Trying to keep my stock MY00 S2000 straight on Buttonwillow 13 CCW. Stiff sway bar and high-speed lift on the rear lead to an adventurous ride. No spinouts on track yet!
Really great driving !! Seems like the tires aren't helping you out much though ! Rare when someone can push a car beyond it's limits consistently over and over !
I know this video is old, but I had a question about your track experience. Have you ever driven a s2000 with a wing? And if yes, how did the oversteer characteristics change (if at all)?
StiffWood I haven't but I know people who have wings and they certainly do help. Stock s2000's generate a fair amount of rear lift at high speed so wings helps keep them planted. However, I recommend learning how to drive a non-aero car fast first. Even pulling .9 g at 80 mph takes seat time and a lot of guys with aero don't use it. It's fun setting faster last times than dudes with $3k+ voltex kits
Question: I noticed your shifter rotating when under some g-forces. Ie, it sways left when you turn right. Is this a sign the motor mounts are going or is that amount of movement normal?
I'm not OP, but my opinion is that is likely motor mount. I have an ap1 that was seeing a lot of shifter movement. I upgraded motor/transmission mounts and it cut the movement almost completely out.
I cannot help but think there is something wrong with your car. I have tracked my S2000 for years and never had such horrible handling that yours seems to have.
Only if you drive them in a way which provokes it. In any car, if you change one control, for example lifting the throttle, you need to change another, in this case the steering, to keep the car happy. It's like bending over to tie your shoelaces - you need to stick your bum out at the same time, otherwise you fall on your face. This problem is often exacerbated by having too much steering angle in the first place. In addition to that, if you're on the limit then as you go over bumps in the car it will move around a bit, and you just have to react to the car's changing balance with steering and throttle (and brakes, if you're trailbraking or LFB).
Definitely a big part of AP1 ownership. Proper tires seem to be the #1 fix, but OEM sway bars can be swapped from year to year to adjust. I Subscribed! Can you sub back?
From all the S2000 videos that I saw - the key to handle oversteer is to not lift the throttle. Once you lift the throttle, it's over :)
Hence “lift off oversteer”
so once you enter a corner too fast you're fucked essentially
@@liblib89 slap some ps4s on and you’ll be good, im in the middle of hunting for a gt wing for mine to stick the arse of the car down even further
You can lift but you simultaneously have to decrease your steering angle to keep the ass end in check
And sadly the first reaction of the people is fear...and the common response is brake
Probably one of the best videos on how to handle AP1 over steer. Well done 👍🏾
This video is great to visualize what you need to do while driving. Thanks
To catch oversteer that's already developed, yes, but it's not the best video on how to avoid it.
holy shit! that is some seriously good high speed car control. skill and balls. good stuff.
Catching those high speed slides is the best feeling in the world!
Rear tires worn?
Congrats to the driver nice skills 👏❤
Seat time & passion!
nice.. turn in to the spin and throttle..... AP1 FTW
Looks like a lot of fun
Damn, seriously impressive!
U see how he correct it he doesn’t let off gas’s anymore nice he realize it he gently throttles the grass to fix the oversteer
Nice video! Maybe I should get one of these. I saw you on Cameron Lilly’s Honda S2000 Restoration Channel’s comments. I subscribed!
Thanks man!
He is one with the S2000.
That's why Porsche always makes super cars with the weight distribution ratio of 40 to 60 to avoid the lift off over steer.
Really great driving !! Seems like the tires aren't helping you out much though !
Rare when someone can push a car beyond it's limits consistently over and over !
Which tires were you running? Looks like you have rather forgiving tires who slide first instead of brake loose.
On Conti DW ExtremeContact in this video. Not great for track usage--quite mushy and get greasy with heat--but fairly forgiving
man....good job in handling that.. looked like it was going give out anytime haha...
+Allen Kwong Thanks dude! Stock suspension and tire sizes aren't the quickest way around a track but they surely help the driving skills
Lol.. I keep watching it over and over again. Just amazing. I think I would have spun out like multiple times hah
You got big you know what....LOL!!! Stay safe...
Great driving had me on the edge. I can't imagine pushing my AP1 that hard.
Every s2k should learn how to handle their car like this n/a before boosting it lol
I know this video is old, but I had a question about your track experience. Have you ever driven a s2000 with a wing? And if yes, how did the oversteer characteristics change (if at all)?
StiffWood I haven't but I know people who have wings and they certainly do help. Stock s2000's generate a fair amount of rear lift at high speed so wings helps keep them planted. However, I recommend learning how to drive a non-aero car fast first. Even pulling .9 g at 80 mph takes seat time and a lot of guys with aero don't use it. It's fun setting faster last times than dudes with $3k+ voltex kits
John Culliton thanks for the answer. Yes you seem to have a firm grip on the limits of the performance of that car. Great video.
Were you tapping the brakes at all with your left foot
Damn that’s a lot of lift off time to adjust the dampers
Impressive skills, it looks like for you this is like drifting a car in a Ridge Racer game lol
woooOOO! !! ! nice driving. Any mods since?
Rippin it! Sweet!
did you lose it at 2:00? It would have been very difficult to correct it and still take that second corner well
Question: I noticed your shifter rotating when under some g-forces. Ie, it sways left when you turn right. Is this a sign the motor mounts are going or is that amount of movement normal?
I'm not OP, but my opinion is that is likely motor mount. I have an ap1 that was seeing a lot of shifter movement. I upgraded motor/transmission mounts and it cut the movement almost completely out.
nice work. too sketch for me!
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I cannot help but think there is something wrong with your car. I have tracked my S2000 for years and never had such horrible handling that yours seems to have.
might need to try some low gripy tyre and drive on the edge as he does mate
I felt it is very normal as in the video shows if drivers handling the high speed and keep the grip at the edge. :)
S2000 and Lotus got the worst oversteering problem due to weight issues
Yeah they are notorious for lift off oversteer, the opposite of what I usually like.
Only if you drive them in a way which provokes it. In any car, if you change one control, for example lifting the throttle, you need to change another, in this case the steering, to keep the car happy. It's like bending over to tie your shoelaces - you need to stick your bum out at the same time, otherwise you fall on your face. This problem is often exacerbated by having too much steering angle in the first place. In addition to that, if you're on the limit then as you go over bumps in the car it will move around a bit, and you just have to react to the car's changing balance with steering and throttle (and brakes, if you're trailbraking or LFB).
Seems like somethingis off. tires, alighment something doest seen right
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Definitely a big part of AP1 ownership. Proper tires seem to be the #1 fix, but OEM sway bars can be swapped from year to year to adjust.
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