The Stones’ clothes, our love affair with Abba & rock’s most appalling spectacle
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- Опубликовано: 5 июл 2024
- We lobbed the cracked wooden ball of enquiry at the rock and roll coconut shy this week and a few choice items dropped off their perch, among them …
We lobbed the cracked wooden ball of enquiry at the rock and roll coconut shy this week and a few choice items dropped off their perch, among them …
… was Kate Bush ‘the Queen of Prog’?
… ELP, Black Sabbath and Deep Purple playing to 350,000 people on a Speedway track.
… the three things that sparked the Abba revival.
… the Further Adventures of Desmond and Molly Jones, Mean Mr Mustard, Polythene Pam, Father McKenzie, Rocky Raccoon, Maxwell Edison, Rose and Valerie, Sweet Loretta Martin, Vera, Chuck and Dave … Beatles characters awaiting development deals.
… was Britpop the moment the engine went into reverse?
… the two years went rock went ‘fancy dress’.
… why the Stones in 1964 were five walking fashion statements.
… Bookends by Simon & Garfunkel and its Yes connection.
… how the Beatles were in uniform on every album cover.
… David Vine at the 1974 Eurovision: “if all the judges were men, this lot would get a lot of votes and you’ll see why in a moment!”
… plus a birthday guest party - Al Hearton’s life in a Kate Bush tribute band and Stephen Lambe on the complicated birth of 90125 by Yes.
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No way were the covers songs on the Stones first album already known by everyone as suggested. The whole point about the early 60's R&B groups was the obscure material that they brought to people's attention .Even teenagers in the USA did not know these artists from their own country.
I agree. When UK audiences first heard " The Little Red Rooster", very few of them would have heard the original from Howlin Wolf. Chess Records would have only be available in specialist import record shops in a few major cities.
@spongerubbertower Exactly who did not know their own music? When Ringo named a few black artists to journalists and they did not know who he was talking about, Ringo apparently said to them "don't you know your own music?"
@spongerubbertowerYou're right, and black teens never bought hard-core blues records in large numbers, either.
Why are only white Americans condemned for it?
Traditional Irish/ Scottish music is the basis for American country, just like blues is with rock and roll, right?
Well, nobody criticizes country music fans for not being hip to The Chieftains, and having a boatload of their albums.
My mother loved black doo-wop in the fifties, as did every other white kid here in NYC. Was she hip and cool enough for them?
Or was she ignorant and stupid because she didn't own any Howlin' Wolf albums?
1974 Eurovision half-time act was The Wombles. Deep Purple, it was in their contract that they wouldn't go on until sundown.
I once worked very briefly with a guy who was an assistant engineer on the Erasure 'Abba covers' EP - he said they sent off a DAT copy of said EP to Abba HQ, awaiting their verdict on tenterhooks, only to receive a terse fax saying "Please forward your royalty statements to the following address...."
When the group Blancmange covered 'The Day Before You Came' in 1984, they apparently received permission to use clips of ABBA's original promotional video in their own promo.
Gosh remember The night Chicago died , lol, those Paper Lace somgs were rveting in their storyline lol
where The Beatles constantly having their Photo taken? there is so many!
Most British pop music during the time of ABBA sounded like something from the Pound Shop compared to the Fortnam and Mason production standards of ABBA records. That might go some way as to why their tracks still sound fresh today.
I think that "the engine went into reverse" before Britpop - maybe the late 80s or early 90s. Certainly certain 'brands' re-established themselves in the 90s - McCartney, the Stones, even David Bowie had fallen out of favour with much of Rock journalism.
Maybe ABBA were considered naff if you mainly listened to turgid rock music in 1974. However if you loved, and still love, pop music I'd suggest they were never naff. Also, that top 10 mentioned is a great top 10. A perfect snapshot of the singles chart in '74. As is the new Now Yearbook '74. A fantastic compilation.
To take your rather querulous questions masquerading as assertions in order: no (and I was listening to extraordinary rock music rather than the turgid kind you mention), yes they were (but gloriously so), it probably is (but horribly so), no idea about the yearbook.
aww x
I remember watching the 1974 Eurovision - and Long Live Love was just unlucky to be gazumped by what turned out to be a proper music act. But Long Live Love was such a classic Eurovision song - the template coming from Puppet On A String. Sugary, faux-exuberant up-beat pop which makes complete sense at Eurovision, but outside is just supermarket discount-bin tripe.
Australia loved Abba ,i think we were ahead of the rest of the world, i couldnt handle them though, lol, i do appreciate them a bit more now, probably wouldnt play their records, but i guess i get nostalgic
I can remember when Bjorn again were just a local cover band with an above average name, playing in Melbourne pubs, I wonder if they did well in Sweden, that would be nicely symmetrical
The BBC's last-minute decision not to introduce the new voting system also helped Abba win. Even so, if Abba had sung in Swedish (as they did in the rehearsal) and Gigliola Cinquetti had sung in English, the positions would have been reversed. Her song was a cracker, and is still one of the few non-winners to make the UK top 10.
Terry Jacks - Seasons In The Sun: fifty years later I'm still recovering from the period of time in 1974 when it was a regular on the radio. Mawkish slop of the most excruciating kind.
Nah it's a classic, mate
Wasn't it just. I absolutely HATED it.
Get over it, there were many others.@@apollomemories7399
I remember the irreverent schoolboy version of the time:
"We had joy, we had fun, flicking bogies at the sun;
But the sun was too hot, so we covered it in snot"
Seasons in the Sun was written by the very European Jacques Brel
And it was ghastly.
@@apollomemories7399 Sorry, but I love it.
You say the UK Top Ten records when ABBA won the Euro Song contest were shite, I disagree, I can still remember all the ones you mention like they were played yesterday, I couldn't tell you about the top ten records from this week, or any other week in the last ten years, mostly because they're shite and unmemorable. That's a fact!
If only Kate Bush hadn't smothered her voice in reverb and had a proper producer for her albums, rather than doing it herself, then I might have been still able to listen to them. As it stands today, I find them a far too shrill sounding mess.
50 years ago
Waterloo (ᗅᗺᗷᗅ) won ESC
April 6 1974 also same day
Hooked on a Feeling
First #1 on Billboard from Sweden
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Blue suede are Swedish? Lol, Blue Swede
I loved Hooked on a feeling , explosive hits 74