Thank you, Allan. Your studious research is not to be outdone. I cherish each of your videos for the history,knowledge, and lore that you have to offer. You are most definitely above your fellows!
@@williamevans9426 You've reminded me of a scene ('The Singing Detective'?) where bandaged men in hospital with seeping post-op wounds are eating jam sandwiches!
I just love that van Mierevelt painting (10:11) It feels like you have just walked in on something you were not supposed to see, and I have the urge to say "Sorry I'll come back later". Seems very fitting (on multiple levels) given the subject.
Your narration of the details of each video is top notch. I lose all sense of time when I watch them. When I discovered that the English monarchs also had their entrails removed after death I was reminded of the ancient Egyptian pharaohs having their innards put into canopic jars which were then usually put into a wooden chest. Who knew that there was a connection between the ancient rulers and more recent ones?
Thank you very much; that is a lovely compliment. It is a very similar process I suppose to some degree, all wrapped up in layers of cerecloth, the bodies too within the lead shells would have looked very similar to Mummies.
This is so interesting. I understand the reasons they did what they did with a person’s insides. Don’t like hearing too much about it! Lol. Thank you for another great video! And so well researched.
Deeply fascinating. Visceral! I enjoy your detectorist take on the search for royal viscera. Others across the ages sought to have their hearts buried apart from their bodies. Poor Elizabeth I! A powerful queen in life she had no control over her own burial. Thanks as always Allan.
Fascinating and, as some have mentioned here, it reminded me of what I’ve heard of ancient Egypt- although I think the urns with their viscera were buried in the tomb with the deceased. Thank you for addressing this and bringing in contemporary source material.
I saw the monument containing Queen Eleanor's viscera in Lincoln Cathedral only last week. Things fell into place after that, and your video has added to my understanding nicely.
Another fascinating video by Alan Barton. As usual, it is chock-full of superlative illustrations. I watched the video a second time so I could pause on the illustrations and have a closer look. As someone with an abiding interest in costume history going back more decades than a lady might want to disclose, this was something of a feast. So many royal women in all their finery! To my taste, the fashions worn by Mary Tudor were much more elegant. Others might disagree. I did notice that Elizabeth I's marble effigy at 2:30 or so was missing what were obviously jewels as indicated by holes apprearing on her chest and around her shoulders. What might be the same effigy shown about six minutes later wears jewellery; I wonder if this is a replacement for something more valuable. The most interesting items of male fashion were the multiple varieties of ruff worn by those attending the opening of a corpse in the autopsy painting, from the traditional vertical fluting to meandering horozontal folds to a foamy riot of dense folds and everything in between. I wonder what happened to these long narrow bands of linen when ruffs went out of fashion; textiles were very expensive, and they would not have been discarded. I also enjoyed the depiction of the Westminster School classroom with its profusion of writing on the walls, sermingly all proper names; graffiti by the students, maybe? I so wish I could still travel and see some of the still extant sites by myself.
That portrait of an aged smiling Elizabeth I, leaning on her hand while death hovers behind her... is that a contemporary portrait? Of so it is strange Elizabeth would have such a picture done. Almost as if she couldn't wait to die.
As lucid and sensible as ever, Allan. thank you so much. If you are going to debunk all the misinformation on youtube, you have a job on your hands.... Tell you what, though, I shouldn't have watched this straight after tea!
I think it is a tall order - I have a tendency to get frustrated with the poor analysis on offer sometimes. Just as well you watched it after your tea and not during, it is a bit grim!
How morbidly fascinating! And to think Alan lives right over historical remains! Then how he has gained so much knowledge for his age is mind boggling!
Thank you for this. I watched the video done by 'Her Remarkable History' and noticed she doesn't ever seem to properly source how she comes to her conclusions (very clickbaity). Thoroughly enjoy your videos and the amount of detail you go in to. Keep up the good work 🙂
I’ve seen a few videos and blogs that have failed to follow up on the sources, so I was really quite interested in filling out the story. I think most writers had found the reference to Taswell in secondary material, some had drawn on a life of another, quoting Taswell. It’s much more instructive I think to look at the primary sources, you then understand the context better - and it’s fun!
@@allanbarton completely agree. I love digging in to the detail. If you’re ever in Worcester and want showing around the cathedral and other historic sites in the city, give me a shout.
Understandable practice. If you could afford it. But still. Isn't it better to return to Earth? No, not with a social standing to consider. Because you CAN, rather. And I find your conclusion more than plausible. Still fascinating. Thanks.
Hello Allan, many thanks for yet another fascinating post. Please could you tell me when they stopped extracting and burying the entrails separately? Was Queen Anne the last monarch for whom this was done?
George II was the last sovereign to have his entrails removed, but the last member of the royal family appears to have been Henry, Duke of Cumberland in 1790. He was the last to be buried in George II’s vault. George III stopped the practice and none of those buried in the royal vault in Windsor received this treatment.
The dig suggestion is a good idea. I am getting your magazine for the first time this month. I live in the USA. I have the knowledge that it might take one to two weeks until I receive it. Please, can you remind me when those magazines get posted?
Thanks for the subscription Liane. They are posted out on the 6th or 7th of every month. Occasionally on the 8th, depending on when the weekend falls, as the post office isn’t open on Saturdays and Sundays for us to drop off the sacks. They can take a couple of weeks to arrive in the USA, on very rare occasions longer.
It is fascinating that, indeed a heart or entrail urn was found there in the 19th century. There is also a persistent rumour that her whole body was buried in Salle in Norfolk, close to her great grandparents, but that is more of a myth than reality - her bones were found in the 19th century in the Tower of London.
Believe it or not it was coincidental! We had no idea when we moved in, but it wasn’t long before we worked it out. I reckon we are on top of the south nave aisle of the Gilbertine priory church. The first of the Eleanor crosses was right at the end of our road.
I just heard that Mary deeply cared for her sister Elizabeth, and she kept her safe despite being called Bloody Mary, after hearing more about her the more I realized that they were all victims of Mad King Henry the 8th. No one really left unscathed 😢😢
Thank you, Allan. Your studious research is not to be outdone. I cherish each of your videos for the history,knowledge, and lore that you have to offer. You are most definitely above your fellows!
That is very kind.
Me: 'What shall i watch while having my tea? - Ah, a new Allan Barton video - perfect!'
Liver and onions for tea?
@@allanbarton Or bread and strawberry jam, perhaps?!
@@williamevans9426 😂
@@williamevans9426 You've reminded me of a scene ('The Singing Detective'?) where bandaged men in hospital with seeping post-op wounds are eating jam sandwiches!
@@davidhowe6905 I hope you're not squeamish, Mr Howe!
Fascinating story, with echoes of Ancient Egypt.
I just love that van Mierevelt painting (10:11) It feels like you have just walked in on something you were not supposed to see, and I have the urge to say "Sorry I'll come back later". Seems very fitting (on multiple levels) given the subject.
Your narration of the details of each video is top notch. I lose all sense of time when I watch them. When I discovered that the English monarchs also had their entrails removed after death I was reminded of the ancient Egyptian pharaohs having their innards put into canopic jars which were then usually put into a wooden chest. Who knew that there was a connection between the ancient rulers and more recent ones?
Thank you very much; that is a lovely compliment. It is a very similar process I suppose to some degree, all wrapped up in layers of cerecloth, the bodies too within the lead shells would have looked very similar to Mummies.
Certainly makes the lyrics 'Somethings gotten hold of my heart' hit different thank you Dr Allan as always xx
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This is so interesting. I understand the reasons they did what they did with a person’s insides. Don’t like hearing too much about it! Lol. Thank you for another great video! And so well researched.
Thanks very much, glad you enjoyed it!
Excellent channel 👍🏻👍🏻
Thanks very much, glad you’re enjoying my videos! ☺️
Hooray! Another Antiquary video!
Thank you for a very interesting as well as well-researched and well-argued presentation.
I have seen these recent youtube videos as well. I am glad you took up the challenge to give a more careful and deliberate review.
Thanks!
Thank you very much.
Deeply fascinating. Visceral! I enjoy your detectorist take on the search for royal viscera. Others across the ages sought to have their hearts buried apart from their bodies. Poor Elizabeth I! A powerful queen in life she had no control over her own burial. Thanks as always Allan.
Fascinating and, as some have mentioned here, it reminded me of what I’ve heard of ancient Egypt- although I think the urns with their viscera were buried in the tomb with the deceased. Thank you for addressing this and bringing in contemporary source material.
I saw the monument containing Queen Eleanor's viscera in Lincoln Cathedral only last week. Things fell into place after that, and your video has added to my understanding nicely.
That's what I love about this channel. It always gets to the heart of the matter. (Sorry but I couldn't resist that!) 🙂
Didn't know much about this practice, thanks very much. I always learn something new with your content. ❤👍
Glad you enjoyed it!
Another fascinating video by Alan Barton. As usual, it is chock-full of superlative illustrations. I watched the video a second time so I could pause on the illustrations and have a closer look.
As someone with an abiding interest in costume history going back more decades than a lady might want to disclose, this was something of a feast. So many royal women in all their finery! To my taste, the fashions worn by Mary Tudor were much more elegant. Others might disagree. I did notice that Elizabeth I's marble effigy at 2:30 or so was missing what were obviously jewels as indicated by holes apprearing on her chest and around her shoulders. What might be the same effigy shown about six minutes later wears jewellery; I wonder if this is a replacement for something more valuable.
The most interesting items of male fashion were the multiple varieties of ruff worn by those attending the opening of a corpse in the autopsy painting, from the traditional vertical fluting to meandering horozontal folds to a foamy riot of dense folds and everything in between. I wonder what happened to these long narrow bands of linen when ruffs went out of fashion; textiles were very expensive, and they would not have been discarded.
I also enjoyed the depiction of the Westminster School classroom with its profusion of writing on the walls, sermingly all proper names; graffiti by the students, maybe?
I so wish I could still travel and see some of the still extant sites by myself.
You treat the topic with sensitivity. Its quite touching that body parts were meant to confer different benefits.
That portrait of an aged smiling Elizabeth I, leaning on her hand while death hovers behind her... is that a contemporary portrait? Of so it is strange Elizabeth would have such a picture done. Almost as if she couldn't wait to die.
Thank you so much for this very informative video.
I absolutely love these video's!
Thanks as always for such interesting videos.
As lucid and sensible as ever, Allan. thank you so much. If you are going to debunk all the misinformation on youtube, you have a job on your hands....
Tell you what, though, I shouldn't have watched this straight after tea!
I think it is a tall order - I have a tendency to get frustrated with the poor analysis on offer sometimes. Just as well you watched it after your tea and not during, it is a bit grim!
Thank you again Dr. 😊❤
They were still doing this in 1928 Thomas Hardy's heart was buried separately
That is very true, I'd forgotten about that!
How morbidly fascinating!
And to think Alan lives right over historical remains!
Then how he has gained so much knowledge for his age is mind boggling!
Amazing vídeo, Allan
Thank you for this. I watched the video done by 'Her Remarkable History' and noticed she doesn't ever seem to properly source how she comes to her conclusions (very clickbaity). Thoroughly enjoy your videos and the amount of detail you go in to. Keep up the good work 🙂
I’ve seen a few videos and blogs that have failed to follow up on the sources, so I was really quite interested in filling out the story. I think most writers had found the reference to Taswell in secondary material, some had drawn on a life of another, quoting Taswell. It’s much more instructive I think to look at the primary sources, you then understand the context better - and it’s fun!
@@allanbarton completely agree. I love digging in to the detail. If you’re ever in Worcester and want showing around the cathedral and other historic sites in the city, give me a shout.
Thank you! I may well take you up on that offer, it’s years since I visited Worcester.
That channels videos are awful for clickbait… I also think they read straight off of Wikipedia.
@@Norfolkgal22 agreed! I start listening then click straight off. Sensationalist crap.
A true historian, thank you for your research. A most interesting video as always Allan.
I love your videos about the Juicy Bits! ❤
Glad you enjoyed it 😊
Fascinating. As an American, evangelical protestant the mindset is utterly alien to my mind, but you explained it clearly.
I'm gonna go find a ouija board so I can ask Mr. Taswell WHY WOULD YOU PUT YOUR HAND IN IT?!
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I was asking myself the very same question, although I would stop short of using the black arts to find out the answer 😂
I recommend you refrain from doing such.
Understandable practice. If you could afford it. But still. Isn't it better to return to Earth? No, not with a social standing to consider. Because you CAN, rather. And I find your conclusion more than plausible. Still fascinating. Thanks.
Glad you appreciated the video!
I am surprised that the Abbey does not seem to have kept accurate records of the internments.
It is surprising. That’s why Dean Stanley opened the vaults in the 1860s, only a rudimentary record was kept. James I was lost entirely!
Who gives the final approval for the opening of a royal crypt/grave? Both in a historical context and modern.
The current sovereign. There has been great hesitation to do so since the 1860s.
Hello Allan, many thanks for yet another fascinating post. Please could you tell me when they stopped extracting and burying the entrails separately? Was Queen Anne the last monarch for whom this was done?
George II was the last sovereign to have his entrails removed, but the last member of the royal family appears to have been Henry, Duke of Cumberland in 1790. He was the last to be buried in George II’s vault. George III stopped the practice and none of those buried in the royal vault in Windsor received this treatment.
@@allanbarton Many thanks!
The dig suggestion is a good idea. I am getting your magazine for the first time this month. I live in the USA. I have the knowledge that it might take one to two weeks until I receive it. Please, can you remind me when those magazines get posted?
Thanks for the subscription Liane. They are posted out on the 6th or 7th of every month. Occasionally on the 8th, depending on when the weekend falls, as the post office isn’t open on Saturdays and Sundays for us to drop off the sacks. They can take a couple of weeks to arrive in the USA, on very rare occasions longer.
crikey.
I hope Master Taswell washed his hands thoroughly,
after dipping.
You’d hope so - quite a disgusting thing to do.
fascinating
Anne Boleyns heart was said to be buried in Erwarton Church which is my local church.
It is fascinating that, indeed a heart or entrail urn was found there in the 19th century. There is also a persistent rumour that her whole body was buried in Salle in Norfolk, close to her great grandparents, but that is more of a myth than reality - her bones were found in the 19th century in the Tower of London.
"Now this isn't a serious suggestion in any way..."
Me, with shovel already in hand: Dang it!
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Anne Boleyns heart is said to be at Erwarton Church NR her Uncles house
I was just wondering, what happened to corpse, in the death of Richard III. ?
Time to call Time Team to do a dig
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Maybe they lost them to a starship trooper? If you know you know. Fascinating video.
Looks like some folks might find some surprises in their gardens :)
I think Time Team dug around the Trumpeter's House but not around the former chapel
WOW! Forgive me I hope this doesn't sound unkind.....but I'm ready for the digging to begin
Someone mentioned that Time Team did a dig in the vicinity - they must have missed the urn!
A dig? Ooooo... Wherefore art thou, Time Team?
I’ve still never understood how both of them became Queen. If Mary was legitimate then Elizabeth wasn’t, and vice-versa.
They were in the line of succession per Henry VIII's will after their half-brother Edward VI.
Why am I not surprised that you live in a house standing above the site of a medieval priory containing burials? I bet that wasn't coincidental. :)
Believe it or not it was coincidental! We had no idea when we moved in, but it wasn’t long before we worked it out. I reckon we are on top of the south nave aisle of the Gilbertine priory church. The first of the Eleanor crosses was right at the end of our road.
@@allanbarton oh wow you must have a sixth sense for priories! what an exciting place to live! :)
Well, I'm glad they stopped doing that. 😅
Horrid isn’t it?
I just heard that Mary deeply cared for her sister Elizabeth, and she kept her safe despite being called Bloody Mary, after hearing more about her the more I realized that they were all victims of Mad King Henry the 8th. No one really left unscathed 😢😢
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