Experimental: Bach x AI
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- When music meets AI, magical things can happen - and by that we don't just mean the Bösendorfer grand piano that plays by itself as if enchanted.
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With MuseNet, OpenAI has created a deep neural network that can create musical compositions with various instruments. But it does not compose like a human would: it tries to find out what “building block” should best be used next in a composition after being trained with hundreds of thousands of MIDI files. From this pool of data, the artificial intelligence decides for itself what fits best. Combined with the self-playing capabilities of the Bösendorfer 290 Imperial CEUS computer grand these compositions - like this newly composed piece in the style of Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach - create an eerie and magical experiment in humanity's relationship to art and performance.
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not exactly bach but it's amazing that a computer can do such things
It has everything except that which makes music, music.
i burst out laughing at 1:04... for a moment I thought AI was going into the WB theme "the merry-go-round broke down" ha
Bach's music lifts you up to God, something AI will never be able to do.
God made* math.
Whether it is true to Bach or not, I love the sound.
We do too!
It isn't, but it's still really cool!
This is simply fantastic. Looking forward to the next ones. Well done!
This composition doesn't sound like Bach but rather a mix of baroque and Beethoven. The problem with AI is that the computer always blends different styles to create something average, even if it doesn't make sense regarding the History of Art.
It DOES sounds like Bach. CPE Bach that is. It is said in the video.
But did you like it? Does IT like it? These are more important questions than whether a piece is exactly what a dead composer would have written.
@@somethingtojenga I do like it a lot. Especially the duturututu tuuuuu, -tuu turutu tururu part.
Sounds like Beethoven, much rather than Bach. What was the training data?
Totally!
I was going to say that too, Beethoven, after the 1st 12 seconds or so. Or that Malcom Arnold "before the mast" that Keith Emerson used to play (play on Bach Brandenburg )
Well it’s sometime Bach,sometimes Mozart and a bit of Bach.for exemple the ending was bach like the start but not really the rest.I think the ai did à really good job not like the video bach gpt where the ai did a mediocre work compared to bach
Jesus.
Christ.
Bach would have some words about this AI's schooling.
This is imitating CPE Bach, not JS Bach.
No, this is not a human composition. I hear no story, only fragments. No development. No intelligence, humor, etc. Thousend miles far from my beloved Bach.
I can hear it all that you're not hearing,but I am aware that the performance is generated quantised, which takes the human feel,but can be easily edited in. I am a composer myself.
If it was presented to you as a CPE Bach composition you wouldn't guess.
It certainly helps when it is played by a human. But I think that you hear the un-human quality even better then. AI-lovers underestimate human intelligence. Composing is not taking the average of what alreay exists, as AI does. It is inventing, creating emotions, spheres, far beyond algorithms...
@@Szpzer I think you're the one overstimating human intelligence. Look at the world we live in.
Haha! 😂 Good point. Do you notice the strange transitions between the different strophes? JS certainly would invent better ones.
The counterpoint is terrible. Motifs, countermotifs, and such things
Not even close.
The syncopations are a little too spontaneous, more jazz/pop/prog-rock.
:) Bach is JAZZY
Well, I think from 0:51 it's getting better, many repetitions, but at least there is something like a musical idea. Quite charming tune!
I think the power of ai in art and music is to make the general feel or effect of what you want
It doesn't compare to bach's genuis writing and it probably never will, but if you have a movie for example and you music for the backround it can create a good enough result
We shouldn't be scared of it or hate on the ai it's a tool to make our lives better :)
alright, this was epic
Sounds too happy to be Bach haha
Play it at 0.75 speed and its very very near to "real" classical music. This is whats Ai al about, it is like a mirrow, and we are looking inside, fascinated of what we see (or hear).
Read the description, it is supposed to imitate CPE Bach.
Wow 💙
It’s still missing something but I might be bias. I hope this tech can improve in the future to create truly captivating compositions.
Artificial intelligence will never be able to fill this gap. Consider that the difference can also be heard when someone else finished Mozart's Requiem. Only humans can fill music with soul. Artificial intelligence will never be able to do this, and it should not be forced to do so.
@@onlinecomposerwhy will it never be able? Of course it will and it will compose even better than humans. AI has no limits, as our limited brain has. AI is just starting. In a few years you wont be able to say if a performance on the piano is human or robotic, and the same with composing. Its the Touring test.
@@alindmay Because AI feeds on human creations and does not perfectly imitate them either. Maybe he will imitate it perfectly later, but it means nothing if we can't tell whether something is made by a living person or a machine. What is it good for? The author is connected to a piece of music, the two are inseparable. The author of a piece of music cannot be a machine, it is considered a completely worthless work. A piece of music has value only if it is produced by a person.
And whose will be the glory after such a finished work? Does the person who programmed the AI belong to a programmer, or will the AI have a stage name and people applaud as a phantom or commemorate the composer it imitated? To me, this is completely unclear. I think so, I'm not alone. Of course, I appreciate the effort, but for me, the work presented here would only have value if it had been created by one person.
From a certain point of view, for example, my music doesn't even come close to the work presented here, but what I've created is completely me and reflects my personality.
@@onlinecomposer oh, todays AI is like a baby, just being fed . Soon it will grow and be better than us. We will see this within 10 years. See the Tesla car driving software. Soon the automatic driving will be safer and better than human driving.
Regarding the value of art... I listen to the music in radio and have no idea about the artist and fully enjoy it. If something is good art, its just good. Who cares about the author? Do you ask for the cooks name when you enjoy food in a restaurant?
@@alindmay Since AI was created by humans, humans will limit it. People will not allow him to be better than him and will not fulfill the ideas we have about him now. This is similar to the idea of a paperless office 30 years ago. It didn't happen though. Still need that whining paper. In the case of AI, a baby will still be a baby 100 years from now. We'll see, yes.
I don't have a driver's license, but I want to learn to drive and I will definitely not buy a car that automatically drives for me. The joy of driving is what I need. Listening to quality music begins when I first know the author, or if I don't, I can look up who it is. This is even the case on the radio. A lot of people are interested in the author. Listening to music is not like eating food. Yes, if I eat in a high-quality restaurant, where I eat quality food, I can certainly ask the name of the chef and they will tell me who it was. Of course, this is irrelevant in worthless fast food restaurants.
But coming back to music, the name of the author and the name of the performer are also very important in concerts, in live music. I can't imagine a live musician performing a piece scored by AI. Or an AI performing in front of a live audience. Or they don't invite a live pianist to a high-class wedding, but instead turn on a computer. Of course, everyone does this according to their needs, but in my opinion, these needs will not change within a few hundred years.
Of course, as an interesting thing, artificial intelligence will remain interesting in music, just like it is in creating images or writing poetry. In art, not only the pleasure of consuming the product is important, but also the artist's creative joy.
The parts in themselfes are promising, but the piece lack a clear red line to follow
Pretty good.
In ny opinion this music does not sound like the music Bach himself wrote. Basically Bach wrote music with more dynamic range, not so «straight forward» and also his music even his small pieces is never only happy…
His music both in Major and Minor have lots of different emotions hidden inside.
Moreover his music is just beautiful - ofcourse that is subjective but I do not think this A.I music is beautiful - its like Bach in a matematical sence but it does not (for me at least) give me that musical bliss and total relaxation and the feeling of music that have the power not only to heal the soul but also to lift the very spirit of mankind like a sun shining upon a flower in the morning.
Totally agreed with that. Bach had an incredibly creative genius to his music that quickens your soul at so many turns.
It says it is inspired in CPE Bach, Not JS Bach.
Its great bachs spirit will be immortal through ai. He gave us hours of indepth material. O the joy ai will produce
now imagine if it were played musically
Is this score available?
that doesn't sound remotely like Bach. It is more Mozart
I thought it sounded good. I would even put it on in the car or in the house
It would be nice if a real piano player would play it.
Bach? It's much closer to Beethoven emulation.
... kind of lacks concept, I'd say.
Sounds more like Mozart than Bach
Or a member of the Bach brood! Like WF Bach or JC Bach
@@peewhocantbeaimed6954 Or C.P.E. Bach
@@Mahlercougar YOu gotcha, it is Carl Philipp Emanuel Bach.
😃agree!
Agreed.
very close to his style but lacks emotional depth.
It's rather Mozart than Bach. Check out Sonata semplice
Started well...
software name?
More classical than baroque
Very mechanistic :-(
In Italy we say: Mah.
It as not ai
0:32 is not musical.
Yes, that is the worst part.
Piano embrujado
automatic piano?...19th century tech....
Not even close.
Guys please scores!!!!!!!!
I'll be bach
Ок!
Music is for humans.
Indeed. Here we are listening to it.
:O
Not very good
goes to show that AI is dumb as a rock and Bach wins.
Just tapping the safe spots doesn't make great music.
Sounds like garbage, but for the money hoarding class it's close enough for them to never hire a human again
Better than Bach
Maybe you should take some years to listen to Bach (like I did) before writing this silly respons.
a precise..... metronome! dreadful.
I can do it better haha
It sux sorry.
Note salad. Not remotely like Bach.