm a 36yo, 160lbs man and my days are now fully inbounds. Just looking for something fun and easy that takes the pressure off my torn up knees. A typical run for me is a small bowl with choppy snow, a bit of trees as you come out, mix in as many side as my knees allow and then carving fast down groomers to the lift. I'm stuck between the Stance 84, M-cross 82 and M-pro 85 (maybe the Maverick 86 too, but i just havent seen enough about it). Would you recommend one of those over the others? Appreciate all the work you guys put in for these reviews. Really impressive stuff - great work.
The Stance is a standout ski in terms of the ease of use, high performance ceiling, and value. Nothing wrong with the other skis on your list, and other than the more on-trail oriented M-Cross, any of these will handle your ideal run.
Hi guys, thank you for doing these videos, they are very helpful! I am looking for a true "do it all", one-ski quiver all mountain ski and really like the Salomon Stance 84. My main concern is that it may not be enough ski for me on faster runs on upstate NY hardpack/ice. You say that you have to work pretty hard to find its limit, so I'm thinking that it might be ok. I am 6'1", 185 lb, upper intermediate skier who skis at all different speeds on all trails (that are open) throughout the day, I want to make sure I'm not going to discover half-way down a black diamond run that the Stance is not strong enough. Think the Stance 84 will be enough for me? Or would something like a Blizzard Anamoly 84 be a better fit? Thanks!
I think the Stance will be fine for an upper intermediate who changes speeds and turn styles. The Anomaly is a stiffer ski and will hold up to higher speeds, but won't be as engaging for interesting at lower speeds.
I am probably going to make a lot of comments on this video.. I don't normally pay attention when you talk about Elan but whoever was skiing the CTI sold me on that ski.. Quick turns is what I need for early season with only a couple runs open and a ton of people.. That is what I am able to do with my old race skis.. It was a lot quicker turns than whoever was skiing the black edition.. Your wife is a great skier.. What I liked is that she did a lot of quick turns.. That is the type of skiing for early season.. It looked like the Black Crows Octo was a little more springy with all of that camber and probably not as stable as the Kastle MX 84.. For early season I want a stable ski that I can get on and off the edges immediately..
Great video. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into making them. How does the new Head Supershape e.Titan compare to the new Fischer The Curv 85?
Great comparison--I find the Titan to have a higher speed limit than the new Curv, as that ski just has a rounder overall shape and style--it prefers to be in that shorter carve while the Titan can open it up with more confidence and smoothness.
What would be the elements to choose between the Salomon Stance 84 / vwerks / Blaze 86 ? I am 6ft for 164lbs solid intermediate. Like great carving, stability, playfulness, for 15 days per year looking for 1 pair fits all, large budget. Love groomers, but look for ok ones when snowing.
Great comparison video! I'm currently looking for versatile "All Mountain Ski" for the East Coast/Quebec. I'm looking to replace my 180cm Kore 93s. My wish-list is something more fun (carving and playful) but not too harsh or tiring "Frontside" friendly groomer ski for hard and soft conditions that is still playful off trail on rare powder days around that same 180cm length. I’m currently leaning towards Anomaly 84/88, Arcade 84/88, and Peregrine 80/82 but open to other options. Thanks for your advice!
I think you'll really enjoy the Anomaly 88 here as it does a great job at blending on-trail carving with off-trail versatility. While on the heavy and stiff side, I did find the shape and character of the 88 to be a lot of fun in softer snow--something I was not expecting from these skis. The Arcade and Peregrine are very fun carvers on-piste, but the Anomaly (both widths, actually) are more comprehensive in an all-mountain format, and the 88 is just a very satisfying and rewarding ski experience. You could go to the 176 in the 88 if you're looking to unlock some of the fun carving potential without it being too tiring.
Hi, looking at your great reviews just makes me want to ski asap. I’m 6.1’ and 205 pounds, intermediate with 90% on groomers. I’m looking into peregrine 80 vs anomaly 84. What would be your recommendation and which size. Many thanks in advance.
Either can work--the Anomaly will be more of a stretch performance wise but you do have the mass to enjoy it without it feeling too demanding. The Peregrine may feel on the light side for you. I'd go Anomaly 84 in the 182.
Super helpful for someone like me who's not deep into the technical ski specs. Leaning towards Steadfast 85 as you've given them a solid thumbs up last two years. Please keep doing this every year!
Have ditched the 22/23 Kore 87 in favour of Octo for this season . . .didn't 'dislike' the Kores but felt like I needed something a little more playful - have I made the wrong BC choice and should I have gone for Mirus Cor instead?
The Octo is more of a traditional ski than the unique Mirus Cor. I would think you made the correct choice unless you're looking for something totally different.
How does the Nordica Steadfast compare to the Nordica Navigator? I am an advanced intermediate and I loved the Navigator - which has been discontinued. Any other suggestions? Thank you, love your reviews.
The Steadfast is basically the replacement for the Navigator, which we loved. And love the Steadfast! I'd say the roundness of the Steadfast is the biggest difference, but overall it's still a very versatile and smooth performer both on and off-trail. Blizzard Anomaly 84, Dynastar M-Pro 85, and Salomon Stance 84 are all great skis in this range.
The Titan has a much higher speed limit. The Q9.8's short radius and total lack of rocker and taper make it far more comfortable in a carved turn while the Titan can open it up and let it run.
I am really looking into getting a mid range ski and i also love higher speeds and medium to wide turns. How would the Redster Q7.8, Steadfast 85 and Shape V10 compare in those terms? And which one would be better suited for steeper terrain?
I have had such great success and happiness on the Steadfast, I find it tough to recommend one of the others, even though they are perfectly fine skis in their own right. When you say mid-range ski with mixing speeds and turn shapes, the Steadfast is a smooth, predictable, and precise performer. The Redster and the V10 are more picky about their turn shapes and styles while the rounder Steadfast can bounce between on and off trail characteristics with ease. I might say the Redster is a bit better suited for steeper terrain, but Steadfast overall is great.
The Mirus Cor feels more sturdy and carvy with greater torsional stiffness underfoot. I do think the Blade offers more overall versatility due to the width and soft snow potential, but the Mirus Cor is a more accomplished carver on firmer snow.
Weird question, but how does the Black Crows Octo compare to a K2 Mindbender 85? I know there’s a big price difference, but it looks a like a similar formula from both. Thank you!
They both focus on shorter turns and ease of use, but I would say the Octo has a higher performance ceiling. It's also more of a small-batch, high-quality product than the K2, hence the price difference. If budget is a concern here, I think the K2 is a wonderful ski.
Advanced skier spending most of my time carving in Europe, but I do like to spend time with friends and kids at lower speeds as well. Also messing at the side of the groomer for fun. Debating between the Anomaly 84, Mantra 88 and Declivity 82. What do you suggest? Any other models I should consider?
The Declivity offers a nice blend of on-trail carving performance and lighter weight and energy for off-trail kid skiing. The other two are higher octane overall and require more work. The Mantra 88 is quite well-rounded, but it's still pretty stiff and eager for speed. In the mid-80's, I also really like the Head Kore 87 for another lighter option that still feels very crisp and stable on groomers.
23:20 You're not kidding about pressure into the tails - is this just for demonstration?? I'm thinking not since the remainder of the video shows the same behavior from your rep, which makes me wonder so many things...
Where does the Atomic Maverick 88 Ti stack up here? I'm considering the Black Crows Octo or Atomic Marverick 88Ti. Any insights you can give there to help me with this choice? I'm planning to go 90% on-piste so carving performance is important to me. I already have the Atomic Redster X9S so I'd like something I can take out when there are loose snow conditions.
It feels a lot like the Head Kore 87 in terms of weight and energy, but the Maverick is a bit more damp due to the metal. The Maverick is more powerful than the Octo but not as easy to get along with in bumps, trees, or other tight spots--the Maverick is pretty stiff, especially in the tail.
Awesome guys ! I’m very interested about the Stance 84. I’m 186cm tall for 70 kg. I have an advance level, I love speed and carving but also jump some muggles and powder of course. Would you recommend the 185cm or 177cm for my profile ? Thank you so much for your videos 🙏
I own the 84 and so does my good friend. He is 185cm tall ... he owns the shorter model. He uses it to ski smaller local mountains or on bump days. It is excellent in the moguls . However it's not made for Speed. I would definitely get the longest version if you want to ski fast. It may be good enough. I doubt you would find the shorter length comfortable for higher speed skiing. But overall it's a great value all mountain ski.
Ive found a good deal on the Stance 84 but im not sure whether they're really what im after. Currently got Candide 3.0 as a one ski quiver, but its definitely a ski for what i want to ski, not for what i normally ski, so looking for something more frontside to compliment it. I don't know if the stance might get a little out of its depth when pushing a bit harder though. The price is making it very tempting but not sure if its maybe better suited to slower paced intermediate skiing. It sounds like the wider versions are for more experienced skiers, but as it will be mostly for frontside, I'm not bothered by more float. Any thoughts?
If you're concerned about performance, I do think the Stance 90 is a better option. The upgraded build does hold up, and while you may pay a bit more for it, it's tough to live and ski with regret.
@@SkiEssentials ok I've gone down a bit of a rabbit hole now with looking at 90+ widths. How would the stance 90 compare to the Line Blade Optic 92? If I stretch my budget a bit the faction dancer 1 is also an option (going the opposite direction in terms of width). Any thoughts on these two? Thanks
@@geeberg5129 The Optic is the most playful of the three with a twin tip shape and more consistent rocker profiles in the tips and tails. The Faction is kind of the opposite in that it has a lot of camber and not a lot of rocker, making it better suited to on-trail carving and lots of energy.
@@SkiEssentialsyeah I guess the idea with those two options would be that the line would become the new one ski quiver unless I knew I was touring or there was loads of snow. Whereas the dancers would be to complement the Candides for when skiing front side. I'm leaning towards the factions though. What length would you recommend for someone 190cm/75kg? My Candides are 191 but there's a load of rocker on those so wondering whether the 178 dancer is worth considering over the 186.
You can visit her tester profile page on our ski test and get more of her feedback on the skis she tested! www.skiessentials.com/2025-ski-test/tester/megan-papineau-st25
Between head shape v10 volkl blaze 86 and head kore 87 which one has better carving and stability at speed while still being a good ski off piste? And how much do they cost?
The Kore 87 has the most upside and potential when it comes to carving stability and off-piste performance. www.skiessentials.com/products/2025-head-kore-87-skis-315454?ski%2520size=170
Hey guys enjoy the videos. Looking for recommendations for skis. I travel to Colorado to ski. I’m looking to demo/purchase skis this year, I’m intermediate 6ft and an athletic 260. Mainly find myself on groomers but looking to go into trees this year. Curious to see what you would recommend for my size. Have only skied resort rentals. The head Kore line has caught my interest. Would you recommend the 87, 93, or something other than head Kore?
The Kore line is sweet--the 93 would probably be the way to go in Colorado. Also in the low to mid-90's with more of a groomer focus, I'd check out the Armada Declivity 92, Salomon QST 92, or the Dynastar M-Pro 94.
Shoot, was kinda hoping for the Wingman 86Ti to be in here as well. But I understand 3 Wingmen is a bit much. Would you say the Ti is a bit further to the right? Similar to something like the Steadfast or just right next to the CTi? I am looking for a 80% frontside, 20% "versatility" ski. I will mostly be on groomers but I like to have fun with small jumps, trees and short off piste adventures as well. At first the Ripstick caught my eye, but I think I value carving performance a bit too much to go for the Ripstick. I would say Im somewhere in the intermediate-advanced range. Definitely not an expert. Any tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for the high quality vids as always! Cheers
The Ti version isn't any less stiff, as it has a thicker core profile than the CTi. I think it's still better for a more versatile-oriented skier, mainly because you're getting nearly everything as the CTi except for the rebound of the carbon rods. You're also getting a $200 discount with the Ti (slightly lower binding), so that should help a bit!
Hey, I ski both the Wingman 86 CTI and Ripstick 96. I live them both, they are a great 2 skis quiver. The Ripstick is definitely more playful and forgiving. I did ski the Wingman in the west as a daily driver before I got the Ripsticks and it was perfectly happy as a all terrain ski. Went in bowls and trees and it was good. I was just missing that playful and floatyness nature of the Ripstick, especially in POW days
Stockli 😍. Does the less torsionally stiff tail make it lose the pop? I ski Head titans frontside, but they are getting old and I'm concerned about the bindings (I do get them tested for release). Considering the E-Titan or Rally or whatever replaced the Titan Supershape, but I broke my upper ribs, sternum, arm and tore off my latissimus in a fall after catching that wide flat tail skiing with my boots undone. Maybe a less fun tail might be a good idea to try? I like metal, rubber, fibreglass. Not carbon. Like sandwich sidewall. Ski Canadian Rockies, 85-105 width are good daily drivers for me. I'm a woman, but am a height, weight and personality that means men's skis. Your wife is smaller than me, but skis more like me than you guys do, so it's easier to imagine. Thanks for including her.
Hey guys, great vid as always. Just wondering what length would a person go with for these more front side oriented skis? Im only used to heavy rocker and 100mm+ underfoot. For example, Im on 184cm lengths usually (wildcats, chetlers, hojis)
Generally with these skis below head high is a good place to be as you're basically trying to make the ski turnier on smooth terrain. Also the construction of many of these skis is on the strong and burly side so most skiers don't feel the need to upsize in order to access performance.
guys, I'm a strong snowboarder, who wants to include skis in his range. I want something for the track with occasional trips off the track. I'm thinking about kore 87, ripstik 88 and nordica 85 steadfast? thanks in advance
The Ripstick is a good choice here because it's both easy to use and has a high performance ceiling. The Kore is a bit stiff and the Steadfast is very on-trail and carving oriented. Ripstick does a great job of mixing attributes, which I think is important for a snowboarder looking to get on skis.
@SkiEssentials based of his jacket he must be the one the rossignol at 1:06:00. What a great recreational skiing style does he have. If you guys put out a 5 hour video with such footage, you have at least 1 view guaranteed: D
The Dancer is in the written portion, but we did not have the ski to include in the video. Declivity will be featured in the wide portion of the frontside comparisons.
The Steadfast can do bumps and carves but isn't that fast. The Montero can carve and go fast but isn't as good at bumps. Anomaly 84 has a very good mix of the properties--I'd say that one is up there for me.
Will SE be stocking the New Kastle DX 84? Would you happened to know how much metal is in that ski? The manufacturer website just says " titanal".... Doesn't specify how much or placement. But they are supposed to be 20% lighter than the outgoing DX 85 and as stable...(so kastle says). I love my dx 85s. These are an intriguing update...I'd like to see 1 sheet of metal and a bit more rocker as updates. Perfect midpoint between the zx and mx.
Hey guys, i need you help if its possible. 35yo, 174cm and 77kg, advanced level 80% groomers, 20% off piste. I like to go fast and usually ski on spain and french alps. What is your best recommendation for purchasing only one ski? I would appreciate model and lenght advice. Thanks in advance :)
For an 80/20 split, I think there's a lot to like about the Head Kore 87 for a lighter option and the Rossignol Arcade 84 for a heftier and stiffer ski. I'd go low 170's in either model.
Other manufacturers use multiple radiuses, it's not just a Volkl thing. Mid carve, the underfoot measurement is the one you'll feel the most. Tip and tail impacts how the ski feels when entering and exiting carves, drifting turns, and skiing straight.
We've also found that you can pay attention to the radii and try to figure out the differences, plusses, and minuses, or you can go the other route and just ski it and not think about it. In Volkl, the 3D Radius Sidecut also pairs very well with their flatter rocker profiles, allowing skiers to really feel and enjoy the different shapes and styles.
There certainly is! We were happy to feature the Maverick 88 Ti in our ~90 mm Comparison (even though the 86 C and 88 Ti share the same mold). ruclips.net/video/7YEO7bGt-xw/видео.html
@@SkiEssentialsgreat thanks for the reply. Part of the reason I asked is everywhere seems to only be selling last years model with most of the sizes sold out
Very random question: Can somebody explain to me why you would want to ski with poles that are that long? To me they just seem to get in the way more than anything else. Is it just a habit thing that everybody grew up with, or is there an actual benefit to this?
There are some former racers in this video--I imagine you're referring to them as they typically have longer poles. This stems from the need to push out of a start gate and double pole-plant for speed and balance. That need sort of subsides when you enter your non-competition phase, but some skiers just keep the longer poles. My poles are about 2-4 inches shorter than recommended because I have a mogul background and always used shorter poles--same with Jeff and his park style. When I use longer poles, I get the sensation that I can keep my hands higher with greater ease, but I don't like how non-quick they are in tighter turns, which I prefer to do.
Just ahead of our time, I guess. Like cars or other products that work a year ahead, skis are much the same way. We start skiing and filming next year's skis basically in December and January. This way, we can put the content out when we get our stock in. So yes, you're buying 2025 skis in 2024, and come this Dec/Jan, we'll be skiing on 2026 product!
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I look forward to these comparisons every year. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into making them.
Glad you like them!
Guys, last year I bought a Deacon 84 based on your presentations and explanations, and I felt extremely satisfied with that.This year I bought a Kore 93, also based on your experience and characterization and I expect similar fun and challenges. Your format is with a distance the best one can get in this market. Thanks for all your efforts!
I’ve skied my stance 84’s in the vail back bowls in 8” of fresh; it wasn’t the best for that obviously, but it still worked out reasonably well. Such a versatile ski!
Totally, and if it can handle that for a day or two, that's all bonus!
I missed these comparisons, thanks for the work you do, your opinions are incredibly helpful.
A word on the Mindbender 85- I picked up a 2021 model for way too little money at a local swap to use as an instructor ski. I figured I’d teach on it and then stash it and ski my “real” skis once lessons were over. I had way more fun on these than I should have. I found their limits and pushed past them repeatedly. They don’t love moderate speeds, much less high speeds when it’s firm, but on moderately soft groomers, they were just a blast to flip from edge to edge. $50 well spent.
75-85+ has had IMO the most innovations in fun production in the last 4 years. Sticking with wider for now, but these are on the radar
I got my buddy who is a very casual skier the minder bender 85 for his Bday, hes had a great time on it. Skied in in every condition up at big sky over a week from pow to hard pack. Great value ski for a beginner-Intermediate
Cool, not every skier needs the tech and precision of the top shelf skis. The middle ground ski, which is where the bulk of the ski population is at has exactly what a growing intermediate skier needs for a safe and fun day on the mountain. I have been on a K2 research binge for the last couple of years, buying 2 models and a pair of mindbender 120 boots. IMO K2 is back from the dead after losing the original red, white, and blue racing DNA and going to the ridiculous world of the Cheeseburger years…..K2 is worth the look today.
I bought Mindbender 85's to my wife and daughter last spring for 99€ (including bindings). They both loved the ski and the price was too ridiculous to pass.
The value to performance ratio for intermediate-ish skiers is fantastic here.
Athletic intermediate / 30 years old / 5’8
(Side note: No budget)
Based on the comments and how Jeff and Bob talk about the quality of Stockli skiis, I’m very close to buying a pair - maybe the MONTERO AR 84 or the STORMRIDER 88.
I live on the East Coast. I’ve been skiing for 5 years. I’m sure my form isn’t perfect but I can get down blacks without much issue.
I’ve really only been using a 94 underfoot Rossignol Black Ops Escaper for the past few years. They’re great skis for cruising but I really want to start carving a little better and I feel that the 94 width is holding me back me from doing that. I also imagine the 94 width isn’t the best size for East Coast hardpack skiing in the first place anyway.
The only thing holding me back is the weight of the Stockli skis and maneuverability. Based on the above, would I be better served with the STOCKLI AR or STORMRIDER?
Or maybe even something like the Nordica Steadfast?
Thanks for all your continued videos! So helpful and fun to watch.
I started the season on a brand new AR in 170cm this week. They are smooth for sure! If you end up going this way, I suggest you experiment with the binding position as the suggested mount point is quite rearward and as an intermediate, you might easily end up in the backseat and it gets easier to get shorter turns with forward point. I have small feets, so I ended up moving the position like 2-3 cm to help engaging the tip. Conditions are super hard packed snow right now, so nothing to help the ski bites. I didn't try the stormrider yet, but I think the montero would probably complement your black ops better for the east coast. I don't find them so heavy, basically the same weight as my forzas I think. Maybe the AX would be more appropriate for maneuverability.
The lighter Stormrider 88 might be a great choice here, although maybe on the wide side? If you go with the AR, I'd go shorter than you might think.
At a demo day last year I paid $20 and immediately jumped on the Stockli Montero AR, knowing there was no chance I'd buy them since I already have Wingman 82 Ti and 86 CTi. "Ski some Stocklis for $20? Deal of the year!"
Deal of the year for the ski shop because I couldn't stop thinking about them and 2 days later I went into the shop, credit card in hand. The most amazing ski I've ever been on.
Ha! Great story, and I don't think you're the first who that has happened to.
Great review, thanks! Loved watching it. I' m not very experienced myself and rather lightweighed so I tend to go for the K2 Mindbender
Mirus Cor's; I own ten pairs of skis like Jeff and the Mirus Cor's are always in my car. I think they make a fantastic one ski quiver actually. You have freestyle influence, tremendous carving fun, trees, moguls and decent powder performance all wrapped up in one ski. They look super cool and get tons of attention. That is also the only negative. I take short bathroom breaks when I have these skis sitting in a rack if you know what I mean. Awesome watching Bob destroy the trees with these!
And Jeff, you can throw in footage of your wife skiing in the men's comparisons anytime you want. She's a great skier. No doubt one of your requirements in looking for a wife!
Got the Mirus Cor last year from your reviews, and def is my daily driver one ski. Love it on east cost skiing in Canada.
Thank you for the amazing overview.
yes, it possible to watch you ski these skis and see some of the differences in performance,
Thanks for going in this direction gents!
About time oh boy is this great ❄️👊🏻
Aux. Plaisir de vous revoir une belle saison de skie et merci pour votre présentation de ses nouveaux skie 😮❤❤
Thank you for your good advises!
Getting into my zone now👍...slice and dice!
As an eastern skier who has followed the ski industry trends since the 60’s it seems we are turning away from the fat ski fad on frontside groomers. The beauty of a groomer run is feeling the energy of a turn, the engagement of edges, the carved arc of a round turn. The narrower waisted category skis may not earn the lift line coolness votes but if you want to make a powerful frontside turn they cant be beat. My new quiver ski for this season is the K2 STi with a 72 in the middle. Next buy will probably be around a 80ish, I used my 95’s for backcountry/powder days.
I bought a pair of Deacon 72s this summer for groomer days. They’ll be my first frontside skis since I was skiing rentals and I can’t wait to try them out.
1:16:49
Bob: "You know, is this [Mirus Cor] a ski that you have as your only ski?"
Me (to myself): "No, definitely not."
Bob: "Yeah, sure!"
Me: "Oh... that's not where I thought that rhetorical question was leading at all, hahaha."
Hey guys, I need your advice!
Been waiting for this review/comparison for weeks - thank you so much for doing these every year!
I'm looking for a new daily driver, on piste ski that offers more high speed stability than what I had until now.
I'm 5"4, 135 lbs, advanced skier, likes to go fast and already has 3 pairs of skis.
What I skied until now:
2011/12 Völkl Wall in 161 (87mm under foot with 16m radius) with center mounted Marker bindings as my main piste / hard pack ski
2012/13 Armada TST in 165 (100mm underfoot with 12,6m radius) with -5 mounted Marker bindings my second main ski that I use in spring, in light pow or every day in the afternoon when the little hills form from all the people pushing the snow around.
2017/18 Armada JJ Zero in 175 (116mm under foot with 16m radius) with - 5 mounted Marker bindings as my pow (15" or more) and touring ski.
Völkl and the TST carve WONDERFULLY, like a GS weapon! But at high speeds they get chattery and unstable and they don't love it when it's icy...
I'm looking for a more stable ski for hardpack and going fast. I think around 78-87mm with an 18m radius or a tripple radius would be ideal.
I don't want a hardcore piste ski like an Atomic Redster or similar.
Offpiste performance is of zero concern with this ski.
If it were versetile enough for the soft afternoon snow and bumps it would be neat but It doesn't have to be fantastic at that.
The skis I'm considering:
Armada Declivity 82 Ti
Armada Declivity 88 C
Armada Declivity 92 Ti
Atomic Maverik 88TI
Black Crows Captis
Blizzard Anomaly 88
Blizzard Brahma 82
Elan Wingman 86 Black Edition
Elan Wingman 86 CTI
Nordica Enforcer 89
Rossignol Experience 86 Ti
Salomon Stance 84
Salomon Stance 90
Völkl Deacon 84
Völkl Mantra 88
Can anyone help with my decision here? 🤔😅
This is a big list. I do think you can chop some fat by sticking to the more front side-oriented skis of the group. I'd narrow focus to the 2025 Volkl Peregrine 82 or V.Werks (upgraded version of old Deacon 84), Elan Wingmans, and then a few of the narrower all-mountain skis, so Blizzard Anomaly 84 (new Brahma 82) and Declivity 82 Ti. I don't think the other skis are as fitting as what you're describing your application to be, although there are a lot of fantastic all-mountain skis on this list.
@@SkiEssentials well first off, thank for sponding (and quickly too) 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Ok, you really think so?
I was wondering, because I always managed with the Walls and the TSTs that maybe a freeski oriented variant would be better since I already know what I'm getting into and just go with something a little stiffer, longer radius 🤔
also have a hard time determining which one of the Declivities fits my needs best.
Carbon or Titanal? 🤔
Also considering left overs from previous year. Brahma 82, Old carbua/carbon Declivity maybe. You think any of those would fit the bill?
Anomaly 84 or Steadfast 85? I am an advanced intermediate skier 6'1" 170 pounds. I currently ski Enforcer 93. I love their stability and can carve smooth turns at slow to moderate pace. On steep blue runs they tend to get away from me and I have a hard time making turns. I spend most of my time on groomed runs or end of the day crud. I am thinking I need something a bit narrower and easier to turn, but don't want to.lose all of the benefits of a ski like the Enforcer. Which of those skis would be better, or is there something else I should consider. Really enjoy your reviews--thank you!!
Great choices here. The Steadfast has a better low range and is easier to turn but still has a pretty high ceiling. The Anomaly feels a lot more like the Enforcer, only narrower and quicker from edge to edge. If you don't want to miss out on Enforcer-like performance, I'd go with the Anomaly.
@@SkiEssentials Thank you!
@@SkiEssentialsHow do these compare to the Dancer 1
I need your help boys. I'm a 36yo, 160lbs man and my days are now fully inbounds. Just looking for something fun and easy that takes the pressure off my torn up knees. A typical run for me is a small bowl with choppy snow, a bit of trees as you come out, mix in as many side as my knees allow and then carving fast down groomers to the lift. I'm stuck between the Stance 84, M-cross 82 and M-pro 85 (maybe the Maverick 86 too, but i just havent seen enough about it). Would you recommend one of those over the others?
Appreciate all the work you guys put in for these reviews. Really impressive stuff - great work.
The Stance is a standout ski in terms of the ease of use, high performance ceiling, and value. Nothing wrong with the other skis on your list, and other than the more on-trail oriented M-Cross, any of these will handle your ideal run.
Hi guys, thank you for doing these videos, they are very helpful! I am looking for a true "do it all", one-ski quiver all mountain ski and really like the Salomon Stance 84. My main concern is that it may not be enough ski for me on faster runs on upstate NY hardpack/ice. You say that you have to work pretty hard to find its limit, so I'm thinking that it might be ok. I am 6'1", 185 lb, upper intermediate skier who skis at all different speeds on all trails (that are open) throughout the day, I want to make sure I'm not going to discover half-way down a black diamond run that the Stance is not strong enough. Think the Stance 84 will be enough for me? Or would something like a Blizzard Anamoly 84 be a better fit? Thanks!
I think the Stance will be fine for an upper intermediate who changes speeds and turn styles. The Anomaly is a stiffer ski and will hold up to higher speeds, but won't be as engaging for interesting at lower speeds.
I am probably going to make a lot of comments on this video.. I don't normally pay attention when you talk about Elan but whoever was skiing the CTI sold me on that ski.. Quick turns is what I need for early season with only a couple runs open and a ton of people.. That is what I am able to do with my old race skis.. It was a lot quicker turns than whoever was skiing the black edition..
Your wife is a great skier.. What I liked is that she did a lot of quick turns.. That is the type of skiing for early season.. It looked like the Black Crows Octo was a little more springy with all of that camber and probably not as stable as the Kastle MX 84.. For early season I want a stable ski that I can get on and off the edges immediately..
You'll love those skis. The Wingman 86 CTI is what I learned to carve on, that ski took me from low to high intermediate over the course of a season.
@@iancowan1634 Nice..
Great video. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into making them. How does the new Head Supershape e.Titan compare to the new Fischer The Curv 85?
Great comparison--I find the Titan to have a higher speed limit than the new Curv, as that ski just has a rounder overall shape and style--it prefers to be in that shorter carve while the Titan can open it up with more confidence and smoothness.
Yessss. Now some real skis
What would be the elements to choose between the Salomon Stance 84 / vwerks / Blaze 86 ? I am 6ft for 164lbs solid intermediate. Like great carving, stability, playfulness, for 15 days per year looking for 1 pair fits all, large budget. Love groomers, but look for ok ones when snowing.
Great comparison video! I'm currently looking for versatile "All Mountain Ski" for the East Coast/Quebec. I'm looking to replace my 180cm Kore 93s. My wish-list is something more fun (carving and playful) but not too harsh or tiring "Frontside" friendly groomer ski for hard and soft conditions that is still playful off trail on rare powder days around that same 180cm length. I’m currently leaning towards Anomaly 84/88, Arcade 84/88, and Peregrine 80/82 but open to other options. Thanks for your advice!
I think you'll really enjoy the Anomaly 88 here as it does a great job at blending on-trail carving with off-trail versatility. While on the heavy and stiff side, I did find the shape and character of the 88 to be a lot of fun in softer snow--something I was not expecting from these skis. The Arcade and Peregrine are very fun carvers on-piste, but the Anomaly (both widths, actually) are more comprehensive in an all-mountain format, and the 88 is just a very satisfying and rewarding ski experience. You could go to the 176 in the 88 if you're looking to unlock some of the fun carving potential without it being too tiring.
@@SkiEssentials Thanks for your reply! I’m 6’ 195 would I hate myself sizing up to the 182s in the Anomaly’s?
@@Canuckcluck No I don't think it's a hate situation. It's just a bit more of a handful in tighter spaces and more technical zones.
Hi, looking at your great reviews just makes me want to ski asap. I’m 6.1’ and 205 pounds, intermediate with 90% on groomers. I’m looking into peregrine 80 vs anomaly 84. What would be your recommendation and which size. Many thanks in advance.
Either can work--the Anomaly will be more of a stretch performance wise but you do have the mass to enjoy it without it feeling too demanding. The Peregrine may feel on the light side for you. I'd go Anomaly 84 in the 182.
@@SkiEssentialsthank you so much!!!
@@FitchoMolnarhave you considered the Armada Declivity 82 ti? Might be a bit in between both.
No Declivity 82 🤔 or not mid enough and will be in fat frontside skis?
Our cutoff was 84 for this video, we'll be happy to feature the Declivity 82 in the wide portion of our frontside comparison!
They are affordable…cause people buy them..😂😂😂😂 Gotta love Jeff.
Thanks Jeff and Bob - wondering if you'd recommend any of these skis for biginner?
The K2 Minbender 85 and the Salomon Stance 84 are your best beginner bets here.
Super helpful for someone like me who's not deep into the technical ski specs. Leaning towards Steadfast 85 as you've given them a solid thumbs up last two years. Please keep doing this every year!
Glad to help!
Have ditched the 22/23 Kore 87 in favour of Octo for this season . . .didn't 'dislike' the Kores but felt like I needed something a little more playful - have I made the wrong BC choice and should I have gone for Mirus Cor instead?
The Octo is more of a traditional ski than the unique Mirus Cor. I would think you made the correct choice unless you're looking for something totally different.
How does the Nordica Steadfast compare to the Nordica Navigator? I am an advanced intermediate and I loved the Navigator - which has been discontinued. Any other suggestions? Thank you, love your reviews.
The Steadfast is basically the replacement for the Navigator, which we loved. And love the Steadfast! I'd say the roundness of the Steadfast is the biggest difference, but overall it's still a very versatile and smooth performer both on and off-trail. Blizzard Anomaly 84, Dynastar M-Pro 85, and Salomon Stance 84 are all great skis in this range.
quick question, how does the supershpape titan compare to the q9.8?
Very close i guess. same kind of shape and stiffness.
The Titan has a much higher speed limit. The Q9.8's short radius and total lack of rocker and taper make it far more comfortable in a carved turn while the Titan can open it up and let it run.
I am really looking into getting a mid range ski and i also love higher speeds and medium to wide turns. How would the Redster Q7.8, Steadfast 85 and Shape V10 compare in those terms?
And which one would be better suited for steeper terrain?
I have had such great success and happiness on the Steadfast, I find it tough to recommend one of the others, even though they are perfectly fine skis in their own right. When you say mid-range ski with mixing speeds and turn shapes, the Steadfast is a smooth, predictable, and precise performer. The Redster and the V10 are more picky about their turn shapes and styles while the rounder Steadfast can bounce between on and off trail characteristics with ease. I might say the Redster is a bit better suited for steeper terrain, but Steadfast overall is great.
Curious how the Mirrus Cor compares to the Line Blade!??
The Mirus Cor feels more sturdy and carvy with greater torsional stiffness underfoot. I do think the Blade offers more overall versatility due to the width and soft snow potential, but the Mirus Cor is a more accomplished carver on firmer snow.
Weird question, but how does the Black Crows Octo compare to a K2 Mindbender 85? I know there’s a big price difference, but it looks a like a similar formula from both. Thank you!
They both focus on shorter turns and ease of use, but I would say the Octo has a higher performance ceiling. It's also more of a small-batch, high-quality product than the K2, hence the price difference. If budget is a concern here, I think the K2 is a wonderful ski.
Hell yeah
Advanced skier spending most of my time carving in Europe, but I do like to spend time with friends and kids at lower speeds as well. Also messing at the side of the groomer for fun. Debating between the Anomaly 84, Mantra 88 and Declivity 82. What do you suggest? Any other models I should consider?
The Declivity offers a nice blend of on-trail carving performance and lighter weight and energy for off-trail kid skiing. The other two are higher octane overall and require more work. The Mantra 88 is quite well-rounded, but it's still pretty stiff and eager for speed. In the mid-80's, I also really like the Head Kore 87 for another lighter option that still feels very crisp and stable on groomers.
23:20 You're not kidding about pressure into the tails - is this just for demonstration?? I'm thinking not since the remainder of the video shows the same behavior from your rep, which makes me wonder so many things...
Probably just playing around with the ski and finding some fun in the energy!
Where does the Atomic Maverick 88 Ti stack up here? I'm considering the Black Crows Octo or Atomic Marverick 88Ti. Any insights you can give there to help me with this choice?
I'm planning to go 90% on-piste so carving performance is important to me. I already have the Atomic Redster X9S so I'd like something I can take out when there are loose snow conditions.
It feels a lot like the Head Kore 87 in terms of weight and energy, but the Maverick is a bit more damp due to the metal. The Maverick is more powerful than the Octo but not as easy to get along with in bumps, trees, or other tight spots--the Maverick is pretty stiff, especially in the tail.
Awesome guys ! I’m very interested about the Stance 84. I’m 186cm tall for 70 kg. I have an advance level, I love speed and carving but also jump some muggles and powder of course. Would you recommend the 185cm or 177cm for my profile ? Thank you so much for your videos 🙏
I own the 84 and so does my good friend. He is 185cm tall ... he owns the shorter model. He uses it to ski smaller local mountains or on bump days. It is excellent in the moguls . However it's not made for Speed. I would definitely get the longest version if you want to ski fast. It may be good enough. I doubt you would find the shorter length comfortable for higher speed skiing. But overall it's a great value all mountain ski.
@@carterfan80thank you very much for your feedback my friend. I’ll go with the 185! 🙏😊
Ive found a good deal on the Stance 84 but im not sure whether they're really what im after. Currently got Candide 3.0 as a one ski quiver, but its definitely a ski for what i want to ski, not for what i normally ski, so looking for something more frontside to compliment it. I don't know if the stance might get a little out of its depth when pushing a bit harder though. The price is making it very tempting but not sure if its maybe better suited to slower paced intermediate skiing. It sounds like the wider versions are for more experienced skiers, but as it will be mostly for frontside, I'm not bothered by more float. Any thoughts?
If you're concerned about performance, I do think the Stance 90 is a better option. The upgraded build does hold up, and while you may pay a bit more for it, it's tough to live and ski with regret.
@SkiEssentials thanks for the quick repsonse, that's kind of what I thought. Tough to pass up a deal, but not really a deal if it's not what you want.
@@SkiEssentials ok I've gone down a bit of a rabbit hole now with looking at 90+ widths. How would the stance 90 compare to the Line Blade Optic 92? If I stretch my budget a bit the faction dancer 1 is also an option (going the opposite direction in terms of width). Any thoughts on these two? Thanks
@@geeberg5129 The Optic is the most playful of the three with a twin tip shape and more consistent rocker profiles in the tips and tails. The Faction is kind of the opposite in that it has a lot of camber and not a lot of rocker, making it better suited to on-trail carving and lots of energy.
@@SkiEssentialsyeah I guess the idea with those two options would be that the line would become the new one ski quiver unless I knew I was touring or there was loads of snow. Whereas the dancers would be to complement the Candides for when skiing front side. I'm leaning towards the factions though. What length would you recommend for someone 190cm/75kg? My Candides are 191 but there's a load of rocker on those so wondering whether the 178 dancer is worth considering over the 186.
I'm gonna say it, your bride is a darn good skier, makes you two look a bit lazy! 🤣
Yeah, can we get her take on some of these skis? She rips.
You can visit her tester profile page on our ski test and get more of her feedback on the skis she tested! www.skiessentials.com/2025-ski-test/tester/megan-papineau-st25
Between head shape v10 volkl blaze 86 and head kore 87 which one has better carving and stability at speed while still being a good ski off piste? And how much do they cost?
The Kore 87 has the most upside and potential when it comes to carving stability and off-piste performance.
www.skiessentials.com/products/2025-head-kore-87-skis-315454?ski%2520size=170
Hey guys enjoy the videos. Looking for recommendations for skis. I travel to Colorado to ski. I’m looking to demo/purchase skis this year,
I’m intermediate 6ft and an athletic 260. Mainly find myself on groomers but looking to go into trees this year. Curious to see what you would recommend for my size. Have only skied resort rentals. The head Kore line has caught my interest. Would you recommend the 87, 93, or something other than head Kore?
Rustler 9
The Kore line is sweet--the 93 would probably be the way to go in Colorado. Also in the low to mid-90's with more of a groomer focus, I'd check out the Armada Declivity 92, Salomon QST 92, or the Dynastar M-Pro 94.
@@SkiEssentials thanks for the recommendations
Great video again guys! But what happened to the Armada Declivity 82?
Same as last year I think. It will be in the narrower video. This one was 84mm cut off
We are pleased to feature the Armada Declivity 82 Ti in the wide section of our Frontside comparison with skis topping out at 82 mm underfoot.
Shoot, was kinda hoping for the Wingman 86Ti to be in here as well. But I understand 3 Wingmen is a bit much. Would you say the Ti is a bit further to the right? Similar to something like the Steadfast or just right next to the CTi? I am looking for a 80% frontside, 20% "versatility" ski. I will mostly be on groomers but I like to have fun with small jumps, trees and short off piste adventures as well. At first the Ripstick caught my eye, but I think I value carving performance a bit too much to go for the Ripstick. I would say Im somewhere in the intermediate-advanced range. Definitely not an expert. Any tips would be greatly appreciated! Thanks for the high quality vids as always! Cheers
They talk about the Ti vs. the CTi in last year’s wide frontside video
The Ti version isn't any less stiff, as it has a thicker core profile than the CTi. I think it's still better for a more versatile-oriented skier, mainly because you're getting nearly everything as the CTi except for the rebound of the carbon rods. You're also getting a $200 discount with the Ti (slightly lower binding), so that should help a bit!
Hey, I ski both the Wingman 86 CTI and Ripstick 96. I live them both, they are a great 2 skis quiver. The Ripstick is definitely more playful and forgiving. I did ski the Wingman in the west as a daily driver before I got the Ripsticks and it was perfectly happy as a all terrain ski. Went in bowls and trees and it was good. I was just missing that playful and floatyness nature of the Ripstick, especially in POW days
Stockli 😍. Does the less torsionally stiff tail make it lose the pop? I ski Head titans frontside, but they are getting old and I'm concerned about the bindings (I do get them tested for release).
Considering the E-Titan or Rally or whatever replaced the Titan Supershape, but I broke my upper ribs, sternum, arm and tore off my latissimus in a fall after catching that wide flat tail skiing with my boots undone. Maybe a less fun tail might be a good idea to try? I like metal, rubber, fibreglass. Not carbon. Like sandwich sidewall. Ski Canadian Rockies, 85-105 width are good daily drivers for me.
I'm a woman, but am a height, weight and personality that means men's skis. Your wife is smaller than me, but skis more like me than you guys do, so it's easier to imagine. Thanks for including her.
The e.Titan is pretty much the same as what you're getting out of and are now offered with a Tyrolia Protector binding which is a nice upgrade.
@@SkiEssentials thank you!
Hey guys, great vid as always.
Just wondering what length would a person go with for these more front side oriented skis? Im only used to heavy rocker and 100mm+ underfoot. For example, Im on 184cm lengths usually (wildcats, chetlers, hojis)
Generally with these skis below head high is a good place to be as you're basically trying to make the ski turnier on smooth terrain. Also the construction of many of these skis is on the strong and burly side so most skiers don't feel the need to upsize in order to access performance.
guys, I'm a strong snowboarder, who wants to include skis in his range. I want something for the track with occasional trips off the track. I'm thinking about kore 87, ripstik 88 and nordica 85 steadfast? thanks in advance
The Ripstick is a good choice here because it's both easy to use and has a high performance ceiling. The Kore is a bit stiff and the Steadfast is very on-trail and carving oriented. Ripstick does a great job of mixing attributes, which I think is important for a snowboarder looking to get on skis.
Is Matt skiing the Elan at 13:00?
And the blizzard at 41:30?
Jeff in both clips.
@SkiEssentials based of his jacket he must be the one the rossignol at 1:06:00. What a great recreational skiing style does he have. If you guys put out a 5 hour video with such footage, you have at least 1 view guaranteed: D
What about Declivity 82 or Dancer 86 type of skis ?
The Dancer is in the written portion, but we did not have the ski to include in the video. Declivity will be featured in the wide portion of the frontside comparisons.
@@SkiEssentials Where in this horizontal list would have you put the dancer 1 please ?
What are you favorite bump skis on this list that can carve on hard snow and go fast?
The Steadfast can do bumps and carves but isn't that fast. The Montero can carve and go fast but isn't as good at bumps. Anomaly 84 has a very good mix of the properties--I'd say that one is up there for me.
Will SE be stocking the New Kastle DX 84? Would you happened to know how much metal is in that ski? The manufacturer website just says " titanal".... Doesn't specify how much or placement. But they are supposed to be 20% lighter than the outgoing DX 85 and as stable...(so kastle says). I love my dx 85s. These are an intriguing update...I'd like to see 1 sheet of metal and a bit more rocker as updates. Perfect midpoint between the zx and mx.
The new DX has one full layer of Titanal on the top
We will not be stocking the DX 84 this year. It does seem like one full sheet is the going tech here.
Hey guys, i need you help if its possible. 35yo, 174cm and 77kg, advanced level 80% groomers, 20% off piste. I like to go fast and usually ski on spain and french alps. What is your best recommendation for purchasing only one ski? I would appreciate model and lenght advice. Thanks in advance :)
For an 80/20 split, I think there's a lot to like about the Head Kore 87 for a lighter option and the Rossignol Arcade 84 for a heftier and stiffer ski. I'd go low 170's in either model.
Volkl turn multiple turn radius is so confusing. Which of the 4 is comparable to all other manufacturers?
Other manufacturers use multiple radiuses, it's not just a Volkl thing. Mid carve, the underfoot measurement is the one you'll feel the most. Tip and tail impacts how the ski feels when entering and exiting carves, drifting turns, and skiing straight.
We've also found that you can pay attention to the radii and try to figure out the differences, plusses, and minuses, or you can go the other route and just ski it and not think about it. In Volkl, the 3D Radius Sidecut also pairs very well with their flatter rocker profiles, allowing skiers to really feel and enjoy the different shapes and styles.
Is there no maverick 88 ti for 25?
There certainly is! We were happy to feature the Maverick 88 Ti in our ~90 mm Comparison (even though the 86 C and 88 Ti share the same mold). ruclips.net/video/7YEO7bGt-xw/видео.html
@@SkiEssentialsgreat thanks for the reply. Part of the reason I asked is everywhere seems to only be selling last years model with most of the sizes sold out
Very random question: Can somebody explain to me why you would want to ski with poles that are that long? To me they just seem to get in the way more than anything else. Is it just a habit thing that everybody grew up with, or is there an actual benefit to this?
There are some former racers in this video--I imagine you're referring to them as they typically have longer poles. This stems from the need to push out of a start gate and double pole-plant for speed and balance. That need sort of subsides when you enter your non-competition phase, but some skiers just keep the longer poles. My poles are about 2-4 inches shorter than recommended because I have a mogul background and always used shorter poles--same with Jeff and his park style. When I use longer poles, I get the sensation that I can keep my hands higher with greater ease, but I don't like how non-quick they are in tighter turns, which I prefer to do.
@@SkiEssentials Okay, great! Thanks a lot for the reply
What ware the least expensive skis?
The K2 Mindbender 85 was $449 I think--least expensive by about $50.
What I really don't like is that very few of them has 190sm+ lenghts.
True, not a lot of long offerings in this category. Anomaly and Kore I think come the longest.
29:01 skier in the background 😅😅
Good eye!
how are they showing THIS year's ski before any snow drops on the slopes? is this AI snow? It has really come a long way!
Just ahead of our time, I guess. Like cars or other products that work a year ahead, skis are much the same way. We start skiing and filming next year's skis basically in December and January. This way, we can put the content out when we get our stock in. So yes, you're buying 2025 skis in 2024, and come this Dec/Jan, we'll be skiing on 2026 product!
@@SkiEssentials so it's not AI? DANG
Mid 80s are ok....no wider though